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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dalks. Look at us now, tip to tip.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion.

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Speaker 2: That's the spirit we bring to this show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this morning combat. We're just two old goats, but

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Speaker 2: we're here to keep eating trash in your yard. I

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Speaker 2: don't even know what that means really, but here we

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Speaker 2: are on this Monday, the eighth of November twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: My name is Luke Thomas. I join you live right

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Speaker 2: now in the capital of loss status amidos. Here in Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C. I am joined by my heado, lifemate, partner

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Speaker 2: in crime, fellow washed dad, fellow Washington DC traveler, although

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Speaker 2: his situation was much worse than mine. It is my

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Speaker 2: friend in yours, fresh off the morning bird, when he

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Speaker 2: had no bags, no toiletries, no nothing. It's Brian Campbell. Brian,

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Speaker 2: how did it feel it to rush your teeth this

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Speaker 2: morning at eleven am? Because I knew you didn't do it?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you don't want to know. You don't

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Speaker 1: want to know about my uber eats experience at twelve

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Speaker 1: fifteen last night, when the only place within distance was McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: I mean What a time to get back from a

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Speaker 1: ten now make it eleven day Las Vegas road trip.

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Speaker 1: Happy to be back in CT where I am the crown,

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Speaker 1: the clown prince, excuse me of Connecticut after yielding my title.

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Speaker 1: But Luke, what a frickin' week we had for the brand,

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Speaker 1: for our friendship, for fight fans. We're back, baby. I

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Speaker 1: may have slept last night in Arlington, Virginia due to

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Speaker 1: some extreme travel issues. You and I may have been

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Speaker 1: on the same flight with a screaming baby, both of

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Speaker 1: us in middle seats. Thank you showtime, while Dan Rayphield,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Vargas and Jared Swift Hurt enjoyed much more comfortable conditions.

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Speaker 1: But uh, we're back with a bang. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to know what I smell like, but I made it.

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Speaker 1: I showed up when the red lights on. BC's here,

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Speaker 1: and he does turn back into that goat that you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: only I'm talking about the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's not get carried away. But poor

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Speaker 2: BC and I we had a BC. Because he lives

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Speaker 1: I'm a big Charlotte connection.

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Speaker 2: Charlotte Charlotte's another one. So we both took the flight

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Speaker 2: from Vegas to d C yesterday and it was not

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Speaker 2: an awesome flight. We both had middle seats. It was

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Speaker 2: five hours. Then we got stuck in the car tarmac

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Speaker 2: after that it was. It was truly awful. And then

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Speaker 2: BC hold on to BC law couldn't get his connection

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Speaker 2: because hello, our flight was late, so he couldn't get

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Speaker 2: back five hours later. I did not envy you, good sir,

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Speaker 2: although for the record, BC, I offered you a place

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Speaker 2: to stay. Do you want to put that out I

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Speaker 2: offered to do MK right here together in my office.

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Speaker 1: I want to put that out there, you said, b C.

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Speaker 1: You stayed with me at baggage claim to see if

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Speaker 1: I countered, trying to be maybe the the Lithuanian meet

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Speaker 1: in an all Columbian Sandwich. You turned me down. I

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Speaker 2: Luke, all right, well, as long as you got home

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Speaker 2: and you're okay. They had your bags when you landed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were the first ones out. Did

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Speaker 2: I don't recall you ever saying that. Mostly I recall

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Speaker 1: With my eyes, I asked you, all right, hey, I

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Speaker 1: They want pure hardcore government issued MMA Luke Thomas inspired analysis,

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Speaker 1: and they did not get that. In the instant reaction

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Speaker 2: So like, I mean, I don't know what you want

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Speaker 2: I'll say this BC, it's a terrible way to watch fights.

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Speaker 2: We missed half the ship just cracking jokes like, It's

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Speaker 2: not a good way. If you really want to understand

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Speaker 1: The My scoring. My scoring is a lot different, it

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Speaker 2: dot com, showtime dot com. Guys, we're gonna talk Bellatour

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Speaker 2: in today's show too. If you missed Bellatore, I don't

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Speaker 2: pound sand BC. Any final thoughts before we kick off

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Speaker 1: One Sean Grandy who filled in for more. Now we'll

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Speaker 1: about it, Luke. I just want to thank our great fans.

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Speaker 1: I really, I really mean it. We pumped it more

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Speaker 1: and Luke, you know what, we met that challenge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I also got to say thanks to our crew

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you always knew who to talk to about,

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Speaker 2: where the party was afterwards. And by the way, fresh

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Speaker 2: on Showtime pay per view Saturday, December eighteenth. So there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do the shit.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it all. Right, here we go topic number one.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the rundown. Okay, here we go. If

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Speaker 2: and then it's nothing but Mma after that. I know

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Speaker 2: this was on Showtime. That's one. But really the other

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Speaker 2: reason is this PC That was the most significant combat

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Speaker 2: a weight class. He gets a stoppage over Kayleb Plant

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Speaker 2: in the eleventh round. We had a whole thing about it.

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Speaker 2: would you give Canela Alvarez for that on Saturday night?

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Speaker 1: Is this, Canelo did everything he had to do to

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Speaker 1: with a finish eleventh round stoppage, two knockdowns, fight waved off.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why Kayleb Plant was able to linger

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Speaker 2: right as well. He obviously for Caleb Nutt being a

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Speaker 2: it seems like any style with any boxer. I don't

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Speaker 2: Canelo has no shot against him. Canelo has no shot

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Speaker 1: Everyone that grilled me for giving all six of the

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Speaker 1: There was not an indication during that initial run, even

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Speaker 2: Even if you go back to the resume review BC

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Speaker 2: He needed to work on. We're just pointing out to

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Speaker 2: no way obvious. We knew he would be a big

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Speaker 2: And hello, he has gotten that, we should say, BC.

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Speaker 2: That shit is over, dude. They they there was a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean he's he ticks all the boxes.

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Speaker 1: But even if Gluffkin doesn't, that's still a fight they

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports, and truly this is a much more complicated

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Speaker 2: debate than any of us can really do, even in

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Speaker 2: the course of this podcast and whatnot. But if you

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Speaker 2: just look at the resume, what stands out to you

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Speaker 2: but Chavez versus Canelo? Because they're asking me, where does

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Speaker 2: Canelo rank among all time Mexican boxers, And the default

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Speaker 2: answer for a long time has been Julios is our Chavez.

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Speaker 2: And what happens is if you don't pick Javez, people

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Speaker 2: think you're being insufficiently reverential towards him, and they use

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Speaker 2: that insufficient reverence as code for, well, you just don't

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Speaker 2: really understand how he was or the greater implications of this.

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Speaker 2: So let's actually compare and see if we're being insufficiently reverent.

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Speaker 2: B See, if you look at Chavez's resume, the thing

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Speaker 2: that stands out more than anything is just the length

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Speaker 2: of it. By the time it was over, he was

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seven six and two. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: guy was a road warrior in and was busy in

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Speaker 2: ways that modern boxers simply aren't. So partly it is

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Speaker 2: just a different business model, and he does have some

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Speaker 2: nice wins along the way. He beat Roger Mayweather, he

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Speaker 2: beat Meldrick Taylor twice. He beat Hector Camacho, but he

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Speaker 2: had the loss or the Droskies Beinggainst Prunell Whitaker. He

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Speaker 2: lost to de la Hoya twice, he had the loss

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Speaker 2: against Miguel Onhel Gonzalez. He had the loss to cost

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Speaker 2: A Zoo and some other ones. How do you stack

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Speaker 2: up the resume of Canelo versus Julios's ar Chavez.

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Speaker 1: It's very close right now. And some of those losses

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Speaker 1: you mentioned on Chavez was the tail end. Chaves lingered

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Speaker 1: for a very long time, and he was still fighting

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Speaker 1: when his son was an actifier. They would share the

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Speaker 1: same card. The thing to her Chavez. The thing for

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Speaker 1: Chavez that Canelo doesn't have is that in credible stretch

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Speaker 1: of when Chavez was eighty nine oh to one at

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Speaker 1: his peak, when he finally lost cleanly to Frankie Randall

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety four. So in that eighty nine oh

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Speaker 1: and one run, whether a lot of cab drivers as

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Speaker 1: they would say, yeah, absolutely, there was also that draw

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Speaker 1: to Prono Whittaker, which should have been a loss. Really,

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Speaker 1: that draw to Pronow Whittaker, who was number one pop

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Speaker 1: upon at the time, was the equivalent of Canelo losing

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Speaker 1: to Mayweather. You know, it's sort of like, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're great, but there is one other guy in between.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned some of those great wins by Chavez. Really,

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Speaker 1: what's keeping him atop this is he represented something more

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Speaker 1: than Canelo does for such a long time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Canelo has had to overcome the idea of like this

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Speaker 1: movie star looks the red hair and freckles for a

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Speaker 1: Mexican kid, which is, you know, not normal in that

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Speaker 1: way where he had approved to people that he could fight.

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Speaker 1: Whereas Chavez was the everyman. Chavez was the the you know,

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Speaker 1: the the had the same feel as the guy who

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Speaker 1: gets up at five am to go to work, to feel,

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Speaker 1: to feed his family. There was a connection there to

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Speaker 1: the people that I don't think Canelo can He can't

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Speaker 1: get that pure of a connection. He's getting there, he's

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Speaker 1: getting there, But I think when you want to compare

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Speaker 1: the two, it's gonna come down to accomplishments. Chav has

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Speaker 1: got some real names that he beat along the way.

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Speaker 1: He did do it in a more closed set of

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Speaker 1: of of weight classes there, you know, one thirty five,

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Speaker 1: one forty eventually one forty seven. We Canelo's got in

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Speaker 1: his favor along with being the number one biggest star

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Speaker 1: and number one pound for pound, which are things Shavs

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Speaker 1: never fully acclaimed on a global status. Although he was right,

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Speaker 1: you know in that conversation, is Canelo's not doing it

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Speaker 1: over multiple weight classes, unifying titles. Now the first undisputed

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Speaker 1: Mexican champion, and he's taken on the best in the game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's got wins over Miguel Coto for the

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Speaker 1: middleweight championship, Kennati Glovekin. He's starting to really put together.

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Speaker 1: When you when you throw in wins over Danny Jacobs,

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Speaker 1: you're throwing unbeaten Saunders unbeaten plant, Luke, it's close. I

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Speaker 1: don't know right now if I can firmly say he's

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. But it's really gonna come down to

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Speaker 1: what's your what's your pleasure? To some he may have

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Speaker 1: already eclipped Chavez. To others, give him a couple more

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Speaker 1: big wins or or you know, but this whole idea

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Speaker 1: of going across four divisions and already claiming a title

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Speaker 1: at light have youweight? Should he decide to go back up,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna pass Javez. It may have already happened.

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Speaker 3: To some.

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Speaker 1: It feels inevitable right now. He's already done things Chaves

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Speaker 1: never got to. And you know, nobody fights as often

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Speaker 1: as Chavez did back then. In this modern day, we're

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Speaker 1: praising Canalo just for fighting four times in one year, right,

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Speaker 1: all of these factors together. If it's not now, Luke,

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Speaker 1: it will be soon.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think if it's not now, it

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Speaker 2: is frankly inevitable because Canelo is what thirty thirty one

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Speaker 2: in his prime. He has years left of as I

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Speaker 2: said on Saturday night, terrorizing divisions that are nearby to

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Speaker 2: his weight. But I also just want to put this

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Speaker 2: in people's mind, like doing what Saesar Chavez did was

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Speaker 2: you know, incredible, obviously, but you have to ask yourself

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Speaker 2: these are different questions, and that ultimately don't mean who

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Speaker 2: is better, who is the number one? But I think Canelo,

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Speaker 2: if it was forced to, could do what Chavez did.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Chavez could do what Canelo's done.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who could do what Canelo's done, very

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Speaker 2: very very very few. That's just my opinion. There's no

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Speaker 2: way to prove that. But that's why I sort of

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Speaker 2: sighed with what Canelo has done. It's a different era,

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Speaker 2: it's a different kind of achievement. They don't have the

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Speaker 2: same equipments.

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Speaker 1: Let me settle it like this. I think our real

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Speaker 1: argument is, has Canelo's achievements equal the overall grandeur of

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Speaker 1: what Chaves accomplished and what he meant to people? That

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Speaker 1: I think he's He's close, but not over. But I

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Speaker 1: think the other side of it, Canelo is a more

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Speaker 1: complete fighter. Canelo is a better fighter if you put

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Speaker 1: these two together in a mythical meeting. Look, Chavez is great,

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Speaker 1: He's in that fight. He's gonna get inside believe it.

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Speaker 1: I think Canelo is a better fighter at this point

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Speaker 1: in his career.

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Speaker 2: All right, well that let's transition to MMA, which I

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Speaker 2: know some of our audience has been Paci waiting for.

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Speaker 2: So let's get to it here. UFC two sixty eight

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Speaker 2: took place at Madison Square Garden in New York City,

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Speaker 2: and what a card it was. Frankly, what a stretch

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Speaker 2: for UFC. It is two sixty seven and two sixty

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Speaker 2: eight on back to back weeks. Is just This is

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Speaker 2: what I mean when I say I told this to Brian, Like,

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Speaker 2: you have Tyson Fury doing things historically one month and

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Speaker 2: a few weeks later, here's Canelo doing historic things, and

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Speaker 2: in between you just have incredible amounts of high level,

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Speaker 2: you know, totally memorable MMA action. There's just never been

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Speaker 2: a time like this, ever in our lifetime, ever in

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Speaker 2: the history of humanity, for combat sports like this. But

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Speaker 2: let's start with kamar Usman. So he defeats Colby Covington

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Speaker 2: in the main event to retain his welterweight title. I

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Speaker 2: want to talk about Dana White crowning him the goat,

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Speaker 2: which I think is not justified. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: BC here's the thing that we both kind of came

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Speaker 2: up with after the fact. We noticed that a lot

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Speaker 2: of folks had called the fight orles I should say,

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Speaker 2: scored it rather for Colby Covington upon rewatch BC, which

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Speaker 2: I know you did this morning. Do you agree, does

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Speaker 2: Colby Covington have a case for winning on Saturday night?

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Speaker 1: A case? Yes? They were right, and I do understand

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Speaker 1: the plight of some of our fans who were like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I wanted a legitimate Luke Thomas UFC reaction show, and

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Speaker 1: I got BC doing a you know, ten, you know,

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Speaker 1: sixty minute set at a local comedy club. What we

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Speaker 1: missed in that Luke were some of the nuances of

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Speaker 1: the rounds. So here's the deal. The fight looked a

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Speaker 1: lot like the first one, but not completely obviously right.

