Speaker 1: Okay, literally podcast starts now, Okay, press play, Press play
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Speaker 1: and welcome to Stradio Lab, the first and only podcast
Speaker 1: to be recorded in quarantine. I am sitting here now
Speaker 1: with George Severis, my co worker. George, how have you been? Wow?
Speaker 1: Thanks for circling back. Well, of course I'm always trying
Speaker 1: to loop you in. Thank you for looping me in.
Speaker 1: This email finds me a well god, I'm I'm good.
Speaker 1: When you started saying hey listeners, I thought we're gonna
Speaker 1: say hi to me, but no such luck. Mh. So
Speaker 1: this is our first episode that we're recording in quarantine,
Speaker 1: and in fact, I've a piece of feedback I've gotten
Speaker 1: about the podcast from people that have liked it so
Speaker 1: far is that it's really refreshing. That it's not recorded
Speaker 1: during quarantine, so we're about Unfortunately, the quarantine did get
Speaker 1: us eventually as well. Yeah, it's weird. You You would
Speaker 1: think you would think, based on how many episodes we
Speaker 1: have released over the past two months, that truly, you know,
Speaker 1: the acting as though nothing is happening, um, that it
Speaker 1: just had not effected us. But not the case. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. I am still piste off that somebody
Speaker 1: leaked all of our episodes. You know, it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be our unreleased podcast project, and somebody just put it
Speaker 1: out there, kind of ruining the mystique we had we
Speaker 1: did say. I mean, the one thing we agreed on
Speaker 1: when we started recording this podcast is that it would
Speaker 1: never be released. We said, this is for us, this
Speaker 1: is absolutely for us. But you know, things change geopolitically,
Speaker 1: that's true. Um, the entertainment industry entertaining up. You know,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Yeah, as someone who currently is
Speaker 1: employed by Viacom, how has it affected you? Um, you
Speaker 1: know it's been so hard for everyone at Viacom CBS,
Speaker 1: and I think I can speak for them. Um, you
Speaker 1: know what, it's a family. I've heard it's such a
Speaker 1: family everyone that works there. It's a brotherhood. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: all just a bunch of guys being guys over there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They don't employ any women, right. Yeah, And it's controversial,
Speaker 1: but you just gotta throw it up. You know what,
Speaker 1: though it works. Is the thing, if it ain't broke,
Speaker 1: don't If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Um, that's
Speaker 1: what Bernard Viacom said that in his first ever keynote
Speaker 1: address addressing the shareholders in seventy BC and nine seven
Speaker 1: C Bay Bay Um, How is being a tenured professor
Speaker 1: at Harvard these days? It's going really well. It's going
Speaker 1: really well. I mean, I have to say, as as
Speaker 1: some listeners might know, my non comedy job is working
Speaker 1: at a research center and studying the media industry. And
Speaker 1: one of the projects I'm currently working on is literally,
Speaker 1: because Jesus Kath, this isn't insta, this isn't club coming
Speaker 1: on Instagram live. Do you think there's some sort of
Speaker 1: Instagram Why you're not the star, You're a guest. Just
Speaker 1: wait till you're interview. So I look so bad. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to change shirts during this. You literally arrived late,
Speaker 1: like Lady Gaga in at the met Gala last year,
Speaker 1: with changing into various black and outfits. Just disgust. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you're blowing online. It's insane. Wait, I just
Speaker 1: want to close one loop because I um so like
Speaker 1: so so. Part of my daily job has been literally
Speaker 1: to keep track of a spreadsheet with layoffs in media companies.
Speaker 1: So it's literally just reading articles about how people are
Speaker 1: getting laid off. Wow, that sounds up, which is like
Speaker 1: the most depressing thing to do on a day to
Speaker 1: day basis. Um. And then what else I've I'm taking
Speaker 1: a zoom writing workshop. I'm listening, how how is it going?
Speaker 1: It's going, It's going, I would say, relatively well. Um,
Speaker 1: I had like you know how people say like the
Speaker 1: positive things first known the negative things when you're going
Speaker 1: around doing a workshop. Last night, I had this experience
Speaker 1: where like everyone's being so positive and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I knew it. I'm the best one.
Speaker 1: And then it like and then it got to the
Speaker 1: point where people were like about to say like the
Speaker 1: negative stuff, and people were fully like what if you
Speaker 1: got rid of like the entire B plot or maybe
Speaker 1: even the A plot. Yeah. I feel similarly at viacom
Speaker 1: CBS sometimes I'm like, of all the creative I'm definitely
Speaker 1: the best one, right, and I need them to tell
Speaker 1: me that. I want like a ceremony at biocom CBS.
Speaker 1: But anytime someone isn't um organizing a ceremony for me, yeah,
Speaker 1: I consider that to be unfair. And you know what
Speaker 1: else is unfair when people treat art like it's not
Speaker 1: a competition, Like there's a winner and there's a loser.
Speaker 1: It's a competition. Mhm. Are we losing our touch? What's happening? Um? No,
Speaker 1: wait did we? It's okay, So here's something I'm thinking about.
Speaker 1: It's like quarantine. So this podcast right sort of prequere,
Speaker 1: sort of we got to sort of bask in our
Speaker 1: own toxicity. We were mean to each other, we were
Speaker 1: mean to the guests, The guests were mean back. Everyone
Speaker 1: was having a blast. Now everyone's so grateful to be
Speaker 1: alive and healthy, and it's like, okay, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be like rude to my friends. Can you please like
Speaker 1: drop the sincerity? Did you know? So it's like hard
Speaker 1: you mean this current climate will be an active rude bitch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well tell me if this, tell me if you relate
Speaker 1: to this. I have been going back and forth between
Speaker 1: being so overly kind of earnestly, um you know, emotional,
Speaker 1: and then being completely like hating everything. Yeah I'm not
Speaker 1: like mad? Does that check out? Like? What do you hate?
Speaker 1: I mean things that would normally bother me, and then
Speaker 1: I would move on because I have a lot of time.
Speaker 1: I then think about them for forty eight days. M hm.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Do you want to add all
Speaker 1: the firm my experience in anyway? Maybe yes? And me
Speaker 1: so we can kind of yes of a conversation. Okay,
Speaker 1: you are heard, thank you. Um No, but I mean
Speaker 1: I get like surprise emotion. I feel like I get
Speaker 1: that a lot. Oh my god, Wait, what what were
Speaker 1: you saying? It's like Carl rage Jepson song surprise emotion.
Speaker 1: I'm guessed. I'm guessing I'm not here. Okay, give me, yeah,
Speaker 1: you go, you should. We're just bringing our guests. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I do. I just wait. The seven o'clock clapp
Speaker 1: has happening. They're clapping for us, clapping for Katherine. Guys,
Speaker 1: we're recording our podcast. Um, let's literally bringing our guest.
Speaker 1: All of Park Slope is clapping for renowned comedian Test
Speaker 1: Berkshire's influencer. Please and again, we still don't have like
Speaker 1: a phrase we use when we like bringing a guest.
Speaker 1: We just sort of wing it every time. So, um,
Speaker 1: open your hose for Katherine. Yes, of god, it was
Speaker 1: obviously fucking impossible not to talk during that segment. Um, Katherine,
Speaker 1: I swear to god, we truly we have never been
Speaker 1: that bad. I mean it's crazy. I was laughing, laughing, laughing,
Speaker 1: and then I was I. I was looking at my
Speaker 1: phone because you guys, my one of my best friends
Speaker 1: from high school literally just gave birth. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Definitely a big shout out to her. He shout about
Speaker 1: to Lily, shout out to the new baby named Lily.
Speaker 1: That's what the baby's name. So surreal. Well I did what. No,
Speaker 1: I just like I have to say, I'm I'm so
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see you both. I'm just getting
Speaker 1: like sentimental. I just like, haven't seen I haven't seen
Speaker 1: your faces on zoom yet even during this. And and
Speaker 1: also I wanted to say that, um, I feel like too.
Speaker 1: Two of my college friends text me being like you
Speaker 1: have their new podcast is so fucking funny. I'm obsessed
Speaker 1: with it. So really, I mean, it sounds like you
Speaker 1: guys are both doing like good in core. That's sound good.
Speaker 1: That's insane that that's how it sounded. How bad are
Speaker 1: you doing? I said this one, don't say it again.
Speaker 1: I just woke up from a nap, so I feel
Speaker 1: I mean, do wake up from a nap at six pm?
Speaker 1: Is should be illegal. It's disgusting. And then to immediately
Speaker 1: go make a cocktail. I mean also us Actually I
Speaker 1: respond to that. In my mind, waking up from a
Speaker 1: nap at six pm is the most normal possible time
Speaker 1: you can wake up from a nap. Is that crazy? Crazy?
