1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: All you need is self belief. I want you to 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: have that you can do anything as well. 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily a body here bringing you Episode one 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty of Hurdle, a wellness fogus podcast where 5 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: I sit down with inspiring individuals to talk about everything 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: from their big wines to how they've gotten through some 7 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: of life's toughest moments. On the show, you can expect vulnerability, motivation, 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: and candid discussions with everyone from top athletes to aspiring 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: entrepreneurs on what it really takes to follow your passions. 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,319 Speaker 2: My mission is simple to inspire you to be your 11 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: best self, move with intention, and have some fun along 12 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: the way. For today's episode, I am chatting with Miles 13 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: Chamley Watson. He's an Olympic fencer, a red Bull and 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 2: Nike sponsored athlete, and this was a lot of fun. 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: Standing at around six foot three, Miles is not typically 16 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: what you would expect to see from a vencer, and 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: he loves that. In fact, he has used that motivation 18 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: to propel himself through his career, facing a slew of 19 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: hurdles along the way. In episode one point thirty today 20 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: we talk all about that and how from a young 21 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: age he faced a lot of criticism about his choice 22 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: in sports. 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And also, oh my god, I can't 82 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: believe I'm putting this into the world. Exciting tidbit in 83 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: the life of me. I am officially going to be 84 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 2: crazy and run a virtual New York Marathon in November. 85 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: So if you two are making some plans to do that, 86 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: no matter where you might be, I'd love to rap 87 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 2: about it. Feel free to shoot me a dm an email, 88 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: whether it's about running or whatever. I'm always here for you. 89 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: It's Emily at hurdle dot us. And with that, let's 90 00:05:45,160 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: get to hurdling today. I'm so down with Miles Chamley Watson. 91 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: He is an Olympic fencer. How are you doing today? 92 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic. No complaints here, just walk in and 93 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: staying in shape. 94 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: How about yourself, I'm pretty good. I am a little 95 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: sad to know that you recently left good old New 96 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: York in favor of the West Coast. How's it treating you. 97 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: Well? Never in my life thought I would move to California, 98 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: but you know, during these times, we all kind of 99 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: never thought what would we be doing? So I was 100 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: in New York City for six years, no, seven years. 101 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: Loved it, still is my firite place wasith London obviously, 102 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: and unfortunately I couldn't really train in New York, so 103 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: I had to kind of relocate for a little bit 104 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: since I California has got a lot more space also 105 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: for like some peace of mind, which I think is 106 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: key during this time. 107 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure you mentioned London. People can hear it 108 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: in your voice. Did you grow up there? 109 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was born in London. I moved to 110 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: New York City with my mom and my stepdad and 111 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: my sister when I was about ten years old. I 112 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: was actually extremely not happy to be moving to New 113 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: York because, you know, London boy and moved here and 114 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: kind of fun love with it right away. Actually some 115 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: similarities but also a lot of differences. But I'm grateful 116 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: to be able to kind of grow up and both 117 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: and see the world. 118 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: Some similarity, some differences. What would you say was the 119 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: biggest adjustment point for you when you were that young 120 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: moving over to New York. 121 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: I think for me being that young, moving from London 122 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: was a The way I spoke was sports. They didn't 123 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: even know what football was, or to American soccer, that 124 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: was my favorite sport growing up. Couldn't go to the 125 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: corner shop couldn't have my fish and chips. Also, I 126 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: just missed my friends, you know a lot, and I 127 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: was kind of culturally were very different. But also like, 128 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: but you know, soat there's great people in New York 129 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: City as well, And I think both places like London 130 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: and New York are kind of both melting pots in 131 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: own different way. So I think that was easier to 132 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: kind of get adjusted to as opposed if I was 133 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: moved from London to la or something. 134 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, were you poked fun out a bit for being 135 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: a little bit different when you came here? 136 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, massive like I was. Every time a teacher 137 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: would ask me to go you know, retaping out loud, 138 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: I have to say four times because like my accent, 139 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: they'd all ask me to say that the lou the lift. 140 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: And then also like I was, you know, mixed race 141 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: in London, like you know, half white, half black is 142 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: a lot different than there wasn't that many of them 143 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: in the public school that I went to, So that's 144 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: kind of a big shock as well. And just you know, 145 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: the food was very different. I had no friends, I 146 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: was young. I was kind of paying the buck kids, 147 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: so I had a lot to kind of learn quickly 148 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: on my own. 149 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: What do you mean paying the buck kid? 150 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: I was a bad kid. Let's just say that I 151 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: was like mischievous, getting into trouble, so fights here and there, 152 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: but it was more like protecting people. But yeah, I 153 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: got made fun of a lot from my accent, which 154 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: obviously ended up in me not letting them do that. 155 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: So got kicked out of the public school quite quickly, 156 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: which made my mom very angry since we came. I 157 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: came midyear and that's actually how I started fencing. 