Speaker 1: No Willian mouths and good god, girl, you better learn
Speaker 1: out of faces.
Speaker 2: He's not never misses. He's not good girl, girl, you
Speaker 2: better faces.
Speaker 3: Is not.
Speaker 2: Welcome back? Who is excited? We are getting closer and
Speaker 2: closer to White Jesus' birthday.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna are you excited?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do the podcast? Was it Avian calendar?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: That's what it is? Raight?
Speaker 2: Peach avan Calendar? I used to have that as a kid,
Speaker 2: like where they have the chocolate in each day? Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know you just open the door each morning.
Speaker 5: What's the podcast version of that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: This season, I don't know. Every day is a new
Speaker 2: list pretty much, Yes, every day is a new list.
Speaker 2: But yes, I'm going to continue to know everyone. Every
Speaker 2: time we come back on an episode, I'm going to
Speaker 2: remind everyone that Christmas is upon us and I'm excited.
Speaker 4: Good, look, you should be excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'll go skating at Bryant Park.
Speaker 5: Who knows?
Speaker 2: Who knows anything is possible?
Speaker 4: They did still skating? Yeah, of course they stop woman
Speaker 4: rinking Central Park.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know about Central Park, but Bran, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they still have that Central Park one. That's
Speaker 2: like the main That was one of my fav that
Speaker 2: was the that's the one, but then that got too
Speaker 2: crowded and Bryant Park was like the b side of
Speaker 2: that that like no one really knew about yet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it looks like they still do it at Central Park.
Speaker 6: What was the last time he went ice skating?
Speaker 7: About its years? I was going to go maybe two
Speaker 7: years ago to Rockefeller Center.
Speaker 2: I've never done that. I mean, obviously it was it
Speaker 2: was like standing.
Speaker 4: On platform, bro.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like we can't even skate, Like it's
Speaker 7: like everybody's just standing on ice, just standing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that one's it's too small and there's too
Speaker 2: many people. The tree is there, That's that's way.
Speaker 4: To rink though, And Cintra Parker like that one.
Speaker 2: I do not envy people that actually work at thirty
Speaker 2: Rock during the holidays, Like just to get to work
Speaker 2: must be a fucking nightmare just walking around. But either way,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll try to skate at some point before the
Speaker 2: year's up. I've seen you play golf, so I don't
Speaker 2: really know how your skating is. Oh no, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: I can skate you nice. I can roller skate an
Speaker 2: ice skate mall Gretzky.
Speaker 7: I mean I never played hockey, but Okkate, I mean
Speaker 7: just put me out there to, you know, put somebody
Speaker 7: in the face whenever we need that, you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as you can stand on skates and
Speaker 2: get I got you.
Speaker 7: I don't I can't play hockey though I've never never
Speaker 7: played hockey.
Speaker 2: Hockey. Hockey is fun. I was thinking about putting Amar
Speaker 2: on hockey. Really yeah, like no softball, just hockey a
Speaker 2: lesser out. It's also like one of you know, if
Speaker 2: you research, it's one of like the earlier sports kids
Speaker 2: can do, like because the stick can hold them up.
Speaker 2: Oh it's you know, not like full contact like the
Speaker 2: gloves off at age three, but like one of the
Speaker 2: activities that you can do early since before like soccer
Speaker 2: is ice hockey. I think she would like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she seems like she has the personality and she seems you.
Speaker 4: Think she's gonna be athletic or more like artistic.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure yet. She does love to color already,
Speaker 2: but she's athletic as fuck. She kicks everything. I think
Speaker 2: she's a lefty. She can already knows how to swing. Okay,
Speaker 2: so it might softball. Maybe she might be an activist,
Speaker 2: you said, an.
Speaker 4: Activist kicking and swinging already.
Speaker 2: I didn't put those two is in great hands. The
Speaker 2: future is bright. I mean, tennis is where the money is.
Speaker 2: If I'm trying to retire, for sure, I could just
Speaker 2: be one of those overbearing fathers that just makes her
Speaker 2: fuck school. We're gonna do tennis every day.
Speaker 4: You gotta move to Florida.
Speaker 2: We got a tennis court in the bubble.
Speaker 5: Man, you gotta go to Compton.
Speaker 4: Well not that far, but Florida.
Speaker 2: Well, you have to start. You can't start on a
Speaker 2: nice court.
Speaker 5: It has to be.
Speaker 2: Started in Compton.
Speaker 7: They all did come shout in the background, home evasions,
Speaker 7: things like that.
Speaker 2: Well, how's everyone's weak? Ben, I know we've seen each
Speaker 2: other constantly, but week is great. I feel like, uh,
Speaker 2: there's one thing we haven't heard. Our two dream Villians
Speaker 2: are still It's been days and they still look tired
Speaker 2: and hungover. Walking to Marus was taking a nap on
Speaker 2: the couch. She got home early last night.
Speaker 4: She was trying to catch up on her dreams.
Speaker 1: I did not get early last night. Why did you
Speaker 1: just make that up? It wasn't that late, right, It
Speaker 1: was eleven pm when I got home.
Speaker 2: A long right to sleep.
Speaker 5: You all went out last night?
Speaker 2: You dipped out? Oh yeah, we got We didn't go out,
Speaker 2: we just got food eleven pm. Like, that's that's a
Speaker 2: fair time to go to sleep. You can get your hours.
Speaker 1: I got home at eleven people with that photo of
Speaker 1: you smiling was from last night. No, the photo of
Speaker 1: him smiling was from our first company dinner.
Speaker 6: I was going to say, there's no way Rory wears
Speaker 6: a watch. I looked at the photo. I was like,
Speaker 6: he's got a watch on? When is this watch every
Speaker 6: now and then? Just not around you.
Speaker 1: Watch?
Speaker 5: I say, like in the photo, I was like, Rory
Speaker 5: has a watch on. That's odd.
Speaker 6: And I said this can't be from today because I
Speaker 6: figured you guys all went to dinner and I was
Speaker 6: confused if that was from like last night or we.
Speaker 7: Went to dinner. And then me and Sean dropped Sean
Speaker 7: at this hotel. That turned into two hours of us
Speaker 7: being downstairs at the bar doing another bottle of wine.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, of course, the one that he wanted to
Speaker 2: go by at the It.
Speaker 7: Was another one that we ended up going to the
Speaker 7: ball in the hotel. It was a nice bar and
Speaker 7: we sat there, it was just talking.
Speaker 4: I looked up.
Speaker 7: It was like one thirty in the more. I said, Fam,
Speaker 7: I'm out of here, bro.
Speaker 2: That's late for you. Yeah I was. And we went
Speaker 2: through a bottle of red wine.
Speaker 5: Not me asleep, long asleep before mall gets home.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, was in his red wine back last
Speaker 8: night at dinner.
Speaker 7: Yeoh, but yeah, I mean because I'll drink wine. But
Speaker 7: Sean is like, if I'm hanging with Sean, we about
Speaker 7: to do a bottle for sure.
Speaker 2: And it's going to be a bottle that's six hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: You can't say no to this. So and it's like
Speaker 2: the best red wine you've ever had? Yeah, right, So
Speaker 2: we sat there, can't say no to this, like two
Speaker 2: and a half hours just talking and did a bottle
Speaker 2: of wine.
Speaker 5: So it was cool.
Speaker 2: I feel bad And for those that do listen to
Speaker 2: our show, and this isn't your first time. We've talked
Speaker 2: about our good friend Sean Dickerson for a while, powder Puff,
Speaker 2: I can't. I feel bad every time he comes to
Speaker 2: the city or last time I was in La I
Speaker 2: was there for a week. He's like, Yo, why do
Speaker 2: you hit me? Because because I go to bed at ten.
Speaker 2: That's why I feel bad, I can't hang with you.
Speaker 7: And that's exactly why I hung out last night because
Speaker 7: the last few time Sean has been here, he'd text
Speaker 7: me hit me and didn't. Last night he was like, yo,
Speaker 7: I don't even hit you no more. I'm like, all right, man,
Speaker 7: I don't want to become that guy. So that's why
Speaker 7: I made sure we hung out. We kicked it, but
Speaker 7: we had a cool night.
Speaker 2: Well that was our crazy, crazy night. This week was
Speaker 2: a restaurant and then home. Yeah, these two though, from
Speaker 2: what I understand, shut Down the Garden is what I
Speaker 2: believe that was this week.
Speaker 5: It feels like it was so long ago.
Speaker 4: Such such a lifetime.
Speaker 2: It almost feels like a dream, doesn't it another dimension?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like when you think about it.
Speaker 2: So we recorded on Monday, which everyone has heard that
Speaker 2: episode by now. But after that, I went home ordered
Speaker 2: the J Cole stream, which I found out I didn't
Speaker 2: really need to pay for because I bought the audio experience.
Speaker 2: Happy those came together.
Speaker 4: I bundled.
Speaker 2: Saw people complaining that Cole was becoming a capitalist and
Speaker 2: everything that he fought against because he's charging everyone for
Speaker 2: his work, which to me, is odd, because that's what
Speaker 2: you do for your art. That's what you do. So
Speaker 2: I sat down, made myself some food, and I watched
Speaker 2: the stream from my couch. These two, on the other hand,
Speaker 2: thirty fourth Street shut down, police escort. Listen, y'all were
Speaker 2: so excited. Now you're dead quiet about this entire thing.
Speaker 5: You don't have any questions, like what do you want
Speaker 5: to I don't even know what to ask you.
Speaker 2: Guys left You left here excited, giddy, and then what happened?
Speaker 6: We let's start, Okay, we'll start from the We left here,
Speaker 6: went to mine. I made us a quick drink. We
Speaker 6: stopped my Whole Foods, bought some citrus.
Speaker 2: And then went to mine. We were a real couple
Speaker 2: of We were a real couple.
Speaker 6: We went grocery shopping, We had a drink of mine,
Speaker 6: and then she facetimed her mom. I said hi, And
Speaker 6: then we got on the train and went up to Misgi.
Speaker 2: So did we get there? Humble? You guys want to
Speaker 2: do the train and be with the people. The only
Speaker 2: time that you guys would actually be with the common folk.
Speaker 8: It's also the quickest way to get to thirty fourth Street.
Speaker 2: Guys just felt like no, let's go crazy. Let's just
Speaker 2: be with the regular folks and take the train.
Speaker 8: They were a bunch of cole fans like on the
Speaker 8: train with us too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 6: So we get to MSG and you know, Demarus does.
Speaker 6: I'm like neurotic with time, Like we got to get.
Speaker 2: There on time.
Speaker 5: Everything's got to be that.
Speaker 6: So doors are at seven, We're there at seven ten,
Speaker 6: which obviously we didn't need to be there, so but.
Speaker 2: I was like, look all they were still setting up
Speaker 2: the riser. All the guys, whoa, wha, whoa what what?
Speaker 2: Doors is at seven and you got this seven ten.
Speaker 2: Peoplen't even do that for Nicks games.
Speaker 6: Because I knew because this is my in my mind,
Speaker 6: and I'll explain why I'm glad we ended up getting
Speaker 6: there so early. In my mind, I was like, okay,
Speaker 6: everyone from LA from New York, from North Carolina, like
Speaker 6: all the Dreamville extended family fiends are all going to
Speaker 6: be at the show. I want that extended time to
Speaker 6: hang out with them, like whether it be on the riser,
Speaker 6: like in the green room, whatever it is. I want
Speaker 6: that time to like have the downtime and talk and
Speaker 6: like for us to just hang and get some drinks
Speaker 6: in just like chill. I don't mind doing that for
Speaker 6: two hours before he hits the stage. So we get there.
Speaker 6: I know he's going on at nine fifteen, so we
Speaker 6: get their crowdswell of like all the friends outside of
Speaker 6: will call no tickets, And I was like, all right,
Speaker 6: well they're still figuring it out. Let's go run it down.
Speaker 6: Forty five minutes go by, no tickets. De Mare's like,
Speaker 6: I'm hungry, I'm out here. I gotta go left. I
Speaker 6: left him, I'm gonna go across the street. So then
Speaker 6: my anxiety's like, well, fuck, they're gonna come down. Demara's
Speaker 6: gonna be gone. I'm gonna have to like rent. So
Speaker 6: then I get all these texts. I'm like all the
Speaker 6: guys like, bro, they're there. I don't know what to
Speaker 6: tell you. Like they had photos of my tickets being
Speaker 6: passed off. They're like, we don't know what to say.
Speaker 6: And it wasn't just me, it wasn't just ours, it
Speaker 6: was like a bunch of the guys. So then every
Speaker 6: ten to fifteen minutes they're bringing down like waves of tickets,
Speaker 6: handing them to the ticket office. And at this time,
Speaker 6: I've asked this guy nine times, Hey is my name there?
Speaker 6: And he's like knows me by this point, He's like, dude,
Speaker 6: I don't know what to tell you. And then you're
Speaker 6: just that And I've been that guy.
Speaker 2: I looked like lingering around the list line, like you
Speaker 2: know you're actually legit and there is a real plass,
Speaker 2: but you're appearing to be that guy that is trying
Speaker 2: to sing his way into a list that he is
Speaker 2: not on, and I'm trying comfortable. I'm trying my best
Speaker 2: not to. I didn't call.
Speaker 6: I didn't call like Maddie, I didn't call any of
Speaker 6: my guys because I was like, I'm sure they're dealing
Speaker 6: with so many other fires because I can also see
Speaker 6: everyone else in the panic around me.
Speaker 2: But I know we'll get in.
Speaker 6: It's just when I know my thing at this point,
Speaker 6: because now it's nine o'clock. We were there for two hours,
Speaker 6: Like I'm not missing this fucking show, and I don't
Speaker 6: want to miss the first song. I've already missed all
Speaker 6: the socializing and all the drinks we had in mine
Speaker 6: are worn off.
Speaker 5: I'm pissed off now sober.
Speaker 2: So looking at ig stories of the green room.
Speaker 6: I'm so still bowl I'm hot, but I'm like keeping
Speaker 6: it in and I'm only like complaining like my friends,
Speaker 6: which we're all complaining.
Speaker 2: Is Marus was texting me on the side by the way,
Speaker 2: and I was just sending her photos of me marinating
Speaker 2: steak and being warm and cozy in my house.
Speaker 5: Demrus did the right thing.
Speaker 4: I was like, listen, Van, you send a picture of
Speaker 4: the stream on the team.
Speaker 6: No, I did, Demarus. I will give Demarus for flowers. Obviously,
Speaker 6: like later in the night we had a great blast.
Speaker 6: But like at that time she knew, like she just
Speaker 6: did her thing and just like let stay out of it,
Speaker 6: because like if she came up with he's like, so,
Speaker 6: what's up, I wouldn't have done Like I wouldn't have
Speaker 6: like loaded on her, but I would have been like
Speaker 6: fuming inside.
Speaker 5: So she just knew.
Speaker 6: She was like I literally didn't see Demeris until so
Speaker 6: it's nine twenty five. Cole's already supposed to be out there,
Speaker 6: but he didn't go out yet. He was like a
Speaker 6: little late, or are you gonna say?
Speaker 2: Maybe that's how I know Jumeris is actually really my friend,
Speaker 2: because she would have been cursing me out that entire time.
Speaker 8: No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: She wouldn't have been on the side like calm, like
Speaker 2: let's let him do. She would be cursing me out. No,
Speaker 2: I'm bringing show.
Speaker 1: Not in the moment, because there's certain people I trust
Speaker 1: to handle certain things.
Speaker 8: If you were two men that I didn't know and
Speaker 8: it was.
Speaker 1: Like some guy trying to impress me, like oh my
Speaker 1: cause I've had that happen before that, I would have
Speaker 1: just left.
Speaker 8: I don't like, I don't, I don't do that. But
Speaker 8: what helped it a lot was that it was not just.
Speaker 1: Me and Julian standing in the lobby waiting for tickets,
Speaker 1: because that would have been crazy. There were like sixty
Speaker 1: of us at one point. It was so I found
Speaker 1: this It was not a Dreamville family and friends.
Speaker 5: With all the guys.
Speaker 6: It was like all my clothes, like even like some
Speaker 6: of the artists couldn't even get like they didn't have
Speaker 6: their tickets available either, which is like insane. So the
Speaker 6: engineer was out there with us, it was like, what
Speaker 6: has happened? So I knew it wasn't just like a
Speaker 6: me just my ticket thing.
Speaker 1: So ms he gave Sean like a pocket, which we
Speaker 1: talk about this later Patriot episode coming up. But they
Speaker 1: gave Sean like a pocket full of envelope full of
Speaker 1: like bands, like he had mad bands up his arm
Speaker 1: and then like they were.
Speaker 2: Like yeahs and shot yeah. They were like you need
Speaker 2: a ticket.
Speaker 8: He was like I don't.
Speaker 6: His envelope was a will call. They hand him a ticket.
Speaker 6: It had nine wristbands for his all his whole crew.
Speaker 6: And he gets to check in and they're like, where
Speaker 6: are your tickets? And he didn't have any, So then
Speaker 6: he had to wait with us band it up. He
Speaker 6: just could didn't have a ticket to get into the show.
Speaker 6: And if Sean can't get in, I know, I'm fine.
Speaker 6: Sean could quite literally get in anywhere. So we're over
Speaker 6: two hours in, over two hours in at this point
Speaker 6: and my my buddy comes running down. He just grabs it.
Speaker 6: He goes, I'm on the phone with him. He's like,
Speaker 6: I got you running out right now. He just gave
Speaker 6: me this envelope. I'm coming down to you. We're not
Speaker 6: even going to try to figure out what happened to
Speaker 6: your tickets. Hands him to Dumaric and I and he
Speaker 6: stays to settle like everyone else, it's still waiting. He
Speaker 6: goes just go because cale's about to go up. As
Speaker 6: soon as we get in the building, like it's super
Speaker 6: walking to go in the door, starting performing right inside
Speaker 6: to like the little vip riser thing that we stood
Speaker 6: on for the whole night. As soon as we get
Speaker 6: up there, song a song one starts and it was
Speaker 6: just like I made.
Speaker 4: That coal for y'all, told Cole listen wait for them
Speaker 4: to walk.
Speaker 2: It was all the anxiety, everything just like we had.
Speaker 2: We had the best location and you going through the
Speaker 2: turnst hell.
Speaker 7: We held the show. We held a sold out Madison
Speaker 7: Square guard waiting for y'all to get in.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: As soon as y'all walked in, lights went down.
Speaker 1: A show like that, though, And at one point I
Speaker 1: said this to Julian, I don't want as grateful as
Speaker 1: I am for the access that we have because of
Speaker 1: the people that we know. A show like that, I
Speaker 1: would rather be in Jim Pop because I was the
Speaker 1: loudest person on the riser. Everybody else is like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's family and friends, so they cool, they're chilling, like
Speaker 1: they're enjoying the show, but they're like watching Cole, I'm
Speaker 1: screaming every single We wrapped the entire of my lungs
Speaker 1: dancing acting up like there's a video of Sleepy Hollow
Speaker 1: literally looking at me like I have seventeen heads in
Speaker 1: the back, like just staring at me, like.
Speaker 2: The last name drop I would assume would be there
Speaker 2: doing badass. That checks out all that. I did not
Speaker 2: know you were next to Sleepy Hollow? I think, isn't
Speaker 2: he behind you in this? And he's in the video behind.
Speaker 1: The marriage staring at me like I have seventeen heads.
Speaker 1: Everybody on a riser was looking at me like I
Speaker 1: have seventeen heads.
Speaker 2: Any political conversations about what didn't he? Wasn't he one
Speaker 2: of the ones that went to the Bronx with Trump Hollow?
Speaker 8: That's funny?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Was he mad at a the George Bush dig that
Speaker 2: Cole has on whatever?
Speaker 4: Song?
Speaker 2: That is only real Cold fans?
Speaker 5: Six time platinum red.
Speaker 2: I think it was the single. Yeah, but we had
Speaker 2: I mean it was it was the best.
Speaker 6: And then after the show there was a after party
Speaker 6: at the venue, which we did that and then that
Speaker 6: was great, and then from there was the after after party,
Speaker 6: but then Demerius.
Speaker 5: Had to leave.
Speaker 1: I yeah, me and Julian like separated throughout the night
Speaker 1: because I ran into Rosie shout out to front of
Speaker 1: the show, Rosie.
Speaker 8: I ran into Rosie and I ended up at Pergola
Speaker 8: with Rosie.