Speaker 1: Is I'll allow up in you weren't taking a CS.
Speaker 1: It's like after the work day. Let's say you're in Europe,
Speaker 1: so the work day ends at two thirty pm, and
Speaker 1: then you're in Europe, you go home, you have lunch,
Speaker 1: which in Europe is at four pm, and then you
Speaker 1: take a nap, and then you wake up at six
Speaker 1: pm and then it's cocktail hour. Okay, I guess I'm
Speaker 1: European as fun. I guess when in my mind, if
Speaker 1: I was like in the city right now, in our
Speaker 1: old life, we can up at six perfection, you have
Speaker 1: a whole night ahead of you. But if someone who
Speaker 1: has nothing planned to wake up at six, then you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's have to it's gonna be a while before I
Speaker 1: go back to sleep. What are we going to do tonight? Etcetera. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: this is one again boring, This is boring, waring boy
Speaker 1: wearing boring. Well, but it seems like you're already on
Speaker 1: the I mean, so what does it so? Just for everyone,
Speaker 1: for anyone who might not have read your Grab Street Diet,
Speaker 1: you are, um you or me roast me. For the
Speaker 1: Americans who missed your Grub Street Diet, they're they're hard
Speaker 1: to find. What they are out there? They are It's true.
Speaker 1: Um So you're in You're not in the city. I'm
Speaker 1: Princess Vibes. My boyfriend's parents have a cabin in the Berkshire's.
Speaker 1: We spent two weeks in my Stay with Me studio
Speaker 1: apartment and then fled here and then and this is
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna love love, love to hate this.
Speaker 1: This amazing woman on Instagram was like, I run this
Speaker 1: gorgeous lodge and the catskills and there's no one here.
Speaker 1: Would you want to come broadcast your instat live show
Speaker 1: from here? So the past two days we went like
Speaker 1: an hour away to this gorgeous lodge to like be
Speaker 1: in an empty hotel and it was heaven on earth.
Speaker 1: And so now I'm and I'm just like riding that high.
Speaker 1: But now I'm back to norm But is that where
Speaker 1: you did your writing retreat? No, that's that's different. What
Speaker 1: is this? Um? So, what let's get to what I
Speaker 1: really want to know. What's going on with You'll are cool?
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you're talking about the pot
Speaker 1: about your personal life. You came on, you came on,
Speaker 1: talk about when things were earlier, early days the Island. No,
Speaker 1: So it's the It's like the only thing I've been doing.
Speaker 1: I've watched, like I would say, at least um two
Speaker 1: episodes of it and so I'm kind of using the
Speaker 1: linko in a way that's fun, not annoying and cool.
Speaker 1: So it's days mate, Okay, so you and no one's
Speaker 1: ever done it before. It's inventiff, So it was early days.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Yeah, while we're still dating. In fact,
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, we're boyfriends. We literally have a
Speaker 1: conversation about whether we're boyfriends during quarantine. That's the ship.
Speaker 1: That's It was one of those things where like, I'm
Speaker 1: so glad that I do really like him because I
Speaker 1: could imagine a olden which I mean we started dating
Speaker 1: in December. I can imagine a world in which I
Speaker 1: started dating someone in December, you know too. Three months
Speaker 1: in is when you realize whether you actually like someone
Speaker 1: or not, and like to start down and quart imagine
Speaker 1: to start some like Quarantino with someone and then be like, wait,
Speaker 1: I actually am not feeling this. Yeah, And also like
Speaker 1: I feel like it would be imagine being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't like this person, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: this is my only opportunity for any human contact, So
Speaker 1: it's a lot of calculations to do right, like anyway,
Speaker 1: but luckily that's not the case. And also luckily we
Speaker 1: live at twenty five minute walk so it's a built
Speaker 1: in exercise and be it like frames my week because
Speaker 1: I know, like it's perfect, you know, like I'll see
Speaker 1: him for a couple of days and then come back.
Speaker 1: Your life's perfect, George, Your life is like a movie.
Speaker 1: My life is like Normal People. That okay the show.
Speaker 1: We watched a few episodes of that, and then we
Speaker 1: like we got horny, and then we tried to have sex,
Speaker 1: and then we got in our heads thinking we were
Speaker 1: trying to have sex like them, this long discussion about
Speaker 1: like our sex, like our our sexual connection, and that
Speaker 1: just kind of turned into three days of like really
Speaker 1: intense discussions about our relationship. And we're on the other
Speaker 1: side of it. But we would call it the normal
Speaker 1: People discussion. I mean, I think Where's my guy? Is
Speaker 1: that accurately left? Um? We had that experience but not
Speaker 1: sexy at all. When we watched Sarah Jessica Parker's Vehicle
Speaker 1: Divorce and that's a good show. Well, you know, we
Speaker 1: we put a ban on it in this household because
Speaker 1: we watched a few FS and just immediately started fighting
Speaker 1: about nothing. We just were mad at each other, like
Speaker 1: it just brought it out, Sam, how many is it six? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you working on in that beautiful household? Oh? It's
Speaker 1: um fine, it's mostly good. It's just like every once
Speaker 1: in a while, I feel like when I'm in like
Speaker 1: a bad mood, there's nowhere to go with it. So
Speaker 1: then I'm just like grumpy and then he's like a
Speaker 1: mad at me, and I'm like no, but I'm about
Speaker 1: to be if you like. And it just absolutely it's unreasonable.
Speaker 1: And it's like just as like one day a week,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like this like toxic little stew and
Speaker 1: the moods are on the sane. It's so difficult. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been interesting, Go ahead, there's no like this has
Speaker 1: been really interesting. I just feel like there's no outlet
Speaker 1: for like feeling negative energy, like in a normal day.
Speaker 1: You can be like I'm annoyed at people on the subway,
Speaker 1: or like I'm annoyed at job, and now it's like
Speaker 1: I'm just annoyed and I can't put it anywhere. Um
Speaker 1: so it's crazy. What were gonna say? It's interesting? I
Speaker 1: would just because we me and Brian I have never
Speaker 1: lived together before, so this is our first foray into
Speaker 1: uh that, and it's been going surprisingly well. But I
Speaker 1: feel like every week or so we have I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say fight, it's like just really long discussions about like yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's how I feel. It's really like, it's really sweet.
Speaker 1: I'm in love. Were pitching that like it was going
Speaker 1: to be like our big fight, and You're like, it's
Speaker 1: just really sweet. No, I've forgotten how to be like
Speaker 1: funny or interesting. I'm just like I'm in love and
Speaker 1: I'm in the mountains. I do feel like, how long
Speaker 1: has it been since I've had a funny thought. It's
Speaker 1: been a while. I still rest on reserves from pre corps. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I did have a couple of weeks where I felt like, wait,
Speaker 1: does anyone here an echo for you a little? Really?
Speaker 1: What do you think it is? No, it's gone now,
Speaker 1: I think some times there's just like a lag Okay, cool, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Literally literally set this up for us. I'm your producer.
Speaker 1: Is in your ziploc bag? Well, it's such an amazing
Speaker 1: question in George, I hurt my knee, for no, the
Speaker 1: one time I went on a long run, hurt my knee.
Speaker 1: Now can barely walk, which I'm obsessed with during this
Speaker 1: amazing time. Its bag is now whatever we're all calling
Speaker 1: water and I've been kind of like gently putting it
Speaker 1: on my knee, but I'm realizing maybe I should put
Speaker 1: it back in the freezer. Well, that has been our
Speaker 1: brand new segment. What's happened. Something you should know is
Speaker 1: that we make up a lot of segments while we're
Speaker 1: recording this show. And something else is we don't tell
Speaker 1: the guests anything about the podcast until we're recording. And
Speaker 1: we talked about recording the podcast while we recorded. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I completely can feel connected. It's a behind the scenes
Speaker 1: feature at on the thing that is currently being recorded.
Speaker 1: We do a It's like if you're watching Titanic and
Speaker 1: then Kate Winslet turned to the camera like fleabag and
Speaker 1: was like, can you believe this to the camera and
Speaker 1: was like, am I being good at acting her? It's
Speaker 1: like after after the director yell's cut, She's like, that
Speaker 1: was so random. When my boob was out say we
Speaker 1: do we do a quirky thing on our podcast where
Speaker 1: we refused if we don't know about the guests and
Speaker 1: the other one wanted them on the other one will
Speaker 1: refuse to look up any information about has it ever gotten?
