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Speaker 1: Strange Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua ME Warren,

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Speaker 1: and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you

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Speaker 1: brand new mind blowing content, news exercises, and weird experiments

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Speaker 1: you can do at home, and a lot more. You know,

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Speaker 1: my friend David Weatherly just released a fantastic new book.

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Speaker 1: It's called Monsters of the Tar Hill State, Cryptids and

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Speaker 1: Legends of North Carolina. Of course, that's where I was

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Speaker 1: born and raised, and that's also where David grew up.

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Speaker 1: And guess what, I was extremely honored when he asked

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Speaker 1: me to write the foreword to his book, and here

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Speaker 1: it is. I saw something that scared the hell out

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Speaker 1: of me when I was a child. Around night two,

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Speaker 1: I was at my grandmother's house in the thickly wooded

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Speaker 1: countryside of the newfound community of Leicester in western North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: a dark, cool summer night about nine pm when her dog,

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Speaker 1: a black Labrador named Mandy, went wild, barking ferociously in

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Speaker 1: to see what had Mandy so torn up. The dog

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Speaker 1: was hunched defensively, ears laid back, sharp teeth glaring, her

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Speaker 1: gaze fixed on the small shed out back. Behind the

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Speaker 1: shed was nothing but acres of gardens and trees, finally

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Speaker 1: sweeping upward to a rugged mountain of cliffs and waterfalls,

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Speaker 1: form with piercing red eyes glowing like coals, reflecting the

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Speaker 1: stumbling and scraping my knee scrambling, I burst into the kitchen,

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Speaker 1: the adults in the movie, but finally my father Danny,

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Speaker 1: Mandy was calm and the figure was gone, just as

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Speaker 1: erased all signs. I found nothing. What had I seen

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Speaker 1: When I eventually discovered a book on Bigfoot? And yet

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Speaker 1: it was fresh on my mind, I called a North

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Speaker 1: Carolina monster. My family has been in North Carolina on

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Speaker 1: both sides since the late seventeen hundreds. I was born

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Speaker 1: in Asheville. If you draw a line east from Asheville,

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Speaker 1: in the western part of the state, you passed through

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Speaker 1: Reach the treacherous coast where so many ships have sunk

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Speaker 1: Lost Colony. And finally you almost hit the island of Bermuda,

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Speaker 1: top point of the so called Bermuda Triangle. And those

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Speaker 1: I was immediately excited to learn my friend fellow tar

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Speaker 1: Hill David Weatherly, had written this fantastic book. You see,

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Speaker 1: David is no ordinary researcher of the mysterious. He has

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Speaker 1: something you can't learn or acquire. He has a natural

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Speaker 1: write about these things. They define his lifestyle. It's one

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Speaker 1: one that made ancient Native Americans shudder with fear and awe.

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Speaker 1: It's easy enough to retail accounts of the chilling Beast

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Speaker 1: I doubt you'll find that in any other book. And

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Speaker 1: his account is one hundred percent true, even videotaped. David

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Speaker 1: has a knack for exploring and locating some of the

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Speaker 1: most bizarre things on planet Earth, and he presents them

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Speaker 1: strictly for your consideration, almost like Rod Serling. As you

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Speaker 1: turn the pages of this remarkable and historic book, open

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Speaker 1: your mind. Are these creatures running around on North Carolina

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Speaker 1: waiting to be someday trapped in a cage? Or are

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Speaker 1: they products of something more complex, a symptom of that energy,

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Speaker 1: that force, that indescribable vortex of weirdness around the Tar

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Speaker 1: Hill State. We all still have a lot to learn,

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Speaker 1: and we all have a huge amount of gratitude for

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Speaker 1: David Weatherly, who's so perfectly captured the mind bending tells

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Speaker 1: about to enter your mind. How do you like that?

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Speaker 1: My foreword that I was very proud to write for

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Speaker 1: David Weatherly's new book, Monsters of the Tar Hill State.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at the cover, it's absolutely breathtaking.