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Speaker 1: The first one was a gop for all boxing match

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Speaker 1: in which they both were willing to take on big

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Speaker 1: punishment to land their own shots and really just willing

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Speaker 1: to test each other's chin will and gas tank and

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Speaker 1: see who could be the last man standing. Turns out

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Speaker 1: it was Tomorrow by that much. Well, that gap in

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Speaker 1: terms of ability for Camorrow did widen in the nearly

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Speaker 1: two years since that fight. But when you go back

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Speaker 1: and really watch those rounds closely three and four, for example,

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Speaker 1: I think Colby Covington out worked Kamorrow, Whosman and those

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Speaker 1: while into What Usman did very very well was control

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Speaker 1: the center of the cage, land the heavier shots, and

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Speaker 1: really just be patient. Luke, he was patient enough that

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Speaker 1: he basically said, look, you know, I got more ways

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Speaker 1: to beat You. Come at me with your best and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna counter it, and I'm gonna just you know,

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Speaker 1: the difference for the first two rounds between that in

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Speaker 1: the first fight was Usman not willing to take on

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Speaker 1: all that damage for no reason. He was basically saying,

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Speaker 1: you come to me, and I'm still gonna land the

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Speaker 1: harder shots. But what you and I missed in real

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Speaker 1: time and trying to watch that and put on an

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Speaker 1: entertaining show, was that Colby made some nice adjustments and

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Speaker 1: in three and four I had him winning both in

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Speaker 1: close rounds, and I think it came down to that

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Speaker 1: fifth round who you liked better in the end, Luke.

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Speaker 1: I liked Usman by a hair in that final round

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Speaker 1: to hang on and win three rounds to two. I

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Speaker 1: think what that ending missed I don't think Colby sold

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Speaker 1: his performance enough. I don't know if Colby knew it

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Speaker 1: was this close heading to the scorecards. He was a

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Speaker 1: humbled Colby. I know since their post fight hog where

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Speaker 1: you know, Dan Murugulata said why don't you guys go kiss?

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Speaker 1: And you know the Colby's kind of explaining that all

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Speaker 1: that shit talk was just to sell the fight, blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah, we're friends now. I know Colby's come back

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Speaker 1: since then and made some disparaging comments, but I think

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Speaker 1: what was lost in that, Luke was Colby didn't really sell.

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Speaker 1: Not that it matters the judges scores are already in,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't really sell. Hey, I might have just

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Speaker 1: won this fight, Luke. He might have just won that fight.

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Speaker 1: Depending upon where you come from. Again, I thought Ustman

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Speaker 1: edged it, but I saw plenty of people scoring much

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Speaker 1: of the second half for Colby. I want to know

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Speaker 1: what you scored it on second rewatch, And I also

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Speaker 1: want to know from you what Usman didn't do, in

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Speaker 1: your eyes to leave that door open to allow Colby

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Speaker 1: to rally, and that wasn't It wasn't a rally where

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Speaker 1: it's like many he may overtake the champ, But he's

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Speaker 1: got an argument in those final.

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Speaker 2: Three rounds, Luke, he does have an argument. I scored

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Speaker 2: it for first and second round. Obviously the second round

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Speaker 2: you have to score it for Usman, right, I mean

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Speaker 2: that one's easiest call to make on Earth. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: there's that one. I scored rounds one and two for Usman,

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Speaker 2: rounds three and four for Colby. So to me, it

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Speaker 2: came down two two to round five, which, by the way,

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Speaker 2: I think that's how I scored the first fight. I

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Speaker 2: may have had it three to one Usman, but either

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Speaker 2: way it was either three one Usman or two two.

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Speaker 2: And this one I had it two two. Hitting into

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Speaker 2: the fifth, I gave it to Usman by a hare,

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Speaker 2: by a hair. I thought he did just a little

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Speaker 2: bit more of the popping, damaging work, even though Colby

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Speaker 2: had a slight numerical lead there. But that's a tough call.

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Speaker 2: I think that Colby saying he has a case for

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Speaker 2: this is true. But like the problem with making the

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Speaker 2: argument that you have a case to win is that

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00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: argument is almost always going to be equally true for

641
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: your opponent. Right, So what you're basically arguing is that

642
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: the fight is close enough that it comes down to preference,

643
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: and that preference either way. But preference is just going

644
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: to be essentially subjective. So when you argue and when

645
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: you say, oh, I have a case right, that argument

646
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: extends to your opponent as well, which means neither of

647
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: you are allowed to get mad about it, even though

648
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: the stakes are pretty high in this one. I'll tell

649
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: you what really was kind of interesting to me about

650
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: this fight. This was not to me. Ousman is impressive

651
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: in what Let's also back up a step. Not every

652
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: time Saint Pierre won or defended his title was it

653
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: pretty you know, I thought his fight over Dan Hardy

654
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: was not that great. There was a couple times when

655
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: he got very close with submissions, but that was a

656
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: very risk averse performance from George Saint Pierre. He went

657
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: for the takedown, he stayed in guard, he did some passing,

658
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: but there was hardly any ground and pound, and you

659
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: just couldn't quite square the threat at that time of

660
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: Dan Hardy's guard. With the lack of ground and pound,

661
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: it didn't make a lot of sense. So this is

662
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: not me saying that like every time a champion wins

663
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: it's glorious. It's not sometimes it's very much workman like.

664
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: This is one such case. Still, he took the right

665
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: thing from the first fight, which was the first two

666
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: rounds of the first fight, he was switching stances and

667
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: getting eaten up when he went to south ball, so

668
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: he stayed ultimately in orthodox. This fight, he did very

669
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: little switching and was almost entirely in Orthodox the entire time,

670
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: and to the extent BC he was using his jab

671
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: his push kick right where Now you have the distance

672
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: between them, so Colby has to navigate that with his strikes.

673
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: He has to shoot from way outside. I thought Kamaru

674
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 2: won that portion of the fight handily. That was very

675
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: easy for him. What got him in trouble was when

676
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: he would get close and then just exchange more or

677
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: less in the pocket. Colby is actually better there. Colby

678
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: is good about finding these whipping shots that come from

679
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: unique angles. He puts combinations together better there. He's actually

680
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: pretty accurate when you do that. If you stand in

681
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: front of Colby and you want to have a volume battle, dude,

682
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: he will win that one. I think he's shown that

683
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: now over the course of nearly ten rounds between them,

684
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: that he's very good at that. And Kamar who let

685
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: him just basically get away with this for the third

686
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: and fourth round, and the fifth round is where it

687
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: got a little bit different BC, But that's more or

688
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: less how I saw it.

689
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those fights where if you watched

690
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: it without trying to score it, and then at the

691
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: end of it in Pride style, almost was like, you know,

692
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: who do you think won it? You're gonna say Usman,

693
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Usman went to the that finish line thinking, look, man,

694
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: I did enough. I dropped him twice in round two.

695
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: I landed the bigger shots he did. But we score

696
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: this just like in boxing round by round and the

697
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: round by round. Colby had those pockets of two way striking,

698
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, where he was sneaky, he was clever,

699
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: he was faster at times, and I don't think Tomorrow

700
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: did enough to really put that stamp on it. Look

701
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: in real time, I think I saw what I was

702
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: supposed to see from Kamorrow, which is he never let

703
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Colby overtake him, and that was key. And there were

704
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: times in the first fight, specifically round two, where Colby

705
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: won that round clean and no doubt about it. And

706
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: you know he had those stretches where he's backing Tomorrow

707
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 1: up and maybe hurting him and putting on flurries. There

708
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: was really none of that. It was much more slower chess.

709
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: But uh, tomorrow does have to be a little bit careful, Luke.

710
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: In real time, I thought this was a commanding, like

711
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: next step, next level, step forward for Camorrow. We're on

712
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: second watch. I think it was a little bit more

713
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: of you know, do what you have to do, but

714
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: leave it in those judges hands. And I think he

715
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: was lucky that it wasn't the you know, a wrong

716
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: night at the office for him where I mean, he

717
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: could have lost the belt by accident in this one.

718
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: Luke. Yeah. Also Colby saying he got those takedowns, he

719
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: didn't get those takedowns, not by the way which Fight

720
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 2: Metric measures them.

721
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: No, I don't know, man, I mean I know DC

722
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 1: when I got to hear the broadcast when went heavy

723
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: on that that he did, I kind of think he did, Luke.

724
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: I kind of think he got I mean he got

725
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: him down to his hands and knees from behind.

726
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 2: It's not a takedown unless you get on top. It's

727
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: not a takedown if I bring you to your hands

728
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: and knees. It's not a takedown. I get you hit

729
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: your hip all right.

730
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: Let me ask this not out of a place of understanding,

731
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: because I don't claim to know a ton about this,

732
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: But the first takedown from Colby, which was in the

733
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: first or second round, in which Camorrow rolled through it

734
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: with him so that he could use the momentum against Colby,

735
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: how is that not a takedown? Colby shot in you.

736
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Have to you have to establish control on the ground.

737
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: He never established it. He got his back to the

738
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: ground or whatever, his hip to the ground never under control.

739
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: It was never under control, so it doesn't count.

740
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this argument doesn't do anything for the

741
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: scoring of the fight at the end of the day.

742
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 1: But you know, Kolby did fight his ass off, and

743
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: I give him that respect. I think it was enough.

744
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: Hill. I mean, dude, I actually the second time I

745
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: watched this, I don't know how you felt. I was like, dude,

746
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: Colby got way better. Like, yeah, he knows his strengths,

747
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: he leans into them. He couldn't get shit going with

748
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: the wrestling, but I'm glad he at least tried. I

749
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: thought it made a difference in some ways, Like I.

750
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: Would have liked more more leg strengths. Man, I would

751
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: have liked more more calf kicks, more body kicks, something

752
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: to try to mix it up. There was the threat

753
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: of a head kick once in a while, but he

754
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: didn't really commit to it. But you know, through that though,

755
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: he's pretty damn elite, Luke, it's gonna turn out in

756
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: history that he's gonna fall just short twice of a

757
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: guy who, as we pivot now, you know, is knocking

758
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: on that door of trying to become the best welter

759
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: weight of all time and one one of the truly

760
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: elite fighters in UFC history. But Coolby's not that far off.

761
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting Colby would beat Do you think

762
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: Colby would beat Saint Pierre in his prime? No, because

763
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: he'd get jabbed to death, right.

764
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: I just think GSP has too many ways to control

765
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: a fight. He's a better chess player than Colby.

766
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: He's a better chess player, and he's got phenomenal takedown defense,

767
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: he has empower.

768
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's completely well rounded across the.

769
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: Bad and yet I was just thinking about this because

770
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: it could come to the case, b see where Colby

771
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 2: never wins a title. Now, that maybe he does in

772
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: the future. I don't know, We'll see, but it could

773
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: happen where he doesn't win a title and yet could

774
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: still go down as I don't know where he would rank.

775
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: But in terms of like overall ability, where would it

776
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: put Colby Covington to UH at the end of his career? Again,

777
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: I'll have to see what he does, but he might

778
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: have one of these cases where he belongs among consideration

779
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: as some of the best that waltz where he has

780
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 2: ever had to offer, even never having had the hardware

781
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: raped around his waist. And I know he had the

782
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: interim title, but I mean like the official one. I

783
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 2: guess we'll have to see where he goes from here. So,

784
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: speaking of that BC, where do you think Colby does

785
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: go from here? What's the next right move? He called out?

786
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: He seemed like Jorney masdaw He wanted Jorgey to drop

787
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: out of the fight he has against Leon Edwards. What

788
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: do you think?

789
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the right pivot. I wonder And

790
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 1: I said this to you after the fight and just again, folks,

791
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: okay Luke and I did that live watch show like

792
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: at at you know, it's the most inopportune time for

793
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: us to get it right right. We just watched the

794
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: entire Canelo fight, did all the post fight coverage, did

795
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: a post show. We were watching UFC through you know,

796
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: through our fingers on a second TV, so it wasn't

797
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: our best way to really zoom in. We did the

798
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: best we could for you there. Now we're giving you

799
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: the good stuff. I thought, I wonder how much more

800
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: Colby has in him. Meaning when you got to the

801
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: mountaintop and you fall just short twice and that guy

802
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: that you just fell just short to, he's not going

803
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: anywhere for a while. So your chances of a title

804
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: shot in your prime, it's not looking good right now.

805
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 4: So what do you do.

806
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: I think you pivot to try to make the most

807
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: money you can. And he's done a great job, by

808
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: the way, even through cringe methods of having these little

809
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: beefs with all these guys, whether it be lightweights, whether

810
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: it be welterweights, that he can sort of focus in

811
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: on and cash in on him. I think that's the

812
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: point of his career where he's going to I just

813
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: wonder how many more times he's actually gonna fight, Because

814
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: when you get to that level and he puts so

815
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: much into trying to be the best, and you can't

816
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: be the best sometimes those guys don't linger for a

817
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: long time. So him deciding on Mazwell right now is

818
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: very smart. Mazwdal's stock at the moment is still relevant

819
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: from a name value, but he's pushing into his late thirties,

820
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: and that magical year of twenty nineteen, in my eyes,

821
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: is getting further and further away. I think that's a

822
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: fight Colby Covington can win, will win, knows he's gonna win,

823
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: and it seems like a smart move. There's plenty of

824
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: backstory there. He could almost luke with a little with

825
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: a little nuance. I wonder if he could kind of

826
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: turn a little bit babyface against Mazvidal and get some

827
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: of the people cheering for him. Because George from a

828
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: brand state percentage, you know, from a brand statement, isn't

829
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: as beloved as he was in twenty nineteen by any means.

830
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: No, definitely not. He has his brand has declined to

831
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: a degree. And also, like you know, I didn't know

832
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: exactly how the fans were going to receive Colby. Colby

833
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: Covington has fans, he does, It's I mean again, you

834
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: can say, oh, it's not as big as a lot

835
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: of other bigger names in the UFC, and that's not

836
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 2: we don't know if it's on that level. But you know,

837
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: UFC was saying that they crushing pay per view expectations. Again.

838
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: A big part of that, of course is Camarrow and

839
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: Rose and everybody else who was involved in that car,

840
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: but it's Colby as well. Colby got the biggest pop

841
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: at the presser. You know, it's time to sort of

842
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: acknowledge Colby has built himself into a little bit of something.

843
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: I think they had a chant. Did you hear the

844
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: first round chant for Kobe? I know eventually we got

845
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: to fuck you Colby chant, but first round chant was

846
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: was was all for Colby.

847
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: So both of the both of those are because of

848
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: Colby though, you know what I mean, like they're reacting

849
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: to him in one way or the other. That's all

850
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: he ever cares about. But I will say one thing,

851
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: b C. I will say one thing. We don't know

852
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: what's gonna happened with Hamzat and who's gonna fight next.

853
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gonna get fast tracked to a title.

854
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: Just reading the words in the body language of UC

855
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: President Dana White. That does not seem at a bare

856
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 2: minimum eminent or even likely. So Colby has a little

857
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: bit of time to play with here. I will say

858
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: one thing, as good as he has gotten BC, even

859
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: if Kamaru goes away, I still maintain there's a little

860
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: bit of another level he needs to get to to

861
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: really claim a title. I do believe that. I don't

862
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: think he has maximized his potential, and I don't think

863
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: he has reached quite a level of overall supremacy that

864
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 2: allows him to comfortably say I've sort of peaked in

865
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: terms of my technical growth. What more can there be?

866
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 2: I do think there's another level that he can probably

867
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: find tune things, not to the same degree that like

868
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: Cory Sanmahigan's working on stuff, but he's only twenty nine.

869
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: But I do think that, like if Koby's like, oh

870
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm here, I's gotta wait for this guy to leave,

871
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be so simple as that.

872
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: I think a little bit of work extra in the

873
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: gym is probably warranted.