Speaker 1: Has it been very obvious for any particular guest? We
Speaker 1: just we had a girl who was on the Bravo
Speaker 1: shows Summer House and Pat loves that show, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, I've never seen your show, and she
Speaker 1: was like, okay, bitch. She was really, it was really
Speaker 1: she was cool and funny and so I stand and
Speaker 1: that's my that's my tail. Um, what else is going
Speaker 1: to fuck on with my girl? And I was thinking,
Speaker 1: what I was looking forward to this all day because
Speaker 1: you're both two of the funniest people. I remember, I said,
Speaker 1: whenever I try to be earnest, I sound like a bit,
Speaker 1: But you guys, I've been like this will this will
Speaker 1: cheer me and like set me right, let's really quick.
Speaker 1: Wait yeah, um when Catherine said we were really funny.
Speaker 1: Was it just me or was she being a totally
Speaker 1: big I was about to say it sounded really disingenuous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like why would she come on? And I would say,
Speaker 1: it's like, like, okay, congrats on having that girl from
Speaker 1: Summer House on your podcast, Like didn't like did I
Speaker 1: ask about that? Like I don't remember, just like to
Speaker 1: name drop like that. I mean it's like I love
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, like she goes on Instagram once
Speaker 1: suddenly her head is like there's this island agreement that
Speaker 1: we all kind of like pretend we're on a level
Speaker 1: playing field, but like to just come in and immediately
Speaker 1: be like I had Imagen Poots on my podcast Summer House. Um, anyway, okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: let's let's we have let well so that so that
Speaker 1: vine and here is Hey Catherine, sorry we had a
Speaker 1: technical difficult you know, worry about it. You guys are
Speaker 1: really like you're doing amazing ship right now. Your ship
Speaker 1: is being amazing. Every week on my Instagram Live there's
Speaker 1: fewer and fewer people and I'm I feel like that's
Speaker 1: literally the most I feel like the most pathetic one
Speaker 1: of the world posting about it. But it is all
Speaker 1: I fucking have. I'm like I had so much had
Speaker 1: so much fun when I did it. No, doing it
Speaker 1: is so fun for me, But it's just like there's
Speaker 1: something about I don't know, how do you guys feel
Speaker 1: navigating Like posting anything during this stay with me time
Speaker 1: feels so psycho. But I need it to live because
Speaker 1: I am so I'm as endless void of need an approval.
Speaker 1: I mean, my literal new job is making content for
Speaker 1: Viacom CBS, and it is just like putting what is
Speaker 1: your job? I couldn't tellf that was real? Are you
Speaker 1: guys like had had a standing bit? This one is
Speaker 1: actually real? I'm like doing like I'm like making videos
Speaker 1: for Comedy Central Digital like uh, and it's like it's fun,
Speaker 1: but it's like really crazy to just be like, okay,
Speaker 1: well come up with quarantine content every single week and
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to be like really funny. And then
Speaker 1: it's like today, truly I put out a video and
Speaker 1: it didn't do well and I spiraled. I've been like upset,
Speaker 1: just like checking my phone and being like, well I
Speaker 1: only last night this video does isn't getting enough likes?
Speaker 1: And Brian's like it's okay. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: wrote a song that was like, Um, if anything else
Speaker 1: bad happens to me, I'm gonna kill myself and you
Speaker 1: can I don't think you can say that shutting down
Speaker 1: my quarantine muse. I've been trying to write a song called, um,
Speaker 1: what if I commit suppuku being like suicide. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling myself, but it's like different to remember when
Speaker 1: um when like, so I'll say it. Trump said that, um,
Speaker 1: you know you know what I called the orange chee
Speaker 1: though whoa ripping those not watching? I'm ripping my clothes
Speaker 1: off masturbating at how funny that that? Remember when he
Speaker 1: said something that was like maybe you know bleach? Would
Speaker 1: you know, like what if we put bleach inside our bodies?
Speaker 1: Maybe that would help or whatever. Um. The day that
Speaker 1: that happened, I wrote an entire shouts and murmurs that
Speaker 1: I did not submit that was like, um, your guide
Speaker 1: to bleach based cocktails, And it was like all like
Speaker 1: parodies on like Negronia, but it was like dead you know,
Speaker 1: dead crony or whatever. And I wrote the entire thing
Speaker 1: and then I read it through and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is so dark I can't. This is not publishable
Speaker 1: in the New Yorker. And then I just like but yeah,
Speaker 1: I um. Then your called me and they're like, no,
Speaker 1: George speriously, it's really good extra. They pay me extra
Speaker 1: for it. Bag of water. She's got a bag of
Speaker 1: water in her hands. For the all the one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand listeners at home, Catherine Cohen is holding a ziploc
Speaker 1: bag of water. No, that's so crazy to come to
Speaker 1: a podcast holding a big bag of water. You know,
Speaker 1: she holds this bag of water and you expect maybe
Speaker 1: a goldfish to be in there. Maybe she wanted that
Speaker 1: a fair perhaps, but no, it's just the bag. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I think we should do? Sam? Do you?
Speaker 1: Are you literally gonna suggest me to our first segment?
Speaker 1: That is so upsetting to me? Yeah? I knew. I
Speaker 1: knew that would get you. I said it just to
Speaker 1: rile you up. Oh and now I'm pete off. Three
Speaker 1: starts crying, um um, So that we do is this?
Speaker 1: You're gonna make fun of us for this one big time?
Speaker 1: We actually do a segment like straight shooters hate that?
Speaker 1: Are you guys? Okay? Oh? Can we tell people that
Speaker 1: I am straight? But you know that I have. There is,
Speaker 1: as I like to say, that's a shred of By
Speaker 1: and me because I find it really erotic when a
Speaker 1: woman pushes her boobs, like her soapy boobs against a
Speaker 1: shower door. That's like the one like, that's why I'm by.
Speaker 1: I've never been. I've never been. I've never trying been
Speaker 1: with a woman. There's a bird trying to fly outside.
Speaker 1: It's like trying to fly. It was so low. It
Speaker 1: was too low to be a bird going in from
Speaker 1: the car. Okay. So the segment is called straight Shooters,
Speaker 1: and it is a segment that we used to gauge
Speaker 1: our guests familiarity with the rich tapestry of straight culture.
Speaker 1: And it is a series of rapid fire questions with
Speaker 1: two options. So we'll just rapid fire at you like
Speaker 1: you know, blue or pink, and then you have to
Speaker 1: pick one. And for this episode, since it's our first
Speaker 1: quarantine episode, it's Straight Shooters Quarantine edition, which definitely is
Speaker 1: what people have praised us. Uh, the opposite of that
Speaker 1: where they say, well, your non quarantine content and then
Speaker 1: we're saying, okay, well don't get used to it, because
Speaker 1: here's some quarantine style content. Well, those people are living
Speaker 1: in a fantasy. Yeah, because Quartine comes for us all
Speaker 1: looks like her sister dad. Um. Okay, so are you ready?
Speaker 1: I'm psyched? Okay, that's a really straight thing to say,
Speaker 1: don't you think. Yeah, No, that's dude, I'm stuck in
Speaker 1: psyched and what's work? Wait? Actually that can be our
Speaker 1: first one. Are Harry ready, Katherine psyched? Or stoked? Stoked? Wait?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it what I want? If? Is it
Speaker 1: what I like? Better? Oh my god, oh my god,
Speaker 1: to write my headphones off because you're already overthinking it.
Speaker 1: Everyone overthinking it. Okay, I'm just like everyone else. Stars
Speaker 1: are just like us. And now that you've overthought it,
Speaker 1: we also need to warn you don't underthink it because
Speaker 1: as soon as you underthink it, we than overthinking is underthinking.
Speaker 1: So just that middle ground between overthinking underthink that's mid things.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people will be two in the middle, which when
Speaker 1: they're that it's really painful for them. That actually can
Speaker 1: be the worst of all. I'm scared. Okay, does that
Speaker 1: make sense? Does that make sense? That's actually so helpful.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, Sam going okay? Zoom works drinks or
Speaker 1: a virtual we Birthday cards sour dough starter or kombucha starter,
Speaker 1: medical mask or shirt wrapped around face, sure vibes, taking
Speaker 1: up knitting, or contemplating grad school, gra being mad at
Speaker 1: Runners or being mad at the government. Sally Rooney's Normal
Speaker 1: People or Sally Field as Mary Todd Lincoln Normy. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be hot when this is over. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: hog when this is over. Hog and er big hog energy.
Speaker 1: Okay watching season three of the Real Housewives of New
Speaker 1: York or reading one page of Severance by Lingma season
Speaker 1: three or real Well, I'm done, Joe Biden or literally
Speaker 1: anyone else, literally any want okay, going off? Bring the
Speaker 1: going off a lot like a huge Biden nut. I've
Speaker 1: been supporting him since day one. Oh my god, that
Speaker 1: would be such a huge that would be incredible. It's
Speaker 1: hard out there. That was really Hey, guys, that was
Speaker 1: really cool. You did so well. I'm calculating your score now.