Speaker 5: Which is good.
Speaker 2: I can't think of, like, if you were to list
Speaker 2: an entire night of what I wouldn't want to do,
Speaker 2: I think you checked every box. Yeah, from I ended
Speaker 2: up waiting for passes to Sleepy Hollow to Pergola. I
Speaker 2: think those would be my three nose on them.
Speaker 1: I met some nice North Carolina gentlemen. They were sweet,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, we went to the after party, and
Speaker 1: I did not know that Cole was there.
Speaker 8: I found that out the next day. But at that
Speaker 8: time I was cooked.
Speaker 2: I was, I was. I was no good too. If
Speaker 2: you and Cole had like cross paths in that small club,
Speaker 2: what would have been your like your intro? Would you
Speaker 2: have even initiated? There were small they bring they.
Speaker 6: Bring hooka everywhere, so they brought they brought hookah. It's
Speaker 6: a club actually my friend owns it. UH was on
Speaker 6: the Lower East Side and they brought hookah, and so
Speaker 6: you're in. Could have just been like forru fact I
Speaker 6: taught Ebe and Cole some hookah. I was, you're welcome. Really,
Speaker 6: I was so drunk, say you're welcome was crazy, Preston,
Speaker 6: that would.
Speaker 2: Have ever happened? Brought them that ten years ago. J
Speaker 2: Cole had to smoke houga. I taught him and Ebe
Speaker 2: how to pack a hookah.
Speaker 4: Ebe is I don't ee, that's like part of his culture.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you taught him how to.
Speaker 2: I promise you. Aristotle was right there too, and like,
Speaker 2: I can promise you, I.
Speaker 4: Just teaching Cole how to pack Hoogah's crazy.
Speaker 2: They knew how to put in and I actually forgot
Speaker 2: about that until he just said that had hookah there.
Speaker 2: That just sparked a memory in my brain. It wasn't
Speaker 2: so much they were packing it too tight, too much
Speaker 2: shisha in there. And then they weren't putting the foil
Speaker 2: around the coal as well. No, pun intended they couldn't
Speaker 2: really get it to light. I was like, you just
Speaker 2: put the coal around it. Rest is history. Look at
Speaker 2: his catalog now, yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 4: It's all.
Speaker 5: You can't even imagine if you didn't know how to
Speaker 5: pack that.
Speaker 6: I mean, would he written Forest Hills? If he didn't,
Speaker 6: I wouldn't even see the garden, wouldn't sniff it?
Speaker 2: This was this was pre born center man, wouldn't sniff
Speaker 2: the guard. I never would have been there, never would
Speaker 2: have made it, so you would have skipped like a
Speaker 2: head nod there was up yeah, out of smile, out
Speaker 2: of head, not in a smile. Would you call him
Speaker 2: Jermaine Maine?
Speaker 8: No, Maine.
Speaker 1: I actually have a cousin Jermain who I call him Maine?
Speaker 1: But no, okay, I would have just you know, head
Speaker 1: no hum. But I didn't.
Speaker 2: I had to go upload a stranger head nod and
Speaker 2: he was crazy a girl head no, and he was crazy.
Speaker 2: Imagine a girl just used to look at the girl.
Speaker 4: She goes, what the fuck is wrong.
Speaker 8: On know who I am?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Probably, but I don't know. In a dark club after performing,
Speaker 2: performing every song without taking a I'm just asking.
Speaker 1: I'm just asking how to call over bothering me. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he does. I'm just saying I wouldn't have.
Speaker 2: Now, you just say, you say you think cold will
Speaker 2: know me. That's what you just said. That's all I
Speaker 2: And then I asked, I said Cold knows you.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Could I just asked it was
Speaker 2: a question.
Speaker 8: Probably not no, though, right.
Speaker 2: He would have had nodded a nigga that just sold
Speaker 2: out the gardens. Also, the amount of wrapping he did
Speaker 2: on that stage without taking a fucking breath. He hit
Speaker 2: every single syllable word perfect and such an amazing performance.
Speaker 2: After letting out all that oxygen and then walking into
Speaker 2: a club dark club with Debt, he'd be like the mares. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I knew right away. I never said I you were there.
Speaker 4: I knew you were out there in the crowd.
Speaker 5: He did two face at the Garden, which is crazy
Speaker 5: that it was great.
Speaker 2: That was not did that the Garden was incredible. I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed Dollar in a dream. It was a really
Speaker 2: really good show and for someone that probably hasn't performed
Speaker 2: that stuff in ten years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thoroughly.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a really really at the as.
Speaker 6: I ended up leaving like three am. I got home,
Speaker 6: got the spins and threw up in my toilet and
Speaker 6: then passed out.
Speaker 2: You left after three?
Speaker 8: It was after definitely after three whatever time?
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I projectile vomit. I know, hohokah, But I had
Speaker 6: probably did you kiss that girl?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: How do you know? Because I didn't? How do you
Speaker 4: know you didn't kiss her?
Speaker 5: I didn't black out. I just threw up.
Speaker 2: I got the spins when I got home. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: yeah I saw he was, you know this is at
Speaker 2: the after party. Was getting a little rythm you guys.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I'm running my mouth my bad.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: Like I told the marriage, I was like, I love
Speaker 6: these guys, but they don't don't really bring women out like.
Speaker 2: That because most of them are in I know, committed
Speaker 2: relations I love because see when I said it last week,
Speaker 2: y'all screamed me out the room about what about Cole
Speaker 2: not bringing out no chicks at the show? Different about
Speaker 2: in the intimate after settings, they don't bring the whole
Speaker 2: is through. So if it's if it's an after party
Speaker 2: for my show and it's bad chicks at the show
Speaker 2: like Wiz did is.
Speaker 1: Because that was a super intimate that wasn't a you
Speaker 1: can just get in after party like he was.
Speaker 2: He ending out there was a wristband.
Speaker 8: For the party. Yeah, like it was that type of
Speaker 8: thing they gave.
Speaker 5: Us at MSG.
Speaker 2: And then we were like, yeah, but who's handing out
Speaker 2: the wristbands to hudo somebody in a committed relationships?
Speaker 6: This is how small the after after party was those
Speaker 6: wristbands for the after after party were handed out at
Speaker 6: the initial after party at MSG, so.
Speaker 1: Everybody that was at the original after party didn't even
Speaker 1: get a wrist band.
Speaker 8: It was like super It was not that many people
Speaker 8: in there.
Speaker 6: It was oh yes, and the club wasn't even open,
Speaker 6: It wasn't publicly open, was closed for the night, so
Speaker 6: it was literally just them like the crew, but no, no,
Speaker 6: no beautiful women. Well it's funny you say that because
Speaker 6: Demarrison I had a question we were saying when we
Speaker 6: were at my apartment. It was like Mary fuck kill Drake,
Speaker 6: women fans, Drake Kendrick.
Speaker 5: Cole.
Speaker 4: Did Odmars answered it.
Speaker 5: We both agreed, We.
Speaker 2: Botho what do you mean? We both agreed? When did
Speaker 2: you agree to that? In that quest? I want to
Speaker 2: hear your answers first, we have a very what do
Speaker 2: you want to hear? Immediately, He's on our side because
Speaker 2: of the perception of this podcast, I don't want to
Speaker 2: really say it exactly because it's going to come off
Speaker 2: as hate and it's not hate.
Speaker 7: Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, everybody, everybody slow down.
Speaker 2: What are we talking about right now? Mary kill, Drake Kendrick,
Speaker 2: women fans, women say like, listen, yeah, the we gonna
Speaker 2: talk about marrying or killing. That's why I'm trying to
Speaker 2: understand which'll that's I said, slow down, so I understand
Speaker 2: what y'all talking about. Cole is tall, So you're staying
Speaker 2: with women with women? Fans would say which women fans?
Speaker 5: Of the three? Would you fuck?
Speaker 2: Mary Kell? Okay? All right, so did did she? Did
Speaker 2: you answer that?
Speaker 8: Y'all need to answer that the easiest question.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to some people on the West Coast that
Speaker 2: are very sensitive and you can't say anything bad without
Speaker 2: everyone thinking that people hate the West Coast. I would
Speaker 2: marry Cole fans, I would fuck Drake fans, and I
Speaker 2: would kill Kendrick fans.
Speaker 1: But I feel like that's a no braak mall, you're up.
Speaker 1: That's probably the same fer no brainer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is there like another option where I don't have murder
Speaker 2: cost I don't want to be responsible for murdering women.
Speaker 2: You don't kill them. It's a hypothetical like maybe just
Speaker 2: send a nice text to say, hey, this isn't working
Speaker 2: out instead of killing.
Speaker 8: Okay, cool ghosting. Fuck marry ghosts, marry ghosts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, fuck Mary ghosts.
Speaker 2: But I feel like there's so much crossover between all
Speaker 2: three of those fan bases, So yeah, there are.
Speaker 6: But in the spirit of polarizing and choosing sides, why
Speaker 6: not do we have to do? We want to explain
Speaker 6: why we feel.
Speaker 1: That, the reason why we have, the reason how this
Speaker 1: conversation happened, not entirely, why not the reason why we
Speaker 1: had this conversation. It wasn't at your house. We were
Speaker 1: actually in line while we were waiting for the tickets
Speaker 1: to come down, and I looked around and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, somebody told me I look like a J.
Speaker 1: Cole fan, and I wanted to get in. I wanted
Speaker 1: to get offended, but I couldn't because I looked around
Speaker 1: and saw a bunch of.
Speaker 5: Me that were literally.
Speaker 2: Has a lot of pretty women fans a lot that
Speaker 2: we had the conversation. But now at the after party,
Speaker 2: the whole crew is married. So and it's a ten
Speaker 2: year anniversary. They're gonna be there with their wife wives.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they don't want no bitches around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that for sure, but Cole brings
Speaker 2: them out absolutely. I've been to countless Cold shows, even
Speaker 2: Dreamville Fest. They're there.
Speaker 6: Okay, So why would we marry Cole fans, fuck Drake
Speaker 6: fans and ghost Kendrick fans.
Speaker 4: I think I'm ready to switch though, because I've been
Speaker 4: to a couple of Drake shows. It was some badges.
Speaker 2: Did there's a bunch of bad Yeah, a bunch of
Speaker 2: nobody would ever fight you. I've been to Kendrick shows
Speaker 2: and there's bad bitches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 2: So what are you gonna switch? You want to marry
Speaker 2: the Drake fans. I think I saw two girls at
Speaker 2: a Drake show that I probably would have married. Mm hmm,
Speaker 2: as Cole would say, only they don't want to be saved.
Speaker 2: Only been to one Kendrick show and I was in
Speaker 2: was in the suite together.
Speaker 4: Si.
Speaker 2: Oh Yeah, I couldn't really see what was in the crowd. Yeah,
Speaker 2: You're right, we couldn't. But I've been to Kendrick shows
Speaker 2: where they're they're there. There is a lot of crossover
Speaker 2: between Cole fans and Kendrick fans. That's why it's kind
Speaker 2: of an unfair question. But if someone had to die, we.
Speaker 8: Literally changed the ghost and you're still trying to kill them.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be the King fans the key and he
Speaker 2: checked all right?
Speaker 4: Click here let them say he's glazing for what.
Speaker 8: The crazy thing is.
Speaker 2: On the West Side fans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if we were to call a dude from the
Speaker 1: West Side, he would say, Mary Ken Drake.
Speaker 5: I do I do?
Speaker 2: I know some of them, they don't say that. They
Speaker 2: definitely don't. Nah, I'm telling you they don't. I'm telling
Speaker 2: you they do not I know, So I can't say it.
Speaker 2: I can't say that, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like the guys I know from the West Side,
Speaker 1: like the around the way guys I know from the
Speaker 1: West Side, they would they would marry a Kendrick Fan.
Speaker 2: Way Man, who do you think the friend married? What
Speaker 2: was six?
Speaker 4: So go with Drake fans?
Speaker 1: Mary like if she had and I'm not just talking
Speaker 1: about the casuals Drake fan, I'm like, if she had
Speaker 1: to stand an artists and the artist she stands the
Speaker 1: way that I stand.
Speaker 8: Cole was Drake.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna add some stipulations. What type of Drake
Speaker 2: fan are we talking? You know, because I think that's
Speaker 2: unfair because Cole and Drake came out when I was
Speaker 2: in college, and it was a lot of college women
Speaker 2: like them because they were rapping about college shit. Inflatable,
Speaker 2: and a lot of those women went on to be
Speaker 2: amazing career women, beautiful wifey material. But then Drake took
Speaker 2: this crazy pivot of super fucking stardom where all the
Speaker 2: club rats started loving him too. So what there is
Speaker 2: a balance of Drake. There's the day ones and not
Speaker 2: to I think they are, but I'm not sure are
Speaker 2: we Is that who we're talking about or are we
Speaker 2: talking about the whrrores. There's nothing wrong with horror fans
Speaker 2: put it like this, say buy tickets too these what's
Speaker 2: wrong with these two? Don't do that?
Speaker 8: You know, don't do that.
Speaker 6: I'm saying that sleep with both of those in the
Speaker 6: hypothetic goal. Yes, that's what I said. I would fuck them.
Speaker 6: That checks out.
Speaker 2: No, what I'm saying you wouldn't want to marry them?
Speaker 2: Are they You don't even know that, Like nineteen, I
Speaker 2: don't even know who that is talkers that he got
Speaker 2: for this video. But my point is this era.
Speaker 6: I'm bringing them up to say, this era of Drake fan,
Speaker 6: not the college ones that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Okay, well then I think that's a little unfair.
Speaker 8: But Morgan walland fans peach he is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's in the beginning at the dinner scene. Oh,
Speaker 5: I didn't know that?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 8: Morgan Wiland like a racist?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, cool, it makes country. Pa said he's misunderstood.
Speaker 2: So what was What was everyone's favorite part of the night.
Speaker 4: I love yours.
Speaker 1: No, I get off my dick. But I knew that
Speaker 1: that was going That was when I cried. And I
Speaker 1: have myself on video crying to get off. I cried
Speaker 1: to get off my dick.
Speaker 5: What are you going through?
Speaker 2: Are you okay? No, get off my dick. He made
Speaker 2: you cry.
Speaker 1: It's not the song, it's the fact that that's one
Speaker 1: of my favorite j Cole songs.
Speaker 8: It's definitely my favorite on that album. Like, that's my
Speaker 8: favorite jac Coles and I've never heard him performing live, so.
Speaker 4: All right, But the tears, Why are the tears though?
Speaker 8: Because I was happy?
Speaker 2: They're happy tears. Listen. You shouldn't judge because you were
Speaker 2: the polar opposite. When I've been on a riser with you,
Speaker 2: I think there's I'm looking at. There should be somewhere
Speaker 2: in the middle. You guys are the polar opposites of
Speaker 2: each other. Crying and get off my dick is hilarious,
Speaker 2: but also standing stoic while amazing things are happening right
Speaker 2: in front of your face on a riser, should like
Speaker 2: bring some type of emotion I'm watching the show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but like at least raise an eyebrow.
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be jumping up and down while.
Speaker 1: Especially when you get off my dick place. He literally says,
Speaker 1: from the window to the wall. You should have went
Speaker 1: from window to.
Speaker 5: Wall, got a point.
Speaker 2: Which which window is?
Speaker 7: Have you never pointed from the window to the wall
Speaker 7: the day of my fucking life from the window to
Speaker 7: the wall.
Speaker 2: Think you think I've done that? No, I've never done
Speaker 2: that from the window to the wall.
Speaker 5: How old were you?
Speaker 2: There's no windows in the MSG. Let's start like skybox.
Speaker 2: What were you pointing that? There's You was pointing at
Speaker 2: Patrick Ewan's jersey, and then you pointed at the Stanley Ranges. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you pointed at banners.
Speaker 8: That ship was so packed that it felt small.
Speaker 2: It was intimate.
Speaker 1: It felt very small because I went and saw we
Speaker 1: saw Sissa. We didn't, but I saw Sissa at the Garden.
Speaker 1: I saw Janet at the Garden. Recently, I've been to
Speaker 1: a couple of shows at the Garden, but they didn't
Speaker 1: feel it felt small. I don't know, it's hard to explain.
Speaker 1: Like that ship was packed.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw a lot of great artists, basketball player,
Speaker 6: it was just it was just like a mixture of
Speaker 6: just like good people.
Speaker 4: That's good man. I'm glad you had it.
Speaker 6: And and obviously solidifies that Cole is the best rapper
Speaker 6: out of New York.
Speaker 2: He is a New York rapper. Definitely King of New York,
Speaker 2: King of New York. We've had this conversation on the
Speaker 2: pace before and after MSG I saw Twitter taking because
Speaker 2: I'm explaining it, let's address. I'm trying to explain to you.
Speaker 2: Do you think Jay Cole is the King of New York?
Speaker 2: The King of New York? Is crazy. I've said for
Speaker 2: I've said for years though that we claim col Cole,
Speaker 2: we can claim I feel no, we can't. Why would
Speaker 2: the Saint John's his entire career was in New York.
Speaker 4: Is here.
Speaker 2: He doesn't claim New York. His entire team is from here.
Speaker 4: He does not claim New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does claim that, he claims New York, New York.
Speaker 1: He he reps queens so hard. He always has.
Speaker 2: He even said January twenty eight, doesn't even say yeah,
Speaker 2: I said, son, I'm from New York like he Yeah,
Speaker 2: his life really started here. As far as his career
Speaker 2: in adulthood, yeah, I don't know if Cole reps. He
Speaker 2: records a lot here.
Speaker 1: He he's definitely spent a lot of someone like he
Speaker 1: he really fucks with. He's always been like that.
Speaker 2: And like he wasn't an artist that moved to New
Speaker 2: York and then went to Greenpoint or Williamsburg or lived
Speaker 2: in Turtle Bay, like he lived in Jamaica Queens for
Speaker 2: most of his life. I think that gives we can
Speaker 2: claim him.
Speaker 5: And he still lives here.
Speaker 2: He still live here. Only rapper in New York that stayed,
Speaker 2: including the ones that were born here.
Speaker 4: So why he do a festival here?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean he's home.
Speaker 6: Hometown versus where you like become an artist are two
Speaker 6: different things. And on top of that, why there by
Speaker 6: the artist stream and like the beginning of his career
Speaker 6: is New York.
Speaker 1: And not even just that, why would you bring New
Speaker 1: York has so much where he's from doesn't have ship
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna bring back to my hometown.
Speaker 2: Which isn't even hometown by the way, Well, it's a
Speaker 2: completely different city. I know, but it's close enough. It's
Speaker 2: actually not that close at all.
Speaker 5: It's in the state.
Speaker 8: It's like two hours away.
Speaker 1: But it's like, let me bring something down here, because
Speaker 1: they don't really have ship down here. Why would I
Speaker 1: bring something to New York, New York because everything that's
Speaker 1: not fair.
Speaker 5: I respect what he did with the hour away. That's
Speaker 5: not bad at all.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's I don't think it's crazy
Speaker 1: for us to claim co I just feel like if
Speaker 1: because the South don't claim him because he doesn't rap
Speaker 1: like a Southern rapper.
Speaker 2: He wraps like a New York rapper. I don't do
Speaker 2: that because there's rappers in the South that rap like
Speaker 2: New York rappers.
Speaker 6: I think it's less about his voice and tone and lyrics.
Speaker 6: I think it's just about where he stay. Where he stays,
Speaker 6: like where his career flourished.
Speaker 2: Like him him performing Climba, which is one of his
Speaker 2: first records ever before signed Anything to Say, I wrote
Speaker 2: this in Jamaica. Queens like a lot of it. His
Speaker 2: career is just based off where he was, how he
Speaker 2: wraps his entire crew. To this day, he's just surrounded
Speaker 2: by a bunch of queens.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 2: I feel like, I feel like if Khalid is allowed
Speaker 2: to say he's from Miami, Cole can claim New York,
Speaker 2: same exact situation. They made their bones in career in
Speaker 2: that city, they defined their sound from that city. There
Speaker 2: that city, But Kalid is from New Orleans, born and raised,
Speaker 2: doesn't even talk about it. Ye says he's from the
Speaker 2: three zero five, and no one cares because he did
Speaker 2: so much for Miami and really made his career there.
Speaker 2: DJ Drama reps Philly for sure. If you ask him
Speaker 2: where you're from, he will say Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, no matter what.
Speaker 2: But he's from Atlanta.
