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Speaker 1: What's going on everybody? John middlecop three and Out podcast

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Colin Coward and his podcast network. UH.

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Speaker 1: Coming up a couple of things. Just finished watching the

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Speaker 1: Thursday night game. Have a couple of quick thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the Texans, also Gruden, the Amori, some leftover things, and

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Speaker 1: just some thoughts I have on John Gruden in the

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Speaker 1: entire experiment. I was wrong. I actually thought he'd be good.

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Speaker 1: I expected the Raiders this entire offseason before Khalil Macott

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Speaker 1: traded to actually be pretty good, be competitive, might even

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Speaker 1: be a sleeper playoff team that's obviously long gone. And

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Speaker 1: John Gruden is taking the Raiders back to their good

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Speaker 1: old roots, back to the team that didn't have a

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Speaker 1: winning season for fourteen seasons. Uh. And then I'll go

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Speaker 1: over a bunch of games around the league, and obviously

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Speaker 1: always do the Middlecoff mail bag. If you want to

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Speaker 1: get in I it's the last segment of the show.

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Speaker 1: D M me in my Instagram at John Middlecoff and uh,

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Speaker 1: I'll reply on the podcast. It's it's very easy at

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff Instagram. Slide up in my d m s

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to that. I think I owe an

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Speaker 1: apology because I constantly talked about how much the a

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Speaker 1: and that that was my thought this offseason, thought early

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Speaker 1: on in the season. But I think it's kind of

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Speaker 1: shaping out that the NFC is a little top heavy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams are excellent. I think the Saints

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Speaker 1: are really good, and the Vikings are good. Have a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions on the Packers. The NFC East is

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Speaker 1: kind of in shambles right now. Uh, the NFC North,

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Speaker 1: you know, pretty up for grabs. Actually it might be

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Speaker 1: one of the better divisions in football. But when you

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Speaker 1: look at the a f C the f C West,

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Speaker 1: while the bottom two teams, the Raiders and the Broncos, stink,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are excellent and the Chargers are really good.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the a f C North, if

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are one of your average teams, you're in

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Speaker 1: pretty good shape. I still I think the Bengals are

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Speaker 1: going nowhere. I think they end up winning the division.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots are the cream of the crop in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and the a f C South a division that you me.

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Speaker 1: Everyone makes fun of it's, you know what we call

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Speaker 1: in this business, low hanging fruit. It's the easy thing

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Speaker 1: to do. But I also think that the narratives surrounding

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Speaker 1: it are true. Uh you just this season in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen, the NFC or the excuse me, the

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Speaker 1: FC South, the Texans started owing three the Titans. Mariota

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Speaker 1: does not look good. The Jaguars defense is kind of

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Speaker 1: a shell of itself, given up multiple games of a

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Speaker 1: lot of points where they were not doing it last year.

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Speaker 1: And and Bortles has been atrocious of late so and

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Speaker 1: then obviously the Colts just you know, are are going

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Speaker 1: to a gunfight with a dull knife for most weeks.

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Speaker 1: Beside Andrew Luck that is like a howitzer, you know,

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Speaker 1: or a bazooka. But I'm watching the game the night

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Speaker 1: and listen the Dolphins snink their season's over now. The

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Speaker 1: tan Hills hurt that they got no chance to make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Uh fun little story while lasted, but their

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Speaker 1: deep ut of coordinator classic meathead with the beard, you know,

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Speaker 1: throwing his iPad or you know. Actually, Microsoft would get

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Speaker 1: mad the Microsoft surface. They pay up rhemium for that

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Speaker 1: advertising on the ground like like, yo, bro, tell your

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Speaker 1: guys where to line up, Tell your guys not to

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Speaker 1: blow these coverages. Coach, teach, You're being paid, you know,

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Speaker 1: seven figures to be the defensive coordinator. Throwing your iPad

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Speaker 1: on the ground doesn't do anything. Coach these guys up,

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Speaker 1: figure something out. You're running, you're letting DeAndre Hopkins, who

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Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick deserves credit on this. I I remember when

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Speaker 1: he was coming out Louis I was, he works at ESPN.

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Speaker 1: I worked with him for the Philadelphia Eagles. Loved Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: he was. I mean, obviously he was a prospect, but

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Speaker 1: I you know, at Clemson, I didn't realize he was this.

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Speaker 1: He is incredible. I mean, what a dominant, dominant force.

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Speaker 1: Another guy that I looked at like a stock and

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Speaker 1: I said I would sell. People called me crazy and

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Speaker 1: I said last year, I would look to trade J. J. Watt.

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Speaker 1: multiple injuries. He looked like a shell of himself last

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Speaker 1: Reggie White, would you know, probably the best defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: Pro and a Pro bowler again. The one thing the

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Speaker 1: it was you know, Bill O'Brien had got hired that

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Speaker 1: mcgloyin was their quarterback. He actually wasn't even their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: but I just remember leaving that practice, the facility is

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Speaker 1: I think we forget sometimes and there's few things in

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Speaker 1: Like it's my own fault wherever I go. And I

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Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen, if the WiFi is slow, I mean

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Speaker 1: and ultimately, as I just keep thinking, like God, Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: it's felt like five months, and he looked better than

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Speaker 1: It's like whenever Lebron James comes down off like a

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Speaker 1: team is now five and three. Obviously, they've won five

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Speaker 1: checked their schedule. It's pretty much. Let me yank up

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Speaker 1: the internet a joke. Next week they go to the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: say they win one, lose one. Now they're six and four.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy that they get to twelve wins,

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Speaker 1: we all need to do this. We I make fun

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Speaker 1: the Texans are They're not just coming. I mean they're

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win that division, and someone probably the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: is Bill O'Brien gonna be the first coach fired. No,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna actually host a home playoff game because he's

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Speaker 1: meathead idiot. He's not. I've seen him coach. He's good.