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Speaker 1: Sam Sharon, the master artist, he created this cover. And

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Speaker 1: the wilderness or a swamp, and there is this massive, hulking,

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Speaker 1: ferocious black cat of some kind. It's what they called

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Speaker 1: the beast of bladen Borough. You'll hear more about that

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Speaker 1: in a minute. And this, oh, every the hair standing

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Speaker 1: And on the back of the book it says Monsters

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Speaker 1: of the Tar Hill State. North Carolina, one of the

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Speaker 1: original thirteen colonies, has a rich history and an abundance

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Speaker 1: of monsters. Large hairy bipeds have long roamed the state,

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Speaker 1: to Western Carolina's nobby black panthers seemed to lurk everywhere,

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Speaker 1: and the small town of Bladenborough was once terrorized by

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Speaker 1: strange things in the water, the swamps, and even the sewers.

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Speaker 1: So settle in and explore the monsters of the Tar

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Speaker 1: Hill State. This book is two hundred and sixty pages long.

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Speaker 1: The table of contents is divided into four parts. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Part two, Bigfoot Nabby and the Hairy Ones. We have

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Speaker 1: Part four is legends and assorted curiosities. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: things like, yeah, you trust me, you've never heard of this,

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Speaker 1: Well guess what I interviewed David Weatherly And when we

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Speaker 1: come back from our break, Oh yeah, we're gonna dig

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Speaker 1: it possible some of these creatures might actually still be

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Speaker 1: to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Strange

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Speaker 1: your host, the Wizard of Weird and David Weatherly has

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Speaker 1: written a lot of books, including books about monsters of Nevada, Arizona, Alaska, Indiana,

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Speaker 1: monsters of the Tar Hill State. You know, David, you

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Speaker 1: are one of my favorite authors in the entire world.

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Speaker 1: And yet for those who are not familiar with your work, Um,

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Speaker 1: It's really uh, this off the wall citing that this

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Speaker 1: family has and you know the creature, oh gosh. The

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Speaker 1: creatures described as as big as a cow, high as

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Speaker 1: a goat, but it has these giant ears like a mutle.

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Speaker 1: And what happens is the family is roused one night

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Speaker 1: after dark because there's something out around their animal pins.

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00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: And of course it was like a classic movie or something,

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Speaker 1: you know. The father of course grabs his gun and

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Speaker 1: the mother raises a lantin and they go out to

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Speaker 1: try to find out what this thing is and and

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00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: of course, the the kids are intire you know, walking behind,

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00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: so you just can imagine this scene, you know, the

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Speaker 1: family all making their way over because the uh, because

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00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: they been and suddenly there's all this noise and the

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00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: father of course fires off a shot at this thing

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Speaker 1: and misses it and it comes leaping into the white

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00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,959
Speaker 1: so they all get a glimpse of it, and you know,

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00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: it of course runs off, leaving them all completely terrified

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00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: of the whang doodle and it's possible return. And then

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00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: here's another one that I'd never heard of. You know,

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00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: I grew up right next to Weaverville, North Carolina, and

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00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: I've never heard of stick Man. What's up with that?

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00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: Strickman was a more contemporary sighting. You know, there are

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00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: these accounts that have shown up over the years that

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00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: people are describing these entities that are very odd looking,

451
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: to have incredibly long legs. Uh. They moved in this

452
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: very strange manner. You can kind of think of what

453
00:32:54,080 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: everyone knows is a Fresno nightcrawlers ums Californy ONNYA. But

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00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: this one, this one was actually an incident from twenty

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00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: and it was a fellow in Weaverville who was he

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00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: was looking outside. He was looking at a field and

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00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: that was across the street from his house and sports

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00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: looking at this pasture and he sees this bizarre figure

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00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: that is moving. It kind of steps into view from

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Speaker 1: behind a tree. And he says it was somewhere between

461
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: seven and ten feet tall, and that it was extremely

462
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: skinny and stick like, so it made these bizarre movements

463
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: that it kind of crept over towards a cow. Uh.

