1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, single. 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: Best idea and a little bit of history here what 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: we've done at Bloomberg surveillance and a zillion years ago 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: Bloomberg on the economy. When we started this effort, we 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: didn't do politics, we didn't do international relations, and some 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: of our statistical people said there was a real interest 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: in it, and so I very carefully tested years and 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: years ago doing what in America we call international relations 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: over in foreign policy would be another phrase over in Europe. 10 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: And I was thunderstruck by the response. It's really become 11 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: a heritage of the program. And when you have Trump 12 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Putin Trump, you want to call up people that you 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: know with experience on this relationship. I started with the 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: wonderful Marshall Goldman of Wellesley and Harvard years ago, otherworthies, 15 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: but no one has been more effective than Angeli's stent 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: will get to her in a moment. Here is Richard 17 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: Portis of the London Business School, with all of his 18 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: expertise on Russia. 19 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: Putin's got the cards, partly because Trump is willing to 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: let him play them, and he's playing Trump. But Trump 21 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: seems to think that's just fine, and that maybe he'll 22 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: get a Nobel Peace Prize out of this. But as 23 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: I say, I think the Europeans are not going to 24 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: play ball with that kind but a kind of a 25 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: deal that Putin has in mind, and that's going to 26 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: be a big area of conflict between the europe and 27 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: the United States potentially if Trump tries to pursue it. 28 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: Richard portis there of the United Kingdom of Great Britain 29 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: of the London Business School. Angelos Stent was my first 30 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: call the day of the invasion of Ukraine. Her book 31 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: Putin's World was my book of the year. I made 32 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: my book of the year in February, that's how important 33 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: her book is. It's just a great one volume read 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: of the foundational beliefs of Vladimir Putin. Angelus Stent of 35 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: the Brookings Institute of Georgetown University. 36 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 4: On this historic day, I would say, we're more or 37 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: less all living in Putin's world at the moment, right 38 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 4: we're waiting to see what he will say. I think 39 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 4: you have to understand that Putin is not interested in 40 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: a ceasefire. Now he said that in principle he's interested 41 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: in it, but he still believes that Russia is winning 42 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: and he wants more concessions from Ukraine. President Trump obviously 43 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 4: would like Putin to accept a ceasefire. He has said 44 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 4: that what they're going to talk about is territories, land, 45 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: the nuclear power plant. I'm assuming he means the biggest 46 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 4: one in Europe in Upprarisia, which the Russians now occupied, 47 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: and then. 48 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: He takes ACCTS. 49 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 5: Now. I don't really know what he means by assets, 50 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 5: but I would think that Putin's going to string him 51 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 5: along on the ceasefire. What Putin's interested in is the 52 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 5: restoration or hes Russian relations. 53 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: Angel's stent of the Brookings Institute, and then Richard portis 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: before as well. Again, look to all of Bloomberg's coverage 55 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: here with the Henry Winter and others here, decades of 56 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: experience in Moscow and of course in Eastern Europe. Now 57 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: on Ukraine, on Russia, on the United States, on your 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: community across the nation. 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