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Speaker 2: A couple of great poll questions, and I don't see
Speaker 2: that very often. Great poll questions. First hour. If you
Speaker 2: look at the NFC quarterbacks, best story to make the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl Baker Mayfield, Jared Goff, Jordan Love, and who
Speaker 2: am I leaving out? Brock Perty just getting to the
Speaker 2: super Bowl and then of course in the AFC got
Speaker 2: a rookie, c J. Stroud, got Patrick Mahomes who's been
Speaker 2: there before, Josh Allen hasn't been there. Lamar Jackson no
Speaker 2: success in the playoffs. That's the pole question. Would you
Speaker 2: update the poll results there? Seaton Ron Jaworski former Eagles
Speaker 2: quarterback Joys will join us coming up in a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, Dan AFC quarterback that is super Bowl
Speaker 4: appearance would do the most for right now. Josh Allen
Speaker 4: has fifty one percent of the vote, followed by Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 5: C J.
Speaker 4: Stroud has about fifteen percent of the vote. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 4: almost non existing, not.
Speaker 2: Much, nothing to really gain by getting to a Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: but winning a Super Bowl winning would be a different
Speaker 2: mattret Okay does a lot NFC quarterback? Same question.
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield's got forty percent of the vote, followed by
Speaker 4: Jared Goff, brock Perty, and Jordan Love.
Speaker 2: Pretty close to when you talk about quarterbacks. So there's
Speaker 2: thirty two teams in the NFL and the head coaching positions.
Speaker 2: Normally you can look to how good is your quarterback?
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick he had Mac Jones, Josh McDaniels hitched his
Speaker 2: wagon to Jimmy Garoppolo, Arthur Smith had Desmond Ritter, Ron
Speaker 2: Rivera had Sam Howell, Mike Rabel had Will Levis and
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill, Brandon Staley, he had Justin Herbert, but he's
Speaker 2: a defensive minded coach, and even having Herbert, he couldn't
Speaker 2: overcome all those obstacles. You got to have a quarterback
Speaker 2: in place. And even when you look at these quarterbacks
Speaker 2: in the NFC, Jared Goff number one pick, Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 2: number one pick, Rock Perty, the last pick in the draft.
Speaker 2: Jordan Love is a first round draft pick. But if
Speaker 2: I'm looking at all for those quarterbacks, you're probably going
Speaker 2: they're all really great stories because we didn't expect it,
Speaker 2: you know. Jordan Love, following in the footsteps of Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 2: had his coming out party this year. Rock Perty still
Speaker 2: feels like there's a lot of questions he's one of
Speaker 2: those well let's see what he does in the postseason,
Speaker 2: and he was injured last year, but let's see what
Speaker 2: he does in the postseason. Lamar Jackson, he's gonna have
Speaker 2: two MVPs and now we're waiting for him to go
Speaker 2: deep into the playoffs. Josh Allen, we're waiting. You know, hey,
Speaker 2: got a ton of talent. Might be the most talented quarterback. Okay,
Speaker 2: what do you do when you get to the postseason.
Speaker 2: There's certain plays like Mahomes, We don't say that anymore.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow got there. We may not say that about
Speaker 2: him anymore. Matthew Stafford got there and won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, We're still asking that question.
Speaker 6: C J.
Speaker 2: Stround's a rookie. You're not supposed to be doing this.
Speaker 2: No rookie's ever done this. If you would get to
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, We've had a couple get there in
Speaker 2: their second year. But you know, these quarterbacks and the
Speaker 2: situations that are in you know, Baker Mayfield's been with
Speaker 2: a few teams. Jared Goff got kicked to the curb,
Speaker 2: Rock Purty. Anybody could have drafted him many many times over.
Speaker 2: They could have drafted him and Jordan Love. There was
Speaker 2: a lot of questions attached to why would the Packers
Speaker 2: take him now? And is he going to be any good?
Speaker 2: He had people saying this year, this year, he was
Speaker 2: a bust, that he wasn't going to be good, and
Speaker 2: here he is beating Dallas. Now he goes to San
Speaker 2: Francisco and whatever happens, if they lose, they get blown out,
Speaker 2: it doesn't take away from the season that he had
Speaker 2: or this team had. San Francisco is supposed to win.
Speaker 2: And if you were going to say which one of
Speaker 2: these games is going to be a blowout, that you
Speaker 2: would guarantee that it would be a blowout. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying pie to the face. I'm just saying this one
Speaker 2: will be a blowout.
Speaker 7: Ton If I had to pick one, I can see
Speaker 7: the Lions beating up the Bucks.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's your blowout, yep. Okay, Seaton the game that
Speaker 2: will be a blowout this weekend.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I might say, uh, Packers forty nine ers, Okay, Marvin.
Speaker 7: I love this team. But I might say Raven's beating
Speaker 7: up on the Texans.
Speaker 2: Okay, you love the Texans, is what you're saying.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I love their story.
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, Paulie, the game that will be a blowout.
Speaker 8: I would have to go Ravens Texans. I don't necessarily
Speaker 8: believe it. It's just you're waiting for Stroud to slip up.
Speaker 8: He's giving you nothing to base it off of, though,
Speaker 8: like this is just based off.
Speaker 2: Him being a rookie.
Speaker 8: It's almost not fared him.