158 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: So tell me a little bit more about that. How 159 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: did you really get into the swing of thanks? 160 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: I would say I'm about eleven this point. I've been 161 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: in public school PS. Eighty seven for like I don't 162 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: even know, three months at the time, and my mother 163 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: met this lady who was admissions director at the school 164 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: called the Dwight School, and she's like, okay, I can 165 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: give Miles an interview, but you know, he just got 166 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: kicked out of the public school, so it might be 167 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: hard to get into private school. But you know, quite 168 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: charming and ended up getting in and as like a 169 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: not a p but as like a stipulation from three 170 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: to four point thirty every day, I had to pick 171 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: up either tennis, fencing, or badminton, and I was like, 172 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, what are these sports? So I was like, 173 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: you know what swords are? Fun? I like swords. So 174 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: I picked up fencing and immediately just fell in love 175 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: with how it made me feel. You know, I felt 176 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: like a superhero and that kind of escaped into my 177 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: own world when I put that mask on. 178 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 2: It's so interesting because as opposed to something like as 179 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: you would call it football or conventional football, or I 180 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: mean basketball, so many other sports, I feel like it's 181 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 2: really easy to pick up a ball and play, but 182 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: with fencing, there's just it feels as though there are 183 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: a lot of logistics. So was it easy for you 184 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: to grab onto it rather quickly at a young age 185 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: or did it feel complicated? 186 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, You know, there are a 187 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: lot of like wires and machines, but at that age 188 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: everything's dry, which means it's non electric. So it's kind 189 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: of just I've got a jacket, I've got a mosque, 190 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: and you go to foil and let's just duele it out. 191 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 1: So if you're really thinking about it, like as a 192 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: little kid, I mean I wanted to be like a 193 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: sword fighter or a superhero. I'd pick up a stick, 194 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, in the park and just like kind of 195 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: act like I was, I don't know, swinging your sword around. 196 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: So I kind of took my childhood dream and literally 197 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: made it my my profession. 198 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. Okay, So you started fencing, 199 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: and through doing that, as some younger kids do when 200 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 2: they're starting to play sports, did you start to make 201 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: friends that way? 202 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: Actually, when I got introduced to fencing, it was like 203 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: six of us in the gym class, three of the 204 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: lads in there through the boys, and we kind of 205 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: started to go fencing once a week outside of school together. 206 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: So we would like, you know, take the train together, 207 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: whatever that might be, and one of the upperclassmen would 208 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: actually take us on the subway down to fencing. So 209 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: I honestly didn't really connect with the kids my age, 210 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: but for some reason the older people, I would always 211 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: kind of ask them questions or just like always want 212 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: to be around them. So I did find friends in fencing, 213 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: just not my age. 214 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: When in your journey, then with this sport, do you 215 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 2: start to really understand just how good you are at it? 216 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: This lady named Ellen Grayson who changed my life. She 217 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: was the first person to be like, Miles, You've got talent, 218 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: like talent that we've never seen before. I think if 219 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: you gave us a real shot, you could be something special. 220 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: How did you meet her? 221 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: So she was there's this program at the Dwight School 222 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: called Quest, kind of like an after school program for 223 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: like kids that either, you know, kind of getting in 224 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: trouble and need a little bit extra time, whatever that 225 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: might be. And she was a person who saw me 226 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: fencing and saw that I was slowly getting into less trouble, 227 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: and she was like, Okay, Myles, I'm going to kind 228 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: of like be or mentor. It was even her job, 229 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: and she just kind of took me under her wing 230 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: and introduced me to my coach that I used to 231 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: have for fifteen years. So she honestly is like an 232 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: incredible person. So she kind of took me from just 233 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: that little gym in school to a fencing club in 234 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: New York. 235 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: How was it when you walked in there? 236 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Let me take myself back to that moment. When I 237 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: first walked in there, I think I was so surprised 238 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: at the size of the gym, Like it was quite 239 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: big and I was like, Wow, there's a full fencing community, 240 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: because I never even knew what fencing was until I 241 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: started doing it, obviously like Zoro, but like so walking 242 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: into there was really like a new world for me. 243 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: I kind of just gazed for a little bit and 244 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: then got to work. 245 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm assuming that kind of work that you 246 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: started to do in that gym was a lot different 247 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: than what you had been doing before. 