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Speaker 1: Too Much Information is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, and welcome the Too Much Information, the show

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Speaker 2: that brings you the secret histories and little known facts

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Speaker 2: behind your favorite music, movies, TV shows, and more. And

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Speaker 2: today we're gonna be delving into the always mysterious and

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Speaker 2: more category. Who are we Well, we are your deans

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Speaker 2: of dessert. You're governors of glucose, your sugar plums, sweethearts,

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Speaker 2: serving up bond bonds of banality alongside our bond monts. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we're like chocoholics, but for trivia and also chocolate.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jordan run Tug. I hate you. It's

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Speaker 1: an onion thing. It was the onion reference. Just oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm Alex Heigel.

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Speaker 2: And you know, folks, as the Wise Man once said,

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Speaker 2: life is like a box of chocolates, and so is

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 1: You truly never know what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 2: Today we are going deep into one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: topics of all time, candy, with all the sprawl that

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Speaker 2: that implies.

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Speaker 1: You get comfortable. Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this about me, folks,

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Speaker 2: but I have the biggest sweet tooth of all time.

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Speaker 2: I have the dietary habits of an elf setting that

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Speaker 2: line out to perhaps our most stylish friend of the Pods, Siggy,

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Speaker 2: who introduced me to that line. I don't discriminate when

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Speaker 2: it comes to my love of candy, and we'll be

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Speaker 2: taking a similar approach on this episode, which is just

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Speaker 2: a massive scattershot look at all types and brands. I

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Speaker 2: have a confession to make. The original idea was to

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Speaker 2: have this episode out in time for Halloween as a

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Speaker 2: trick or treat special, but as some of you may

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Speaker 2: have noticed, things were a little slow going for a while,

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Speaker 2: and that was my fault and I'm sorry my friends.

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Speaker 2: That iHeart had me working on some other short term

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Speaker 2: projects that sort of took over, including one, if I may,

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Speaker 2: a little plug called Stones Touring Party, which is a

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Speaker 2: deep dive into the Rolling Stones and they're epic nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy two North American Tour, which is widely regarded as

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Speaker 2: the first tour of the modern rock era. It's the

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Speaker 2: tour that taught multiple generations how to party like a

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Speaker 2: rock star. But that show is now done and we

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Speaker 2: are back to our regularly scheduled program here, which I'm

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Speaker 2: so happy about. And now we're gonna banje on candy

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Speaker 2: stories which I am just beside myself about. I'm so excited, Higel,

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Speaker 2: I'm about to ask you one of my very best

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Speaker 2: first date questions. Tell me about your favorite candies. I've

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna clarify, you know, Yeah, I mean as much

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Speaker 3: as I love Halloween, like, I kind of grew out

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Speaker 3: of having a sweet tooth like at one point, obviously,

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Speaker 3: like trick or treat is a big thing, but like

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Speaker 3: I don't, I just don't really reach for candy as

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Speaker 3: much as I reach for like, you know, I lean

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Speaker 3: more towards the savory side of the trash food park rounds.

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Speaker 3: It's been getting a lot of Pennsylvania. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I've been getting a lot of well we're talking Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big sour dough pretzel.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, just carve up the roof of my mouth like

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Speaker 3: a cluster bomb and you know, uh, just suck all

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Speaker 3: Put on some steelers. Head down town. Uh, I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna do any more Pennsylvania accents. Go down to the creek. Now,

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Speaker 3: I can't. I haven't gotten to Pittsburgh one. That's gonna

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Speaker 3: shame my dad.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be upset about that. Yeah, I did I

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Speaker 1: say funions already.

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Speaker 3: I've been eating a lot of fun I've.

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Speaker 1: Never had a fun in my life.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm just so much more of a

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Speaker 3: chips And because it's like the repetitive motion thing where

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Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, like two twix's.

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Speaker 3: Talking about your multi part candy experiences, your skittles and

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Speaker 1: I did, see, I respected the candy too much to

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Speaker 3: And then did you have state fairs? What's a Boston

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Speaker 3: state fair? Is that just like like racism in baseball.

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Speaker 2: And they do things like they have pigs that race.

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Speaker 1: I never had that candy apples. That was more of

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Speaker 3: Sour Skittles are really good. You know what it might

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know. I'm not as it's not

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: So how long did you go trick or treating for?

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Speaker 2: I'm asking people this a lot lately. Or what age

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Speaker 3: It's always just you know, being weird.

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Speaker 2: My friend Chris Fleming is a brilliant comedian. Definitely look

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Speaker 2: him up if you have any As a special on

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Speaker 2: Peacock now called Hell, he just had a whole bit

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Speaker 2: about his neighbor in California. The only Halloween decoration they

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's on Instagram. Definitely check that out.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember people decorating for Halloween as a kid.

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Speaker 2: But now I can go to CVS and buy my

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Speaker 3: Exactly. There you go. That's the true journey to adulthood.

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Speaker 2: Well, folks, from the candy that Frank Sinatra was buried with,

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Speaker 2: the iconic candy bar that nearly destroyed a family, to

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Speaker 2: the time Skittles spent millions of dollars on an advertisement

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Speaker 2: that only one person ever got to see, to the

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Speaker 2: wanton acts of animal cruelty at the heart of a

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Speaker 2: gummy classic. Here is everything you didn't know about candy.

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Speaker 1: You know what I like?

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Speaker 3: Is it Sweetwater sends me candy with my petals, thought

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Speaker 3: I buy, yeah, they put in but it's like old

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Speaker 3: tiny candy. It's like bidd o honey. I'd like biddo honey, honey.

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Speaker 2: Destroy your feelings, But yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: Honey, how do you feel about Mary Jane's, which are there?

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Speaker 3: I have a Dad's root beer in right now?

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Speaker 1: Do you really it's in honor of this episode?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got a pedal. Oh, I've just been eating

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Speaker 3: a candy? What is a mary Jane? How does that

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Speaker 1: A bit of honey?

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Speaker 2: Is honey and Mary Jane's I think has peanut butter

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 2: Well, while we're on the topic of old timey candy,

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Speaker 2: we got to start with kind of the granddaddy candy. Really,

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Speaker 2: if you're thinking about it, it's also so heroine. It's

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Speaker 2: also the worst candy, so it could only go up

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Speaker 2: from here. We're talking about candy corn, arguably the most

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Speaker 2: divisive candy on this list. That you pro are anti

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Speaker 2: candy corn.

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Speaker 3: I want to ship you so much candy corn. Really,

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Speaker 3: it's like one of the only candies I don't like.

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Speaker 1: We got to talk about tutsi rolls.

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Speaker 2: The I always thought of them as the stems and

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the fruit flavored ones, although not of alla,

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Speaker 1: Was like a roll. He was like, you're rolls. I

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Speaker 3: The old timey nicknames were lucky. It's not racial.

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Speaker 3: Prior to inventing the Tutsie roll, Leo Hirschfeld also invented

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Speaker 3: So it's essentially a precursor to jello, which makes mister

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing about Tootsie rolls, other than the fact

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Speaker 1: Worse to live.

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Speaker 1: I got a bro bromangelon update. Here wait, I have.

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Speaker 2: Something in my ear right now, I'm getting a bromancholon update.

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Speaker 2: The origin of the name is unknown. It was claimed

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Speaker 2: In some advertisements, the name was broken up as bro

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Speaker 3: Romangel on biblically accurate dessert, be not afraid. The Tutsi

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Speaker 2: Because they look like they're in the Korean War and

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Speaker 2: they looked like bullets Jordan, let me finish.

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Speaker 3: To their surprise, when the air drop arrived, it was

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Speaker 3: But some enterprising soldier who honestly deserves a Congressional Medal

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Speaker 3: According to Ripley's Believe it or not anyway.

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Speaker 3: Ah wow, but nobody's ever used one to kill someone.

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Speaker 1: Well there are, okay, there's two kinds of tutsi rolls.

436
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 2: There's the little bite sized ones that are like, you know,

437
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 2: an inch or whatever, and aren't there like long stick

438
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: like almost like jerky ones too. Yeah yeah, Now I'm confused, Like,

439
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: which is what we're talking about here? I guess if

440
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: they were individually wrapped as probably the tiny ones.

441
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 3: Um wow, man, Sometimes I really do love this country.

442
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: What did you just look up? Has anyone killed anyone

443
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: with tutsie rolls? Uh No?

444
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: But I did just find a guy who uh loaded

445
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 3: on YouTube who loaded a tutsi roll into a shotgun

446
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 3: shell cool and is now using it to punch holes

447
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: in what appears to be Oh, it's a plank of wood.

448
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: It will at least go through a plank of wood.

449
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 3: That doesn't surprise me. And a beer can. What else

450
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 3: is he shooting? Is it intact the Tootsie roll? No,

451
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 3: does not survive the impact. But holy man, he did

452
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 3: a number on that Miller like can.

453
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: Wow? Um? God bless America. Ah.

454
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 3: There are numerous famous fans of tutsi rolls discussing, though

455
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: they may be. According to tutsi roll industry's big wig

456
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: Ellen Gordon, Jackie Kennedy Onasis used to like to keep

457
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: a bowl full of the candies around the office at

458
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: Double Day Publishing House in New York City because they

459
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 3: served as a good icebreaker.

460
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?

461
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: I don't give a about anything anymore?

462
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: Uh? What that is a weird foible? Man? Is it's

463
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: like the Reagan thing or the Nixon thing? Jelly beans? Yeah?

464
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: I think he just jelly beans? Okay?

465
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 3: Well, as we mentioned in the Thriller episode, Jackie Kennedy

466
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 3: Onasis was editor of Michael Jackson's autobiography Moonwalker, which means

467
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 3: it's not a real stretch to imagine that he might

468
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 3: have had some of her Tutsie roll Frank Sinatra also

469
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 3: insisted on Tootsie Rolls as part of his backstage rider,

470
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 3: which also included a color TV, various liquors, and an

471
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: assortment of sandwiches. In fact, he loved the candy so

472
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: much he was allegedly buried with a few Tutsi rolls

473
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 3: tossed into his coffin, along with a few other choice effects,

474
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 3: including cigarettes, a lighter, and a bottle of Jack Daniels.

475
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: Who would you like to be buried with you? It

476
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter which it was Dita's first, It's gonna say

477
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: the company is.

478
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 3: The company that produces Totsy Rolls is shrouded in secrecy.

479
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: According to The Wall Street Journal, They're infamous for turning

480
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: down press inquiries. It also neglects to hold quarterly earnings

481
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 3: calls per Slate. The company's succession plan became the topic

482
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: of news headlines when then CEO Melvin Gordon died in

483
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen at the age of ninety five. Eyewitnesses to

484
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: his death reported that his eyes had gone completely black.

485
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: He was levitating three feet above the ground, speaking in

486
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: a language that seemed to them older than time.

487
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 1: Itself.

488
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: Sorry what Control of the company went to his wife, Ellen,

489
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: who told Joel Glenn Brenner for his book Emperors of

490
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 3: Chocolate Inside the Secret World of Hershey and Mars, we

491
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 3: want Tutsi to remain independent. Hopefully our children or the

492
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: employees working in the company will be able to run

493
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: it someday. The Tutsi Rolls Corporation has not forgotten the

494
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 3: old gods. According to Bloomberg, investors think Gordon may eventually

495
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 3: sell the company. The Wall Street Journal noted that shareholders

496
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: are the only ones who are privy to the succession plan,

497
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: and there has been no sign that any of Gordon's

498
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: four daughters will take over. Gordon and her children combined

499
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: own more than sixty percent of the company. According to Forbes,

500
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: what if suddenly they like break down the Tutsi role

501
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: factory or like explodes or something, and it's revealed that

502
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: they have some kind of hideous stigy and Eldridge Lovecraftian

503
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 3: demon chained up in the basement that just poops these

504
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 3: things out like a like a queen bee.

505
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: And it's just been.

506
00:26:55,200 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 3: Cover Yeah, al yeah, exactly, it's Oh, they eat it

507
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: each CEO. That's the last act of any Tutsi roll ceo.

508
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 3: They strip naked, they paint sigils on themselves, and then

509
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: they go down and are ritualistically devoured by the Tutsi beast.

510
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: Fifteen years of plentiful Tutsi roll production, the harvest hard.

511
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: The Tutsi must roll sixty four million Tutsi rolls get made.

512
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 3: That's more than forty four thousand, four hundred and forty

513
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: per minute, seven hundred and forty per second come out

514
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: of the Tutsi monsters sphincter.

515
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: That is incredible. He cut into like the botto thing.

516
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: It's like every time I snap my fingers, yeah, thousands.

517
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: Out, Stop snapping your fingers, Stop bleeding, snap, stop bleeding clapping.

518
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: What is the origin of that? But it was first

519
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: of all, it was Bona right, And was that supposed

520
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: to you've asked me this before. I don't know, I

521
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 3: don't care. Tell me about the Tutsi roll pop, which

522
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: as I hate tutsy rolls, I love tootsy pops. My

523
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: hatred of tutsy rolls. It's a disgusting candy. It's a lollipop.

524
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: And then you have the Tutsi roll at the center.

525
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: I' mean the tuttsy roll at the center. I could

526
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: take leave.

527
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 2: But oh the cherry tootsy pops great, what are you

528
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: talking about? Well, it's your favorite lollipop.

529
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 3: I don't have one because I'm not six. You like lollipops,

530
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: don't you? Ring pops, ring pop and son of a bitch?

531
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: I like chupa choops? Actually, oh actually I do like

532
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: ring pops. Yeah, goops are good. Oh that that's like fancy.

533
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 3: It's an import yeah at m point. Yeah.

534
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: Wow see you can't just find those anywhere you see that.

535
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: Wow. I I you know, I didn't expect that of you.

536
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: I thought you were like a like a charms blow

537
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: pop kind of guy. You're more of a man of

538
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: the people. The chupa chips I did not expect.

539
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: Well.

540
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: I love totsy Pops, which were first introduced in nineteen

541
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: thirty one. It was invented by Luke Weiss Graham, who

542
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: was an employee at the then named Sweet Company of America,

543
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: which produced Tutsi roll, and he and his colleagues were

544
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: asked to pitch ideas for a new candy at a meeting,

545
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: and the idea came to Wis Graham because he had

546
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: tasted his daughter's lollipop while chewing a chocolate tutsie roll

547
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: at the same time. He thought this flavor combo went

548
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: well together. Uh. Linguistic fun fact, the word lolly in

549
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: lollipop derives from the Old English dialect term for the tongue.

550
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: Did you know that? Gross?

551
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

552
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: Kind of lollapalooza isn't lollapalooza originally refers to a lollipop, right,

553
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: It's like the comically large, old timey spiral lollipop that

554
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: like your little uh, you know, little Lloyd Eloy would

555
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: have you know, enjoying on his way to kick the

556
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: kick the pores.

557
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: I didn't that. I don't know. I've never heard that. Yeah, really,

558
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: I believe So why did they call it that?

559
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: Because Perry Ferrell was on god knows how many dry uggs?

560
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, eh, suppose I was incorrect? Wow? Where did

561
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: I get that from? What does it mean? Yeah?

562
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: Strike all that anyway, Lollapalooza apparently means an archaic word

563
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: meaning extraordinarily impressive, and he heard it in a Three

564
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: Stooges short.

565
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing that you think about when you

566
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: think of a tutsi pop is that professorial Owl in

567
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: the animated ad. That commercial was designed in nineteen sixty

568
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: eight by the Detroit based Donner Ad Company in an

569
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: effort to get people to eat Tutsi pops like literally

570
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: eat them. Premise being if people bite the Tutsi pops

571
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: that means it would last a lot shorter than they

572
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: would they would have to buy more. This gave birth

573
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: to the age old advertising question how many licks does

574
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: it take to get to the center of a Tutsi pop?

575
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: Oh?

576
00:30:53,600 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: On, it's two. That's the voice of Tigger from Winnie

577
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: the Pooh, Paul Winchell. Huh yeah.

578
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: One big fan of mister Owl from those ads is

579
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: Pete Davidson. He is a massive tattoo of the tootsy

580
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: pop owl on his back.

