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Speaker 1: of cut to It podcast. What's going on? Steve? Hello,
Speaker 1: how are you? David? First off, don't be giving my
Speaker 1: government a name. That's your name, Paul, But I ain't
Speaker 1: ask you to reveal it again. There you go with
Speaker 1: that that word. I don't. I don't call you Stevan.
Speaker 1: I almost called you. It's almost said it with the hards.
Speaker 1: But but Steve, v if you're gonna say my birth name,
Speaker 1: say van, I don't, I don't. I don't see. I
Speaker 1: ain't ask you to tell my whole name. So if
Speaker 1: you're gonna say my whole name, share right almost again?
Speaker 1: Hard are almost Steven Smith Senior? Now we got that
Speaker 1: out there, David. Okay, Gerard Jim Rome. Right now, the
Speaker 1: question is who's Jim? Who's Chris? Tell you tell me?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure? Okay, I like it AnyWho? Um Man,
Speaker 1: I've been able to uh watch you on Thursday night.
Speaker 1: You always doing a great job as usual. I think that.
Speaker 1: Why do I sense a little bit of glad handed
Speaker 1: you slide the hand? Are you over here? And do
Speaker 1: I look like David Blaine? I'm not slight of hand
Speaker 1: since one of my magician Yeah, so can I give
Speaker 1: you your flowers? Why you why you can still smell?
Speaker 1: I'm not when you're You're tough one to please today,
Speaker 1: trying to get domistic Paul understatement. So watching you on
Speaker 1: Thursday nights doing a great job as usual? Question, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1: Question for you, is there a comparison you have between
Speaker 1: live TV and game day? That's a good question. I mean, no,
Speaker 1: preparation is still preparation. It's slightly different. Obviously, you get
Speaker 1: a paper cut on TV. You can get your leg
Speaker 1: broken on game day. Slide different, right, a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit. You gotta let's see you know Disney
Speaker 1: band aid anesthesian surgery, right, So it's a huge difference
Speaker 1: with the injuries, but it's still preparation, a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of watching films, sometimes too much film. You
Speaker 1: can also watch I can get in the data with
Speaker 1: so much film and and numbers and facts that you
Speaker 1: start to lose the perspective and your your mind is
Speaker 1: going faster than your mind. You're trying to process, and
Speaker 1: you get numbers and start to you start to put
Speaker 1: names together with the wrong teams and and numbers with
Speaker 1: this and point seven and point this, you know, a
Speaker 1: great examples talking about So we're talking about Tom Brady
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks and talking about, um, what's
Speaker 1: going on with him in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And
Speaker 1: and I said that one of the things that he's
Speaker 1: had to do, which is he's done for the last
Speaker 1: fifteen plus years, is in New England. His philosophy was
Speaker 1: got look short first and allow the deep passes to
Speaker 1: develop as an outlet, which is totally different. But that's
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. That's why he's the goat. But now he's
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay and Bruce Arians kind of offense is
Speaker 1: look deep first, short second. And just to give you
Speaker 1: this illustration is Tom Brady's last year in twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots. I believe it was roughly
Speaker 1: forty one forty four thousand, one hundred and fifty three
Speaker 1: yards yards per temp. I don't have the I can
Speaker 1: look at my phone and tell you, but yards per
Speaker 1: temp is an average of six point seven or six
Speaker 1: point six yards per attempt. Last year under Jameis Winston
Speaker 1: Bruce arians offense with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers two thousand, nineteen,
Speaker 1: five thousand, one hundred and something yards, so a little
Speaker 1: bit below to hundred yards average yards per temp eight
Speaker 1: point six, huge difference, right, just to kind of show it.
Speaker 1: Now in twenty Tampa Bay Buccaneers under under Tom Brady
Speaker 1: right now, seven point four yards per temp. Still below, right,
Speaker 1: but eat under pressure Tom Brady is average, and I
Speaker 1: believe a little bit above five yards per temp under
Speaker 1: pressure barely seven seven point seven yards per temp. So
Speaker 1: obviously not being pressured, not having you know, looking down there,
Speaker 1: you can stare things down let long developing play. So basically,
Speaker 1: those are some of the things that I experience and
Speaker 1: deal with in the TV world now as a football player. Hey, bro,
Speaker 1: they're running this coverage. I don't care if they listened.