Speaker 2: But I would say, Ravens, I'm going to go Niners
Speaker 2: just because the Packers traveling, going back traveling again. Niners
Speaker 2: getting healthy, you know, even though we always see that
Speaker 2: team that's had they and then they start slow and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, Packers are up ten to three,
Speaker 2: and you go, okay. I would probably say that we'll
Speaker 2: get some phone calls here coming up eight seven seven
Speaker 2: three DP show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, twitter handle
Speaker 2: at DP show. Spoke to a college football source this
Speaker 2: morning and I said, uh, how do you think morale
Speaker 2: is in Alabama? Sends a text back a mess and
Speaker 2: I go, why. He goes, they're losing five star recruits.
Speaker 2: And it's not that they're going into the transfer portal
Speaker 2: or they may go in. They're losing five star recruits.
Speaker 2: But Kaylin de Boor he's only been on the job
Speaker 2: for what a week, and you know, to turn this
Speaker 2: around to get that confidence to and he hasn't recruited
Speaker 2: in the SEC. And that's what was said to me
Speaker 2: when we went through all of the coaches and I
Speaker 2: went to my source and I said, what do you
Speaker 2: think about Kaylin de Boor as a candidate at Alabama?
Speaker 2: He said, one, everywhere he's gone, but it's different when
Speaker 2: you're recruiting in the SEC. Well, he's got to recruit
Speaker 2: his own players to stay at Alabama. And that Bill
Speaker 2: Bellot Bill O'Brien has taken the job as the offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator at Ohio State. He is now going to be
Speaker 2: handling the play calling duties and Ryan Day will relinquish that.
Speaker 2: By the way, the Chicago Bears are looking at Cliff
Speaker 2: Kingsbury as their offensive coordinator. He was the offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: at USC. Now they're interviewing a few people. And what's
Speaker 2: interesting is the number of people in this business who
Speaker 2: are saying, oh, maybe Caleb will now want to go
Speaker 2: to the Chicago Bears, Caleb Williams because Cliff Kingsbury is
Speaker 2: going to be there. I haven't heard anything to the
Speaker 2: contrary about Caleb Williams. Now, there was a fake story
Speaker 2: that came out that Caleb Williams didn't want to go
Speaker 2: to the Bears, and some people got duped and they
Speaker 2: ran with it. But I haven't heard anything about Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams not wanting to go to the Bears. And you
Speaker 2: know now people connecting the well Cliff Kingsbury, they're going
Speaker 2: to hire him. Then now he's going to want to go. No,
Speaker 2: it signifies to me that now they're going to take him.
Speaker 2: But I also wonder about this situation. And we spend
Speaker 2: way too much time talking about the Bears and Justin
Speaker 2: Fields for a team that's not very good. But you're
Speaker 2: looking at the situation with Caleb Williams and you're looking
Speaker 2: at the situation with Justin Fields. If I'm Atlanta, I'd
Speaker 2: say Bill Belichick takes that job, or whoever takes that job.
Speaker 2: And you said I could get Justin Fields for a
Speaker 2: third or fourth round pick, I'd do it. Now if
Speaker 2: you say, well you could have Russell Wilson, I'd rather
Speaker 2: have Justin Fields than I would Russell Wilson.
Speaker 8: And you're lightly hot now that that's smoldering.
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson cost a lawful lot of money. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna spend for what am I trading to get Russell Wilson?
Speaker 2: And I'm getting that contract in return. Do I want that? No,
Speaker 2: I don't. Justin Fields would make more sense. I would
Speaker 2: take Kurt Cousins over Russell Wilson.
Speaker 9: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't want. I don't. What am I giving up?
Speaker 2: And what's it gonna cost me? I think Justin Fields
Speaker 2: can play, but I think he can play if he
Speaker 2: has the right situation, Like Justin Herbertter's had how many
Speaker 2: head coaches, how many offensive coordinators? You need consistency at
Speaker 2: that position. I don't care how great you are, you
Speaker 2: need consistency there. He hasn't had that. And if you're
Speaker 2: going to bring in Bill Belichick and you're gonna have
Speaker 2: Justin Fields there, I'd be interested to see how he
Speaker 2: would use him, because do you have a lot of talent?
Speaker 2: Justin Fields is not an accurate thrower, but he's dangerous.
Speaker 2: Now you can say, well, yeah to his team and
Speaker 2: the other team, yeah, I get that. But he's a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. It's excitement there, and it's an upgrade
Speaker 2: over Desmond ridd But do I want Russell Wilson?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 2: Not at that price. If Russ was a third round
Speaker 2: pick and I got to get him, you know, on
Speaker 2: the cheap, am I going to get a couple I
Speaker 2: have to give up what a first round pick for him?
Speaker 2: You got to restructure his deal, Like I don't want that.
Speaker 2: But Belichick has to find that quarterback if he goes
Speaker 2: to Atlanta. Desmond Ritter is not your quarterback. But if
Speaker 2: I could get Justin Fields for a third or fourth
Speaker 2: round pick, heck yeah, I'd give it a spin. All right,
Speaker 2: So we have our poll question there. The points spreads
Speaker 2: entertainment purposes only by the way, the latest Dan Patrick
Speaker 2: takes a Gamble podcast, Shayan Irving, Bad Larry, and Dylan
Speaker 2: the graphics guy. Dylan will come out here I think
Speaker 2: maybe this hour and give us his parlay for the weekend.
Speaker 2: And yesterday it went off the rails again with the podcast.
Speaker 2: Now I will say this don't not safe for work,
Speaker 2: probably not safe for the wife and kids if you're
Speaker 2: listening to it in the car, just letting you know
Speaker 2: that language there. There's usually a lot of crazy stories there,
Speaker 2: and usually coming from Shay and Irving, but it's entertaining,
Speaker 2: it's different, and we eventually get around to picking games.
