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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greed Eggs. Welcome back in.

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Speaker 3: It's another hour here at the Fox Sports Radio Studios

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Speaker 3: Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 2: No Jason Smith. Tonight.

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Speaker 3: Rich Hornberger in his stead our buddy on loan from

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Speaker 3: the wonderful world of San Diego where you hear him

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Speaker 3: in the mornings part of our iHeart Family, and you

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Speaker 3: hear him Saturday mornings is part of Countdown to kick Off,

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Speaker 3: Jim and you ask Rich just about anything. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just Taylor made for all of the good things,

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Speaker 3: you know, food like he's they do bar things and

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Speaker 3: all sorts of gastronomic chaotic things down there in San Diego.

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Speaker 3: And week to week, I'm sure there are physicals to

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Speaker 3: be had. So I heard you and Frostburg talking about

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Speaker 3: your old team, the Chargers, you think all taking a

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Speaker 3: physical and trying to literally walk on.

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Speaker 4: If I get a call from Jimmy Harbab, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: let him know that if the bar I need a

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Speaker 4: clear is just having a pulse of sixty beats per

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Speaker 2: I could clear that bar.

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Speaker 4: So if that's my physical, I could get out there

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Speaker 4: and look, I don't want to I don't want to

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Speaker 4: under estimate or pretend like what these offensive linemen are

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Speaker 4: asked to do at the NFL level is easy by

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Speaker 4: any stretch. It's a lonely feeling when a team knows

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Speaker 4: that they've got your number up front and they can

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Speaker 4: start picking you apart with scheme and getting you know,

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Speaker 4: one on one block. That was a rough game against

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Speaker 4: the Jacksonville Jaguars. That was a tough loss for the Chargers,

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Speaker 4: especially when you look at a down year for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to pounds and you know Denver winning close

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Speaker 4: ones left and right. You kind of feel like his

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Speaker 4: others you're gonna drop. You know, it's just, oh man,

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Speaker 4: what a squandered opportunity. And it all came down to

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Speaker 4: those two major injuries between Alt and Slater.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about it a lot, the problems from the

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Speaker 3: training room. They went away for a year and here

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Speaker 3: they circle right back right. It's one of those things

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Speaker 3: with the Chargers, with the Ravens, we've chronicled probably the

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Speaker 3: last half decade plus where they've lost an an ordinate

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Speaker 3: number of starts to injury. So it hits again with

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Speaker 3: those two big players Slater and all on the offensive

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Speaker 3: line and the trickle down effect they're in with the squad.

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Speaker 3: You also hear Riches part of the San Diego State

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Speaker 3: football five and one, eight and two overall, first in

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Speaker 3: the Mountain West Conference. One of your many hats that you.

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Speaker 2: Wear, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, they sit alone atop the Mountain West. You know,

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Speaker 4: a group of five masterpiece is what this overall season

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Speaker 4: has looked like. They've had a couple of losses and

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Speaker 4: tough ones on the road. They lost a Washington State

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Speaker 4: They just they squandered what looked like a good and

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Speaker 4: they got beat soundly on the Hawaiian Islands against the

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Speaker 4: University of Hawaii. That was their first ragin date. They

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Speaker 4: just beat Boise State in the driving rain in San

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Speaker 4: Diego through most of the game is kind of spotty

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Speaker 4: in the second half, but the run game wasn't. They

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Speaker 3: It's one of those kind of games, is what it

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Speaker 3: looked like. It sounded like. Got to hear a little bit.

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Speaker 3: different excitement levels, of course, but the driving rain really

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Speaker 3: There's another run play and another run play. But hey,

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Look, you know, and I give a lot of credits

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinators in general who win whatever it is, face

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Speaker 4: And you know, we saw a lot of that Saturday,

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Speaker 2: It was kind of like the shoe was.

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Speaker 4: On the other foot Jacksonville who just found the key

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Speaker 3: want to see what the cost of an egregious offensive

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Speaker 3: was Keantay George with thirteen for the Lakers. Luca nine

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Speaker 3: Steelers and Cincinnati Bengals game, a very publicized act, you know,

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Speaker 3: a disgusting act to steal from Joe Buck all those

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Speaker 3: we've seen the proliferation, an epidemic, as it were, of

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Speaker 4: I have no message of someone spits in your face,

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Speaker 3: There you have it, right, get your thrown out, But look,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what's what would be worse? Right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what did what did that all add up to?