Speaker 1: Throw me the ball that that that's the difference in
Speaker 1: game day. In playing football, you allow the numbers to
Speaker 1: give you an understandable what plays the run. In TV,
Speaker 1: the numbers give you an understanding of why a team
Speaker 1: is good, indifferent, or can't get out of their own way.
Speaker 1: So you gave me a good correlation between game day
Speaker 1: and live TV. Has there been a time when you're
Speaker 1: on live TV where maybe you had an instance where
Speaker 1: you you kind of wanted that play back. Well, maybe
Speaker 1: you made a mistake and you kind of wanted that
Speaker 1: play back. Man, live TV sucks because sometimes you just
Speaker 1: get stuck or you go over on the segment and
Speaker 1: you have a good point and you have to skip
Speaker 1: over that segment because now we don't have that time.
Speaker 1: So generally an hour show is really only forty seven
Speaker 1: forty six minutes of content because you have commercials. You
Speaker 1: gotta pay for the advertisement. So um, But there's also
Speaker 1: a bit some times on live TV. Brother been on
Speaker 1: that struggle bus, struggle moment I got I'm an listen.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just you're having a bad day. Through the
Speaker 1: magic I can't say the magic of television, through the
Speaker 1: magic of podcasting. We've got a clip queued up. I guess,
Speaker 1: so maybe one I guess potentially you want to have
Speaker 1: bad Let's let's let's see if we can get our
Speaker 1: production folks to run that back the production because they
Speaker 1: haven't been the greatest of franchise uh since obviously damn
Speaker 1: damn remi uh Dan, I can't even speak right now.
Speaker 1: The Marino at the end is what does it for me?
Speaker 1: I was stuck. It was late that night though I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot you some bail. It was late that night,
Speaker 1: but that was like one o'clock in the morning. It
Speaker 1: seemed like it was really late. It doesn't matter. I
Speaker 1: was stuck. I get it. I mean, do you know
Speaker 1: about Dann Marino's name? Dan Marino? Now now I got
Speaker 1: But here's the sad poy. Just laugh, bro, She's like
Speaker 1: two days. I was still jacked up two days after that.
Speaker 1: But I was like, I'm just it's when you want
Speaker 1: back though, right, want back? Bro? I didn't cry, but
Speaker 1: you run it back. I run it back in my mind,
Speaker 1: just like like you had to drop pass like I
Speaker 1: mean being at like, man, I wish I had that.
Speaker 1: You just you just screwed up my day. You were
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Are you hard? Are
Speaker 1: again hard? Are again? Enough? Enough with this dollars? But seriously,
Speaker 1: it's it was. I was jacked up for about two days.
Speaker 1: I was I screwed that one up. Yah yeah you
Speaker 1: got you got, you got more positives than than you
Speaker 1: got or whatever. Man. Hey, so tough crowd. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: who we got next? Alright? Coming up on the Cut
Speaker 1: to It podcast, We've got Colleen Wolf, a host for
Speaker 1: NFL Network who works Thursday Night football, a number of
Speaker 1: NFL Network shows. A native of Philly and just all
Speaker 1: around friend of the podcast, Colleen Wolf. Cut to the podcast. Alright,
Speaker 1: So our first segment, Colleen is called get Iced Up
Speaker 1: the Random Ice break with questions. They're selected at random
Speaker 1: by Smitthie. So you know how he is. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's coming. I don't know if you follow up.
Speaker 1: And we've got some creative stuff for you this time.
Speaker 1: So Smithie go ahead and give Colleen the first one.
Speaker 1: Buckle up, Buttercup, here it goes. Oh my god. Alright,
Speaker 1: not be nervous, but just maybe towards the right now.
Speaker 1: You are if you had the power to shrink anything
Speaker 1: and take it with you, what would it be And why, Um,
Speaker 1: it would be just one thing? Yes, one thing? All right?
Speaker 1: Can I can I reanimate it after I get to
Speaker 1: where I go? Can I like, if you shrink something,
Speaker 1: and then can I unshrink it after I get to
Speaker 1: wherever I'm going? Judges, what do I? Judges saying you're good?