874
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: Look, let me ask you a question in hindsight, because

875
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to pux me. I don't want to

876
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: put some you know, negativity on Usban because in the

877
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: end this goes down as another great win. But to

878
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: what we were saying upon rewatch of Kolby being more

879
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: in this fight and having an argument to have won it,

880
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: Woswan's everything. I mean, he has evolved so rapidly under

881
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: Trevor Whitman. His cardios insane, his wrestling is amazing. He's

882
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: now a knockout puncher if you come at him. Do

883
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: you think in hindsight you would have liked to have

884
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: seen him close, stronger and go for the finish in

885
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: this fight? Or is that asking too much because he

886
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: got a little gsp like down the stretch.

887
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm one of these guys who obviously

888
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: what you would have wanted to have seen in the

889
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: fifth round was what you saw in the fifth round

890
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: the first time around when he dropped him. You would

891
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: want to have to have seen what happened in the

892
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: second happened in the fifth. That's always going to be

893
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: your preference, But dude, it's not always that easy. Something. Listen,

894
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: this is what I mean about being a champion. Sometimes

895
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 2: champions going there like Canelo and they're just so much better.

896
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 2: Even up a weight class, you're like, wow, man, this

897
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: dude is just inevitable. And sometimes they get by on

898
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: the skin of their teeth or you know. I mean,

899
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: this was a unanimous one, so it's not like so

900
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: skin of the teeth, which you know what I mean,

901
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: Like the fifth round was a little bit close. That's

902
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 2: just how it goes sometimes. So I always agree with you,

903
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: like you really want to see that championship stamp put

904
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 2: on there. It's just when you're when you're fighting a

905
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: guy like Colby Covington, Dude, he's he's gonna be stingy

906
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: with it. It's not gonna be so easy. Let me

907
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: ask you one more question than I want to move

908
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: to the Komaine. Dana White has already declared kubar Usman

909
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: to be the best ever at welterweight, even including over

910
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: George Saint Pierre. I gotta tell you I don't agree

911
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: with that really at all, do you.

912
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not there yet, but to it, obviously, to

913
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: avoid what what Kamaru has done and is doing, would

914
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: be naive. I mean, you look at I'm looking at

915
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: his record right now, twenty and one. Overall, we know

916
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: he lost his second fight way back in twenty thirteen.

917
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: Has never lost in the UFC and has been dominant

918
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: and has evolved into a finisher against and Masvidal and

919
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: Colby the first time. Luke, I just like GSP's consistency

920
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: at the top, his his complete. I mean, we're in

921
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: a gentleman in a true I mean, there are so

922
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: many categories and we're talking about Knelo before GSP like

923
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: that has just clicked off so many categories of what

924
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: it's like to not only be a champion and a

925
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: long reigning champion, but somebody who has an argument at

926
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: that goat chair, whether it's welterweight or the entire sport.

927
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, GSP still does have an

928
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: argument for that overall goat chair in the entire sport.

929
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: If anyone says GSP's the best of all time, look

930
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: you're not. No one's gonna give him a dirty look.

931
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, I'm a John Jones guy, but nobody's

932
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: gonna give hi a dirty look. I don't think Kamorrow

933
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: is there yet. He but he's really close to Tia

934
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: outright declare it now. I think it's a little bit

935
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: more in the moment from Dana to try to bump

936
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: up and sell Tomorrow a little bit more. It's also

937
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: him just respecting an active fighter who's doing everything the

938
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: promotion would want. And also Luke Camorrow didn't stand up

939
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: at a podium in front of a camera with Beorn

940
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: revenue and try to start a fighter's union. And Camorrow

941
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: also didn't win the Middleway title and promise to defend

942
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: it and then drop it. So I mean, like, you know,

943
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: you get it, you get it right, I get it.

944
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying there. I think that the

945
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: case for Camorrow is interesting, and certainly he's the closest

946
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: I've ever seen to someone. By the way, He's almost

947
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: gonna match Anderson Silva's record streak at sixteen, although Anderson

948
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: Silva was fighting in title fights by his second or

949
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: third UFC fights, so they're not identical streaks. But at

950
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: the same time, you know, you win sixteen fights in

951
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: a row in UFC, you're just a complete badass. So

952
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 2: he's he's on the door step. But to me, there's

953
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: just a few more things that aren't there. Plu's never

954
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: forget Saint Pierre went up aweight class after four years

955
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: off and then took the time.

956
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask you that right there, Because

957
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: if you're a Camorrow fan, you'll go, hey, okay, GSP's great,

958
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: but I saw him lose a couple times early on. Right,

959
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: You know, Camorrow has been unbeaten fighting elite competition in

960
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: the UFC. So is there something Tomorrow can do beyond

961
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: defending his title another three four times? Then this is

962
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: probably not gonna be an argument anymore because he's gonna

963
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: acquire those records you talked about for consecutive wins, title wins,

964
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Do you need him to do what

965
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: he said he would only do if the UFC offered

966
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars, which is, move up

967
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: and fight his good friend Israel lot of Sonia. Do

968
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: you do you want and or need him to do

969
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: that to have us? I don't, or maybe I don't

970
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: really know how to word this question.

971
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: I just mean he can be Becau doesn't need to

972
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: do the exact same thing. So then we can just

973
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: measure the two goats together like that.

974
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: No, No, not like I think he could become the

975
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: goat welterweight without doing that. Can he become the actual

976
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: goat without doing something like that?

977
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: No? Probably not. That might be a little bit harder

978
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: to come by because that achievement I think is going

979
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: to be so ubiquitous where even if you want it

980
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: to grant, let's say, when Usman is done, whenever that

981
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 2: may be, you're like, wow, dude, he's the golt welterweight

982
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: and goat all time. Again, let's just assume you want

983
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: us to do that. I think by the time you know,

984
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: ten years fifteen years passes, guys and some ladies, by

985
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: the way, might come along and then just make that

986
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: argument impossible by virtue of capturing titles, which, by the way,

987
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: you know, I do think in the next fifteen years

988
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna see our first triple champ at a high level.

989
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: I think that will happen. It will be unusual and rare,

990
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: and you know, not that not that common certainly, but

991
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: I do think it will happen. It seems inevitable at

992
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: this point. We'll see how that goes. So I do

993
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: think he probably almost I think it's almost inevitable he

994
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: will become welterway goat. We'll see. But I agree, without

995
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: weight class change, the broader argument is almost impossible, all right.

996
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: B See, let's go to the Komain event. Let's start

997
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: with Rose Nama Yunis, who defeated I would call a

998
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 2: very game Jeong Wi Lee to retain her strawweight title. Now,

999
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: like Covington, let's start the conversation gear does Jiang way Lee?

1000
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: Does she have a case that she won that fight.

1001
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 1: Luke, She not only has a case. I think she

1002
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: won the fight upon second watch. Remember when you and

1003
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: I were watching it live and we saw a bunch

1004
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: of those reporters who had their tweets put on the

1005
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: screen at the end of round three and it's like

1006
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: three nothing way Lee, And in the moment, I'm like

1007
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: they watched in the same fight I'm watching. Turns out, Luke,

1008
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: you know I wasn't taking notes. I was living it

1009
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: up with you. Here's the deal. This is one of

1010
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: those where if you just watched it without scoring the

1011
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: way that Rose finished this fight so strong, fifth round,

1012
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: complete dominance, top position. She owned Waylee. No, you're not

1013
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: not a ton of ground and pounds, but but she

1014
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 1: owned way Lee. You would go, Okay, great fight, close,

1015
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: Rose won it, but we score it round by round

1016
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 1: and scoring it round by round for real this time, Luke,

1017
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 1: I had Wayley up three to nothing at that point.

1018
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: I thought Rose was in the fight obviously, as they

1019
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: were some very close rounds. John Annick indicated on the

1020
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: air he thought number two was the swing round. I

1021
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: think number three was the real swing round where it

1022
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: really wasn't until the end of that third round where

1023
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: I edged it to way Lee. Either way, these are

1024
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: two all time greats right here. This was a very

1025
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: good rematch. It went the five rounds like the second

1026
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: Rose you want to fight, only unlike that one. As

1027
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: much as I love what Rose did, I love her poise,

1028
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: I love her adjustments. I love getting to hear the

1029
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: broadcast and hearing how her corner knows her so well

1030
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: they know how to calm her down and trying to

1031
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: make her laugh because look when she's walking out to

1032
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm the best, I'm the best. I mean that shit

1033
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: gets me fired up. Because Rose wears her life, her emotions,

1034
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: her journey on her sleeve. The fact that she's this

1035
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: badass and a champion still has to kind of talk

1036
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: herself into being that it's relatable. All that aside, though,

1037
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: I think what I saw the first time I watched

1038
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: it was Rose more efficient in terms of the striking

1039
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: on the inside, where Wayley was loading up, throwing more

1040
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: looping ones. I didn't think Rose did enough upon second watch,

1041
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: though in those first three rounds, Wayley landed the bigger shots.

1042
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: She had the key takedowns. I liked Rose's adjustment in

1043
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: round four, and certainly in round five was dominated. Not

1044
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: a ten eight, but Rose dominated that one to leave

1045
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: no doubt three rounds to two, Jongway Lee, let's do

1046
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: a trilogy. Look, that's what I ended with.

1047
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, I'll say this. I was looking

1048
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 2: up MMA decisions. For folks who don't know, you can

1049
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: go to mmadecisions dot com and they look at media

1050
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: scores how the judges scored everything round by round, so

1051
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: you can get a look and sort of see what

1052
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: the overall folks were thinking. In the case of Usman

1053
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: and Covington, you had virtually every single media score for

1054
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: Usman different ways, some forty nine, forty six, some forty eight,

1055
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: forty seven, whatever, and then just one for Covington two

1056
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: had it a draw, right, so pretty overwhelming in that

1057
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 2: case that they thought Kamar Usman onon. You go to Rose,

1058
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: nama Unis and Jong Way Lee, the game changes completely.

1059
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: First of all, I think you had what a split decision, right,

1060
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: So there's number one. It made it more close now

1061
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: you had more people picking Rose nom a unis. I'd

1062
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 2: say two to one. But John Pollock, Mma, Junkie, Ryan Frederick,

1063
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 2: shirt Dog, Cage Side Press, Sean Sheehan, who I think

1064
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 2: is by the way, great judge, sort of unofficially right,

1065
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: he added forty nine forty six for Jong Wi Lee.

1066
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: He had it not even close for her. Yeah, I

1067
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: think she actually has a pretty good case. BC. I

1068
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: actually wouldn't mind if they ran this one back again.

1069
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 2: I don't know what the appetite is. It'd be weird

1070
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: to make Rose fight two pairs of fights where it

1071
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: was the same fighter for two, you know, back to back,

1072
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: then back to back, and then back to back to back.

1073
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: That would be really weird, almost without precedent. So I

1074
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 2: don't know that they can do that. But BC, I

1075
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: will tell you that Jong Wi Lee is very much

1076
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: the worthy adversary of Rose nomin units. I don't think

1077
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: it's hard to make a case for her. I thought

1078
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: that her top control didn't have enough firm control in

1079
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: terms of keeping Rose flat or maintaining the position from

1080
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: the back. There wasn't enough ground and pound. She was

1081
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: kind of wild and frenetic, which we did talk about

1082
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: on Saturday Night. But dude, like that was if you

1083
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: picked Rose to win, Like, if that's the way you

1084
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: normally scored it, I wouldn't argue too much with it,

1085
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: but I would very much caution not so much like

1086
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: the main event this was. This one was a coin

1087
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 2: flip at worst.

1088
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 3: It really was.

1089
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta give Waye so much credit to

1090
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 1: make the adjustment she did from a headkick first round

1091
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: KO in that fight, and to your point, coming off

1092
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: the sustained damage and the long layoff from the YO

1093
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: wanna win to be able to round out elements of

1094
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: her game. I mean, look, she is a great young Wayleey,

1095
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: a great fighter, and I know she's not getting any younger.

1096
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: She's what thirty two, thirty three. I think we will

1097
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: see this fight again, Luke. I think this is one

1098
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: of those losses, but a win for Waylee where yeah,

1099
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: she's gonna have to circle back, She's gonna have to

1100
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: beat some some top contenders. Bring on Carlos SPARZANXT for Rose.

1101
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: And I do agree with something I've said consistently that

1102
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: you know when Rose is at her best and she

1103
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: was pretty pretty damn near close to it in this one.

1104
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: You know, she may be the best women's strawweight fighter

1105
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. I mean, she's got two wins over Yoanna,

1106
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: two wins now over way Lee, and one over Jessica

1107
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: and Drage, so she's you know, all she has to

1108
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: do now is she goes beats Carla Sparza, who is

1109
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: the inaugural champion and who beat her for the belt.

1110
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: The resume is sick, and I love to see Rose

1111
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: get to this point because the fun in the Rose

1112
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: journey was she's had dramatic lows along with the dramatic eyes.

1113
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, Wayley's going to be back here, Luke,

1114
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna be I don't know where

1115
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: yo Wanna fits in this. I don't think UFC is

1116
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: going to just give her, uh, you know, the title fight.

1117
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to offer her way Lee.

1118
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: I wonder if they're gonna say, Okay, you wanna you

1119
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: wanta make big money, we got one more for You're

1120
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: not gonna get a free title shot here despite your name,

1121
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: do the way Lee fight a second time? And Luke, uh,

1122
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 1: this version of way Lee's gonna beat Yanna the second

1123
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:38,479
Speaker 1: time a lot.

1124
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: Easier, you mean the third time?

1125
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: What do you mean that the second time? Way Lee

1126
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: beat Joanna the second time?

1127
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry, sorry? Yes, yes, yes, what am I saying? Yes? Absolutely? Yeah,

1128
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: that time it might be quite different. She seemed to

1129
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: be quite fresh. I will say though, that one thing

1130
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 2: you were asking from Kumaru that you didn't get that

1131
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: you did get from Rose was a bit of a

1132
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: fifth round push. You just look at their number. They

1133
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: tell the story. You had Rose getting a takedown with

1134
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 2: nearly four minutes of control time and then limiting Jong

1135
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: Way Lee to her least amount of output in any

1136
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: of the rounds, just eight total significant strikes there that landed.

1137
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: That was a great job to you know, seal it right,

1138
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 2: leave no doubt by the time the fifth round what happened.

1139
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: Obviously you know the judging doesn't quite work that way,

1140
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, like really put a

1141
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: stamp on the fight as it ends. So I thought

1142
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: she did a great job with that. But dude, that's

1143
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: that they are. They are neck and neck one A

1144
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: and one B, and honestly, if they thought another night

1145
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: that could have easily had a situation where Rose loses.

1146
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 2: So I would like to see, like you, Jeong Wi Lee,

1147
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: get one more maybe uh, and then get right back

1148
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: in it, because Rose does need a fresh opponent. But

1149
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: they can't look past what they saw here. The contenders

1150
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: came to fight on Saturday night in New York City,

1151
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: and Jeong Wi Lee chief among them.

1152
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: Luke, Carlos Bars has been on such a nice run.

1153
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: You do you see a close and competitive fight here

1154
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: with Rose, because that feels like that's gotta be.

1155
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: Next, probably, I think so. I think she's earned it.

1156
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: It's a different Carla. You know. Rose is probably much

1157
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: better than Carla in certain ways. But dude, Carla's wrestling

1158
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: is good, her top control, it's good. Like Colin Oyama.