Speaker 5: He's Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I think Drama Atlanta Philly is the same with Cole
Speaker 2: in North Carolina and Queens.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think more people identify Cole with being from Carolina, though,
Speaker 7: like repping Carolina.
Speaker 2: Because people he's like people side of New York.
Speaker 4: Would never say that, like he's New York. They would
Speaker 4: never say that.
Speaker 2: Fair, But if you look at his career, I think
Speaker 2: at this point it is safe to say it wasn't
Speaker 2: like a phase where he was two years out of
Speaker 2: college and was just staying in New York because that's
Speaker 2: where he was, and the Rock Nation office was here,
Speaker 2: and then the whole industry moved to LA and he
Speaker 2: went to l A. He has stayed in Queens since
Speaker 2: he's been in Saint John's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, king of New York, I'm not King of New York.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna go that far. But we weren't joking
Speaker 2: about that. But not getting made.
Speaker 8: Jay is still the King of New York.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about like a current like now, well.
Speaker 1: But me and you had a cool A king has
Speaker 1: to die for the new king to be crowned. Jay
Speaker 1: is still very much kicking and alive. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: kingdom gets passed down. The king has to die and
Speaker 1: then the crown gets passed down.
Speaker 2: Not necessarily, that works that way. And they had every
Speaker 2: single legend crown Kendrick, the King of La. They were
Speaker 2: all there. They put the ship on his neck. Who's
Speaker 2: the king in the South? H T I said he was.
Speaker 6: I was literally about to say. I can only think
Speaker 6: since he was the most vocal about it, he proved
Speaker 6: it afterwards.
Speaker 2: I really feel like he's still the king because he
Speaker 2: hasn't his future want to even put that in the air,
Speaker 2: but because he's still alive, still the king. It's fruiture,
Speaker 2: but I still he said that, like, yes, it's future,
Speaker 2: it's furniture.
Speaker 5: Furn furniture.
Speaker 2: So is Snoop still the king of l A.
Speaker 8: No, Kendrick is now the king.
Speaker 2: So you guys are going against your exactly. That's why
Speaker 2: I brought it up.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 8: But for New York you gotta die.
Speaker 2: Jay Z live in l A. So who more New
Speaker 2: York color? J I'm just saying, you feel me, Like,
Speaker 2: what are you saying?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: We just be saying anything. Hold from Trenton, Man, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Oh my god, though, see is it's why
Speaker 2: they got to cut the mics off.
Speaker 1: But I don't think we have a current active like
Speaker 1: y'all would have to give it to fucking uh Cash Cobain.
Speaker 1: Then who the fuck is active in New York right now?
Speaker 1: Who's active in New York right now?
Speaker 2: I'll come up with it since you've got answer, So
Speaker 2: we're bringing up a pretty good point of that's okay.
Speaker 2: There's no current people that would be labeled king are
Speaker 2: not retired per se, but are not as active as usual.
Speaker 2: Nikki might be the most active of the older legends.
Speaker 2: If you go down to the young kids, Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: tough to say who quote quote unquote would be the king.
Speaker 2: I think at one point for the younger kids, a
Speaker 2: Boogie held that, but I feel like he's been a
Speaker 2: little unactive lately. I don't would it be Cash Cobain
Speaker 2: for the last two years today? Who is it? Your opinion?
Speaker 2: It definitely would have been Poppy? First of all? What
Speaker 2: is the criteria for the crown of somebody king of
Speaker 2: a city? Podcast?
Speaker 1: I didn't say it, okay, yeah, yeah right, somebody that's
Speaker 1: running running the city musically?
Speaker 8: Who if you go out you can't not hear them.
Speaker 2: I think that's unfair thing though, on someone that just
Speaker 2: like had a good two years. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I feel like you have to be ten years in minimum.
Speaker 8: I don't feel like ten.
Speaker 1: I feel like five five minimum in this dad age
Speaker 1: five five continually, Like you're successful all five years?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: And your five albums five years or like two albums
Speaker 2: five years? What are we talking there?
Speaker 8: Three albums five years?
Speaker 2: Okay? In this day and age, I wouldn't be mad
Speaker 2: at that. With how quick ship comes in ghosts, that's
Speaker 2: that's a long career in this day and age. But
Speaker 2: who has done that, that's been dominating. People have made
Speaker 2: good music in New York for the last five years.
Speaker 4: I mean it would have to be Jay Naz and
Speaker 4: Nikki as far as I'm consumed.
Speaker 2: NAS has been the most active. Actually, I take it back.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, like, who's my king? Well, we
Speaker 2: know why Cole can't be King of New York. But no,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying in any way Cole can be King
Speaker 2: of New York. I'm just saying I think we can
Speaker 2: claim him at this point.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm not mad at that, but people outside of
Speaker 7: New York would never say that. I think that's a
Speaker 7: New York name because we know he's been If we.
Speaker 2: Were to do Top five New York Rappers or Top
Speaker 2: ten or whatever, I don't think Cold would be allowed
Speaker 2: to be on the board.
Speaker 7: But this is what I'm saying, So how can he
Speaker 7: How can we claim him? You can't even put him
Speaker 7: on the top ten Rappers out of New York right now, Liz,
Speaker 7: because it's not from New York. So how can we
Speaker 7: claim him if we can't even if we put a
Speaker 7: list together right now, top ten rappers from New York
Speaker 7: out of New.
Speaker 2: York from New York. Okay, top ten rappers in New York,
Speaker 2: you can't put. I would say if the average the
Speaker 2: average hip hop fan, let me not say average above
Speaker 2: average hip hop fan. If you ask them their favorite
Speaker 2: New York producers ever, or producers that define the New
Speaker 2: York's sound, they would say DJ Premiere.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Most people, where's DJ Premier from Texas? Most people don't
Speaker 2: even fucking know that, They think he's New York. I
Speaker 2: was like twenty when I found out he was what's
Speaker 2: in from New York City? I just assumed he was
Speaker 2: Brooklyn through and through. I think Cole is similar in
Speaker 2: that regard to his sound is very much New York.
Speaker 2: He is defined by it now, lived here most of
Speaker 2: his life. Him and DJ Premire, I think are similar there.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if I've ever seen Jake Cole
Speaker 2: say I'm from New York. He's never said he's from
Speaker 2: New York because he's so How can how can we
Speaker 2: how can we claim him if he's never if he's
Speaker 2: never even since there's no rules, we just do it.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well that's the case.
Speaker 8: It's like have I don't know? It's okay, Like I
Speaker 8: just can't.
Speaker 4: See us saying, yeah, colds from here, Like, what's you
Speaker 4: won't even say that?
Speaker 2: What's the bonus record on Born Center with fifty and
Speaker 2: j Cole?
Speaker 5: New York Times?
Speaker 2: Come on, man, yeah, two New York rappers New York Times.
Speaker 2: Can we pull up the lyrics that?
Speaker 8: Yeah, it is so funny.
Speaker 1: We just claimed him as like it's like a transplant
Speaker 1: that moved here when they were thirteen.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they might be, Ohio.
Speaker 5: Read the opening.
Speaker 2: It's really for queens though, really for queens though. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you if you met a girl who moved
Speaker 1: here when she was twelve years old, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: tell her that she don't have ties to New York
Speaker 1: if she lived here.
Speaker 8: Her whole lot.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Queen's Bridge than you do. Said, Cole
Speaker 2: has more shooters in Queen's Bridge than you do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it's quoting Jay Z for the nerds.
Speaker 4: I get it, And I know Cole has spent a
Speaker 4: lot of years in New York City.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 4: But when you say we can claim him, I just
Speaker 4: don't know if that works like that.
Speaker 2: Look at the first the only the only reason why
Speaker 2: we're trying to convince you right now is not because
Speaker 2: we care that much, is because we need it. We
Speaker 2: just don't that much. I mean, like, if we can
Speaker 2: take Cole under our wing off of technicality, why don't
Speaker 2: we I feel you, I feel you.
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that, but I don't know man.
Speaker 2: So with that said, now that we all agree is
Speaker 2: he is he top top ten New York wrapper of
Speaker 2: all time, of all time?
Speaker 4: Can't put him on that list. He's not New York.
Speaker 4: You can't put him on that list.
Speaker 2: Well, either way, I really enjoyed the show. I liked
Speaker 2: him going down memory lane. Love that, like Mohammad's house
Speaker 2: has become like a an adjective or now and or
Speaker 2: whatever if that would mean you watch the stream?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: Did you watch it?
Speaker 5: It was well shot.
Speaker 6: Obviously we were there, so I didn't watch in the moment,
Speaker 6: but in retrospect when I was home the next morning,
Speaker 6: there was a lot of clips on Twitter and it
Speaker 6: was like really beautifully produced.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 7: I mean the crowd looked great, like you know, love
Speaker 7: yours with all the phones cameras out. You know, it's
Speaker 7: one of those you had to be there moments I get.
Speaker 2: I mean you didn't really have to, but if you
Speaker 2: were there. That's cool, beautiful moment. You have an issue
Speaker 2: with people doing the light camera thing.
Speaker 4: No, I think that's dope, especially when you have a
Speaker 4: packed arena like that like that. It looks great.
Speaker 2: Did he cry it all?
Speaker 8: I don't remember. I don't know I cried. I don't
Speaker 8: remember him crying.
Speaker 2: She cried for the both of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't cry.
Speaker 8: I thought I would have almost Love yours.
Speaker 7: Wait wait wait, wait, wait, slow down. Everybody you thought
Speaker 7: you was gonna cry to Ja koleshow.
Speaker 6: Because I said, if I see Demeris cry, I would
Speaker 6: probably cry.
Speaker 1: But he couldn't try to get off my dick. So
Speaker 1: I was crying to get off my dick, and I
Speaker 1: don't think he could bring himself to cry again, I.
Speaker 5: Wasn't gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never gonna go all right.
Speaker 4: So what song would have made you cry doing?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just thought it would have happened at some point.
Speaker 2: Love yours for sure. I mean, if there were to
Speaker 2: be a song that you I think you were probably
Speaker 2: fighting them back at that time. I was.
Speaker 5: I wasn't even that.
Speaker 6: Drunk at that point, nah, I was just like hat.
Speaker 6: I think it was just like overcome with joy, but
Speaker 6: not like in a crying way.
Speaker 1: I was hammered by by two thirty am. I was
Speaker 1: fucking oh after after I got fucked I literally was
Speaker 1: stumbling around the Lower east Side by myself. I'm such
Speaker 1: a walking lick, stumbling around the Lower east Side by
Speaker 1: myself with a fucking seven hundred dollars camera in my pocket.
Speaker 8: Nice locked out the studio.
Speaker 2: But you know, life is like somebody texted me during
Speaker 2: the show that j Cole dresses like a West Coast dyke,
Speaker 2: and I couldn't get it out of my head for
Speaker 2: the rest of the show. Who text you at? I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you? And I know you guys won't laugh
Speaker 2: at that because it's a dig at Coal, but I
Speaker 2: laughed out loud.
Speaker 5: That is funny.
Speaker 2: It's okay to laugh at Cole for certain things.
Speaker 8: I laughed easily.
Speaker 2: A human as well. We're allowed to make jokes as well.
Speaker 2: We just complimented him for forty one minutes, is king.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I'm glad. I had a great time and
Speaker 7: shout out told a dream Villa. Shout out to Jake
Speaker 7: Cole on an amazing show. Congrats to Madison Square Guard.
Speaker 7: Shout out to team Great night.
Speaker 2: The real story though, I don't know if it was
Speaker 2: at the Gardener or it was at Barclay Center. Mariah
Speaker 2: Carey did a Christmas show and I didn't see one
Speaker 2: fucking ad. Was that like an invite only I.
Speaker 8: Think it was.
Speaker 6: Well, Rihanna was there, get her titty signed. So probably
Speaker 6: no that they remember we talked about. She did like
Speaker 6: a four or five arena. She's doing the tour right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I even realize that was in New York.
Speaker 2: I thought ye had like some Vegas residency. Shit, Well,
Speaker 2: she did a show. Rihanna was there, got her titty signed.
Speaker 2: They were singing fucking jingle bells. I was jealous. This
Speaker 2: is what I would I really got.
Speaker 4: FuMO for Yeah, I would want to go see Santa.
Speaker 2: I would address this was my idea, like how you
Speaker 2: took amor this is Santa Mariah got You would sit
Speaker 2: on her lap for a photo Mariah and yeah, oh
Speaker 2: tell her what you wanted for Christmas?
Speaker 4: Everything on my list was Nick in the building, Key
Speaker 4: Nick Cannon, Nick Cannon.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm I'm sure her kids want to see, Like,
Speaker 2: isn't that part of parenting? Didn't wanted her to get
Speaker 2: this done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was like, ACEP sent me over here to
Speaker 1: get my titty sign and Mariah was like, what do
Speaker 1: you want me to write? She said, Maria, you think
Speaker 1: like she was like, I'm a huge fan.
Speaker 2: The celebrities still like sign autographs. This is cool. I
Speaker 2: hope this becomes a thing.
Speaker 8: I think she I'm sure I think she only signed it.
Speaker 2: Because it was Oh, of course, only because it was Rihanna.
Speaker 1: Well, no, actually they had a sharpie on them, so
Speaker 1: they probably were signing autographs.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought she was like walking off stage at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 1: She was, but I'm saying they had a shut like
Speaker 1: Mariah's crew had a sharpie with them, so that means
Speaker 1: that she was probably about to conscient autographs. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was heartbroken that I missed that. I can't believe that
Speaker 1: I missed that. That's saying her for real.
Speaker 7: How does Mariah sound? Is she sounding better live now?
Speaker 7: Because I know at one point she wasn't sounding too good.
Speaker 2: Love There was one like Morning Show or Today's show
Speaker 2: that they kind of caught her vocals and before they
Speaker 2: could be deleted for the West Coast or whatever, and
Speaker 2: it didn't sound great. But I'm sure I think that
Speaker 2: she she.
Speaker 1: Just doesn't have the ability to hit the ranges that
Speaker 1: she used to hit. I'm sure that you know, Mariah
Speaker 1: used to sing in a very all that whistle register. Shit,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that that's affected her vocal course over time.
Speaker 1: So I don't think that she can go as high
Speaker 1: as she used to.
Speaker 2: And if she's you know, she works once a year now,
Speaker 2: which is fine. She had an incredible career and just
Speaker 2: does Christmas. You're not practicing singing, staying in vocal shape,
Speaker 2: that's that's tough, the way she sings. But I'm sure
Speaker 2: because she announced a bunch of arena shows she was
Speaker 2: practicing in fucking August.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I would like to see Maria. I never
Speaker 4: seen Marik carry love.
Speaker 2: First concert ever me either. She hadn't seen her since
Speaker 2: the heartbreaker to her.
Speaker 4: I saw Janet Lives a couple of times, never seen Mariah.
Speaker 1: Jenna is still U not sick. I just want everybody
Speaker 1: to give her her flowers. Janet still doesn't use she
Speaker 1: uses background vocals, but not like Jenna still sings. She
Speaker 1: doesn't lip sing. She's still like when I want to
Speaker 1: see her live, she was still singing, and I know
Speaker 1: that she was singing because I know I studied Jenna Jackson.
Speaker 1: She was actually singing still and she doesn't have the
Speaker 1: strongest voice in the world.
Speaker 8: But she's still dancing and singing and she's like fifty something.
Speaker 2: Random with shout out to Cole's background singers, those women
Speaker 2: that they kept showing on the stream they were they
Speaker 2: were singing, sanging that they were incredible. Those were some
Speaker 2: of the best background singers I've ever heard. At arena show,
Speaker 2: they said that band was great too. Let's stay on music.
Speaker 2: Though we are recording this on Thursday, December nineteenth. December twentieth,
Speaker 2: we are supposed to get the SOS Deluxe, which is
Speaker 2: also Lana, which is a completely different album. I think
Speaker 2: we should just call this a whole other album. I
Speaker 2: get it, with the streaming games and everything, it's got
Speaker 2: to be a deluxe and this is the new world
Speaker 2: that we have to accept. But I'm going into this
Speaker 2: with unfair expectations that this is a his album, not
Speaker 2: an SOS Deluxe, not songs that maybe could have made it.
Speaker 2: If you're calling it Lana, I have expectations for an album.
Speaker 2: Is that unfair?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 4: What do you mean you said this is a album.
Speaker 2: Of course his album is it's the SOS Deluxe, that
Speaker 2: would still be a his album.
Speaker 8: He means a new album, yeah.
Speaker 5: Like not not associated with es.
Speaker 2: Like if she were to say, okay, because on the
Speaker 2: fifth anniversary of Control, she put out the Controlled Deluxe,
Speaker 2: which was really cool, a bunch of references and ship
Speaker 2: they didn't make it, which plenty of artists have done
Speaker 2: in the streaming era. You do a deluxe so you
Speaker 2: can get more streams on the album and get people
Speaker 2: to revisit it. It's a strategy that I fully understand,
Speaker 2: but I've never seen someone call a deluxe a different name.
Speaker 2: So to me, this should fall in her desography as
Speaker 2: Control SOS than Lana No, and does it.
Speaker 7: When it's a deluxe, does it usually take I mean
Speaker 7: I could be wrong. The SOS came out two years ago, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean she did her Control Deluxe five
Speaker 2: years later, the five year anniversary what right? Yeah, five
Speaker 2: anniversary is different, but not there's still artists. There's some
Speaker 2: artists that do that shit like the next week, but
Speaker 2: there's some artists that wait it see as Lana.
Speaker 7: And SOS Deluxe, So it's probably it's probably enough new
Speaker 7: songs when they put to be a new album as well.
Speaker 7: I don't think it's only gonna be like five new songs.
Speaker 2: Does that? I mean, this is like weird fan nit
Speaker 2: picky shit, But does that like kind of bother you
Speaker 2: a little bit? Because I feel like Sizza, I get
Speaker 2: why a lot of artists do the deluxe Again, like
Speaker 2: the point I just made of having fans go back
Speaker 2: to an album and stream it more, I don't think
Speaker 2: Sissy needs to do that type of shit. Whatsoever. She's
Speaker 2: going to sell and say no matter what, and rightfully so,
Speaker 2: I don't think she needs to be under the control
Speaker 2: of some of these streaming games and all that other shit.
Speaker 2: And if you have an album, which I'm always confident
Speaker 2: that Sissa is going to deliver an incredible fucking album,
Speaker 2: and you're calling it Lana, which is your government name, Yeah,
Speaker 2: just do a new.
Speaker 4: Album or attach a new album to the whole album.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I'm I'm I'm not going with the
Speaker 2: times and adapted and we do it should just be control,
Speaker 2: SOS and Lana all in one playlist at this point.
Speaker 8: I mean, I actually wouldn't complain, but.
Speaker 2: I'm extremely excited. I think it's perfect time of the
Speaker 2: year for a Sissa album. I'm they were crying, I
Speaker 2: get off my dick. But I am in the perfect
Speaker 2: space to cry to a Sissa album. I'm going to
Speaker 2: go for a walk tomorrow, same way I did when
Speaker 2: SOS came out. And I hope it's.
Speaker 4: Overcast Seattle tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Let's check the weather for tomorrow. Should we do a
Speaker 2: quick trip Seattle.
Speaker 4: Let's go to Seattle.
Speaker 8: Quick trip to Seattle.
Speaker 2: It's going to rain tomorrow. Yes, you know what I
Speaker 2: think I might.
Speaker 4: A're you going to go outside and just like lay
Speaker 4: down in a T shirt the water hit you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't even think I'll
Speaker 2: put a raincoat on, you know, just I think I'll
Speaker 2: just I'll just walk out a T shirt and just
Speaker 2: really accept these bars.
Speaker 4: Except just just just appreciate the work of Lana.
Speaker 2: Let let the precipitation go into my pores as if
Speaker 2: the lyrics are flowing.
Speaker 4: I have to live inside of the music.
Speaker 6: So it says your scissor wrote over one hundred songs
Speaker 6: for the Originals. So I remember her saying that, however
Speaker 6: many albums I wait over for that, and then she
Speaker 6: put out a teaser, so far, The only visual outside
Speaker 6: of the album artwork is a teaser with Ben Steeler.
Speaker 4: For the She wrote one hundred songs for SOS. Yeah crazy.
Speaker 6: This is probably a collection of those a lot of
Speaker 6: years that it does check out over five years.