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Speaker 2: Being five hundred and seven thousand dollars?

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Speaker 4: That's an expensive mistake, very.

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Speaker 3: And the suspended for a game, Not that the Bengals

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Speaker 3: of do you bother bringing Joe Burrow back off the

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Speaker 4: Man, you know I'm gonna I'm gonna start kind of

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Speaker 4: just I don't I don't get it. I've I've never

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Speaker 4: if we're talking about one on one, like what can

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Speaker 4: Like just me against you? What can I do to

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Speaker 4: He can't. He obviously will get fined himself if he

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Speaker 4: advocates for violence. But you're playing a violent game, in

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Speaker 4: a gladiatorial sport amongst alpha men, You're gonna get what's

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Speaker 4: coming to you. And here's your problem. If you're Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 4: it's not over. So kind of a kind of a

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Speaker 4: dumb move. It kind of I mean more than a

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Speaker 4: Because how many times have we seen, especially between the

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Speaker 4: Do you remember that Vontes Burrow Brown?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is this is the the problem.

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Speaker 4: you know we've agreed to long ago, Like there are

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Speaker 4: certain things even international conflicts amongst the hottest of rivals,

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Speaker 2: That's the same thing in football.

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Speaker 4: Now obviously the state are much lower you know, there's

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Speaker 2: But Chase, he broke a rule.

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Speaker 4: You know, this is all fairs in love and war,

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Speaker 4: except when you take it too far.

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Speaker 2: And he took it too far.

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately, the the outcome of those type of actions

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Speaker 3: for everybody. Now, do you need more of a scorecard

435
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Speaker 3: had to tell who's actually on your team year to year?

436
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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

437
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Speaker 3: Is it more difficult to keep and retain players than

438
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Speaker 3: it was once upon a time. Absolutely, but again you're

439
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Speaker 3: you're also being paid a king's ransom in this you

440
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: always were, but it's even larger with the way these

441
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Speaker 3: prize pools for lack of a better term, roll up

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Speaker 3: with the college football playoff system.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and to be clear, in ole Miss's defense, if

444
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Speaker 4: it is true, what the sourced reports are that we've

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Speaker 4: now heard from multiple different avenues for with a variety

446
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Speaker 4: of different levels of you know, claimed veracity, you know,

447
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 4: I mean, some people are saying, hey, this is the

448
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: god's honest truth, and some are saying, hey, just because

449
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 4: there's been whispers around the water cooler doesn't mean that

450
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 4: this is necessarily necessarily true. But the report is that

451
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 4: if Lane Kiffin is not locked into Oxford for a

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Speaker 4: long term on track, then ole Miss will not let

453
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Speaker 4: him coach in the college football playoff. Now, saying that

454
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 4: or potentially inferring that to people who then take that

455
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Speaker 4: over to Twitter x or write articles with that information

456
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 4: is one thing. And actually enacting and actually putting you know,

457
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 4: literally money where your mouth is literally uh, and and

458
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Speaker 4: dealing with all of the potential consequences and complications.

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Speaker 2: Of of of.

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Speaker 4: Ponying up and forcing him off the field for some

461
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Speaker 4: of the most important games ever played by your school.

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Speaker 2: Ever.

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Speaker 4: I mean that is, those are two completely different things.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, if let's let's operate in a world

465
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Speaker 4: Miikey where this is true. What they're saying is true.

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Speaker 4: All these source supports are accurate. Link Kiven has been

467
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Speaker 4: handed and ultimatum and unless ole Miss can lock him

468
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Speaker 4: down for the long term, he will not coach the

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Speaker 4: college football playoff. Who do you think blinks first in

470
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 4: this game of chicken? Do you think link Kiffin acquiesces

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Speaker 4: and signs a long term deal with ole Miss and

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Speaker 4: maybe it's the top deal in college football, or maybe

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Speaker 4: it's something less than that. Or do you think ole

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Speaker 4: Miss decides, Hey, if he doesn't want to sign, screw him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I would say the school blinks because they've never had

477
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Speaker 3: this success and they'll have enough of a telethon going

478
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Speaker 3: with the major boosters to the program. We're like, how

479
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: do we lose this guy? We're having unpressle ride success.