Speaker 2: But Dylan the graphics go come out here in a
Speaker 2: little bit. All so Texans at the Ravens that's Saturday,
Speaker 2: Ravens by nine and a half. Packers at the Niners
Speaker 2: that's Saturday. That's nine and a half. The Buccaneers at
Speaker 2: the Lions. Lions are giving six and a half. Sunday,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs at the Bills. That's two and a half
Speaker 2: according to DraftKings. All right, a couple more phone calls here,
Speaker 2: Joe in Wisconsin, Hi Joe, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9: Barn and gentlemen, Fritty, I think with the full question,
Speaker 9: Packers are staring on kind of a weird one and
Speaker 9: one deal with Jordan Love. So if he wins the game,
Speaker 9: wins another game, all of a sudden, we're staring down
Speaker 9: fifty million a year. If he loses the game gets
Speaker 9: blown out, all of a sudden, we're in that position
Speaker 9: that you like where you get to watch him for
Speaker 9: another year and you don't have as much pressure to
Speaker 9: watch but or as much pressure to pay. But I've
Speaker 9: got a pie to the face, bet or Marv or
Speaker 9: anyone who's interested. I got my precious Packers straight up.
Speaker 2: Marvin, you're a Niner apologist, straight up against the Packers.
Speaker 2: Pie to the face.
Speaker 7: Oh you know what?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Charming I'm sorry, Joe. Okay.
Speaker 8: I have a theory that Marvin doesn't not want to
Speaker 8: mess with his team by doing bets. I think he's
Speaker 8: such a Niners fan that it's like a jinks to
Speaker 8: him because they're.
Speaker 2: Clearly, well, why don't we let Marvin answer why he's
Speaker 2: not doing this?
Speaker 7: I bet one random stuff like will the Giants make
Speaker 7: the playoffs? The New York Football Giants, which I lost. Okay,
Speaker 7: so but not the Niners.
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, Joe, No takers here. Marvin is soft?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 2: Jeff and san Antonio? Hi, Jeff, what's on your mind?
Speaker 5: One of TV's they say, show Happy Fatday.
Speaker 11: Just going back to your uh, your one take about McCarty,
Speaker 11: the comparison to Bobby Cops. I was thinking as a
Speaker 11: Mets fan. I saw him dominate the NLS for years,
Speaker 11: and they were at least living in the world series
Speaker 11: got McCarthy down out here in the first and second
Speaker 11: round all the time. I took him more around along
Speaker 11: the lines.
Speaker 5: Of Doc Rivers.
Speaker 11: If he won the one big one in that Boston
Speaker 11: and then what the Philly had the MVP and then
Speaker 11: indeed always down out in the first round, second round.
Speaker 11: Stuff like that, let's see what your take. Look.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I mean Bobby Cox won one World Series title.
Speaker 2: Now his team got to the World Series. Uh, but
Speaker 2: they won one World Series title. But yeah, Doc Rivers,
Speaker 2: that might be a good comp that he won his
Speaker 2: his one title. That's it, man. He had some bad
Speaker 2: exits from the playoffs, bad Clippers fixers. Yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 2: Matt in Tennessee, Hi, Matt, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 12: Hoday in Hot Day and Ed's good morning. Happy to
Speaker 12: meet Friday. I'm kind of like the last callers going
Speaker 12: to call on about coaches, you know, when you talk
Speaker 12: about Kobe Bryant, where he's got two careers, the beginning
Speaker 12: of his career and kind of the end of his career. Well,
Speaker 12: I've kind of thought the same thing with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 12: Like he came in and he's like Bary Switzer. He
Speaker 12: rode Bill Cower's cotails and got a Super Bowl a
Speaker 12: year two, but then after that it seems like the
Speaker 12: rest of his career is more like Jason Garrett, you know,
Speaker 12: where you stick around, get some wins, but nothing spectacular,
Speaker 12: you know. And I just thought i'd see what you
Speaker 12: guys thought about that.
Speaker 2: Well, I mentioned this yesterday. I don't know if we
Speaker 2: hold Mike Tomlin accountable like we do other future Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame coaches or really good coaches. They won a
Speaker 2: playoff game since twenty sixteen, and yes, you do have
Speaker 2: a winning record and you're usually in the playoffs, but
Speaker 2: you have nothing to show for it. And it just
Speaker 2: feels like there's low pressure on Mike Tomlin and there's
Speaker 2: no national pressure on him. I don't know the local angle,
Speaker 2: but you know, Mike has been doing this for seventeen
Speaker 2: years and he's going to go to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: But as a result, I would think there'd be more
Speaker 2: pressure on him. Hey, you haven't won a playoff game
Speaker 2: in a long time. I mean that's an eternity for
Speaker 2: a guy who's been at the same place and he's
Speaker 2: had winning records and you don't have much to show
Speaker 2: for it. Yeah, Mark, And.
Speaker 7: When you kind of think about when you have Le'Veon
Speaker 7: Bell and Antonio Brown in his like absolute peak with
Speaker 7: Ben Roethlisberger and they still have no playoff success with
Speaker 7: them as head coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Ron Jawarski will join us. We'll ask
Speaker 2: him the poll questions, rank the better stories with these
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks. All Johns has picks already for the games
Speaker 2: this weekend. He just sent those to me. I like that,
Speaker 2: So Ron Jawarski will join us coming up. Jolie back
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Speaker 2: the NFC Championship trip to the Super Bowl many many,
Speaker 2: many years ago, and Jaws Jaws already gave us his
Speaker 2: picks for this weekend. All right, so let's see. Let
Speaker 2: me see what Jaws has Jaws the Ravens over the
Speaker 2: Texans by four, Niners by eighteen over the Packers, Lions
Speaker 2: by ten over the Bucks, and the Bills by three
Speaker 2: over the Chiefs. Let's make way for Ron Jaworski. Hey, Jaws,
Speaker 2: how are you dan?