Speaker 1: I believe you got um an eight. Oh. I used
Speaker 1: to think that eight um seven was the sexiest number,
Speaker 1: but eight was also cool. Well, it's Kirby like theos
Speaker 1: in the shower. Yeah, because eight like eight, it's popular now.
Speaker 1: When I was growing up, it was all about seven,
Speaker 1: all about seven supermodel it was it was Kate Moss
Speaker 1: and now it's all about its Kardashians. It's eight. So
Speaker 1: eight is now the sexiest number. I don't know. Six
Speaker 1: has that fat bottom, you know, I know that you
Speaker 1: like six hour Glass, Queen George, you probably like fucking
Speaker 1: four such a nerdy for do not like four? You know,
Speaker 1: it's even more psycho liking to to be very too.
Speaker 1: It's like a majestic number, Like it's like kind of
Speaker 1: it's like so close to the beginning, and yet it's
Speaker 1: so different. That's why it's so pathetic. It's like trying
Speaker 1: to one. Do you know what's stupid about two? You know,
Speaker 1: how too? As a prime number? Actually, oh that is
Speaker 1: that is like two and three? Well three, I get, okay, three,
Speaker 1: it's an odd number. But to be to be even
Speaker 1: and to look and to be even in and be prime,
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, um and as popular as two
Speaker 1: in terms of like dividing something and half half is
Speaker 1: one of the main things we have, right exactly. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that crazy, you know, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe it's like kind of nonconforming for an even number,
Speaker 1: like don't get mad at it for just like trying
Speaker 1: to switch things up. But this is a heteroonormative podcast, right, right,
Speaker 1: So two is gay, which is bad? Every everyone's your
Speaker 1: favorite number? On three? We all say one at the
Speaker 1: same time. Wait, do you want to know something devastating
Speaker 1: and related to the topic of our to the theme
Speaker 1: of our podcast, I used when I was in like
Speaker 1: elementary slash middle school, I would say my favorite number
Speaker 1: was two because it was Derek Jeter's number. How long
Speaker 1: were you guys straight for? I came out to people
Speaker 1: around me when I was like seventeen eighteen, and then
Speaker 1: I came out to my parents a little later. I
Speaker 1: came out to friends when I was nineteen, and then
Speaker 1: I came out to my parents when I was twenty five.
Speaker 1: And then you came out to me like halfway through
Speaker 1: our date, and I was like, all right, he's good,
Speaker 1: that's right. And I famously went for like drinks once
Speaker 1: and we both were like, there's an energy here. It
Speaker 1: was actually pretty erotic, and it's yeah, especially because like
Speaker 1: your sam is my type is close to my at least,
Speaker 1: like jacent is type adjacent for me at least if
Speaker 1: nothing else, And so I was feeling. Wait, when was
Speaker 1: this two summers ago? Okay, so it wasn't like you
Speaker 1: were out, No, I was. I was hanging out with
Speaker 1: my gay friend Sam, who was then day Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: new show for Quimby, Dating for the Night, Dating for
Speaker 1: the Night, Katherine, I just want to ask you to
Speaker 1: please not make fun of Quimby. Why employee? He would
Speaker 1: guess what? I would pay millions to be involved in
Speaker 1: a quickly project and I did pay millions to be
Speaker 1: involved in it. I would pay billions to be involved
Speaker 1: in anything that wasn't just me dancing on my living
Speaker 1: room in like slutty outfits, being like, hey, please, God
Speaker 1: on Earth, pay attention to me. Actually it is Chrissy
Speaker 1: Teagan's Quimby show. Please God, pay attention to me. Please please,
Speaker 1: got to pay attention to me. I looked Pacos and nachos,
Speaker 1: Tacos and nachos Colin, Please God, that's actually the perfect name.
Speaker 1: Did you read that interview with Alison Roman today where
Speaker 1: she dragged Chrissy Teagan on the floor? Hearing processing that information? Okay, so,
Speaker 1: so there was an interview with Alison Roman um where
Speaker 1: she dragged both Chrissy Teagan and who's the lady tidying up?
Speaker 1: Marie condo? What did she say? First of all, where
Speaker 1: do you guys stand on Alison Roman? And which recipes
Speaker 1: have you made? Okay? I have made the the first
Speaker 1: to the second st This potato did she did? That
Speaker 1: was like with um, sardines. It was like potatoes and sardines.
Speaker 1: I made a Brussels sprout thing she did once, um,
Speaker 1: and a couple of other things. But I haven't made
Speaker 1: the shallotte pasta. How about you? No, I was one,
Speaker 1: I actually because I was wondering about the child. I
Speaker 1: only made the stew, which I found to be really
Speaker 1: bland unfortunately, the first to yellow. Yeah, the chicken one, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it was. That was like probably my the
Speaker 1: least favorite thing that I've actually really liked. Her second stew,
Speaker 1: which is the white bean that one looks good. Feel
Speaker 1: embarrassed to say this, Like I am scared of anchovies,
Speaker 1: and I know that's a pedestrian thought, but I just
Speaker 1: like I can't connect with them, so um bleep. The
Speaker 1: guy am dating said something recently that I found to
Speaker 1: be insightful, which is that sardines are like a food,
Speaker 1: but anchovies are um. But anchovies are seasoning, so like
Speaker 1: anchovies are just like a way to put salt on
Speaker 1: It's literally like flavored salt, like if you if you
Speaker 1: try to use it. I was scarred. I tried to
Speaker 1: make a caesar for like a dinner party for someone
Speaker 1: I hated, and I try, I was I got terrified
Speaker 1: of the anchovie in the kitchen and I didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do with myself. And this was twenty teens.
Speaker 1: You can imagine our heart. That must have member me.
Speaker 1: I mean that's before before the stew even. Yeah, to
Speaker 1: deal with a pre in a Preeste culture, to cook
Speaker 1: at all in a pre Stu culture, it wasn't done
Speaker 1: back then. I was listening back to a previous Epp
Speaker 1: and George, you mentioned Ellison Roman before and I had
Speaker 1: no idea who she was. And guess what I did,
Speaker 1: pretended like I knew you really expertly pretended though, because
Speaker 1: I now remember this episode, it was actually a pretty
Speaker 1: significant portion. So Katherine, to catch you up, we were
Speaker 1: talking about who are ideal listener is in that episode
Speaker 1: and we created an entire mythology and it is um,
Speaker 1: a gender queer Bard recent Bard graduate named mix Emma,
Speaker 1: and they are listening while making the Alison Romans stewed
Speaker 1: and Sam just pretended that he knew what I was
Speaker 1: talking about. The said, yeah, yeah, totally, that's so right,
Speaker 1: and I get it, but to do it with your
Speaker 1: co host say yeah, and you mean we need honest
Speaker 1: look at truly, but it's just like when we're really
Speaker 1: gonna hold up the pod, Like our podcast is sacred,
Speaker 1: So it's like, are we really gonna like hold up
Speaker 1: the podcast to be like, well, who's Alison Roman? Like
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like no, let's let's let's keep
Speaker 1: the dialogue on track. Well, you know, I recently fully
Speaker 1: went off on people in our group chat. Sam, you
Speaker 1: remember this for not knowing who Alison Roman was your
Speaker 1: group chat? Like, in fact, I said that, I said,
Speaker 1: I think my exact words were, it is shocking to
Speaker 1: me that people in this thread would not know who
Speaker 1: Alison Roman is. I agree the things that I heard
Speaker 1: about this chat. I'm like, I would to be a
Speaker 1: fly on the wall. I would give anything for I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure. I'm pretty sure Matt's exact response was fuck you,
Speaker 1: George speaking of gay good that was a really good segue.
Speaker 1: We awesome culture. Jee's holding up birth control is holding
Speaker 1: up what appears to be a birth control. What is that?
Speaker 1: I'm convinced this is making my body look different and
Speaker 1: putting me in a bad move. But I am so
Speaker 1: addicted to getting filled up with com that I have
Speaker 1: to keep digging it. Wait, are you guys on fenced?
Speaker 1: Because I just started one. I want you to be
Speaker 1: a part of my community. Wait, I want to be
Speaker 1: a part of your community. I don't have one. Sam
Speaker 1: does have them, but he doesn't allow anyone to follow.
Speaker 1: It's more of a prot I don't look at me.
Speaker 1: I don't trust you, guys. I want to talk about this. Okay,
Speaker 1: no one's going to care. But I did three fourths anal? WHOA,
Speaker 1: what's big? Is Brian's? Yeah? That's how biggest talk is
Speaker 1: Bring Brian out and how him show us this. I
Speaker 1: don't worry he is. He must have his headphones because
Speaker 1: I think he's right next to me. Ben. He did leave,
Speaker 1: he did we um we tried three fourth anal so
Speaker 1: that it went in three fourths of the way. Very smart, Sam,
Speaker 1: very good. I wasn't sure did How did you? What
Speaker 1: inspired it? What did inspire? Okay? Well? What inspired it?