248 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So what we were doing before was mainly 249 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: just like target practice, like just you know, silly little drills. 250 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: And then when I went to the fencing club, I 251 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: was actually sparring. I was like hooking up electric for 252 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: the first time. And then I saw some Olympians that 253 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: were training there as well. I was like twelve at 254 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: this point, and I was like, oh, this is cool, 255 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: okay Olympics. Like I didn't know if fencing was in 256 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: the Olympics. So that kind of opened my eyes to like, 257 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: all right, there is more than just doing this for fun. 258 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: I kind of and maybe this is me making an assumption, 259 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: but I kind of feel as though, did anyone have 260 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: an opinion about you getting into fencing from school? Like 261 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: did you get kind of poked around how unintended? Did 262 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: you get poked out a lot about it. 263 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: All the time? And I think for me, I was like, oh, 264 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: they call me all these names. You play with little sticks, 265 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, like all these names. And for me, it 266 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: was just like I just didn't care, and I loved 267 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: what fencing made me feel. And I got made fun 268 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: of all the time, but obviously I would not let 269 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: I would say something back every time, but like I 270 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: got made fun all the time, get into fights at 271 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: school because like they'd make fun of finting. They say, oh, 272 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: girls do this, like you know, And I was like, 273 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: all right, mate, I'm literally playing with a sword. What 274 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: are you doing putting a ball into a hoop? You know? 275 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, Like from that age, 276 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: I think I was like fourteen, I was like, I'm 277 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: going to shut everybody up. And that's when I just 278 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: turned into just like a different human being at that age. 279 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: In reference to when you say you then tried electric, 280 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: talk to me about how that kind of works in 281 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: the scheme of things here. 282 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, for instance, fencing has wires, which essentially is 283 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: what the scoring is placed. So there's a wire that 284 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: goes from the ground into your foil which is the 285 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: weapon that I choose, And somebody's green and somebody's red, 286 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: and that's like how the Olympics are scored and World championships. 287 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: But if you're young, like i'd say, when you're like 288 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: there's some kids that are eight to say twelve, it's 289 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: more dry, which means there's no wires. It's just like 290 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: kind of practice per sae and then sorry, the real 291 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: fun is when you get to like hook up and 292 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: hear the machines and see the lights go up, and 293 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: that's kind of when you really such to fall in 294 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: love with it. It's a lot different than what most 295 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: people think. It's not like the parent trap. 296 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: Oh wow, great reference and also such a throwback. Talk 297 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: to me about how this year has really impacted your 298 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: training and kind of maybe your plans with the Olympics 299 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: being pushed out a little bit. 300 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: This is a the craziest year of my life, and 301 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: I think probably most people on this planet, but for me, 302 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: in most athletes at Olympians, you kind of train every 303 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: four years for just that one moment of hopefully you 304 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: get to hold that gold metal around your neck and 305 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: hit the anthem. But everything stopped when you know this 306 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: pandemic happened, and I kind of had to reset and 307 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: figure out who I am as a person before I 308 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: can really get back to fencing, because I never had 309 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: any time to think about who I am or my 310 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: feelings or my motions. I was always just fencing and 311 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: going to shoots, going to sponsors, going to fashion and stuff. 312 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: I kind of was flying through life without really thinking 313 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: about who I am and what I need. And I've 314 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: never been like an emotional person per se, like not 315 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: like emotional, like in tune with my emotions like, and 316 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: I think for the first time in my life, now 317 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: I have. It's been beautiful, but also it's been a 318 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: little bit just different for me because I've never had 319 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: to do this before. 320 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of scary, isn't it. 321 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I love being scared. It's weird, But 322 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: I love going to something that you'd be unknown and 323 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: like coming out of that situation with some type of 324 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: clarity or just some type of direction or something. And 325 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: that's what this time has allowed me to do, is 326 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: focus on stuff outside of fencing, And I'm extremely grateful 327 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: for it in the weirdest way because now I have 328 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: more direction in my life and not just fencing and winning, 329 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: but there's a lot more to life just that. 330 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: What would you say in the scheme of things this 331 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: year has been one of the biggest lessons that you've learned. 