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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: It is the Ben Ferguson Podcasts and it is a

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Speaker 2: dual show with Senator Ted Cruz and I as we

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Speaker 2: just got finished watching the vice presidential debate.

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Speaker 1: Senator you just watched it.

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Speaker 2: We got to watch it together, you got to commentate

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Speaker 2: on Hannity afterwards. And your initial takeaway from this debate.

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Speaker 2: I thought JD had a pretty good night.

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Speaker 3: He had an excellent, excellent night. It is eleven o

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Speaker 3: five pm, just after the debate. As you noted, I

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Speaker 3: just finished doing Hannity and talking about the debate. I

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Speaker 3: think this was a good night for America. The winner

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Speaker 3: of the debate tonight was Donald Trump. The loser of

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Speaker 3: the debate tonight was Kamala Harris. Yeah, both candidates I

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Speaker 3: think did an effective job. Tim Waltz was frankly better

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Speaker 3: than I expected, but he had a very difficult case

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Speaker 3: to make because his job was to defend Kamala Harris's record.

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Speaker 3: And the reason that I think it was such a

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Speaker 3: good night for Trump is I think JD did a

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Speaker 3: good job job of prosecuting Kamala Harris's actual record. She

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Speaker 3: is desperately, desperately, desperately trying to run away from her

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Speaker 3: record trying to hide in the basement. And tonight the

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Speaker 3: contrast was made between the incredible successes on the border,

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Speaker 3: on the economy, on foreign policy under Donald Trump as

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Speaker 3: compared to the incredible failures on the border, on the economy,

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Speaker 3: on foreign policy under Kamala Harris and and and that

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Speaker 3: stark divide was there. I think Tim Waltz tried mightily

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Speaker 3: to pretend the record didn't exist. But but but there

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Speaker 3: were some rough moments because he couldn't deny reality. And

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Speaker 3: and and it really goes to the to the fundamental

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Speaker 3: core conceit of the Kamala Harris campaign, which is she

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Speaker 3: is trying to live in this alternate reality where she

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Speaker 3: is the change candidate and Donald J. Trump is the

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Speaker 3: incumbent president, and that is not in fact the planet

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Speaker 3: on which we live. And and I think JD did

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Speaker 3: a good job multiple times of saying, gosh, if she

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Speaker 3: has all these policy proposals, why isn't she doing any

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Speaker 3: of them now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for the last three and a half years.

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Speaker 3: And Walts has no answer to that other than well, well,

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Speaker 3: what's happening now isn't working, So that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: There was one funny part of the debate that I laughed,

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Speaker 2: And it was when he was talking about how none

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Speaker 2: of the wall was actually built, and then it was

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Speaker 2: like he realized, oh wait, maybe I don't want to

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Speaker 2: go that far with this point because she's got an

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Speaker 2: ad out showing down on Trump's wall, and he was

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Speaker 2: like he kind of backpedaled on.

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Speaker 1: He's like, well, you guys didn't build much of that wall.

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Speaker 2: It's like, well, now, didn't she just say, didn't know

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Speaker 2: you're here to represent just say we got to have

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Speaker 2: a secure border, build a wall.

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Speaker 3: Well, and you could tell that Waltz was uncomfortable defending

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Speaker 3: Kamala's record because he kept trying to go back to

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Speaker 3: Minnesota over and over ageing, Yeah, look at what I've

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Speaker 3: done in Minnesota. Look at what I've done in Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: It's like, wait a second, you're not the candidate for president.

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris says, she's been the vice president. And I

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Speaker 3: thought in particular, the strongest moments of the debate were

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Speaker 3: on economics and the impact for working men and women,

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Speaker 3: that that just people's lives are harder, that the cost

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Speaker 3: of everything has gone up, the cost of food, the

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Speaker 3: cost of healthcare, the cost of UH gasoline. And I

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Speaker 3: thought on the cost of housing, I think jd Vance

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Speaker 3: made a good point of Look eleven and a half

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Speaker 3: million illegal immigrants, do you think that's driving up the cost

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Speaker 3: of housing? And I will say two of the losers

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Speaker 3: that they they seem to be trying to topple prior

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Speaker 3: moderators for for the biggest partisan hacks of a debate.