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Speaker 1: when you play the team twice. The teams haven't played,

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Speaker 1: so I wouldn't discount it. But this is a big

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Speaker 1: game for both these two teams. Ones the defending Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champs, the other was the defending a f C

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Speaker 1: runner up. But I mean that they took They gave

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots as good of a shot in

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Speaker 1: Foxborough as I can remember in years. And I think

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Speaker 1: we both I mean now we both because there's only

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Speaker 1: one person talking, but I would imagine most people listening

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Speaker 1: just assumed. Now, I didn't think the Eagles were gonna repeat,

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Speaker 1: you know, but if you told me Carson Wentz would

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Speaker 1: come back very early in the season, they'd have some injuries,

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Speaker 1: but they did last year, I'd say, yeah, they'd find

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Speaker 1: a way to get the ten and six in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Say with the Jacksonville Jaguars, yeah, they're not gonna be

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Speaker 1: as good as and o'collen loves to crush the Saxonville,

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Speaker 1: but that their roster was so damn good. If Blake

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Speaker 1: just is solid that they'd win nine ten games and

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Speaker 1: be right in the mix again, well, there's a chance

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Speaker 1: to either of these teams to make a date date.

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Speaker 1: It really is pretty wild, you know, I think the

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Speaker 1: Eagles will right the ship. I think the Eagles will

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Speaker 1: win this game. Uh, and then have a chance because

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Speaker 1: as long as you're five hundred at the halfway point, well,

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Speaker 1: if you go five or six wins in the second half,

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Speaker 1: and you won four games, that's nine and seven, ten

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Speaker 1: and six, and you are you are heading into the

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Speaker 1: middle of December with a chance to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: You might not, but usually control your own destiny in

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Speaker 1: that scenario. If you're three and five, if you are

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Speaker 1: three and five at the halfway point, I mean, five

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Speaker 1: and three is not getting it done the second half,

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Speaker 1: even though most teams in the league besides, like the

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Speaker 1: Patriots take a you know how off the season going

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Speaker 1: five and three, that's a ten and six space. Well,

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Speaker 1: the problem is that that equals five hundred if you

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Speaker 1: start three and five. I didn't go to Harvard, but

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Speaker 1: it's pretty basic math. You basically to make the playoffs

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Speaker 1: starting three and five, you probably gotta go seven and

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Speaker 1: one in the second half. Maybe six and two doesn't.

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Speaker 1: But how many teams start three and five then go

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Speaker 1: six and two. You know they don't have like I'm

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Speaker 1: not counting, you know, a Jimmy Garoppolo type, you know,

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Speaker 1: trade just a team that's not gonna make a major

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Speaker 1: trade or a major move a quarterback. So it's not

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Speaker 1: must win for Philly, it is must win for Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: because to me, Jacksonville loses game, it's over. And I

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Speaker 1: know Blake stats you know, across the pond or are

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Speaker 1: pretty awesome. I'm pretty fair. I might actually set my

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Speaker 1: alarm maybe for halftime of this game, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big six thirty Sunday guy, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: i might roll out a bed around eight, you know,

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Speaker 1: check out. Hopefully it's a good game. Check out. The

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Speaker 1: second half Redskin Giants is interesting just because like the

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Speaker 1: Giants really just quitting. They just traded Snacks for a

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Speaker 1: fifth rounder. Uh that's that's really the way to tank

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Speaker 1: in the NFL is by trading players. Eli shot, he's terrible.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be as long as Eli as Your quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: can be very difficult to win. To win a game,

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Speaker 1: obviously they're not winning the division, but the Redskins can

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Speaker 1: have complete control of the division whether Philly wins or loses.

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Speaker 1: Like they start five and two, they're in really really

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Speaker 1: good shape. Their defensive solid give Alex you know, some

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Speaker 1: credit here. He just finds a way to win. Now,

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Speaker 1: he's played on some really good teams the last six years,

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Speaker 1: those last couple of years in San Francisco, and then

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Speaker 1: the last five in Kansas City. This Washington team is

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Speaker 1: probably the worst of them all. But they're not bad.