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Speaker 3: How could you let this go?

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Speaker 2: Right?

482
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Speaker 3: Kirby Smart, according to the quick Search, makes about thirteen.

483
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Speaker 2: Million a year.

484
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Speaker 3: Then we get to Lincoln Riley Signetti with his new

485
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Speaker 3: deal and everything else where we're looking at like eleven

486
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Speaker 3: million or thereabouts, Ryan Day at maybe twelve based on

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Speaker 3: some of the reports. So that's the ballpark we're looking

488
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Speaker 3: at here. Currently he's minus three hundred to be the

489
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Speaker 3: next coach at Florida from the last odds I saw

490
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Speaker 3: plus three seventy five at LSU.

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Speaker 2: But all of that to say.

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Speaker 3: You know, you've got a machine rolling right for the

493
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Speaker 3: last five years, double digit wins, the monster success this

494
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Speaker 3: year and he's the big fish, which means the cost

495
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: of poker goes up. Well, do you want to you

496
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Speaker 3: want to be in the room at the at the

497
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Speaker 3: big table, or do you want to be, you know,

498
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Speaker 3: at the local holiday inn playing a five to ten game? Right?

499
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: I mean that's what you have to up side. Am

500
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Speaker 3: I in the World Series of Poker? Or am I

501
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: hiding in the back room? And if you're if you're

502
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Speaker 3: all miss you you have to just you know, bite

503
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Speaker 3: the bullet and get after it. Because for Lane Kiffin, look,

504
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: he's he's a well traveled guy, right, He's got a

505
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Speaker 3: long history. We know his story from hell when he

506
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: was like twenty three years old at this point from

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Speaker 3: the coaching room, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So like all of that come. Yeah, right, So

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Speaker 2: he's not a guy that is.

510
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Speaker 3: You know, beholden to one school or in place of employment,

511
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: right and trying to tug at his heartstrings. That's only

512
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Speaker 3: getting you so far. Open up the check book.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise he's gone, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. And and

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Speaker 2: honestly I'm also with you.

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Speaker 4: If if he doesn't give them anything cement or concrete

516
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Speaker 4: and they make a college football playoff, I do think

517
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Speaker 4: that Ole miss blinks first as well. I think they

518
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Speaker 4: would happily keep him on the sideline and potentially do

519
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Speaker 4: something they haven't done certainly.

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Speaker 2: In a long long time.

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Speaker 4: Down there in Mississippi and not risk the horrible and

522
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Speaker 4: I mean horrible pr backlash that they will have to

523
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Speaker 4: endure if they actually, uh, you know, are willing to

524
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Speaker 4: see this game of chicken all the way through and say, hey,

525
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: you know what you're gonna You called our bluff and

526
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 4: guess what we weren't bluffing. You are going to be

527
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Speaker 4: watching these college football playoff games from home.

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Speaker 2: You know who's gonna win.

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Speaker 4: You know, the war that would be waged between the

530
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Speaker 4: fans and the college, especially if they lose at some

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Speaker 4: point earlier than they think they should have earlier than

532
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Speaker 4: they think they would have if Lane Kiffen was on

533
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Speaker 4: the sideline. Well, Lane wins, Lane wins, and then Lane

534
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: will win again when he signs a monster deal with

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Speaker 4: one of these many desperate college football programs who would

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Speaker 4: be desirous of his coaching abilities. So yeah, I agree

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Speaker 4: with you there, and I'll also agree with you that

538
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: the tumbleweed of college football moves on from Ole Miss.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he sticks around for another season. When

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Speaker 4: you have, you know, something nearing unprecedented rise at a

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Speaker 4: program over a short period of time, and there are

542
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 4: this many opportunities waiting out there where you can play

543
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 4: each opportunity off of them.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's make no mistake.