1159
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: Her longtime trainer is a fucking major talent that just

1160
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 2: no one talks about, which just blows my mind. Yeah, man,

1161
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: like she's a live dog. I would favor Rose to win, Yes,

1162
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 2: I would. But do I think that's like a foregone conclusion?

1163
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: People think, because Carla versus Rose isn't as exciting to

1164
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: some as some other ones, that Carla has no chance. No, dude,

1165
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: she's not number one contender again by accident. Actually She's

1166
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: a live dog as far as I'm concerned. I like

1167
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: that fight. Yeah, all right.

1168
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: I like the story in that fight, though, I do.

1169
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: It's a great.

1170
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 2: Fight to make. It tells you about the how fortunes

1171
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: change in MMA, how divisions develop, And it was really

1172
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 2: the right call for the UFC to bring the I

1173
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: went up. Basically they strip Mined and Victa to get

1174
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 2: it up, and it was the right call for them.

1175
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: And that division has thrived. But some of the same

1176
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 2: power players they find themselves in unique positions even years later.

1177
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to number four on the list

1178
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: here BC. Justin Gaichie and Michael Chandler opened the pay

1179
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: per view main card in New York City and what

1180
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: a fight it was. But the question I have for

1181
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 2: UBC is, first, did Justin Geichie do enough for you

1182
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: either in this fight or however you measure it to

1183
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: be the next one to contend for a title for

1184
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: the winner versus Potier versus Oliver. Yeah?

1185
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: We yeah, one hundred percent, Luke. I mean, good god.

1186
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: He went in there against as elite and dangerous a

1187
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: foe as you can face in this stack division in

1188
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: Michael Chandler. Who I mean he he was all fricking

1189
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: in every second of this fight, Chandler trying to win it,

1190
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, to his own detriment at times. Yet the

1191
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: fact that this went the distance is insane. Luke. This

1192
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: first round is what did Jim Croche say, If I

1193
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: could put time in a bottle, if I mean I

1194
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: want to feel like I felt during this first round

1195
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: all the time, Luke, I mean I would be walk

1196
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: I would be a walking orgasm. Luke, I envy. I

1197
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: envy those I think I saw Laura Teiko trying on

1198
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: some interview maybe with Sumission Radio, trying to describe what

1199
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: it was like in that building, and people were just

1200
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: going sick. I envy those who got to sit ringside

1201
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: in MSG for this theater, as they say, our friend

1202
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: Brandon Wise's CBS Sports was able to sit up close

1203
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: and just drink it. What a fucking performance, Luke, of

1204
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: just manliness and danger and testosterone, and you know, bde

1205
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: from both of them. But the lean that I had

1206
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: in trying to handicap this proved true. It's that Justin

1207
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: Gatchee's durability won out against a guy who was all

1208
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: in on his own danger and brought it. But those

1209
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: short left hooks from Gai Chee, those impossibly painful leg

1210
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: strikes that he lands with such power from close range,

1211
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 1: they were the key. He's there, Lukey. You may have

1212
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: seen the Justin of old come out because he had

1213
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: to in this fight, But that reform Justin's still there

1214
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: under coach Trevor Whitman, and he damn right deserves the

1215
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: next title shot. In fact, I dare you to tell

1216
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: me somebody who could deserve it over him, And I

1217
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: dare you to find somebody who could rewatch his title

1218
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: shot against Habib and not understand how fricking close he

1219
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: was to put in the champ in peril.

1220
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: Luke closer, not very, not very as the answer. Also,

1221
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: it just goes to show Chandler couldn't get Gaegee down

1222
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: at all and Habib did it with ease. Kind of

1223
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: tells you the levels of ability there. Because Chandler is

1224
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: a phenomenal wrestler, so was Justin Gai Chee. And Gai

1225
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: Chee got thrashed on the mat by Habib. I will

1226
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 2: say that, why let me ask you this way, why

1227
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: doesn't Islam Makhachev deserve the next shot? What has he

1228
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: not done?

1229
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean Islam's the right answer to my question of

1230
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: tell me who deserves Okay, obviously is Amahachev's on that run.

1231
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: Getche's beat better quality competition, and his only loss in

1232
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: this stretches to the greatest lightweight of all time, and

1233
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: he was in that to a certain degree. And then

1234
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: he went in and against the most dangerous guy they

1235
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: could give him, and he beat him. I kind of

1236
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: think Islam Akhichev needs one more luke.

1237
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: You know what, I don't think it's about you know,

1238
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: after Islam won at UFC two sixty seven, I was

1239
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: kind of like, well, this is the guy because he

1240
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 2: just I mean, he just walked past Hooker. But then

1241
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: you think about it, It's like, dude, beating Hooker is legit,

1242
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: especially in the way that he beat Hooker right, like

1243
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: barely breaking a sweat, you know. But at the same time,

1244
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: it's like, is beating Hooker as good as Hooker is

1245
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: and as much as we respect him, is that sufficient

1246
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: for a lightweight title shot? Probably not right, And that's

1247
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: maybe his highest profile win that Makhachev has. I think

1248
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think maybe I might be

1249
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: flip flopping here. To me, I'll say this the case

1250
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: for like Gaichi being like, oh oh, obviously he's the

1251
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 2: guy got I tell you, like, I'm not amazed by that.

1252
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: But given that his only loss up to this point,

1253
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: well you know, more recent loss anyway is against Habib,

1254
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: and then he rebounded against another guy in Chandler. That's

1255
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: just a tougher road than what Islam has done. But

1256
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: I agree, if Islam gets one more, you can't deny

1257
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: him at that point.

1258
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: And I'm really banking on the three most recent I'm

1259
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: not counting the Cowboys run. I'm talking of the three

1260
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: most recent big wins for Gaichie, the knockout of It's

1261
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: in Barbosa, the vacant title or interim tite whatever title

1262
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: win over Tony Ferguson, who at that point, you know,

1263
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: still still held a large level of credibility in danger.

1264
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: And now this against Chandler, that trump's the winning streak

1265
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: of Islam Mahachev at this point. Look, it does?

1266
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 5: It?

1267
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: Does? It does? All right? Let me ask you about

1268
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: Michael Chandler for just a second, if I can.

1269
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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: He came to the UFC at age thirty four. He

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Speaker 2: was very clear he's coming to test himself. He's not

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01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 2: coming here to pat a resume. He doesn't care about

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01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: protecting his record. He obviously is trying to win, but

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01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: he's gonna take on tough challenges and you got to

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01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: give him exactly that. He fought Dan Hooker, he fought

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01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: Charles Olivera, and now Justin Gatchie do he ain't fighting chumps.

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01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: He's out there fighting good guys. But he has gone

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01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: one and two. Of course, you see the mitigating circumstances

1279
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: is he came within a hair's breath of beating Charles Olavera,

1280
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Speaker 2: and even in this fight, he was pretty competitive and

1281
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: had Justin Gatchie rocked several times he was in these fights.

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01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 2: But the number say, one win, two losses in three fights.

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01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: How do you evaluate to this point the first three

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Speaker 2: fight stretch of Michael Chandler's UFC run.

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Speaker 1: Well, he lived. He didn't do anything differently than he

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01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: told us he would. To your point, you know the

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01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: great line of here for a good time, not a

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01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: long time. I asked you this question during our reaction show,

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01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's a poignant one in hindsight now

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01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: and hindsight, it's tough to say because Chandler going all

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01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: in basically every second of his UFC career so far,

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Speaker 1: including accepting that last minute, you know, weighing in as

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01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: a replacement in Abu Dhabi, accepting, like, you know, everything

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01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: he's done since coming to the UFC, it's been about

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01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: being all in in the moment, and while by being

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01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: in the moment, he literally came that close to winning

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01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: the UFC Lightweight Championship against against against OLIVERA. I mean

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01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: it was he had two moments in that fight where

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01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: you're just like, holy shit, he's gonna win the championship.

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01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: He didn't do it. He had big moments in this

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01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: Gaatesye fight he lost. He was consistent to what he said,

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01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: So I give him that credit. And by doing that,

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01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 1: you better believe he's gotta be beloved by Dana White

1304
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: right now. These are this is the exact type of attitude, swagger,

1305
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: performance company man, always in shape, always ready to I mean,

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what the UFC wants that. But was

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01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: that his best opportunity to maximize the time that he

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01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: has here and the opportunities that he has here. I

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: don't know, Luke, because he's been all in every single

1310
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: second on just rolling the dice in danger. Could he

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01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: have won this fight, which you got to argue if

1312
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: he if he had won this fight, would he have

1313
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: slipped past Islam Mahachev for the title opportunity? What do

1314
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 1: you have had to face Islam? You know, you know,

1315
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: you don't know what's gonna happen next. Could he have

1316
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: done it? Would he have done it if he was

1317
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more controlled and set up. I don't

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01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: see him taking down Gates yet will and having big

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01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: moments in top position. I don't know what I can't

1320
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: figure out right now. Luke is if by by by

1321
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: gambling like he has, did that elevate what he has

1322
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: left to the highest point it could be? Or did

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01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: it take away a little bit from it?

1324
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: The more I think it took a bit, but it's okay. Actually,

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01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: I mean, here's what I would say. He came here

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01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: to test himself, and he's been tested, and what I

1327
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 2: have seen is someone who is thoroughly deserving of being

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01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: in the top five of the best in the entire

1329
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: weight class in the world, independent of organization, no doubt

1330
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: about it. And I would also say BC on Michael

1331
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: Chandler's best day, he's the best when he is at

1332
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: his very best he has an opportunity to beat anyone

1333
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 2: else in that weight class, and I really truly believe

1334
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: that that dude is a fucking hammer who always comes

1335
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 2: in shape. But more often than not, what he has

1336
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: shown is he is not the best lightweight on Earth.

1337
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 2: He can be that on the right day, on just

1338
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: the right night, he does have that in him, but

1339
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: time over time, he's not going to be that guy.

1340
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: And so you have this creeping realization that he can't

1341
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: claim to be the best lightweight on Earth. Yet the

1342
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: same time, he is entirely worthy of the respect of

1343
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 2: his very elite peers. He beats some of them, he

1344
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 2: puts the other one through their paces. To me, he's

1345
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: a top five lightweight who's all action, who is capable

1346
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: of beating better guys than him on the right night.

1347
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 2: And that's it. That's how I violate Michael Chandler. What's

1348
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: wrong with that?

1349
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean,

1350
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: it's somebody taking their opportunity and given everything they had

1351
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: to it and going for it. I can respect that.

1352
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, the more I really think about it,

1353
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if he would have, if he would not,

1354
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: if he would have come up short, if he would

1355
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: have fought a little bit more strategically, if he would

1356
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: have found out that he's very good, but he's not

1357
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: on the same level as those guys. By being that

1358
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: dangerous and gambling and going for it, it may have

1359
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: elevated his game, Luke, I'm starting to believe that, and

1360
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: it is what it is at that point.

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01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe Nevertheless, it will be tremendous to see what

1362
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: happens next with them, all right, BC, last, but not

1363
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 2: least in the rundown, let's get to it number five.

1364
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: But tricky Pittbull. By the way, you're asking, what about Frankie?

1365
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: What about all these guys? Check them out on MK

1366
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 2: extra credit. We're going to talk about Alex Pareeda, Frankie, Edgar,

1367
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,959
Speaker 2: a lot, Edmund Schabazian, a lot of stuff on there.

1368
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: The new Conna McGregor, Luke, the new Condom McGregor.

1369
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 2: Who we're talking about Ian Gary, Oh Ian Gary might

1370
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: get to him as well. Nice Connor McGregor.

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01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: You mean, all right, I'm I'm trying to sell your show, Luke.

1372
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sell it to the masses, you know.

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01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you. All Right, Patricky Pitbull

1374
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 2: is your new bellet or lightweight champion BC. He looked

1375
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: great against Peter Quilly. Again, that Irish crowd absolutely phenomenal.

1376
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: They did they they? I mean that was one of

1377
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 2: the best walkouts I've seen for beltor ever period and

1378
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: one of the better ones at MMA you'll find all right.

1379
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: But the question is not about the how great the

1380
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: evening was or the Irish crowd itself. The question is

1381
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: about Patricky. He looked phenomenal in this win, no doubt

1382
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: about it. He earned it cleanly, stopped the guy with strikes,

1383
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But is he a transitional figure

1384
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 2: or is he going to dominate this weight class for

1385
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: some time?

1386
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: Sadly for him, he's He's most likely going to be

1387
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: a transitional champion. But it's not It's not about that

1388
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: or that being a negative, because what Patricky Pipple has

1389
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: done is he's had a great career and it's been

1390
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: largely under the bellatour banner. He's been part of the fabric,

1391
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: like his brother, like Michael Chandler before them, in terms

1392
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: of you know, who's the face of this promotion not

1393
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: only all time, but but you know, the past ten

1394
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: years it's Patricky Pitbull. He's thirty five now, He's come

1395
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: up jus the Bridesmaid so many times, and the waters

1396
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: parted perfectly to open up for this opportunity. His brother

1397
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: gave up the title. He had a guy in front

1398
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: of him in a rematch who he's better than. I

1399
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: thought he was better than the first fight. But Kueley,

1400
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: to his credit, was able to force that stoppage. But

1401
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: we saw what we needed to see here. I think

1402
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: Queally just stayed in the pocket a little bit too long.

1403
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was trying to, you know,

1404
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: gas pit Bull over time. But when Patricky found that opening,

1405
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: that's what the pit Bull brothers do. They land powerful

1406
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: shots that right cross that hurt. Kuelely was beautiful. The

1407
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: left hand to get him again and finish him off

1408
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: quickly on the ground. It was a great moment for him,

1409
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: and you got to again tip your cap to Patricio

1410
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: Pitpull for opening this up to his brother there. But

1411
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: you've mentioned the name Usman Normagha medoff as a guy

1412
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: who's coming. The cousin of Habi Unbeaten looked great so

1413
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: far in Bellator. I'm saying, hey, aj McKee just beat

1414
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: Patricio Pippule at what thirty forty five? He'll be out

1415
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: fifty five when he wants to fighting for that belt. Yes,

1416
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: this feels transitional, but what a moment for Patricky who

1417
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: didn't really I know, he climbed the cage, but he

1418
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: didn't go ape shit and be like yeah, I worked

1419
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 1: for this my whole life. He sort of just took

1420
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: it in like yeah, and what a night in that arena.

1421
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 2: He he was effusive in the post fight interview. He

1422
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: was he was big, and everybody up.

1423
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: Then what I mean, you, I don't think we can

1424
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: undersell that walkout, what that crowd is like. I think

1425
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: it was you who tweeted or told me like, you know,

1426
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: if Beltre can only get an Irish star and you

1427
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: know they tried with James Gallaher who lost in this

1428
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: comain event and a big step up opportunity. But that

1429
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: crowd is, Oh man, that crowd's great. That zombie walk

1430
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: out with the crowd singing it, I mean it looks

1431
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: like Chris Jericho at an AEW match with the crowd

1432
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: singing his I mean, it was just special. And then

1433
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: Patricky on the road just shuts them all the hell up.

1434
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: It's a big win, a big performance, but no, look,

1435
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't expect him to defend the title even once.