Speaker 2: We can't didn't get I already love Drive. But who's
Speaker 2: a better nepo? Baby JANEA Jackson or Ben Stiller? Nice
Speaker 2: to me?
Speaker 8: Stupid fucking questions? Who thought to put Ben Stiller?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 8: I love Ben Stiller, I haven't seen him in so long?
Speaker 2: Who thought?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 8: Whose brain was like Ben Stiller?
Speaker 2: Isn't it for everyone knows? Punch is a really really
Speaker 2: big Meet the Parents fan? Oh really coming, asshole?
Speaker 5: Isn't he working on something? Is it like a part
Speaker 5: of Well?
Speaker 2: Sissa has a movie coming out that is ben Stiller producers.
Speaker 2: I think it was a Severance type promo. He's involved
Speaker 2: with Severing. He directed Severance. But I think Ben Siller
Speaker 2: also may be a producer on the movie that Sissa
Speaker 2: is coming out with.
Speaker 8: Well, I know Ray is in charge of it. I
Speaker 8: don't know if Ben Stiller has anything to do with it.
Speaker 2: Well, either way, I mean it works. She always gets
Speaker 2: an actor to just do a cameo for she Got
Speaker 2: Moaning in Clubhouse? Uh Lakeith Keith, Keith the last one,
Speaker 2: and I mean one hundred songs. I usually hate long albums,
Speaker 2: but SOS proved me wrong. Every song on there is
Speaker 2: like not a skip to me. It's perfect with the
Speaker 2: amount of songs that it is. So if Sisson wants
Speaker 2: to add thirty five on the Lana, I'm not gonna complain.
Speaker 4: SOS is a great album man, incredible way.
Speaker 2: And when I saw how many records it was, I
Speaker 2: was like, oh god, no, go back to control of
Speaker 2: just fucking eleven records. Every song is fire. I get
Speaker 2: why every record stayed on there?
Speaker 4: What was that? What's the name? Gone Girl?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 7: I told my crying Julian that played Gone Girl at
Speaker 7: one thirty and watched me turn into a little dove.
Speaker 2: Would you would you judge me?
Speaker 4: Dove?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 2: Actually, would you judge me if I said that Gone
Speaker 2: Girl is my go to shower song?
Speaker 4: No, I would tell you.
Speaker 2: And the acoustics in my bathroom is pretty good, so
Speaker 2: actually sound better than I usually would with it echoing it.
Speaker 4: You shampool yourself too?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, The conditioner stays in for I keep gone girl
Speaker 2: on loop. It's like three times and then I know,
Speaker 2: get that good leather with all the hair that I have.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm more excited than
Speaker 2: you guys that we get new Scissor music at midnight.
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's because I'm sad. I don't know. I just
Speaker 2: can't wait for Scissor to talk to me.
Speaker 7: She's one of those artists that I think we know
Speaker 7: what to expect whenever she announces she's dropping something. And
Speaker 7: you know, it's fun to have those artists that you
Speaker 7: know they're going to deliver. She's just one of those
Speaker 7: artists that, no matter what, it's going to be good music.
Speaker 2: I have a question for you guys, will Sissa get
Speaker 2: a similar treatment to other artists that make great pain
Speaker 2: music that if she ends up getting in a relationship
Speaker 2: and ends up being happy, it will piss off a
Speaker 2: lot of her fans. And will her fans want to
Speaker 2: hear real relationship in love music from Scissa? I think so.
Speaker 7: I think she's a great enough writer. Oh we know
Speaker 7: that she doesn't have to pull from pain and or
Speaker 7: you know, just heartbreak all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the weirdo fans that get really upset
Speaker 2: when their favorite artists what happens.
Speaker 7: You can't do nothing about that, you could put out there.
Speaker 7: But if she greted that treatment, I think so, Yeah.
Speaker 7: I don't think no artist is exempt for that from
Speaker 7: that treatment.
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 1: I love Sissa and I don't know her as a person,
Speaker 1: but from what I see as far as her music
Speaker 1: and her artistry, I think that even if Sissa gets
Speaker 1: in a happy.
Speaker 8: Healthy relationship, she will still be able to pull pain.
Speaker 2: Out of it.
Speaker 1: And I think that will come from that will come
Speaker 1: from her own feelings about like herself. You can hear
Speaker 1: it in songs like Special or Nobody Gets Me. So
Speaker 1: I don't think that she'll be writing about her partner
Speaker 1: being horrible.
Speaker 2: Even now.
Speaker 1: It's not a lot about her partners being horrible. A
Speaker 1: lot of it's about her being horrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot. I've actually liked the accountability,
Speaker 2: the growth of Scissor's toxicity. Like before it was, it's
Speaker 2: still all very toxic with she admits, but with Sos
Speaker 2: there was definitely a hey, maybe I might be the
Speaker 2: problem here type of vibe, and I could see her
Speaker 2: getting in a happy relationship and then making an album
Speaker 2: of being terrified of her being a self saboteur, if
Speaker 2: that's the correct one of like, this is such a
Speaker 2: beautiful place that I'm terrified I'm gonna ruin it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but then what if she goes through her therapy and
Speaker 2: all the ayahuasca that she was talking about with Kendrick,
Speaker 2: and then the fifth album is just full blown I'm
Speaker 2: in love. Fuck everyone else that doesn't have a partner.
Speaker 2: You guys are weird, Like, oh, you guys are still
Speaker 2: like dating. You guys still swiping left. That's crazy. Taylor's
Speaker 2: gonna do it.
Speaker 8: Taylor is never going to do that.
Speaker 2: What you don't think we're gonna get a happy Travis
Speaker 2: Kelsey album, a happy Robert Goodell album.
Speaker 4: But but but Taylor's always happy. No, No.
Speaker 2: Her whole thing is she manages dates to make albums
Speaker 2: after they break up. That's like her home.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's like her stick.
Speaker 4: But she she does a great job of turning into
Speaker 4: an anthem.
Speaker 5: Oh she she'll cash out on a relation.
Speaker 2: Should I mean, but she's sad. She sounds as happy
Speaker 2: as a motherfucker. It's just weird human nature because even
Speaker 2: like in the happiest relationships. I still like, don't really
Speaker 2: like super lovey dovey music like that, and that's kind
Speaker 2: of fucked up.
Speaker 4: But that's a reflection of you internally.
Speaker 2: No, But even if I'm in an amazing mood or like,
Speaker 2: I want to relate to, like, the only album I
Speaker 2: can think of that, like, I was like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is great, I can relate was Jay and Beyonce Everything
Speaker 2: Is Love. I was like, this is cool, like a
Speaker 2: mature album that's actually just strictly about love. I can't
Speaker 2: think of very many other albums like that in the
Speaker 2: current time. Seventies and all that shit. They made amazing,
Speaker 2: real love music, but this Dan and Age. I only
Speaker 2: want fucking painful music from these artists.
Speaker 1: Well, my last relationship, the album, the theme album for
Speaker 1: that was Woe These Feels Again by snowa Legra, and
Speaker 1: that was a pretty loving album. It had a couple
Speaker 1: of toxics. It had a couple of toxic songs on it,
Speaker 1: but it's a pretty positive I'm in love. It takes
Speaker 1: you through like the falling in love part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Snow, that's a positive album. She she put out
Speaker 2: one record this year. I think she's coming off in
Speaker 2: my opinion, which will be a classic of those feelings.
Speaker 2: But it's just been a little quiet. She did that
Speaker 2: Black Coffee remix with very Hi that this was her
Speaker 2: last one You're going to do for Love remix. That
Speaker 2: was fire. She's been putting out like Lucy's here and there.
Speaker 2: At one point she put out a Lucy and a
Speaker 2: trailer and it looked like we were about to get
Speaker 2: a Snow album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was like two years ago. I don't
Speaker 1: think you notice how much time now time has gone by.
Speaker 1: I was like two years ago.
Speaker 6: Oh, you're talking about those songs for the artwork was
Speaker 6: like Flowers three records be my Summer Beat My Summer
Speaker 6: was one of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was. But none yet, none of
Speaker 2: those turned into a project. I mean, I'm sure we'll
Speaker 2: get a Snow album in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 8: I need one badly. Actually, I'm scratching this my queens.
Speaker 2: It's needed, and I mean we'll get into a like
Speaker 2: our Wrap and R and B Top albums of the
Speaker 2: Year favorite ones. I went to all the way to
Speaker 2: Philly by myself to go to her show. I remember
Speaker 2: and don't do it great to the Sprinter like you'd
Speaker 2: like myself though I know, but you were like you
Speaker 2: were basically carried there.
Speaker 8: I feel like that's lonelier though I'd rather by myself.
Speaker 4: Does that change anything the matter.
Speaker 2: With like what the car was it? If you took
Speaker 2: like Transit and then then switched in Trenton and then
Speaker 2: got on the Philly train, then I'd be like, all right,
Speaker 2: the China us not doing. But you were in like
Speaker 2: a beautiful plush sprinter. You didn't even realize you left
Speaker 2: your house.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I had to be comfortable.
Speaker 2: Of course, comfort is number one exactly, but we'll get
Speaker 2: into our top. And it was co oh yeah, of
Speaker 2: course like social. Yeah, you were being safe with a
Speaker 2: mask on in the sprinter by yourself now that I'm
Speaker 2: never doing.
Speaker 1: Do you guys have any idea when Summer's album is
Speaker 1: coming out? I know it's coming, I know it's coming soon,
Speaker 1: but I need to know if it's coming before the
Speaker 1: end of this year.
Speaker 2: I would say first quarter of Yeah, next year, I
Speaker 2: don't think.
Speaker 1: Doing this, but she's been doing all this advertising, so
Speaker 1: that's why I'm like here, yeah, top of the Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that Apple Music Show and I think that's
Speaker 1: tied to an album that's coming and it's gonna do
Speaker 1: more episodes to eventually get there.
Speaker 2: So I would say first quarter R and B was
Speaker 2: There was great R and B this year. It was
Speaker 2: don't get me twice when I'm saying that there was
Speaker 2: amazing R and B this year. But as far as
Speaker 2: like volume, it was light compared to twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: I'm pissed I didn't put my album out in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four.
Speaker 5: May.
Speaker 2: I may have made a list this year this Yeah,
Speaker 2: you missed it, but yeah, I do want to go
Speaker 2: through our next episode. I've got my list. I'm curious
Speaker 2: what years is going to be. But yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was light for R and B this year.
Speaker 7: It was light for and B ship, but it was
Speaker 7: great for and B to ship. It was a lot
Speaker 7: of dope projects. I could say the same about rap too.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of good rap projects this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying volume wise, it was easy to
Speaker 2: put my list together. I'll put it that way. And
Speaker 2: of course it's because all our R and B stars
Speaker 2: took tens of millions of dollars in grants, so they
Speaker 2: were just living up. They didn't time to report. They
Speaker 2: were taking taxpayers dollars to go to tuloom.
Speaker 4: That's what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 2: Mall you're familiar with this. Business Insider put out an
Speaker 2: article yesterday with the title how rich musicians build American
Speaker 2: taxpayers for luxury hotels, shopping sprees, and million dollar bonuses.
Speaker 4: They was running a PPP.
Speaker 2: Yes and no, which is crazy because Peage brought this
Speaker 2: article to my attention and at the exact same time
Speaker 2: the SBA loan had emailed me three times. Today they're
Speaker 2: on my ass about the tiny amount of money that
Speaker 2: I took out. Meanwhile, Lil Wayne got fucking nine million
Speaker 2: dollars and it was setting it to mysterious women. That's
Speaker 2: the line item.
Speaker 4: So this is this is where Wayne spent this money at.
Speaker 2: So essentially, just to give a quick background, Business Insider
Speaker 2: highlighted artists like Wayne, Chris Brown, Alison Shane's uh was
Speaker 2: it DJ Marshmellow when COVID hit. You know, all of
Speaker 2: them have their own separate businesses that are just for touring,
Speaker 2: which made them eligible for these SBA loans because you know,
Speaker 2: they weren't bringing in any tour capital even though Wayne
Speaker 2: had sold his catalog that year for one hundred million
Speaker 2: dollars on a separate account. He still was eligible to
Speaker 2: get this loan to pay his staff for touring because
Speaker 2: no one could make money. Now they've kind of thrifted
Speaker 2: through some of their tax returns and what they did
Speaker 2: with their money and.
Speaker 4: Put Trump pardon Wayne. Yeah, yeah, oh, se forgot about that.
Speaker 2: Trump also gave all these artists this money. By the way, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Wayne's grant.
Speaker 6: Wayne's grant was worth eight point nine million in pandemic
Speaker 6: relief in the pandemic relief program. So two years of
Speaker 6: spending with that money.
Speaker 2: So obviously even now, like as someone I took out
Speaker 2: an SBA loan just recently, you started to have to
Speaker 2: pay stuff back, like they had to sift through everything.
Speaker 2: Coming out of twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, most
Speaker 2: of us were hoping that Biden was going to clear
Speaker 2: this entire shit out. He had talked about it. It
Speaker 2: didn't happen. Also, I know there's a million reasons that
Speaker 2: we have inflation. Please let's not pretend like all these
Speaker 2: SBA loans isn't a huge reason for it.
Speaker 7: They broke down Wayne shopping spree. He would have a
Speaker 7: three hundred dollars billions Yaga belt like they knowed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's itemized.
Speaker 6: He spent eighty six hundred and twenty six dollars at
Speaker 6: a shopping trip at Dover Street Market in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: Now I'm pretty sure Wayne can cover eight thousand dollars
Speaker 4: for shopping.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's not that it's the money that he
Speaker 5: yes government.
Speaker 2: For example, he had owed tes front of the show
Speaker 2: shout out to test. He had owed tes, uh, can
Speaker 2: you make it a little bigger because my point one
Speaker 2: four million? He had owed two point four to one
Speaker 2: million two his ex manager, of course, Tes Bryant. And
Speaker 2: he's taking money that should be spent on whatever touring costs,
Speaker 2: ie some of his staff or expenses, and he's taking
Speaker 2: that money and then paying out other people that should
Speaker 2: be for his other LLCs, his other corporations. Got so
Speaker 2: Business Insider is going through this explaining that a lot
Speaker 2: of these artists may be arrested for fraud because this
Speaker 2: is this is you're taking a loan out and using
Speaker 2: the money for something you said you weren't going to do,
Speaker 2: Like Chris Brown took it out and in some cases
Speaker 2: it looked like he was doing work. Took a tour
Speaker 2: bus down at Tuloom to do a video with Jack Harlowe.
Speaker 2: But he was there for a whole month with his
Speaker 2: entire staff and stayed in like this resort village.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the part of the grand he was twenty four
Speaker 6: thousand dollars for the cost of driving his bus from
Speaker 6: these states to Tuloom back in the fall for a
Speaker 6: month long stay with him and his entourage in a
Speaker 6: resort town where he did not perform, and then he
Speaker 6: shot a video and then that was it.
Speaker 2: But it was a month Wayne who again got this
Speaker 2: nine million. Once things started to open up, he was
Speaker 2: getting offers to even do shows, one being in Coachella,
Speaker 2: and then reached out to Coachella and said we can't
Speaker 2: fly there. The wins are crazy. Coachella saw that four
Speaker 2: planes had just went on the exact same route at
Speaker 2: the exact same time. So he is able to make
Speaker 2: money and is not doing that but still taking a loan,
Speaker 2: right is you know, we're not accountants, but yeah, that
Speaker 2: could be fraud. Something is wrong then, And there was
Speaker 2: a specific accounting firm that manages a lot of these
Speaker 2: guys NKSFB, which were like the main culprits in this
Speaker 2: entire thing. They were taking out over seven million dollars
Speaker 2: based off just their commission with their clients off tax
Speaker 2: payer money, right, which is a little crazy when you
Speaker 2: know you're not paying anyone out of that company even
Speaker 2: though you're eligible for it. It was placed there so
Speaker 2: you could continue to pay the people when they can't work.
Speaker 2: But touring's odd and PG and I were talking about this.
Speaker 2: In no way am I an expert. I'm really just
Speaker 2: speculating based off you know, we have a separate company
Speaker 2: that's for when we do tours. A lot of touring,
Speaker 2: even when it is at the level of say a
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, you're hiring a third party company, or you
Speaker 2: have a deal with Live Nation who's going to hire everyone,
Speaker 2: and a lot of even the employees that Live Nation
Speaker 2: hires are more contractors for that specific tour, which means
Speaker 2: those contractors would have been eligible for a loan at
Speaker 2: that time because they cannot work, their business is completely
Speaker 2: shut down. They're sole proprietor like I'm available for for example,
Speaker 2: the SBA loan that I took out, I'm sure anyone
Speaker 2: that's been on a Live Nation tour was eligible for that,
Speaker 2: So that makes sense in that time for somebody that
Speaker 2: isn't really paying out anyone except whatever they're split is
Speaker 2: with Live Nation to be eligible to get a loan
Speaker 2: of that magnitude. Just because you gross nine million last
Speaker 2: year in touring doesn't mean you should get nine million
Speaker 2: this year, especially when you're not paying it out to
Speaker 2: the people that are on the tour to keep the
Speaker 2: economy moving.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the biggest defense to what Rory's saying in the
Speaker 6: article here says, this report reveals how artists directed millions
Speaker 6: and taxpayer funds not towards toying crew members, but instead
Speaker 6: towards their own bank accounts, luxury purchases, and entertainment expenses,
Speaker 6: often while sitting on substantial wealth from other business ventures.
Speaker 6: So they weren't using money that they were say, making
Speaker 6: from other business ventures like this is saying, but instead
Speaker 6: they were taking the taxpayer money to fund their already.
Speaker 4: You know, well, I do like that line, it says.
Speaker 7: One top government accountability expert says someone the spending Business
Speaker 7: Insider identified was questionable, but stopped short of saying it
Speaker 7: was fraudulent.
Speaker 4: So that's important.
Speaker 5: Best quote of the article right here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at a minimum, it smells, It smells I feel you,
Speaker 2: David Walker. Here's the thing again, not an expert, I
Speaker 2: don't know if this is fraud or this is just
Speaker 2: a problem with that entire SBA loan system. I don't
Speaker 2: know if this is essentially fraud because the only to
Speaker 2: be eligible I was reading in the article how they
Speaker 2: even came to the lump some amount that they were
Speaker 2: getting it was it had to be just below what
Speaker 2: they made last year from that exact LLC. So if
Speaker 2: Chris Brown made ten million dollars in touring in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: he was eligible for nine million in twenty twenty. Were
Speaker 2: mad at Chris Brown for taking that money?
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, you can't.
Speaker 2: This is the SBA system was fucking insane. It's also
Speaker 2: part reason why we're in so much debt and so
Speaker 2: much inflation now because they mishandled those COVID funds so much.
Speaker 2: And even in the article, after they shitted on the
Speaker 2: artist for seven pages, at the end they said, this
Speaker 2: is pennies compared to the major corporation bailouts that happened
Speaker 2: during COVID. Nine million dollars is pennies compared to what
Speaker 2: other place has got.
Speaker 7: I mean, but we know that through the whole pandemic thing,
Speaker 7: we knew that a lot of that was gonna come
Speaker 7: back and hurt, and obviously a lot of it falls
Speaker 7: on us to taxpayers. But I mean, I do like
Speaker 7: to see that they are finally addressing a lot of
Speaker 7: this as far as coming from people who are already
Speaker 7: rich and wealthy, Like, Okay, y'all have to pay some
Speaker 7: of this money back.
Speaker 4: You can't just let this fall on the taxpayer.
Speaker 2: I love to how Business Insider even just broke it
Speaker 2: down how Chris Brown spent his grant top item himself
Speaker 2: five point one million. Yeah, that stays here, that's podcast.
Speaker 6: Another line item on his list was he spent eighty
Speaker 6: grand for his thirty third birthday party.
Speaker 4: I can see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that sounds right for a Chris Brown birthday party,
Speaker 2: for sure, But at the time when the money was
Speaker 2: coming from an account that was from the taxpayer's money,
Speaker 2: it's a little different. Chris Brown can spend his money
Speaker 2: anyway he fucking wants, But when it comes to this loan, SAPA, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you didn't take a loan from a bank. You took
Speaker 2: it from the government, which is our money that we
Speaker 2: continue to pay. So yeah, people are pissed. But and
Speaker 2: it doesn't I'm not shooting bail to Chris or Wayne
Speaker 2: or any of these other artists because they are adults
Speaker 2: and they're grown men and they're smart. A lot of
Speaker 2: us were fucking confused at that time, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: their accountants and business managers were like, yo, you're eligible
Speaker 2: for this money, like you should take it. Even my
Speaker 2: business manager, when I didn't necessarily like need the loan
Speaker 2: right away, but he's like, it's the lowest interest rate
Speaker 2: that has ever existed in America. You would be dumb
Speaker 2: not to take this now. Yeah, and it trust me,
Speaker 2: it helped, and I did use it for business irs.