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Speaker 1: I mean that they got They've drafted a lot of

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Speaker 1: pretty good players the last several years. Chris Thompson is

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Speaker 1: a difference maker. Uh. Their defensive personnel and the especially

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Speaker 1: the front four is really good. I like, I like

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Speaker 1: Watchington pretty big in this game. Uh. Another game that's very,

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Speaker 1: very fascinating because my my theory when the season started

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Speaker 1: was this guy was gonna be the next head coach

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Speaker 1: at USC And then they started hot and they looked

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Speaker 1: really good, and they looked like a lock to make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Now they've lost a couple of tight games

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Speaker 1: in these last couple of weeks, and I'm not so sure. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Last week was really really devastating for the Ravens when

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker, who's, you know, arguably one of the best

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Speaker 1: kickers I've ever seen, who's probably one of the top

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Speaker 1: five player on their team, which is crazy to say

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Speaker 1: because he's a kicker. But if you just tell me,

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Speaker 1: like Justin Tucker has a kick to win the game,

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Speaker 1: you know, you just he's gonna make it. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like Tiger Woods in his prime has a put

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Speaker 1: to win the Masters. You're like, yeah, he's gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: It's just and he missed. Now, they still might have lost,

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Speaker 1: they might have lost an overtime. Hell, they might have

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Speaker 1: lost that game in regulation. But that that's the difference

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Speaker 1: between them being five and two right now in four

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Speaker 1: and three, and the problem with being four and three

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Speaker 1: is now they're going on the road to Carolina, which

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Speaker 1: has pulled some games kind of out of there. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think they're quite, you know, a

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Speaker 1: normal form two team, Like I don't view them as

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Speaker 1: a twelve win team, but they do have a long

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Speaker 1: history of making the playoffs every year. Ron Rivera, it

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Speaker 1: almost feels like one of the most underrated coaches in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Give Cam credit. He's kind of adapted his

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Speaker 1: style working with North Turner Christian McCaffrey has gotten a

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Speaker 1: lot better. But if you're the Ravens and you start

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Speaker 1: and you lose this game in your four and four,

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Speaker 1: like I don't think you're making the playoffs. And I

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Speaker 1: think we can start the countdown of like John Harba

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Speaker 1: gonna get fired if they go eight and eight and

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Speaker 1: miss the playoffs, because I know this, the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: are gonna end up with nine wins. They obviously have

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Speaker 1: the tie so that that tie at not having a win.

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Speaker 1: There might be the difference between ten and at not

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Speaker 1: having double digit wins, but they're gonna end up at

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Speaker 1: nine at minimum. They still might have end up you know, ten,

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Speaker 1: five and one, but they're gonna win nine, so eight

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Speaker 1: and eight is not I don't know how the the

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Speaker 1: wild card standings will play out, because there's probably eight

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Speaker 1: and eight might win the South. Uh, the Chargers are

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Speaker 1: gonna get a wild card spot. There might not be

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Speaker 1: a you know, an eight and eight team in the

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Speaker 1: NFC East. So eight wins or excuse me, nine wins,

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Speaker 1: eight wins could compete for a wild card spot, depending

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Speaker 1: on how the tire breaker works if you're the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: But for the most part, it's very very unlikely that

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Speaker 1: eight nate would get you that second wild card spot,

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Speaker 1: so you would miss the playoffs and get fired. And

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Speaker 1: if you're four and four, that they would be in

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Speaker 1: chambles because they'd have some terrible losses. They would have

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Speaker 1: some really really bad losses. So I I think this

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Speaker 1: borderline must win for the Baltimore Ravens. The Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 1: were coming back last week to win in Philly, have

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Speaker 1: somewhat of a buffer now. Uh. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: end up in the playoffs, which is not really breaking

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Speaker 1: news here, but I think the pressure in this game

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Speaker 1: on the road is on the Baltimore Ravens. And I

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Speaker 1: you know, the biggest game, best game of the week

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Speaker 1: is New Orleans at Minnesota rematch of that Divisional round

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Speaker 1: last year. What a great game. I said it from

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Speaker 1: the beginning. I knew when they had lost back to

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Speaker 1: back games, I guess they had tied and then they

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Speaker 1: lost to when they played the Rams on Sunday Night

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Speaker 1: football or excuse me, Thursday night football that I did

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Speaker 1: not think that, and they were getting crushed. Minnesota's overright,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, Minnesota's gonna be fine. Well, what have

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Speaker 1: they done. They've rattled off a bunch of They've rattled

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Speaker 1: off three straight. Now they're four two and one. They

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Speaker 1: beat the Saints, they'd be you know, obviously five two

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Speaker 1: and one, and we'll be like, God, can Minnesota. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when the NFC, I got news for you, they can.

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Speaker 1: They got a big time coach, their quarterback solid, they

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Speaker 1: got a big time offensive coordinator. This is a huge

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Speaker 1: test for New Orleans. Uh. New Orleans is an elite

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Speaker 1: on offense, they really are. They can do it all. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: they've gotten better. They just traded for Eli Apple from

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Speaker 1: the Giants. They just need a corner depth. But I

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Speaker 1: like Minnesota in this game. I like Minnesota to get

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Speaker 1: right back in the mix for a home field by

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I just view them as a you know,

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Speaker 1: a eleven twelve win team, and this is a this

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Speaker 1: is a huge game. Now, the revenge factor for the

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Speaker 1: Saints losing that game, I don't think it necessarily matters

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Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins now they're I don't know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that'll be played up so much on Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: But I just think there's a lot on the line

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Speaker 1: in this game in terms of home field buys, the seating,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I think Minnesota's a borderline lock. Uh.

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Speaker 1: When it's all said and done, in the dust settles

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Speaker 1: to win that division. In terms of the NFC North,

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Speaker 1: I listen, I just kind of crushed Carolina. Uh. When

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Speaker 1: I say crushed, like I I think they're tadbit overrated. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They've had some crazy comeback wins, and you know when

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Speaker 1: when you when you live by getting down earlier in

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Speaker 1: games and then come storming back, like eventually your luck's

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Speaker 1: bound to run out. But I do view Carolina like

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Speaker 1: a playoff team. So the Saints, you know, you probably

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Speaker 1: gotta win twelve games to lock to win the South.