581
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: Did you know that that guy throws darts at a

582
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: book of idiot things? Wow, I'm suffering today. I'm off

583
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: my game. See that's how he picks his tattoos from

584
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: the Dictionary of Stupid. Opens a page and my name's

585
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: right next to it. Cut all this. I'm off my game, stupid.

586
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: That's good that the first part was good, although I

587
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: guess he's getting them all removed now because now that

588
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: he's getting into you know, inverted Komma's serious acting. It

589
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: takes roughly three hours to cover up his tattoos with makeup,

590
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: so I guess he's decided that. So no word on

591
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: whether or not the Tootsy Pop owl remains on his

592
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: back more than eleven. When it comes to answering that

593
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: in from his question, the mysterious Tutsi Pop manufacturers aren't

594
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: any help. According to the company's website, the real answer

595
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: to how many licks does it take to get to

596
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: the center of a Totsy Pop quote depends on a

597
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: variety of factors such as the size of your mouth,

598
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: the amount of saliva.

599
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: Et cetera. What could the et cetera be heat? Yeah,

600
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: this is also potentially r rated.

601
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: The Toutsy Pop website also offers a PDF for a

602
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: clean stick certificate on their website.

603
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: I got one of those ones. Clean stick certificate. Yeah,

604
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: really had to go to the doctor.

605
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: Many studies have attempted to find the exact answer of

606
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: how many licks it takes using volunteers and.

607
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: Even and even what Jordan.

608
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: I can't there's some things even I am unable to say,

609
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: customized licking machines I go but you asked, Yeah, those things, Yeah, yeah,

610
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: I know.

611
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: You know, uh, the results.

612
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: They have one of those at the Tutsi roll factory

613
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: to to moisten the Tutsi beasts hide.

614
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: That's that's one of the boys.

615
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: You have to clean them off, you know, when they're

616
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: when they're when the new Tutsi beast is born from

617
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: the corpse of the old one. You have to clean

618
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: them off like a mother cat does to the kittens.

619
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: So that's where the customized licking machines come in there,

620
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: maybe with cow tongs.

621
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: I can't tell if that last part serious or not.

622
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's basically you just take a cow tongue and

623
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: you stick it on a like on a possible stick, yeah,

624
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: like a robot arm, you know. And then they you know,

625
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 3: because this is many miles underground, because they can't let

626
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: it get too close to the surface or else it

627
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: tastes freedom. Yeah, and then the it's remote controlled. Obviously

628
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 3: this is OSHA has rules about how close you can

629
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: get the Tutsi beast, so you know, your higher level

630
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: executives are rotated in to pilot the customized licking machines

631
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: to clean off the new Tutsi beast. It does cause

632
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: a bit of a hiccup in production. You know, well, no,

633
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: I actually it's not about Osha. They go that far

634
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 3: underground because it's like going out in the international water.

635
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 3: So the only company that actually goes so far deep

636
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 3: underground that it no longer.

637
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 2: Technically counts as the United States. It's actually part of

638
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: the Earth's mantle.

639
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 3: That's where Jimmy hoff is buried. They fed Jimmy Hoffa

640
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: to the Tutsi beast. It was a good five year

641
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: period where you could get a little bit of Hofa

642
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 3: in every Tutsi role.

643
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: Amelia Earhart, Anastasia.

644
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: It's about a thousand licks. Okay, that's stiped. I don't

645
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: know how to cut around that. So yeah, it's somewhere

646
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: between four hundred and a thousand licks to get the

647
00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: set of a Tutsi pop. Sure, now, okay, this actually

648
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: I am very excited about this. So if you're like me,

649
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: which I pray to God you're not, you still get

650
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 2: excited when you have a Tutsi pop. I'm thirty five

651
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: years old, and you unwrap it and you look at

652
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 2: the wrapper and you see a Native American, a First

653
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: Nation individual shooting a bow and arrow at a star

654
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: because for generations it's been ingrained in our minds that

655
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: if you get a Tutsi Pop wrapper with a star

656
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: on it, you bring that rapper to the store, a

657
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: corner store in my mind, not like a CVS, and

658
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 2: you get a freebe Tutsi Pop. That's like the thing

659
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: that was just I don't even know where I heard that.

660
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: It's just we're all born with it. Now, this is

661
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: apparently a lie and that rapper is worthless. No one

662
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: knows how this rumor got started, but Tutsi Rol Industries

663
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: have never in the history of Tutsi pops honored this.

664
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: On their website, they actually have a section called the

665
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: Legend of the Shooting Star, which gently debunks this legend. Says,

666
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: in fact, the Shooting Star appears on one in every

667
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: four to six pop wrappers, just as frequently as the

668
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: other images appear. However, we do believe the star is

669
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: a sign of good luck to come and a good

670
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: harvest for the Tutsi beast.

671
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 3: And a clean death for its next meal.

672
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: Okay, well, now we're moving on to candy bars and

673
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 2: we're going to start with the Milky Way. The Milky

674
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: Way was the first major success for Frank Mars of

675
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: Mars Incorporated, and it would eventually tear his family apart.

676
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: But more on this in a moment. The creation of

677
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: the Milky Way.

678
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: Can be linked to the popularity of milkshakes, specifically malted milk.

679
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 2: In the late eighteen hundreds, milk farming was scaling up,

680
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: but the pasteurization regulations hadn't yet passed in most states,

681
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: so it is believe that milk wasn't safe to drink,

682
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: so malted milk tables were marketed as a good substitute

683
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: for your health, especially for babies, and the popularity of

684
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: malted milk rose in the eighteen eighties do in large

685
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: part to the temperance movement, so malted milk, specifically chocolate

686
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: malted milk became a hit at soda fountains across the country,

687
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: and before going hard for the whole celestial thing, milky

688
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: Ways candy bars were billed as a double molted milk

689
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: in a candy bar, hence the name Milky Way, so

690
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: it wasn't named after the galaxy at all. Was actually

691
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: named after a very specific famous malted milk drink from

692
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: the nineteen twenties, so the Milky Way was born, as

693
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 2: you might guess, during father son time at a local

694
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: soda fountain. But this story is not as sweet as

695
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: it sounds. These two men were Frank C. Mars, the

696
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: founder of Mars Incorporated, and his son Forrest. Now the

697
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: official version of the story told by the company is

698
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: that father and son developed it together while sharing a

699
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: molt at a soda shop.

700
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: That's very sweet.

701
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: In truth, the pair were not close and would spend

702
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: the remainder of their lives arguing about who is responsible

703
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: for the family fortune. Forrest, the son, was born during

704
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: Frank Mars's failed first marriage, and when his parents split

705
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: when he was sick, he was sent to live with

706
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: his grandparents, and father and son didn't see each other

707
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: for twenty years. In fact, it was apparently not until

708
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: Frank had to bail Forest out of Chicago jail. I'm

709
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: not sure why, so chances are they were not having

710
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,479
Speaker 2: an adorable Norman Rockwell father son moment at a malt

711
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: shop when they dreamed up the Milky Way, and throughout

712
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 2: his life, Forest Mars would claim that even though his

713
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: father had been the one that actually manufactured the Milky

714
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: Way bar, it was his idea and he came up

715
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: with the name himself. They would have a falling out

716
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 2: and Forrest would move to England to try to start

717
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: his own competing confectionery business, and while there he actually

718
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: created the Mars Bar and Malteesers, which is another chocolate

719
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: malt balls, and he quite possibly got the idea for

720
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: Eminem's when he was living in England when he stumbled

721
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: across a British candy called Smarties, which they still have

722
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: over there. It's like the British equivalent of Eminem's. Eventually,

723
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: Forest Mars returned to the US, started Uncle Ben's Rice

724
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: brand in the interim, and then finally took over Mars Incorporated.

725
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: So that guy was definitely racist.

726
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, But we are getting ahead of ourselves here.

727
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: The pair were feuding because the Milky Way Bar was

728
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: a huge hit upon its commercial release in nineteen twenty four.

729
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: Sales of the bar skyrocketed to eight hundred thousand dollars

730
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: in its first year, and that's nineteen twenty four, so

731
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 2: in today dollars that would be well over ten million dollars.

732
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: By nineteen twenty nine, the Milky Way become the most

733
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: popular candy bar in the United States, and this was

734
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: partially because it was also the biggest. Today's milky Way

735
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: bar is just over one point eight ounces, but the

736
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: original milky Way weighed more than three ounces, which.

737
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: Is pretty hefty, pretty deep, prettyep efty.

738
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: As Forrest Mars explained, people would walk up to the

739
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: candy counter and see this flat, little Hershey bar for

740
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: a nickel, and right next to it a giant milky Way.

741
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 2: Guess which one they'd pick. Now, we know that moulten

742
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: milk is not a exactly a universal panacea, but the

743
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: ads for milky Way continued to tout the supposed health

744
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: properties for years. Back in the sixties, Mars ran a

745
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: TV ad that linked milky Way bars the wholesome farm

746
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 2: ingredients like fresh eggs and corn, and the most egregious

747
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: example of this was an ad that depicted a picture

748
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: of milk transforming into a milky Way bar, and the

749
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: FTC felt that this technically constituted false advertising and issued

750
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: a consent order in nineteen seventy basically saying that it

751
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 2: wasn't okay to equate a candy bar with a glass

752
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: of fresh milk. Despite this, Mars kept linking milky Ways

753
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: with milk. There was a nineteen eighty four ad that

754
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: continued to claim that each milky Way has the equivalent

755
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: of a quarter cup of milk.

756
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: Trying to find out who Uncle Ben was. He lives

757
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: in all of us?

758
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: You mean like the model or yeah, yeah, yeah, I

759
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: actually have no idea. It can't be good, can't be

760
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: a good story.

761
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: No.

762
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 3: According to The New York Times, it was not actually

763
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: the Mars guy, Forest Mars.

764
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: It was Texas food broker Gordon L. Harwell. He had basically.

765
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 3: Supplied the armed forces with rice during World War Two

766
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: and was looking for a way to expand it in

767
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: the post war boom years, and during a meeting in Chicago,

768
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: which would lend credence to it being Forest Mars is.

769
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: The Chicago based company of Mars.

770
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just saw a portrait of the restaurant's major d,

771
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: Frank Brown, and decided that will be the mascot of

772
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: my new rice company. Did this maderd get some kind

773
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: of resarve? Oh my goodness, no, you fool. As you

774
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: meditate on that, We'll be right back with more too

775
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 3: much information after these messages.

776
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: All right, where are you?

777
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 3: Where?

778
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: Where the are we? Oh? Okay, sorry, snickers. One of

779
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: my favorites.

780
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: Uh, this is all but a preamble for Mars, the

781
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: Mars chocolate h bomb that blasted away the competition Snickers.

782
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: It is, per you, citing other sources, the best selling

783
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: candy bar in the world, with global sales of three

784
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: point six billion. See that's what I mean when I

785
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: said I'm basic bitch, I like Snickers. The initial idea

786
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: came from a pre existing snack consisting of nougat, peanut

787
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: and caramel. Frank Mars, that wildly old bastard, added chocolate,

788
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: put it in bar form, and started selling it wholesale.

789
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: By this point, he was already wildly successful thanks to

790
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: the Milky Way bar, and so he named his greatest

791
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: creation after the trapping of his success. He had been

792
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: so poor that it's generally understood that this is why

793
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 3: his first wife, Ethel Forrest's mom, left him When he

794
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 3: became a candy Titan. He married a new wife, also

795
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: named Ethel, which is weird, and together they purchased a

796
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 3: three thousand acre farm in Tennessee that they dubbed, of course,

797
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: milky Way Farms. With a staff of over one hundred.

798
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: Ethel's favorite animal on the farm was a racehorse, named Snickers,

799
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: and when the creature died shortly before this new and

800
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: improved version of milki Way with the peanuts went into production,

801
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: the Mars couple decided to name it after Snickers in tribute,

802
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: and they still use a tiny little portion of him

803
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 3: in every Snickers bar that goes out today. When Snickers

804
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: was first released, there was quite a bit of controversy

805
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: surrounding its price. At the time, candy bars cost five cents,

806
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: the Snickers bar was sold for a whopping twenty cents,

807
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 3: and this could be because, like milky Way, was physically

808
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: larger than most of the competitors, and plus each bar

809
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: boasted sixteen peanuts. In twenty twenty, to celebrate the bar's

810
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: ninetieth birthday, they upped the ante and earned themselves a

811
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: place in the Guinness Book of World Records by making

812
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 3: a Snickers bar with three thousand, five hundred pounds of milk,

813
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 3: chocolate and twelve hundred pounds of peanuts, caramel and nougat

814
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: is the equivalent of forty one thousand regular Snicker bars

815
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 3: and would be consumed by these six hundred Mars Wrigley

816
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: workers in Waco, Texas who helped make it that's just

817
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: a weird thing that I just said and then pictured

818
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: in my mind's eye.

819
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: It's like a car, a Snickers bar the size of

820
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: a car, just like what are your marching? What do

821
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: you punch into work?

822
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: You know, you're trying to just send your kids to school,

823
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: and you find out you got to make a Snicker's

824
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: bar the size of a car and then eat it.

825
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: You already got diabetes because you work for because you

826
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: worked for Mars, and you know, doctor said, you're probably

827
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: gonna lose your foot, but you can't lose this job.

828
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 3: You got kids to feed. You know, one of them

829
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: was go to NYU, just study screenwriting.

830
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: So so you make the giant chocolate bar, and chocolate.

831
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: Bar, your your salty tears mingle with the peanuts. Here's

832
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: what I don't look down at the lines on your

833
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: hands and think what happened to that young man who

834
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: used to swim in the streams outside of Waco and

835
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 3: play baseball. I don't even recognize him when.

836
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: I look in the mirror at night, I'm not recognize

837
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: my hands with the hands of an old man.

838
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: Grandma's hired man. The way that this giant Snickers bar

839
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: was divided up. You have to almost cut it like

840
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: a cake.

841
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: And the thought of eating a giant Snickers bar with

842
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: a fork a knife, he's gross.

843
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. Do you have stuff

844
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: in here about the dick Van?

845
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay cool.

846
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: Unfortunately for Snickers, they did not hold the record long.

847
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: Poor Jim Bob lost his foot for nothing. Reese's take five,

848
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: So the record just a couple of weeks later. That's

849
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: a good candy bar. Oh love me to take five.

850
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: Let's take five? Take five?

851
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: An animal?

852
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: You absolute rube, you fool, you full of a two?

853
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: Is that like five alive?

854
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: It's a it's a take it's take five. It's five

855
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: layers of sweet and salted goodness that doesn't ask you

856
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 3: to compromise. It's crunchy pretzels, smooth peanut butter, salty peanuts,

857
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: and sweet caramel, all covered in chocolate coating. Grab this

858
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: snack the next time you want to mix things up.

859
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: That that veers too close to savory for me. That's

860
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: why it's good. What is your aversion to the salty

861
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: sweet combination? That's what we are, Papa. Wait the tagline

862
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: for to take five. Okay, this is just validating me.

863
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: The tagline, at least according to a Wikipedia page, the best

864
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: bar You've never heard of?

865
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: They're great.

866
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: Ah, Take five stole the record just a couple of

867
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: weeks later.

868
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: On the other they're extreme.

869
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 3: You read a report that Milky Way and Snickers were

870
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 3: the first proper fund sized chocolate bars, and a scourge

871
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: on Halloween that has remained unaddressed. Baby Ruth, which we

872
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: will get to, had been released as a junior version

873
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: in the thirties, but the fun sized version of Milky

874
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 3: Way and Snickers, released in nineteen sixty eight, were slightly bigger.

875
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: And I think they were the first ones that actually

876
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: used the term fund sized.

877
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: If you hand out fun size at Halloween, you know

878
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 3: you're part of the problem.

879
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: Wait, really, you handed up full sized candy bars? That

880
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: was like only like, yeah.

881
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three, No, I would have to mortgage

882
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: my house with the way inflation is I'm talking about

883
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: back in the day.