332 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: There's two. One is every disappointment is a blessing. And 333 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: I think not necessarily disappointment, but I think learning about 334 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: what I want as miles instead of what like I 335 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: have to do as Miles do that makes sense. My purpose, 336 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: I felt like was inspiring children, Like the messages that 337 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: I was getting from kids who were like, this is 338 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: really hard for me, I don't know what to do. 339 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: Fencing is my life. And then I realized that, like, 340 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: my purpose is inspiring these kids that I think there's 341 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: no hope in fencing, or like the life is over 342 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: or they get bellie a little time for loving a sport, 343 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: And that to me was the kind of silver lining, 344 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: is that my purpose is not just meaning more, it's 345 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: about these these children and how I'm influential to them. 346 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: I didn't really realize how inventure I was until I 347 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: sat down and kind of zoned in on everything. I 348 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: don't done any sense. 349 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: But no, it totally it makes sense because I think 350 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: that you and I have a similar mission, and that 351 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: when you were younger and you started fencing, you were 352 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 2: made to feel a little bit alienated for doing the 353 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: thing that you loved. And so now as an adult, 354 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 2: now that you've found some you know, success in your 355 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 2: sport and you've made a name for yourself, it's that 356 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: you want to have the opportunity to make those kids 357 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: who you can relate to feel a little bit less alone. Exactly, 358 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: take me through kind of the evolution of what happens 359 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: after you start training at the fencing club in New York. 360 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So at this point, I'm probably say twelve years old. 361 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: I just got introduced to this lady. Her name is 362 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: Sylvia gior Hungarian, and she was my first real coach 363 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: that ever kind of saw my potential outside of Ellen Grayson. 364 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: And she said, you know what, Myles, I think you 365 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: can be world champion one day, Olympic champion one day. 366 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow. And then that kind of 367 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: turned on a light bulb in my head, like, Okay, Myles, 368 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: let's let's let's chock the world. Let's there's something that's 369 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: never done before. Because I never looked up to anybody 370 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: in fencing or wanted to be like any fencer. I 371 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: just knew that there was levels of a sport which 372 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: nobody hit yet, and that's what I was on the 373 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: mission to do. And she spent a lot of time 374 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: with me, and I would be at the club too 375 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: late and she'd take me home and that was kind 376 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: of like my escape was I was twelve years old 377 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: leaving the fencing club like seven pm. Who does that? 378 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: Mum was like, what's going on? But I never complained. 379 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved that made me feel and 380 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: I knew that, like this was my calling. 381 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: Where is that in the scheme of things? Like what 382 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: year are we in? 383 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: Now? Fourteen? So fifteen years ago, this. 384 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: Is still pre twenty twelve Olympics, So take me into 385 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: what happens between this point and when you actually gear 386 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: up to go to your first and all that good stuff. 387 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: So I would say from fourteen to eighteen, I'm trying 388 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: to make the Junior Olympic team, which is like the 389 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: under seventeen or under twenty team, which you get to 390 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: represent your country in. It's like huge honor, right as 391 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: like a kid. So I qualified for my first Junior 392 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: Olympics at fourteen, just really young, and it was in Cleveland, Ohio, 393 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: and I forget which medal I got it, maybe I 394 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: made the final eight. Whatever. Everybody's like seventeen, I'm like 395 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: a little kid at this point. I'm like tall and skinny, abnormal, 396 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: So I'm just weird. Good. That was weird to say 397 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: wording good. It's not a colkey, but I was just weird. 398 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: And then the next year, I'm fifteen, come back and 399 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: I said I'm winning this thing, and I won. And 400 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: then that summer I got every single letter of intent 401 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: to every college full ride offencing at sixteen. Wow. So 402 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, do I even have to 403 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: go to school? But like I knew college wasn't for me, 404 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: but I wanted to get a college experience, like going 405 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: from London and seeing all these massive universities like fifty 406 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: thousand people. I was like, I want to get the 407 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: most ridiculous experience of college I could ever get. So 408 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: that's when I went. I got a full scholarship to 409 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: Penn State University. 410 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: I was wondering what college you were about to throw 411 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: out after you said I want to get the most 412 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: ridiculous college experience of my life. 413 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was for me. It was notre dame was 414 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State. Stanford and Penn State were the ones that 415 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: like good friends to schools and gave me a full 416 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: scholarship and eighteen, I was like all right, went to 417 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: Penn State for a year. I was like, you know, 418 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm taking this year off. I'm going to try and 419 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: qualify for the Olympics. So everyone thought it was crazy. 