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Speaker 1: Eleven might do it, but there's a chance if you

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Speaker 1: win eleven games, Carolina might win eleven games. Like Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: If you win eleven games, ain't no one else win

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Speaker 1: eleven games that division. Hell, I don't even think the

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Speaker 1: Packers are making the playoffs. But I'm very excited for

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Speaker 1: this Sunday night game. It's been this is I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say it's quite New England Kansas City, but this is

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Speaker 1: probably a top three or four matchup that you could

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Speaker 1: make if you just were, you know, playing fantasy football matchup.

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Speaker 1: So very excited for Minnesota, New Orleans. Okay, before we

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Speaker 1: I see opinion on Iron Eagle. Listen at Anything's Fair

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Speaker 1: Game also on the d m s like I like

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Speaker 1: this one opinion on Iron Eagle. Where does he rank

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Speaker 1: in your commentator power rankings? Uh? I think he'd be

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Speaker 1: right up there. My only problem, off the top of

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Speaker 1: my head, he does games with Dan Fouts. I think

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Speaker 1: Dan Fouts is beyond terrible. Like they need to yank

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Speaker 1: him off the broadcast. He should no longer be doing it.

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Speaker 1: Obviously a legend, an NFL staple for a long time,

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Speaker 1: but but his time is up to me. Iron Is

647
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Speaker 1: is really good. I think they're in the NFL. You

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Speaker 1: know from play by play standpoint, Al's the cream of

649
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Speaker 1: the crop. Joe Buck is excellent. Nance is Nance is

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Speaker 1: really good. I just sometimes I'm a golf guy. He

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Speaker 1: I like a little more energy. You know, I don't

652
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Speaker 1: need Kevin Hardland on on basketball, but I think Joe

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Speaker 1: Buck is the best play by. What makes Joe Buck

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Speaker 1: so incredible is that Joe can call a baseball game,

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Speaker 1: which is much slower pace and be elite at it,

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Speaker 1: and then call a football game and be excellent. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Jim Nance's obviously an all time great broadcaster,

658
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Speaker 1: but he's a little more monotone for my liking. Now

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Speaker 1: Tony's helping him out a lot this year. But but

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Speaker 1: my biggest issue with I an Eagle is the moment

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Speaker 1: Dan Fouts is doing a game and I occasionally get

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Speaker 1: that crew living in the Bay Area because they end

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Speaker 1: up on like, you know, a random Raider, you know,

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Speaker 1: Raiders against the Chargers. It's just a tough listen for Fouts,

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Speaker 1: not not Iron Eagle, who again I really like. So

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Speaker 1: he'd he'd be uh, he'd be near the top. He'd

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Speaker 1: definitely be near the top. Okay, John love the podcast

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Speaker 1: with all the Patriots draft equity equity. I think they

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Speaker 1: got like three three, you know, one first round or

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Speaker 1: in two seconds, so it's not that much equity. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, I see what you're saying, do you see

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Speaker 1: them drafting Brady's replacement or trading down and stockpiling picks

673
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Speaker 1: as usual? You know, you never know with Belichick. The

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Speaker 1: problem with assuming he's going to draft the replacement is

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Speaker 1: they always draft so late in the first round. So

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Speaker 1: even if you got multiple first round or second round

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Speaker 1: picks to trade up, like how high are you really getting?

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Speaker 1: You can never discount anything with Belichick. Uh, I don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily think that he's worried about like five years from now,

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Speaker 1: even though he's a big picture guy, not that he's

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Speaker 1: living in the moment, because that's not really the way

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Speaker 1: he's wired. He is a big I'm not clearly he's

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Speaker 1: a big picture guy. But when it comes to Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: because you could say borderline the risk they took this year, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, for a team that's had an incredible backup

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Speaker 1: plan the last four they invested Jimmy Garoppolos, the highest

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Speaker 1: draft pick he's ever used on a quarterback in New England.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a little skewed because you know, once they

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Speaker 1: drafted Brady in the sixth round and he became the starter.

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Speaker 1: I mean they had a young starting quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: next fifteen years and then obviously they had a draft

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Speaker 1: one when Brady got older. So when you have a

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Speaker 1: you know, the best starting quarterback or one of them

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Speaker 1: in the league, you're not gonna be drafting quarterbacks that

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Speaker 1: high because you're trying to win Super Bowls, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean check out how many uh second round quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: was Bill polly and drafting when Peyton Manning was on

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Speaker 1: the team. But ultimately the point stands is, eventually he's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna have the draft one. Maybe it's this year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's really that consumed with it,

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Speaker 1: just in the sense that I mean he he rolled

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Speaker 1: into the season and he's played all year long. Brian

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Speaker 1: Hoyer is his backup. Now, Belichick is good enough, Like

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Speaker 1: they could win a game with Brian Hoyer, but they

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Speaker 1: could not win a big game, Like they wouldn't beat

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Uh, they couldn't beat the Chargers. They couldn't

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Speaker 1: beat you know, the Steelers or a team like hell,

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Speaker 1: the Texans with Brian Hoyer. Maybe the Texans with Brian

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Speaker 1: Hoyer's the starting quarterback in a playoff game. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: some Patriot fans would be like, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: We own the Steelers. Yeah, I mean Brady. You gotta

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Speaker 1: have Brady. If Brian Hoyer, I know this, I would

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Speaker 1: bet my entire life savings, which isn't that much money.