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00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: And you know, the witness, of course, he runs into

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00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: get binoculars and hoping to get a better look at

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00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: this thing. Uh, and he has he moves this stick figure.

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00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: The stickman seems to notice him at that point, and

468
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: the thing just kind of sprints off into the woods

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00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: and gets away. You have some stuff in here which

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00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 1: is undeniably real, for example, the Cameron Village sewer blob.

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00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: This is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen

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00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: in my life. It's on video. It has been studied

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00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: by scientists. They are debating trying to figure out what

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00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: the heck this thing was. Let's hear that story, David.

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00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 1: This is fairly recent history, Josh, Well, this was only

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00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: back to two thousand nine, So the spring of two

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00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: thousand nine in an area of Raleigh called Cameron Village.

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00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: The residents there they got pretty alarmed because there was

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00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: some work being done on the sewer system. And what

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00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: happened was the fellows who were working on the system,

481
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: they discover something down in those sewer lines that they

482
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: just couldn't explain. There they caught to us on video.

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Speaker 1: As you noted, you can go online and look at

484
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: this thing. It is creepy. It looks like, um, it

485
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: looks like a kind of like a huge ball of

486
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: flesh that is sort of undulating and moving about, and

487
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: it's you see this thing for the first time, you

488
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: think this could be, you know, like a sci fi

489
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: creature or you know, something from a special effects feature.

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00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: But it's not. It's very real. Scientists are are kind

491
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: of stupefied. They've come up with various descriptions or various

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00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: um explanations that really haven't held up. You know, they

493
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: thought at first it was some type of worm. There's

494
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: there's been all kinds of things that they're saying, no,

495
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: this is this is what it is. You know, it's

496
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: a colony of creatures that are all kind of block

497
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: together and working together. But none of the none of

498
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: the explanations have really worked for this thing, and you've

499
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: kind of left with this sense that you have to

500
00:35:54,560 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: wonder what exactly is down in the pipes underneath your house. Right. Well,

501
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: another example of just how real the stories are in

502
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: this book is something that, um, I'm really happy you

503
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: included because it does demonstrate just how truly unique North

504
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: Carolina is. Around North Carolina and part of South Carolina

505
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: is the only place where you will find the venus

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00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: fly trap. And you wrote a whole chapter about that,

507
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: and you know, most people have maybe never thought about

508
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: how weird it would be to be the first person,

509
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, to sort of stumble out into the swamp

510
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: and find such a plan. You wrote about that moment um,

511
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: What can you recount about the venus fly trap? Yeah,

512
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: it's really funny because you know, most people I found

513
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: over the years, most people don't know where venus fly

514
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: traps come from. You know, just as a point of interest,

515
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: you know, ask people at some point uh where they

516
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: think they'll come from. You'll usually get some kind of

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00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: exotic answer. You know, they come from you know, Indonesia,

518
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: or they come from Africa, or you know, they think

519
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: there's some kind of weird exotic plant. You know, they

520
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: are North Carolina and natives and uh, you know, I'm

521
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: sure most people are familiar, but the VNS flytrap is

522
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: a carnivorous plant. Now, even though it's not an animal,

523
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: I could not resist putting it in the boat just

524
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: because well I do include legends in the book too,

525
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: and this is certainly quite a curiosity. It was quote

526
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: discovered in seventeen nine, I think it was when the

527
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: colonial governor wrote a piece about the plant and sent

528
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: it to a botanist in England and describe the thing

529
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: and what a wondrous and strange species it was, you know,

530
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: describing this dwarf plant and how it had this spring traption,

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00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, this spring portion on the front or on

532
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: the top excuse me, that would snap shut, you know

533
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: as something entered it, and that it would digest flesh,

534
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, of insects or whatever. So having such a

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00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: strange thing via North Carolina native, I just could not

536
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: resist adding the venus fly trap to the Cryptus and

537
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: Lessons of North Carolina. All right, Yeah, it really captures

538
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: the essence of how much bizarre stuff is concentrated in

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00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: the Tar Hills state. Well, the clock has almost got us.