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Speaker 4: There was no stake made visiting Florida n LSU and

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Speaker 4: quick succession. You know, if you're following plane tracking apps

547
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: and some of the reports that came out based on

548
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: the whereabouts of Layla Kiffin, Wayne's ex wife's private plane,

549
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: you know, it's very obvious what's going on. He's trying

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Speaker 4: to play a couple of schools against each other, including

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Speaker 4: the one he's coaching at right now, and he's either

552
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Speaker 4: going to take the biggest paycheck or the best opportunity

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Speaker 4: or potentially both.

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Speaker 3: Well as we look at it, I mean, you got

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Speaker 3: the I've got the coaching staff up here. I mean,

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Speaker 3: do we want to reach out to Joe Judge for

557
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 3: comment or Charlie Weiss Junior or some of the other

558
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Speaker 3: guys on staff to see how they're feeling. I'm feeling

559
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Speaker 3: a little plucky here coming down the stretch of the

560
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Speaker 3: college football season. It's it's fun. You got the email

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Speaker 3: address for Ole Miss and the office telephone number. I'd

562
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Speaker 3: be curious what the decision tree is as you go

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Speaker 3: down looking for the operator to get through to one

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Speaker 3: of these guests at Ornberger where you find Rich find

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Speaker 3: you it's time to check in with Steve Desager for

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Speaker 3: a news update.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Steve, Hello.

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Speaker 8: Lebron James in La making his season debut after the

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Speaker 8: bad back minute ago till halftime, Utah leading the Lakers

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Speaker 8: sixty four to sixty. James so far four points, one

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Speaker 8: of three shooting in his sixteen minutes on the court.

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Speaker 8: The other late game has Phoenix at Portland. That one's

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Speaker 8: never going to end because of course these late games

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Speaker 8: on Tdays, they.

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00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: Don't start till eleven ten Eastern time. People, Peacock, Baby,

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00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: come on, what is.

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Speaker 8: Going on here? Orlando and San Antonio each with home wins.

588
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 8: Boston got a victory at Brooklyn one thirteen to ninety

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Speaker 8: nine Jalen Brown twenty nine points. Detroit won it's eleventh

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Speaker 8: straight game, one twenty to one twelve at Atlanta, ending

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Speaker 8: a Hawk's five game win street Kay Cunningham twenty five points.

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Speaker 8: Tennis sist Milwaukee superstar Janis Antennacumpo could miss up to

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Speaker 8: two weeks with a stray groin. The Spurs Stefan Castle

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Speaker 8: has a strain hip. This was the Rookie of the

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Speaker 8: Year last season. He'll be reevaluated in one to two weeks.

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Speaker 8: Already San Antonio's victor women Yamas out with a strain calf.

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Speaker 8: There was a double header of college hoops at Madison

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Speaker 8: Square Garden. Number five Duke a winner over Kansas seventy

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Speaker 8: eight sixty six. Earlier, Michigan State rold Kentucky eighty three

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Speaker 8: sixty six. Number twenty one Arkansas survived against Winthrop eighty

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Speaker 8: four eighty three. In the new college football playoff rankings,

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Speaker 8: the top three stayed the same, led by Ohio State

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Speaker 8: George Is up to number four, Oklahoma up to number

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Speaker 8: eight in the country, then number nine Notre Dame and

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Speaker 8: number ten Alabama as of now would barely make the playoff.

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Speaker 8: Number thirteen Miami would, as well as ACC champion Tulane

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Speaker 8: ranked twenty fourth in the country, would get a playoff

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Speaker 8: spot as the best of five. The best of the

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Speaker 8: group of five. That means that BYU and Utah, ranked

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Speaker 8: eleventh and twelfth in the country as of now, would

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Speaker 8: not get In college football selection, Sunday is December the seventh.

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Speaker 8: Bengals wide receiver Jamar Chase is out this weekend. His

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Speaker 8: one game suspension was upheld. NHL wins for the Islanders

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Speaker 8: in Tampa Bay. The Angels tonight traded alfielder Taylor Ward

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Speaker 8: to Baltimore for pitcher Grayson Rodriguez. Pitcher showed to Imnaga

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Speaker 8: accepted a qualifying offer to stay with the Cubs, so

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Speaker 8: he'll earn twenty two million dollars next year. Also accepting

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Speaker 8: these qualifying offers to stay, brewers pitcher Brandon Woodruff, Yankees

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Speaker 8: outfielder Trent Grisham, and detroit enfielder Gleabar Torres, Spain and

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Speaker 8: Belgium earned spots in next summer's World Cup. Spain is

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Speaker 8: undefeated and it's last thirty one matches also in as

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Speaker 8: European qualifying finish today. Switzerland Scotland in for the first

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Speaker 8: time since nineteen ninety eight, and Austria is going to

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Speaker 8: the World Cup for the first time since nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 8: US men's soccer is in automatically as co hosts next summer.