Speaker 1: Was that I've been and tell me if this is
Speaker 1: too straight for your taste, I'm talking as like, no,
Speaker 1: it's okay because for me, like to be a straight
Speaker 1: girl talking about anal, it's like okay, it's I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's we get it. Sure. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's true though, because here's the thing you don't have.
Speaker 1: What's it called? But it's my it's my job to
Speaker 1: be like I might try it. Like that's a straight
Speaker 1: girl in my role in culture is to be like,
Speaker 1: I want to try it. I think it's fun because
Speaker 1: it's such a shared experience. It can be like wow, okay,
Speaker 1: so like does it like, how did you feel about it?
Speaker 1: Like it's amazing that we can all have that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's crazy. I mean, honestly, the craziest part of
Speaker 1: this all. It's like I haven't even talked about this
Speaker 1: on my own podcast yet. And that's what you guys
Speaker 1: do to me. You make me feel just exclusive of
Speaker 1: the way stradio laugh exclusive before when I said before,
Speaker 1: when I said you don't have a and then I
Speaker 1: stopped because I forgot the word. The word was prostate.
Speaker 1: But keep going. You got your room got so dark?
Speaker 1: George hap. It happened so suddenly because George, wait, hold on,
Speaker 1: I'm going to turn the light on. You look like
Speaker 1: someone who would hurt. So tell us, tell us about it. Well,
Speaker 1: was it fun or did it? Like? No, it was
Speaker 1: so fun because I think, first of all, it's like
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying like a finger. I think for me
Speaker 1: mostly it was like just like the newness and like
Speaker 1: the intensity is such after being with this person like
Speaker 1: all the time every day, and like you know, we
Speaker 1: know our rhythms sexually and said interroducing you. It was
Speaker 1: just really but wow. So I'm excited to see where
Speaker 1: this chapter takes me. The Normal People I haven't I've
Speaker 1: only watched four episodes. I only could watch three. Did
Speaker 1: you watch the whole thing? Sam? I haven't seen a nap.
Speaker 1: Did you read the book? I did read the book.
Speaker 1: But you know what's so funny about books and me
Speaker 1: is that I literally never can remember a single thing
Speaker 1: about them after I know, I thought, well, I I
Speaker 1: felt that way while watching it. I was like I
Speaker 1: kept as things were happening, I would remember back to
Speaker 1: when I read them. But if you were to ask
Speaker 1: me what is the plot of Normal People, I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell you, not even close, especially because I think the book,
Speaker 1: Like the whole time I was reading it, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this, but I don't know what the hypes about.
Speaker 1: I'd liked her other book better. I would say I
Speaker 1: thought the other book. I thought the other book was
Speaker 1: overall better, but I thought Normal People's best moments were better.
Speaker 1: Like I thought Normal People was more inconsistent. So like
Speaker 1: there were part there were like paragraphs where I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is really this is like a more you know,
Speaker 1: you can tells. She's more kind of like it's like
Speaker 1: a more maturely written prose or whatever. But like, but overall,
Speaker 1: I think the first book is like a better book
Speaker 1: from beginning to this is absolutely um like showing up
Speaker 1: to class without having done the reading vibes. I have
Speaker 1: a question totally. I have a question not reading in
Speaker 1: general now if we're going to go there, because George,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe you guys feel this way. I I
Speaker 1: have a disease where because as a as a merrit
Speaker 1: well you were never mind as school children in general, yes,
Speaker 1: Like I was just taught to read so so so quickly,
Speaker 1: so I could get through stuff so even now when
Speaker 1: I read for pleasure, I find myself like literally against
Speaker 1: the clock, racing through ship and like not even I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is this for this book? I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: prove to anyone that I like, yeah, I'm such a
Speaker 1: slow readers. I take my time. And I also really
Speaker 1: like rereading things, Like if I read a paragraph that
Speaker 1: I like a lot, I will then like read it again.
Speaker 1: I'll find myself reading a page and like kind of
Speaker 1: zoning out and being like wait now I have to
Speaker 1: go back and read that whole page, and like I
Speaker 1: just will I take my time? Yeah, no, I take
Speaker 1: my time. I mean I do wish I didn't because
Speaker 1: I see other people, um, for instance, George, I'll say
Speaker 1: Stradio Lab listener Dan Dadario, friend of the Friend of
Speaker 1: the Pod last year on December, released his list of
Speaker 1: books he had read that year, and it was I
Speaker 1: believe books that Psycho And I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: didn't even know if it was an option, because I
Speaker 1: do feel like I always have a book that I'm reading.
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm not you know, but I but
Speaker 1: I I really do just take my time. I find
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just go through phases like the
Speaker 1: first month of cord I didn't read anything, and now
Speaker 1: I'm kind of back on track. What are you reading?
Speaker 1: I just finished, um, the Merry Gatskill story Short Stories
Speaker 1: Bad Behavior? Have you read this? Oh no? But I
Speaker 1: mean obviously I really like her. She had a reason. Yeah,
Speaker 1: her recent thing was really good too, about like yeah,
Speaker 1: she feels like a tiny is like a tiny book
Speaker 1: about kind of a me too situation from exactly. Yeah, guys,
Speaker 1: this podcast getting too smart sight like literally like you
Speaker 1: would love that. This story is a really good bad behavior. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about come, let's talk about com again. Talk
Speaker 1: Are you guys fucking or what's the vibe? I'm very
Speaker 1: rarely have animals anyway, so not like fucking in the
Speaker 1: classic sense, more than you up? You literally do you know?
Speaker 1: I did try to use a dildo to j O
Speaker 1: this week because I was like, I gotta start like
Speaker 1: getting back into anal. It's like reading for me, what
Speaker 1: was the Christmas Tan show? Taco Taco? Look at me
Speaker 1: at tacos and notchos? Colin God, will you please look
Speaker 1: at me? I think, well, you know, we we have
Speaker 1: the record, we can look back. But m getting back
Speaker 1: getting back into anal won't you please look at me? Yeah? Um? Wait,
Speaker 1: should we like talk about our topic? Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess it feels like such a hard pivot, but let's
Speaker 1: do it. I'm excited about the topic. Okay, great at
Speaker 1: minute fifty seven, are you ready, Catherine to introduce the topic. So,
Speaker 1: for me, a huge part of my is this. I
Speaker 1: don't know how this works, but for me don't have
Speaker 1: a structure for it. So go ahead. A huge part
Speaker 1: of straight culture is monogramming things. So you so you
Speaker 1: are from Texas? First of all, I think, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: from Texas. I also know, like Sam as someone who
Speaker 1: went to uv A, you probably know a lot about
Speaker 1: monogramming as well. Yes, And before I loved in Southern
Speaker 1: Virginia and there was it was a huge part of
Speaker 1: the culture graduation me growing up like it was normal,
Speaker 1: like everyone everything you had guys and girls, you had
Speaker 1: your initials on it or your name l being backpack.
Speaker 1: It was really everyone had an l being backpack with
Speaker 1: their initials. Everyone had John Hart tore the Trees suitcases,
Speaker 1: luggage with their names on it. And this was normal.
Speaker 1: It was natural. And when I graduated high school, I
Speaker 1: received I would say at least like sixteen to twenty
Speaker 1: items um with my name on them. I even had
Speaker 1: a little I got a couzy my name on it.
Speaker 1: I got a tumbler that said Katherine had a Princeton
Speaker 1: tiger on it. And so when I got to college
Speaker 1: and I had all this ship, everyone was like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck? Why wait? But on the other hand, you
Speaker 1: did go to Princeton, so I would actually assume most
Speaker 1: people came in with fully monogrammed yeah. But for me,
Speaker 1: And it's so funny because to the general world, Princeton
Speaker 1: is like a conservative, preppy place, but when you come
Speaker 1: from like Houston, Texas, like private school, it's like that
Speaker 1: it doesn't even Princeton felt like a liberal oasis. I
Speaker 1: was like, these are full blown, like sexually liberated feminist
Speaker 1: hippies now, because because they don't have their initials everywhere,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, how can I identify you?
Speaker 1: Are you off the grid? So and then even like
Speaker 1: guys like having like the initial on their um like
Speaker 1: Patagonia or like I went to a school with uniforms
Speaker 1: and we had you know, e H s every single
Speaker 1: day e H S H S h S. Especially monogramming
Speaker 1: if you're straight and you come from a trade community
Speaker 1: that's like country clubby and like Christian, you're going to
Speaker 1: have some monogram ship. I still have adopt kit from
Speaker 1: my high school graduation present that has like stt on
Speaker 1: it and it's like so embarrassing and I hate it. Thompson,
Speaker 1: Oh that is wow. Wait what's yours? Commins wows until
Speaker 1: you hit Cohen hard hard left and we're Jewish at
Speaker 1: this point. Congrats on that. By the way, it's all
Speaker 1: erotic exotic mashups getting married for once. George, you said
Speaker 1: something really troubling and the text before I'm scared this information.