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Speaker 3: I thought CBS's moderators, Nora O'Donnell and Margaret Brennan did

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Speaker 3: did a terrible job. Uh, there is not a person

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Speaker 3: in the universe who watched this debate who has any

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Speaker 3: doubt either of them is like that, none whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there, And the best part was you and I

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Speaker 2: were watching it again, And it's fun to watch these

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Speaker 2: things together because I was sitting there. And one of

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Speaker 2: the things that made me laugh was when they did

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Speaker 2: I was watching Anchorman outtakes and it was like, we

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Speaker 2: And and then they would immediately go back in their

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Speaker 2: hardest in their partisan hackery, which was when they muted him.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no, no, that was wow.

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Speaker 1: That really was the moment.

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Speaker 2: I tweeted, I said, when that happened, I tweeted, I

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Speaker 2: was like in communist countries they mute microphones. They just

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Speaker 2: did it during the Vice president of debate that if

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Speaker 2: you want to know if the state sponsored media, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they just did it.

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Speaker 3: I really was waiting for them, you know, you made

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Speaker 3: the Acreman equip as We're watching the debate, and I

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Speaker 3: was really waiting for one of them to lean over

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Speaker 3: as Ron Burgundy and say, screw you, Sandiego and I'm

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Speaker 3: cleaning the language up a little bit from the actual

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Speaker 3: line of the movie. But but it was number one,

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Speaker 3: stilted their mindating number two. It was incredibly smarmy and condescending.

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Speaker 3: Their entire attitude is we know better than all of you.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, the things they interrupted, they were

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Speaker 3: supposed to not do fact checks. When they did do them,

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Speaker 3: they were wrong, and they were completely self satisfied. And

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Speaker 3: the moment when they cut off jd Vance's microphone was pitiful.

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Speaker 3: It was nakedly biased. It was hackery. It was nothing

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Speaker 3: but partisan hackery, and I think CBS really got a

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Speaker 2: I think that could hurt them for real when it

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to the beginning of the debate,

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Speaker 2: and the first question coming into the debate was one

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Speaker 2: I think we all knew it was going to be

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Speaker 2: on Israel and the attack on Israel from Iran, and

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Speaker 2: Waltz was very, very very nervous, you could tell. But

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Speaker 2: he also didn't know what to do because there's a

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Speaker 2: hard part of the Democratic Party, especially him in Minnesota, YEP,

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Speaker 2: with the extremists there that hate Israel and they're the

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Speaker 2: ones that are protesting and supporting the terrorists. And when

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Speaker 3: I ran.

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Speaker 4: Israel's ability to be able to defend itself as absolutely

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Speaker 4: fundamental getting its hostages.

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Speaker 2: Back it's hostages. But I was like, come on, man,

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Speaker 2: But it tells you where the Democratic Party is right now.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to come out and defend Israel too much,

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Speaker 1: And it was this weird, awkward moment for him.

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Speaker 3: Well, and look, he had a talking point that was

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Speaker 3: and the hostages should be returned. And so those are

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Speaker 3: he immediately said, but we have to address the humanitarian

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Speaker 3: through proxies. But this is now Iran directly attacking Israel.

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Speaker 3: And the question he was asked is would he support

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Speaker 3: October seventh. Well, that's actually wrong. This crisis began in

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Speaker 3: Just weeks before, we had peace flourishing in the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: We had the Abraham Accords signed on the south lawn

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Speaker 3: I did not realize that none of them showed up.

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Speaker 1: And that was the deal that dealt with the word

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Speaker 1: they're obsession with, which is peace.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yes, it was. It was historic peace. It was

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Speaker 3: the Arabs and the Israelis coming together and signing historic

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Speaker 3: at the signing end. Do you know what Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris instructed the State Department what was that in writing?

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Speaker 3: They said, you were not allowed to use the words

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Speaker 3: Abraham Accords. Don't even call them real what they were called.

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Speaker 3: They were instructed to call them normalization agreements, but do

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Speaker 3: not use apparently acknowledging Father Abraham as too much. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's general he did. So what Tim Waltz is doing.