884
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: Oh, that was like just a one neighborhood in my

885
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 2: town that you knew how to copple houses that handled yeah,

886
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: full sized candy bars, and.

887
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: You went there, obviously, but that was by and large.

888
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 3: You got the fun size yeah, yeah, but scaling down

889
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: the size of their candy bar in a nod towards

890
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: the then novel health consciousness sweeping the nation. Must have

891
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: had the folks at Snickers feeling cocky, veiny, vascular swollen,

892
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: engorged and gorged on the sense of their own self importance,

893
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 3: because in nineteen eighty four they ponied up four million

894
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 3: dollars a load of free candy to become the official

895
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: snack food of the nineteen eighty four Olympics. Was that

896
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: the one that Munich happened at or is that eight two?

897
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 3: What happened to eighty four?

898
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: Anything?

899
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: I think the Russians boys the one the Russians boycotted?

900
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Health experts were not pleased. Dietitian

901
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 3: Edward C. Goudstein said at the time the present labeling

902
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: is misleading in that it leads consumers to believe that

903
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: these candies are endorsed by the Olympic Games as a

904
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 3: nutritious snack food choice. He and the other nutritionists were

905
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 3: concerned that the promotion would lead quote little kids to

906
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 3: figure that if they eat Snickers or m and ms,

907
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: they will become athletes. Who's to say they won't. This

908
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 3: sounds absurd. But there were commercials airing at the time

909
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: that had professional alpine skier Carl Anderson saying that eating

910
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: a Snickers allows me to concentrate on downhill. First of all,

911
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: pick a real sport. Second of all, concentrate on downhill.

912
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: That is the entirety of your sport. Snickers doubled down

913
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: on the bad press enlisting their own candy nutritionists. Is

914
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: that like being a concentration camp? Doctor, Holy Snickers doubled

915
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 3: down on the bad press and listing their own candy

916
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: nutritionists to defend the sponsorship. Athletes do have greater demand

917
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: for energy, and candy is one way to get it,

918
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: a mister doctor Daniel Rosenfield said. However, spurred on by

919
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: public health campaigns like Michelle Obama's twenty twelve Let's Move initiative,

920
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 3: MARS decided that it would work to combat the childhood

921
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 3: obesity epidemic by reducing the size of the standard two

922
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty calorie Snickers bars by twelve percent. That's

923
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 3: when the woke war began. All this being said, at

924
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 3: least one Snickers bar somewhere was credited with saving a

925
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 3: man's life. Colorado outdoorsman Christian Jor was on a sowmobiling

926
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: trip when he got separated from his group and buried

927
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: in an avalanche. According to Steamboat Pilot and Today, the

928
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: only things he had in his pockets at the time

929
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 3: were two cigarette lighters and a Snickers. When I stopped

930
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: for gas in the morning, I picked up a little

931
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: pint of orange juice at a king sized Snickers bar,

932
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 3: and unfortunately I left a pint of orange juice in

933
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 3: my car.

934
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: George told CBS. He freed himself, though.

935
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: And spent four days crawling through the waist deep snow

936
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: until he was spotted by a helicopter, and in order

937
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: to keep his strength up, George rationed his Snickers bar

938
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: one bite at a time. Though he did lose twenty

939
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: three pounds during these ordeal, he likely would have starved

940
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 3: to death without the Snickers, and in a pitch perfect

941
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 3: coda to this story, George was reportedly busted for illegally

942
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: growing weed a week later. Cannot make this stuff up well.

943
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: In addition to the controversy at the Olympics, there was

944
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 2: also controversy for Snickers.

945
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 1: On the small screen.

946
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: Snickers as have an uncanny knack for generating a furr

947
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 2: most notably the ad that aired on February fourth, two

948
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: thousand and seven, during the Super.

949
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: Bowl Roman Numerals forty one.

950
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: The commercial showed a pair of mechanics accidentally kissing while

951
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: sharing a Snicker's bar. After quickly pulling away, one mechanic

952
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 2: sheepishly says to the other, I think we just accidentally kissed,

953
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: and then the other mechanic frantically exclaims.

954
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: Quick, do something manly.

955
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: In three of the four versions of this commercial, the

956
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 2: manly thing takes the form of an injury, including tearing

957
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: out chest hair, striking each other with very large pipe wrenches,

958
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: and drinking motor oil and windshield washer fluid. However, in

959
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 2: the fourth version of this ad, a third mechanic pops

960
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: up and asks is the room for three in this

961
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: love boat? The ad drew complaints from gay and lesbian

962
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 2: groups who felt rightfully so, that the ads were homophobic.

963
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: Human Rights Campaign president Joel Soomones is quoted as saying,

964
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: this type of jeering from professional sports figures at the

965
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: sight of two men kissing fuels the kind of anti

966
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: gay bullying that haunts countless gay and lesbian school children

967
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: on playgrounds all across the country. Gay and Lesbian Alliance

968
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: Against Defamation President Neil Giuliano said that Snickers, Mars and

969
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: NFL will promote and endorse this kind of prejudice is

970
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: simply inexcusable.

971
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: The ad was later.

972
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: Pulled from Snicker's website and presumably the airwaves. But Snickers

973
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: apparently didn't learn from this incident because there was a

974
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: similar response to an ad that aired just the following

975
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: year in the UK. This two thousand and eight spot

976
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: featured mister T. Even just describing this, I've watched it.

977
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: It is wild.

978
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: Features mister T trailing an effeminate speed walker in his

979
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 2: tricked out truck and shooting Snickers bars at the speedwalker

980
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 2: from a gun like a gatling gun, while calling him

981
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: quote a disgrace to the man race and screaming at

982
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: him to quote run like a real man. And the

983
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 2: slogan for this campaign get some nuts cause it was

984
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 2: too subtle a point?

985
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the ad agency responsible for this?

986
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: I I who are the adwizards who came up with

987
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: this one?

988
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

989
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Presumably they have high profile lawyers, so

990
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: I might even probably best not to mention. Shockingly to me,

991
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: this advertisement only received two complaints in the UK from viewers,

992
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 2: but it was also criticized by the Human Rights Campaign

993
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: as a portrayal of violence against the lgbtqu community. Also,

994
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: other related Snickers had caused controversy in the UK from

995
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: the very beginning for a whole other reason. When the

996
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: product was first launched across the Pond, many in Britain

997
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: felt that the name Snickers sounded a little too much

998
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: like Knickers, which was rude. So it wasn't until nineteen

999
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: ninety that it became known as Snickers in the UK.

1000
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: Until then, Snickers was known as the marathon bar. I

1001
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: possibly because of the thing we talked about at the

1002
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 2: Olympics where it gave people with a nutscape people energy.

1003
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1004
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: I mean that ad was BBDO, which is like what

1005
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 3: one of the big Yeah, some guy got made more

1006
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 3: money than either of you and I make combined in

1007
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 3: a year.

1008
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: Oh but our entire lives for that ad. I'm sure.

1009
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 3: What's that Bill Hicks Linemitt in the audiences tonight is

1010
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: works in marketing or advertising?

1011
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: Kill yourselves? Not a joke, just a public service announcement.

1012
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: Well, in addition to the UK Snickers has inadvertently offended

1013
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: people really all over the world. Some of these offenses

1014
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: were relatively minor. Case in point, the Welsh into friend

1015
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: of the pod the Welsh. In twenty twenty, the Snickers

1016
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: UK brand tweeted a pla in Wales or someone sat

1017
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: on the keyboard a thread and commented with names like

1018
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna try this.

1019
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 3: So we all know that Welsh's is an interesting language.

1020
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: We all know it. It was low hanging first, yeah,

1021
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: come on.

1022
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: The tweet was quickly deleted, but not before causing an

1023
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: outrage on Welsh Twitter, which apparently is a thing. Some

1024
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: Twitter comments called this tweeted insult to the Welsh language

1025
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: and culture, while others planned to boycott Snickers entirely. Meanwhile,

1026
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: some comments stood up for the Snickers brand, calling the

1027
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: tweet a harmless joke. Hours after the tweet was deleted,

1028
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: Snickers UK posted an apology on Twitter, praising the loyalty

1029
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: of their Welsh fans. But that was nothing compared to

1030
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: what happened just last year in twenty twenty two, when

1031
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: Snickers inadvertently offended the Chinese government when one of their

1032
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: ads for a collaboration with K pop band BTS referred

1033
00:55:54,640 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 2: to Taiwan as a country independent from China. Mars quickly

1034
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: apologize for the misstep, adding that the brand quote respects

1035
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 2: China's national sovereignty and traditional and territorial integrity, and that

1036
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: Taiwan is an inalienable part of China's territory. This, according

1037
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: to the Taipei Times, for those who don't know, that

1038
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: is a hotly contested matter within the Taiwanese community who

1039
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 2: are struggling to be recognized as an independent nation.

1040
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: China. This is such a ridiculous thing to sell.

1041
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: China read It accepted Snicker's apology, but other members of

1042
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: the international community were irate. Fans on Twitter slammed Snicker's

1043
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 2: parent company, Mars Wrigley for caving into the quote bullies

1044
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 2: and not acknowledging the loaded pass between China and Taiwan,

1045
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: and his controversy came just as US Speaker of the

1046
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: House Nancy Pelosi was visiting Taiwan, thus straining ties between

1047
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 2: US and China on this very high stakes visit which

1048
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: was poised to discuss things like climate change.

1049
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 3: So Speaker Belosi, Speaker Blosi, what do you have to

1050
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: say about Snickers?

1051
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: But shockingly, this would not be the first time that

1052
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: Snickers played a semi major role on the world stage.

1053
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: In twenty nineteen, Snickers joined a movement to officially make

1054
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: Halloween the last Saturday in October for trick or treat purposes.

1055
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: In addition to pledging their support, they also put money

1056
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: and chocolate where their mouth is. They shared a tweet

1057
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 2: that read a Thursday Halloween not satisfying. Halloween on the

1058
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 2: last Saturday of October satisfying. If the federal government makes

1059
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: it official, We'll offer one million free Snickers to America.

1060
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: This was not enough to get the federal government to

1061
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: change the official day of Halloween.

1062
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 3: Can't fight Halloween. It's bigger than all of us.

1063
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, higo, do you want to talk about the Snicker veins?

1064
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: I sure do.

1065
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: Two things about Snickers that offend your veins and salad,

1066
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 3: aside from its nuts. Ahiers, you rocked this right. You

1067
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: go fawing at your own jos.

1068
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: She delivered so much better.

1069
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 3: Snickers is famous, Stinkers are famous. Snickers are famous for

1070
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 3: what their fans have dubbed the veins or decorative chocolate

1071
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: twizzle drizzle. We'll get to twizzlers, decorative veins or drizzles.

1072
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 3: This is the grossest combination of words I've ever heard

1073
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: you say.

1074
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it again.

1075
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: Aside from its Aside from their nuts, Snickers are famous

1076
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 3: for what fans have dubbed the veins or decorative chocolate

1077
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: drizzle on the top of the bar. In twenty twenty two,

1078
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: a photo of a shockingly veinless bar smooth like a

1079
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,439
Speaker 3: baby's bottom, went viral on Twitter, leading to rampant speculation and,

1080
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 3: in many cases, outright disinformation. Someone even created a fake

1081
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 3: screenshot of conservative commentator Tucker Carlson slamming the so called

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00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 3: woke mob for insisting that the allegedly sexually suggestive veins

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00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: be removed. Some fans thought it was real, not a

1084
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: big stretch, because Carlson had recently gone on a rant

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00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 3: about the desexualization of the eminem's mascots.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was sexualization of the eminem's mat Again.

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00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 3: We're not saying I thought they were upset that they

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00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 3: made her not sexy, the green emagy.

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00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 2: I thought they were upset that they made her sexy,

1090
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: which is completely contradicting his problem with making Snickers not sexy.

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00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: I've gone crossing the van. In response to the.

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00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 3: Outcry, Snickered assured fans that the veins were as engorged

1093
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: as ever going nowhere, able to be seen through the

1094
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: thickest of gray sweatpants. Uh. In response to the confusion,

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00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: a former Mars regular plant worker explained that the iconic

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00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 3: veins are made using a decorator belt, and sometimes a

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00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 3: bar might miss that process. Agender Snickers just a non

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01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: vascular Snickers, flaccid Snickers, and god, speaking of state Fair food,

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01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: Snickers salad, there's no segue for this. I'm just gonna

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01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 3: say it. Snickers salad in Iowa, of course, consists of

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01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 3: whipped cream pudding, Granny Smith apples, and chopped up Snickers bars.

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01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: What kind of pudding? Vanilla?

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01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 3: Either banana or vanilla one the other. Yeah, oh, you know,

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01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 3: that's fine. I would eat that vanilla. I would eat vanilla.

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01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 3: I don't try know if it has to be it's massive,

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01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 3: maybe because it's otherwise it's it's too much chocolate.

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01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's not chocolate. It's not chocolate pudding. Okay,

1108
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: it's it's some kind of But it wouldn't sound bad

1109
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: if it wasn't called salad. Yeah, but salad is.

1110
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: Like is as you edge into the Midwest.

1111
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: They call anything that's just got like more than yeah

1112
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 3: and more than three ingredients salad. You ever had ambrosia?

1113
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 3: That's like yeah yeah, like the gross canned mandarin oranges

1114
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: and like marshmallows and all whipped into a disgusting lather.

1115
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: As much as I like exotic, gross desserts, that's kind

1116
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: of where I dow the line.

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01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: They don't call that salad though, they call that ambrosia.

1118
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: Shut up.

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 2: Let's move on to to one of my all time favorites,

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01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 2: KitKat bars.

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01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 3: Now, the name KitKat has a surprisingly high brow pedigree.

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Speaker 1: You like kitkats? I love Kitkats? Why they don't? They're

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01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: just so boring? You mean they got waifer z them.

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01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: That's it. Chocolate's good. Okay, I don't know.

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01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm learning all kinds of things about each other here

1127
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 3: in this Bromangelan first a quest Romangolin, in this Bromangolin

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01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: excursion we're having here.

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01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I mean, so you like Snickers see Snickers,

1130
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: I don't like because there's too much going on. It's

1131
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 2: it's just too it's too chaotic. It's the same reason

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01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: I don't like beat it On. Michael Jackson's thriller It's

1133
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: just too It's too loud, same reason, and put skittles

1134
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: in with sprite.

1135
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: I just gotta let's do the one at a time. Okay,

1136
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: all right, fine, fine, fine, I know.

1137
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: But the KitKat was named after the kit Cat Club,

1138
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: which was a seventeenth century assembly of British Weak Party supporters,

1139
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: artists and literary figures who met at a pie shop

1140
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: run by pastry chef Christopher Katling, which is the most

1141
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: British sentence I've ever read. The club's name, KitKat Club,

1142
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: was a reference to Katling's famous mutton pies, which everyone

1143
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: called kit kats, an abbreviation of his name. Kit is

1144
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 2: diminutive of Christopher and cat for Katling. The name kit

1145
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: Cat Club ultimately became synonymous in Britain with political and

1146
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: social discourse. Two centuries later, at the beginning of the

1147
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds, British candymaker Joseph Rowntree, co founder of the

1148
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: famous Rountree Candy company, trademarked the name, and no one's

1149
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: really sure if it was a nod to this bit

1150
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: of British history. There's also a rumor that he liked

1151
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 2: the name because it was a reference to his wife's

1152
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 2: sorority days and was actually an acronym for keep in touch.

1153
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 2: Kit Kappa alpha theta her sorority cat.

1154
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: KitKat.

1155
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 2: Regardless, kitcat became a popular phrase again in jazz age London.

1156
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: There was a nightclub named after it, as well as

1157
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: a band, and eventually, in nineteen thirty seven, kitcat was

1158
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: used to re christen Round Trees chocolate.

1159
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,439
Speaker 1: Crisp bar now.

1160
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: The distinctively shaped bar was first made in nineteen thirty

1161
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 2: five after an employee put a note in the chocolate

1162
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: company suggestion box requesting, quote, I love this a chocolate

1163
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: bar that a man could take to work in his

1164
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: pack up or lunch bag. This was an era when

1165
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 2: candy was basically seen as meal replacements and marketed as

1166
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: quote good food. You would see that phrase and a

1167
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: lot of ads and rappers would boast fresh and greedy.