Speaker 1: So here's so the information. The information is that I
Speaker 1: don't have a middle name. And that is like like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, like did they forget? Like what He's here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Okay, so birds are really complicated, like it
Speaker 1: totally see, like being like a total rush and forgetting.
Speaker 1: There's a second ment to this, which is that both
Speaker 1: my sisters do no, yes, there there's something really dark.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Here's the thing. If you look at
Speaker 1: our names, it's almost like my parents were slowly figuring
Speaker 1: out how middle names work. Because what happened was I
Speaker 1: don't have one. Then my sister, rather than having a
Speaker 1: middle name, has a first name and then a dash
Speaker 1: and then a second name on her birth on her passport,
Speaker 1: and then the third one actually has a real middle name.
Speaker 1: So it's almost like they were like, okay, attempt one,
Speaker 1: like I don't, let's just not even put anything down.
Speaker 1: I don't want to risk it. Attempt to. I guess
Speaker 1: it's one name, and then attempt three. They like, finally
Speaker 1: got it. I'm scared for that. Yeah, so how did that?
Speaker 1: Was that hard? Growing up? So here's the thing, um, I.
Speaker 1: First of all, middle names are generally a very like
Speaker 1: they don't exist everywhere, like you know, my family's Greek,
Speaker 1: like not, it's not like that common for all Greek,
Speaker 1: for Greek people to have min Damn, it's breaking out.
Speaker 1: Your global perspective is complicating my bring a global perspective, watched,
Speaker 1: this is my worldview. Don't make it like this. Keep
Speaker 1: it narrow. Maybe maybe Sam, just because you haven't read
Speaker 1: the Irish novelist Sally Rooney's books, normal people in the
Speaker 1: conversation with friends, you know, it doesn't mean you can't
Speaker 1: handle a little globalism. You know. The moment I found
Speaker 1: out she was irish, was today on this podcast this
Speaker 1: whole time years old. That's insane. Wait, Sam, she's That's
Speaker 1: the whole thing is that she's like really really like God,
Speaker 1: these are the things you have to know if you
Speaker 1: want to be in straight culture. Oh, she's how did
Speaker 1: she get famous? That's why she's like, she's like the
Speaker 1: big Yes, is like a huge success because she read
Speaker 1: her first book she was like five. I guess how
Speaker 1: the heck did she focus twenty four and writing a book.
Speaker 1: I mean, I worried. I'm worried about her at this one.
Speaker 1: I'm worried about Sally. The other thing about Rooney is
Speaker 1: that in all interviews she's like, I mean, she's just
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, I don't really pay attention to
Speaker 1: at all, Like, yeah, I guess I'm famous. If you
Speaker 1: say so. If she in a relationship, I need to know, yes,
Speaker 1: she is. In fact, I think there's like a controversy
Speaker 1: because she guy long term unless they've broken up in
Speaker 1: the last six months. That was the last time I
Speaker 1: checked in on her. But I do think I do
Speaker 1: know that there's like I guess it's controversial that he's
Speaker 1: kind of like from a wealthy family because she herself
Speaker 1: is an avowed Marxist. We love that. Okay, I smell
Speaker 1: a new book. Have you guys ever considered class anyway?
Speaker 1: I dot dot dot f y c class um parasite
Speaker 1: as you would say, parasite, vibes parasite. Uh so okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: literally your real name. So here's something so my So
Speaker 1: my family, like we um, We came over to America
Speaker 1: when I was young, and we moved back to Greece
Speaker 1: when I was a teenager as everyone else. So when
Speaker 1: I was living in the States and New Jersey, I
Speaker 1: was in a very like I would say, very like
Speaker 1: white Republican honestly, probably similar to whatever Princeton is, like Catherine,
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was like in a slightly
Speaker 1: different part of New Jersey, but um, a lot of
Speaker 1: like country clubs across very connecticuty And I truly, as
Speaker 1: much as like I in no way like pretend that
Speaker 1: I'm that I faced any kind of oppression. That it
Speaker 1: was very alienating, Like I truly had no idea what
Speaker 1: any of those things meant. Like I didn't know what
Speaker 1: when people were like the like the country. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what a country club was. I didn't know what
Speaker 1: any of these weird like sports were. This is this
Speaker 1: is absolutely disgusting. You just had the word country club,
Speaker 1: and I go, I really want to be LT. In
Speaker 1: my head, I was like, I wish we had BLT
Speaker 1: stuff for dinner. Cancel me. I still don't like. Also,
Speaker 1: this was during a time when like it was really
Speaker 1: it was cool for people to be wearing like double
Speaker 1: polos with like flips, or like guys wearing lily pullets
Speaker 1: or ties. Do you remember those? You Pulletzer? Of course,
Speaker 1: she's a legend, an absolute queen. Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like in the town of Princeton there's a Lily pulletzer store,
Speaker 1: a barber store and that's it. When vine store Vineyard vines.
Speaker 1: What about that brand that it's like a black Dog? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is that? Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: You do know what I'm talking about? Okay, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's like Cape cod or something. Wait, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: look it up. Black Dog, no brand, It's called the
Speaker 1: black Dog. George, you're making this Okay. Wait. The Black
Speaker 1: Dog is a restaurant in Tavern and Vineyard Haven on
Speaker 1: the island of Martha's Vineyard and they have okay, and
Speaker 1: they have desperate for attention. You're making all this, you know,
Speaker 1: and they have a good store. They have a store.
Speaker 1: There's literally a photo of the store on the Wikipedia page.
Speaker 1: And they just sell various things that just have a
Speaker 1: black dog and then save the black dog. Oh my god, sad.
Speaker 1: So yeah, what do you guys have to say about that?
Speaker 1: But to kind of close the loop, um, A distinct
Speaker 1: memory have, for instance, is ordering an LLL being backpack,
Speaker 1: but just ordering it with instead of initials, it just
Speaker 1: said George. Because I was like, okay, my name, which
Speaker 1: other people did too, but that was very much like
Speaker 1: not the norm, but that was actually kind of cool.
Speaker 1: It was like post I remember some of my friends
Speaker 1: to that and we thought that was really cool. Okay, interesting,
Speaker 1: I don't think Um, I've been screaming your name? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Is that Brian? Yeah? Do you want to
Speaker 1: come say hi? You're on a zoom? How were you zooming? Larry? Oh? Wait? Um?
Speaker 1: I can't? How are you so good? How are you?
Speaker 1: We're good? I did hear you? I heard like I
Speaker 1: heard something. I told them about three fourths were asking
Speaker 1: rats on the three fourths and then we asked how
Speaker 1: big your dick was, And then I was calling. I
Speaker 1: was like, Brian, come tell them how big your cock is?
Speaker 1: Too gross for Aline even I can't hear anything. She
Speaker 1: describes this is my dream podcast, and I can't hear it.
Speaker 1: I just talked. She describes my dick is being perfect.
Speaker 1: I say that, you know, darling, you could say that
Speaker 1: it's big, and she says, no, it's perfect. Recently, I guess,
Speaker 1: but it feels like it's like a way, It's like
Speaker 1: i'd rather say it's big, but like it is fucking perfect.
Speaker 1: Isn't that like it? But instead you really just double
Speaker 1: down on perfect. What I would say is that perfect
Speaker 1: means it's definitely big enough to please. Wow, that's what
Speaker 1: I would say it is. I'd say it's big enough
Speaker 1: to place. I once knew a guy who had tas
Speaker 1: so small the condom fell off, and now he's married,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, who married that dick? Wow? Amongst us,
Speaker 1: here's people don't know this about me. I absolutely, Oh,
Speaker 1: she can't hear me. I forget. Wait, okay, Brian, give
Speaker 1: us our guest back, give us our girl bye. Brian,
Speaker 1: um in your life, no, not in my whole life.
Speaker 1: You know his hair looks very good. Shaved his head
Speaker 1: and now that's like it grown out. Okay, wait back,
Speaker 1: I wanted to go back to the conversation if that's okay, Yes,
Speaker 1: I just want to say that, Oh it's just here.
Speaker 1: I'm getting a refill. I want to say, um, I
Speaker 1: think small dicks are incredible. Uh. Small tics made me
Speaker 1: feel like I'm a sex god and I can do
Speaker 1: whatever I want. Call me Pete Holmes because I'm sex god. Um,
Speaker 1: comedy sex god. And the whole double on Tendra is
Speaker 1: like it's about those three things, comedy, sex, and god.