Speaker 1: Thumbs up? Okay, cool, cool, cool, coole. I'm putting John
Speaker 1: in my pocket. That was all that was really inappropriate
Speaker 1: for John? Yeah, I know. Well then I was like,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say my dogs, but then if I don't,
Speaker 1: if I bring my dogs and that John and that's
Speaker 1: the thing, and so I wanted to but I wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure I could unshrink John after I shrank him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the answer. Okay, I will text John
Speaker 1: after to let him he's getting shrunk and playing in
Speaker 1: your pocket? Is her husband? Everyone? So relax, all right?
Speaker 1: What is your favorite Christmas present you've ever received? Oh?
Speaker 1: I got a couple of years ago. There's this picture
Speaker 1: at NFL Films of I think it's Betty Grable, um
Speaker 1: when she was like a young actress with a leather
Speaker 1: football helmet on and a football and it's like this
Speaker 1: glam shot and I saw it at NFL Films and
Speaker 1: I fell in love with it and somehow John figured out,
Speaker 1: like what where to get it and surprise me with it?
Speaker 1: And I love it. I haven't frame in my office.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I just got an email about do we
Speaker 1: still any photos? Um, yes, I think I think John
Speaker 1: definitely case. That's really cool. That's great John. John is
Speaker 1: a good dude. Man. This homework. Have you seen the
Speaker 1: show Neked and Afraid? No, it sounds terrible, Okay, so
Speaker 1: on it's so on Discovery. Um, Discovery Chi was actually
Speaker 1: a great show. So we're gonna kind of play that.
Speaker 1: But it's called Clothes and Afraid because we have morals. Yes,
Speaker 1: you uh, you can only have three items to bring
Speaker 1: with you to an uninhabited place. What are your three items?
Speaker 1: And before you answer, would you like me to tell
Speaker 1: you a mine are to kind of help you because
Speaker 1: you don't seem like you watched the show, so it's
Speaker 1: you need negative phrase. Basically, they take people and they
Speaker 1: just they disrobe, they don't have any clothes, and then
Speaker 1: they give them survival kick and they like they get
Speaker 1: you get one item, you get one or two items
Speaker 1: and that's it. So mine is my list is I
Speaker 1: get a firestarter, a tent, and a huge knife slash machete?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, those are good. Um, now you cannot use
Speaker 1: any of those three. Go I got a knife. A
Speaker 1: knife is a great idea. All right, fine, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: because now you can't because you have anything that has
Speaker 1: a sharp edge. Just yes, you can, just not a
Speaker 1: knife or machete, because that's mine. We're not sharing a
Speaker 1: box cutter. Okay, box cutter. How many busts are gonna
Speaker 1: be at an uninhibited island? You on an island by yourself?
Speaker 1: Who knows? Yeah, alright, fine box cutter. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with that. How about matches? Is that too close to
Speaker 1: fire starter? No? That's that's that's a match. Okay. The
Speaker 1: key is going to be the like the kindle or whatever.
Speaker 1: And you gotta watch. And I'm bringing a raft with
Speaker 1: rose attached to it so I can get the hell
Speaker 1: out of there. So dead, so you are, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I'm get to ask the questions. Listen, I get the win.
Speaker 1: I get the win either way. So taking away the
Speaker 1: box cutter and I'm replacing it with a spear. There
Speaker 1: we go. You she just earned her shelf. Three extra
Speaker 1: days of life right there, like a six point because
Speaker 1: she's gonna die. She she gave drink salt water. She
Speaker 1: has no pot to cook it in, so all that
Speaker 1: stuff you learn when you're watching this show. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I was watching Castaway the other day. So can I
Speaker 1: just get some moisture from coconuts? Yes? Because because you
Speaker 1: will never see anybody. But yet she's tanning, right exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm give me some channing oil and a volleyball for
Speaker 1: a friend. Okay, all right, all right, a few more.
Speaker 1: When was the last time you gotten pulled over the speeding.