1168
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 2: It's like milk away we talked about earlier boasted fresh.

1169
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: Eggs and milk.

1170
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: Basically, candy bars were viewed as early energy bars, and

1171
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: so for workers who didn't want to take the time

1172
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: to sit down and have a full lunch, especially if

1173
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: they're getting paid hourly, a candy bar was the solution

1174
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: for just a quick, cheap.

1175
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: Easy lunch.

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01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: Round Trees marketed Kitcat bars as quote the biggest little

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01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 2: meal in Britain, but they also made an attempt to

1178
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: appeal to people who just preferred it as a snack

1179
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 2: and not as a meal replacement, and they came up

1180
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: with a slogan the best companion to a cup of tea.

1181
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 2: So there's thoughts that when they rebranded the chocolate crisp

1182
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: to KitKat, that phrase of you know, people in a

1183
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 2: club all gathered together having discourse. The camaraderie was meant

1184
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: to signify the enjoyment of a shared break, so that's

1185
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: what's believed to be the meaning of the name KitKat.

1186
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 2: The way for filling in KitKat was not just for taste.

1187
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: Since biscuits were cheaper than cocoa, it helped keep the

1188
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 2: cost of the Kitcat bar down, which meant that it

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01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: was an affordable working man's chocolate bar is baked in

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01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: rigidly controlled environment to ensure proper crisp and rejected bars

1191
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 2: are ground up and used as filling in new bars,

1192
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: which makes the manufacturing process surprisingly eco friendly and zero waste.

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01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: Or like a human centipede.

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 2: Making its third appearance on today's episode. Kitcats were always

1195
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: a very socially conscious candy bar. During World War Two,

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01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: a shortage of milk force Round Trees to switch from

1197
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: milk chocolate to dark chocolate and it's Kitcat bars, and

1198
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 2: to signify the change, the company changed the wrapper from

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01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: red to blue with a somber message on the front

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01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: that read, this product is made with plain chocolate. Our

1201
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 2: standard chocolate crisp will be reintroduced as soon as milk

1202
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: is available, and they even change their ad copy at

1203
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: this time to very kind of dour things like no

1204
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: more chocolate crisp until after the war, which is kind

1205
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 2: of like an anti advertisement really. In the fifties, manufacturing

1206
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: innovations helped get the Kitcat bars firm enough so that

1207
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 2: the little fingers could be broken apart with a distinctive snap,

1208
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: and this inspired an ad man with the J. Walter

1209
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 2: Thompson firm in London, who combined the breaking sound of

1210
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 2: the company's long running t break theme to develop the

1211
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: slogan have a break, have a Kitcat. This was first

1212
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 2: used during a television ad in nineteen fifty eight, and

1213
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: the phrase is still used in British ads today, but

1214
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: American fans will be more familiar with the version that

1215
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 2: has been playing in this country since nineteen eighty six.

1216
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm afraid to even say it because it'll put that

1217
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 2: earworm into your head. Give me a break, Give me

1218
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: a break, break me off a piece of that kit

1219
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 2: Cat bar. Researchers at the University of Cincinnati polled several

1220
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: hundred subjects to discover that that song is ranked one

1221
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 2: of the highest earworms in history, alongside Ymca who Let

1222
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 2: the Dogs Out and the Mission Impossible theme.

1223
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: Kick Catfisionados or anyone who ever studied abroad, and jury's

1224
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: still out on which of those two are more annoying.

1225
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 3: As a subgroup will know that there's a huge difference

1226
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 3: between European and American kit cats. That is because they're

1227
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 3: made by two very different companies. Round Trees licensed the

1228
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 3: kitcat name for the American market for them. This was

1229
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 3: a win win since round Trees got exposure for their

1230
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 3: candy bar and Hershey's got a new product. This deal

1231
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 3: is contracted in perpetuity, so when Nesley acquired round Trees

1232
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty eight, it honored the original agreement, but

1233
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 3: with one stipulation. Nesli would regain the rights to the

1234
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 3: kitcat if Hershe's ever attempted to sell itself to another business.

1235
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 3: In essence, Neslie would steal back the recipe if her

1236
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 3: She's ever joined a bigger company. It was and has

1237
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 3: continued to be an effective way to stop Hershey's from

1238
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 3: going into business talks with a competitor. If Hershe's lost Kitcat,

1239
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 3: it would lose one of its biggest products, ultimately lowering

1240
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,959
Speaker 3: the company's worth. Most people say that the European version

1241
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 3: is better and prearly has higher quality ingredients, but Jordan,

1242
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 3: for the record, prefers the American one. It's the red

1243
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 3: vines versus twisters. Red vines are worse, but they're better,

1244
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 3: very good.

1245
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: We can't talk.

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01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 3: About four and kitkats, though, without discussing Japan. I don't

1247
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 3: think that there's ever been a country that has loved

1248
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 3: a candy product more than Japan loves KitKat bars. The

1249
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,680
Speaker 3: headline for a twenty eighteen New York Times piece says

1250
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 3: it all. In Japan, the KitKat isn't just a chocolate,

1251
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 3: It's an obsession. I would have sent that one back.

1252
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 3: Isn't just a chocolate? Who says that New York Times

1253
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 3: Paper of Record, My ass.

1254
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: In Japan, KitKat breaks you there, it was, now we're talking.

1255
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: It began in the nineteen seventies.

1256
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,799
Speaker 3: KitKat two Electric Boogloo It began in the nineteen seventies.

1257
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 3: But the brand had a stroke of good luck because

1258
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 3: the phrase KitKat is very similar to the Japanese phrase

1259
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 3: kitchu katsu, which translates to surely win. This led the

1260
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 3: candy bar to be embraced as a sort of good

1261
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 3: luck charm, especially among students. One tradition involves sending special

1262
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,839
Speaker 3: Kitcat post cards to college students just before big exams.

1263
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 3: Leaned into this marketing, the bars a gift for encouragement

1264
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 3: and luck. Now, almost fifty years later, it's become firmly

1265
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 3: lodged in Japanese culture. Japan moves about four million mini

1266
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 3: kit Cats a day in a range of over two

1267
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:17,799
Speaker 3: hundred flavors, among them with sabi yubari, melon corn, green beans,

1268
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: sweet potato, cherry, miso, green tea, and soy sauce. Even

1269
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 3: so kit Cat flavored cough drops, which I'm not even

1270
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 3: sure how that works. Limited edition Kitkats become highly sought

1271
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 3: after in Japan, but some traveling across the country in

1272
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 3: order to obtain them. And they've even switched from plastic

1273
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,480
Speaker 3: to paper packaging that can be folded into origami.

1274
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: That's great. I love that for them.

1275
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now we're moving on to skittles. How do

1276
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 3: you feel about skittles? Like skittles like sour skittles?

1277
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, yeah, I like. I like uh.

1278
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,839
Speaker 3: I like to get in a bunch of skittles and

1279
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: and mashing them into a big uh an uber skit

1280
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 3: an uber skittle in my mouth and then putting in

1281
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 3: my lip like a like a you know, like shawl. Yeah,

1282
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 3: just walking around with that all day. You know, you

1283
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 3: didn't do that like you ever do that with when

1284
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 3: you had an airhead, and you would do that thing

1285
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 3: where you'd whip the airhead in its package down all

1286
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 3: the way until it was just like a like a

1287
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: marble sized thing of airhead.

1288
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: No, and I genuinely want to know more about what

1289
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: you're talking about. For some reason, I feel like I

1290
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 2: was not exposed to airheads as a kid.

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01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 3: You would just take the airhead and because it was

1292
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 3: taffy and it was semi soft, you know, you would

1293
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 3: just whip it repeated. This is what just I don't

1294
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 3: happen elementary school. In middle school, like whenever we get airheads,

1295
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 3: you would just see all like all the boys doing

1296
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 3: this for like the next six hours. Just take your airhead,

1297
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 3: hold it by one end and just keep whipping it

1298
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 3: back and forth, and eventually the momentum forces the entire

1299
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 3: airhead from a long, thin strip into a single mass

1300
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 3: of sugar at the bottom. That's like this, you know,

1301
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 3: the like a little ball, and then you just hork

1302
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 3: down on that. I don't know why we did it

1303
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 3: was somebody to do. Also, you could just whip it

1304
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 3: at people.

1305
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow.

1306
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 2: I never well, Skittles, in my money, always seemed like

1307
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: the highest sugar content, so I always appreciated Skittles. The

1308
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: Mars Company started to produce Skittles in nineteen seventy four

1309
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 2: for the British market. Actually wasn't available in the United

1310
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: States into nineteen seventy nine. The name Skittles actually has

1311
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: a kind of complex origin. There's a lengthy article about

1312
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 2: it on Vice. It seems to originate from a game

1313
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: called skittles, which is considered a forerunner of bowling. It's

1314
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 2: a traditional lawn and target game from Europe dating back

1315
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 2: to three thousand BC, and then over the millennia it

1316
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 2: gradually morphed into an indoor pub game. The name Skittles

1317
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,480
Speaker 2: is actually thought to be from an Old English word skotin,

1318
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 2: meaning to shoot. Since the player shoots balls at the pins,

1319
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 2: why name.

1320
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: A candy after this?

1321
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: Well, there are some who believe that the Skittles the

1322
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 2: candy were so named because the candid resembles the pins

1323
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 2: that were used, but some believe that it might be

1324
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: a little more vague than that. Charles Dickens used the

1325
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: phrase beer and skittles in his eighteen thirty seven book

1326
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 2: The Pickwick Papers as basically euphemiser for jovial, fun and pleasurable.

1327
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the forerunner of Netflix jerk and off,

1328
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, what goonin the forerunner of Goonin.

1329
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: Considering they were initially an English candy, it makes sense

1330
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: that they would choose this very English expression for its name. Now,

1331
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 2: the folks at Mars are very serious about the s

1332
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 2: that can be found on Skittles, which fun fact, if

1333
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: you submerge a skittle in water, the letter just floats off.

1334
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 1: Intact, try it sometime.

1335
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: They are so serious about the presence of this s

1336
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: that their chief quality control metric is whether or not

1337
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 2: there's an S on every skittle.

1338
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: And so, because so many millions of skittles are.

1339
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: Made every single day, people in charge of quality control

1340
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: simply you know, one representative skittle out of so many

1341
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 2: thousand produced, and if it's lacking an S, the entire

1342
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: batch of thousands of skittles will be destroyed. And to

1343
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 2: be exact, they get crushed down and sold as animal feed.

1344
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 3: Oh, that's funked up. Should not be feeding animals to that.

1345
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: Then what do they do to the guy who is

1346
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 3: asleep at the wheel. They shoot him and take them

1347
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 3: out into a field like in Casino.

1348
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: No, they take them to the Tutsi. He gets fed

1349
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 1: to the Tutsi beast. That's another five years.

1350
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 2: But on the upside, apparently skittles are marginally better for

1351
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 2: you than I initially believed. I was always under the

1352
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,799
Speaker 2: impression that Skittles had a shockingly high amount of sugar

1353
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 2: contained in it, But apparently it's not the case, or

1354
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: at least no more so than other brands of candy.

1355
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 2: But even more shockingly, a small bag of Skittles supposedly

1356
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 2: contains fifty percent of the daily recommended amount of vitamin

1357
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 2: C for eight year olds and twenty.

1358
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:00,879
Speaker 1: Five percent for an adult.

1359
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 2: Huh, so there's actually a quantifiable benefit to eating Skittles.

1360
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: Did you know about.

1361
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 3: The all the NBA players who were like deeply in

1362
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 3: love with Skittles? No, Oh, this was a thing like

1363
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 3: ten literally ten years ago. I mean it was in

1364
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:21,759
Speaker 3: the Arizona Republic wrote this thing with a sports reporter

1365
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 3: wrote it in twenty thirteen where this guy was there

1366
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 3: then forward Michael Beasley was talking about eating six or

1367
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 3: seven bags of Skittles daily and was padded down for

1368
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 3: them before he made it to the arena because they

1369
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 3: team doctors and dietitians were so worried about this. Wow. Yeah,

1370
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 3: well my favorite bit of Skittles apocrypha.

1371
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: Everyone knows the whole thing about Reese's Pieces in ET.

1372
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: It was one of the most successful examples of product

1373
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: placement in history. Seed to Spielberg wanted to use M

1374
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 2: and M's and them said no, They went with Reese's

1375
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 2: Pieces instead. Apparently there was I read as much as

1376
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: a three hundred percent increase in sales following the release

1377
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 2: of ET. Mars didn't want to get screwed again, so

1378
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 2: they jumped at their next movie tie and opportunity. Unfortunately,

1379
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 2: it was for a legendarily bad et knockoff called Mac

1380
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: and Me, which seemed to really only exist solely as

1381
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 2: a platform for product placement. There's a lengthy breakdancing scene

1382
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 2: set in a McDonald's. There's a character who inexplicably wears

1383
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: a McDonald's uniform in every scene. There's an alien who

1384
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 2: refuses to drink anything but cokes.

1385
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 3: It's just a very bad movie. It's the butt of

1386
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 3: a recurring joke with Paul Rudd, who would appear on

1387
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 3: Conan O'Brian's late night show for twenty plus years, claiming

1388
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 3: that he had a clip from his new movie he

1389
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 3: wanted to show, and then he would just show the

1390
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 3: same absurd clip from Mac and Me of a kid

1391
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 3: in a wheelchair flying down a hill, on off a

1392
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 3: cliff into a river. Well, the producer had worked on

1393
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 3: advertising campaigns with McDonald's and also the Ron McDonald House charities,

1394
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 3: so he was not The film was not paid for

1395
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 3: by McDonald's, but he did get money. Well, he did

1396
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 3: get money to make the movie from Golden State Foods,

1397
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 3: which is a food service company that is closely primarily

1398
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 3: serves McDonald's. So, how far does the rabbit hole go?

1399
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 1: Very far? Have you seen mecamee?

1400
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 3: No, I've seen the clips. Yeah, that Paul rudbit is

1401
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 3: pretty funny. So yeah, this didn't exactly help the sale

1402
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 3: of Skittles. They're great candy. Yeah, but the candy brand

1403
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 3: made up for it in nineteen ninety four with their

1404
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 3: Taste the Rainbow campaign, which is still going strong almost

1405
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 3: thirty years later, making one of the longest running ad

1406
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 3: campaigns ever. And truly insane stuff has graced the Taste

1407
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 3: of the Rainbow campaign. Arguably their most infamous ad was

1408
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 3: the twenty eighteen souperuper Bowl. Don't remember it? Well, there's

1409
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 3: a reason for that. Only one person ever saw it.

1410
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: Do you remember this?

1411
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 3: No, this is something called the exclusively the Rainbow Project.

1412
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 3: The super Bowl is one of the most watched sports

1413
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 3: events on planet Earth. The super Bowl is one of

1414
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 3: the most watched events period on planet Earth. It's probably

1415
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 3: the last bit of monoculture that we actually have as

1416
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 3: a country. Upwards of one hundred million people tune in.

1417
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 1: That sounds low now that I actually hear that out loud.

1418
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure it's been declining true or twenty

1419
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 3: What was it this year? One hundred and fifteen million,

1420
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifteen and twenty twenty three? Yeah, okay,

1421
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,919
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirteen. I actually see here according to Nielsen,

1422
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 3: But fine, we'll go with your numbers. So that year

1423
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 3: advis we're going for five million dollars for a thirty

1424
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 3: second spot. Skittles decided to take the piss on this

1425
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,760
Speaker 3: entire concept by filming a big budget cinematic ad and

1426
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,680
Speaker 3: showing it to just one person. They hired Friends star

1427
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 3: David Swimmer to film a series of four commercials, one

1428
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 3: of which was chosen and shown only once, to seventeen

1429
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 3: year old Marcos Menendez of Canoga Park, California. The ad

1430
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,759
Speaker 3: itself was never shown on TV, but on Super Bowl Sunday,

1431
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 3: fans were invited to go to Skittle's Facebook page to

1432
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 3: watch Mendez's reaction to seeing it for the first time,

1433
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 3: viewing it on an off screen monitor. The only details

1434
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 3: he shared at the time were that it featured Swimmer

1435
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 3: shooting laser beams out of his mouth. Schwimmer told Parade,

1436
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 3: when they first told me what they were doing in

1437
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 3: the premise, I thought, well, that is absurd to put

1438
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 3: all this time and energy into these spots that only

1439
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 3: one teenager was going to see was inherently really funny

1440
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 3: and subversive. At the time, he hadn't yet met the

1441
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 3: boy for whom he would be making the commercial, but

1442
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 3: I hope I do, he added, It would be kind

1443
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 3: of weird if I didn't meet him at some point.