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Speaker 8: The Americans had their final game of the year tonight

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Speaker 8: in exhibition in Tampa, and the US won five to

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Speaker 8: one over Uruguay. It was for nothing late first half.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, Steve Rich, do you think if this

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Speaker 3: was the last of the college football playoff rankings. The

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Speaker 3: committee would be being questioned as to a bias against

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Speaker 3: the state of Utah.

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Speaker 2: No, just questioned in general. Yes, just agree with us.

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Speaker 2: Agreed with all of the above. Goodness, gracious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm actually curious what you think real

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Speaker 4: quick here, Mike, about the fact that a group of

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Speaker 4: five team gets an autobid. I know there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of people out there who do not like this rule chain.

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Speaker 2: I'm personally in favor of it. I have to admit bias.

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Speaker 4: I work for a group of five football team, as

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Speaker 4: the San Diego State Aztecs radio color analysts. I would

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Speaker 4: love to see them play in a college football playoff game,

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Speaker 4: and that would appear to be one of the only

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Speaker 4: routes outside of getting an at large bid if they

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Speaker 4: remained undefeated and knocked off some national powers early in

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Speaker 4: their season. What have you.

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Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on all this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, well, we can do this as a

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Speaker 3: larger conversation about twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: But I agree wholeheartedly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to have a path, even if

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Speaker 3: it makes people uncomfortable. There's got to be a path

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Speaker 3: for these other conferences to have a seat at the table,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be uncomfortable. There's going to be

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Speaker 3: teams to where it becomes the math problem. And this

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Speaker 3: is why I always have fun when they have to

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Speaker 3: do the explanations as people start asking about the rankings

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Speaker 3: of individual teams. So this and what about this? Right,

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Speaker 3: your wins against Penn State based on what the committee

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Speaker 3: said today are still being held in great high regard

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Speaker 3: regardless of whether they've dropped off right, so versus other

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Speaker 3: teams that have had similar fate to where they're like,

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Speaker 3: oh no, now they're five hundred teams like well wait,

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Speaker 3: wait a minute, wait, like how are these?

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Speaker 2: How are these? Uh?

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Speaker 3: You know, how do you rectify that? So we'll have

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Speaker 3: that larger discussion coming up about twenty minutes because coming

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Speaker 3: up next we're going to talk about frauds and no,

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Speaker 3: not credit card scams or anything like that. The holidays

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Speaker 3: are coming, so be careful out there with your information.

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Speaker 3: But no, no, no, we're going to talk about the NFL,

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Speaker 3: who you buying and which teams at the top that

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Speaker 3: people are starting to get chesty about. Are you still

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Speaker 3: a little reticent to jump on board the proverbial bandwagon?

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Speaker 3: He's rich Orberger how my garment, and.

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Speaker 2: Then be sure to catch live editions of The Jason

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Speaker 2: Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,

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Speaker 2: seven pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me,

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Speaker 3: Mike Carmon, Rich Hornberger in for Jason Smith. Tonight, we're

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Speaker 3: at halftime here in Los Angeles, the Jazz seventy one

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Speaker 3: to sixty seven lead over the Lakers. We'll keep you

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Speaker 3: aprized to that talk about that game as it comes

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Speaker 3: down to the wire late in the wee hours of

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Speaker 3: the morning East Coast. But we're talking about the NFL

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Speaker 3: and the fun and excitement as we head into week twelve.

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Speaker 3: Still a lot of chaos to come, a lot of

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Speaker 3: new quarterbacks being introduced, So for your fantasy purposes, it's

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Speaker 3: absolutely chaos. But when we talk about the division leads

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Speaker 3: and where we're at in the playoff picture, Rich, where

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Speaker 3: we've got a Kansas City Chiefs team sitting at five hundred.