Speaker 2: I promise you don't need to add me to any articles.
Speaker 2: And I'm still I'm paying it. But every every single
Speaker 2: person's business manager was like, this is the lowest interest rate.
Speaker 2: You will never see this for the rest of your life. Yeah,
Speaker 2: take it. But I mean, and it's not illegal, to
Speaker 2: be fair.
Speaker 7: A lot of these artists, you know, because while their
Speaker 7: name is an article and you know they're breaking down
Speaker 7: line items on what they spent, they did not if
Speaker 7: their accountant and their business managers say, yo, let's take
Speaker 7: this loan they probably was like, all right, cool. They
Speaker 7: didn't think that it was going to come back and
Speaker 7: look or smell away.
Speaker 2: It's it's one of my favorite Dame quotes. Ever, how
Speaker 2: could I have tax problems? I hired an accountant, right, Like?
Speaker 2: What the fuck? I hired someone so I would not
Speaker 2: have tax problems. Now I have tax problems. I didn't
Speaker 2: tell him not to.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and this wasn't just a hip hop is show.
Speaker 6: I know we're only talking in that community. But Steve
Speaker 6: ak Aoki Marshmallow Rory mentioned earlier the Alison Chains, which
Speaker 6: is a group is also named in this article.
Speaker 2: Alison Chaine's was the craziest one. They took one out
Speaker 2: and had a whole touring staff, one of which ended
Speaker 2: up getting cancer, and they did not use any of
Speaker 2: their loan for health and to continue the health insurance
Speaker 2: for their staff. Instead, they did a GoFundMe on Twitter
Speaker 2: during COVID when no one had ain't fucking money and
Speaker 2: then he unfortunately ended up dying.
Speaker 6: Did we want to get into the brief text exchange
Speaker 6: between Lil Wayne and the reporter from Business Insider, Katherine Long.
Speaker 6: She reached out to Wayne for a comment and his
Speaker 6: response is hilarious, mal, do you want to give us this?
Speaker 7: So, Catherine says, Hello, Dwayne, this is Katherine Long from
Speaker 7: Business Insider.
Speaker 4: Did you see my email?
Speaker 3: Hold on?
Speaker 2: Can you see the time? She said that? Okay?
Speaker 7: An hour and thirty nine minutes later, on an hour
Speaker 7: and forty minutes.
Speaker 2: Wayne just picks up his phone, probably charging Hi. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: in the kitchen.
Speaker 7: Hey, Katherine, did you see my dick? I'm sure it's
Speaker 7: much longer and better than the email.
Speaker 2: And you like him long? Right, Miss Long spoke away.
Speaker 2: He's still still in shape, spoken like the car games.
Speaker 2: You don't see the onendreus with the lungs. Then you
Speaker 2: trying to clean it up. But I think he got
Speaker 2: Not sure, Cat says, not sure what you're referring.
Speaker 7: Yes you do, Catherine, Our email requested your comment related
Speaker 7: to the shuttered venue operator's grant program. Apologies, this isn't
Speaker 7: kitty Katherine. Well, you must have wrong number and wrong Dwayne.
Speaker 7: While he started talking like he was.
Speaker 5: Because he knew he sucked up.
Speaker 2: No, because you know, mac Man took his phone and
Speaker 2: type that, Well, you must have wrong number and wrong Dwayne.
Speaker 2: But that is probably how Wayne Texas. I don't know sentences. Sure,
Speaker 2: I thought, what do you say? I thought this was
Speaker 2: Kitty kat Kitty Kay Catherine.
Speaker 7: He said, apologies, this isn't Kitty Katherine.
Speaker 2: Let's say, let's say you have like a long relationship
Speaker 2: with an escort or a strip or whatever that texts you,
Speaker 2: because we can assume Kitty Catherine might be one of those. Yeah,
Speaker 2: is she sending you Hey, did you get my email? No?
Speaker 4: Wayne knew exactly who he was talking to.
Speaker 2: Okay, what if Wayne and her have like role play
Speaker 2: where he's like her boss and like pathroming along from
Speaker 2: business inside they could have some type of like weird
Speaker 2: fetish where she's like the secretary and he's the boss.
Speaker 2: Roleplay through text message. Yeah, and like that is his
Speaker 2: secretary is saying like did you see my email? And
Speaker 2: he was like, come see my dick, you see.
Speaker 5: My business inside her business.
Speaker 2: This is pretty much the entire synopsis to Madmen. It's
Speaker 2: the same thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Wayne, you're gonna have to pay that money back.
Speaker 7: Though some text messages is cool, but they could the
Speaker 7: irs want that money, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: And listen, I'm not saying we should let them off
Speaker 2: the hook of anything, but I think they're the least
Speaker 2: criminals when it comes down to something.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Staying in music. Been a full music day. Little Baby
Speaker 2: did an interview. I assume he has an album coming out,
Speaker 2: it's been a while, but he did a full sit
Speaker 2: down with Charlemagne. He also sat down with YACHTI. I
Speaker 2: think he did one other podcast as well. But Charlemagne
Speaker 2: asked him today if he still had a relationship with Gunner.
Speaker 2: Are we allowed to play this clip?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. Let me just get the actual clip.
Speaker 4: What's the relationship with you and Gunner right now?
Speaker 2: I've got no relationship. Yeah, the Internet says, The Internet
Speaker 2: says you can't. You can't make hits without Gunner. So
Speaker 2: do you think y'all ever make music again? The Internet
Speaker 2: say anything? I mean, it is like, yeah, we can
Speaker 2: pause here, because there really wasn't much that happened in
Speaker 2: this interview. When I'm not saying that's a Charlemagne thing whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I think he asked all the right questions, but some
Speaker 2: rappers just don't care to answer questions whatsoever. But this
Speaker 2: was kind of crazy to me that we finally got
Speaker 2: an answer from Baby about his relationship with Gunner outside
Speaker 2: of Thug I think Baby would the next person. All
Speaker 2: of us were waiting to see on what he was
Speaker 2: gonna do once Gunner was home and making music again,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: But but didn't Baby addressed this kind of early though,
Speaker 4: didn't he tweet something early?
Speaker 2: He did? But this was when everyone like like Mee Dirk,
Speaker 2: like a lot of people did, like an unfollowed when
Speaker 2: that shit leaked, And then Thug said something that was
Speaker 2: cryptic that made it sound like, oh, maybe Thug is
Speaker 2: still fucking with Gunna and this was their plan. So everyone,
Speaker 2: I think got nervous. Yeah, as far as, oh shit,
Speaker 2: are we supposed to cut this guy off or not?
Speaker 2: So I think it's interesting that Baby is flat out
Speaker 2: saying we don't have a relationship. Charlamagne goes on to
Speaker 2: ask another good question in this scenario, because Thug, in
Speaker 2: his plea, asked if he could still have communication with
Speaker 2: Gunner because they worked together. If Thug was in the
Speaker 2: studio with Gunna working on a song and called you
Speaker 2: and said, Baby, will you come here and get on
Speaker 2: the record, would you do it? Baby said, I don't
Speaker 2: ever see that happening, and then did a cryptic kind
Speaker 2: of way of saying, fuck that Thug and do what
Speaker 2: he wants. I'm not I'm not fucking with Gunn. That's
Speaker 2: what I took from him dodging the question.
Speaker 7: I mean, I listen, you know, certain guys come from
Speaker 7: a certain background, and you know certain things are just
Speaker 7: you know, all bets off after that. So, I mean,
Speaker 7: I understand baby stance on that as far as Thug,
Speaker 7: because you know, obviously, you know, it's business. They're like
Speaker 7: a real closer business relationship there. So it's a little
Speaker 7: different for.
Speaker 2: Thug, way different. It's a artists.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I understand, you know, I understand little Baby stance,
Speaker 7: and his stance is like a lot of other people's
Speaker 7: stance that come from a certain background.
Speaker 4: It's just certain things it's no coming back from. So
Speaker 4: it's no surprise to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just even shocked with Baby doing this press
Speaker 2: run that he allowed some of these questions, like he's
Speaker 2: not really like an interviewer per se, like they did
Speaker 2: his dock And that was the most we ever really
Speaker 2: got from him because he's not media trend's.
Speaker 7: But it's not even media training, because I don't think
Speaker 7: you need media training. I just think that some people
Speaker 7: just are not comfortable with talking to, you know, somebody
Speaker 7: that's interviewing, Like people don't want to be interviewed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like you're grilling me.
Speaker 7: And then you know a lot of these artists don't
Speaker 7: trust people that you try to spend what I said
Speaker 7: and now I'm online saying something that you know is
Speaker 7: out of context. So it's a lot of apprehensiveness looking at.
Speaker 4: Gun in this interview.
Speaker 7: His body language is very like, you know, cold and
Speaker 7: standoffish and like a what you want to talk about?
Speaker 4: Hurry up?
Speaker 7: Ask me what you got to ask me so I
Speaker 7: can get out of here. Like he don't really want
Speaker 7: to sit there here. I mean, he definitely didn't want
Speaker 7: to sit there and talk about Gunner. Yeah, But I
Speaker 7: just think that it's interesting because little baby has been
Speaker 7: he's been, you know, a star for some years now.
Speaker 7: You would think that he would be a little more comfortable, uh,
Speaker 7: in interviews and having conversations with you know, certain media personalities.
Speaker 2: But he came up in the era like, of course,
Speaker 2: it's still important to make your rounds and sit with
Speaker 2: people and do interviews, but a lot of people from
Speaker 2: his generation can talk directly to their fans through social media.
Speaker 2: They're not forced to have to go through outlets to
Speaker 2: reach people, so they don't. It's not even media training.
Speaker 2: They just don't even get to practice, where when you're
Speaker 2: on album five, you've been doing this NonStop, so you
Speaker 2: know how to at least fake it and get through
Speaker 2: the press run days. He doesn't. He hasn't done much
Speaker 2: because he hasn't necessarily needed it. Do. I think it
Speaker 2: could help if he did more of it, of course,
Speaker 2: but it's not a necessity. I think his generation doesn't
Speaker 2: view it as a necessity to have to sit with
Speaker 2: everyone and really answer all these fucking questions like if
Speaker 2: I don't fuck with Gun, I don't fuck with Gun,
Speaker 2: it's not I'll rap about it. I don't need to
Speaker 2: sit with you guys to do it. So I'm actually
Speaker 2: even shocked he had as candid as possible an interview
Speaker 2: with Harlo Man and Yadi as well. I thought the
Speaker 2: Yaudi conversation was was a bit better just because they're friends.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, maybe I was a little bit
Speaker 2: more shocked than most people today that he actually answered
Speaker 2: that question.
Speaker 7: And I don't think he probably was tired of, you know,
Speaker 7: seeing it prob being his mentions and things like that,
Speaker 7: so just addressed it, and you know, now nobody got
Speaker 7: ask metagan.
Speaker 4: I answered it. You know what it is, Nobody asked
Speaker 4: me about it.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna ask an open ended question because
Speaker 2: admittedly I'm not like the Little Baby and Gonna fan
Speaker 2: that like idolizes them and their music just because I
Speaker 2: think it's an age difference. But we talked about with
Speaker 2: the Drake battle, like, Damn, for me it hurts that
Speaker 2: I'll never get a Drake and Rick Ross song again
Speaker 2: like that. That sucks for me. For these kids, never
Speaker 2: getting a Little Baby and Gunner record again, I think
Speaker 2: is big news. Yeah, but that's there for that generation.
Speaker 2: They are an iconic duo rightfully, So yeah, but I
Speaker 2: think they music together. Yeah, but I think it stings
Speaker 2: a little bit more when you there was hope before
Speaker 2: because we didn't really know what was going on with
Speaker 2: the case. Now it's set in stone that two people
Speaker 2: that have made great music together damn near like helped
Speaker 2: make each other's careers. Like it almost seemed like Little
Speaker 2: Baby and Gonna wear a group at when they have
Speaker 2: a whole tape together. That's crazy to think that we
Speaker 2: will never get music from these two again.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, listen, I get it, you know, make
Speaker 7: good music, but you know we talking about somebody like
Speaker 7: little Baby. It's just certain things that I knew what
Speaker 7: it was. Yeah, I was like, bro, he's not he
Speaker 7: can't do that goes against everything that you know he
Speaker 7: stands for one that he's built upon. So it's not
Speaker 7: a surprise to me. And didn't didn't Thug tweet some
Speaker 7: when he came home. Didn't he tweet something alluding to
Speaker 7: like it was he wasn't fucking gonna that that.
Speaker 2: Was I think photoshops because it said like this tweet
Speaker 2: was deleted, and no one could really confirm if that
Speaker 2: tweet was actually deleted or somebody photoshopped that tweet and
Speaker 2: put tweet was deleted.
Speaker 7: I feel like his father went online and says, I
Speaker 7: don't know. It was just a lot going around around
Speaker 7: that time when when Thug was released.
Speaker 2: But here it is, gonna stop acting like we friends
Speaker 2: on the internet. I don't know you, my guy. That's
Speaker 2: clearly not real. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 2: that made rounds like it was. I don't think that was.
Speaker 2: We know that to be false because of how things
Speaker 2: ended up. He's gonna work with Gonna, like, no, he
Speaker 2: has to be around him. That's his part. Think Doug
Speaker 2: and Gonna are gonna work together again, but they have,
Speaker 2: I mean they have.
Speaker 4: They have to be in contact with each other though
Speaker 4: they have to be that's as artists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if they don't even have direct communication, it'd
Speaker 2: be hard to prove that he wasn't violating his parole.
Speaker 2: If you see both their signatures together or any type
Speaker 2: of business interactions like that, it would be impossible. So
Speaker 2: I don't really foresee that happening. But I mean, Gun
Speaker 2: has been making great music since he's been out, so
Speaker 2: he's been making really good music. I think babies do up.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's been not quiet for him at all,
Speaker 2: but it's been It's okay to say it's like ye
Speaker 2: when it sounds like you're saying it's over for baby.
Speaker 2: She took some time off, which is fine.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not I've never met at a artist taking
Speaker 7: time off. But he has to prove something on this
Speaker 7: next one. But he has something to prove for sure.
Speaker 7: I mean he hears it people saying he fell off
Speaker 7: and yeah, you know it's quiet for him and things
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 5: His last single was November yeah, it just.
Speaker 2: Came out, so we'll probably get an album from him
Speaker 2: first quarter then if he's doing press now and as
Speaker 2: a single out November, I think so. I doubt on
Speaker 2: this side of the year because he only has what
Speaker 2: like one Friday left.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's dropping on this shit top of
Speaker 2: the year. First quarter, they'll they'll do a real proper
Speaker 2: role out. I can't say, some surprise album with where
Speaker 2: baby's at right now. Again staying on music, but more
Speaker 2: gossip shit that I'm not to say. I don't care,
Speaker 2: but I just I just find it like weird of
Speaker 2: the things that are like TMZ headlines, Chance, the rapper
Speaker 2: and his wife had filed divorced after five years of marriage.
Speaker 2: I get the Chance has mentioned his wife in a
Speaker 2: lot of his music. One of his albums, the theme
Speaker 2: was he loved his wife so much and that was
Speaker 2: a big thing. He's put her on IG before. But
Speaker 2: they were never like this social couple that like was
Speaker 2: out here that we even deserved to know that they
Speaker 2: filed for divorce. That's where I guess I find it weird.
Speaker 2: I understand the couples that call Papa azzis and are
Speaker 2: seen out every fucking day like that. It's a thing
Speaker 2: they were relatively private with with what they have, very private,
Speaker 2: so I don't which it just felt weird to me
Speaker 2: with TMZ doing that and then the whole timeline talking
Speaker 2: about Chance and his wife was on divorce and then
Speaker 2: him catching a dub.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the video that kind of Ever since
Speaker 6: this came out, people were just like the clocks on okay, well,
Speaker 6: which I'm sure this had nothing to do with them.
Speaker 2: It added some context because I read the TMZ article
Speaker 2: because I'm hypocrite. They had been separated for quite some time.
Speaker 2: She just filed for divorce that day. They had not
Speaker 2: been together. So if you're separated, you can't catch a
Speaker 2: dub at Carnival.
Speaker 8: I mean you can, but I don't want nobody thinking
Speaker 8: you've connected to me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's you're right. It's like we can be separated,
Speaker 7: but you still can't be. Yeah, like you gotta be,
Speaker 7: you know, don't make don't make you know your your
Speaker 7: partner looks stupid, like we're not together, but we do
Speaker 7: have a family, like we're family fever. So it's like,
Speaker 7: you know, don't make me look crazy. You out here
Speaker 7: at carnival. You know what, you just know what it
Speaker 7: looks like. You know what that you know with that
Speaker 7: with that says the message behind that. So it's just
Speaker 7: you know, it looks away.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I hope this is something they both want.
Speaker 7: And yeah, man, as long as they have and the
Speaker 7: kids are you know, obviously well taken care of and
Speaker 7: safe and loved. I mean, who cares if they're together.
Speaker 7: Not as long as the you know, the family is
Speaker 7: still intact and there's still respect and you know, love
Speaker 7: for the for the kids.
Speaker 2: But it was fucked up. Why it really was news
Speaker 2: on like the music timeline kind of back to Our
Speaker 2: says a conversation of fans that hate your music when
Speaker 2: you're in love. I saw people celebrating the ones that
Speaker 2: hated his last album that was about his wife. They're like,
Speaker 2: finally we'll get back to chance music because he's not
Speaker 2: fully in love and married, which is fucked up because
Speaker 2: he has like two kids and divorce as hell. That's like,
Speaker 2: that's fucking awful to like, oh, thank god he's divorced
Speaker 2: and God's going through it. Yeah, thank god. His kids
Speaker 2: being separate homes.
Speaker 4: It's crazy. Fans are crazy man.
Speaker 2: And even then, it's not like Chance was ever making
Speaker 2: like super hurtful fucking or like single I'm fucking these
Speaker 2: host type of music. He's always made positive music. Just
Speaker 2: the last album it was about his wife.
Speaker 4: Do we think that three on the hat meant three
Speaker 4: to guys like three him from his marriage?
Speaker 2: Mmmm? Peep said yeah. Immediately he was telling us the
Speaker 2: whole time we should show under the under the bill
Speaker 2: Yeah three me. Oh. This sounds pessimistic, But is it impossible,
Speaker 2: especially for people that are working in entertainment, to get
Speaker 2: married that young. I always think it's a bad idea
Speaker 2: to get married young because they've been together. They were
Speaker 2: five years probably six ye something like that. Chance was
Speaker 2: young when they got married. She was fresh out of college.
Speaker 2: I believe they long than five years. I'm sorry, married
Speaker 2: for five years. They were together longer for sure.
Speaker 5: Yah, they were together for a long long time?
Speaker 2: Is that even like.
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 2: Is that sad for me to say that? I just
Speaker 2: don't think that's like a smart thing for this generation
Speaker 2: to be getting married, To get married early, if you're
Speaker 2: in a certain type of industry, I think people in
Speaker 2: the South, Yeah, you guys can go get married at
Speaker 2: fucking eighteen and you guys will be together two you're seventy.
Speaker 5: But the nearly ten year relationship chance is only twenty nine.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you're literally growing up together. Yeah, she's twenty nine,
Speaker 2: he's a little older.
Speaker 7: But that's tough to yours, especially in this you know,
Speaker 7: it's different now as opposed to when our grandparents met
Speaker 7: and got together and got married.
Speaker 2: It's just a different world, different and access things like that.
Speaker 2: But then, how like, if you love someone and you
Speaker 2: know this is the person I want to spend the
Speaker 2: rest of my life with, how do you also make
Speaker 2: that make sense in your brain not to marry them
Speaker 2: at that time? And like, what woman that also feels
Speaker 2: that way is going to be comfortable with? Like, you know,
Speaker 2: we're twenty and we both know we're going to stay
Speaker 2: together forever. But I'm fine with you marrying me in
Speaker 2: ten years now. I'm on the side of it.