Speaker 6: Great to be with you, appreciate the introduction. I did
Speaker 6: not like that many many years go though the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: It don one too many.
Speaker 6: Many's one too many.
Speaker 2: Okay, let me start in your backyard here with the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni's future will be decided when.
Speaker 6: It's already been decided. He should be the coaches bill
Speaker 6: olp Eagles and finish his contract. I mean he's won
Speaker 6: thirty four and lost seventeen regular seasons game be in
Speaker 6: the playoffs three years, went to the Super Bowl. Yes,
Speaker 6: it was, it was an awful finish of the season.
Speaker 6: But I think that the full body of worker Nick
Speaker 6: Sirianni says there should be no concern about Nick Sirianni
Speaker 6: being the next next head coach and stay as the
Speaker 6: head coach of the Eagles.
Speaker 2: Are they going to announce this or the fact that
Speaker 2: they're not announcing it leads you to believe that you know,
Speaker 2: there there's nothing to see here, Let's move on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Jeffrey Lurie, Howie Roseman, they take these
Speaker 6: things very very seriously, as do all owners in the NFL.
Speaker 6: But the Eagles have always been very careful and uh
Speaker 6: looking at every option they have, uh and I just
Speaker 6: got to believe they believe in the knicks. I mean,
Speaker 6: the guy who's done a good job, Jeffrey will be
Speaker 6: very very thoughtful in his approach to it. I think
Speaker 6: when he when he thinks it through, there will be
Speaker 6: There will be changes, There's no question. I mean, the
Speaker 6: team cratered, and you know the second half of the season,
Speaker 6: there will be changes. I don't think it'll be Nick
Speaker 6: with Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 2: Okay, can you pinpoint what happened here in the last
Speaker 2: eight games with this team and you know the loss
Speaker 2: to Tampa Bay, Like, is there a singular thing that
Speaker 2: you can point your finger to.
Speaker 6: I don't think there's a singular thing, Dan, And there's
Speaker 6: there's kind of a theory that that that I have
Speaker 6: I know is right wrong or different. But during that
Speaker 6: ten to one, ten and one start, you know, the
Speaker 6: team was playing good football, but they were barely winning
Speaker 6: football games, and a lot of things went their way,
Speaker 6: and you sometimes get to believe in yourself that you're
Speaker 6: infallible and you just have to show up and win.
Speaker 6: And the loss of the forty nine ers, the loss
Speaker 6: of the Cowboys, I think, I think rock the foundation
Speaker 6: of the football team, and they never really regathered from that.
Speaker 6: They they they all of a sudden doubt, you know,
Speaker 6: got into play. You know, you lose to uh Seattle,
Speaker 6: you lose to the Giants, you lose to Arizona. I
Speaker 6: think they won that Tampa game with serious, serious doubt
Speaker 6: that they were quality football team.
Speaker 5: I believe they were.
Speaker 6: I believe offensively they have as good as talent as
Speaker 6: any team in the National Football League. Defensively, a lot
Speaker 6: of injuries and the defense is really hurt them. Coaching
Speaker 6: change from the coordinators, I think at that midseason point
Speaker 6: hurt them. But I still think the town level on
Speaker 6: the team is very, very good. But that second half
Speaker 6: of the season was absolutely it was hard to deal with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you change defensive coordinators, the secondary wasn't
Speaker 2: very good. Jalen Hurts might have been hurt, but I
Speaker 2: didn't think he played, you know, anywhere near what we
Speaker 2: saw in the Super Bowl last year. But Nick Sirianni,
Speaker 2: you think is going to say as the head coach,
Speaker 2: let me ask you the do you think the Cowboys
Speaker 2: reached down to anybody before deciding that Mike McCarthy was
Speaker 2: going to be the head coach?
Speaker 9: I do not.
Speaker 6: I think Jerry Jones felt very comfortable with Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 6: And again, you look at the full body of work
Speaker 6: of Mike McCart it's been very good. Jerry Jones has
Speaker 6: always been very conscientious about coaches that he's going to keep.
Speaker 6: You know, Jason Garrett, I think was there nine nine
Speaker 6: and a half years. He doesn't make knee yer decisions.
Speaker 6: I think he has thoughtful as well. He wants to
Speaker 6: win as much as anybody. But all these owners, all
Speaker 6: these coaches, all these players, they all want to win.
Speaker 6: Badly their professionals, and they want to win. But I
Speaker 6: think sometimes a non reaction is the best reaction, not
Speaker 6: a panic move. And I think I think when when
Speaker 6: Jerry and his sons got together and reviewed where his
Speaker 6: team has been maybe over the last decade or two decades,
Speaker 6: I think they felt at this point Mike McCarthy was
Speaker 6: the best choice to move forward.
Speaker 2: Can you see Bill Belichick in Atlanta?
Speaker 6: I certainly can.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think I think when you look at the Arthur Blank,
Speaker 6: you know he's dying for a winner, you know. I
Speaker 6: mean he's he's been trying and trying and trying, and
Speaker 6: it just hasn't worked with some of the kind of
Speaker 6: i'll say unknown coaches that he's hired maybe didn't have
Speaker 6: the pedigree of a Bill Belichick. And I think Arthur
Speaker 6: Blank would be in to bring in, you know, obviously
Speaker 6: the greatest coach of all time, you know. So if
Speaker 6: you can bring that coach to Atlanta, create that buzz
Speaker 6: and find a quarterback, there's a lot of tap on
Speaker 6: that Atlanta team. You find the right quarterback, you know,
Speaker 6: you find your stroud, that team can turn it around
Speaker 6: real quick.
Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you, we have a couple
Speaker 2: of poll questions here. If I was going to ask
Speaker 2: you to rank the better story of the four remain
Speaker 2: four remaining quarterbacks in the NFC. So if we start
Speaker 2: with Baker Mayfield in making it to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: not winning the Super Bowl, what what is the best
Speaker 2: storyline Jared Goff going back to the Super Bowl, brock
Speaker 2: Perty getting to the Super Bowl, and of course Jordan
Speaker 2: Love the best story of those four quarterbacks making the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl is who Wow.
Speaker 6: They're all They're all great stories. I think, you know,
Speaker 6: my knee jerk reaction would be Baker Mayfield. I think
Speaker 6: because he had kind of been thrown to the side
Speaker 6: of the road as a guy that was done, you know,
Speaker 6: been with a number of teams and they didn't see
Speaker 6: enough in him. He gets in a situation where Todd
Speaker 6: Bowles believes in him. He hit some rough patches during
Speaker 6: the regular season. He worked his way through it, you
Speaker 6: know it, fought through injuries late in the season, worked
Speaker 6: his way through it. And I think the game he
Speaker 6: played against the Eagles on Monday, it was a phenomenal
Speaker 6: football game. But I think when you look at the
Speaker 6: history of Baker Mayfield, everyone thought he was a bust
Speaker 6: and now he's got a chance to, you know, a
Speaker 6: couple of wins away from a Super Bowl appearance. So
Speaker 6: I knee your reaction. The Baker Mayfield is a top story.
Speaker 6: But they're all good stories. Yeah, yeah, they really are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would take Baker Mayfield as well. Now the AFC,
Speaker 2: if I said, c J. Stroud in his rookie year
Speaker 2: is going to go to the super Bowl, Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: going back to the Super Bowl, Josh Allen going to
Speaker 2: his first super Bowl, and Lamar Jackson going to his
Speaker 2: first super Bowl. That's still easy.
Speaker 6: This one's easy.
Speaker 2: CJ.
Speaker 6: Spratt Stroud, he has been absolutely phenomenal a rookie to
Speaker 6: play at the level he's playing at, I think is
Speaker 6: just remarkable. And you know, as you can see over
Speaker 6: my shoulder, here is my large screen TV not on
Speaker 6: right now. This is where I watched the coach tape
Speaker 6: every single week of as many games I can get through.
Speaker 6: And as I've watched Stroud progress this season, it has
Speaker 6: absolutely been been fun to watch.
Speaker 2: Okay Jones, when when you get the coaches film compared
Speaker 2: to what we see, what do you see with CJ. Stround?
Speaker 6: I see I see eleven offense and eleven defense. You
Speaker 6: see the design of the play and what the defense
Speaker 6: doing to take it away, and what the main thing
Speaker 6: that I see what jumps out of me his ability
Speaker 6: to see the field. He doesn't have a tunnel vision.
Speaker 6: When he breaks the pocket, He's very expansive in his
Speaker 6: view of the field. He throws people open. They are covered.
Speaker 6: He sees the void. In defense with accuracy and anticipation,
Speaker 6: he throws people open. He's fearless in the pocket. He'll
Speaker 6: stay in the pocket and look down at Gunnberto, which
Speaker 6: I think is very very important today's NFL because you're
Speaker 6: still going to get hit. Even though the rules have changed,
Speaker 6: the quarterback is still going to get hit. So you
Speaker 6: need to be fearless in the pockets. And his ability
Speaker 6: to move outside the pocket and still keep his eyes downfield.
Speaker 6: And believe you know, we hear that statement a lot
Speaker 6: about quarteracks. Well his eyes are downfield. Well, no kidding,
Speaker 6: but it's amazing. Some guys the pocket and they started
Speaker 6: looking down and looking for place to run. If you're
Speaker 6: going to be effective as a as a movement quarterback
Speaker 6: in this league, your eyes must be down the field
Speaker 6: and still moving as you're scanning down the field.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you see with Jordan Love that we
Speaker 2: may not see.
Speaker 6: A little Aaron Rodgers, maybe a lot of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6: I think there's a there's a part of his game
Speaker 6: which I look at him go oh my god, what
Speaker 6: are you doing? Throwing off balance and off his back foot?
Speaker 6: And there was there was Maybe it's the Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 6: Brett Farber approach and playing quarterback then that stays in
Speaker 6: Green Bay. But some of the most uncommon throws you'll
Speaker 6: see made by those guys. And I think Jordan Love
Speaker 6: has kind of picked it up from Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 6: and and the ability to test himself. But what I
Speaker 6: mean by that is make those difficult throws. Try to
Speaker 6: make those difficult throws, and then as you move on
Speaker 6: in your career, you filter them out. You you finally
Speaker 6: figure out what you can do and what you can't do.
Speaker 6: I think was what he's really figured out now is
Speaker 6: what he can do and has forgotten about what he
Speaker 6: can't do and doesn't try to do that.
Speaker 2: What do you see with Mahomes? How can you now.
Speaker 6: Love Patrick Mahomes? I mean, the way he plays the game,
Speaker 6: it's just it. It drives me crazy because you know,
Speaker 6: I'm kind of an old school long for mechanics and
Speaker 6: things like that, and he throws that all out the window.