1444
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 3: Maybe Marcos will have to make a video for me

1445
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 3: in turn. That's weird, David Swimmer, or he'll shoot his

1446
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 3: own commercial with his friend Trudeau Skittles word. Menendez remains

1447
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 3: the only person to have seen the ad the campaign worked.

1448
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 3: The Super Bowl twenty eighteen ad remains the most talked

1449
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 3: about Skittles ad ever and is considered one of the

1450
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 3: best Super Bowl twenty eighteen ads in general.

1451
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 1: So how do they top that? Well?

1452
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 3: The next year, instead of an ultra exclusive Super Bowl ad,

1453
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 3: the mad Men at Skittles staged a Broadway style of

1454
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 3: musical on Broadway, written by Pulitzer Prize finalist Will Eno.

1455
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,799
Speaker 3: The script for the extremely met up production was entitled

1456
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 3: Skittles Commercial The Broadway musical copywriter Nathaniel Lawler. Prolific composer

1457
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 3: Drew Gasparini wrote the songs and In the forty five

1458
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 3: minute musical, Michael C. Hall plays an actor about to

1459
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 3: star in a Skittles ad in the form of a

1460
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 3: theater piece. Plants in the audience yell at Hall, and

1461
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 3: then his character runs away, dies and meets the spirits

1462
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 3: of Amelia Earhart and Winston Churchill and wonders if this

1463
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 3: whole musical ad is a bad idea. This premise is

1464
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 3: telegraphed through songs like this might have been a bad idea.

1465
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,959
Speaker 3: This was definitely a bad idea, and advertising ruins everything.

1466
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 3: You can hear these songs on the original cast album,

1467
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 3: along with four minutes of Haul eating Skittles. The Skittles

1468
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 3: Commercial Musical opened on Broadway on February third, twenty nineteen,

1469
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 3: the night of the Super Bowl, doubling down on the

1470
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 3: theory that there is zero overlap between theater kids and

1471
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,799
Speaker 3: football fans. The music will also closed that night by design.

1472
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 3: That's incredible. That is the best use of advertising dollars.

1473
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that is so good. Skittles, In case you

1474
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 3: hadn't guessed by that insane series of commercials that were

1475
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 3: just related to you, is notable for having one of

1476
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 3: the better corporate social media accounts. In twenty sixteen, Donald

1477
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 3: Trump Junior famously tweeted out a photo of a bowl

1478
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 3: of Skittles in order to make an ill advised point

1479
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 3: about immigration policies, writing I think.

1480
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: He even wrote it. It was like a was it

1481
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: a met It was a man. I didn't right.

1482
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 3: If I had a bowl of Skittles and I told

1483
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,839
Speaker 3: you just three would kill you, would you take a handful?

1484
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 3: Needless to say, for those of you who know how

1485
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 3: social media works, the public once they were done dunking

1486
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,759
Speaker 3: on Donald Trump Junior quickly turned its eyes to Skittles,

1487
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 3: who responded as diplomatically an elegantly as they could given

1488
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 3: the circumstances. Skittles are candy and refugees are people, and

1489
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 3: we don't wish to comment further. That was graceful, But

1490
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 3: the same cannot be said for a campaign that they

1491
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 3: launched in two thousand and nine. Early in Twitter's lifespan,

1492
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: they opted to change the landing page of their official

1493
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 3: website to display tweets that people sent to the company.

1494
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 3: So what happened next became known as Taste the Failbow. Naturally,

1495
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 3: people started tweeting various forms of obscenities at the company,

1496
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 3: usually with the hashtag Skittles fisting, which were then splashed

1497
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 3: across the brand's website. So many thousands of people tried

1498
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 3: flooding the Skittles homepage with profane content that for a

1499
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 3: brief moment they actually crashed Twitter as a whole. Incredible

1500
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: stuff and yet somehow not the worst thing to happen

1501
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 3: to the Skittles brand.

1502
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: That is true.

1503
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 2: In July twenty twenty two, a lawsuit was filed in

1504
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: a Northern California federal court alleging that Skittles contain a

1505
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 2: quote known tocsin called titanium dioxide, which renders them, according

1506
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: to the lawsuit, quote, unfit for human consumption. Janeal Thames,

1507
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:12,440
Speaker 2: a resident of San Lorendo, filed suit against Mars Incorporated,

1508
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: seeking class action status, alleging that people who consume Skittles

1509
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: quote are at heightened risk of a host of health

1510
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 2: effects for which they are unaware, stemming from genotoxicity the

1511
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 2: ability of a chemical substance to change DNA. The case

1512
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 2: was dismissed that November twenty twenty two, and people went

1513
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 2: back to shoveling Skittles down their gullets. Now this brings

1514
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: us to a deeper question, how do you eat Skittles?

1515
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 2: According to pr Newswire, a twenty nineteen survey conducted by

1516
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: Mars Incorporated uncovered a lot.

1517
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 3: Of data about how people eat Skittles. Slightly less than

1518
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 3: half of Skittles consumers eat them by the handful, like

1519
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 3: my dear friend Alex Eigel, while thirty one percent eat

1520
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 3: a few at once and twenty percent savor them one

1521
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,680
Speaker 3: by one or Strawberry is the most beloved flavor with

1522
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 3: thirty three percent of fans making that choice, and the

1523
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 3: least popular flavor with only six percent citing it as

1524
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:13,919
Speaker 3: their favorite, is yellow or lemon. Ironically, according to Skittles

1525
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 3: factory footage analyzed by UK's The Sun, there are more

1526
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 3: yellow pieces than any other type of flavor in the

1527
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 3: Levitch bag of skills.

1528
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: Bull it really is.

1529
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right

1530
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 2: back with more too much information.

1531
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: In just a moment.

1532
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 2: This brings us to another fruity candy classic that has

1533
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 2: its roots of my beloved UK Starburst. It was introduced

1534
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty by Mars and it was called initially,

1535
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't know why I have such a visceral reaction

1536
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: and how much I hate this name. Starbursts were originally

1537
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:04,799
Speaker 2: called opal Fruits.

1538
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: I hate. I don't know why.

1539
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 3: It sounds like British slang for testicles. I hit me

1540
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 3: in the old opal Fruits he did. I know, he's

1541
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 3: a day fire down in the old East Stand. He

1542
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 3: did whack me around the ople Fruits.

1543
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: It's like Eliza Doolutle. That's haunting.

1544
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: So this name that I hate so much was the

1545
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 2: result of a contest. The winner, a London copywriter named

1546
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: Peter Feffer, came up with the name opal Fruits, which

1547
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 2: netted him the princely sum of five pounds are about

1548
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars in today's money.

1549
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 1: For those of you who.

1550
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,440
Speaker 2: Have a head for numbers, you'll notice that is significantly

1551
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 2: less than the hundreds of millions of dollars the candy

1552
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 2: brand pools in each year. The candy was introduced to

1553
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 2: the United States in nineteen sixty eight under the name

1554
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 2: Eminem's Fruit Chewies, before they finally yeah, it's really ye

1555
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 2: that that did not last long before they changed it too.

1556
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 2: It's more famous Moniker Starburst.

1557
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: Now. The origin of this.

1558
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: Name is unknown, but it's believed to be both a

1559
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: reference to the burst of flavor, and also a somewhat

1560
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 2: cheap ploy to get in on the space race fever

1561
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: that had gripped America at this time. The UK version

1562
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:25,759
Speaker 2: remained Opal Fruits until nineteen ninety eight, during which point

1563
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 2: it fell victim to globalism and was changed to Starburst,

1564
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 2: much like how the Marathon bar was changed to Snickers

1565
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: in the nineties. This was apparently hugely controversial to candy

1566
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 2: loyalists in the UK, and there was a lot of

1567
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 2: celebration when Mars released a throwback version of the candy

1568
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 2: and original opal Fruit style packaging.

1569
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 3: You like that a lot, just the phrase candy loyalists

1570
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 3: taking heavy losses and the portions of the city controlled

1571
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 3: by the candy loyalists.

1572
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 1: The long slender, jerky like packaging. You wrote this, what's

1573
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: your footstool problem? I wrote this all like one day.

1574
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 2: The long slender, jerky like packaging was supposedly made to

1575
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 2: resemble mini space food sticks. Are you familiar with space

1576
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 2: food sticks?

1577
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: It's just all dehydrated crab, right anything. I mean, it's

1578
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 1: like worse than that. It's like.

1579
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 2: It was like kind of barely food. It was developed

1580
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 2: in the late sixties by Pillsbury's chief food technologist, the

1581
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 2: guy by the name of Howard Bauman, whose team had

1582
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 2: worked closely with NASA in the past. He'd created the

1583
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 2: first solid food consumed by a NASA astronaut. They were

1584
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: just bland food cubes, eaten during Scott Carpenter's trip on

1585
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: the Aurora seven in nineteen sixty two. I think he

1586
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 2: was the third American in space, and John Glenn had

1587
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: famously consumed the fruit flavored Tang drink in space three

1588
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 2: months earlier on the friendships. But space food cubes were

1589
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 2: followed by other space friendly foods created by Pillsbury. There

1590
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 2: was a non crumbly cake, a relish that could be

1591
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 2: served in slices, almost like cranberry sauce, and then there

1592
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 2: was meat that needed no refrigeration. So in nineteen seventy

1593
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 2: Pillsbury trademarked a quote non frozen balanced energy snack in

1594
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: ROB form containing nutritionally balanced amounts of carbohydrate, fat, and protein,

1595
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,879
Speaker 2: which is just space level like this will keep you alive.

1596
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: I guess non frozen balanced energy Snack in ROD form

1597
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 2: wasn't quite snappy enough, so they changed it for consumers

1598
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 2: to space food sticks. I was widely considered a forerunner

1599
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 2: of energy bars. They came in six flavors, including peanut, butter, caramel,

1600
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: and chocolate, and in nineteen seventy two, astronauts on board

1601
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 2: the Skylab three space Station eight modified versions of space

1602
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 2: food sticks to test their quote gastroine testine capability, but

1603
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,919
Speaker 2: they were generally an Earth based product. But the packages

1604
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: were almost identical with the long, slender ones that we

1605
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 2: know today as Starburst, which was likely not an accident

1606
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 2: because again, this candy has its roots in the space race. Now,

1607
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 2: the original opal Fruit flavors that were launched in the

1608
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 2: UK included strawberry, lemon, orange, and lime, but the lime

1609
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 2: was later replaced with cherry in the early eighties, which

1610
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: on one hand I find kind of weird because there's

1611
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 2: cherry and strawberry. But everyone knows that the reds are

1612
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 2: the best and the pink is the best of the two,

1613
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 2: including the folks at Mars.

1614
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: They know this.

1615
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 2: That's why they released all pink packages of Starbursts.

1616
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 3: I still just can't get over the phrase non frozen

1617
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 3: balanced energy snack in rawed form. I got one of

1618
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 3: those for you, buddy later. You play your cards right,

1619
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 3: freestied ice cream, though whips ah, sure we'd ever missed

1620
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 3: to discuss Starbust without mentioning the berries and cream guy.

1621
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 3: This TikTok phenomenon began life as a two thousand and

1622
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 3: seven commercial for Star Wars to launch their berries and

1623
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 3: cream flavor, and starred actor Jack Fervor as a little

1624
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 3: lad with a bowl haircut and Nickers, who performs as

1625
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 3: little jig with jazz hands about how he much he

1626
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 3: loves berries and cream. It's completely nonsensical and unhinged, but

1627
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,959
Speaker 3: became extremely popular due to its randomness and when TikTok

1628
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 3: blew up. The audio was posted to the platform by

1629
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,839
Speaker 3: podcaster and former video games journalist Justin McElroy, who captioned

1630
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 3: the video, please make great art with this sound. It's

1631
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 3: what we all need.

1632
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: Are you familiar with it? That's what people did. I

1633
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:36,799
Speaker 1: don't remember.

1634
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 3: I remember the original commercial because I'm old, but I

1635
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 3: don't remember blowing up on TikTok.

1636
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I know, I got huge. Yeah, all right. Well.

1637
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 3: There's a YouTube tutorial that dates back to the commercial's

1638
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:49,719
Speaker 3: debut in two thousand and seven, which involves running in place,

1639
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 3: clapping your hands, tapping your left hand to your right

1640
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 3: heel and your right hand to your left heel and

1641
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 3: gesturating to yourself.

1642
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,839
Speaker 1: Got that savvy.

1643
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 2: So from fruity taffy of starburst, we go to something

1644
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 2: even softer, gummy bears. Before we delve into the creation

1645
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 2: of gummy bears, we should touch on the origin of

1646
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 2: gummies or jelly candies.

1647
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: These were first made with flour.

1648
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 2: Or starch and had a softer, more bouncy texture, and

1649
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 2: initially they used boiled down grape juice in lieu of sugar,

1650
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 2: and the most famous example of this is likely Turkish

1651
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 2: delights or locum in the original Turkish, which has been

1652
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 2: around for centuries. A confectioner named Hachi bakirra Fendi opened

1653
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 2: the candy shop and what is now Istanbul in seventeen

1654
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 2: seventy seven to sell Turkish delights, and today the store,

1655
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 2: which is still in his family, is the oldest business

1656
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 2: in Turkey and according to the BBC, one of the

1657
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 2: one hundred oldest still operating businesses on Earth. Turkishtoyes became

1658
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:50,719
Speaker 2: popular all over the globe, but Europeans, for whatever reason,

1659
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 2: had a difficult time making these candies with starch, so instead,

1660
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 2: by the late nineteenth century, they had turned to gelatin,

1661
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 2: which is in canney making so generally regarded as cheating.

1662
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: In nineteen oh nine, the British candymaker Charles Gordon Maynard

1663
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 2: debuted wine gums, which is one of the first commercially

1664
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 2: successful suitets made with gelatin. These candies don't contain actual wine,

1665
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 2: though Maynard got into fights about this with this teetotaler dad.

1666
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 2: But they did combine chewy gelatin with sweet flavoring, and

1667
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 2: they still exist today. You can find them in the

1668
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 2: import aisle at your local supermarket usually. So we got

1669
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 2: little gummy coins, these wine gums. Where are the damn

1670
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 2: whimsical animals? Enter Hans Regal, a whimsical name if I've

1671
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 2: ever heard one, who left his job at a German

1672
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:44,839
Speaker 2: candy factory in nineteen twenty to start his own Horribou.

1673
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 2: The name is a portmanteau of his first name, Hans,

1674
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 2: his last name Regal, and the hometown of Bond, Germany,

1675
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 2: ha Rebo. Harribou's first products were colorless hard candies that

1676
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 2: Regal made in a copper pot at home and sold

1677
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 2: at local street fit. This met with middling success, but

1678
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:03,679
Speaker 2: in nineteen twenty two.

1679
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:04,759
Speaker 1: He had a new brain wave.

1680
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,959
Speaker 2: Why not model these fruit flavored bits of gelatin into bears?

1681
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 2: That was sure to make his candy stand out? And

1682
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 2: you know, it was just crazy.

1683
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 1: Enough to work, So he unveiled Harrabo's signature.

1684
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 2: Product, the gold Bears, or Dancing Bears, as they are

1685
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 2: originally known. They've actually never been branded as gummy bears,

1686
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:27,719
Speaker 2: only gummy candy, as the package says now Zoolander voice.