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Speaker 3: jumped in and JD talked about the Haitian illegal immigrants

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Speaker 3: who are in Springfield, Ohio, and you know, they wanted

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Speaker 3: to reprise the whole cat thing. I was surprised. I also,

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Speaker 3: I would have lost a bet if you had given

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Speaker 3: me the odds on whether the word cat would be

443
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Speaker 3: said in the debate. I would have bet yes, and

444
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Speaker 3: I would have lost that bet. So so that the

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Speaker 3: moderators did not say that, nor did Tim Waltz. But

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Speaker 3: JD rightly said, look, this massive influx of illegal aliens

447
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Speaker 3: is putting an enormous burden on the residents of Springfield

448
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Speaker 3: and every other city in Ohio and every other city

449
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Speaker 3: in the country. And the moderators chimed into correct him,

450
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Speaker 3: well those are legal immigrants, and he said, blooney, yeah,

451
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Speaker 3: and this is a fiction. So look, we have a

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Speaker 3: legal immigration system. And what has happened is Joe Biden

453
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Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris have abused our immigration law. So the

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Speaker 3: three hundred thousand plus Haitians in Nicaraguans and Cubans at

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Speaker 3: Venezuelan's they've flown in, They've flown in into programs where

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Speaker 3: they say, well, these guys are all now legal just

457
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Speaker 3: because we've decided to open the doors and call everyone

458
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Speaker 3: we let in legal that is not legal in any

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Speaker 3: ordinary sense. They are illegal immigrants. And in particular JD

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Speaker 3: rightly talks about the app CBP one, which we've talked

461
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Speaker 3: about on this podcast before, an app for illegal immigrants

462
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Speaker 3: to apply online for Kamala Harris to let him in

463
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Speaker 3: our open border.

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Speaker 2: And they did not like him saying this because it

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Speaker 2: was fact checking them.

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Speaker 3: It was they were fact checking him. They were wrong,

467
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Speaker 3: he countered him, and then they cut off his mic

468
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Speaker 3: right when Tim Waltz was saying, well, well, you know

469
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Speaker 3: this has been around for years. CBB one was just

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Speaker 3: created by Joe Biden Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: Play the clip when they cut off his mic, because

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Speaker 3: it really is revealing of the enormous bias and the

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Speaker 3: factual just mendacity of the CBS moderators.

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Speaker 1: But thank you, senator. We having so much to get

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Speaker 1: to more.

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Speaker 5: I think it's important we're going to turn out of

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Speaker 5: the economy thing.

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Speaker 4: The rules were that you got in a fact check,

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Speaker 4: and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important

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Speaker 4: to say what's actually going on. So there's an application

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Speaker 4: called the CBP one app where you can go on

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Speaker 4: as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum or apply for

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Speaker 4: parole and be granted legal status at the wave of

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Speaker 4: a Kamala Harris open border wand that is not a

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Speaker 4: person coming in applying for a green cart and waiting

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Speaker 4: for ten years. Thank you, senatortation of a legal immigration

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Speaker 4: Margaret By.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Senator for describing the legal process. Have so

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Speaker 5: much to get, Senator, so much.

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Speaker 1: The book since nineteen.

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Speaker 4: Ninety, Thank you, gentlemen, want to have that app has

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Speaker 4: not been on the books.

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Speaker 2: It's something.

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Speaker 5: Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.

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Speaker 5: We have so much we want to get to Thank

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Speaker 5: you for explaining the legal process.

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Speaker 3: I love that the legal process. I mean that is

499
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Speaker 3: so smarmy. Yeah, like arrogant cont she's being snarky. Look

500
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Speaker 3: these there's no doubt they're political bias. There's no doubt

501
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Speaker 3: they love Kamala Harris. There's no doubt they're voting for

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. Thank you for describing the legal process. No,

503
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Speaker 3: CBP one is not the legal process. It is an

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Speaker 3: app designed by Kamala Harris and Joe Biden to facilitate

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Speaker 3: a massive invasion of this country.

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Speaker 1: And they and they shut the mic off.