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Speaker 1: But they could not one hundred percent everything I own, condo, money, car,

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Speaker 1: you name it. That they could not win the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl without Hoyer. And that's what to me made them

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Speaker 1: so or could not win the super Bowl with Hoyer's

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Speaker 1: or starting quarterback. And I said two years ago, and

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Speaker 1: even when they got Jimmy Garoppolo the Niners a being

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Speaker 1: that what made the Patriots so unique is they were

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Speaker 1: the only team in the league who that if their

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Speaker 1: starter got hurt, that they would still be my pick

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Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, Like they would have been

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Speaker 1: my pick if Brady would have gone down based on

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Speaker 1: what I had seen out of Jimmy Garoppolo in those

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Speaker 1: couple of games the year previously that I think they

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Speaker 1: would have won super Bowl or easily could have, you know,

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Speaker 1: last year, if Tom and if they had not traded

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Speaker 1: him and Tom and gotten hurt. But the thing is

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Speaker 1: Tom's forty one, and he looks like he's thirty and

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Speaker 1: TV twelve and avocado ice cream. He doesn't skip a

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Speaker 1: beat Hey John big fan of the podcast. As a

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Speaker 1: Titans fan, what should the Titans do? Mariotta I believe

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Speaker 1: could win. He's just not vocal enough. And then he

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Speaker 1: gets sacked eleven times in a game. That's a lot.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think is the biggest problem in Tennessee. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it starts with Mariota's health. He hasn't been healthy,

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Speaker 1: so then he can't ever get into rhythm. He's in

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Speaker 1: and out, you know, just of the lineup. He's had

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Speaker 1: some weird injuries. They haven't done a great job. Now

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Speaker 1: they've tried, it's just his backfired. I mean, they're best

742
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: offensive weapon in the past the game was Delaney Walker.

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Speaker 1: He got hurt. They drafted Corey Davis really high. He

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Speaker 1: hasn't really become a star. I mean when you take

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Speaker 1: a guy number five overall. I saw it several years

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Speaker 1: ago when the Raiders took a mari fourth, like you

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Speaker 1: expect him to be really good. Ana Marii got crappy

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, But his first two years,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was a really really he's a pro

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Speaker 1: bowler and Corey Davis is not. So that their offensive

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Speaker 1: weapons outside and I think back to Mariota, Like their

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Speaker 1: biggest problem is if Mariota is not like a legit star,

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Speaker 1: that's just an issue when you draft a guy number

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Speaker 1: two overall, he's gotta be really good. It's it's really

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Speaker 1: kind of crazy now looking back how that quarterback class

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Speaker 1: has played out. I mean him and Jamis. It looks

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Speaker 1: like Mariota is gonna be a star. Then it looked

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Speaker 1: like Jamis has kind of gotten it together and Jamison

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Speaker 1: turns out it's just kind of a slap in. Mariota

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Speaker 1: is one of the nicest guys in the NFL. It

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Speaker 1: just turns out he's his talent is a little limited.

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Speaker 1: But I do think their defense is really good. I

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Speaker 1: like their head coach. The floor is highly thought of

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Speaker 1: in NBA or I mean said nbab got the inside

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Speaker 1: the NBA after the Laker game on TV in the background.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL. So, the the offensive system is what

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Speaker 1: Shanahan McVeigh old school, the Jay Gruden runs a little

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Speaker 1: bit what John does. So you know, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: on Mariota. I mean, he's got you drafted number two overall,

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Speaker 1: he's gotta be Like right now, I couldn't give marioda

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Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars. You know, I know that I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he's asking for a hundred million dollars. But

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Speaker 1: you know, usually when we think quarterbacks, we just think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get paid humongous money. I don't look at

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Speaker 1: Mariota like a max quarterback right now. Okay, Hey, John,

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Speaker 1: started listening to your podcast three and Out a few

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00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I've enjoyed, appreciate it. Thanks, blah blah blah. Okay. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if Jason Garrett gets can this year, could a replacement

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Speaker 1: for him that would fit Jerry Jones needs and keep

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the spotlight potentially be Less Miles? These

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Speaker 1: are the type questions I love. Uh. I'm an L

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Speaker 1: s U fan through and through, and remember what Less

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Speaker 1: brought to the table. Of course, he would need a

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Speaker 1: good o C big time. I thought about this yesterday

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Speaker 1: and just thought on it and it made sense. Am

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Speaker 1: I crazy? Or could that ever work? I'd have to

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Speaker 1: google less miles career. I'm pretty sure he's never coached

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's obviously a coach at Oklahoma State

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Speaker 1: and then went from there to L s U won

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Speaker 1: a national championship, produced so many pros. I I do

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Speaker 1: think he would be the type coach. Again, he would

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Speaker 1: be very, very dependent on a coaching staff. You know.