Speaker 1: He was Christian, but also he's a comedy sex god.
Speaker 1: He is further and you know what. You know what
Speaker 1: is my one of my favorite phrases that has defined
Speaker 1: my entire life when Bridget Jones picks up the phone
Speaker 1: in the morning and she's just been fucked and she goes, uh, wanton.
Speaker 1: This is Bridget Jones like wanton sex goddess with a
Speaker 1: naughty man between her thighs. And I was like, that's
Speaker 1: what I want to be, a wanton sex goddess. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what's crazy. That was the first movie I
Speaker 1: watched in Quarantine. It's so good. It's so good and
Speaker 1: absolutely perfect rom com. I mean, yeah, no, it's because
Speaker 1: you always want And I guess there are other ones
Speaker 1: that are like I'm trying to think of like classic
Speaker 1: rom coms, but that really does just hit all the
Speaker 1: pleasure centers. I guess it is because it's literally Jane Austen.
Speaker 1: But it's also like just like the casting is so perfect,
Speaker 1: and like I mean obviously anything where a woman is
Speaker 1: not like a size zero, I'm like, please please give
Speaker 1: me more of this, like because she's so hot and
Speaker 1: like lusted after, but she always talks about like wanting
Speaker 1: to lose weight and stuff, and I'm like, that's being
Speaker 1: a girl. Well that is the other thing that I
Speaker 1: remember it being such a thing. I remembering it's such
Speaker 1: a thing that she like gained so much like the
Speaker 1: press Sure that movie was like, who's normally normal? Looks
Speaker 1: like a giant elephant in this movie, Renee, how did
Speaker 1: you do it? Did you just NonStop just like drink lard?
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, I don't know, yahn't even it
Speaker 1: was for you and it was hard, but now I'm
Speaker 1: back to normal, thank god. And then you watch the
Speaker 1: movie and she truly looks and then for the third movie,
Speaker 1: I think she refused to gain weight and so she's
Speaker 1: just like the whole plot of the movie is like,
Speaker 1: well I finally didn't drop those final pounds and it's
Speaker 1: like you're as lighting on the firepole was like iconic.
Speaker 1: Let's see. That was like and she and I have
Speaker 1: to I mean, I genuinely do think she looks good,
Speaker 1: like her face looks good like. It's it's not it
Speaker 1: isn't like one of those transformations either way, because people
Speaker 1: gain or lose weight and then like you know, actors
Speaker 1: will not look like themselves if they like have a
Speaker 1: big transformation. But with that one, she genuinely looked great. Anyway.
Speaker 1: I have. I just have such an endless crush. I'm
Speaker 1: calling Firth like he can who are you all? Is
Speaker 1: number one slave crushes. I'm curious. Oh, I think, um,
Speaker 1: James Gandolfini, but he's so do you know what I can?
Speaker 1: Can they be dead? Yeah, it's okay, Yeah, James Gondelfini,
Speaker 1: that movie with James Gandolfini and Julia Lleuie Dreyfus. No,
Speaker 1: it's really good. It's really good. It's really good. Does Catherine,
Speaker 1: what is your story? It's not really a story. Just
Speaker 1: at one time, my friend's dad, I'm listening into the room.
Speaker 1: He says to me, like, turn on this channel. There's
Speaker 1: a show about It's not turn on there's a show
Speaker 1: about James Gamfelbeinie funny whole number one. Okay, this is
Speaker 1: not at all my current one. But the first thing
Speaker 1: that came to mind was the peak Jude Law era.
Speaker 1: What was that reaction? I have to respect just famously,
Speaker 1: Pat and I don't think he's hot. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you could argue either way right now. But for me,
Speaker 1: it was like like have you seen Closer? So like
Speaker 1: in Closer, I thought he was really and in fact
Speaker 1: speaking closer, who's the other guy? Oh my god? Why
Speaker 1: am I blanking that guy from like the Nick? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: wait what's his name? Fuck? What's the guy from the Nick? Clive?
Speaker 1: I would say. Clive Owen was also a bit like
Speaker 1: Clive Owen to me is very sexy. Oh you know
Speaker 1: it was hot Schreiber. He is hot. He is so hot.
Speaker 1: He's hot. Fuck getting I'm wearing literally, um, I'm actually
Speaker 1: I shouldn't start. I just I got like a podcast
Speaker 1: things like a men's wear thing and we ordered these
Speaker 1: boxers and I've been sort of wearing them as an outfit.
Speaker 1: Was gonna say, my crush is Awstoly Like early early days,
Speaker 1: it was like Ashton Cutcher, Robert Pattinson And now I'm like,
Speaker 1: is it post Malone? So I know, yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to have I'm allowed to have sex with post Malone?
Speaker 1: Says what's hot about him? To you? Everything? Like wait,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look him up again just to make sure
Speaker 1: this is well. Talents like not hot to me? Is
Speaker 1: that crazy? That's the crazy thing I've ever heard my life.
Speaker 1: Talent is not hot me. No, I literally do not't care.
Speaker 1: I just need specific like body and maybe an attitude.
Speaker 1: That's so crazy to me because I'm the opposite. I
Speaker 1: really like I'm often attracted to, like I'll be attracted
Speaker 1: to my mind demisexual. Oh wait, what's happening? Wait? Now
Speaker 1: what happened? Okay, I'm just got a work email and
Speaker 1: I was like, please God in Heaven and Earth, be
Speaker 1: good news. And here's what it was, medium news. It
Speaker 1: didn't go. I need the direction. Someone told me should
Speaker 1: sing less on my podcast, and I was like, don't
Speaker 1: listen to my podcast if you don't like it was
Speaker 1: it like a commenter like say with me read the
Speaker 1: reviews um, which overall was like amazing because when people
Speaker 1: it's crazy to think that what we do well, you're
Speaker 1: doing here. People actually hear we have not. I have
Speaker 1: to say, you know, we're at some point we are
Speaker 1: going to get a negative review and it's going to
Speaker 1: be crushing. So far we've only gotten positive ones. But fine,
Speaker 1: you're riding high on the back. Yeah. I can't use
Speaker 1: words the way I used to be able to do,
Speaker 1: you know what, Sam, I mean, I am totally forgetting
Speaker 1: the English language. I also do you want to know
Speaker 1: something like kind of weird? So I you know I
Speaker 1: speak Greek? Wait you didn't let us say yes, what
Speaker 1: do you think should we? I mean I actually love
Speaker 1: that it's Friday night, like we're actually having a really
Speaker 1: good night. Like how weird is it? You? Like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear it, but if it's like just
Speaker 1: like gonna add a little spice to our night, I'll
Speaker 1: hear it. It's definitely a spice a spice adder Catherine.
Speaker 1: It's seasoning. It's kind of the anchovies of oh yeah, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: So I you know I speak Greek with my family,
Speaker 1: and I you know, when I was in high school,
Speaker 1: I my English got worse because I was speaking Greek
Speaker 1: all the time. And then when I moved back to
Speaker 1: the States, my Greek got worse because I, you know,
Speaker 1: only speak it when I'm on the front of my family.
Speaker 1: And what's weird that's happening currently is because I don't
Speaker 1: interact with a lot of people, but I do talk
Speaker 1: to my family often. I think I'm like back to
Speaker 1: fifty fifty, and I genuinely think my English is getting worse.
Speaker 1: Like I often will like reach for words and not
Speaker 1: think of them. But you know, it's so hot when
Speaker 1: people are trying to think of a word. When people
Speaker 1: are like um like they're like they have sort of
Speaker 1: um fair in their face. Just like that that that
Speaker 1: moment of silence is like you get to look kind
Speaker 1: of smart because you're like thinking, like people can see
Speaker 1: you think. Does that make any sense? No? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: you just said that. You just said you don't care
Speaker 1: about people thinking, and you're only interested in outside appearances,
Speaker 1: right right, But like the way like I don't care
Speaker 1: about them having talent, like I care about maybe like
Speaker 1: the performance of a certain like the performance of smart
Speaker 1: I think it's hot. Okay, fact Mary kill intelligence talent? Um,
Speaker 1: uh height, that's such a good one. I would talent
Speaker 1: fuck talent. I think that could be like fun Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I guess intelligence. I don't really care about height.
Speaker 1: Oh see, I think I would marry intelligence and funck
Speaker 1: height talent. Well, yeah, because I'm like I'm talent. Wait, yes,
Speaker 1: that's it. I want to be the star. I mean
Speaker 1: I think you know what I think that I think
Speaker 1: are like the kind of talent I'm attracted to choires intelligence.