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00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: The floor is yours. First of all, check out the

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Speaker 1: website Eerie Lights dot com, that is E R I

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00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: e Lights dot com. You'll find links to all of

543
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: my books and other projects on there, as well as articles,

544
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: past interviews, and just a whole variety of things on

545
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: the website. And of course all the boats are available

546
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: at Amazon dot com, so check those out too, and

547
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: lots more coming. There'll be another entry in the Haunted

548
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: series from me and my fellow author Ross Allison coming

549
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: out very soon. That it's Haunted Prisons. Right behind that,

550
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: there will be another entry in the Cryptic States series.

551
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm not given away which state it is quite yet,

552
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: but people have responded really well to this series. Some

553
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: more of those coming and quite a few of the

554
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: books coming behind behind that. For me, this year is

555
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: um It's going to be a busy year and I'm

556
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. All right. We just touched the

557
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: surface of some of the wild stuff you can read

558
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: about in David's new book Monsters of the Tar Hill State,

559
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: Cryptids and Legends of North Carolina Forward written by me.

560
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: I want to thank David for writing this book. I

561
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: want to thank him for giving me the honor of

562
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: writing the foreword, and I want to thank him for

563
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: coming on the show to talk about it again. The

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00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: book is available through Amazon dot com or go to

565
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: David's website Eerie Lights dot com E E R I

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Speaker 1: E L I g h T s Erie Lights dot com.

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Speaker 1: And I want to point something out here real quick

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Speaker 1: before we go to our next break. Recently I was

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Speaker 1: listening to David Politis. He was being interviewed by George

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00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: Nor on Coast to Coast, a m. And David Politis

571
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: is famous for his Missing four one one series of

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00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: books and even documentaries, and he primarily focuses on people

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00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: who have just sort of gone missing mysteriously, sometimes almost

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00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: in the blink of an eye, uh in in national parks.

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Speaker 1: And when trying to describe just how we might not

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Speaker 1: grasp the full scope of the mystery in national parks,

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00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: he said something to the effect, think of how many

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00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: trees are in the woods all around this planet, and

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00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: yet how many times have you seen a tree fall

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00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: in the woods. We know they must be falling constantly

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00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: every second, and you probably have seen a tree fall,

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00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: But if you consider how often they must be falling,

583
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Speaker 1: it's weird that we don't see that more, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: And thinking about things like that might help you to

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Speaker 1: realize why it's still possible that some of these bizarre

586
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: creatures might be lurking somewhere out there. And David thinks

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00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: David Weatherly thinks some of the cryptos that he covers

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00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: maybe biological things that could end up in a cage someday,

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00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: but he thinks some of them may also be interdimensional.

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00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: He doesn't know how to distinguish necessarily. He just says it, says, hey,

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Speaker 1: these are these are what people report and uh, and

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00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,680
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Speaker 1: M Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua, Pete Warren

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Speaker 1: and David Weatherly brought up Judicola and Judicolor Rock. Now

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Speaker 1: that is spelled j U d A c U l

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Speaker 1: l A. And just as David said, Judicola was this terrifying,

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Speaker 1: monstrous giant that the Cherokee, in particular around western North

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Speaker 1: Carolina said dominated the region. And there are a plethora

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Speaker 1: of stories about him. And there's one cave where he

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Speaker 1: used to hang out at. They call it the Devil's Courthouse.

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Speaker 1: But the most famous marker is this rock, Judicolor Rock,

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Speaker 1: And just as David said, it's a rock that's covered

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Speaker 1: in mysterious petroglyphs. These are just rock carvings and nobody

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Speaker 1: knows what they mean. Nobody has ever really supposedly deciphered them.

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Speaker 1: And just as David said, you know, he said, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you've been there, Well, yes, I have been there

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Speaker 1: many many times. And as a matter of fact, nineteen

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Speaker 1: years ago, in two thousand two, I came up with

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Speaker 1: my own quirky theory about what these bizarro markings on

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Speaker 1: Judicolor Rock might actually be. And I want to share

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Speaker 1: that with you real quick. Uh. At some point you

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Speaker 1: need to go to this website that I created about

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Speaker 1: this theory, Judicolor Rock dot com. That's j U d

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Speaker 1: A c U l l A judah color Rock dot com.