420 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: Moved to New York City with one of my coaches, 421 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: stayed with him, so I wanted to. I went to 422 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: pennsy at nineteen and then I had my twentieth birthday 423 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: that year and I qualified for my first Olympics, which 424 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: happened to be in where else, London, my hometown. 425 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: Very appropriate. 426 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the crazy experience, was qualifying for an Olympics. 427 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: That was so crazy. 428 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: When you say that, no one believed that you could 429 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: do it, Who are you talking about. 430 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: Any fencer, any coach, family members, Because it seems like 431 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: such a crazy dream or reach until you really get there, right. 432 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: And I think self belief is when I tell kids 433 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: I speak to and I'm like, oh, you need is 434 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: self belief. Once you have that, you can do anything 435 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: in this world. And I think that's what I've taken 436 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: on no matter what people say, no, yes, and then 437 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 1: you know when it's too late, I've already paused to you. 438 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: So at that age, I kind of knew that I 439 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: didn't need anybody's approval or anybody's anything. I was gonna 440 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: do it on my own. 441 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: Taking a break from today's episode to give some love 442 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: to my sponsors. First up, Thrive market You have heard 443 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: me chat about the online marketplace on the show before, 444 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: and it has really dramatically improved my weekly shopping routine. 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There's nobody on the airplane, but Olympians landed. 487 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: It's incredible. Get to the village and I sit in 488 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: the room and I'm like, wow, right, we made it. 489 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: But I knew that then. I was My mindset wasn't 490 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: in the right place, and I was just happy to 491 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: be there instead of there for a reason. I was young, 492 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: but does make an excuse. And who my whole family 493 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: was there. My grandmother was there who's never even seen me. Fans, 494 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: my uncles, my aunt, my mates. It was incredible, and 495 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: then they're getting forth, which is basically the worst as 496 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: you can ever get. And I noticed that I changed 497 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: my mentality. I changed the way I was training just 498 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: because it's the Olympics. But the Olympics is just like 499 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: any other competition, just more pressure. So the next year 500 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: I was twenty thirteen, and that's the World Championships and 501 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: no American has ever got a medal in five hundred years, 502 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: and I was just like, you know what, I'm going 503 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: to win this thing. And I was the first American 504 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: to ever become world champion in the sport of fencing. 505 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: And I knew that if I had to say mentality, 506 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: I would win the Olympics. And it was enjoying the 507 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: process being you being crazy, not listening to anybody, and 508 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: just working harder than anybody else. And if I didn't 509 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: get fourth in the Olympics, I wouldn't be where I 510 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: am to this day. 511 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: I love that mentality. When it came to that World Championships, 512 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: when talked to me about the motion that came with 513 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: taking that first place spot. 514 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: That's the most emotional I've ever been. I'm pretty sure 515 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: I cried on the podium, which I've never done before. 516 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: But like I remember, I was seventeenth in the world 517 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: and top sixteen in the world get a free day 518 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: to the next day. So I'm the only one in 519 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: my teammates because twenty twelve I didn't do one in 520 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: the book, so the ranking I dropped. I was on 521 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: the world to seventeen, and I never forgets. I was 522 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: sitting in my room with one of my mates and 523 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: I was like, dude, you want have a beer. He's like, no, 524 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: you're fencing. I was like, I want a beer at 525 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: a Heineken in the lobby and I felt just different. 526 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: And I was like, nobody's built like me. And I 527 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: was like and I just pay for the check, went upstairs, 528 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: went to bed, woke up, and I knew something magical 529 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: was gonna happen that day. I just felt it. 530 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: What an ad I know. 531 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: I wish I could I know, And I was like, 532 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: you know what, like mile, I was like you And 533 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: then that's why I just and that's why I started 534 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: to like realize that I'm not just a fencer. And 535 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: then that's when I was like, boom, I'm not finishing school. 536 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to be the first fencer to ever make 537 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: a million dollars. I told my mom, i' mom this 538 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: and she's like, okay, son, you know, not like money 539 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: was the issue. I was one of the craziest like 540 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: goal you know, like who could think that's possible. And 541 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: Nike was the first sponsors to ever signed me, first 542 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: friends that they've ever signed, so and then I signed 543 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: in Rebel and I sent the Samsung and then I 544 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like wow, and then things 545 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: kind of took off for me. 546 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: I feel like that's kind of a little bit of 547 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: that power of manifestation that we talk about so often. 548 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: It's putting something into the universe, and until you do, 549 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: sometimes you just think that it's too scary to dream 550 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: that big. But saying it and actually getting it out 551 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: there can make such a huge difference. 