1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: John Moran and d Rose both got heavy Memphis times. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Who is the most explosive in your opinion? Ain't know. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: It's crazy because de Ros was explosive. But I think 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: John I gotta give the job to show hands down, 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: got to get at the job. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 3: Really. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: To me, Joe and Shaye are similar. They kind of 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: weird dope game. You can't I can't figure out. I 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: can't figure Shay out. 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Got that old school game, old school. I think he 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: got the played that old school game. 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm, I'm sitting there trying to compare him 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: to somebody. I don't know what. John is just like 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: that too. Joe special too. 15 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 4: I have an idea for s g A and if 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: it's really bad, say left go shut the up. He 17 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 4: kind of plays like those old like hot Sauce videos 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 4: on an one mixtape, which is just like stop go stop, 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 4: like he's always trying to stop and go and get 20 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: you off rhythm and then he just goes by. 21 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Smooth so crazy. 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: As he played angles, he got a good he know 23 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: how to do played the angles. That's why I tell 24 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: the kids angles is a big party game. You gotta 25 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: look at your angles too. You know what I mean, so. 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: Zebo, where did you live when you were when you 27 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: played for the Knicks? 28 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: Man Westchester? 29 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: So far bron, I hate it. 30 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. 31 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: I love playing in the Guard and playing for the Knicks, 32 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: but just living there was the worst. 33 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: Man. I hate this so expensive confession. When I was 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: after I left the Lakers, the Knicks was a contender, 35 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: but I turned around because I like driving, and you 36 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: can't drive in New York. Okay. 37 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: I drove in to Manhattan to. 38 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: No, No, you can't drive. I got two big trucks. 39 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: You can't drive the way you drive. 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: I got two big trucks that will get tore off 41 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: in New York. You can't run. You can't park them nowhere. 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: There's no space for you on the street. But like 43 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: z Bo, I'm just fascinated because, like you know, after 44 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: your career about Memphis, I'm thinking about man one of 45 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: the smaller markets. But you were in New York and LA. 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 4: So you went big city, big city Memphis, and you 47 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 4: had Portland too. I don't know, because I never played, 48 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 4: I have to imagine playing in a big city in 49 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 4: a small city is completely different. 50 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: Definitely, it's definitely different. 51 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: Like you said, just having being been able to God 52 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: give me blessings to being able to experience them great cities, 53 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: because all of them was great cities. And but yeah, 54 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: and just like being at Memphis, it's just a different feeling. Like, 55 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: you know, I'm from a small town in Indiana, so 56 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: just you know, a blue collar player, blue collar person, 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: don't know nothing but work. And so like Memphis, it 58 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: was it was they same principle. So I feel it. It 59 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: was like a puzzle, man, you know what I'm saying. 60 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: So you know, everybody understood it, you know, because. 61 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to imagine Shack and like Charlotte. 62 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: Not back in the day, but Charlotte cracking now, not 63 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: that I know. I just heard. Oh yeah, sure, yeah, 64 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: Charlotte cracking a that I know. I just hey, hey, 65 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: see this right here. It's a language only certain people understand. 66 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: Why this Yeah, I just yeah, I just send him 67 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: my whole paragraph. 68 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: So I actually heard a few of the details. I 69 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: don't think I heard that. I heard like two of 70 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: the four sentences. 71 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: I was in Charlotte a couple of weeks ago. I 72 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: was like, damn, trying to change. I saw your daughter 73 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: play one time with my daughter and I know she was. 74 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: When you look at a kid and go who is that? 75 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: They're doing something? So I'm looking, I'm like, damn, who 76 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: is that? My daughter said that Sea bowl? Daughter, I'm 77 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: like my z bow Like, bro, your daughter is a beast. 78 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: Sad you did? You have to stay on her? Well? 79 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: You know, you know they don't really want to listen 80 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: to me. Man, You know I stay on her, but 81 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: you know, you know what I mean. But she she 82 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: listened to the coaches. But you know, as a father, 83 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay on her. Man, And she works hard, 84 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: you know, and that's that's. 85 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: Why how does she play so mean? Damn? She mean means. 86 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: I gotta tell her to keep playing like that because 87 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: you know, this summer gonna be big summer for you know, 88 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: she's a freshman in Louisville, you know, and sophomore gonna 89 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: be this season gonna be a big one for you. 90 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: So the summer is important. And shout out to you too, man, 91 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: your great father. You know our daughters play together, your sweetheart, 92 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: and she a hooper too, So shout out to me. 93 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: Are. I don't know what you did with your daughter, 94 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: but when my daughter was little, because she's a beautiful girl. 95 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: I know you can't play she's get up and then 96 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: I used to like calm her down, but all right, 97 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: go ahead, dribble like she's the best one like that. 98 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: Your reefs is good. She cari good. But she when 99 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: I go watch her player, I damn don't want to cry. 100 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I have to keep my composing. She's 101 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: she's really freaking good man. And the only thing I 102 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: don't like about it, she's like these new age kids. 103 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: They play at their own base, Like if you ever turnover, 104 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: won't sprint back on defense and just be like like 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: like she plays at her own paper, your sweetheart. To interviews, 106 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: general question, you're a well known for generous and helping 107 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: your teammate ten thousand Tomorry Carrolf was here for us once. 108 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: Is there a guy who you helped out of a 109 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: jam when they were new to the NBA and they 110 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: needed it. Somebody like that new and on know what's 111 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: going on? 112 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 2: Well, you know it was a one time my partner 113 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: was going through something. Shout out to James Johnson and heana, 114 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: I love bro. We was you know, my little bro 115 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: and he was going through something during the season and 116 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: I was there. 117 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: He slept. 118 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: He slept in my guest room for like weeks, you 119 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: know what I mean, and came and go as he pleased, 120 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: went out the back way he had his own So, 121 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: you know, just just one situation, you know what I mean? 122 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: You know, And I always I still talk to players 123 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: as playing too, because like you said, we ain't know haters. 124 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: They know that we got love and we want to 125 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: see them succeed. 126 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: So from the heart, so I still talk to a 127 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: lot of young guys I do play with and play with. 128 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: This episode of The Big Podcast with Shock is brought 129 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: to you by The General. 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