1436
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, I'll say this. I mean, patriarchy between he

1437
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 2: and his brother has been something of the forgotten one

1438
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: because he had some bad losses like Michael Chandler shut

1439
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 2: his lights out in the worst way possible, right, I

1440
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: mean a vicious ko and he's had some other losses

1441
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: along the way too, and so it took his brother

1442
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: essentially abandoning this post for him to move into it.

1443
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: But you know, let's not tell you this much. He

1444
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 2: has been a Bellator staple for a long time. He

1445
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: is consistently one of the better lightweights in their division.

1446
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 2: He waited his turn and he got it, and he

1447
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: is the deserving champion, and about that there can simply

1448
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: be no debate. Peter Cleley had two chances to take

1449
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: it from him, not the belt, but you know, the win,

1450
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 2: and he couldn't do it. He couldn't do it. He

1451
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 2: couldn't do it, even in his hometown. So he's the

1452
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 2: deserving champion. But dude, I mean listening, you just got

1453
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: to call it like it is. All of these promotions,

1454
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 2: including Belatour are signing all these guys from the smesh factory.

1455
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 2: If you've not been watching Bellator and you've not been

1456
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: seeing what Uspin Nimergamydov is doing, O, you are about

1457
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 2: to have a rude awakening Uspin Nimbergamdov. And your point

1458
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: is Aj McKee might go up there and take it

1459
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 2: too like I take that absolutely seriously. He's you know,

1460
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,600
Speaker 2: we'll see if you change the way class to go

1461
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: do it. But I agree if he goes up there,

1462
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: he is as ready for that title is just about

1463
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 2: anybody you can name. But to me, Usbin nimer Gamdov

1464
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: is better than Petricky everywhere, and not by a little bit,

1465
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: but by a lot. I think it is inevitable that

1466
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 2: Uspinnimergamdov wears that title, and probably sooner rather than later.

1467
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: So is as good of a win as this was

1468
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: for Petricky, as improved as he is, as nice as

1469
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: it is to see someone who gave their career to

1470
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: Bellator get opportunities from Bellator to be in the spotlight

1471
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 2: and to shine. I'm happy with all of it. But

1472
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: you know, if you're putting a gun to my head

1473
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 2: and asking me who's gonna be the champion in one

1474
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: year's time. We did this show in one year from today,

1475
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: it's Uspin Nimbergamdov with a bullet and it's not even

1476
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: it's not very hard to call that. But sometimes we

1477
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 2: see I go on like you know, sports radio shows,

1478
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 2: and they'll be like, oh, who's the next big guy

1479
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: coming up that we should pay attention to? And I'll

1480
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: name someone and they'll be like, well, that's the show

1481
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 2: esoteric name. Only you could have picked it out. I'm like, dude, no,

1482
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 2: when you see these guys coming, it's not hard to

1483
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: identify who sticks out from the pack. Usbinn Erriga Madoff

1484
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 2: can strike, he can wrestle, he's got submissions, he's smart,

1485
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: he doesn't get hit, he's young, he's athletic. That dude

1486
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: is about to beat some people up on ways. Yeah,

1487
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: I think capturing and retaining that belt.

1488
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: And when I say a perfect storm, this is a

1489
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,839
Speaker 1: a reshuffling of the deck in this division for Bellator.

1490
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: It's not particularly deep at the moment. There's some retreading,

1491
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: old names getting cycled out. So it was the perfect

1492
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: moment for Petrichy. But look, what do you make of

1493
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 1: the captain? And I'm trying to start shift. He had

1494
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: a decision to make Eric Alburassin, who was brought into

1495
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 1: Jung Way Lee's camp for the Rose fight. He chose

1496
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: being in Wayley's corner at MSG instead of being in

1497
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: Patriarchy's for his title fight. That's a tough decision to.

1498
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 2: Make, Luke, that is a tough decision to make. But candidly,

1499
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 2: I think Jong Why Lee had a bigger responsibility and

1500
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 2: difficult challenge relative to what Patricky had. I don't mean

1501
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 2: to say Peter Greeley is some chump. I don't. I

1502
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: don't think that he is, But you know, Patricky relative

1503
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: to what he Patricky, you know, had done well enough

1504
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 2: the first time. Obviously, he got hit a little bit

1505
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: too much with those elbows and got cut open, so

1506
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: that was the issue. But you know, in general, you

1507
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 2: could have a strong degree of confidence that Patricky could

1508
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: win that without everyone necessarily being there. I don't think

1509
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: that's crazy to say. Comparatively, I think Jong Wi Lee

1510
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 2: would have needed every bit of help against someone as

1511
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 2: decorated and accomplished as Rose. And sure enough they made

1512
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: the right call even if they didn't necessarily get their

1513
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 2: hand raised. But yeah, great night, a great weekend, of

1514
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 2: fights and if I have you missed something and we

1515
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: didn't get to it, check us out on MK extra credit.

1516
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 2: We'll get to it there. OKAYBC, we have now asked

1517
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: each other questions, but it's time for the audience to

1518
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 2: ask us questions. It's time for dms from the Diggity Dogs.

1519
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 2: Bump bump bump we we we he haw he haw.

1520
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: All right, we see from underscore. Excuse me at Kieran

1521
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: Underscore Edwards two with an absolutely outstanding weekend of fights,

1522
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,799
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, what was your each of us your moments

1523
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: of the weekend? What do you say?

1524
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask answer that professionally and in terms

1525
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: of you know, fight fandom. You asked me because we

1526
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: had a great what a week for MK? And you

1527
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: asked me at the airport late last night. You know

1528
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: what was the most fun thing we did? What was

1529
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: the best thing we did? I gotta say, Luke, you

1530
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 1: and I the post Canelo Wayan show. And this doesn't

1531
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: really answer this question, but you get my point here.

1532
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1533
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: Sitting down with NBA great Paul Pierce and doing a

1534
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: twenty six minute reaction to the wagh In interview on

1535
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: Paul's life and career. Look, that was some fun she

1536
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 1: had in a week in which we did tons of

1537
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: fun she had, including thanks to our good friend Andreas

1538
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: Hale for joining us in the MGM lobby for the

1539
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:02,839
Speaker 1: resident for the uh pregame preview. It was fun. Welcome

1540
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: to the showtime extended family. Paul Pierce. We hope to

1541
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: get to mix it up with him. He legitimately knows boxing.

1542
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: He's been to so many fights at ringside, So for

1543
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: us professionally, that was it. As a fight fan. The

1544
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: best moment of the weekend, Luke, was Round one of

1545
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: Gaegee and Chandler. I mean that that's one of I

1546
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: mean you had, you had Teddy atlas on with what

1547
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: was it? Was it Jose Young's afterwards an anime fighting

1548
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,919
Speaker 1: at MSG saying I feel like I was in Manila.

1549
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: I feel like it was Ali and Fraser. Okay, slow

1550
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: your role here, Teddy. Yet with that hyperbole he said,

1551
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,560
Speaker 1: that was some special shit. Luke, that's why we do this.

1552
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 1: That's why we that's why we That's why we do

1553
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 1: this shit, Luke. Okay, that's why we put up with

1554
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: all those those UFC Fight Night cards on FS one

1555
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: that don't start till ten pm Eastern and there's six

1556
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,919
Speaker 1: fights on him for moments like this, Luke, Okay.

1557
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, no, bitch, Yes, I'm going to

1558
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: say favorite moment. Honestly, it was the first time Caleb

1559
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: Plant touched the canvas because I was I was waiting

1560
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 2: for it. I was waiting for it. I was waiting

1561
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: for it.

1562
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 5: I know.

1563
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 2: Anytime we answer like in the affirmative of something related

1564
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 2: to showtime over MMA, our fans think that we're like

1565
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 2: doing that, you know, inorganically, like we're doing it, you know,

1566
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: Stockholm syndrome wise, But honestly, no, dude, Canelo was such

1567
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 2: a special fighter. Canelo, even though I took a big

1568
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: boxing break, he was one of the fighters I covered

1569
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 2: years and years ago, b see and I met as

1570
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, at Canelo versus Mayweather. So that's

1571
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: one of the few guys I could say that's been

1572
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: a consistent thread even as I was an MMA fan,

1573
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: an MMA editor, unable to really sing my teeth into boxing,

1574
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 2: and just to finally watch him get Plant to put

1575
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 2: his hand his gloves on the mat was yeah, I was.

1576
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 2: I was blown away right at first, so quite quite

1577
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: quite cool to see that.

1578
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, look, I'm our credential that you and I

1579
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: got for covering this fight. They had a picture, they

1580
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: put a picture. They used the picture that I took

1581
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen at Mayweather Canelo.

1582
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: As my Yes, same for me, same nice.

1583
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: Can we zoom in here? Team? Look at this? Look

1584
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:11,560
Speaker 1: at this good? Look at this?

1585
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 2: Back it up, just back it up a little bit.

1586
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: Back it up a little bit, back it up a

1587
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 2: little bit.

1588
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: Look at this thirty I was thirty five then, Luke,

1589
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: I looked like I was about fifteen.

1590
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: Right, you look like someone who's into uh, choking people

1591
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 2: for erotic pleasures.

1592
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: You're you're you had no gray back then, Luke, I know.

1593
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: I mean, can you believe how I've gone? I've gone

1594
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: gray like it's a contest. You know.

1595
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 1: They sell things that you can put in your hair,

1596
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: like black shoe polish.

1597
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to copy the wonderful president you've

1598
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: set by taking permanent marker and does all right? Uh,

1599
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 2: let's see from Nalaka. Since Danas anything, Susmin's on track

1600
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: to becoming the goat, what are his next career moves

1601
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 2: to actually enter the goat convert station? Also, b C,

1602
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: what if is he loses the title. I don't know

1603
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 2: that he will, but let's say that he does. That

1604
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 2: could change Usman's equation about going up to twenty five.

1605
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: From what you've seen from Usman. Do you think, regardless

1606
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: of who holds the title, that he's a threat to

1607
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: win the Middleway title should he decide to move up? Yes, okay, okay, okay.

1608
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 2: A threat not by no means a foregone conclusion, but

1609
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: a threat.

1610
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 1: Who would you like to see him defend the UFC

1611
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: Walter White title against in the next eighteen.

1612
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 2: Months, Kumaru, I would say, I'm not that high on

1613
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 2: Leon's chances. Frankly, I know some folks your mileage may vary,

1614
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 2: but that's probably the right thing to do. So I'd say, Leon,

1615
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 2: let me pull up the rankings here.

1616
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, Hamza, we're gonna We're all gonna say that.

1617
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: I was surprised, Lou the next eighteen months, Yeah, maybe

1618
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: I was genuinely surprised that Dana is shooting this down.

1619
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: In fact, he was kind of making fun of media

1620
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: members who had said that.

1621
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: Luke. Yeah, so I probably go I probably go edwards,

1622
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 2: Luke zop something like that.

1623
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: You don't see somebody in that top fifteen, like a

1624
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: Sean Brady or Muslim Solikov making some kind of run here.

1625
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 2: I do like Sean Brady a lot. He's a fucking

1626
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: amazing fighter, but he's sitting at fourteen. He's got work

1627
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 2: to do, right. It's not saying he couldn't be that,

1628
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: but he's got some work to do before we can

1629
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 2: declare that. You know he's gonna be fighting for a title.

1630
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: Wonder Joy Burns might.

1631
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: Get a rematch.

1632
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: That could be interesting, right, what about wonder Boy or

1633
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: Michael Kay So they haven't fought him, they could slide in.

1634
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: I don't kiesa to me dark horse candidate, but possible

1635
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: wonder Boy, no chance, he just lost his last one.

1636
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: I think they're just gonna wait him out. He's not

1637
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 2: gonna he's not gonna get back there.

1638
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: Are you trying to call him an old bitch?

1639
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:46,480
Speaker 2: Luke? No, that's you being disrespectful. That's me being reasonable,

1640
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: all right? From at Philly Underscore Dent. Do you think

1641
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 2: we're about to see Colby drop his stick, either completely

1642
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: or to a lesser degree, after showing Oosman some respect

1643
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 2: after the fight? Fuck? No, what are people talking about?

1644
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: I don't unders the like, Oh he's he gonna have

1645
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 2: to change his stick. Okay, he took the fucking Maide

1646
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 2: in America or whatever the fuck it is, maga hat off.

1647
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: But he's still doing the same nerds and virgin shit

1648
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 2: he always did. And by the way, b see, as

1649
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: we indicated, it appears to be at least on some

1650
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: level working.

1651
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. And you know he's also leaning heavy

1652
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 1: into the first responders military, which he has in the past.

1653
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: But if he did like again with some subtle nuances

1654
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: in this he can still be effusive, as you say,

1655
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: to the right in the right situation, but against the

1656
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: right opponents bring in more cheers. It's gonna have to

1657
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: be a subtle you know, heel to face turn and

1658
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: you can be an aggressive face under pro wrestling terms,

1659
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: you could be a stone cold Steve Austin. You can

1660
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: act like a badass but still get the cheers. I

1661
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,879
Speaker 1: wonder if Cole do you, Lucas, would you be surprised

1662
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: if a year from now Colby is getting more more

1663
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:58,879
Speaker 1: cheers than Booze in every situation?

1664
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: No, it would not be surprised at all. Okay, okay,

1665
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 2: are what he does is completely odious and awful and

1666
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,839
Speaker 2: that people who cheerly that are fucking deranged. But aside

1667
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 2: from that, do I think it will work with the

1668
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,639
Speaker 2: existing fan base, or at least I should say portions

1669
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: of it? Yeah, I think it will.

1670
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: Besides, let's say, who's band hangs on to the belt?

1671
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: Who do you want Colby to fight? Do you think

1672
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,560
Speaker 1: he goes out of his weight class to try to

1673
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: set up some grudge match pay per views?

1674
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 2: I would like to see two tough fights for him,

1675
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 2: two tough ones, right, two times he gets pushed a

1676
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 2: little bit jorgey Mas. It all seems like that's a

1677
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 2: grudge match you could make some money on. And Jorge

1678
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 2: probably knows his game to a degree, and so that one,

1679
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 2: and then after that, I think the Gilbert Burns fight. Dude,

1680
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 2: Gilbert Burns, he might have something to say about Colby

1681
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: being number two in that division. You know, maybe Kamar,

1682
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 2: who's just the guy and none of none of his

1683
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 2: contemporaries can do anything about that. But Gilbert Burns versus Colby,

1684
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 2: that one is interesting because Burns a submission threat, is

1685
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 2: wrestling abilit his striking ability overall, his his great gas tank.

1686
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 2: That dude, he's a fucking tough customer man. So I

1687
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 2: like that fight. I like that fight a lot.

1688
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: What about Colby versus Nate?

1689
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 2: Who wants to see naked beat up that bad?

1690
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't want that. I don't want that ship.

1691
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 2: This is nothing interesting, all right? From at Abu underscore,

1692
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:23,839
Speaker 2: Sasha underscore Camilla.

1693
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 1: That's our guy. That's that's our guy. That's our guy. Leo, Yeah, Lee,

1694
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: that's our guy.

1695
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 2: Lee from Chandler was a beast in that loss. Where

1696
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 2: does his rank excuse to be? Where does this rank

1697
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 2: in a list of all time losses that might have

1698
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 2: increased to fight or stock? Now that's the das special

1699
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 2: right there. What do you think you see?