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Speaker 1: Now Jerry would give him an unlimited money to get

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Speaker 1: a top DC. Hell, they could just keep marion Elli

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Speaker 1: and the defensive coaching staff there. He could go hire

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Speaker 1: a big time offensive coordinator, you know, like a McVeigh

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Speaker 1: type of Kyle Shanahan type. I mean, that's that's kind

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Speaker 1: of lazy, isn't it just to be like a McVeigh type,

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Speaker 1: Like they're just like growing on trees. But you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, like an up and coming young OC

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Speaker 1: to go with him, someone that has a modern day

802
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Speaker 1: you know, concepts and ideas when it comes to football.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's nuts. The problem would be if

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Speaker 1: you're Jerry. And this is why ultimately I don't think

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Speaker 1: Jason's gonna get canned. Is because when you're what's Jerry

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Speaker 1: sent eighty years old? Seventy between seventy and eighty, I

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Speaker 1: have to look up his exact age. He doesn't have

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Speaker 1: that many years on left on the earth, like is listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be morbid or anything, but as

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones living ten more years that's a pretty big risk. Now.

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Speaker 1: Jerry is a risk taker. I know Coward always talks

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Speaker 1: about that, and he's done. He's done a lot of

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Speaker 1: risky moves in the past. But I don't think in

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Speaker 1: two thousand, you know, would be nineteen, at Jerry's age,

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Speaker 1: he can afford to take a swing. Though I do

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Speaker 1: agree with you that it's not like that nuts and

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Speaker 1: it probably wouldn't if he hired the right coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: Craziest sounds it wouldn't be that different, probably than Jason Garrett.

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Speaker 1: The problem less as big as issue would be, is

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Speaker 1: this is his lack of knowledge of the league. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think people quite understand that that transition you make,

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Speaker 1: like for a college coach to go to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You know, like Bill Belichick's been in the league for

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Speaker 1: forty five years. He knows every player in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: literally every single one, their strengths, weaknesses, what college they're from.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid has been a head coach in this league

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Speaker 1: for twenty years. Tom Coughlin has been coaching this league

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Speaker 1: for forty five years. Forty years, however long Coughlin actually

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Speaker 1: was in college a little bit, so maybe thirty years.

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Speaker 1: Like they know every player, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, these

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Speaker 1: guys have been coaching in the league for ten years.

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Speaker 1: The majority of players in the league, they know they

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Speaker 1: have experienced coaching against. Pete Carroll has now been in

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Speaker 1: the league for like ten years, and then he was

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Speaker 1: recruiting all the top guys, so you're just background of

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Speaker 1: the guys. Like Less has now been out of college

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Not I know he's still

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Speaker 1: watches it and does stuff on television, but that transition

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Speaker 1: is pretty hard. Like that was a problem for Chip Kelly,

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Speaker 1: just his true knowledge on all the personnel. And I

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Speaker 1: think ultimately if Jerry is gonna could change, you never know,

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Speaker 1: because he does have just some gambling instincts. He's not

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Speaker 1: afraid to roll the dice. But I think he would

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Speaker 1: kind of get crushed for that move, and I do

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Speaker 1: think the perception of it would matter. Again, I think

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Speaker 1: it's like less than twenty five percent chance that Jason

847
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Speaker 1: gets fired, But if he did, I think he would

848
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: hire an NFL guy. He would try to limit his

849
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: limited his risk, you know, because his only goal at

850
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: his age now he's made more money than god. I know,

851
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: he still likes making deals, but is everyone says they

852
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: want to win the super Bowl. The key in the

853
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: NFL has just make the playoffs. If you have a

854
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: playoff team, I mean, should anything can happen it just

855
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: to win a game or two and then boom you're

856
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. That's the key. Just can you

857
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. That's why Andy Reid is so valuable.

858
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: He's made the playoffs like fifteen times out of his

859
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: twenty year career. You know, Belichick is such an outlier,

860
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: a guy that wins all these super Bowls. What makes

861
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: Tom Tom Mike Tomlins so great is he's always in

862
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: the playoff. Just make the playoffs and your owner is

863
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty happy. Hell, look at Marvin Lewis and

864
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: that's Jason Garrett's big knock. Like, is the guy a

865
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: playoff coach? Can he get us consistently to the playoffs?

866
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: He made it a couple of times, but can't he

867
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: get there at less miles? The more I think about it,

868
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: Like would he get the Cowboys to the playoffs? I

869
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: think he can make them competitive, But that's what they

870
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: need a coach that has playoff upside. So whether that's

871
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: a young guy like John D. Filippo or Jim Bob Cooter,

872
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: whether that be like the Ravens missed the playoffs and

873
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: John Harbob becomes available something like that, But I I'd

874
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: be shocked. I've thought about this a lot, because a

875
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: lot of you guys asked me about it, clearly a

876
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: lot of cowboy fans. I I first off, again, I

877
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: don't think Jason Garrett's going anywhere, but if he does,

878
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: I I think Jerry would make a pretty conventional higher,

879
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: you know, higher the top o c or hire a

880
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: retread in the sense of a big name retread, because

881
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, if the Steelers were to miss the playoffs

882
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: or the Ravens were to miss the playoffs, I think

883
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: one of those two coaches probably be available. So if not,

884
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: love all these up and coming OCAs and John D.