1687
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: But why bears? That is the big question.

1688
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 2: The bears were homage to the festivals in Germany that

1689
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 2: featured dancing bears. And dancing bears, for those who don't know,

1690
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 2: is a tradition that goes back centuries, apparently to the

1691
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 2: Middle Ages, and like most antiquated traditions that go back

1692
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:49,839
Speaker 2: to the Middle Ages, it's fairly inhumane. Bears were poached

1693
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 2: from the wildest cubs and taught to dance by being

1694
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 2: forced to stand on metal plates over fire while music played,

1695
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 2: and as the plates heated up, the bears would hot

1696
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 2: from foot to foot to relieve the searing pain. After

1697
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 2: a time, a sort of Pavlovian effect would take over

1698
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 2: and these bears would begin to hop or dance at

1699
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 2: the sound of music being played because they associated it

1700
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 2: with pain.

1701
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,719
Speaker 1: Heigel, don't you associate music with pain?

1702
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 3: Yes, but that's only because I've been doing it so long.

1703
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 3: Despite this horrific conditioning, Oh you got no nothing, I

1704
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 3: got nothing. That's so fucking grim.

1705
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. Isn't that what they used to do with Britney spears?

1706
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:40,799
Speaker 2: Oh, Michael Jackson, seriously, Yeah, Despite this horrific conditioning, dancing

1707
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 2: bears were a beloved part of German festivals until well

1708
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 2: into the twentieth century, which is what led Hans Regal

1709
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 2: to base his gummies on that shape. But to remove

1710
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 2: that horrible image of your mind, I want to present

1711
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 2: you with this wholesome fact. Every October since the nineteen thirties,

1712
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 2: little kids have been invited to visit the Horribor headquarters

1713
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 2: trade in acorns and chestnuts for free gummy treats.

1714
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: Does that make it a little better? No, No, it

1715
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: does not.

1716
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 3: By the nineteen sixties, these dancing bears or tanzbarn A

1717
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 3: the last thing many an American gi saw before dying,

1718
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 3: face down in the mud, squad of tans baron coming

1719
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,720
Speaker 3: for him or a man our boys. We lost a

1720
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 3: lot of good boys to the tans barons. We're a

1721
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 3: mainstay of German candy stores and how did you sit

1722
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 3: one up me with that line without even knowing what

1723
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 3: I was going to go?

1724
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: Riff on? Yeah, you you're going to riff on.

1725
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 3: Like so many Germans before them, Harry Bow sought to

1726
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 3: expand their reach a gummy libens realm if you will,

1727
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 3: to prepare to expand into an international market. They changed

1728
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 3: the look of the Bears for more slender and naturalistic,

1729
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 3: to delightfully chubbier, teddy bear like figures with piercing blue

1730
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:10,839
Speaker 3: eyes blonde hair. In nineteen sixty seven, they also expanded

1731
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 3: their flavor palette from just gold, which was all that

1732
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 3: they made for fifty years, to the multicolored pack we're

1733
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:20,160
Speaker 3: familiar with today, featuring strawberry, lemon, orange, pineapple. After slowly

1734
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 3: expanding across Europe, harrybo brought Gummy Bears to the United

1735
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 3: States in nineteen eighty two, a year after the American

1736
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 3: company Trolley introduced to gummy worms to kids, and before

1737
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 3: long the gummy craze had begun. The Gummy Bears arrival

1738
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 3: was heralded, not unlike the Beatles in nineteen sixty four,

1739
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,759
Speaker 3: with a major television debut, Disney made their first animated

1740
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 3: TV show based on the candy, an idea that came

1741
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 3: to Disney CEO Michael Eisner one day when his son

1742
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 3: requested a gummy bear. Disney's Adventures of the Gummy Bears

1743
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 3: aired from nineteen eighty five to nineteen ninety one on NBC.

1744
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,799
Speaker 3: And this show does not exist.

1745
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no memory. Did you know of this?

1746
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 3: Nope, not a real thing. Do they get eaten? What

1747
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 3: are they trying to battle?

1748
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: It's like care bears.

1749
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 2: I mean it kind of looks like if I recall

1750
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 2: yeah from what I Oh. No, They're not like care

1751
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 2: bears at all. I have no idea because there's nothing

1752
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 2: about them seems especially gummy either. They just seem like bears.

1753
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 1: We should have given the worms.

1754
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,879
Speaker 3: They're a special oh man, just a bunch of worms,

1755
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 3: animated worms, just running around, causing getting into high jinks. Yeah,

1756
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 3: there's nothing about them. There's no candy involved in this show,

1757
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 3: which offends me deeply. It marked the end of Disney's

1758
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 3: policy of staying out of animated television, which is funny.

1759
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 3: This was the shot across the bow their annexation of Poland.

1760
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:42,680
Speaker 1: If you will so in a.

1761
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 3: Sense, the adventures of the Gummy Bears paved the way

1762
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 3: for Darkwing Duck Duck tails Chipendale Rescue Rangers, goof Troop Tailspin.

1763
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 3: There's been an astonishing assortment of shapes and flavors of

1764
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,640
Speaker 3: gummy goodness over the years. Your personal favorite is a

1765
01:36:57,720 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 3: limited edition produced in Germany known as our meek Odin,

1766
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:11,480
Speaker 3: which translates to a German insult meaning ass with ears. Sure, sure, yeah,

1767
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 3: they're the scat.

1768
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:16,600
Speaker 2: Porn people though, right, oh wow, yeah, do yourself a

1769
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 2: favor in Google.

1770
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: Don't? No, you should, you should right now? What is

1771
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: it as a racist cartoon?

1772
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 3: No, it's just it's exactly what I don't it's it's

1773
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 3: the arrested development bit.

1774
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what I expected.

1775
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, huh think about that's like.

1776
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 1: The most offensive to me is that the ears are

1777
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 1: so red. Uh.

1778
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:42,520
Speaker 3: There was another version of gummies by trolleys called Roadkill,

1779
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 3: which were shaped like flat animals with tire marks across them. Ultimately,

1780
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 3: the New Jersey Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to

1781
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 3: Animals complained that it would encourage children to be cruel

1782
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 3: to animals like.

1783
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 1: Jersey's The one who stepped up to the play for that.

1784
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah right.

1785
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 3: There's a restaurant in Japan that offers Sstomer's life sized

1786
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:04,480
Speaker 3: gummy models of themselves, which.

1787
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:05,680
Speaker 1: I would I would do?

1788
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 3: Can you pick the year? Can I pick my my

1789
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 3: younger self, my more spelt self. I'd like to have

1790
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:18,520
Speaker 3: my stick thin twenty seventeen version immortalized in in in

1791
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 3: gumming gelatine. And then I put it, I put it

1792
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 3: in my I put it in my attic, and then

1793
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:28,680
Speaker 3: for every sin of hedonism and gluttony, I gets slowly

1794
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:35,640
Speaker 3: ravaged gummy portrait of Alex Hegel. There's an interesting phenomenon

1795
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 3: to play when it comes to the flavors of the

1796
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Harry Bow Bears, the Tansen Baten.

1797
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:44,520
Speaker 1: File, Tansen Baden.

1798
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 3: Ah. The flavors don't always match it what we think

1799
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:52,719
Speaker 3: of the colors. Some people have report that hairbos green

1800
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 3: Bear tastes like apple or watermelon when it's actually strawberry flavored,

1801
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 3: and this is due to the fact that our brains

1802
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 3: are extremely suggestible. Just seeing the color yellow is enough

1803
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 3: to convince us that what we're tasting is lemon, even

1804
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 3: if we're eating something that's been flavored with a different fruit.

1805
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,400
Speaker 3: This effect was demonstrated and experiment of the influence of

1806
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:13,679
Speaker 3: food coloring on taste perception. Researchers had college students sample

1807
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 3: clear fruit flavored beverages that had been dyed random colors.

1808
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 3: Even when the experimenters asked their subjects to ignore the

1809
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 3: color of what they were drinking, they still reported tasting

1810
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 3: flavors that were merely suggested by the food dye. So

1811
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 3: while Harry Bow claims to use unique flavorings for each

1812
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:33,440
Speaker 3: gummy bear colors, they might be damn liars.

1813
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of unusual gummy flavors, this brings us to Swedish fish.

1814
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 1: I like Swedish fish.

1815
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 2: What do you think The fact that figure ship like

1816
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 2: fish kind of throws me though. I don't like the

1817
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 2: idea of like small and goldfish or something, and I

1818
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 2: can't deal with that.

1819
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 1: Fish freaked me out, though, okay noted. Oh I told

1820
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 1: you why.

1821
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:55,280
Speaker 2: I lived on a lake, and when I was a kid,

1822
01:39:55,320 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 2: the neighbors would take dead fish on rakes and like

1823
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 2: fling them at me.

1824
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. Oh yeah, that's what a

1825
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: bizarre life you've led.

1826
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes I just think about what it's like deep in

1827
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 3: the cages of your subconscious.

1828
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,800
Speaker 2: Yeah now here, I am half till midnight talking about

1829
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 2: Swedish fish. Swedish fish, as you may have imagined, have

1830
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:24,839
Speaker 2: their origins in Sweden. They're created in the nineteen fifties

1831
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 2: by the Malaco Company, who were attempting to expand into

1832
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:30,679
Speaker 2: the US market, and they opted to shape their gummy

1833
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:32,959
Speaker 2: product like fish because that was one of the Sweden's

1834
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 2: largest exports at the time, and they figured Americans would

1835
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 2: associate Sweden with fish. By the nineteen sixties, their multi

1836
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 2: flavored variety bag began to take off, and soon it

1837
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:45,879
Speaker 2: was an international hit. Swedish fish do exist in Sweden,

1838
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 2: but the candies are a little different than their American counterparts.

1839
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 1: For starters, they're called pastagisis.

1840
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:59,560
Speaker 2: Pasteifiscod it translates to pale colored fish, and instead of

1841
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 2: the words Swedish printed on the side like in the US,

1842
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 2: the Swedish candies have the brand Malaco printed on the side.

1843
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 2: But in the US, the flavor that's most famous is

1844
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,760
Speaker 2: the og red version of Swedish fish, which you'd be

1845
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 2: forgiven for calling cherry. In fact, there's quite a bit

1846
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 2: of debate over what the flavor of the red Swedish

1847
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 2: fish is supposed to actually be. Many people think it's

1848
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,640
Speaker 2: meant to taste like cherry, other strawberries, some say raspberry

1849
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 2: or even fruit punch. And there are others who think

1850
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 2: that the red Swedish fish are meant to taste like lingenberry,

1851
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 2: which is a berry native to Scandinavia. To date, the

1852
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,879
Speaker 2: manufacturers have never issued a statement on what the flavor

1853
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 2: is actually meant to be. I'm going to go out

1854
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 2: on lemon say it's lingenberry.

1855
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:42,799
Speaker 3: Might be hard pressed to describe what a lingenberry tastes

1856
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 3: like or even looks like.

1857
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,760
Speaker 1: Could be anything. I could have had one this morning, It.

1858
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 2: Could be anywhere, could be right behind you. I mean,

1859
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 2: that's what because it's like, I know what all those

1860
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 2: other things taste like, and Swedish fish doesn't taste like that.

1861
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:56,640
Speaker 1: So that's kind of why I'm thinking lingenberry.

1862
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 2: And if they were leaning so hard into like the

1863
01:41:58,439 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 2: Sweden national identity to be like oh yeah, like X,

1864
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 2: fish is our biggest export, so it's like let's make

1865
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 2: it ship like fish, they would probably want something that's

1866
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 2: you know, uniquely their culture, like this berry.

1867
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 1: So myth busted.

1868
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call that one and now a candy that

1869
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 2: kind of gets a bad rap because I never think

1870
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 2: about it, but whenever I have it, I enjoy it.

1871
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 2: Milk Duds a lot of people handing, even more than

1872
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 2: tutsi rolls. In a recent poll, they were voted the

1873
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 2: worst Halloween chocolate, with a healthy twenty six percent of

1874
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,799
Speaker 2: the vote. I would say that the name milk Duds

1875
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 2: doesn't do it any favor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean

1876
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 2: milk eat this suck bar. What do you call your

1877
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 2: candy duds? It's like I was reading about Howland Wolf

1878
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:50,799
Speaker 2: the other night. They had like a Howland Wolf album

1879
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 2: that they cover Leonard Chess's genius Masterstroke. This in the

1880
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 2: sixties or like late sixties when they were trying to

1881
01:42:56,880 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 2: make all those og blues guys like psychedelic, and they

1882
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 2: were like, uh, like electric mud is the famous Muddy

1883
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 2: Waters one. And they did one for Holland Wolf and

1884
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 2: the album cover was just white and then black text

1885
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:11,799
Speaker 2: that said this is Holland Wolf's new album.

1886
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:15,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't like it. He didn't like his electric guitar

1887
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:17,240
Speaker 1: at first the right.

1888
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Leonard Chess was conceded that later it

1889
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 3: may not have been a genius marketing move to put

1890
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:24,599
Speaker 3: that the artist did not like.

1891
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 1: The album on his album.

1892
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 3: Really, Oh, I thought it, like is generally agree that

1893
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 3: that was like a good idea.

1894
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I don't think you

1895
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 1: well go ahead, But.

1896
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, milk Dud's the name they got. They got some

1897
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 2: blowback from that. A former executive at the Holloway candy

1898
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 2: co admitted to the Chicago Tribune that they quote got

1899
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:48,640
Speaker 2: some flak about the name, but it was supposed to

1900
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 2: be duds as in fancy duds, not duds as in

1901
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 2: non winners. But the creator's own son would later say

1902
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,719
Speaker 2: nobody liked it. Everybody thought it would be a loser.

1903
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 2: So I guess the creator of milk does, Edwin Holloway,

1904
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 2: He was trying to make chocolate covered caramels into little

1905
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 2: perfect spheres, and instead he got what we now know

1906
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 2: as milk does these little shriveled bits of chocolate like

1907
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:17,719
Speaker 2: almost like a rock like shape.

1908
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, colored duds.

1909
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was apparently the truth of where

1910
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:25,600
Speaker 2: that name came from, and I think it was just

1911
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 2: an unflattering nickname that's stuck. And then they tried to

1912
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:33,799
Speaker 2: spin it unsuccessfully. However, the candies big break came amid

1913
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 2: the Great Depression. Milk Duds thrive during this time of

1914
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 2: economic crisis due to poor relationship dynamics.

1915
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 1: I guess.

1916
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 2: The afore mentioned milk Dougs executive explained to the Chicago Tribune,

1917
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 2: I don't know why the Chicago Tribune was doing such

1918
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 2: an extensive expos.

1919
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:52,719
Speaker 1: On milk duds.

1920
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 2: He said, a lot of men were out of work

1921
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 2: during the Great Depression. Rather than go home and hear

1922
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 2: the wife complain about being unemployed, a lot of men

1923
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 2: would go to a movie for a nickel, and for

1924
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:05,439
Speaker 2: another nickel that could buy a box of milk Duds

1925
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:07,879
Speaker 2: and that would take care of them for a couple hours.

1926
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,759
Speaker 2: A theater business was the backbone of the company.

1927
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:11,679
Speaker 1: That is true.

1928
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 2: I feel like I've never seen anyone eat milk duds

1929
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:16,720
Speaker 2: outside of a theater. So that's all very surprising to me,

1930
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 2: and to me, so is its association with Major League Baseball.

1931
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 2: In the early seventies, milk Duds made a major play

1932
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 2: to be associated with the sport, presumably because of some

1933
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 2: sort of blood feud with the Cracker Jacks. In nineteen

1934
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,560
Speaker 2: seventy one, they were named the official candy of the

1935
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,600
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball Players Association, and the back of the

1936
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 2: boxes were decorated with pictures of then famous Major League

1937
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 2: Baseball players as sort of milk Dud centric versions of

1938
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 2: collectible baseball cards, which I think are relatively sought after

1939
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 2: these days as collectibles. And speaking of both baseball and

1940
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 2: chocolate candies, that no one in twenty twenty three actually

1941
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 2: seems to.