1700
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's a fair point right there.

1701
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 1: No one's saying anything bad about Chandler that that's what

1702
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: you get when you fight like that and you come

1703
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: so close to beating elites. Look, what's what are some

1704
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: of the the best moral victories in an elite level

1705
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:02,480
Speaker 1: UFC recent history? I mean against against Wayey.

1706
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big one. Nate against Leon Edwards is

1707
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: a big one. You could do. I'm trying to think

1708
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 2: some other ones along the way, or like they were

1709
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 2: just commendable.

1710
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,839
Speaker 1: Losses Romero against Costa.

1711
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: That's a great one. That's a good one for sure. Yeah,

1712
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 2: something like that. I mean it would take me a

1713
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 2: while to sort of go through it all, but yes,

1714
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 2: those are some great choices. Uh. And then, last, but

1715
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 2: not least, we see This one's just for you from

1716
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: mish Bind What happens to the five wheel of death

1717
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: options that we never get to hear each week?

1718
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 1: Wow, you want to see what happens behind the curtain.

1719
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: You want to see that little man turning the wheels here,

1720
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, Luca, there's ten options each week, Luke, it's

1721
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 1: five spins, and you get what you get. Sometimes they

1722
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: get repurposed again, Luke. Sometimes they disappear forever if they

1723
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: were timely in that moment. People don't really want to

1724
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: know how this shit works, do they, Luke?

1725
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 2: Do you actually have questions for every topic or are.

1726
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 1: You trying to to imply that the wheel is rigged?

1727
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 2: This one's iron this like I I don't play if

1728
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 2: this don't get you this one wheel?

1729
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't play video poker. I don't trust those computers, Luke.

1730
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1731
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 2: You don't trust the dominion voting machines.

1732
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: No, I only vote on paper with a p with

1733
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: like a like a yeah, like a pencil, like scantron.

1734
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: Remember those scantron tests we used to have to take it?

1735
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 1: We have, we have phoned in the scantron. Remember that ship, Luke,

1736
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: scan we had.

1737
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: We had a dude. We had a friend who was

1738
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,440
Speaker 2: so good of those tests. We used to call him Scantron.

1739
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. Did he pay for sex like most

1740
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: of your friends, Luke, No.

1741
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 2: He actually one of the few that didn't believe it

1742
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: or not. But I have so many friends who have

1743
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: hired prostitutes. It's unbelievab Well.

1744
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: It's great, Luke, please share that more often. That's great.

1745
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 2: Hey, most of them were active duty millikry when they did,

1746
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: so everyone's like, support the troops. I'm like, even the

1747
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 2: ones that like pay for hookers, even those ones. All

1748
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: right anyway, Uh okay, we see. That's it for us

1749
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,200
Speaker 2: on DMS from Donks. It's now time for your bullshit.

1750
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: We got a good one here.

1751
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: Okay.

1752
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: You know what we do in these parts. We scour

1753
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 1: the globe for the heis and low's, the good and bad,

1754
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: the ugly, the in between, and combat sports.

1755
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,759
Speaker 2: Looking out. I'm looking forward to this edition.

1756
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: By the way we call it. Have you seen the ship?

1757
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Have you seen this motherfucking shit. By the way,

1758
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 2: speaking of shit, I'm about to take one after the ship.

1759
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: Yes, yes you are. Shout out to Gaffney Pierre, a

1760
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: fine producer for compiling all this shit and putting it

1761
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 1: in order for me. You FC two six eight and

1762
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: Nyc Luke, you're gonna get to it on extra credit.

1763
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 1: But let's have a look at it quick. Two division

1764
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: glory champ Alex Padata did not get go Kansaki, Luke.

1765
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 1: He delivered the boom to this. Is that a Polish fella?

1766
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: Mikolitis Greek?

1767
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 2: I believe Greek.

1768
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: Yes, Luke, that's a hell of a finish. No one's

1769
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: talking about it because that card was so amazing, But

1770
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a.

1771
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: Finish and this was the main event of the prelims.

1772
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, Padta doing everything the UFC could have wanted,

1773
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: and then some great debut.

1774
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 1: That's what happens when you train with Glover baby. Okay,

1775
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: another Connecticut guy, pa Data right, I'm compiling a factory time.

1776
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm a a team right now in Connecticut, Luke.

1777
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you are. I have to admit that's pretty fun.

1778
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: All right backstage, Luke real recognizing real, you know this

1779
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: hog is gonna get me fired up. Valentina congratulating Rose

1780
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: on her victory.

1781
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 2: Oh that's great. They're trading partners and friends and just

1782
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 2: two badasses. That's great.

1783
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something what their occasional trading partners is what

1784
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: you're saying, right?

1785
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, not all the time, not all the time,

1786
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 2: but they definitely have traded together.

1787
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 1: Valentina was there with Halle Berry to promote that new

1788
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: movie what's it called, Luke, I don't know.

1789
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 2: This movie sucks ass, is what they Wow.

1790
01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: Wow. Kevin Holland joined the chorus on Twitter, backing up

1791
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: the idea that, uh, that takedown from Colby that DC

1792
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: went on the record with he would know he's an

1793
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: Olympian was a takedown. Luke, I side with them. I

1794
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: sided with Kevin Holland.

1795
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean taking up with Fight Metric, who has

1796
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: a very particular measurement of it. Perhaps if you wanted

1797
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 2: to have a different measurement, you could do that, but

1798
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 2: according to the way that records are compiled, no, it's.

1799
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: Not has Fight has the nerds that Fight Metric. The

1800
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: Nerds and Virgins ever wrestled in the Olympics, Luke, have

1801
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: they ever.

1802
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 2: Trained out there? Actually are some guys who wrestled competitively

1803
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: who do work at fight Metric, Yes, believe it right.

1804
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: Have they ever rolled with the Fox Catcher guy, Luke,

1805
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: John DuPont? Yes, okay, unless you've done that before or

1806
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:45,520
Speaker 1: after his murder before he ben wad the US Amateur Association.

1807
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 1: Oh god, what that's a tough ending.

1808
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 2: Really are like, hey man, remember the time that a

1809
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 2: bunch of people died in that what was it called

1810
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 2: the Holocaust? Yeah?

1811
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: Remember that spoiler alert? That movie ends badly? All right, Luke,

1812
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: this was a.

1813
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,679
Speaker 2: Great Moor's List. Is not a romantic comedy. People fucking

1814
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 2: overstold that. I'm like, uh yeah, that's one of the

1815
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: comedy at all.

1816
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: One of the better moments in Chandler Geechee was this

1817
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: piece of business, Luke. I, this is when I popped.

1818
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 1: This is when I got fired up.

1819
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 2: Same reason. That's not a takedown. He just comes up on. Now,

1820
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 2: that would be something of a I don't know if

1821
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 2: they would call that a takedown, depending how you want

1822
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: to word it. But Chandler picks him up and drops him,

1823
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 2: but never establishes control.

1824
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: And it came at a moment round three where you're

1825
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 1: waiting for Chandler to get knocked out and out of

1826
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 1: know where, He's got the surge of energy to slam

1827
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: him and Geechee rolling through it. Good shit, Luke, I

1828
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: love this type of stuff.

1829
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: Great fight, great fight.

1830
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: All right, Let's see Bobby Green's entrance into the cage.

1831
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: Colby came in and did a summersault, but about an

1832
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: hour before, did you see Bobby Green's entrance?

1833
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 2: He always does this.

1834
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: I love it, Luke, I love that shit, dude.

1835
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 2: Bobby Green looked fucking awesome against Ali at Quinton. Really really.

1836
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: I know Al was off for a long time and whatever,

1837
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 2: but Bobby Green looked good.

1838
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, tough night for those long Islanders. Luke, more to

1839
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: come on that. Let's go over to Ireland's Ian Gary,

1840
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: who uh who talked a big game after this. Luke

1841
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: in the interview kind of called himself the next Connor,

1842
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: but he's much more polite about it. How do you

1843
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: think about the finish here?

1844
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the guy was just lunging forward, swinging

1845
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 2: wide hooks. Gary took a step back and then just

1846
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 2: punched over the top. It's great, great recognition, great accuracy,

1847
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 2: great distance management. He is fainting. Watch it takes a

1848
01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 2: step back at an angle. Another one pops. It takes

1849
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: a step half back right there boom.

1850
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: If you want to know if this guy's real, watch

1851
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 1: MK extra credit later today. I'm sure it's going to

1852
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: be entertaining. Probably maybe we'll be possibly all right, all.

1853
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 2: The things, it will be, all the things that you

1854
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 2: hate about people who watch MK for analysis, It will

1855
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 2: be all.

1856
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:42,720
Speaker 1: Very true, very true. You guys put the anal in

1857
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: analysis very well. All right, it's time for a Chris

1858
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: Barnett appreciation post here from UFC two sixty eight. Let's

1859
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: start with his Walks to the Cage.

1860
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: Louke, Dude, this fat man is my fucking hero. Look

1861
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,560
Speaker 2: at this guy. Now, Luke shows up to weddings. He

1862
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: shows up to weddings and out dances every group.

1863
01:27:58,200 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 1: Oh, he will eat all the kke, He'll take all

1864
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: the women. Look at this guy. He knows how to partay.

1865
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: People will say that know me. Hey, BC, you're always

1866
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: criticizing Michelle Pedata and Johnny Walker for using all their

1867
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: gas tank dancing into the cage. How come you're not

1868
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: criticizing this guy because this guy's too fun, Luke. This

1869
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: guy's intoxicatingly fun, all.

1870
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 2: Right, he's just.

1871
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 1: And also he knows how to finish. In John Valante's

1872
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: final UFC fight, in which it didn't look like he

1873
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 1: trained for good, Lord, Luke, spretting wheel kick.

1874
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 2: From a fat guy, I'm not sure if it was

1875
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: spinning wheel or spinning heel, but either way, then look

1876
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: at this windmill.

1877
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: And watch this celebration. I've never seen that before.

1878
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: Come, that's incredible, dude, he's the best. He's the fight.

1879
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 2: He's so athletic for being a big, old fat guy.

1880
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: He's the best, Dude.

1881
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 1: When he landed on his ass, he did like the

1882
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: double devil horns and did a split. I mean won

1883
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 1: to finish. Look at that guy going nuts in the crowd.

1884
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,759
Speaker 1: All right, We're not done here with one. Chris Barnett.

1885
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: Let's check out his celebration dance after the win. Now, Luke,

1886
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: I don't have another video, but he would go on

1887
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 1: to celebrate walking by the media tables. He just basically

1888
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: danced the whole way back to the locker room.

1889
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 2: Dude, you know what Ryan Ryan Jimo used to have

1890
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 2: the best robot remember his robots.

1891
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 1: After he will win rest Jim Hey, shout out, fat guys.

1892
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: I love fat mma, I love it all right.

1893
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 2: Let's go to bell heavyweights. Fat heavyweights who are jovial

1894
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,560
Speaker 2: and can dance are the all time APEX presenters.

1895
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 1: Guys that drink out of shoes. Love those guys, all right.

1896
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to Belatour and Dublin lightweight Daniel SKATESI with

1897
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: the head kick on Brian hoy Oy he would go

1898
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 1: on to take the decision win here. Yeah, that's a

1899
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: great looking kick right there. Take that shit, all right,

1900
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 1: let's keep it, Luke. If you do you know about

1901
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 1: Turkish heavyweight go con seracom. He needed just fifteen seconds

1902
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: to tell to send Charlie Milner to hell. Here's all

1903
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 1: fifteen of them, Luke. That Lake kick looking like lesnar

1904
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: against against the damn what's the guy's name, the.

1905
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 2: Heath Hering Luke, No, that one off for three rounds.

1906
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that first round where he threw the punch

1907
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 1: and then went with a running tackle on heath Haring.

1908
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about?

1909
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 2: That right here? Yeah, yeah, and almost like over tackled

1910
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 2: him and missed.

1911
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Check out this leg strike though that that sent out.

1912
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 1: Can we see that one more time? Gift please?

1913
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I don't know what to say about this.

1914
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't we missed it, we missed it, we missed it.

1915
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: All right, Oh, here's here, it is here it is

1916
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: Oh ship they put that fat dude in peril, Luke, Yeah,

1917
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 1: which probably ga chee habibe right there. All right, Luke,

1918
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Jake Paul press conference in Vegas,

1919
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 1: and let's first see Jake's attire to this. Look, he

1920
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,759
Speaker 1: looked like a back to the future like space villain

1921
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 1: from the from like, you know, fifty years from now.

1922
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 2: He looks like the Final Boss in a straight to

1923
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 2: DVD movie or something like. He's like, he's like the

1924
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 2: evil Boss in like the the next Zoolander movie. Put

1925
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 2: that back up, Put that back up. Look at it.

1926
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got some he's got a nice side

1927
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 1: side piece there. Look well done.

1928
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 2: But that's that's a human being that you can refer

1929
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 2: to as such. You don't have to have a label

1930
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 2: like that. That's very dismissive and other rising.

1931
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 1: But are you saying this one and only? Look?

1932
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying, I'm just saying the suit

1933
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 2: was made by the character that Will Ferrell plays in Zoolander.

1934
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 1: All right, let's hear from Jake. He had an interesting

1935
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:37,879
Speaker 1: roast of Dana White during this press.

1936
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 2: Conference, doesn't he always.

1937
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 5: Dana again, thank you wherever you are, Thank you for

1938
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 5: promoting my fights. You literally tee up every single fight

1939
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 5: for me perfectly. He plays bets against me. I prove

1940
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,720
Speaker 5: you wrong. You try to bring in coaches for my

1941
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 5: opponents so that they can beat me. You're letting Tommy

1942
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 5: Fury train at the UFC Performance Institute.

1943
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: Give it up, guy, like, give it give it up

1944
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: a fighter, real boxer. When is he gonna fight our guy?

1945
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: His own age or whatever.

1946
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 5: Dana White is constantly fucking saying, you know, I'm doing it.

1947
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing it.

1948
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 5: And he's mad that I'm doing it because he's a

1949
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 5: control freak, and when he doesn't have his fingers dipped

1950
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 5: into someone's business, he doesn't want to see them succeed,

1951
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:22,560
Speaker 5: and he tries to bring them down. But he's not

1952
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 5: smart enough to realize that. Every single time he talks

1953
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 5: about me, it just makes my shit go up.

1954
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 1: Look, I think he's he's right, and I didn't even

1955
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 1: know about Dana offering the PI to Tommy Fury. That's

1956
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:36,920
Speaker 1: interesting right there.

1957
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's very right. I mean Tommy Fury, actually

1958
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 2: I feel like has a decent chance of meeting Jake.

1959
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in probably in the coming weeks

1960
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 2: to the much to the dismay of our hardcore MMA

1961
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 2: fan audience. But in all seriousness, like, I do think

1962
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 2: Dana White desperately wants Jake to lose, and Jake is

1963
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 2: right to highlight that as a way to sort of

1964
01:32:59,040 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 2: stick it to him.

1965
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 1: I mean, just like Dana desperately wanted Kimbo and the

1966
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:05,799
Speaker 1: ELITICC and Strike Force Years to lose, right, I desperately

1967
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 1: wanted uh Fador to lose. Yeah, I think he's right, Luke.