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Speaker 3: We've got the Indianapolis Colts and Daniel Jones coming out

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Speaker 3: of a bye week at eight and two. That's the

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Speaker 3: next battle for said Chiefs squad. You've got the Eagles

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Speaker 3: seemingly in the fall of malcontentedness, discontent, a lot of

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Speaker 3: little whispers in the background of what's going on, but

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Speaker 3: they continue to roll up W's winners of four straight.

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Speaker 3: It becomes the all, right, which of these teams do

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Speaker 3: you believe in? I think you lead with the Rams

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Speaker 3: and then you work from there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. In terms of the NFC side, the

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Speaker 4: Rams kind of feel like they've separated and eyeball test right.

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Speaker 4: It just feels like on the NFC side that the

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Speaker 4: most trustworthy team we've seen. You know, that win over Seattle.

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Speaker 4: It was hard to come by, and that was a

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Speaker 4: game where they intercepted Sam donald by four times and

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Speaker 4: they won by a slim margin, I think, down to

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Speaker 4: a miskick by Jason Myers in order to seal that

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Speaker 4: victory for the Rams. So the Seahawks had a chance

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Speaker 4: to win that game and advance their rank in the

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Speaker 4: NFC Conference playoff race, and maybe we'd be having a

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Speaker 4: different discussion if they did. But yeah, the NFC, I

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Speaker 4: do feel like the Rams have separated a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, I'm I'm becoming with Brockback more of

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Speaker 4: a believer in San Francisco. I think with Dan Campbell

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Speaker 4: calling the plays in Detroit. Maybe less of a believer

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Speaker 4: in the Lions. Ye if I were going to label

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Speaker 4: a team as a fraud, and I'm not even sure

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Speaker 4: if it's fair, say it green Bay. I don't really

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Speaker 4: trust green Bay.

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Speaker 3: I just got right off at the top of the division.

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Speaker 3: The Bears, well, well yeah, okay, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: I really do like Ben.

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Speaker 4: Johnson though on the turnaround that Caleb Williams had, But

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Speaker 4: on the NFC side, I really I don't trust Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: They feel out of sainc. The offensive line has had struggles.

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Speaker 4: I think losing Craft was a huge problem at tight end.

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Speaker 4: Who would you call a fraud on that division?

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Speaker 3: On that way, I would take the check out of

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Speaker 3: the North because with Jacob's banged up, Jordan Love's been ordinary,

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Speaker 3: and they're plan last year of Hey, we got a

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Speaker 3: lot of guys that average four hundred plus receiving yards.

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Speaker 3: They were all on that graphic that you don't have

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Speaker 3: a true number one just when you need to get it.

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Speaker 3: Craft was as much as you had that and the

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Speaker 3: Jacob's in the run game. And while I'm enamored with

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Speaker 3: what the Bears are doing and I'm enjoying every minute

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Speaker 3: of it. It's also you're going into a very difficult

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Speaker 3: stretch of games coming up, and there's still a bit

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Speaker 3: herky jerky in terms of getting through.

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Speaker 2: Run.

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Speaker 3: Game has been good, Caleb has been better. You never

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Speaker 3: turned the ball over and he's not taking the sacks.

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Speaker 3: All of those things we've discussed. But when it's all

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Speaker 3: said and done, I mean, you're living and dying by

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Speaker 3: two minute drills and generally that doesn't play for a

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Speaker 3: full season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and you're absolutely right. It's like murderers

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Speaker 4: row up next, Steelers, Eagles, Green Bay. Why he have

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Speaker 4: sandwiched in between the Browns? Who I mean, defense.

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Speaker 2: Get after you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So yeah, it's no easy road.

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Speaker 4: I think it's fair. And you know what, I'm glad

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Speaker 4: that you were able to set your allegiance aside, something

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Speaker 4: that your normal co host is seemingly incapable of doing

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Speaker 4: at times when you guys have discussions about the Jets,

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Speaker 4: Mets otherwise.

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Speaker 2: But but it's, uh, yeah, it's it's.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, there's something about Ben Johnson that has

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Speaker 4: me convinced they're they're special.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about them a little bit more we'll do

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Speaker 3: the AFC later on. Let's talk some more NBA next

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Speaker 3: here on Fox