1942
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 1: Like Baby Ruth.

1943
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 2: The one fact that everyone knows, or at least things

1944
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 2: they know about this candy bars that it was named

1945
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 2: in honor of Babe Ruth. That is sort of true,

1946
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 2: but the real story is a little less cut and dry.

1947
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,440
Speaker 2: In nineteen twenty one, the Curtis Candy Company re christened

1948
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 2: their candy cake bars as Baby Ruth. At this time,

1949
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth, the baseball player star was on the ascent,

1950
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:23,760
Speaker 2: but the company would officially claim that they got the

1951
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:28,040
Speaker 2: name from former President Grover Cleveland's daughter, who had died

1952
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 2: tragically at age twelve. This is a sweet story, but

1953
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:34,759
Speaker 2: it sort of falls apart when you realize that Grover

1954
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 2: Cleveland had been out of the White House for twenty

1955
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 2: four years and his daughter, Ruth had been dead for

1956
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 2: seventeen years. So this is like, I don't know, naming

1957
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 2: a candy bar after Chelsea Clinton. If Chelsea Clinton had

1958
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 2: died a tragic premature death in the nineties, like that

1959
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 2: would be the Equally, it's a weird marketing move. So

1960
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 2: my theory is that this candy company had tried and

1961
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 2: failed to get into horsemen deal with Babe Ruth himself,

1962
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 2: and when that failed, they kept the tie in without

1963
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 2: paying royalties and made up a sob story that would

1964
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,439
Speaker 2: make anyone who pursued them legally look like a real jerk.

1965
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 2: That's like that, That's plausible, That's my theory. Hilariously, they

1966
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 2: wound up in court anyway. George Hermann Ruth Babe Ruth

1967
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:25,000
Speaker 2: decided to create his own candy bar, and the Baby

1968
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 2: Ruth Company had the goal to sue him for copyright

1969
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 2: infringement due to the similarity of the name, despite the

1970
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 2: fact that it was his own name. Shockingly, the court

1971
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 2: ruled in favor of the Curtis Candy Company, the makers

1972
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 2: of Baby Ruth, and Babe Ruth never got to produce

1973
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 2: his own candy bar, which is a damn shame. The

1974
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 2: Curtis Candy Company then proceeded to basically mock Babe Ruth

1975
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:52,120
Speaker 2: in their advertising campaign for years. Not only did the

1976
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 2: company put up a billboard near where Babe Ruth's World

1977
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 2: Series ball landed, but they also continued to sponsor baseball

1978
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 2: teams for years, notably the Chicago Cubs.

1979
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 1: In two thousand and seven.

1980
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 2: A more unique ad campaign took place in nineteen twenty three,

1981
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 2: two years after the Baby Ruth candy bar was launched,

1982
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 2: The Curtis Candy Company hired a plane to drop thousands

1983
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:17,640
Speaker 2: of individual Baby Ruth bars over Pittsburgh, each tied to

1984
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 2: a mini parachute, and the plant was so successful that

1985
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 2: they repeated it in several other cities in forty states.

1986
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 1: It's raining.

1987
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:32,160
Speaker 2: Arguably Baby Ruth's greatest culinary legacy is the fact that

1988
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 2: they were one of the first brands, in fact, I

1989
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 2: think the first brand to make a miniature version of itself.

1990
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 1: They debuted the junior version of Baby Ruth Chocolates in

1991
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 1: nineteen thirty two, predating the fun sized versions of Snickers

1992
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 1: and Milky Way by I think thirty five years. But

1993
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:52,360
Speaker 1: for my money, Baby Ruth's biggest influence is on the

1994
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:55,560
Speaker 1: big screen. Not only was the candy bar featured to

1995
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 1: my beloved eighties classic The Goonies, but it also made

1996
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,320
Speaker 1: a truly iconic show going in nineteen eighties Caddy shack

1997
01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:07,480
Speaker 1: in the infamous floater scene. Need we provide a recap?

1998
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 2: No?

1999
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 1: You know, somebody throws it in the pool and everybody

2000
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:12,800
Speaker 1: thinks it's no. I said, we don't have to do that,

2001
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 1: not a candy bar, okay.

2002
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 3: The movie was co written by Brian Doyle Murray, Bill

2003
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 3: Murray's brother and partially inspired by his memory working as

2004
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 3: a caddy at the Indian Hill Club in when Necka, Illinois,

2005
01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 3: and there were some who have claimed that the Baby

2006
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 3: Ruth prank in the pool was inspired by a.

2007
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 2: Real event at the Murray's high school. To my immense regret, however,

2008
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 2: I must share that this scene is not technically accurate.

2009
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 2: Since Baby Ruth bars are unable to float in water.

2010
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 2: The scene is essentially the anti product placement, considering the

2011
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 2: product is being linked to human fecal matter. As a result,

2012
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 2: the candy bar has been somewhat stigmatized, and I have

2013
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 2: to admit I kind of fall for this as well.

2014
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of Baby Ruth, and.

2015
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 3: It's probably because of memories of either sloth eating it.

2016
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:08,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, watching him eat it did a lot to sweep

2017
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: me from wanting to do it. Yeah, we haven't done

2018
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: sours You what do you, Jordan?

2019
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 3: What do you?

2020
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: But what do you make them? To the sour candy variety?

2021
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I are I feel like they're always made

2022
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,680
Speaker 2: as like the second string version of you know, like

2023
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 2: sour Skills for example. I feel like there's very few

2024
01:50:31,320 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 2: than candy brands that are loud and proud.

2025
01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:37,640
Speaker 3: We are a sour candy. Oh, I'm so glad you

2026
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:41,919
Speaker 3: said that. Because Sour Patch Kids began life in Canada

2027
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 3: as mars Men, which was intended to capitalize on the

2028
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 3: UFO craze sweeping the countries, sweeping the continent, Sweeping the continent,

2029
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,719
Speaker 3: sweep the glow, sweeping the globe.

2030
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 1: Baby.

2031
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:57,720
Speaker 3: By the time the company sought to expand into the

2032
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 3: United States in nineteen eighty five, they decided to hop

2033
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 3: on a new bandwagon, Cabbage Patch Kids. They rebranded themselves

2034
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 3: based on the famous toy, and shockingly, no intellectual property

2035
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 3: suit was filed when these men became boys. There's not

2036
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 3: a ton that's interesting about Sara Patch Kids, but they

2037
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 3: did take on an interesting marketing tag back in twenty fifteen,

2038
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 3: when they leased a house in Austin, Texas to use

2039
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 3: as a crash pad for traveling bands. They supposedly also

2040
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 3: got a place in Brooklyn too. I don't know that

2041
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 3: any of our friends ever stay there.

2042
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:28,960
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it.

2043
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 3: Dubbed the Patch, bands were allowed to stay for free

2044
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 3: as they passed through town exchange for instagramming pictures of

2045
01:51:35,240 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 3: the house along with the appropriate sour Patch Kids hashtags.

2046
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:42,600
Speaker 3: Presumably in addition to destroying the social media integrity of

2047
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:45,599
Speaker 3: said bands, the arrangement also managed to piss off the neighbors.

2048
01:51:46,040 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 3: According to Austin Culture, several neighbors complained about the noise

2049
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 3: coming from the patch house and the disruption it caused

2050
01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 3: to the community. One local threatened legal action, arguing that

2051
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 3: in the East Austin area, per the current short term

2052
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 3: rental ordinance, you're required to pay city and state hotel

2053
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 3: taxes for any rentals less than thirty days. If there's

2054
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,520
Speaker 3: one thing that's scarier, though, than real estate legal squabbles,

2055
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:14,080
Speaker 3: it's candy laced with drugs. According to WFLA, in twenty fifteen,

2056
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 3: officials found a synthetic drug called flakka similar to bath

2057
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 3: salts in a candy that looked suspiciously like sour Patch Kids,

2058
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 3: likely an intentional move to persuade young people to try

2059
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 3: the candy, get hooked on the drug, and come back

2060
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 3: for more. So I don't know, don't pick up stray

2061
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 3: sour Patch kids you find on the ground. Isn't the

2062
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 3: whole thing about drugs in Holling candy? Like a complete

2063
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:44,920
Speaker 3: statistical like nothing burger like that's never once ever actually happened.

2064
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,599
Speaker 3: I thought I saw that it did a few times,

2065
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 3: but not often enough to warrant the terror you see

2066
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 3: Washington Post the history of the drug laced candy myth.

2067
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 3: Oh well, I guess it has to do with trafficking.

2068
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 3: I mean, for example, there was at Lax the Sheriff's

2069
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 3: Department seized twelve thousand presumed fentanyl pills last year that

2070
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 3: had been stashed inside Skittles, Whoppers and Sweet Tarts boxes

2071
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 3: and bags. So that's it. But I don't think people.

2072
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 3: I mean, the general diffusion of this idea is that

2073
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 3: people who sell drugs generally want to make a profit,

2074
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 3: not give free drugs to children. It's a bad business move.

2075
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 3: At the end of the day to kill your customers. Yeah, yeah, oh,

2076
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 3: I think it dates back to the tailenl killings in

2077
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:36,679
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty two, seven people died when somebody had gone

2078
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 3: and tampered with tynyl bottles and laced them with cyanide.

2079
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 3: But Joel best At, professor of sociology at Criminal Justice

2080
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 3: at the University of Delaware, told NPR just this year

2081
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:51,720
Speaker 3: that I have data going back to nineteen fifty eight

2082
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 3: and I have yet to find a report of a

2083
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 3: child that's been killed or seriously hurt by a contaminated

2084
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 3: treat picked up in the course of trick or treating.

2085
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 3: He did find one case in of a man in

2086
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 3: Texas murdering his own son with poisoned candy Jesus Christ.

2087
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 3: But I guess so, yeah, I don't know. All right,

2088
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:08,880
Speaker 3: that's great.

2089
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 1: What are you talking about.

2090
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:21,680
Speaker 3: Well, we've come to the Crown Jewel in the Candy Crown, it's.

2091
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 1: Running on empty. Allow myself to introduce myself.

2092
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,280
Speaker 2: We have come, of course, to Reese's Peanut Butter Club,

2093
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:38,440
Speaker 2: which is I like it. I don't subscribe to the

2094
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 2: cult that's around it, but I appreciate that a lot

2095
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 2: of people do.

2096
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 1: It's created by HB.

2097
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:46,560
Speaker 2: Reese, who was a four minute the Hershey Company's milk

2098
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 2: operation known as the Round Barn way back in the

2099
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:53,040
Speaker 2: nineteen tens. When a Round Barn closed, he decided to

2100
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 2: branch out and start his own candy company, which would

2101
01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 2: later be bought and distributed by hers She's again So

2102
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 2: Rise Sunsets. According to the Hershey Community Archives, Reese's earlier

2103
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,200
Speaker 2: chocolates were named after his children. They were called things

2104
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 2: like the Lizzie Bar, which is a chocolate covered caramel

2105
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 2: and shaved coconut candy bar, and the Johnny Bar, which

2106
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 2: is a molasses bar. Ooh, Johnny got screwed in that one. No,

2107
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 2: it's from Johnny Cakes. Still crappy dessert. Lizzy got the

2108
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 2: better one, okay. But it was Reese's invention of a

2109
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 2: chocolate peanut butter cup in nineteen twenty eight that made

2110
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:33,760
Speaker 2: him an icon, and he named those after himself. Actually,

2111
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 2: they were originally known as penny cups because they sold

2112
01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 2: for a penny.

2113
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 1: As the name was.

2114
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 2: Suggest they weren't even available for purchase individually, but were

2115
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 2: included in five pound bags of candy that were sold

2116
01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 2: to stores in bulk that were just on a sort

2117
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 2: of variety pack. Reese began selling the cups as a

2118
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 2: free standing item at some point around nineteen thirty five,

2119
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 2: and by some estimates, Reese's cups earned the number one

2120
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 2: spot among Holler Alloween candy brands year after year after year.

2121
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 2: In fact, Hershey sells more than five hundred million dollars

2122
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 2: worth of Riese's annually, and it's a pretty sweet success story,

2123
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:13,560
Speaker 2: considering that Riese's first attempt at a chocolate brand went

2124
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 2: bust after the public didn't take kindly to his chocolate

2125
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 2: covered raisins and nuts. One of the factors that aided

2126
01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 2: in the success of peanut butter cups was actually World

2127
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:25,919
Speaker 2: War Two. As we mentioned it several points during this episode.

2128
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 2: Both sugar and chocolate were rationed during the war, which

2129
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 2: made it tough for candy companies to keep up with

2130
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 2: demands for sweets, but peanut butter was never rationed, which

2131
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 2: meant that Reese's could continue manufacturing of these cups relatively unimpeded.

2132
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 2: And from World War two we go to Japan. Did

2133
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, Heigel that for nearly ninety years, the only

2134
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 2: place you could get Riese's peanut butter cups in Japan

2135
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 2: was on American Army basis.

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Speaker 3: I sure didn't.

2137
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 2: Apparently that's because there's a preservative that isn't allowed in

2138
01:56:55,960 --> 01:57:00,120
Speaker 2: Japan that we used to make them, of course, all

2139
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 2: over the stuff that we make, that's in everything. That's

2140
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 2: like other countries are like, no, you can't. But most recently,

2141
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 2: Walmart branches in Japan, which is something that I really

2142
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 2: want to google and see a picture of because those

2143
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 2: things just so don't go together in my mind, began

2144
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:21,600
Speaker 2: to stock Reese's Peanut butter cups because it's Walmart. And

2145
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy eight, as Reese's Brands celebrated the fiftieth

2146
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:28,440
Speaker 2: anniversary of their flagship product, the peanut butter Cup, they

2147
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 2: introduced Reese's Pieces. This is where we insert the et anecdote,

2148
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 2: which we've already touched on. We didn't need to get

2149
01:57:37,560 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 2: in that again. Now we're about the head of an

2150
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 2: Odds and Ends segment. But some of you may be

2151
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 2: wondering why we haven't really mentioned Eminem's much on this episode.

2152
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 2: I have a funny feeling that Eminem's could potentially be

2153
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:52,400
Speaker 2: its own standalone at some point later on, so shave

2154
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 2: that for later.

2155
01:57:54,560 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 1: Chalky disgusting. Who pines for M and m's really not

2156
01:58:00,720 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 1: even not even the peanut ones.

2157
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:03,520
Speaker 3: I'll give you the peanut ones, but that's because it's

2158
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 3: mostly peanut.

2159
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 1: Actually, I like the almond ones. The almond ones are good.

2160
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 3: This is how I know your associopath. Almond EM and m's. Yeah,

2161
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 3: that's just Jordan almonds. Well, first of all, why wouldn't

2162
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 3: I like Jordan almonds? Second of all, no, Jordan amos

2163
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 3: doesn't doesn't have chocolate in them. It's just like sugary

2164
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 3: mm hmmmmmm.

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01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 1: You know it would be really good. MS cash you eminem's.

2166
01:58:33,440 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, now you're talking right now, Come on and

2167
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 3: see we're spitballing here. Regular eminems aren't bad though, Yeah,

2168
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 3: they are not good. Why would you do that?

2169
01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:45,520
Speaker 1: Did you ever go the M and M store?

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01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 3: Yes, Jordan, I went to No I think think I've

2171
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:57,040
Speaker 3: ever been doing. Times Square is the world's largest Applebee's.

2172
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, didn't you write You wrote a story on that.

2173
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 3: I never saw an editor. I just published it right

2174
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 3: to the back end.

2175
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 1: Wasn't it on Thanksgiving? The day before Thanksgiving? Because that's

2176
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 1: the biggest bar night of the year.

2177
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 2: What was Applebee's in Times square, like on the night

2178
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 2: before Thanksgiving. I should probably read the piece, but I

2179
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 2: know I did at one point, but yeah.

2180
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 1: That was it.

2181
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 3: I was just saying, I'll go to the world's largest

2182
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,600
Speaker 3: Applebee's on the day before Thanksgiving, which is the biggest

2183
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 3: bar day of the year. That's it was this like

2184
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 3: a we tried it. Uh, maybe I don't really remember.