Speaker 6: You know, he'll not set his feet, he'll throw off balance,
Speaker 6: he'll throw off platform. Uh, he'll throw off rhythm. He'll
Speaker 6: throw off non rhythm.
Speaker 2: But what's it like as a quarterback, though, Jaws, when
Speaker 2: you may not have complete confidence in your receivers?
Speaker 6: Horrible?
Speaker 2: What's that feeling?
Speaker 6: But Dan, it's it's horrible. You know when when you
Speaker 6: see receivers dropping the football, you know, and and and
Speaker 6: you're always gonna say the right things the media answer question.
Speaker 6: You're always you're always gonna support your guys, are your teammates,
Speaker 6: they're not trying to drop the football. But deep down
Speaker 6: inside of you, you get there, oh my god, oh
Speaker 6: my god, could he make a damn catch? You know,
Speaker 6: I mean, and it begins to deteriorate it. And honestly,
Speaker 6: you know, I played seventeen years and like I said,
Speaker 6: I've had receivers that had chronic drops. So then that happens.
Speaker 6: That just the way it is. And the only thing
Speaker 6: you can do is hug them and hopefully they can
Speaker 6: work their way through it, but this team, I mean,
Speaker 6: I believe they had the most drop balls any team
Speaker 6: in the National Football League this season. So as a quarterback,
Speaker 6: you're probably looking at those bonuses you may have for
Speaker 6: completion percentage, so they're costing your money as well.
Speaker 2: Dan, great to talk to you as always, Johns have
Speaker 2: fun this weekend. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6: Please, Doude. Thanks Dan, always a pleasure being on the show.
Speaker 2: That's Ron Juwarski, former NFL quarterback and he works the
Speaker 2: Eagles pre and postgame live for NBC Sports Philadelphia. He's
Speaker 2: not surprised at all, I think, so it's a foregone conclusion.
Speaker 2: Nick Siriani, of course, we'll be back. A couple of
Speaker 2: phone calls in here. James in California, Good morning, James.
Speaker 2: What do you have for me? And you're on DP
Speaker 2: James Reef.
Speaker 10: Twenty pounds five seven. Yeah, I just want to ask
Speaker 10: quick questioning yesterday, former CEO of the Raiders name is
Speaker 10: Amy Trask, on our podcast yesterday basically said with the
Speaker 10: four games, eight quarterbacks, we have seven terrific qbs and
Speaker 10: Rock Purty. So basically she's saying she went she got
Speaker 10: a lot of heat for saying that, and She was
Speaker 10: basically saying that Rock pretty stacked. That's why all the
Speaker 10: other ones they they work with what they got, but
Speaker 10: Rock Purdy just has a stacked offense. Therefore, she was
Speaker 10: just saying he's just good, He's not terrific. I know
Speaker 10: you earlier kind of went through it and explained a
Speaker 10: lot of about the quarterbacks and went out, But I
Speaker 10: was just wondering what you think. A.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't hear it, PAULI heard it,
Speaker 2: but I'd like to give context if we can.
Speaker 8: Yeah, she was being asked to kind of rank the
Speaker 8: quarterbacks and the left in the playoffs, and the headlines
Speaker 8: around where Amy trest says Rock Purty's the worst quarterback
Speaker 8: left in the playffs. She never said that, by the way.
Speaker 8: She said he's the one who's somewhat unproven. Someone unproven
Speaker 8: in playoff games hasn't had to do it alone without
Speaker 8: you know, Debo and McCaffrey, which I don't think is
Speaker 8: that hot of a take, but he got positioned. It's
Speaker 8: he said he's the worst, like he's not.
Speaker 2: Even if he goes to the super Bowl, even if
Speaker 2: he wins the super Bowl, even if he's the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl MVP. People still have doubts because he's got a
Speaker 2: lot of talent around him. They will I understand it.
Speaker 2: You know, we may look at Jordan Love and say,
Speaker 2: we don't know those those young receivers he has or c. J. Stroud,
Speaker 2: we don't know that those players around him. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: has always had a lot of talent around him. I mean,
Speaker 2: nobody knocks Patrick Mahomes. When he had Kelsey and he
Speaker 2: had Tyreek Hill, nobody said, well, he's winning because he
Speaker 2: got a Hall of Fame coach and he's got two
Speaker 2: guys who were going to the Hall of Fame as well, right,
Speaker 2: nobody said anything about that. I mean, Mahomes it's a
Speaker 2: given best quarterback in football, but nobody has ever held
Speaker 2: it against him that he had a lot of talent
Speaker 2: with him and a Hall of Fame coach with him.
Speaker 2: So we tend to pick and choose when it comes
Speaker 2: to what makes good TV, good radio or podcast, and
Speaker 2: rock Perty is going to you know, he'll fall into
Speaker 2: that category because we're waiting to see. We were waiting
Speaker 2: last year to see and then he got hurt. Now
Speaker 2: we want to see this year and anything other than
Speaker 2: going to the Super Bowl will you know, hurt his
Speaker 2: reputation or it'll take a hit. I get it, but
Speaker 2: he's surrounded by town. Yes he is. Did anybody hold
Speaker 2: that against well, they probably did with Troy Aikman, that
Speaker 2: you have a Hall of Fame line, Hall of Fame coach,
Speaker 2: hall of Fame running back, hall of Fame wide receiver,
Speaker 2: you had Hall of famers on defense. I don't know
Speaker 2: if people said yeah, but Troy he's not a great quarterback.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's in the Hall of Fame, and maybe
Speaker 2: people did knock him because he doesn't have the great
Speaker 2: numbers there. But you know, Troy was a game manager
Speaker 2: when being a game manager is just being smart, Like
Speaker 2: what you know, I got these weapons, utilizing these weapons,
Speaker 2: and I think Brock Perdy has done that. But he
Speaker 2: has to get to a super Bowl. Lamar Jackson has
Speaker 2: to get to a super Bowl. Now you're winning another MVP.