1968
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: But the real MVP, Tommy Fury was unable to attend

1969
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 1: this due to a family emergency. The real MVP of

1970
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 1: this press conference turned out to be the comedian Drew Ski,

1971
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 1: who played the role of Coach d Luke. I don't

1972
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,560
Speaker 1: even know if people in this press conference were in

1973
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 1: on this joke. This was some Andy Kaufman shit with

1974
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 1: Coach d calling him white boy, and look at the

1975
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 1: little little workout they did.

1976
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:44,480
Speaker 4: Oh, this is gonna be interesting, excellent.

1977
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: Drill, you know, Jesus, Look, you kind of have to

1978
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: watch the whole press conference to get the full context.

1979
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:55,120
Speaker 1: But I have to say, Jake is cringey at times.

1980
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: This was hilarious. I'm not kidding. They were dead panning

1981
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 1: the entire time. This was This was very well done.

1982
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: I'll h I watched it. I did not find it

1983
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 2: nearly as humorous as you. But also I've not been

1984
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 2: hit in the head repeatedly with a tire iron, so

1985
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 2: there is that.

1986
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 1: Look, I know, comedy, all right, you might be about

1987
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 1: you have that BD, that brain damage energy. You might

1988
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 1: be surprised about that.

1989
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 2: I know.

1990
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 1: Calmedy Okay, looke, all right, let's go back to UFC two.

1991
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 2: You are such you are just trying to appeal to

1992
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 2: the minor.

1993
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 1: You are you you?

1994
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 2: I love you, but you are a handful.

1995
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: Look, I serve all fans, Okay, there's very we have

1996
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 1: very different variety of fans. You're always going after those

1997
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 1: boring ones who are like, you know, hey, let's go

1998
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,559
Speaker 1: back to UFC two sixty eight, because so much happened. Luke,

1999
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 1: uh Dana, did Dana pay for a cameo for the

2000
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:49,639
Speaker 1: Island Boys. Let's hear this bullshit. Hey, uc oh Dana

2001
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 1: you mater mn.

2002
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 3: You ain't got a busy when you don't about the man,

2003
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 3: ye go up, don't knock him down here, talk about

2004
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 3: like Dann, Why you talking when he's down? Like you

2005
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 3: don't make danel wayo really at you proud yet?

2006
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2007
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah when the money take it really you need it.

2008
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 3: Bens fighter Suth you better fight. You talk about okay,

2009
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 3: make that Jake is really tight. Knock him out, knock

2010
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 3: him out left and right, talk about talk about knock

2011
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 3: him every night. Hey, and being just a dow just

2012
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 3: some strike shit. You better throw kind of punch and

2013
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:32,879
Speaker 3: knock a mounta man bro Dan a white Gill just one.

2014
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 4: Chancy way shot way shot.

2015
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 3: He just want to be in the UFC man, So

2016
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 3: you put it up in his tin and man be

2017
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 3: shots you man?

2018
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: Are you okay? That's it off, CAF, that's it off.

2019
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:47,639
Speaker 1: Having this ship already all right? Look do you think

2020
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 1: our our our m m A fans of the show

2021
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 1: hate more when we talk about Jake Paul or when

2022
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 1: we play the Island Boys.

2023
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 2: Look, where's a drive by shooting? When you need one. Jesus, Look, what.

2024
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 1: Will these guys any chance? He these guys become the

2025
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 1: next stem where like UFC brass doesn't realize how lame

2026
01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: they are and makes them the Fight Island Boys in

2027
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 1: their theme song.

2028
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,839
Speaker 2: I don't even know what language they were speaking.

2029
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: What was that?

2030
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't English?

2031
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of Dana Luke, even Canelo laughed about this.

2032
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 1: Dana White watching Canelo plant from cape side at MSG,

2033
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: later claimingthan he bet one hundred k on a knockout.

2034
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: Well he got that knockout.

2035
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 2: Luke, Listen, everyone wants to grill Dana for watching Canelo

2036
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 2: at the UFC event, But Dan, you gonna remember something like, uh,

2037
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 2: there's plenty of things you can criticize Dana over. It's

2038
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 2: not very hard, but honestly, this one, like you're stupid rich,

2039
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:45,440
Speaker 2: you had paid you bet, like a pretty fucking significant

2040
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 2: bet on Canelo. He's a dude. At the end of

2041
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 2: the day, Dana White can say whatever he wants. He

2042
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 2: is a boxing hardcore. He is he is. You have

2043
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 2: to give it to him. He's a boxing hardcore. There

2044
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,479
Speaker 2: was no fucking way he was gonna miss that fight,

2045
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,880
Speaker 2: not a chance. So, like everyone was grown Ford because

2046
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 2: you've got UFC right in front of you. But like,

2047
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 2: that's just who Dana is. Man, I kind of get it.

2048
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 1: Actually he respects Canelo and I like that. He said,

2049
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 1: like enough of this, OSMI here is.

2050
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 2: By the way, he was asked about it afterwards, he

2051
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 2: obviously took a shot at Steven Espinosa, the head of

2052
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 2: the Showtime Sports whatever, because that those two obviously are battled.

2053
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 2: He went out of his way to not say one

2054
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 2: bad thing about Canelo and even said, I like Canelo

2055
01:37:22,479 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 2: a lot. Like dude, it's the number one pomp upound

2056
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,720
Speaker 2: boxer in the sport. Dana White's a hardcore boxing fan.

2057
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: Like I expected that, Luke backstage at MSG check out

2058
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 1: this piece of business caught on camera Francis and Gan,

2059
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 1: who snubs Cyril Gone as he walks by.

2060
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you want him to say? Yo?

2061
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 2: Dap him up and be like what's up?

2062
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do, I do. How's how's my old coach doing? Yeah?

2063
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 2: Nah, he's got to fight these guys in two months time.

2064
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: No, No, that's fine, that's fine. I'm down with that.

2065
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 1: That's cool. Uh. One more, Uh, we talk about the

2066
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: jamokes who make up the the mma media these days, Luke,

2067
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,599
Speaker 1: here's one that got a pass to the press conference

2068
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:02,600
Speaker 1: on Thursday.

2069
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, I mean this is the house that

2070
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 2: the UFC's media policies have built.

2071
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 1: Basically, Yes, shout out to Mike Bone who took time.

2072
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 2: Don't know if they like this or not, but this

2073
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 2: is exactly what they have earned themselves by virtue of

2074
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 2: how they've handled media.

2075
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 1: Mike Bond took time away from getting a third base

2076
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 1: on an airplane to put that picture out for people

2077
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: to see, So thank you very much, Mike. All Right, Canelo,

2078
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean Canelo? Good God. Connor McGregor began his training yesterday,

2079
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Luke for his upcoming celebrity wheelchair boxing match with impersonator

2080
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 1: Al Faran. Really excited to get in and have some fun.

2081
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 1: Bust the eyeball of the celebrity impersonator. Al. You can

2082
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 1: be Paccino, Joe Peshi, even big Ty Fury, but you're

2083
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 1: still just fat Al from Talagat. To me, Luke, there's

2084
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 1: something cringe about this picture, Like, okay, cool, I like

2085
01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 1: supporting charity, but is he really going through with this?

2086
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 1: This is kind of aim.

2087
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm still uh, I'm still upset, we had to watch

2088
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 2: the Island Boys. I don't know much of a comment

2089
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 2: about this.

2090
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going. Top Break Boxing was in Las

2091
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: Vegas on Friday night. Luke the opening bout, super middleweight.

2092
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 1: His name is Rowdy Legends, Rowdy Legend Montgomery. Oh my god,

2093
01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 1: he shut this guy to hell, Luke.

2094
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: They have the It was weird because they the guy

2095
01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 2: must have fallen right near one of the corner microphones,

2096
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 2: so you can hear him through his mouthpiece. Go. It's

2097
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 2: actually a little bit disarming. It's this. It was bad.

2098
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 1: Speaking of McGregor. You can see that's the guy who went.

2099
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 2: Down McGregor's getting.

2100
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:41,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. The guy's name is rowdy Legend Montgomery, who delivered

2101
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 1: that blow in the opening bout. Shout out, Luke. I

2102
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 1: am being told by many in the boxing game that

2103
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,679
Speaker 1: we need to look out for seventeen year old lightweight

2104
01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 1: Abdullah Mason, who made his pro debut on the undercard

2105
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 1: on Friday, getting a second round TKO. I believe he's

2106
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 1: from Cleveland, Luke. They're saying, this guy's the.

2107
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 2: Real Cleveland is the city where we come from. So

2108
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 2: Ron Ron Broun boom over the top. I mean he's

2109
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 2: not fighting the world's best here, but no, but keep that.

2110
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,200
Speaker 1: Name close to your heart there. Abdullah Mason just seventeen

2111
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 1: years old. And Luke Sean Porter was on the Top

2112
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: Rink broadcast on Friday because of course he'll be fighting

2113
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: Terrence Crawford on an ESPN pay per view and they

2114
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 1: they caught him nappin'. Let's hear this audio.

2115
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 2: I know you I had to wipe the drool. Bro.

2116
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 2: That's me when that that BC. This is me when

2117
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 2: the lady comes through the plane with like the cart

2118
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 2: to give you like water or you know, soda or whatever.

2119
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 2: That's me waking up being like, yes, I'll have I'll

2120
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: have a glass of water.

2121
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: Uh. And my boy, I know I'm doing my boy

2122
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: Sean Porter dirty here, but he's working hard, so he's exhausted.

2123
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 1: Luke ahead of this, Uh, to build to this, I'd

2124
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 1: be believe. November twentieth, him and two and Scrawford, very

2125
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: good title fight in the welterweight division. Also this main event,

2126
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 1: Luke MICHAELA. Mayor went in there against Maiva Mama Douche

2127
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:13,879
Speaker 1: and they put on a ten round war. This sequence

2128
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: you're watching here was basically every round this was a

2129
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,200
Speaker 1: hell of a fight. It was a wide decision win

2130
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: for Mikayla Mayor. But Luke, I talked to actually two

2131
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 1: of the judges who scored that and they said, look,

2132
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 1: it was a great fight, but one fighter was getting

2133
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 1: the better of the action. And I think Mikayla Mayor

2134
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: made a leap here, Luke. She's not known as a

2135
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 1: brawler or a big puncher. She had to dig into

2136
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 1: the phone booth and win this shit. This was fun.

2137
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 2: She earned it, but her opponent had next to his

2138
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the number lower than zero whatever that is.

2139
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 2: I get negative won and below, but I'm just saying

2140
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 2: zero head movement.

2141
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she was there to brawl, There's no question.

2142
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 1: And you know, I do regret.

2143
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 2: You know.

2144
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, Luke, there's a top rank card

2145
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 1: on Friday. You're like, should we go to it? I

2146
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 1: was like, see you at the Waterbury Open, and you know,

2147
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 1: I kind of wish I was ringside for this now, Luke.

2148
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, well eat shit, guy, It was your call.

2149
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 1: All right. Last Tuesday, the Dana White Contender Series gave

2150
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 1: us the rare double low blow. You see the shit, Luke,

2151
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 1: I did not I miss this look at. The screen

2152
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,560
Speaker 1: on the right shows the aftermath. The screen on the

2153
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: left shows the carnage happening in front of you. Yikes,

2154
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 1: just when you.

2155
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 2: Think you've seen it all, testicle mangling really is uh,

2156
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 2: it's it's it's in its infancy be seen in stages

2157
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 2: of MMA.

2158
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, just when you think you've seen it all

2159
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 1: in MMA, there's a promotion called Fight Circus, which does

2160
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 1: some weird shit. They had their third pay per view

2161
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 1: this weekend debuting Siamese kickboxing. Your thoughts.

2162
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 2: Are these the Island boys?

2163
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 1: This is this is yeah? This is uh something here, Luke.

2164
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 1: There was also a Polish promotion that did a intergender match.

2165
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: Did you see that got a lot of.

2166
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 2: Criticism for it. I did. Yeah, they other parts of

2167
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,160
Speaker 2: the world. They just don't give a fuck about human life.

2168
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you'll you'll shoot your eye out. And

2169
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: speaking of that, Luke, Michael Bisping did something really gross

2170
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 1: on the on this UFC preview show. He's done it before.

2171
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: You want to see a man take his eyes.

2172
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 2: This is his party trick where he takes his eyeball out.

2173
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:23,479
Speaker 6: Okay, oh, yikes, Like I'm an eyeball by you know,

2174
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 6: I certainly respect everything about business, being the toughness, the

2175
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:29,839
Speaker 6: ability to fight with one eye and not tell anybody.

2176
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 1: But my grandfather used to take his false teeth out,

2177
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 1: Luke and scare us. It reminds me of that. You know,

2178
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 1: at some point I'd be like Grandpa, like this is

2179
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:40,719
Speaker 1: going to ruin our relationship if you keep.

2180
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 2: Doing this to me. You know that, and you know

2181
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 2: other things he was doing to you.

2182
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Oh wow, wow, Luke, what

2183
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 1: do you have again taking me to the park.

2184
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:51,720
Speaker 2: Jesus, get your mind out of the gut or you

2185
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 2: disgusting the.

2186
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 1: Splash pad with with the Thomases. All right, Luke. Jan

2187
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,600
Speaker 1: Belhovitz may have lost the UFC Light Heavyweight title, but

2188
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 1: he's the star of an upcoming Polish action movie. Check

2189
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: out this trailer.

2190
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 2: Luke, I have to bring legendary Polish power to other

2191
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:09,160
Speaker 2: parts of Poland.

2192
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:12,560
Speaker 1: Pittsball see it.

2193
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, I went. I've been to Poland.

2194
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 2: Uh maybe the nicest people in Europe. Maybe it is debatable,

2195
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 2: but they're up there.

2196
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,679
Speaker 1: I did talk to a prominent member of the Polish

2197
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 1: media this weekend, Luke, who said Jan told him for

2198
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 1: the loss to Glover. He just he just woke up

2199
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 1: and he knew he was gonna lose. It was just

2200
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 1: one of those off days.

2201
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 2: He said.

2202
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 1: If it was training camp, he would have not sparred

2203
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 1: that day. Like it was one of those days. We

2204
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 1: just woke up and he just didn't have it.

2205
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 2: Well, didn't have it happens, It happened. I believe that actually.

2206
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: Yep, Luke, we made a few jokes before about Justin

2207
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: Gatgee's leg striking ability. Oh, BC, you keeping this uh

2208
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,559
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory moving. You know you're you're a big You're

2209
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: a big weirdo. Hey. I respect Brendan Fitzgerald a lot, Luke.

2210
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 1: I think he actually watches this show. What do you

2211
01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: think about this tweet? Luke? Can we blow this up?

2212
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like FITZI, but you both are on drugs.

2213
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 1: We talk a lot about how close Chandler was to

2214
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,000
Speaker 1: winning the lightweight title. In my opinion, Geechee was another

2215
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 1: leg kick or two from severely damaging Habib in winning

2216
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: it last year. Luke, the only word he didn't use

2217
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 1: was peril, because that's how close Abib came to losing

2218
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: the title. Hey, Brendan Fitzgerald, Sir, Okay, I.

2219
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 2: Do like FITZI he's a phenomenal commentator and a great

2220
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 2: addition to the anime family.