552 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: I have a huge for the power of manifestation because 553 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: it's just shows you know, if you really believe in 554 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: the vision, you'll get there no matter what. And that's 555 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: something that I that's something that I've always been strict on, 556 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: is like writing things down and manufacting them and not 557 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: letting anything stop you from getting to where you want 558 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: to go. Like nobody should be able to stop you. Nobody, 559 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: not even your parents, nor even your mates. Nobody should 560 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: be able to stop you if you have self belief. 561 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: You mentioned all of these big sponsorship opportunities. Something that 562 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: we haven't directly covered yet is the fact that you 563 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: are six foot four, right, yeah, and you don't necessarily 564 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: look like other people that you are competing up against. 565 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: So how has that impacted both you as a fencer, 566 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: And then I guess with these brand partnerships, like how 567 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: has that kind of come into the fold. 568 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: That's a great question. Nobody in my sport looks like me. 569 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: I think that's what makes me different. I think that's 570 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: also why I've been able to get all these new 571 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: sponsors or get these new brands, because fencing has got 572 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: such a rich history. It's one of older sports. It's 573 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: considered elitist and predominantly white, which it is, and I 574 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: come along. I'm a mixed race, tattooed guy whose styles crazy. 575 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm jumping in the areathing into my legs, and I've 576 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: been able to kind of get a new audience into 577 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: the sport who might have not knew fencing was cool 578 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: or athletic or just different. And then seeing companies like 579 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: Nike and Rebel and Samsung and so forth believe in 580 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: me and see the potential mix. It so much more 581 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: of a beautiful journey when we have somebody who believes 582 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: in you as well. From the jump, it's like somebody's like, hey, 583 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: let's sign Miles. Now. I'm like, Okay, that's easy because 584 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: I've proven my way. But like they kind of believed 585 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: in me when I was nobody, and I'll never forget that. 586 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: And I think that's what I always take with me 587 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: every day is you know, I think I love to 588 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: be able to shock myself. I love to be like, WHOA, 589 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: you did that? I love that, And that's I don't 590 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: care about proving anybody else wrong. I care about knowing 591 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: that what I said was possible, no matter how crazy 592 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: it was, I made it possible. 593 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: I have too walked into both nikes New York and 594 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: Portland headquarters, as well as Red Bulls headquarters in California. 595 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: Talk to me about what that experience was like for you. 596 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: So still with Nike since they were the first one. 597 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: I didn't actually get to visit campus until like a 598 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: year after I signed. I met with my Nike rapper 599 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: Laurie Roth, who's to this day like my second mom. 600 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: She always chucked up on me. Make make sure I'm 601 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: in check. And she's like, you know what, Miles like, 602 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: Nike is a very you know, corporate brand, and we 603 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: know your edgy. We love that about you. Be you 604 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 1: and we'll support you. I was like, whoa really? And 605 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: then you know, next year, I was shooting my first 606 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: campaign with Serena Williams and Roger Federer and I'm like, 607 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: what is going on? And then I started meeting them 608 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: and the Nike was like, whoa, this this is Offenser. 609 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: And then I started booking every campaign coming one of 610 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: the most requests Nike athletes to shoot. I was like, wow, 611 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: this is nuts. But I knew what I had to offer, 612 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: and I knew that I was just myself and good 613 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: person and and get everything to love that everything would 614 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: walk out, and it did. 615 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: We checked off Nike's headquarters, talk to me about talk 616 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 2: to me about signing with Red Bull, and then checking 617 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: out where what they're all about. 618 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: My mate name was Jeremi Jose If he actually fenced 619 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: with me. This is probably a year and a half later. 620 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm twenty one at this time twenty two and he goes, hey, Brow. 621 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: He was like, I'm good in New York City. He's like, oh, 622 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: do you drink Red Bull? I was like, yeah, I 623 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: love it, but why, oh did you drink when you compete? 624 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I love it Ball and he's 625 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: like okay, cool, and then he's like I have a 626 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: good day and I was like what. And then he 627 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: called me back like the next day eight with his 628 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: friend named Justin Abrams, who signed me to Red Bull. 629 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: He was like, listen, man, you know, we've been looking 630 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: at you. We think you're really cool. But Red Bull's 631 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: whole thing is you have to you have to be 632 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: everything's organic. If they drink the product, you can't just 633 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, half auted. So it took me six months 634 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: to sign with Red Bull because it's such a long 635 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: onboarding And let me tell you, that's family forever. Like 636 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: those people are incredible and they honestly helped change my life. 637 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: I can't thank them enough. And then I was able 638 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: to go to a future Austria and visit the headquarters 639 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: and I meet the whole team and they want to 640 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: build projects with me, and it's been an incredible ride 641 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: and I'm so thankful to have them along the journey 642 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: with me. 643 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 2: You rack up these sponsorship opportunities, and now you're back 644 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 2: in another for your training cycle, right exactly. 