885
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: Filippo's my guy. But if I was an owner, especially

886
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: Jerry like, it would be hard to pass up on

887
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: Tomlin or John Harbaugh if they become became, you know,

888
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: on the open market, and you're telling me those guys

889
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: are gonna pass up the cowboy job. Uh, John, Thanks

890
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: for always keeping it real, no problem. I've noticed the

891
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: first round selections are usually defensive players. And in a

892
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: recent article on the Athletic where they created a top

893
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: thirty two draft board, twenty four of the thirty two

894
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: players were listed as the defensive players. Seventeen of the

895
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: thirty two or defensive lineman. Why is that exactly? Is

896
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: that because it's becoming more challenging to find talent on

897
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. I just think it's

898
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: this individual class. It's kind of weird. In a spread offense,

899
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: and college has been so spread the last four or

900
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: five years, there haven't been that many elite wide receiver prospects,

901
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: Like where are the Julio Jones? Where are the A. J. Greens?

902
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: Where are the Odell Beckhams. It's kind of in a

903
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: missing piece the last couple of years. There haven't been

904
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: that many sweet college wide receiver prospects the last two years.

905
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: There's also from what I heard talking to a buddy

906
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: in the league, there's it's not a great running back crop.

907
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: And then clearly look at the quarterbacks. Five quarterbacks went

908
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: last year in the first round, the previous year three,

909
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: so you just don't keep up that pace. I mean,

910
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: the college doesn't pump out that many quarterbacks. You're gonna

911
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: take a step back there. The offensive lineman the last

912
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: couple of years have been hit or miss. The past

913
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: rushing class is excellent. Uh that that people around the

914
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: league have known that now for a couple of years.

915
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: Of all the freshmen two years ago, the highly recruited guys,

916
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of times the top recruits. You know,

917
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: in a given year, a lot of them are gonna

918
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: be defensive players, blue chip defensive lineman, blue chip corners,

919
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: blue chip linebackers, but a lot of them don't become

920
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: great players. It just happened that all these guys at Michigan, uh,

921
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: the Gary kid, the dudes Alabama, the dudes at Clemson,

922
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: like those guys were blue chip guys and then they

923
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 1: became star players all over Houston. You know, it's just

924
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: all these top recruits maintain their startom. There was like

925
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: three or four Clownees. I'm not saying these guys will

926
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: be as good as Clowney in the pros, but they

927
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: were heralded like that level and then they just dominated

928
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: all through their college career. So it's just kind of

929
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: worked out that way. And I don't I think it's

930
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: somewhat cyclical. I think it's a little random, you know,

931
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me. Next year there'll be several guys.

932
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: I know, the wide receiver people keep texting me about Perdue,

933
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: the dude at Colorado is awesome. They're gonna be several calls.

934
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean that. I don't know what year. I have

935
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: to check out Bama's roster, but they got a couple

936
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: of wide receivers. Every time I watched their game, they're

937
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: just hauling ass all over the place, like their version

938
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: of Odell Beckham in Jarvis Landry. So I think again

939
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: cyclical bounces back. Next year. We could have multiple offensive lineman,

940
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: five wide receivers, and a couple of running backs, you know,

941
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: and a couple of tight ends go in the first round.

942
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: I I don't think, uh, there's any necessarily rhyme or

943
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: reason to it. It just kind of changes year in

944
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: year out. But I do think the impact of all

945
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. And if you look two years ago, Mahomes

946
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: came out early, Troubinsky came out early, and Watson was

947
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: a senior. So two of the three guys came out early.

948
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: Last year Baker senior, Rosen Donald early entries, Josh Allen

949
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: early entry, Lamar Jackson early entry, So you just get

950
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys leaving early. You know, sometimes quarterback

951
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: is a unique position where guys return. You know, guys

952
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: stay all three or four you know, four years, five years.

953
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: It's not I mean Baker Mayfield went to school for

954
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: five years. You know, he used up all of his eligibility.

955
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: Uh okay, what percentage of the New York Giants offensive

956
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: woes are squarely on the shoulders of Eli Manning? Can

957
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: he still perform given his given adequate protection without like

958
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: really really studying and charting the tape, I'd say about

959
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: sixty seven deep percenta is on Eli and then the

960
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: rest is on the offensive line. I do think when

961
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: you watch the NFL, this notion that their offensive line

962
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: stinks is fair. But a lot of offensive lines aren't

963
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: that good. You either have to get rid of the

964
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: football quickly or be able to move. Like I'm watching

965
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: the game to night, Deshaun Watson is moving around. There's

966
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: not you know, Anthony Moono's and Larry Allen aren't exactly

967
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: blocking for him. But if you can just keep plays

968
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: alive with your legs. Think of a lot of the

969
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks in this league. You don't have to be

970
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: you know, Lamar Jackson as an athlete, but if you're

971
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, you know, Josh Allen, Carson Wentz, Josh Allen's

972
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: a bad example because he stinks. Russell Wilson, Jimmy Garoppolo,

973
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: you know Mr Biski Dak These guys can all move.