Speaker 7: If we have a child very young, then I think
Speaker 7: I'm all on the side of Listen, you know, make
Speaker 7: the family a real union and make it whole, you know,
Speaker 7: give your wife that because of our security, well yeah,
Speaker 7: taxes as well, But yeah, I'm on the side of that.
Speaker 7: But It's just it's tough, man, because you still growing up,
Speaker 7: you still learning yourself, You're still evolving at it, you know,
Speaker 7: twenty eight, twenty nine years old.
Speaker 4: So to say, you know, put marriage and home on
Speaker 4: top of that.
Speaker 7: And even though you know wild Chance is successful, has
Speaker 7: money and can afford you know, a different lifestyle, and
Speaker 7: you know, it's still like he's still growing up. He's
Speaker 7: still you know, becoming a man, and he's doing it
Speaker 7: in real time and learning in real time how to
Speaker 7: you know, be a father, be you know, an artist,
Speaker 7: and be a supportive husband and things like that. It's
Speaker 7: it's a lot on somebody that's still, you know, essentially
Speaker 7: learning who they are as a person. So I mean,
Speaker 7: it's it's it's I understand it on one hand, but
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, if you could not be married
Speaker 7: in your twenties and you know, evolve and learn who
Speaker 7: you are, I would say just hold out. But at
Speaker 7: the same time, if you have a kid young and
Speaker 7: you know you want to make your family official and
Speaker 7: things like that, then I totally understand that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And to be clear, I'm also not saying for
Speaker 2: someone that is young and works in the entertainment space
Speaker 2: based off access to other women, because not everyone is
Speaker 2: a cheating piece of shit. Yeah, it's not even about
Speaker 2: just you don't have a real structure at all. Your
Speaker 2: life is kind of all over the fucking place. There's
Speaker 2: not anything really set in stone. It's not like you
Speaker 2: have a specific salary that you know you're gonna make
Speaker 2: every single year you go to work, you come home.
Speaker 2: Marriage and being a parent really comes from structure is
Speaker 2: the best way to handle that. And when you're a
Speaker 2: young entertainer, I don't I don't know how you would
Speaker 2: even handle that type between tour making music, like you
Speaker 2: have not even knowing where the next check is necessarily
Speaker 2: going to come from, and there's so much uncertainty, like
Speaker 2: you have to constantly be focusing on that part of
Speaker 2: your career and that's tough for a young kid. And
Speaker 2: again I don't know if that was the case with
Speaker 2: Chance at all, but you know, speculating, Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: mean prayers everyone involved, hopefully hopefully they're both happy about
Speaker 2: it and a static.
Speaker 7: And because that happens, people get divorced in a very
Speaker 7: happy and still very cordial and you know, still do
Speaker 7: a great job at co parenting and raising their kids.
Speaker 7: So you know, I don't I don't talx I mean
Speaker 7: chance doesn't doesn't strike me as a toxic individual.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know.
Speaker 7: You know what the situation is, what is what is
Speaker 7: uh his ex wife? But I think that you know,
Speaker 7: it'll be a healthy, healthy, cold parenting thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lewis and Ca said, never say you feel bad
Speaker 2: for someone that got divorced, because no good marriage ever
Speaker 2: ended in divorce. And they're both thrilled.
Speaker 4: That's a fact.
Speaker 2: Put that in the museum unless you're the guy and
Speaker 2: you have to give up half your assets.
Speaker 7: And they did say the details of uh, you know
Speaker 7: what she's asking for were not disclosed yet, so you
Speaker 7: know that.
Speaker 2: His three hacklags.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it was her idea. She designed it.
Speaker 7: You know, that's coming into her favorite number. That's her
Speaker 7: angel favorite number. You know, that's her nickname.
Speaker 2: I've definitely we've we've seen that in the past with
Speaker 2: some divorce of like women, with whether actors or musicians,
Speaker 2: that they were like the muse and like they deserve
Speaker 2: I was just try was the inspiration, she says, she
Speaker 2: a and r my beautiful dark swis of vantasy.
Speaker 4: I believe her.
Speaker 2: She might be right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe her.
Speaker 2: She It was confirmed that when they were making Monsters,
Speaker 2: she did say there's this girl Nicki Minaj that you
Speaker 2: should get on this. So I don't think that's like
Speaker 2: a full A and R credit, But I believe her.
Speaker 2: You was, you know, it changed the record, changed the album.
Speaker 2: One of the best verses that's ever existed. Exactly what
Speaker 2: else you think Amber an art on there her own
Speaker 2: dis record blame game. Probably think she was feeding Chris
Speaker 2: Rock those lines.
Speaker 7: I mean, I just think it'd be funny if it
Speaker 7: comes out that if Kanye like, nah, she she really did.
Speaker 7: I think people owe Amber an apology like sure line.
Speaker 7: Now it sounds when it sounds crazy because you don't
Speaker 7: look at Am, but like, oh, she's somebody that knows
Speaker 7: about music. It's like, you know, as long as she
Speaker 7: went in there and she said, no, you should do this,
Speaker 7: and then they actually did it and the album came
Speaker 7: what it is?
Speaker 2: Yeah, did she not A and R the No, Well,
Speaker 2: there's more to being an R than just making the suggestion.
Speaker 7: Of course I'm saying. I'm saying throughout the entire process
Speaker 7: that she's dead with NA.
Speaker 2: Yet I feel like if she cleared a sample then
Speaker 2: I'll give her.
Speaker 7: That she didn't clear sample. I could promise you she didn't.
Speaker 7: I could promise you am but didn't clear.
Speaker 2: Samp because then, because I feel like we're giving the listeners, uh,
Speaker 2: this false impression of what A and RS are, because
Speaker 2: everyone on Twitter thinks they can be an R in
Speaker 2: A and R because they like they like two chains
Speaker 2: before he You're like, yeah, I mean like that's all
Speaker 2: in RS do is just find people.
Speaker 4: I mean, Lebron could be an R.
Speaker 2: So can you he Well, he's literally he literally is,
Speaker 2: and he's taking time off with the Lakers to go
Speaker 2: back what he's doing.
Speaker 4: He's working on it. Yeah, the Deluxe. You think he's
Speaker 4: working He worked on Lina.
Speaker 2: You think he definitely worked on Lina. He was. He
Speaker 2: called Ben Stiller, that's a fact. He saw him court
Speaker 2: side of the Lakers game. It was like, yo, I
Speaker 2: got this line of projects.
Speaker 7: Album's too good. He's speculating that Braun. I think they're
Speaker 7: saying that Savannah might have found to burn the foam
Speaker 7: oh please, oh kind of ship. I just think that
Speaker 7: he wants out of La Man.
Speaker 5: Not a surprise, that's not that he's done sadass team.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh he came back, he played, you guys are
Speaker 2: the okay, the more basketball guys than me. But I
Speaker 2: saw that headline and then I saw him playing like
Speaker 2: the next day, it.
Speaker 7: Was like, is this a rerun that he had to
Speaker 7: go to Germany and get that plasma, get that plasma,
Speaker 7: ingested it and they turned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to get get the plasma and knees, man,
Speaker 2: because some more air and those knees. That's so fucked up.
Speaker 2: Of all the speculations when he said that, they were like,
Speaker 2: oh he Diddy jay Z. Now it's Lebron. It's clear
Speaker 2: now people are people are crazy, man, people are absolutely crazy. Well,
Speaker 2: I guess I'm glad he's back and hopefully we'll have
Speaker 2: new music soon. Now that he took a weekend.
Speaker 4: Off, fucking Lakers stank.
Speaker 2: Well, look what you guys do with your fifty fifth pick.
Speaker 2: It drafted better, could have drafted better. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: that's what got has sucked up up thirty.
Speaker 6: He had a big night the other night. Oh, Ronnie,
Speaker 6: Ronnie put up thirty. Yeah with the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Hell no, hell tell me that. Until with the Lakers,
Speaker 2: that would have been on every fucking are you kidding me?
Speaker 5: I mean that's still going.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, thirty in the chileigue is not bad,
Speaker 2: like that's crazy. Yeah, I just don't think, you know,
Speaker 2: he's ready to be the fifty fifth pick. But other
Speaker 2: than that, any sports updates before we get to Voicemaiulse,
Speaker 2: Christmas is coming well, waiting for those numbers.
Speaker 4: We didn't talk about the Yankees lost one soda.
Speaker 2: I mean, do we need to? I mean I thought
Speaker 2: they was gonna keep him, but he was asking for
Speaker 2: a lot, he was stretching it. Pause, We'll be all right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but we got Cody Bellinger. That was a good pick up.
Speaker 2: And then uh, page six, throw in some little gossip
Speaker 2: to have me a little fucking worried. Important gossip, though
Speaker 2: sometimes gossip is important. You need that. We're still talking sports.
Speaker 2: We're talking about locker room chemistry right now. We're not
Speaker 2: even trying to be gospa. This is still man sports
Speaker 2: ship that we're talking about.
Speaker 5: Clubhouse. By the way, So Cody.
Speaker 2: Bellinger, I did not know about his wife because I
Speaker 2: particularly do not give a fuck. Her name is Chase Carter.
Speaker 2: She's a model. Apparently allegedly she dated Stanton before marrying
Speaker 2: Cody Bellinger. Yeah, now we don't know what what dating
Speaker 2: really means, like maybe he just beat one night, or
Speaker 2: like they were in a real relationship. Well, here's this
Speaker 2: just gonna gonna get messy. This might be worse than Jeter.
Speaker 6: And a Rod Carter, who married h Cody last December,
Speaker 6: has two daughters with him. She had a two year
Speaker 6: fling from twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen with Stanton. That's
Speaker 6: pretty these years are bumping on each other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's definitely some overlaps. There's some overlaps.
Speaker 4: Stan probably to have some cleats in the girl.
Speaker 6: I'm imagining that she had to break it off with
Speaker 6: Stanton because she got pregnant.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go there, but I was going
Speaker 2: to bring up maybe there was some some type of
Speaker 2: conversation with this overlap on whose kid was who?
Speaker 6: But wait, why you say that? Well look at the
Speaker 6: dates here? Yeah, they line up perfectly.
Speaker 2: Down to the nine months. How did what dates in December?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: My bad?
Speaker 4: Yeah, look at you you're math.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm seeing the twenty nineteen MVP.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8: She married him last December, which means that they've been together.
Speaker 5: It still doesn't necessarily.
Speaker 2: Nay the theory's wrong. You say it, well, when did
Speaker 2: they have the two daughters? Well, yeah, well she has
Speaker 2: two daughters with someone else.
Speaker 5: How old are the daughters That's what matters.
Speaker 8: He has two daughters with Bellinger.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, that's what mat just got married.
Speaker 2: But if there's two daughters, that's that could be four
Speaker 2: five years. There could be some overlap, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Either way, I don't think this is that big a deal.
Speaker 4: That locker room is going to be very interesting.
Speaker 2: She's hot. Isn't that weird?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 2: Yes, what are you talking about? That's it's weird. That
Speaker 2: is weird.
Speaker 7: It's weird if you come in here with a girl
Speaker 7: that I dated. Let alone, we play for a team
Speaker 7: and we travel, we in hotels and got to practice.
Speaker 4: And and and play games with me.
Speaker 2: But she's like married with two kids.
Speaker 7: It's still I understand, it's not like but it's still like, yo,
Speaker 7: my ex is like your wife, like you have a family.
Speaker 7: It's weird at any It's all not say weird, one
Speaker 7: would put weird on it. It's it's a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 7: It's just a little uncomfortable, little awkward, little awkward air
Speaker 7: in the locker room. So it's kind of one of
Speaker 7: those if Cody walks in while the whole team is
Speaker 7: there and stand is there and they all talking. Once
Speaker 7: Cody walks in, everybody's quiet, it's like that type of
Speaker 7: like ship, like they gonna have words. Is he gonna
Speaker 7: shake his hands and say what's up to them? Like
Speaker 7: it's like that until Cody is cool, like, yo, we
Speaker 7: ain't got to be way awkward, bro, Like I know
Speaker 7: y'all dated, like it's school.
Speaker 2: Well, one of their kids was born in twenty twenty one, Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: so there's no really overla there.
Speaker 5: There's two kids.
Speaker 2: So the one that the other kids could have been
Speaker 2: born to have been born after or before that.
Speaker 5: It's a story.
Speaker 2: I think there's more of a mess in like I'm
Speaker 2: not just gonna put it on the NBA, but in
Speaker 2: locker rooms where it's more so crossover with hose and
Speaker 2: like ig chicks that they actually like but pretend they
Speaker 2: don't like. And you find out that guy also fucked
Speaker 2: than it is with this, like yes he's marife, Like
Speaker 2: if they if they had if they dated for two
Speaker 2: years and he didn't do no like foul shit to
Speaker 2: he or anything. They dated for two years and then
Speaker 2: she moved on and I met her, Like, my wife
Speaker 2: wouldn't have dated someone before me. The only weird part
Speaker 2: is now that they just share a locker room. I
Speaker 2: think this is a way less awkward situation than some
Speaker 2: of the messy crossover dating that happens when you're not
Speaker 2: in a relationship.
Speaker 7: Babe, Listen, I've been I've been in close proximity to athletes,
Speaker 7: like becoming teammates that one of them dated the other
Speaker 7: one's current wife, Like it is an awkward thing.
Speaker 2: Were they white?
Speaker 1: And this is important because the reason why I say
Speaker 1: that is because I always like with my white friends,
Speaker 1: they never seem to care about They don't care about
Speaker 1: stuff like that at all, Like.
Speaker 2: Would you consider me a white friend?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 8: No, so I'm just a white And honestly, you don't
Speaker 8: really care like that either, Like I just I feel.
Speaker 2: Like they just, oh, I wouldn't care. This is not
Speaker 2: a situation to.
Speaker 8: Them, Yeah, like, oh, you guys were dating, Like they
Speaker 8: move on fast.
Speaker 2: I care about shit. But to say, I would think
Speaker 2: it was nuts if my wife that I have two
Speaker 2: kids with dated someone before, like not no, crazy fucking
Speaker 2: wild out smug ship that you was running through a
Speaker 2: locker room. You dated a guy for two years and
Speaker 2: it didn't work out, Like that's life. But I wouldn't
Speaker 2: care about that what she was getting like smutted out
Speaker 2: by the whole Infields.
Speaker 1: Yes, this white friend cares what Malla. I think Moll's
Speaker 1: point is that there they have to kind of be
Speaker 1: like bros.
Speaker 2: Now, Like we understand we're teammates, literally teammates, Like we
Speaker 2: have to have this bond in this chemistry with each other.
Speaker 7: That's the way successful teams happen. We have to like
Speaker 7: each other to a certain extent. We have to have
Speaker 7: each other's back on the field. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: Like we got it, Like it's think it's.
Speaker 2: More awkward thing.
Speaker 8: It's going to be more awkward for her.
Speaker 1: Yep, I was gonna say, I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be more awkward for her up in the the new
Speaker 1: like family and friends section with because Stanton probably has
Speaker 1: a new girl. Because baseball players don't stay single for long.
Speaker 2: That's only focused on the gates. It's definitely the women.
Speaker 2: That's not true. I've seen it. I'm telling you they
Speaker 2: get along with women. They don't listen, when it's millions
Speaker 2: involved women get along, Dad called you, it'd be the
Speaker 2: niggas in the locker room, fake staying at each other,
Speaker 2: Like she comes in the locker room with her kids whatever.
Speaker 2: That's somebody she used to date for two years too,
Speaker 2: So there's there's actually something somewhat was there. You guys
Speaker 2: knew each other for two years. Yeah, that could be
Speaker 2: a little awkward of how to handle it, and that
Speaker 2: the partner feels awkward.
Speaker 4: So what I'm say it's gonna be awkward. It's just
Speaker 4: gonna be a little awkard.
Speaker 2: I think for her and Stand, it's it's way more
Speaker 2: awkward than it it is for him.
Speaker 7: I don't think, because what if her and Standing broke,
Speaker 7: like but if they should ended on some like you
Speaker 7: know they don't like each other, it's not all awkward
Speaker 7: at that point. If you don't like the person, like
Speaker 7: you can't stomach seeing them, like yo, this piece of
Speaker 7: fucking shit, it's not awkward for you. I would you
Speaker 7: rather does not even see the person like yo, he's
Speaker 7: a piece of shit, Like I don't even want to
Speaker 7: be around him. That's not awkward. Awkward is in when
Speaker 7: it's like damn, we was cool. We kind of like
Speaker 7: ghost at each other, and then now you pop up
Speaker 7: and you're married to my teammate. Like, that's when it
Speaker 7: becomes awkar because it's like, damn.
Speaker 2: We didn't even write that's awkward though, That's when it's
Speaker 2: awkward situation. I don't think you don't know if they ended,
Speaker 2: we stand ended on talking about the ghosting, and then
Speaker 2: you popped up married with my teammate. He just got
Speaker 2: traded there. They've been married for a while, they have
Speaker 2: two kids. There's been mad doc.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but what if her and Stan didn't end on
Speaker 4: some toxic shit, what if they still you.
Speaker 2: Know, first of all, I don't think the steime earners
Speaker 2: would ever bring someone on the roster that would do
Speaker 2: something like that. I think Stan is an upstanding citizen
Speaker 2: and it ended amicably and respectfully, and they're probably still friends.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, they're not still friends the cool.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if it ended weird, that would be awkward
Speaker 2: And then my my toxic brain would be like, all right,
Speaker 2: why you still feel a way about him?
Speaker 5: Mmmm?
Speaker 2: As the as the current husband, Like if you hate
Speaker 2: him so much, you still disdain him? Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: trust I don't trust you. But to me, that's more
Speaker 2: self sabotaged, Like I probably shouldn't feel that way because
Speaker 2: if he did something fat like and again we're not
Speaker 2: talking about anything like sexual assaulter, leave that out of here,
Speaker 2: just foul like he was a piece of shit, Like whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if we've been married for this long, we got two kids,
Speaker 2: and you're still fuming over your ex in my locker room,
Speaker 2: my self sabotage. His brain is gonna have a problem
Speaker 2: with my wife, like why why are you still so
Speaker 2: like you've moved on. This is of course you were
Speaker 2: mad at the time. I would never be that makes
Speaker 2: total sense. But we've been together for this long, we
Speaker 2: got kids and ship with the fuck that is triggering you?
Speaker 7: Would you hire a new engineer and if he walked
Speaker 7: in here with one of your exes and that was
Speaker 7: his wife and he has two.
Speaker 2: Kids, but you still like job, give me this scenario.
Speaker 2: So if so, we need a new engineer, right, like damn,
Speaker 2: we just use peege like in the Scenariokay, so yeah,
Speaker 2: it's way more fun, but it's nobody. You don't know,
Speaker 2: you don't know him, you don't know, you don't you
Speaker 2: know of him, you know off if we've seen some
Speaker 2: of his work. He's worked on all the shows, like, Nah,
Speaker 2: this dude is dope, you know. And it's like, Yo,
Speaker 2: we're gonna interview him. He's coming in, come in, interview
Speaker 2: great guy. We're like, yeah, Manna, we're gonna hire him.
Speaker 2: Like then, like fucking holiday time come around. He walks
Speaker 2: in the door.
Speaker 7: He's married to a girl like your ex, your ex girlfriend,
Speaker 7: you date it with the two years uh dead now
Speaker 7: like married with two kids?
Speaker 2: Does he still keep the job one hundred percent? I'd
Speaker 2: feel awkward and would want to know how to handle that.
Speaker 2: I'm not just you can't fire him.
Speaker 6: Also, I wouldn't want to know jobs were like the
Speaker 6: women hang out like in baseball, she's going to be
Speaker 6: at the stadium, show you with the team, like kids
Speaker 6: going to be there. The kids will be but he
Speaker 6: doesn't have to see her, which I'm saying that's worse,
Speaker 6: Like the kids and the women are involved. If he
Speaker 6: hired someone here, you're not going to see her. Ever,
Speaker 6: if she's not pulling up, there's gonna be in.
Speaker 2: Why would I Why would I fire the engineer?
Speaker 4: Don't? I don't think you hire somebody.
Speaker 2: Is might be tender you think you're tender. You are
Speaker 2: you trying to go viral?
Speaker 4: Let's do it?
Speaker 2: So you think you tender? Is not going to go viral?