2221
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 1: But he gets it.

2222
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 2: But you both have done long hits together.

2223
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 1: He sees through the bullshit. He gets it. Thank you.

2224
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go over to the Canelo undercard PBC

2225
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 1: in Vegas. Here Anthony Darrell on the comin event, Luke

2226
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: against Journeys.

2227
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 2: It was this was I mean, what a fucking shot.

2228
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 2: This was the opponent clapping on the mat.

2229
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean, this upper cup was was just perfect.

2230
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 2: Just I had an MMA fan, right, meanbe like Justin's

2231
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 2: was better on Michael Chandler. I'm like, are you out

2232
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 2: of your fucking mind? They're not even nearly as good? Bop?

2233
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh look that shit.

2234
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 1: How about the dog doing the backflip at age thirty seven? Luke,

2235
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: he said he wants to He's probably not gonna get Canelo,

2236
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 1: but I think there's still some big fights for him.

2237
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to see him against Kayleb Plant to be honest.

2238
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 2: He said, Well what he said was Duro says Canelo

2239
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 2: or retirement. I'm like, well you might want to get

2240
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 2: the retirement speech ready.

2241
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 1: All right, hey, Luke, check out this person who won

2242
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 1: Halloween by dressing up as their favorite UFC fighter, Kay Hansen.

2243
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 2: I don't who is the person on the who's the

2244
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 2: first person.

2245
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 1: On the left is the gentleman who dressed up as

2246
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:44,200
Speaker 1: his favorite UFC fighter. It's a as Mike Oldberg would say, Luke,

2247
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: virtually identical.

2248
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a big tattoo she has. Yes, yes,

2249
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 2: she just wante Liberty with the American flag behind.

2250
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:57,639
Speaker 1: I think she just launched an only fans, Luke. I'm

2251
01:46:57,640 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 1: not into that stuff, so I don't know, but I

2252
01:46:59,080 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 1: think I read that on you.

2253
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're totally not into that at all. You definitely

2254
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 2: don't think that's fun.

2255
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:04,640
Speaker 5: Uh.

2256
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 1: Oscar dale Hoya went out to see the fights on Saturday.

2257
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 1: He may no longer be representing Canelo Alvarez, but Luke,

2258
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,040
Speaker 1: look at what he's representing. Can we zoom in here?

2259
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 1: Is that a dressed Luke? No, no, wonder that man

2260
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 1: is so happy?

2261
01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be that if that was your date, you'd

2262
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:23,560
Speaker 2: have the exact same expression, only your pants would be

2263
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 2: around your ankles.

2264
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: Uh, Luke. Last night, at like eleven o'clock, you and

2265
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 1: I saw Jarrett Swift heard at the baggage pick up

2266
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: at the Washington Reagan National Airport. But he's starting a

2267
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 1: little bit of a potential feud here with one Jurmel Charlow.

2268
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 1: Let's watch this video to see how it started on

2269
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 1: social media.

2270
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 7: What's up y'all out here, Houston, Texas? Boy to go

2271
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 7: to Culogers, anybody out here housed to get help me

2272
01:47:54,960 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 7: look for the meat market that Charlo go to.

2273
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 1: Let me know also, and he helped me out with

2274
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 1: the w they take it that they don't lost they

2275
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 1: motherfucking what he said, he.

2276
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:12,759
Speaker 2: Was the champion.

2277
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:15,559
Speaker 1: He in my city, herd and Houston trying to train.

2278
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: I gotta be like the Charlows. I gotta figure out

2279
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 1: what the fuck kind of state they eat from a

2280
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 1: g B. Now we got a g B and Kroger's.

2281
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 1: Nigga ain't no Walmart in Walmart, meat ain't when we

2282
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 1: eat nigga, the girl with you, nigga, we eat ship

2283
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 1: from the meat market. The apologies for the N word, Luke,

2284
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 1: But what what Swift had said was, could some I'm

2285
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 1: going to Kroger's. Can someone help me find the meat

2286
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 1: that the Charlo's eat and maybe the drugs that they

2287
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 1: take too. Uh, you know, in saying ped use. So

2288
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: so Jamal just fired back, Luke. They saw each other

2289
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:54,600
Speaker 1: at Canelo plant and we almost had a little bit

2290
01:48:54,640 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 1: of business here. Let's go to the videotape, all right, Kaef,

2291
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 1: all right, that's Swift in the green hat and that's

2292
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:10,720
Speaker 1: Jermal's in the red. Jermal is in the white hat.

2293
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 1: Can we blow this up and watch it again?

2294
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 2: So for folks who don't know, Jamal would be the

2295
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 2: bigger of the two, the one that would be in

2296
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 2: Hurd's weight category.

2297
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 1: So Swift tried to slap Jermal, and Jamal got in

2298
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: the way and we almost went to fistokoffs. Luke, this

2299
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:24,799
Speaker 1: was interesting.

2300
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:28,400
Speaker 2: What very that crowd was? That crowd was rowdy, bro,

2301
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 2: They were rowdy.

2302
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 1: So the same night, Jermal was asked by a reporter

2303
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: what he thought about Canelo's performance. Here's his response. Here's

2304
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:58,960
Speaker 1: Jamal Charlo. Look at that Glaire right there. Dude, Charlos

2305
01:49:59,040 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 1: are all as like.

2306
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I actually like both Charlot brothers. I

2307
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 2: think you're very good boxers. I loved covering that double header.

2308
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 2: I thought that was a great event for both both

2309
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 2: main events. I mean, I mean that sincerely, But dude,

2310
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:16,879
Speaker 2: they're always acting like someone has done them wrong, always

2311
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 2: always got a chip on their shoulder.

2312
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 1: Monster chips. And that's what I love about them because

2313
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 1: they're always intense, always ready.

2314
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 2: Dude, They're never there. It's always game seven. It's always

2315
01:50:27,439 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 2: game seven with them.

2316
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 1: By the way, i'd love to see Swift Herd, who's

2317
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 1: coming off a rough loss against Jamel Charlo. Who'd be interesting.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Swift needs to win one first,

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01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 1: but i'd love to see that two elites coming.

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Speaker 2: Swift needs to get right after that terrible performance he

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01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 2: had at the Logan May with her. You're not wrong,

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01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 2: they're not a good showing.

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Speaker 1: One more piece of shit for you. Luke.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, anytime the punch machine's involved, you know you're

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Speaker 1: gonna end up on this show.

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01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 2: Oh oh no, don't stand next to the punch Oh

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01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 2: can we do man on that? That's a Who are

2329
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 2: these people that like to stand next Look at her?

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01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 2: Look at the cook the way back to the chesticle.

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01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:12,679
Speaker 1: Put a little tattoo on too, tea right there, Luke,

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01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:17,640
Speaker 1: Look at that? Oh yeow wow, okay, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: they call it the silicone smash.

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Speaker 2: Luke, the silicone smash, All right, BC? Is that it

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01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 2: for your ship?

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01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's it. I had a lot of shit this week.

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01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed time for odds and ends? What

2338
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 2: do you got for odds?

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01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 1: And I don't really have one, Luke. I kind of

2340
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:31,799
Speaker 1: broke it all that kind of got to it all already.

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01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 1: So what do you got, Luke? All right?

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01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:34,640
Speaker 5: Uh?

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01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so I will have mine. Let me pull out

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01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 2: my notes here, Sorry about that for my odds and ends.

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01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 2: Cedric Doombay do you know that name? BC? Do not

2346
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 2: know that name? Cedric Doombay is French, by the way,

2347
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,639
Speaker 2: but he is one of the best kickboxers on Earth.

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01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 2: And he actually made his MMA not I think MMA debut, Yes,

2350
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,439
Speaker 2: the first of November, so it was kind of earlier

2351
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 2: in the week and it got lost, but I want

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01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 2: to make sure we brought it up. He fought some

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01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 2: dude named Arbi Emiev who was like two and two

2354
01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 2: or whatever at Super Combat Universe in Dubai, and he

2355
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 2: smoked him at four minutes and forty seconds of the

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01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 2: first round. A guy who you might ask, like, what

2357
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 2: has Doombay done in glory A lot? He's got wins

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01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 2: over Kareem Gaji, Mirchell, Gruenhardt, the Mickey Holdskin twice. He

2359
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 2: has wins over him, Brad Redell, who's in the UFC.

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01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:27,719
Speaker 2: He's got a win over Brad Riddell as well, split

2361
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 2: decision one, but he got it just the same. He

2362
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 2: is an absolutely phenomenal talent and he has finally, by

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01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 2: the way, he's only twenty nine and he's making his

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01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:40,600
Speaker 2: way into MMA. The thing with Alex Pereira BC is

2365
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 2: he's I mean, is he good. He's obviously fucking awesome,

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01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 2: But he's thirty four. You know, so Chandler was thirty four,

2367
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 2: but Chandler was just changing organizations, not really sports. And

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01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 2: I know that before this UFC debut, Alex Pereira had

2369
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 2: a handful of other fights and had done quite well

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01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,920
Speaker 2: for the most part. But in the case of Doombay,

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01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:02,200
Speaker 2: he's starting sort of fresh. But he's twenty nine, he's

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01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 2: got some real time to get good. It's taked on.

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01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,800
Speaker 2: Defense was pretty good by the way, all things considered, Like,

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01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:08,919
Speaker 2: I don't know how good he's going to be an MMABC,

2375
01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 2: But when you get a kickboxer the caliber of this

2376
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 2: guy heading over to MMA, you take note. So keep

2377
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 2: keep in mind Cedric Dumbay, tough, tough guy.

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01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 1: I will be on the lookout for that name, just

2379
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 1: like seventeen year old Abdulla Mason. I hear he's coming, Luke,

2380
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 1: so we'll find out.

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01:53:26,200 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't have any odds or ends. But we had

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01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 1: a great time, Luke.

2384
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:30,600
Speaker 4: You and I.

2385
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 2: Okay, what a week. What a week it was for you.

2386
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 2: You were there for two different weekends. I was there

2387
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 2: just for the half of the half for two third.

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01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 1: Different first a special project.

2389
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 2: That was a great weekend. Man, that was a great

2390
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 2: week for us. I thought we did a lot trying

2391
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 2: to serve a couple of different masters, you know, the

2392
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 2: Canelo fight plus the UFC fight. I thought we did

2393
01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 2: the best we could. And yeah, seems like the people

2394
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:49,360
Speaker 2: who got.

2395
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 1: Out of the scene chrispy and clean for the big moments,

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01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean, show Time trusted us, Luke, and we didn't.

2397
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 1: We didn't say the word. We didn't say that Q

2398
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 1: word that you often get in trouble for at all

2399
01:53:58,080 --> 01:53:59,240
Speaker 1: during that Any of those that.

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01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 2: Did great, we did not. We managed to keep it,

2401
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 2: for the most part, pretty clean. So I just want

2402
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 2: to say thanks to everyone who watched for our new subscribers,

2403
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 2: we appreciate you joining us. We'll do this three times

2404
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 2: a week Monday, Wednesday Friday eleven am in the East

2405
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:15,759
Speaker 2: again for all the fights that we didn't get to Pereira, Edgar, Gary,

2406
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 2: the whole nine yards MK extra credit will be up

2407
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 2: around five pm or so and we'll have all of

2408
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 2: that analysis there. So can you address done yet?

2409
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 1: Can you address this situation? There were there were a

2410
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 1: lot of people who really enjoyed our fight companion, so

2411
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:32,160
Speaker 1: to speak, Saturday night of watching the co main event

2412
01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: and main event the UFC card in real time for

2413
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 1: us after the fact. The problem, you know, and they're going, what, well,

2414
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 1: this is what we always wanted. I get the other

2415
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 1: half didn't like it. The problem is we really can't

2416
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:45,920
Speaker 1: ever do that in real time because or both of

2417
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 1: us are covering it for you know, cbssports dot com

2418
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 1: or or CBS.

2419
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 2: And also do like I just wasn't making sound judgments.

2420
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 2: I need like a little bit of space and time

2421
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,440
Speaker 2: to watch it and absorb it and think about it.

2422
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,280
Speaker 1: Then I need to take notes to remember, you know

2423
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 1: what happened in the round, you know before? Yeah, you

2424
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 1: got it?

2425
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so reminders. We got some merch. We

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Speaker 2: got the Dia de los Moreto shirt. Drug rugs are

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Speaker 2: can start buying. So if you want to get a

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Speaker 2: if you're a woman who watches this probably the handful

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Speaker 2: of you and you don't want to get something for

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Speaker 2: you can pound sand and Morning Combat at gmail dot

2440
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Speaker 2: com is the place to email us for Wednesdays fan

2441
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 2: subs and Friday's Dead wrong BC. What am I missing?

2442
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 2: Anything else?

2443
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 1: I want to shout out to the Contender's Clothing Brandy.

2444
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 1: We got to go to their pop up store in

2445
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:59,400
Speaker 1: Vegas this weekend. They look you may not be into

2446
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 1: the box, so to speak, but they got they got all,

2447
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: they got Rocky, They got karate Kid, I got this

2448
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 1: nice hat here. They we got some nice shit from them.

2449
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 1: Big fan of their their stuff has always shout out

2450
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: to our boy Chris Ja over there, by our merch,

2451
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 1: by their merch. All right, that's it.

2452
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's it. I think wait for extra credit

2453
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 2: that will be out a little bit later today.

2454
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 1: And I'm waiting for extra sleep, Luke, That's what I'm

2455
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 1: waiting for.

2456
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 2: You've earned it, You've earned it, You've earned it, So

2457
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 2: leave us a five star review on Apple Podcasts. Help

2458
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 2: us scam the algorithm, and yeah, I do. I just

2459
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 2: want to say one more time. I want to thank

2460
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 2: everyone from Malca. I want to thank our producer Mikey

2461
01:56:37,360 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 2: from CBS, all the fans who watched, everybody else. It

2462
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 2: was a really strong week in Las Vegas. We did

2463
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 2: a lot of planning, a lot of execution. We needed

2464
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 2: a little bit of luck and we got it too,

2465
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 2: and everything else just kind of played out. So very

2466
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 2: happy was what we were able to do when.

2467
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 1: Each was clutched this past week. Okay, Gaff is here now,

2468
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 1: he's always clutch, those vaping cameraman very clutch. Love love

2469
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,560
Speaker 1: our team here, Luke, I love our team. I kind

2470
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 1: of think we should do like a MK Survivor reality

2471
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 1: show where we, you know, every week we end up

2472
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 1: voting one staff member off and they lose their job

2473
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 1: and stuff, but like they get like a nice close

2474
01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:13,000
Speaker 1: up and we'll you know, and like you know, they

2475
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 1: have to try to compete for it and ship. You know.

2476
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not really listening, okay. For Brian Campbell, I'm

2477
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas. I had to. I had to just shit

2478
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 2: on you at the end. I'm so sorry.

2479
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm so wash. Look I'm so gross right now. Smell this.

2480
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 2: I know I know what state you're in. You absolute

2481
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 2: fucking soal.

2482
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 1: Just smell this ship look gets so gross.

2483
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 2: For Brian Campbell, I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks to everyone who

2484
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 2: made the last week possible. But the new week begins.

2485
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 2: We'll see you on Wednesday. I'll see you later on

2486
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 2: extra credit. Until then, all of your games be loyal