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Speaker 2: I actually am glad they did it because it's just

508
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Speaker 2: and when anybody says in the future, well, there's no

509
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Speaker 2: bias to me and Mike, really did you see? And

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Speaker 2: I love that she says, they try to act like

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Speaker 2: we shut both your micros offt No, you were shutting

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Speaker 2: down jd Vance, who was fact checking you and pointing

513
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Speaker 2: out that she was lying and pointing out she design

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Speaker 2: we got to move on. We have other important things.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I promise you that moment, if

516
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Speaker 2: you pulled the audience in America watching, they would have

517
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Speaker 2: loved to have heard what JD.

518
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Speaker 1: Van said. Like course you would have been like, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to hear this right, Like wait, give me

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Speaker 1: a second.

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Speaker 3: That's absolutely right. But CBS didn't want the audience to

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Speaker 3: hear that.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: There was another moment on the same topic of the

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Speaker 3: border where Tim Waltz said the most brazen lie of

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Speaker 3: the entire debate, and when Waltz was back pedaling and

527
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Speaker 3: trying to defend the disaster of Kamala's open borders, Tim

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Speaker 3: Waltz said, quote, border crossings are down, compared to when

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump left office.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, which is a lie. And you and I

531
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Speaker 1: both are looking at the TV like that that's not true.

532
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Speaker 3: That that is not slightly true. It's not kind of true.

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Speaker 3: It's not in any way. And let me give you

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Speaker 3: the stats. So in December twenty twenty, the total encounters

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Speaker 3: with illegals was eighty nine thousand and seventy two. In

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Speaker 3: August twenty twenty four, the total encounters was one hundred

537
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Speaker 3: and fifty eighty nine hundred and eighty eight, So it

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Speaker 3: was nearly twice as many. And and mind you, look,

539
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Speaker 3: there's been a slight dish up in the last couple

540
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Speaker 3: of months because Biden and Harris are trying to pretend

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Speaker 3: to do something about the border, and they're just doing

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Speaker 3: it as electioneering. And to put it in, in all

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Speaker 3: of fiscal year twenty twenty, do you know how many

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Speaker 3: encounters with illegals there were under Trump?

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Speaker 1: How many?

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Speaker 3: Six hundred and forty six, eight hundred and twenty.

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Speaker 1: Two that's like a month in this administration.

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Speaker 3: In fiscal year twenty four year to date, and by

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Speaker 3: the way, we're not all the way through twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Do you know how many of they've been how many

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Speaker 3: two million, seven hundred and fifty six thousand, six hundred

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Speaker 3: and forty six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, these these brave fact checkers, did

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Speaker 3: you notice the CBS cut off? They say, wait a second, Governor,

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Speaker 3: you just said that border encounters were lower now than

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Speaker 3: they were under Trump. That is flat out false. They

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Speaker 3: didn't say that because they're not in the business of

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Speaker 3: fact checking democrats.

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Speaker 2: Well, and they also didn't bring up something else that

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Speaker 2: I actually thought there's some misopportunity. I think JD had

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Speaker 2: a great night, but I wish you would have seized

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Speaker 2: on this. The Acting ICE Director put out all of

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Speaker 2: these numbers that we've talked about here, yes, about the

565
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Speaker 2: number of rapists that were let go that we knew

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Speaker 2: were rapists, the number of murderers that were let go,

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Speaker 2: and the number of those that had been charged with

568
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Speaker 2: Haines's crimes, and we still let go into this country.

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Speaker 2: And that didn't see the light of day tonight. And

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Speaker 2: it's again it goes back to the moderators, like it's

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Speaker 2: shame on them for not actually talking about the Acting

572
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Speaker 2: ICE Director saying this when they're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: the border, how do you talk about the border without that.