Speaker 2: You think I'm tender? Why I'm asking a question?
Speaker 7: I'm asking him because he's saying like, it wouldn't be awkward,
Speaker 7: and I'm on the side of I think it would
Speaker 7: be awkward.
Speaker 2: No, it would be awkward, but it wouldn't Huh. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't feel awkward because I would want to handle it
Speaker 2: to not make it awkward like they're married. This is
Speaker 2: I don't think there's no way to make it not
Speaker 2: all not like they're just why you just killing I
Speaker 2: was fucking why. Nobody want to disagree with that. It's
Speaker 2: it's always going to be awkward. If a dude is
Speaker 2: married to your ex girlfriend and y'all work together, that's
Speaker 2: what are you talking about. I think you can get
Speaker 2: over that if you don't care about that woman saying
Speaker 2: you married it over it. You can be over it,
Speaker 2: but it's always going to be awkward. Like no, I'm
Speaker 2: just asking what would you do, like, would you hire him?
Speaker 2: Does he know that we used to date? Yeah? Oh,
Speaker 2: then I'd have that conversation with him to let him know, like, yo,
Speaker 2: all good, Just want to if there was any tension
Speaker 2: in the air, like please don't have that. That's I
Speaker 2: would think about this before. I just got to ask
Speaker 2: this question. That's awkward.
Speaker 7: It's always going to be awkward, Like we gotta agree
Speaker 7: to that, no matter what, it's always going to be
Speaker 7: If I think even if she's not around a lot
Speaker 7: anytime she does come in here for the engineer because
Speaker 7: they got to go somewhere, like after he gets over work,
Speaker 7: go to dinner, she meets him at the studio.
Speaker 1: What if they cool and they friends? What if she's
Speaker 1: friends or ex like they will who they were always
Speaker 1: friends with Rory? No, I'm talking about with this situation.
Speaker 1: But yeah with Rory, like she's cool. They were cool.
Speaker 1: New boyfriend come in, but y'all were already cool. I
Speaker 1: don't think that that's awkward. Like I don't think we
Speaker 1: broke up.
Speaker 2: We ended it.
Speaker 8: Whatever you knew I got like she probably so.
Speaker 2: He's saying Stanton and Bellinger like cool.
Speaker 1: No if she if she's cool with she's cool with Stanton.
Speaker 1: She was always cool with him, Like they broke up,
Speaker 1: but they're still like cool. She went and got married.
Speaker 1: He knows she's met, Like, there's no way he This
Speaker 1: dude came out to the team and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's married to my ex. No, he knew they were married,
Speaker 1: he knew they've been together and knew the kids. Like,
Speaker 1: they're probably cool. That's what I'm like. It's probably not
Speaker 1: even a thing.
Speaker 7: I think s like how you said earlier, I'm on
Speaker 7: the opposite side of that. You said if your ex
Speaker 7: is still like human and furious, I asked you, like, nah,
Speaker 7: he must still got some feelings.
Speaker 4: I'm the opposite. If y'all still.
Speaker 2: Cool, I feel like this room for like flirtatious shit
Speaker 2: to happen. Okay, Well, cool doesn't necessarily mean they fucking
Speaker 2: like hang out and go on friends dates or like
Speaker 2: they're just like if they happened to run into each other,
Speaker 2: it would be.
Speaker 4: H oh no, that's that's just being grown.
Speaker 2: That's adopte but cool with an X Like if you
Speaker 2: see them as love but not like your text buddies
Speaker 2: and like you guys go out, she still follows them.
Speaker 8: Uh, I don't relame.
Speaker 1: I'm about my ex that I'm cool. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: unfollow you. What the fuck is the point why I'm
Speaker 1: doing that. That's pressed, bro. If you un following somebody,
Speaker 1: if you if every time somebody women do it though
Speaker 1: you see somebody yeah, because they're bothered. You see somebody
Speaker 1: like and they ignite a passion in you, like you
Speaker 1: just so mad, you so mad. They still have control
Speaker 1: over your emotions. I don't want nobody having control over
Speaker 1: my man emotions but me. When you see her, it
Speaker 1: should be like.
Speaker 2: Yo, what up, y'o? It's nice to see you good,
Speaker 2: that's it? Like, or if y'all cool, y'all cool.
Speaker 1: If you have a friendship, y'a have a friendship, but
Speaker 1: somebody getting you so upset and you shaking with rage
Speaker 1: every time you see them, or you triggered that you
Speaker 1: haven't healed from them, and that I'm good on.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like you've probably been in the situation
Speaker 2: where this girl you hated funny that ended okay, but
Speaker 2: she went on and got a boyfriend posted whatever. You
Speaker 2: end up unfollowed or block you're like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: does that happened to me? And you probably was like
Speaker 2: that's weird, Wow you come on here, and so yeah,
Speaker 2: so what, No, I agree, I'm not disagreeing with you,
Speaker 2: So it works on both sides, Like if she still
Speaker 2: follows her ex's out, I think it's weirder if you
Speaker 2: have to go unfollow all of them when we get together,
Speaker 2: Like now, it's like, why why do you need to
Speaker 2: do that? It's temptation that crazy that you can't even
Speaker 2: see their photo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 7: Either way, it's going to be a little awkward awkward
Speaker 7: at the stadium this coming season.
Speaker 3: What if?
Speaker 2: What if the engineer told me that, you know, he
Speaker 2: had to go out after we record to see his
Speaker 2: wife and kids whatever, pick them up, And then I
Speaker 2: just all of a sudden, it was like, ya, I
Speaker 2: want to do two episodes today. Cancel that. I'll make
Speaker 2: sure we leave here two hours after that.
Speaker 4: That's fucked up.
Speaker 2: And then texts are like, damn, your man doesn't put
Speaker 2: you over his work.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Rory definitely do some shit like you tell me
Speaker 7: to be at the office early tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. Oh my god, I can see it. It's
Speaker 2: in you wouldn't.
Speaker 5: It's not in me.
Speaker 2: It is man. I actually wish I had more.
Speaker 4: Of that in me. I don't have that in me
Speaker 4: to be like yo, tell him myself.
Speaker 2: I don't you get no I just I wish I
Speaker 2: had that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's nasty.
Speaker 2: You can't. I'm just not that person. Julie, we got voicemails. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: you've got mail.
Speaker 4: Why are you smiling?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: I hate when you smile. Don't smile at me.
Speaker 5: I can't smile. What the fuck?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: I just found out something really funny about Stanton. Oh
Speaker 6: I think we're asking most Oh my god. Yeah, it's
Speaker 6: such a random person that he follows.
Speaker 2: It's very funny to me.
Speaker 3: All Right, hey, guys, what's up? So I have a
Speaker 3: question about how to maneuver after this situation. So I
Speaker 3: became friends with this girl back in June and became
Speaker 3: like super close friends, you know, went over to each
Speaker 3: other's houses, accompanying each other everywhere, jim everything, the whole
Speaker 3: nine yards. And for my birth day back in November,
Speaker 3: we were supposed to go see a concert and I
Speaker 3: was supposed to be me for context at twenty seven,
Speaker 3: and she's thirty three, and so it was her and
Speaker 3: meet her son who's like thirteen, and my little sister
Speaker 3: who's seventeen. Fast forward to that week of the concert
Speaker 3: and my birthday, she says, hey, can you take me
Speaker 3: to l e x after the concert. Keep in mind,
Speaker 3: the concert was in Anaheim, so it's very different locations.
Speaker 3: I first said yes because she put me on the spot.
Speaker 3: Then I changed my mind. She got mad and she
Speaker 3: was like, well, can you at least take my son
Speaker 3: to the concert? And I said I don't feel comfortable
Speaker 3: with that responsibility and she got mad. So she was
Speaker 3: set up with my step son, followed me on social
Speaker 3: media and like, isn't talking to me anymore? So I
Speaker 3: see her at church every now and then I see
Speaker 3: her sister's at church, So like, what am I supposed
Speaker 3: to do? Yeah, I just I don't know what to do,
Speaker 3: Like I'm done with that friendship, But what do I
Speaker 3: do moving forward in terms of if I see her
Speaker 3: around her family around Thanks guys, and thanks for everything.
Speaker 7: She on followed you because you couldn't. You didn't feel
Speaker 7: comfortable taking her son to the concert with you and
Speaker 7: your little sister. You said you didn't want to take
Speaker 7: her to lax from Anaheim. Except that's deep, that's a push.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she finally figured out you're not a friend.
Speaker 2: I think that's what that is.
Speaker 7: Like she was trying to like, yo, you don't all
Speaker 7: right if you you're not comfortable taking my son to
Speaker 7: the concert, so I can just go straight to the
Speaker 7: airport instead of it happened to go to the airport
Speaker 7: after the concert.
Speaker 2: I would. I would do that for a friend. I
Speaker 2: would take their son.
Speaker 1: Especially because you were going anyway, and like the risk
Speaker 1: you're saying a responsibility.
Speaker 8: He's thirteen, it ain't like he eighteen or two.
Speaker 2: Why I've been quiet and thinking is we don't really
Speaker 2: know about this thirteen year old son. I'm on the
Speaker 2: side of the information we have. I would happily. Why
Speaker 2: in I would?
Speaker 4: I would?
Speaker 2: I would take what concert?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 2: That's why I was hesitating, because we don't know enough
Speaker 2: about this son yet, Like this son would be nuts
Speaker 2: taking a thirteen year old role in loud, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of responsibilities rolling loud. No, all my
Speaker 2: friend's kids, luckily I know to be they're crazy, but
Speaker 2: they're not nuts. I would take them to a concert.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I mean, what if this kid
Speaker 2: is out of it? What if you got a sisty
Speaker 2: on and she had her daughter too, right, she had
Speaker 2: a little sister, Like what if he's been fucking rude before?
Speaker 2: And like't he doesn't she doesn't want her little sister
Speaker 2: around him.
Speaker 1: Well, they were already going to the concert altogether, so
Speaker 1: that's not true.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 2: But that's different if the mother is there to control
Speaker 2: her fucking son. Now I'm responsible.
Speaker 5: Are you paying this kid like a terrorist?
Speaker 6: Because I'm because because he was a terrorist, that's yeah.
Speaker 6: Or it's like what if he bring his matches? It's
Speaker 6: the whole place on fire.
Speaker 2: I didn't even give a peep at the Heartbreaker toward
Speaker 2: when my mom took me Heartbreakers? What were you gonna
Speaker 2: do at the Mariah carry show? Hope jay Z comes
Speaker 2: up to do It's heart record versus Yeah, nah.
Speaker 7: I think she just realized that, all right, we're not
Speaker 7: as cool as I thought we were. We were not
Speaker 7: as close as I thought we were. You don't want
Speaker 7: to take my son to the concert that you're already
Speaker 7: going to with your little sister. You don't want to
Speaker 7: renigged on taking me to the airport.
Speaker 1: That's far though, Yeah, but don't agree to it and
Speaker 1: then renig and then on top of that, after the renig,
Speaker 1: because you were wrong, Renig.
Speaker 2: That's how people say it. That's why I don't There's
Speaker 2: so many times I want to use that word because
Speaker 2: it makes sense in context and it's not that other word.
Speaker 4: But I'm not renag.
Speaker 5: It's not nig, it's nagged.
Speaker 2: I've heard everyone use well people you're yeah, what's that
Speaker 2: like when you is that blackface? This black face on
Speaker 2: black faces? Like if I was ree, it's it's a
Speaker 2: black spade.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Nice, Wait, so I'm confused.
Speaker 2: On the airport, you didn't have your book straight in
Speaker 2: this fucking aspect on the airports, it's a black spade.
Speaker 2: She said she was going to bring her and then
Speaker 2: said psych or that's fucked up. And again, I agree,
Speaker 2: this is all fucked up. I just think there's more
Speaker 2: to this story than what we've got, and she doesn't
Speaker 2: want to say that that kid is a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what's though, she's just not like willing
Speaker 6: to go to the extent of being the type of
Speaker 6: friend this this this woman thought show us the type
Speaker 6: of friends friends go out of.
Speaker 4: Your way for each other. Yeah, so she's not.
Speaker 7: She didn't want to go out of her way to
Speaker 7: go from Anahom to Lax. She didn't want to go
Speaker 7: out of her way and take the responsibility of chaperone
Speaker 7: her son at the concert, like, so the other girl
Speaker 7: probably felt like, all right, well then you're not really
Speaker 7: my friend. Wow, why are we speaking to each other?
Speaker 7: Why are we hanging out? Why am I following you
Speaker 7: on so im mediate? Like where not the schools I
Speaker 7: thought we were? So, I mean, I can understand that,
Speaker 7: but I would like for her to call back and
Speaker 7: let us know who was performing, what concert was it,
Speaker 7: because if it was like blank one eighty two, then
Speaker 7: it's like, you know.
Speaker 2: Can well who's performed?
Speaker 6: Well, if we don't know when this it has a
Speaker 6: date on the voicemail, I know, well the call versus
Speaker 6: when it.
Speaker 7: Rory wants all all the past concerts and anahem in
Speaker 7: the last two years, pull it up.
Speaker 2: Now six days ago. I'm sure we can figure it out.
Speaker 2: Perform anam in the last two years.
Speaker 8: But she asked she wanted to know what to do
Speaker 8: with her now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she said they still go to the same church.
Speaker 5: They still they're still going to see each other in
Speaker 5: the community.
Speaker 2: Ask her why you did that and what you're feeling
Speaker 2: a way about.
Speaker 1: No, she says she knows why she did it. She
Speaker 1: says she was done with the friendship. She doesn't want
Speaker 1: anything to do with the friendship. So she's like, well,
Speaker 1: what do I do?
Speaker 8: Ignore her?
Speaker 1: The way she's ignoring you and blocked you, she's already
Speaker 1: said you don't she don't want you in her life.
Speaker 1: So the girl said that, yeah, well she I mean,
Speaker 1: well she blocked her on everything, so I would assume
Speaker 1: you don't want me in your life.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But girls do that just out of like like
Speaker 2: an impulse when they get upset. Like if you have
Speaker 2: a conversation an hour after that and they realized they
Speaker 2: was tripping. Yeah, you know, manipulation. I get it, though, man, listen,
Speaker 2: you know it's over. Yeah, And now think of it
Speaker 2: this way. You don't have to have that crazy thirteen
Speaker 2: year old Drolud in your life. Fuck that kid. And
Speaker 2: you don't have to drive to lax Anaheim. It's not
Speaker 2: that long with dr It's like forty minutes. It's the
Speaker 2: same way from Drawing probably from West Hollywood, hell no something,
Speaker 2: depending on what's time, it'll take you forty five minutes
Speaker 2: from West Hop I agree, And I'm saying from Anaheim
Speaker 2: that shit will take you two hours.
Speaker 4: I mean if it's traffic, yeah, but typically it's like
Speaker 4: under hour.
Speaker 1: That's deep but it's four twenty eight right now, and
Speaker 1: Julian just looked it up and it said it's only
Speaker 1: forty eight minutes in traffic.
Speaker 2: No, because right now, Yeah, which is like the least
Speaker 2: traffic time That shit is an hour and a half
Speaker 2: depending on what time or flight was.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but after a concert late at night, it wouldn't
Speaker 7: have been that much traffic. Fair, I was catching a
Speaker 7: red eye.
Speaker 2: Fair. I mean, either way, set your boundaries with your
Speaker 2: friends early. I would do anything for my friends except
Speaker 2: help them move.
Speaker 5: M pay.
Speaker 2: I would pay for the truck before I would help
Speaker 2: you fucking move. I'm just not that's one of my things.
Speaker 2: I'm curious, not helping you move.
Speaker 6: Do they have a friend group or was this just
Speaker 6: like a one off friends that you may think it
Speaker 6: was just a one off friends because then it's like
Speaker 6: who gets the group? Who gets the mutuals? Like where
Speaker 6: does the line get drawn? If it's a birthday party,
Speaker 6: if it's a dinner of party, like what the church church?
Speaker 2: After? Yeah? Which table? Fold out table? Do you say that?
Speaker 1: Have y'all ever been through that where you had to
Speaker 1: give up a friend group because y'all stop being cool
Speaker 1: with one of the friends in the friend group.
Speaker 4: Like like a like a group chet or just like
Speaker 4: the whole circle of home crew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess, I guess. So anything that I
Speaker 2: was like, oh fuck, not the whole group, anything but
Speaker 2: the whole group, Like I've he was okay with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I stopped.
Speaker 2: I stopped talking to a bunch of people like I'm
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, no, I'm cool. I don't know another voice.
Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2: My name is Manny.
Speaker 9: I'm from Connecticut. So I just had the weirdest experience,
Speaker 9: and I just want to know if this is some
Speaker 9: New York shiit, and also about cell phone etiquette. So
Speaker 9: I randomly went to wine liquor store the other day
Speaker 9: and I just wanted to run in and grab a
Speaker 9: bottle of wine. And I was on the phone with
Speaker 9: my friend whatever that I'm on the phone with her
Speaker 9: and I get my bottle. One somebody comes up asks
Speaker 9: me by me help, I say no, thank you. I'm
Speaker 9: still shopping around. I go to go pay. A man
Speaker 9: comes from the back of the store to interrupt the call.
Speaker 9: To interrupt the transaction.
Speaker 8: I'm having to go.
Speaker 2: Oh, we asked that if you're going.
Speaker 9: To interact with our staff, you not be on the
Speaker 9: phone and pointed to a no cell phone sting.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 9: I understand it was rude, but it's like if I
Speaker 9: was screaming on the phone things like that. I was
Speaker 9: literally just on the phone with my friend.
Speaker 8: So long story, show it, but not really.
Speaker 9: I was like, so you don't want to do the
Speaker 9: sale and I just walked out. So because I'm petty,
Speaker 9: I left. I left a review on Google Map and
Speaker 9: he sent this nasty He has a few back on
Speaker 9: Google reviews and he was like, so essentially said that
Speaker 9: I yelled at him, and I didn't yell at him,
Speaker 9: So now I have so you're yelling.
Speaker 2: Now Number one house?
Speaker 9: Could I plan my vengeance against this store?
Speaker 5: Number two?
Speaker 9: What is cell phone in twenty twenty four and everybody's
Speaker 9: on the phone?
Speaker 2: And number three?
Speaker 9: Uh, should I let it go?
Speaker 2: And the name of the.
Speaker 9: Place is Free Range Wine and Spirits and looked them up.
Speaker 9: He's an asshole.
Speaker 2: He's an asshole. So this was all about to kill
Speaker 2: a small business, use our platform to do it. After
Speaker 2: you yelled at him in his face and when you
Speaker 2: were on there, I definitely yelled at him.
Speaker 8: The mom and pop small He's just looking at it
Speaker 8: right now?
Speaker 2: All right, while you're looking that up, I guess if
Speaker 2: it's on Atlantic, then here it is. Can you read it? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I was on the phone. This is from a week ago.
Speaker 6: I was on the phone and talking to a person
Speaker 6: I was buying wine for as a not a big
Speaker 6: wine drinker. I was attempting to buy a bottle of
Speaker 6: wine and I was debating getting some nips for myself
Speaker 6: at the register. Before I could order, a man came
Speaker 6: from the back of the store to point it to
Speaker 6: the note phone sign and stop right the phone.
Speaker 7: Since when can you not be on your phone in
Speaker 7: a wine square? I think everybody's kind of like, we're
Speaker 7: reading this shit acting like this is normal. I've never
Speaker 7: even heard of this before.
Speaker 2: What is that you said?
Speaker 6: I don't know how my being on the phone impacted
Speaker 6: my ability to pay, so I left at it.
Speaker 5: The response here's a response?
Speaker 2: Wait, what was that edit up there?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 5: Well you gotta because that comes after this.
Speaker 2: Gotcha?
Speaker 4: Who was just the response?
Speaker 2: Owner of this? Nice try, Madison. You had already selected
Speaker 2: your wine when you came to the calendar, so at
Speaker 2: this point, the only reason to be on the phone
Speaker 2: was that you felt like it and couldn't be bothered
Speaker 2: to respect the humans in front of you.
Speaker 5: This is this is fuck yourself.
Speaker 2: I calmly pointed at our signs.
Speaker 7: I cammonly pointed out our signs asking you to not
Speaker 7: be on the phone at the counter, and said that
Speaker 7: if you'd like to interact with us, we'd appreciate it
Speaker 7: if you'd get off the phone. At this you immediately
Speaker 7: yelled at me and huffed out Was our request really
Speaker 7: that hard for you? I'm sorry that you don't have
Speaker 7: enough respect for our little shop to follow postal signs.