645 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't know if the Olympics going to 646 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: happen or whatever, but I'm just staying in shape, like 647 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: I'm training for Olympics now. But for me, like it wasn't 648 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: necessarily about the Olympics, It's just about being relevant all 649 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: the time. I just don't want to just be someone's 650 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: relevant every four years, you know. I wanted to be 651 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: somebody who changed lives and grew a sport and put 652 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: on the map. And I'm still trying to take frinding 653 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: from niche to mainstream on my own. So it's not easy, 654 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: but it's what I signed up for, and I think 655 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: that's my purpose in this world. 656 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: We haven't even talked about the bronze from twenty sixteen, 657 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 2: so talk to me about that experience for you. 658 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: That experience was very interesting actually so in the individual uh, 659 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember actually, but when we got to Brazil Rio, 660 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: which I love that country, it was a way to 661 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: experience because I knew what to expect. My second one, 662 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: I was kind of like a household dame in the 663 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: sports world at this point. I had a lot more 664 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: no confidence, but like I knew I was there to win, 665 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: not not to like party or whatever that was. And 666 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: when getting bronze medal, which is awesome, but I fenced 667 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: the best I ever had in my life, and we 668 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: got bronze as a team, which I fenced the best 669 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: of my life. But we didn't get a gold medal. 670 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: But it taught me a lot and it showed that 671 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: like I have a new level to tap into that 672 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: like I didn't even know as possible. Like for instance, 673 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: team matches go to forty five points and I scored 674 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: ninety percent of them by myself. It's a team obviously, 675 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: but you're going individually one on one. I'm not gonna 676 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: lie to you. I was not very happy with a 677 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: bronze medal. This is also like a bit of sweet 678 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: because if I won the Olympics, I won everything best 679 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: for Olympics, World Championships. But I knew that wasn't the plan. 680 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: So I knew that I wasn't supposed to be then 681 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: and I unlocked and knew out of my brain. I 682 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: switched coaches for the person time in my life, and 683 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait to continue this journey. So it was 684 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: a hard experience for me. But it was beautiful, obviously, 685 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: like getting a medal was Wilson. But on the podium, 686 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking about twenty twenty already. 687 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 2: Talk to me about the change that happens once you 688 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 2: do start to get some notoriety. I mean, you went 689 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 2: from a kid growing up who was used to being 690 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: made fun of for being a fencer at such a 691 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,479 Speaker 2: young age to sitting next to Madonna at the met ball. 692 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: So talk to me about that. 693 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: Like that, to me is something you can't even processed, 694 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: Like how even post that. I'm like, this woman is 695 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: like the most famous woman's planet and it's next to me, 696 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: and it's interested in what I'm saying. What the hell 697 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: is going on? But I and also at the Met THO, 698 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: I met my best friend to this day, Lewis Hamilton, who, 699 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: if you know him, is the F one driver. 700 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this F one driver, 701 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: but because a. 702 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: Lot of people in America don't know him yet, that's 703 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: what I meant. 704 00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 2: I know him. 705 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: I know him, and I I never forget. I was 706 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: sitting there and he was like, hey, man, your defence. 707 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, brother, the driver, and he was 708 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: like yeah. I was like I know one person here, 709 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: he's all right, man, then let's hang out. And then 710 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: that was it. And it was Madonna on one side, 711 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: me in the middle, and then Rihanna on the other side. 712 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. And I was just 713 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: honestly just being me and didn't change my end no 714 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: matter what setting I'm in. And I think that's why 715 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: I've been able to kind of always just be mean 716 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: no matter what setting I'm in. 717 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: You've also dabbled in a little bit of fashion stuff. 718 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 2: How has that been? 719 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: Fashion has been incredible for me. They've also opened so 720 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: many doors for me in that world. Fashion has given 721 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: me another audience. And I think fencing and fashion, sports 722 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: and fashion go hand in hand. It's like the most 723 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: beautiful relationship together. And I've able to meet great people 724 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: and dabble in that fashion world and really opened my 725 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: eyes to what I want to do beyond dispensing and 726 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: I love fashion. I'm getting that world right now and 727 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: it's shown me that you can do whatever you want 728 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: to do. And when I do like modeling stuff, I 729 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: just wanted to kind of all the people in the 730 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 1: fashion wall to know that I'm not just a model, 731 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: that I'm an athlete, and that comes first, and then 732 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,240 Speaker 1: that's why I changed my Instagram to Fencer, so people 733 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: knew that I'm a fencer first and then I'm a 734 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: fashion model second. 