974
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: Hell Kirk Cousins is not a stiff. You know, you

975
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: have to be able to move a little bit. Most

976
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: guys blocking for you are going to be flawed. So

977
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: I think the biggest problem is just in two thousand

978
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: and eighteen, Eli's lack of mobilities a statue back there,

979
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: and he's always been kind of a hit or miss quarterback,

980
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: even in his prime. I mean, let's call it what

981
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: it is. The second Super Bowl, I was working in

982
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: the NFC East, I mean I saw him twice a

983
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: year and saw him on cross tape and just was

984
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: around the NFC East like he was a good player

985
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 1: and would have really good moments. He just got really

986
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: hot there at the end of the season. He he

987
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: was never like picking teams apart from sixteen weeks, like

988
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: he's Philip Rivers or you know, Drew Brees. That's not

989
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: his deal. Now that that's even gotten worse, and he's

990
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: less mobile than he's ever been, and he's never been

991
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: really able to move. He's just kind of a sitting

992
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: duck back there, which is kind of crazy because if

993
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: you would have given him some of these weapons, like

994
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: se Kwan Barkley and Odell Beckham on some of their

995
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: better teams, I think out nasty. I mean to imagine

996
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: if you put Odell Beckham on like one of those

997
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: championship teams instead of going nine and seven, they're probably

998
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve win team and just really dynamic. Because

999
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: the one thing Eli used to do really well is

1000
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: throw a great deep ball. You saw that a couple

1001
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: of times in the Super Bowls and just just play

1002
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: off run. I mean, he has a strong arm. I've

1003
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: always been an Eli guy. Uh, it's sad to watch

1004
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: him kind of go out like this. But let's call

1005
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: it what it is. That the Mannings him and his

1006
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: brother and obviously Eliza, you know, not even half the

1007
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: player of his brother. And that's not a shot at Eli.

1008
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: It's more of a compliment to Peyton. But both the

1009
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Mannings have not exactly left the game gracefully. You know,

1010
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: It's been pretty ugly. They've kind of had to be

1011
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: dragged off the field. Now, Peyton was dragged to a

1012
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but listen, I had a front row seat

1013
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: for that. I watched that. I went to the Super Bowl,

1014
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: and I also watched their team play against the Raiders

1015
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: earlier in the season. It wasn't because of Peyton, I

1016
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: promise you that and I and I'm a Peyton manning guy,

1017
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: but it's been an ugly divorced for both of them.

1018
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: From the sport. Hey John Matt from Australia, I was

1019
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,479
Speaker 1: wondering as the Chiefs defenses defense getting unfairly criticized because

1020
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: they always playing prevent d because yeah, good point, since

1021
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: the offense is scoring so early and often. The same

1022
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: issue happened with the Falcons in two thousand sixteen. Uh,

1023
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: maybe maybe a little. I actually think they've played better.

1024
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: I know sore Andson's coming back this week. I think

1025
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: d Ford has looked good when he's just been able

1026
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: to tee off. Eventually, if Justin Houston get back on

1027
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: the field, and you know, keep our fingers crosses because

1028
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: he's one of the higher character guys in the league.

1029
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: Eric Berry could ever come back where I think they're

1030
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: unfairly criticized and we talk about them in the wrong

1031
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: vein is that you don't need the eighty five Bears

1032
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 1: defense to win anymore. The rules have just dramatically changed.

1033
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: Now this year is gonna be a good litmus test

1034
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs how much defense matters. But I don't

1035
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: think you definitely don't need This ain't ten years ago,

1036
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, it definitely is not twenty years ago in

1037
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: the nineties when you need really good defenses or in

1038
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: the history of football. I I do think potentially, and

1039
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out this year because there's the I

1040
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: think the Rams defense has had been overrated. I'm not

1041
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: putting the Chiefs in that same level, but if the

1042
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: Chiefs can make a on with their defense. The Patriots

1043
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: defense has never been good and they've always kind of overcome.

1044
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: The Steelers defense is not great. There's gonna be a

1045
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: lot of potential playoff teams that have very, very shoddy defenses.

1046
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: But I'm interested to watch the Chiefs. And again, someone

1047
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: asked me the other day and I responded to him

1048
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I think a successful chief season would be

1049
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: winning the division and just winning a playoff game. So

1050
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: for them because they're gonna have a first round by

1051
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: more than likely. If you host a home playoff game

1052
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: and you play the Chargers, you play the Texans, you

1053
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: play the Bangles, you play whoever, and you get a win,

1054
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: which would be their first win. I think since like Montana,

1055
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: and then you lose to the Patriots or lose to

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Speaker 1: whoever in the a f C Championship game, I think

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Speaker 1: that would be a successful season when your quarterbacks twenty

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Speaker 1: two years old. Now, it's not gonna be easy in

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Speaker 1: the moment, it would be ugly and people would freak.

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Speaker 1: But I I think that's already been I mean a

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Speaker 1: raving success. I mean, to me, one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: question marks in the league is like, what would Mahomes

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Speaker 1: look like? Well, the jury's in. Mahomes is sweet, you

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Speaker 1: know the Chiefs. The Chiefs hit a home run on that.

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Speaker 1: But to me, they don't have to win the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl to like validate this move. It's already been a

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Speaker 1: success they make in the playoffs. But I do think

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Speaker 1: you know, Andy needs a playoff win, but Mahomes doesn't necessarily,

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Speaker 1: But it'd be pretty devastating if you won twelve their

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Speaker 1: team games and lost. But I I feel pretty confident

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Speaker 1: with this team, if they can stay healthy their core

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Speaker 1: guys on offense, that they could win a home playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening. Um Every Tuesday. We're going every Friday.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep him coming. Three and Out Podcast John

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Speaker 1: Middlecock Enjoy the weekend, tell Us