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Speaker 1: And what you will find is, you know, you'll see

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Speaker 1: these pictures. There's one picture of the rock that was

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Speaker 1: taken in Gosh, I think it was the thirties. And

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Speaker 1: when I first saw the rock, and I mean, people

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Speaker 1: have speculated and said, is this a star map? You know?

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Speaker 1: Is it just a regular map showing how the land

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Speaker 1: was divided? Like there's every theory, theory, theory you can imagine.

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Speaker 1: I looked at it and the markings immediately struck me

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Speaker 1: as somehow like oddly familiar, and I couldn't place it.

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Speaker 1: And then I realized, hey, a lot of this stuff

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Speaker 1: looks like micro organisms. Because you may or may not know.

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Speaker 1: When I was like eighteen years old or maybe younger,

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Speaker 1: I wrote a children's book called The Lonely Amiba and

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Speaker 1: it was a big, long, rhyming book with colorful illustrations

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Speaker 1: by Tim Peterson. And so I've looked at a lot

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Speaker 1: of micro organisms. And so I I got pictures, you know,

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Speaker 1: these close ups of these different carvings off of Judicolor Rock.

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Speaker 1: And here's what I wrote. I'm just gonna read it

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Speaker 1: to you from the website. A new theory could Judicolor

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Speaker 1: Rock rewrite the history of technology. According to traditional history,

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Speaker 1: man first saw microscopic creatures in September of sixteen seventy four.

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Speaker 1: These observations were made by Dutch scientist Anton van lowen Hook.

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Speaker 1: That means, however, many of the figures on Judicolor Rock

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Speaker 1: closely resemble microscopic organisms, and observation that has never before

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Speaker 1: been reported. According to some archaeologists, the markings on the

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Speaker 1: stone maybe two thousand to three thousand years old. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this pre dates Van lewin Hook by thousands of years.

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Speaker 1: In August of two thousand two, Lemur, that's my team

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Speaker 1: investigated Judicolor Rock. At that time. Our theory regarding Judicola's

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Speaker 1: possible connection to microbiology was formally solidified. Upon comparing Judicola's

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Speaker 1: markings too microscopic forms. A possible relationship quickly became undeniable.

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Speaker 1: But what could this mean? Was a microscope actually invented

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Speaker 1: thousands of years earlier, perhaps by a civilization long forgotten

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Speaker 1: and years past. Was Earth visited by astronauts from another planet?

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Speaker 1: And did they leave a message for us? Humans are

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Speaker 1: the only creatures on Earth that are aware of micro organisms. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: this is an ear mark of an advanced civilization. Perhaps

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Speaker 1: ancient astronauts left a sign for us that could only

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Speaker 1: be understood once life on this planet evolved far enough

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Speaker 1: to develop suitable technology. Are the marks on Judicolor Rock

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Speaker 1: a clear sign that we have been visited in the

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Speaker 1: distant past. The artists could have produced conventional images trees, bears,

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Speaker 1: the moon, et cetera. However, such normal figures are not found. Instead,

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Speaker 1: did they produce pictograms of microscopic life, the most simple

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Speaker 1: and basic form of life throughout the entire universe. And

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Speaker 1: then I have these examples here of for example, like

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Speaker 1: here's a picture from the rock next to a picture

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Speaker 1: of an amiba, or a picture of a die tom

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Speaker 1: next to a marking that looks like a die tom

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Speaker 1: on the rock. Or there's a bacteria and there's a hydro. Okay, now,

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Speaker 1: you might say, oh, come on, are you telling me

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Speaker 1: that thousands of years ago some Native Americans were able

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Speaker 1: to create a microscope in this rural part of the

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Speaker 1: North Carolina wilderness with which today I mean this place

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Speaker 1: is out in the sticks at the base of a mountain.