735 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 2: Was getting that hard. 736 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 1: Yes, but we got people high places. 737 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 2: Every time I see someone with like the most coveted 738 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,439 Speaker 2: Instagram name or that, it just pops up that way 739 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 2: in my head. I'm like, who did you know? 740 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: But that was funny. So I was shooting not to flex, 741 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: but I was shooting Vogue like that day, and I 742 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 1: was shooting with Scissa the singer, and she's like, hey, 743 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: what's your Instagram? When I posted it, like I'll tag you. 744 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: I was the same here and my Instagram changed from 745 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: Miles Watson to Fencer as we shot it, and I 746 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: was like, oh no, But then ended up being perfect 747 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: because then Vogue was like Scissor and Fencer. I was like, 748 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, this is cool. That was like 749 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: how I introduce the world to Fencer. 750 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so crazy, though, Like do you even hear 751 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 2: the words that are coming out of your mouth? It's like, 752 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: when did you get to a point where like saying 753 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 2: things like this became normal? 754 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: Well, Pinter was like, you know, people always say a 755 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: young age, You're going to be a star, right, Like 756 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: you know, people will say it's like a little kid, 757 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, yeah, whatever, And then sometimes you 758 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: sit back and you're like whoa, Like you're on the 759 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: same level as like these people who you respect so 760 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: much that like that is what makes it amazing for 761 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: me and the people that I love, Like wearing my 762 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: Nike hats, I'm like, this is wild, Like that's why 763 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: I created the create a legacy, not a moment, my trademark, 764 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 1: and like I gave Lebron I mean Russell Wilson hats 765 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: and they posted them and war them. I was like, 766 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: what is going on? Oh, we would love your saying 767 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: if you're getting respect from these people, then you're doing 768 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: the right thing. 769 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 2: You're doing the right thing. You said that twenty twenty 770 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 2: has been absolutely something crazy, So talk to me about 771 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 2: why that is. Aside from obviously the fact that you've 772 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 2: had to shift to your team. You mentioned getting a 773 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 2: new coach eight months ago, but what other highlights can 774 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 2: you show me? 775 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: It was working on my video game, my foundation, We're 776 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: kind of renecting with my family more, my friend, but 777 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: also just and I think just I realizing I have 778 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: so much to do still, but like it was a 779 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: lot to process at first. All right, Mom, I was like, 780 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: don't worry about what you can't control. 781 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 2: When you when you think about your career thus far, 782 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 2: what would you say. Some of the best advice that 783 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 2: you have been given has been. 784 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: No matter how crazy things get, no matter how life 785 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: might change, is never forget the boy from London. 786 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 2: When someone goes to your Instagram page, they see this 787 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 2: handle the fencer. They see this guy who has an opinion, 788 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 2: who feels excited about his sport. He wants to quote 789 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 2: unquote create a legacy, not a moment. When you look 790 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 2: in the mirror, what is it that you see staring 791 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 2: back at you. 792 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: That's a great bloody question. See myself, honestly, just see 793 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: a guy who's walkin's also been figuring out life like 794 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 1: everybody else, but has direction and this is excited. 795 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that twenty twenty, in the scope of things, 796 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 2: without you know, the craziness that has been this year, 797 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 2: we wouldn't be as excited maybe for what's to come. 798 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 1: Exactly. I'm just like, oh, we can, We'll get through this, 799 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: we will be hopefully. Twenty twenty one is the best 800 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: year for all of us. 801 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 2: Amen. Okay, we're winding down here right now. You have 802 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 2: an opportunity to offer the Miles who's going through some 803 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 2: of those hurdle moments early on, dealing with the judgment 804 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 2: and the sometimes bullying and embracing this sport that not 805 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 2: many people only understand. You have an opportunity to offer 806 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 2: that guy one piece of advice looking back on that 807 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 2: hurdle moment right now, what do you tell him? 808 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: I'll tell him every storm runs out of rain, so 809 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:24,800 Speaker 1: don't forget your umbrella. 810 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 2: That's great, man, Thank you so much for your time today. 811 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 2: It's been awesome to get to know your story and 812 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 2: learn a little bit more about you. 813 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: My posture that's actually my new tattoo in my hand. 814 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 2: How many tattoos do you have? 815 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: One hundred hours? I can even tell you how many loves? 816 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: How many I have, but I've got too many. 817 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 2: Too many. How do the hurdlers keep up with you? Miles? 818 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 2: Give me the details on your socials and all that stuff. 819 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: Oh, hurdlers. So my Instagram is Fenser, so's my Twitter now, 820 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, look out for what's coming next. And grateful 821 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: to talk to you all. And I can't wait for 822 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: you to be a part of this journey with me. 823 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 2: Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.