Speaker 2: We're waiting. You got your big contract. Now we're waiting
Speaker 2: to see. Now this is what we want out of
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. He's not whatever he did during the regular season.
Speaker 2: I couldn't care less, Just like Josh Allen, I want
Speaker 2: to know what you do, and like Josh Allen needs
Speaker 2: to win this game, needs to win this game. Now
Speaker 2: you're at home. Dak Prescott need needed to win last week. Hey,
Speaker 2: you had this great season leading the NFL touchdown passes.
Speaker 2: You got outplayed by Jordan Love once again. What's going
Speaker 2: to happen next season with Dak Prescott? Yeah, let's wait
Speaker 2: till the postseason. John, I mean there's certain quarterbacks. T
Speaker 2: two is going to be the same way. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: let me see, wait till the postseason, players like Joel Embiid.
Speaker 2: You might win the MVP again this year. And what
Speaker 2: are we going to say? Yeah, let's see you get
Speaker 2: to a finals here, Let's see you win one. Let's see.
Speaker 2: You know, there's no question about the Joker anymore. You know,
Speaker 2: Luca's gonna face this maybe is facing. Yeah, but this
Speaker 2: is what we ask for when we're looking for greatness,
Speaker 2: when we're looking for legacy. Can you win a game,
Speaker 2: a big game, even when you don't play well? Yeah, Marph.
Speaker 7: In Pro Sports, it goes from he's the hot young
Speaker 7: quarterback too. All right, that's cute. Now you're in your fifth, sixth,
Speaker 7: seventh year. All right, let's see some results. Now you
Speaker 7: got the big contract. You got everything you wanted, you
Speaker 7: got the receivers, all that the good roster. Let's win now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think we're being unfair. Justin Herbert
Speaker 2: do something, Trevor Lawrence, do something. You get the attention,
Speaker 2: you get the money, and then you're going to be
Speaker 2: critique more than anybody else. It goes with the territory.
Speaker 2: But I would think if you say this guy has
Speaker 2: to make the Super Bowl, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 2: they would be my top two because we keep waiting
Speaker 2: for Josh Allen with all this talent. Now you have
Speaker 2: home field advantage. Lamar Jackson, you're gonna have home field advantage.
Speaker 2: One of those two had better get to a super Bowl.
Speaker 2: All right, We'll take a break. More phone calls coming up.
Speaker 2: We'll check back in with the Cowboys. The great reporter
Speaker 2: for NFL Network, James Slater, will join us back after
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Speaker 2: Dylan the graphics Guy, part of the Gambling Podcast with
Speaker 2: Bad Larry, Shay and Irving and Dylan is killing it.
Speaker 2: He was great during the regular season, turning a prophet,
Speaker 2: and started off okay in the postseason as well. Of course,
Speaker 2: Bad Larry has lived up to his name. He's just bad.
Speaker 2: And then Shay and Irving, when he sobers up, sometimes
Speaker 2: does pretty well in picking games. So Dylan joins us
Speaker 2: one of the back room guys, and you got you
Speaker 2: have a parlay for us for this weekend.
Speaker 3: Well, so I actually I have a few prop.
Speaker 2: Bets, oh prop bets.
Speaker 14: I have my parlay we did yesterday all the games
Speaker 14: against the spread.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you can give that to us again.
Speaker 14: So I've got the Ravens minus nine and a half,
Speaker 14: the hold on one moment Dan, Okay, all right, I
Speaker 14: got it. Packers was nine and a half, okay, Lions
Speaker 14: minus six and a half, Bill's minus two and a half.
Speaker 2: Okay, and your prop bets.
Speaker 14: My prop bets are Ravens d slash special team anytime
Speaker 14: touchdown scorer plus four hundred, I'm gonna get on C. J. Stroud,
Speaker 14: and then Josh Allen first TD plus five fifty.
Speaker 2: Oh, he will have the first touchdown of anybody in
Speaker 2: the game, of anyone in the game, running or passing,
Speaker 2: no running or receiving, running or receiving correct. Oh okay.
Speaker 14: And then I'm gonna softly hedge that with Josh Allen
Speaker 14: last touchdown scorer plus five us. Okay, squeeze a little bit,
Speaker 14: and then Dan, I don't know if you remember the octopus,
Speaker 14: enlighten me. So the same player who scores then scores
Speaker 14: the subsequent two point conversion.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so eight points therefore the octopus.
Speaker 14: Plus twelve hundred for an octopus in the Bucks Lions game.
Speaker 14: I don't know why I just spoke to me, but
Speaker 14: I dined out on the octopus in the Super Bowl
Speaker 14: last year.
Speaker 3: It happened, I know, along with a bunch of other
Speaker 3: just ridiculous bets that make absolutely no sense.
Speaker 2: Okay, and I have a hot dog. Oh, you do
Speaker 2: have a hot So that's a morning hot dog for.
Speaker 3: You, Morning hot dog number two. And actually I know.
Speaker 2: It's a meat Friday. Yeah, we have sausages.
Speaker 3: We you prime before you paint.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, thank you. I did.
Speaker 3: I have noticed though.
Speaker 14: I come home and like I look like I work
Speaker 14: on like Burger King or something, because there's like mustard.
Speaker 2: And yeah on my pants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh yeah, I feel great.