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Speaker 2: But I do and again it's debating's tough, and I

575
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Speaker 2: want to be clear, it's tough, but there was a

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Speaker 2: missed opportunity there. I'm shocked that JAD didn't really try

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Speaker 2: to hammer that that point home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, look, I think JD did a very good

579
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Speaker 3: job tonight. I was surprised that the thirteen thousand convicted

580
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Speaker 3: murderers did not come up. It's such a powerful number

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Speaker 3: and CBS hasn't covered it, the news hasn't covered and

582
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: so this debate was an opportunity for That's actually something

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Speaker 3: that I wish that, like it had been slowly explained,

584
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: that they'd taken a little bit of time. You need

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Speaker 3: to understand that right now today there are more than

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Speaker 3: thirteen thousand illegal aliens who are free, who have not

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Speaker 3: been apprehended, who are convicted murderers. There is nothing whatsoever

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Speaker 3: stopping Kamala Harris from picking up all thirteen thousand of

589
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 3: them tomorrow. Legally she has every right to do so.

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Speaker 3: They are here illegally, they can be detained, they can

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Speaker 3: be deported. And yet and there are another two thousand

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Speaker 3: roughly illegal aliens who have pending murder charges, so they're

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Speaker 3: being charged with murder. And you know what, they're free too.

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Speaker 3: There is nothing, zero preventing Kamala Harris from picking up

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Speaker 3: those two two thousand and I would have loved to

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Speaker 3: see JD turn to Tim Walton say, Governor, why doesn't

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris pick up those fifteen thousand murderers right now?

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Speaker 3: And what would you say to the mothers of the

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Speaker 3: children murdered by these illegal alien murderers that you continue

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Speaker 3: to allow on the street. Yeah, he wouldn't have an

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Speaker 3: answer to that.

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Speaker 1: No, he wouldn't have an answer to that.

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Speaker 2: And look again, like I said, debating is hard, and

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Speaker 2: I think one of the things that he did really

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Speaker 2: well was he talked about the fact that people are

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Speaker 2: suffering in this country because there's so many illegal immigrants,

607
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Speaker 2: and it backfired on CBS. They were talking about the

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Speaker 2: economy and they were talking about the housing crisis. It

609
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Speaker 2: was a little bit later in the debate. Many people,

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Speaker 2: if you didn't watch the whole debate, this was one

611
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Speaker 2: of those moments. I think they actually buried it on purpose.

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Speaker 2: They need to check a box, ask a question about

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Speaker 2: the about housing. But there was a moment there where

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Speaker 2: JD Van Sees on like, well, yeah, of course home

615
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Speaker 2: prices are.

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Speaker 1: Going to be up.

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Speaker 2: You let fifteen to twenty million people in this country,

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Speaker 2: they got to have a roof over their head. They're

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Speaker 2: competing with you, especially for low cost housing and apartments,

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Speaker 2: which is skyrocketing.

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Speaker 3: Price undoubtedly, And and and CBS really beclowned themselves on

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Speaker 3: this because because one of the moderators chimed in and said, well,

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Speaker 3: do you have any evidence of that? What proof do

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Speaker 3: you have of that? And JD, to his credit, was

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Speaker 3: prepared and said, well, actually, there's a Federal Reserve study

626
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Speaker 3: that lays out the impact of illegal immigration driving up

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Speaker 3: the cost of housing, and we'll put that out on

628
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Speaker 3: social media right now so you can go read the study.

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Speaker 3: But he also made the point of just supply and demand.

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Speaker 3: What do you think an additional eleven and a half

631
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Speaker 3: million people is going to be ending housing is going

632
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Speaker 3: to do? Do you do these houses magically get created

633
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: from the sky? Is there a wand that makes them

634
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: makes them come into existence? And the moderators just didn't

635
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: like that point, and and so they they were, but

636
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Speaker 3: they looked pretty silly when they asked if he had

637
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Speaker 3: any evidence and the answer was well, yes, I love.

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Speaker 2: The other day on TV they were talking about the

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Speaker 2: price of hotels in New York City of skyrocketed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because I think it's like one out of x summer,

641
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Speaker 2: of every hotels is filled with illegal immigrants. They're taking

642
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Speaker 2: away hotel room course, so then they get more for the.

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Speaker 1: Hotel rooms that are available.

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Speaker 2: You and I I don't even know if did you

645
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: know I got stranded in New York City and there

646
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: wasn't a single hotel room after we came back from

647
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Speaker 2: the airport.

648
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Speaker 1: Did I tell you this?