2185
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 3: You know, I was drinking a lot.

2186
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 2: All right, So we've reached our odds and ends section

2187
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:36,560
Speaker 2: of this episode. Why is bubblegum pink? The short answer,

2188
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 2: it was an accident. The recipe was created by an

2189
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 2: accountant named Walter E. Dimer who worked at the Fleer

2190
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 2: Company in nineteen twenty eight. According to gumball dot com,

2191
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 2: Deemer was playing with the recipe of this gum to

2192
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 2: make it less sticky. When it came time to add

2193
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:56,120
Speaker 2: food coloring, pink was the only color he had. Oh yeah,

2194
01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 2: everyone knows that life savers look like a life saver

2195
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 2: as an a flotation device. There's a popular rumor that

2196
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:04,680
Speaker 2: life savers as a hole in the middle as a

2197
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 2: method to prevent choking, thus making it upon in multiple ways,

2198
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:12,000
Speaker 2: but that is just an urban legend and truth. The

2199
02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:16,320
Speaker 2: whole is simply there because it's easier to manufacture. I

2200
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:19,320
Speaker 2: researched Almond Joys for this episode. There was nothing interesting

2201
02:00:19,320 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 2: about them, but I would like to add that an

2202
02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:25,320
Speaker 2: early version of the Almond Brothers band was known as

2203
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:30,360
Speaker 2: the Almond Joys, which is medium funny. Yeah, oh, Pez,

2204
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:32,400
Speaker 2: we got to talk about PEZ. PEZ is getting harder

2205
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 2: and harder to find it. I've discovered it was invented

2206
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:38,720
Speaker 2: in nineteen twenty seven. Is a breath mint for smokers.

2207
02:00:39,160 --> 02:00:42,280
Speaker 2: The name Pez refers to feffer Mint's means is the

2208
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:45,800
Speaker 2: German word. Yeah, it's the German word for peppermint. And

2209
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 2: the first PEZ dispensers were called box Regulars were shaped

2210
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:54,400
Speaker 2: like cigarette lighters and came with notes encouraging smokers to quit,

2211
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:57,720
Speaker 2: and the FlipTop was designed for people to only need

2212
02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 2: one hand in case they were driving. It wasn't until

2213
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 2: the fifties that PEZ, who were eager to expand into

2214
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:08,320
Speaker 2: the US markets, came out with fruity flavors and dispensers

2215
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 2: that were targeted to kids.

2216
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:11,720
Speaker 1: Oh, here I go. You like liquor? Is you did

2217
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:12,400
Speaker 1: this next one? No?

2218
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm gonna I want to get something out of

2219
02:01:14,680 --> 02:01:14,920
Speaker 3: the way.

2220
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 1: First. Okay, I'll read the next one. We'll come back

2221
02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 1: to that one.

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02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you stop. Do you know what the

2223
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:25,960
Speaker 3: most expensive Pez dispenser is in history?

2224
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:34,920
Speaker 1: That's a great question. Is it electric? Now? Guess? Is

2225
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:37,400
Speaker 1: it old? Yes? I don't know.

2226
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:42,600
Speaker 3: It was sold for thirteen thousand dollars. It was a

2227
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:49,080
Speaker 3: custom made red democratic donkey Pez dispenser created as a

2228
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:52,600
Speaker 3: gift for John F. Kennedy, presented to him in Vienna,

2229
02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:56,960
Speaker 3: Austria in nineteen sixty one. After the trip, the Secret

2230
02:01:57,040 --> 02:01:59,680
Speaker 3: Service ordered the return of the Pez dispensers to the company,

2231
02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 3: presumably for safety reasons, and the Pez management gave one

2232
02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:06,800
Speaker 3: away as a gift, which is the one that went

2233
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:10,280
Speaker 3: to auction. I kept the other two in storage. One

2234
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 3: of them has never been sold and remains on display

2235
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:18,040
Speaker 3: in the Pez corporate offices. The second most expensive one

2236
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:24,280
Speaker 3: was a foghorn leghorn one why, sold for just over

2237
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:25,640
Speaker 3: seven thousand dollars.

2238
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:30,400
Speaker 1: Why? Wow? Good? Fine? Yeah, there you go.

2239
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:33,280
Speaker 2: The three Musketeers bars we haven't touched on that in

2240
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:36,560
Speaker 2: this episode. They were so called originally because the package

2241
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:41,160
Speaker 2: originally contained three small candy bars in a single package,

2242
02:02:41,240 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 2: and each was a different flavored nugat. There was a

2243
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:46,040
Speaker 2: chocolate nugat, vanilla nugat, and strawberry nugat.

2244
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 1: However, when sugar was being.

2245
02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:50,120
Speaker 2: Rationed duror of World War Two, the company decided to

2246
02:02:50,200 --> 02:02:52,760
Speaker 2: narrow it down to just a single chocolate flavor, which

2247
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 2: was found to be the most popular, and that's how

2248
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 2: it remains to this day. Nugat was often chosen to

2249
02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:01,280
Speaker 2: be used in candy bars at the turn of the

2250
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:04,400
Speaker 2: century due to his similarity and consistency and flavored to

2251
02:03:04,520 --> 02:03:08,800
Speaker 2: ice cream. It was common and popular to freeze nougat

2252
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:12,040
Speaker 2: based candy bars in order to mimic ice cream when eaten.

2253
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 2: I've seen that on multiple websites, and everybody says it

2254
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 2: tastes very very good. Nugat feels like a slur, maybe

2255
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:26,560
Speaker 2: because we're both Italian and yeah nugat, yeah, yeah, Hey.

2256
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:28,640
Speaker 1: You gotta do the Twizzers one, I know you like Twizzers.

2257
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:33,000
Speaker 1: Each year, about one million miles of Twizzlers are produced,

2258
02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:36,760
Speaker 1: the equivalent of seventy six times the length of the

2259
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:39,880
Speaker 1: Great Wall of China. And you actually do the math

2260
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:40,160
Speaker 1: on that.

2261
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize that the Great Wall of China

2262
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:46,880
Speaker 2: was thirteen thousand miles long big wall.

2263
02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:49,840
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, I don't know.

2264
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:53,000
Speaker 2: Somehow a million miles sounds more impressive than seventy six

2265
02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:55,440
Speaker 2: Great Walls of China, though, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2266
02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:57,600
Speaker 2: yeah for sure. Oh, we got a Simpsons one on

2267
02:03:57,640 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 2: here you go do the Simpsons.

2268
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:01,400
Speaker 3: Butterfingers were actually the follow up to Baby Ruth Bars.

2269
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:05,080
Speaker 3: Their commercials in nineteen eighty eight featured an early version

2270
02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 3: of The Simpsons. Prior to the premiere of their own

2271
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:11,200
Speaker 3: show on Fox, they were already unknown quantity for their

2272
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:15,000
Speaker 3: shorts on The Tracy Omens Show Nobody better layer finger

2273
02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:15,880
Speaker 3: on my butterfinger.

2274
02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:17,360
Speaker 1: I love butterfingers.

2275
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:21,800
Speaker 3: They will fillings though, yeah, oh your fillings why oh,

2276
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:24,720
Speaker 3: because like when you actually bite into them, that peanut

2277
02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:27,960
Speaker 3: combination stuff really just lodges in there.

2278
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:30,040
Speaker 1: But man, yeah, I love a butterfinger. Oh.

2279
02:04:30,080 --> 02:04:32,000
Speaker 2: This next one's got a Titanic fact in it, so

2280
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:32,800
Speaker 2: I gotta take this one.

2281
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:33,160
Speaker 1: Please.

2282
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 2: Hershey's Kisses were produced in nineteen oh seven, and Milton

2283
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:40,720
Speaker 2: Hershey apparently never explained why he chose to give it

2284
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:44,160
Speaker 2: that name to me. Maybe I'm just so used to it.

2285
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:47,320
Speaker 2: I just thought it made total sense. It looks like

2286
02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:48,400
Speaker 2: a little keep its bow.

2287
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2288
02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:51,760
Speaker 2: It just seems to work, but apparently it's a big

2289
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:54,040
Speaker 2: mystery and was a closely guarded secret that he took

2290
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:56,920
Speaker 2: to his grave. But a popular theory as to why

2291
02:04:56,960 --> 02:05:00,480
Speaker 2: they're called kisses is because it was the sounds motion

2292
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:05,200
Speaker 2: of the chocolate being deposited during manufacturing onto the tray.

2293
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:07,240
Speaker 1: So I don't know, there you go.

2294
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:11,400
Speaker 2: But more relevant to my interests, Milton Hershey has a

2295
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:15,240
Speaker 2: Titanic connection. He and his wife Kitty had a deposit

2296
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:17,320
Speaker 2: down for a room on the Titanic for its one

2297
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:20,280
Speaker 2: and only voyage from Southampton to New York in nineteen twelve,

2298
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 2: and they ended up skipping the sailing, although the reasons

2299
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:27,920
Speaker 2: are unclear. I've heard that either Kitty was sick or

2300
02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:30,240
Speaker 2: Milton had business that meant he had to travel back

2301
02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:34,600
Speaker 2: to America earlier than expected. I think the latter is

2302
02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:37,800
Speaker 2: probably the accurate version, because the story goes they took

2303
02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:41,640
Speaker 2: a German ship called the America, who actually was traveling

2304
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:43,640
Speaker 2: in front of the Titanic and sent the ship ice

2305
02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:46,440
Speaker 2: warnings because they said, you know, going through ice fields

2306
02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:49,800
Speaker 2: right now, slow down, which was a warning the Titanic

2307
02:05:50,120 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 2: did not heed.

2308
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually find her.

2309
02:05:52,920 --> 02:05:55,280
Speaker 3: She's really interesting, not just because I grew up outside

2310
02:05:55,280 --> 02:05:57,200
Speaker 3: of it, and most of my family worked there in.

2311
02:05:57,480 --> 02:05:58,920
Speaker 1: One capacitator to that.

2312
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, my cousin worked at the part, my sister was

2313
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 3: a lifeguard at the hotel pool, I worked in the

2314
02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:10,600
Speaker 3: country club kitchen all at various times. And Hershey's the

2315
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:14,720
Speaker 3: reason that the chocolate is not good is because his

2316
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:19,960
Speaker 3: big gambit with this, uh was he originally wanted to

2317
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:25,920
Speaker 3: make caramel, and caramel's much trickier to work with. So

2318
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:30,360
Speaker 3: he attended the World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago, which is like,

2319
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:34,240
Speaker 3: you know, the big World's fair thing, and so he

2320
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:37,240
Speaker 3: gave up on caramel, returned to the Lancaster founded of

2321
02:06:37,240 --> 02:06:41,600
Speaker 3: the Hershey Company in eighteen ninety four, and basically his

2322
02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:50,640
Speaker 3: strategy was to buy cheaper beans and roast them longer

2323
02:06:51,080 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 3: to you know, mask the fact that they were cheap,

2324
02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:59,240
Speaker 3: and this produces the quintessential Hershey's taste, which people have

2325
02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:03,640
Speaker 3: described as chalk like, but you know, it's it's it's

2326
02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:06,000
Speaker 3: He was doing it with a stated goal of democratizing

2327
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:08,120
Speaker 3: it because it was such a luxury item at the time.

2328
02:07:08,440 --> 02:07:11,600
Speaker 3: It was just absolutely not affordable for you know, common

2329
02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:17,600
Speaker 3: folk and using fresh milk and doing cheaper other raw ingredients.

2330
02:07:17,920 --> 02:07:21,800
Speaker 3: UH made it, you know, really affordable. And I don't know,

2331
02:07:21,920 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 3: something about that is still really uh weirdly admirable for me.

2332
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:29,880
Speaker 3: You know, I don't really I don't. I have like

2333
02:07:29,960 --> 02:07:32,160
Speaker 3: no other dog in this fight. I don't give a

2334
02:07:31,960 --> 02:07:34,160
Speaker 3: shit about Hershey or Pennsylvania.

2335
02:07:34,280 --> 02:07:36,640
Speaker 2: But you know that's not what you said during our

2336
02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:39,080
Speaker 2: episode of Food Court when we debated the merits of

2337
02:07:39,160 --> 02:07:40,520
Speaker 2: milk versus dark chocolate.

2338
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:44,400
Speaker 3: That's true, of death, that's true, but you you kind

2339
02:07:44,400 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 3: of sprung that one on me.

2340
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 2: On you.

2341
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:48,280
Speaker 3: I didn't really I thought that was going to be

2342
02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:50,520
Speaker 3: like an actual debate, and I woke up at like

2343
02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 3: six a m. To tape that and it was like

2344
02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 3: you had like a written oral argument out and I

2345
02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:57,040
Speaker 3: winged that whole thing off the top of my dome.

2346
02:07:59,120 --> 02:08:03,400
Speaker 1: Is it really? Yeah? Your research, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: feel like your research was better than mine.

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Speaker 3: I was googling that live. That was very impressed. I

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Speaker 3: brought the passion though you did.

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Speaker 2: I did get angrier than you, which was so pretended

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Speaker 2: to get angry.

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02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:22,760
Speaker 1: I get actually angry. No, I know.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, unlike people in England, the candy loyalists who were

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Speaker 2: pissed off who took to when the fruits were turned

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Speaker 2: in the Star Wars. I'm fascinated by the different names

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Speaker 2: in England for the same candy. We've talked about how

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Speaker 2: the Snickers were Marathon in the UK, Star Wars were

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02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:45,400
Speaker 2: Opal fruits, Twigs were Raider bars, and the UK version

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Speaker 2: of Mars bars are basically an American milky Way, and

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Speaker 2: there's also a European version of the Milky Way, which

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Speaker 2: is basically a Three Musketeers bar. And rather than mounds,

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Speaker 2: the coconut dark chocolate candy bar I think it's dark chocolate.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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02:08:59,240 --> 02:09:02,520
Speaker 2: Stores and can to Australia and the UK sell coconut

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Speaker 2: bars called bounty.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. Which six son of a bitch

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Speaker 1: out there actually likes mounds over all my joy?

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Speaker 2: I like all my joy, but given the choice, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like, why would you not just have the almond

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Speaker 2: or do you hate them both?

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Speaker 1: I just don't like coconut. Oh oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to end where we came in from

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Speaker 2: candy corn to another ancient candy that no one likes

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Speaker 2: but is still inexplicably produced. I'm talking, of course about

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Speaker 2: Neco wafers. They've used the same recipe since eighteen forty seven,

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Speaker 2: the same flavors orange lime, clove, chocolate, cinnamon, licorice, and

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Speaker 2: winter green at one point, so weird, no, I know,

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Speaker 2: I know. At one point they attempted to change the ingredients,

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Speaker 2: but this sparked outrage among their dedicated fans. And you

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Speaker 2: know what, I think that a lot of people taking

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02:09:57,200 --> 02:10:00,760
Speaker 2: a gross candy way too seriously A perfect note to

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Speaker 2: end on me too.

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Speaker 1: I think we've did it. We did it.

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Speaker 3: We have tasted the rainbow twenty one pages of candy.

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Speaker 3: You son of a you six son of a bitch,

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Speaker 3: You've did it.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: My sugar rush has worn off and I am crashing

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Speaker 2: its past one in the morning.

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Speaker 1: My time.

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Speaker 2: Well, Ohio, thank you for bearing with me on this.

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02:10:23,160 --> 02:10:25,440
Speaker 2: You can you can have the most gruesome horror movie

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Speaker 2: of your dreams.

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Speaker 1: For the next episode's off set.

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Speaker 3: It's finally time for me to be fed to the

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Speaker 3: Tutsi beast, and with it I leave.

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Speaker 1: I leave.

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Speaker 3: I leave with the traditional benediction that we give to

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Speaker 3: it as it subsumes us in its tentacled mare. Roughly translated,

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Speaker 3: thank you for listening folks, this has been too much information.

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Speaker 1: The show's supervising producer is Michael Alder June.

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Speaker 3: The show was researched, written and hosted by Jordan Runtgg

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