Speaker 2: No, well, we can't wait. We can't wait for you
Speaker 2: and Shyan irving in Vegas. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I might avoid him.
Speaker 2: Actually, bad you should. You should public Services of US.
Speaker 2: I think once he lands, he disappears and then he'll
Speaker 2: resurface for the podcast. And bad Larry's not going. Bad
Speaker 2: Larry thought I was giving him tickets to the super Bowl,
Speaker 2: which is actually Larry's.
Speaker 14: I also looked it up on like the ticket website
Speaker 14: to get in the door for the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: The cheapest ticket is like sixty two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and bad Layry is not worth that far far.
Speaker 2: I said, hey, come on out to the super Bowl Wednesday,
Speaker 2: Thursday Friday, get your room and we'll do the gambling podcast.
Speaker 2: And then he thought that we were all staying because
Speaker 2: I can't stay for the game because we have to
Speaker 2: come back and do our show on that Monday. Bad
Speaker 2: Larry didn't understand that.
Speaker 3: No, he's like private jet super Bowl ta yeah him.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 4: It is funny how people always I just had this
Speaker 4: conversation last week where it's like, oh, yeah, well I'm
Speaker 4: gonna I'll be at the super Bowl, and it's like, wow,
Speaker 4: you get to go to every super Bowl. No no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: let me rephrase that.
Speaker 2: I usually leave the Friday before every Super Yeah, we
Speaker 2: go to the city that hosts the super Bowl every year. Right, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is, it is.
Speaker 14: I've had that same thing because it's like, no context.
Speaker 14: It's just saying I'm going to Las Vegas for the
Speaker 14: super Bowl. I'll be there for the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: No way, that doesn't mean they'll be at the super
Speaker 4: Bowl there for the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, thank you, Dylan, Thank you Dan.
Speaker 5: You got it.
Speaker 2: A couple of fun up full a phone call. I
Speaker 2: think Seaton does Dylan better than Dylan does Dylan. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it's pretty good.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: I got these guys a hot dog machine where you know,
Speaker 2: you can heat up hot dogs. Those you go to
Speaker 2: a convenience store and I come in at seven in
Speaker 2: the morning and they already got it fired up. Tater
Speaker 2: Todds on there hot dogs and it's a meat Friday
Speaker 2: and Dylan has he's two hot dogs deep. A couple
Speaker 2: of phone calls in here Reeves in South Carolina. Good
Speaker 2: morning Reeves, what's on your mind? Good morning Dan?
Speaker 15: I was calling to give my thoughts on the AFC
Speaker 15: best storyline, and my thought is it has to be
Speaker 15: Lamar Jackson with everything you I've already mentioned about the
Speaker 15: second MVP and needed to show up in the playoffs finally,
Speaker 15: but also just all the contract dilemma this off season,
Speaker 15: with almost almost all these teams that have fired their
Speaker 15: coaches having the opportunity to swoop in and take Lamar
Speaker 15: Jackson and then he rolls in the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 15: don't know how you can top that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he needs to make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the best story. And he's
Speaker 2: the MVP, and he's been MVP before so we can't
Speaker 2: be surprised. But yes, teams could have come in and
Speaker 2: said I kept saying the Jets should have gone after
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson or the Falcon should have gone after Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 2: but nobody wanted to cough up a couple of first
Speaker 2: round draft picks. But Lamar Jackson, great story, MVP. Let's
Speaker 2: see how about Matt and Ohio? Hi, Matt, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind today?
Speaker 5: Hey? Good morning guys.
Speaker 2: How are you great? What's on your mind?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 5: I've got a question. So let's see that. Say that
Speaker 5: Brabel decides that maybe one of these opportunities isn't right
Speaker 5: for him or the owner they don't want him, and
Speaker 5: Ryan Day loses again to Michigan. Could you see Day
Speaker 5: getting fired and Brave Will taking over.
Speaker 2: For well, I could see Ryan Day getting fired. I
Speaker 2: don't know about Rabel going, you know, back to Ohio
Speaker 2: State and'd be great hire. But I don't know if
Speaker 2: Mike wants to go back to college or if he
Speaker 2: doesn't get an NFL. I'm just looking at the possibility.
Speaker 2: I like Rabel and Seattle, but I don't know what
Speaker 2: Seattle's thinking replacing. You know, So whatever Pete Carroll was
Speaker 2: lacking or didn't do or didn't accomplish, they got rid
Speaker 2: of a great coach. All right, you're gonna bring in
Speaker 2: another defensive minded coach, and Mike Brabel, you're gonna be
Speaker 2: bringing an offensive minded coach. You know they're talking about
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn defensive minded coach. You know, I don't know
Speaker 2: if they're going to stick with that. Normally you change
Speaker 2: it up. When you have a coach who's an offensive
Speaker 2: minded one. It doesn't go well. They bring in a
Speaker 2: defensive minded coach. Final Hour on the Way, we'll talk
Speaker 2: to James Slater, NFL network reporter covers the Cowboys. So
Speaker 2: Saturday you have two games Texans Ravens, then the Packers Niners.
Speaker 2: Sunday it's the Buccaneers and the Lions, followed by the
Speaker 2: Chiefs and the Bill. We'll take a break. More phone
Speaker 2: calls coming up this meet Friday. In case you're wondering, man,
Speaker 2: does that smell good? We got white bean chili on
Speaker 2: the menu. We also have some sausage and pasta smoke chreiso.
Speaker 2: Pretty good stuff. Starting to snow here. I like it.
Speaker 2: Build a fire Friday Beers after the show. Of course,
Speaker 2: findal Hour on the Way