Speaker 7: But it's on you if you really don't understand how
Speaker 7: rude it is to be on the phone in the
Speaker 7: face of a retail worker. The minimum level of common
Speaker 7: courtesy to shop here, and you feel the most.
Speaker 2: Base success Jesus, we were glad. We were glad to
Speaker 2: see you leave and laughed about it afterwards. If you
Speaker 2: like to shop here in the future, you owe in
Speaker 2: apology to our team, but giving your tangent at being
Speaker 2: addressed calmly, respectfully, we don't expect to see you again,
Speaker 2: which certainly works for us.
Speaker 4: Good riddance Jack.
Speaker 5: For her, this sounds like.
Speaker 2: Wine, like organic wine. Hybrid wine stores in Brooklyn. This
Speaker 2: is definitely this is definitely a vegan wine store. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So then she ran an edit replying to his reply,
Speaker 6: uh edit for reaction below. Was expecting a sassy response
Speaker 6: given the history of reactions to other reviews.
Speaker 5: Oh smoked.
Speaker 2: No one yelled at you.
Speaker 6: I said, oh, so you can't do the sale and
Speaker 6: walked out. I'm curious why everyone else got a sassy,
Speaker 6: wouldy reply, and I gotta lie.
Speaker 5: Hmm, they should fight now.
Speaker 2: Listen, Jack did have a great response, But let's go
Speaker 2: to the root of this entire thing. If I'm on
Speaker 2: the fucking phone and I'm not like being obnoxious or screaming,
Speaker 2: don't tell me to get it.
Speaker 4: I've never heard about this before.
Speaker 2: Okay, look, there seems to be some evidence that supports
Speaker 2: our caller. There's something very wrong with these guys who
Speaker 2: scrolled up.
Speaker 6: Well, here's another one annoying the worker. It's very unpleasant experience.
Speaker 2: Jack just sounds like an asshole.
Speaker 4: Jack.
Speaker 6: So this woman wanted cold Perseco and they said, what's wrong?
Speaker 6: Just buy this ship and put it in the fridge.
Speaker 2: That sick you don't have a fridge. I mean, I
Speaker 2: get like, I get stores having like boundaries happy with
Speaker 2: the vibe of this place.
Speaker 7: Owner's knowledgeable staff are like unhappy drones. I want to
Speaker 7: go special occasion bottles of wanting to be brought here,
Speaker 7: but it's not worth the rude customer service you have
Speaker 7: to endure it to get them buying alcoholism would be
Speaker 7: a fun and light experience.
Speaker 6: Will never be read the response from the owner. Here's
Speaker 6: Jack again, clapping back.
Speaker 7: It was the height of the pandemic. I wonder why
Speaker 7: everybody wasn't super happy at that all the time.
Speaker 2: A real mystery. Thank you for the passion. Jack could
Speaker 2: understand it. I know, I know on everyone else aside,
Speaker 2: but Jack's clapbacks is all right? Where's them? Not even mad?
Speaker 2: At Jack Bro's on Atlantic in Brooklyn? Free wine? We
Speaker 2: should go free range and wine spirits. Let's go and
Speaker 2: ask for Jack free range. But we got to walk
Speaker 2: in in with the old school cell phones. Can you
Speaker 2: hear me?
Speaker 3: Now? Can you hear me? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Where's jackig? Jack? Jack? That's definitely hundred it's illegal that
Speaker 2: we're doing this. But that's Jack, that smug fucking face,
Speaker 2: that's definitely him.
Speaker 8: He's a fucking asshole, that's Jack.
Speaker 2: He has diesel sneakers, on. But what I will want
Speaker 2: assure to a band he doesn't listen to. It just
Speaker 2: looks vintage.
Speaker 1: What I will say is this, if I own a business,
Speaker 1: my rules for my business are my business. You are
Speaker 1: free to not shop, but if I have a sign
Speaker 1: up that says no cell phones, because I want you.
Speaker 8: To pay attention to my work.
Speaker 1: Because me personally, I don't disagree with him that it's
Speaker 1: rude to be on the phone where you're talking to
Speaker 1: retail workers.
Speaker 2: I do think that that's rude.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: I get it that we do it all the time,
Speaker 1: but I'm not I'm not mad at somebody for asking that.
Speaker 2: In situations like if you're shopping for clothes and you
Speaker 2: need to tell them certain sizes or have a conversation,
Speaker 2: I agree with you. You should have some respect. But
Speaker 2: if I fund the bottle I want and I'm at
Speaker 2: the register, if I'm going to bottle down, scan, scan it,
Speaker 2: here's my card, we don't need to speak.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to hang up just for you to
Speaker 6: scan this bottle and then call my person back to
Speaker 6: finish our conversation.
Speaker 2: But you don't have to hang up.
Speaker 8: You could just say hold on and put the phone
Speaker 8: in your pocket and pay.
Speaker 2: Out of respect. Like when I get in the elevator,
Speaker 2: I will make sure I'm not on the phone. That
Speaker 2: annoys me too. But if you're paying, it's not like
Speaker 2: she was on the phone and was asking him is
Speaker 2: this from New Zealand? What year is this?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: Being that annoying customer that needs so much help, but
Speaker 2: also having another conversation what are we doing here? Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you got a bottle, you put it down and
Speaker 2: give your card. What do we need to speak?
Speaker 4: Listen, man, looking at looking at these reviews, it's Jack.
Speaker 2: He's a jack.
Speaker 4: It's Jack. Everybody's a This place is so rude.
Speaker 6: They have a four point one that's not awful, like
Speaker 6: every single one star and every single complaint has to
Speaker 6: do with their them being condescending.
Speaker 5: Or rude to the customers.
Speaker 2: Also, the only happy people on Earth during the pandemic
Speaker 2: were liquor store owners because they were making more money
Speaker 2: than anyone. Don't tell me you were unpleasant, Jack, right?
Speaker 2: You probably still eating off twenty she said.
Speaker 7: Stopped in about fifteen minutes ago inquiring about a bottle.
Speaker 7: The guy behind the counter legit acted like I was
Speaker 7: bothering him. Blew a two hundred dollar purchase. Looking at
Speaker 7: some prior reviews, apparently I'm not the only one who
Speaker 7: had this issue. He goes, this is Jack, Harold, Harold,
Speaker 7: just as the website says that item was out of stock,
Speaker 7: we couldn't have possibly sold your bottle. We didn't have Further,
Speaker 7: our in store system is separate from the website, which
Speaker 7: is why you were told that what it says about
Speaker 7: Stock Junior on the website is accurate, which it is
Speaker 7: showing out of stock. I'm sorry for the miscommunication, but
Speaker 7: if you prefer to hear about rare whiskeys when they
Speaker 7: arrive and have access to our rarest bottles, which are
Speaker 7: not on the website, rather than hate us forever, please
Speaker 7: feel free to sign up for our email use what
Speaker 7: so you can.
Speaker 2: Talk to me all the time. Jack. It's over, and
Speaker 2: Jack sounds like a hypocrite because he wanted respect from
Speaker 2: the woman on her cell phone, But it sounds like
Speaker 2: he's an asshole to every customer. It's not like he's
Speaker 2: some go lucky happy guy that's like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: we want to create a great environment, so get off
Speaker 2: your phone. We love the community.
Speaker 7: Somebody said avoid this place. Zero customer service, will never
Speaker 7: buy there.
Speaker 2: I just put my foot down. Recently at a coffee
Speaker 2: spot by Kia, my favorite, your favorite coffee, the first
Speaker 2: coffee I ever had. The owner is the only guy
Speaker 2: that works there. He's it's like an inconvenience. Every time
Speaker 2: I come in there, there's no one in there. He
Speaker 2: treats make an.
Speaker 6: Asshole, horrible service, annoying and rude staff. Jack replies, we agree,
Speaker 6: you were annoying and rude. Happy Holidays.
Speaker 8: I don't know, I'm kind of fucking with Jack.
Speaker 2: I'm fucking with Jack. He's running awful bit. We gotta
Speaker 2: go fuck with Jack. We gotta get the old cell
Speaker 2: phones now, we gotta run up on him for our
Speaker 2: Patreon subscriber. Yeah, but I'm just saying we got to
Speaker 2: go in in and just you know, be rude and
Speaker 2: then buy bottles. All right, So she asked for advice
Speaker 2: on how to spite this spot. Oh what if it's
Speaker 2: one of those new spots where you're supposed to be
Speaker 2: rude on purpose, Like, oh no, they're not selling oxtail.
Speaker 2: This guy's just a smoke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you know when they be like come in
Speaker 4: and just like the waiters are rude too, Like what
Speaker 4: the hell do you needed, bitch?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like that Jack doesn't seem like that type
Speaker 2: of I'm just saying, what if that's the type of
Speaker 2: spot he's running? You know? She was asking what she
Speaker 2: should do to spite the spot Atlantic Is that would
Speaker 2: be a public sidewalk correct or rock.
Speaker 5: To that window, piss a ship on the sidewalk.
Speaker 8: I could just let it go.
Speaker 6: I would no, God, no, never let it go. This
Speaker 6: is going to be a lifelong grudge LinkedIn Oh my god,
Speaker 6: is the Jack is the ops?
Speaker 5: It's him.
Speaker 2: It's definitely. That's like the same shirt he posed for
Speaker 2: that fucking pick on Google. That's the os, Maddie, we're
Speaker 2: gonna ride if we're gonna ride for you. I think
Speaker 2: she should set a fold up table in front of
Speaker 2: that spot because it's Atlantic Avenue, it's public sidewalk, and
Speaker 2: take all her meetings and work work from home on
Speaker 2: her cell phone in front of that.
Speaker 6: Spot, open up a call center outside there, d make
Speaker 6: a bottle, start curating your own bottles of wine and
Speaker 6: then sell them outside his store. Do free wine tastings,
Speaker 6: and then sell the bottles outside his store, undercut his prices.
Speaker 7: Yeah, his spot is called free range wine. You could
Speaker 7: just just say free wine, free wine, right in front
Speaker 7: of it.
Speaker 2: There's got to be a streaming farm version of calling
Speaker 2: one number. Just do that to their landline.
Speaker 4: We should jack Jack right now.
Speaker 2: We should call Jack.
Speaker 5: I'll call him.
Speaker 4: Let's see Jack answers.
Speaker 2: Call him right now?
Speaker 4: Jack?
Speaker 2: Can you plug? You allow cell phone? That's my that's
Speaker 2: my one rule when it comes to buying wine, to
Speaker 2: be able to be on my phone. I'm literally gonna
Speaker 2: say that's exactly I got this. This is gonna be great.
Speaker 2: Do you have white zipfindel and can I be on
Speaker 2: my phone?
Speaker 6: Hi?
Speaker 5: I just have a quick question.
Speaker 2: Is this Jack?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Is Jack available by chance?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: Oh, he's not?
Speaker 2: Okay? Is he on his phone?
Speaker 6: If I yeah, I just I might come in later,
Speaker 6: but it might be in the middle of a call.
Speaker 6: Like I work late. Sometimes I'm trying to I'm planning
Speaker 6: on coming in after work. If is it a problem
Speaker 6: if I like shop around and it's like happen to
Speaker 6: be on my phone while I'm in the store.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not our favorite thing, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna Oh, Derek, was that such a bad?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 6: I'm just curious, Is this like did something bad happen
Speaker 6: And that's why I'm asking because.
Speaker 5: I know you have signs involved.
Speaker 4: Signs involved?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I mean you know if are you on
Speaker 9: our newsletter?
Speaker 8: Do you get our newsletter?
Speaker 2: I'm sure about it. We're big, big newsletter guys.
Speaker 9: Definitely not the optimal way to be helping people.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 5: If I go in.
Speaker 6: If I go in, know exactly the bottle I want,
Speaker 6: grab it, run of the register, the order ahead.
Speaker 2: Put you in a pickle.
Speaker 3: For you.
Speaker 2: Can I be on a zoom call if I do
Speaker 2: it that way though? Okay, but yeah, then I might
Speaker 2: they might want me on camera to take all right, Well,
Speaker 2: what's your WiFi so I can bring my laptop?
Speaker 5: Do you guys?
Speaker 2: Have you have a hotspot? You have hotspot? Derek, what
Speaker 2: are some of your favorite things? Since that's not your
Speaker 2: favorite thing, we look. We wanted to call and give
Speaker 2: Jack a hard time.
Speaker 1: Derek.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Derek. Now you're you're great.
Speaker 6: We just haven't heard it. You're you're a new character
Speaker 6: in this development. We've only heard about Jack. I'll call
Speaker 6: back later. You You've been great. Jack, on the other hand,
Speaker 6: we'll get to him later. We love his business plany,
Speaker 6: We love we love you.
Speaker 2: Though, I appreciate you.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Luigi says, hello, all right, Jack is the next the
Speaker 2: next CEO. He's the next CEO to go.
Speaker 5: This is awesome, Luigi.
Speaker 2: Says hello, because there's something very similar about denying health
Speaker 2: coverage and denying cell phone. It's like the least favorite
Speaker 2: thing you could do in here? What's that is crazy?
Speaker 2: That's kind of like on our list of not It's
Speaker 2: like the whole thing, isn't that kind of like the
Speaker 2: job when it comes to retail though, you just that's
Speaker 2: the gig. You have to deal with people. It's customer service,
Speaker 2: like people are not always going to be kind. Fuck Jack,
Speaker 2: he said, Yo, I got to take my cod mom.
Speaker 4: Don't you just order a head?
Speaker 2: He smoked, he's smoking. We'll have it ready for you.
Speaker 4: Just pay and go. Damn.
Speaker 5: That is funny that he's stopped.
Speaker 2: What's the difference between that. We saw how big that
Speaker 2: wine shop is. It's not that big. If I just
Speaker 2: grabbed the bottle on the phone and do the same thing,
Speaker 2: what's the difference.
Speaker 5: It's no difference, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: That sounded like Derek thinks, can we find the no
Speaker 2: cell phone.
Speaker 6: Sign if I skin around, let's say, if we could
Speaker 6: find it she posted it, right, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: It might be either. I feel like in one of
Speaker 2: those reviews it was there. Wait, how is jackets everywhere? Man?
Speaker 2: He's like the butler and mister Deeds. She just appears
Speaker 2: in every place. How was he right there? And he's
Speaker 2: moving to camera and he's setting up like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he literally by himself. No, it's definitely Derek behind the lens. Derek.
Speaker 5: This is all this may have been.
Speaker 2: It might be outside on like a little chalkboard thing
Speaker 2: like in front of the store. Let's go outside here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right there? What does that sign say?
Speaker 2: And first of all, mall was right like with it
Speaker 2: being vegan wine, but not so I know, free range chicken.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of free range wine. Yeah, the grapes
Speaker 2: are not in containers.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the soil is not, like they don't use like
Speaker 7: animals to you know, fertilize the soil.
Speaker 2: Oh. I thought free range chicken meant they had space
Speaker 2: and weren't like shitting on top of each other. They
Speaker 2: could run on the range before they were. The grapes
Speaker 2: like they have a little more room to wiggle so
Speaker 2: is that what it means with the grapes?
Speaker 5: Huh? The bottoms like the street signs?
Speaker 1: Yo, is y'all really looking for this no cell phone sign?
Speaker 1: If we can't find it either? Could our caller man?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're on her side, ain't Maddie. We're gonna rob
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 2: Don't trip That ship's hilarious. Yeah, it's on sight with Jack. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just the eyebrow raise. What is that sticker? He put
Speaker 2: a produce sticker on his Apple monitor.
Speaker 5: It's quirky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Jack, Jack outed himself, this could have been
Speaker 2: a great place.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could have.
Speaker 4: Yo, it could have only if we can use our phones.
Speaker 2: Jack, there's gotta be some baggage. I wish Jack answered,
Speaker 2: not Derek. There's got to be a reason I'm down there.
Speaker 2: Did Jack's X walk in on the phone with her
Speaker 2: new dude? There's gotta be a reason you just don't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was afraid to get Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a I'm afraid to get robbed thing? What
Speaker 1: like you walking in on the phone causing a distraction, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's distracting.
Speaker 2: He might be autistic.
Speaker 1: Homie said, that's our least favorite thing because over because
Speaker 1: that's over stimulating me being on my phone. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm going to ask you for your ID and
Speaker 1: you're on the phone talking to somebody and there's music
Speaker 1: in the store playing, that is an autistic person's like, mare.
Speaker 2: I will turn the musical for your phone call. You
Speaker 2: can get the fuck out. No, you're right, okay, But
Speaker 2: what would be the difference if they were talking to
Speaker 2: you while asking Friday?
Speaker 1: That's because that's complete because they are. That's completely different.
Speaker 1: If you're talking to me, we're involved in one conversation.
Speaker 1: If I ask, you're not a conversation.
Speaker 2: You put a bottle down and we're going to do
Speaker 2: a currency exchange.
Speaker 8: No, you do what you ask for ID. I'm assuming
Speaker 8: I know he asked for ID.
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no way Jack's not ask He has fake ID?
Speaker 2: Is that he he submitted to the post office everyfiscating
Speaker 2: he locks.
Speaker 7: The door and closed the cops. If you have a
Speaker 7: fake I know that face, that face right there, he
Speaker 7: can't wait to lock that door. I had the cops
Speaker 7: come get you with a fake ID.
Speaker 2: And even offers to go down to the station if
Speaker 2: they need any I'll give a report. I'll give a report, sir.
Speaker 2: You need me to shut the shop and follow you,
Speaker 2: I'll go.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The cops are annoyed at this point the amount of
Speaker 2: times he calls yeah, Jack, count your days. We don't
Speaker 2: like you.
Speaker 7: Oh man, Well, Maddie, thank you for that. We will
Speaker 7: be paying Jack a visit on your behalf. Uh slam
Speaker 7: some bottles of white zipping Dale on the floor.
Speaker 2: We got a DM Maddie. Let her know the time too.
Speaker 2: What you gotta roll with?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: We we got count of holidays.
Speaker 4: Oh no, we got oneway.
Speaker 5: We're still working out one more.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, I'm tripping off.
Speaker 2: You want to make fun of me? Did you guys
Speaker 2: see this yet? I saw you post it on Twitter, Maul.
Speaker 2: I'm way more curious about what you think.
Speaker 4: I didn't see it. Wait, I'm looking Okay, con air
Speaker 4: Man Titan him cut, lads, you're.
Speaker 2: Not even cutting.
Speaker 5: That's the whole thing I'm cutting.
Speaker 2: That was a nasty smile.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was kind of gross.
Speaker 2: Oh oh god, oh my god. Wait all right, you
Speaker 2: just been another episode. Man. You came in here with
Speaker 2: your beard and everything. You ain't tell us you fucking
Speaker 2: waxed your chest. I didn't wax it.
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 2: I didn't wax it. It's a part of the shoe.
Speaker 2: Congratulate your con Air commercial. You know what's funny. I'm
Speaker 2: sure he feels violated because they made him do his pubes,
Speaker 2: but it didn't make the cut. So now he's wondering
Speaker 2: why he had to do that for the director's Personalsh
Speaker 2: His favorite shot was the it's the motor side that one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the food Land shoe.
Speaker 8: This is gross?
Speaker 2: What made you laugh that way?
Speaker 6: They wanted to do a lot of inappropriate comments off camera.
Speaker 6: Thankfully a lot of these aren't audio, or else they
Speaker 6: probably wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: How much did they pay you for this? On somebody
Speaker 2: not on camera? No, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6: But I'm on Amazon. If you guys want to trimmor dope,
Speaker 6: that's me. Yeah, I get no points. It's not like
Speaker 6: it's a job. It's not like a sponsorship that you.
Speaker 1: Sign up to be an Amazon associate and put the
Speaker 1: link in your bio. Then people will click on your
Speaker 1: name and click it and you will get paid.
Speaker 2: Did Yeah, instead of just being a piece of meat
Speaker 2: for the director, right, have some respect for yourself, Julia.
Speaker 2: That's for equity and all all rasers moving forward because
Speaker 2: you cut your beard. But this was fun. We will
Speaker 2: see you guys soon. Had a great time. Fuck Jack,
Speaker 2: we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe, be blessed.
Speaker 4: I'm not nigga, he's just ginger. Happy holiday, No WILLI
Speaker 4: eno