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Speaker 2: So this is how bad it is. And this is

650
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Speaker 2: when I learned, like really firsthand. I went the airport,

651
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: was on the plane, was on the plane for like

652
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: four hours. They finally cancel the fight. We pulled back

653
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Speaker 2: up the gate and they say go back in the city.

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Speaker 2: So immediately get on the phone.

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Speaker 1: I called Fox.

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Speaker 2: I'm there for TV. I'm like, hey, I'm going to

657
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Speaker 2: need a hotel room. And I got to get back

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Speaker 2: to the city. And then I get into a fight

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Speaker 2: back in the morning to Houston, and she was like,

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Speaker 2: no problem, I'll call in a minute, go ahead and

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Speaker 2: head down the cars and we'll get you back to

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Speaker 2: the city.

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Speaker 1: She said, I've never seen this before.

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Speaker 2: There's not a single hotel room in the city, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like not And it wasn't like there was like

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Speaker 2: the super Bowl going on. This is a normal Tuesday

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Speaker 2: in New York. And I was like, are you kidding. Well,

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Speaker 2: then I open up my app and I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: get on Expedia. I there are no hotel rooms. They

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Speaker 2: start looking in a New Jersey. They're looking everywhere. Finally,

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Speaker 2: the only option was to go back to the city

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Speaker 2: and hope that someone doesn't come to a hotel room.

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Speaker 2: I sat outside of the hotel I always stay at,

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Speaker 2: know the manager, and I walked in. He's like Ben,

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Speaker 2: He's like, this is because of all the illegal immigrants

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Speaker 2: in the city.

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Speaker 1: He goes, there's no hotel rooms to deal with a capacity.

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Speaker 2: I set outside to one in the morning until finally

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Speaker 2: someone canceled the hotel and then he checked me into

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Speaker 2: that room at one o'clock. So I sat there from

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Speaker 2: seven to one am. My fight was at six in mornings.

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Speaker 2: I slept for like three hours. And he said, this

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Speaker 2: is what they've done to our city, referring to the

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Speaker 2: illegal immigrants and how many have come in. And when

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Speaker 2: I say there was an it was there was not

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Speaker 2: a hotel room in the city. That's what's happening now

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Speaker 2: because of legal immigration centator. I want to talk and

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Speaker 2: wrap on the issue of style. You know, you and

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Speaker 2: I both thought this was going to be a intense debate.

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Speaker 2: They don't like each other, They're going to throw down.

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Speaker 2: I think we're also gotten kind of used to that,

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Speaker 2: which down true, that's what we've seen over the last

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Speaker 2: several years. Joe Biden likes to do that as well.

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Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of the Republican debates. Primary debates.

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Speaker 3: Didn't by the way Hillary and Trump was nasty. They

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Speaker 3: were real nasty.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean they threw down, and tonight I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I did enjoy a little bit of civility, absolutely, and

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Speaker 2: that was something we haven't seen. But I also think

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Speaker 2: if it was a strategy by the by the Trump team,

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Speaker 2: Hey you're gonna be the likable guy. You're gonna try

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Speaker 2: to bring more people into the tent. I want you

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Speaker 2: to walk away really thinking that you're the right choice.

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Speaker 2: They nailed it. If that was the intent tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I think JD came across as as real

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Speaker 3: and relatable. He did a good job of telling his

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Speaker 3: own family story and his own background, I mean his

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Speaker 3: you know, he wrote a best selling book, Hill Billy LG.

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Speaker 3: Was made into a movie, a very very good movie,

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Speaker 3: a movie that's terrific to watch. And but yet a

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Speaker 3: lot of people don't know that story. He's been a

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Speaker 3: caricatured just like Trump has. And and I think tonight

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Speaker 3: made real progress making him seem like a real person,

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Speaker 3: seem like a husband and a father. And you know,

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Speaker 3: someone who is has has journeyed from very humble beginnings

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Speaker 3: to to right now being the nominee to be vice

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Speaker 3: president of the United States. That's that's one heck of

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Speaker 3: a journey.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you share this podcast with your family and

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Speaker 2: your friends, and I'll see you back here tomorrow