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Speaker 1: It's not too far from Western Carolina University. But you know,

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Speaker 1: listen to this North Carolina leads Uh. Let's see that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: North Carolina produces about sixty percent of all of the

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Speaker 1: scrap mike uh in the entire country. Now, mica is

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Speaker 1: a is a very clear material. It's a clear mineral

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Speaker 1: that it. I mean, you can break it off in

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Speaker 1: a little transparent sheets and they look a lot like

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Speaker 1: microscope slides. And I found this video on YouTube where

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Speaker 1: a guy takes a couple of little pieces of plastic

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Speaker 1: which are very much like little thin slices of transparent mica,

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Speaker 1: and he just puts a drop of water between them,

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Speaker 1: and he gets some water out of a puddle, and

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Speaker 1: he and he uses the drop of water between the

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Speaker 1: two pieces of plastic as a lens, and he's able

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Speaker 1: to see microscopic organisms Protozola. It's the same size as

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Speaker 1: Amiba's and euglinas. Okay, all he's doing is taking a

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Speaker 1: drop of water and putting it between two pieces of

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Speaker 1: plastic and and using that to magnify this stuff. I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you, in a certainly possible that a Native American

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Speaker 1: at any point in history would have had the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to take a couple of little pieces of micah that

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Speaker 1: are clear and thin and put a drop of creek

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Speaker 1: water or whatever between them and start seeing micro organisms.

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Speaker 1: It could be done. I really believe it could be done,

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Speaker 1: and this is worth looking into. So at least go

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Speaker 1: to the website judaicolor rock dot com and check it

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Speaker 1: out and let me know what you think. J U

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Speaker 1: d A c U L l A judaicolor rock dot com.

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Speaker 1: Because this actually could re rewrite, rewrite history. Or they

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Speaker 1: could just be more evidence of a of an ancient

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Speaker 1: visitation by some kind of aliens. So it's a wild theory,

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Speaker 1: but I came up with that one. So let's see

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Speaker 1: what you think. Okay, I want to read you an

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Speaker 1: email real quick here if this comes to me from Rachel,

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Speaker 1: and Rachel says, uh, this is the subject line says

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Speaker 1: good fortune tone, and she says I'm just a simple

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Speaker 1: Midwest farm gal from Iowa. And then she goes on

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Speaker 1: to say I listened to the good fortune tone and

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Speaker 1: here are my personal results. Day one, I received a

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Speaker 1: check in the mail for several thousand dollars that I've

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Speaker 1: been waiting on for the past eight months. Day two,

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Speaker 1: my farm landlord offered to pay for filled maintenance that

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Speaker 1: she refused to pay for a few days prior. She

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Speaker 1: wrote me a check for a few thousand dollars for

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Speaker 1: the maintenance required. Day three, I put a quick advertisement

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Speaker 1: and Facebook for my business, and three clients, two of

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Speaker 1: these are new, have contacted me for work within a

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Speaker 1: span of two hours. I am looking forward to see

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Speaker 1: what else manifests in my reality. Thanks a Butch for

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Speaker 1: sharing this. It is truly amazing technology. Best wishes, Rachel.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that message. Rachel, and I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy that you are having success like so many

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Speaker 1: play the good fortune tone again, as I often do

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Speaker 1: on this show. I don't always do it. Sometimes when

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Speaker 1: I don't do it, people say, why don't you play

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Speaker 1: the good fortunate? Well, I I'm gonna play it, but

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Speaker 1: I want to remind you and I touched on this

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Speaker 1: so much success with this thing that I actually took

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Speaker 1: it and expanded it and uh, if you want to

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Speaker 1: posted the original good Fortune Tone there for you as

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Speaker 1: well as these new extended versions. And what I find

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm floating. I feel absolutely fantastic. It's

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Speaker 1: hard to explain. Uh, when I was composing this and

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Speaker 1: putting it all together, I felt like I was hypnotizing myself.

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Speaker 1: I would have to snap out of it. So I

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna enjoy that. But anyway, here you go.

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