Speaker 1: So I think that's why I'm leaning towards intelligence. Right,
Speaker 1: what's your answer? Um, Well, I kind of was going
Speaker 1: to go in a different direction. No, I think my
Speaker 1: I think, I I think. I guess I also don't
Speaker 1: care about height. But if I were to change how
Speaker 1: to make a general physical appearance, maybe that would make
Speaker 1: it different like just hotness. No, I think intelligence talent
Speaker 1: height isn't like we should like take that Okay, okay, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: So so then what I would do is I mean,
Speaker 1: I do think I value in a partner intelligence more
Speaker 1: than talent, Like I would rather someone be really smart,
Speaker 1: but you know, have a I don't know, like an
Speaker 1: interesting job than someone be like a genius painter, but
Speaker 1: be like a complete psychopath. That's what I'm thinking. I
Speaker 1: don't want. I don't want a talented genius who like
Speaker 1: keeps to himself and has erratic moods and like, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: so I think I would funk talent, marry intelligence, kill height.
Speaker 1: Is that what you said, Sam? I was I wasn't listening.
Speaker 1: Yea this town who sucked hight? Okay, wait have we
Speaker 1: been doing this podcast forever? I'm sorry? Have we? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: it's been an hour and twenty five minutes. It's literally
Speaker 1: be well. I also feel like the thing about zoom
Speaker 1: pods that you don't remember it's a podcast and you
Speaker 1: feel like you're just catching up with your friends. Then
Speaker 1: you say, you're like, was I being at all interesting?
Speaker 1: But guess what? Guess what? Pot So we always talked
Speaker 1: about the podcast while we make the podcast, and how
Speaker 1: have we been doing? Yeah? Katherine Radas, it feels like
Speaker 1: the most effortless thing in America because it feels like
Speaker 1: a little bit like like, I'm just worried we've been
Speaker 1: boring the fact that I didn't like check the clock
Speaker 1: every ten minutes, says even during my own podcasts and
Speaker 1: it was this over yeah, and this has just been
Speaker 1: an absolute delight. I'm sorry. I hope I brought enough
Speaker 1: spark goals to the end. Well, it was. I feel
Speaker 1: like it was us and I feel like we were like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're coming off on this, this is our
Speaker 1: first only in your head. Because of that, I think
Speaker 1: you've been absolutely perfect start to finish, perfect landing ticket
Speaker 1: and you know what I will say, I'm like, it
Speaker 1: is it's been so nice to catch up with you.
Speaker 1: But I'm also like, wouldn't it be great if we
Speaker 1: didn't have to? I was just thinking, like, can we
Speaker 1: like stop the pod and like talk for a few
Speaker 1: minutes or is it like, let's do it, but let's
Speaker 1: first do let's first to our final segment? All right, Sam?
Speaker 1: Should we even do it? I think we have to
Speaker 1: because it's like it's like our final segment and it's
Speaker 1: just like we did the first to first one. No,
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right if we didn't Okay, well the
Speaker 1: final segment. Please don't be mad at us, Katherine, you're fuming.
Speaker 1: I was. I was fu mane. What's that like, you
Speaker 1: know from Long Island? Yeah? Um M, I was fu Man.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. God damn it. It's so good.
Speaker 1: Um So. Their last segments called like shout outs, and
Speaker 1: in the great tradition of straight culture, we love to
Speaker 1: give a shout out to up you know, anything that
Speaker 1: we feel like giving a shout out too. And it's
Speaker 1: important to keep in mind as you do it. These
Speaker 1: are high energy. You gotta imagine you are at you
Speaker 1: are in the studio audience at t r L and
Speaker 1: you're giving a shout out to your high school. Um so,
Speaker 1: this is kind of the peak of your life, you
Speaker 1: can imagine. Um. I guess I'll go first. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: let me see, Okay, what's up, listeners. UM I just
Speaker 1: want to give a quick shout out to the show.
Speaker 1: Mrs America. I have been watching this show for the
Speaker 1: last two weeks. I started it two weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: every single time I watched it, me and me should
Speaker 1: get in a fight. I don't know why. We both
Speaker 1: like the show. Nothing that bad is happening, and yet
Speaker 1: something about it makes us both mad at each other.
Speaker 1: Usually at the time we want the dog. Afterwards is upsetting,
Speaker 1: But the actors are good. It's so well cast, and
Speaker 1: baby do I want to live in the seventies. I
Speaker 1: love he Was America. I've also been we've also been
Speaker 1: watching This America and it's really good. Watch it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I actually I genuinely think it's it's good, and it's
Speaker 1: like it's just like cartoonish enough, like obviously it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a you know, heightened version of it, and
Speaker 1: everyone's playing like caricatures of the characters. Literally, rose Byrne
Speaker 1: as Glorias sign him is like my glasses and my hair.
Speaker 1: I love her her really just because it's literally like,
Speaker 1: just because I have hair doesn't mean I'm not smart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's absolutely like doesn't. Yeah. Literally, it's was like on
Speaker 1: her face behind her glasses and she's like, welcome to
Speaker 1: Miss magazine. Yeah yeah, we probably about yeah yeah yeah Vagina.
Speaker 1: Does that make you uncomfortable? Abortion? Abortion words like that
Speaker 1: or okay, high listeners. I want to give a shout
Speaker 1: out to my new walk. Look at that, um for
Speaker 1: anyone who didn't see that, I took out my giant
Speaker 1: walk and I showed it on camera. Um. Here's the
Speaker 1: thing with my giant walk is I thought, first of all,
Speaker 1: walk w okay as in um cooking for cooking for stufrying.
Speaker 1: I bought it thinking it was gonna be a normal
Speaker 1: size for my kitchen and I need new cooking stuff
Speaker 1: because my oven is stay it with me broken and
Speaker 1: my landlord refuses to fix it. And at this point,
Speaker 1: even if you wanted to fix it, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to let anyone in my apartment because of the pandemic.
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of only using soap top. And my
Speaker 1: window is broken, but that's a different story. And so
Speaker 1: I got this rock thinking, Okay, I'm gonna do so
Speaker 1: much cooking, this is gonna be great. I paid almost
Speaker 1: two for it, and what do you know, it's literally
Speaker 1: the size of my entire stove top. It is three
Speaker 1: times as big as I thought it was gonna be.
Speaker 1: Now it's just so now. It just kind of have
Speaker 1: it in its box as a reminder that at one
Speaker 1: point I'm going to have a really large kitchen and
Speaker 1: I'm going to be able to cook all the sture
Speaker 1: fries I want. And that to day has not come
Speaker 1: yet for me. Who one day? Yeah that cost how much?
Speaker 1: Um well, it's like rosette. Oh my god, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: I didn't cock that, as they say, I didn't cock
Speaker 1: the brand I mean I actually, you know, like I
Speaker 1: don't know if you had this during the first couple
Speaker 1: of weeks of all of this, but like wanting to
Speaker 1: invest in certain home things being like this is like,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously I'm not going out, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to restaurants, like I have some extra spending cash. I'm
Speaker 1: going to buy some things that are like good staples
Speaker 1: to have in the home. And for whatever reason, I
Speaker 1: thought that was one thing I should buy. Can you
Speaker 1: really not use it? No? I mean I can. It's
Speaker 1: just like it truly takes up, like it's so comically
Speaker 1: large because you have so many leftovers. And that's how
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know it's to put in
Speaker 1: my leftovers in my mini fridge. Oh you have any Yeah? Thanks, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just came from a mini space. Um um, okay,
Speaker 1: Catherine us out Hey, guys, what the hell is it? Askers.
Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick shout out to
Speaker 1: my absolute savior Queen throughout quarantine, which has been my
Speaker 1: jeweled head bands from Amazon. Half of them we're going
Speaker 1: tips up only on camera. It's an amazing price to
Speaker 1: look always fashionable, always dress up by just putting a
Speaker 1: headband on your fucking head, you stupid bit. These range
Speaker 1: from fourteen to twenty three dollars with Amazon. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is it bad to use Amazon? I don't remember. I
Speaker 1: can't stop up. I'm that person anyway, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Don't want to give a shouting and you also make
Speaker 1: my face look dinner not having a thin faces are bad,
Speaker 1: but there's something about listing my head up that makes
Speaker 1: the funk out tonight to dance um incredible. I just
Speaker 1: came to check in on me. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the post have been over for thirty minutes and recording
Speaker 1: the Amazon ants I told you about. Okay, we need
Speaker 1: to stop recording. We can get into Okay. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you, guys. I have a friend zoom
Speaker 1: with friends at eight thirties, so I have ten minutes
Speaker 1: to talk to you. That's totally fine, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: press stop. Okay, Okay. We should say like bye, okay, okay, bye,
Speaker 1: thank you having me. I love you guys. You're soul.
Speaker 1: Your