Speaker 1: I've never gotten pulled over for speeding, but I have
Speaker 1: gotten pulled over for not putting my turn signal on
Speaker 1: early enough to change lanes in the middle of the
Speaker 1: night when I was going to a radio station job
Speaker 1: that I had and it was very very shady. M hmm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in Philly. Huh. Yeah, but like, how is that
Speaker 1: even a thing? There was nobody on the road dead
Speaker 1: of night, and I got pulled over for not turning
Speaker 1: on my turn signal because early enough. Yeah, you were
Speaker 1: in Philly, correct, And you're probably in a sketch neighborhood, right,
Speaker 1: A little bit a little bit. Okay, you are not
Speaker 1: African American, but my windows were tinted and they thought
Speaker 1: you were trying to get dope. That's what the score.
Speaker 1: This is where if Philly comes out of her Cardi
Speaker 1: b or Megan Stallion. You know, I feel like my
Speaker 1: allegiances have wavered. Uh. And I really really love Megan
Speaker 1: Stallion like I love her And I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on with Cardi and Offset lately. I haven't been
Speaker 1: like two into the drama. But you know, I did
Speaker 1: listen to a couple of Cardi songs yesterday, But when
Speaker 1: I was listening to Whop, I was really into the
Speaker 1: Megan Stallion part. I don't know that I qualified. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the Yeah, I'm not quiet. All right, Let's
Speaker 1: let's get down to who Colleen is, what, what is her?
Speaker 1: What's what is she made of? What makes her tick?
Speaker 1: So here we go. Where are you from in a
Speaker 1: place you call your hometown? Well, shoot, that's Philly. Now.
Speaker 1: I grew up outside of Philly, um like forty five
Speaker 1: minutes outside, but went to school in Philly, have a
Speaker 1: house in Philly. Still, Philly is my city. I love
Speaker 1: everything about it, the good, the bad, all of it.
Speaker 1: It's such an awesome place, and the people are so
Speaker 1: very real there. They will tell you exactly what they're
Speaker 1: thinking immediately, and they're all lunatics and mostly related to me. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: how did your hometown impact and shape your perspective on
Speaker 1: how you see the world today. Well, I think Philly
Speaker 1: is really kind of it's it's a rough around the
Speaker 1: edges kind of city. It's very blue collar. It's very
Speaker 1: hard working, and that was something that was like instilled
Speaker 1: in me from the minute I was able to get
Speaker 1: a job. I got a job and I was working,
Speaker 1: and I was working multiple jobs at any time, like
Speaker 1: usually usually I had three jobs at a time. And
Speaker 1: then that stopped when I went to college and I
Speaker 1: just had one job. But it was you know, it's
Speaker 1: such a it's a city where everybody really really has
Speaker 1: to scrap for to get ahead and for everything that
Speaker 1: they want. And I think that that has like really
Speaker 1: shaped the way that I kind of look at things.
Speaker 1: I over prepare for every single assignment, no matter what
Speaker 1: the heck it is, and that is just something like
Speaker 1: my work ethic was built. I think from Philly. You
Speaker 1: it's funny as you over prepare, but you also worry
Speaker 1: yourself much. Yeah, and you think that is obviously it
Speaker 1: is a great quality of you. But how do you
Speaker 1: handle relaxing? Yeah, so that's a great question. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of the the worrying, um and the
Speaker 1: sort of anxiety that I get around work is because
Speaker 1: I I just don't want to, like, I'm so competitive
Speaker 1: and I'm so competitive with myself and I don't want
Speaker 1: to let anybody down. That's like with me, that like
Speaker 1: so any I don't want to ever be the weakest
Speaker 1: link basically on any of these shows. I just want
Speaker 1: us to, you know, do as as best we can.
Speaker 1: And so like I feel like I spend so much
Speaker 1: time preparing and worrying, and then once the show starts,
Speaker 1: I can actually relax. And then once the show is finished,
Speaker 1: I can really relax. And that is like my sweet spot. Basically,
Speaker 1: when everything is done and I get through it and
Speaker 1: we do it and it's good and it's great, then
Speaker 1: I can just chill and then I can just kind
Speaker 1: of like coast, have a beer, like watch a show
Speaker 1: and just zone out it. I can relate to that
Speaker 1: because it's also you have the internal standard to write
Speaker 1: like you you don't want to let know write it down.
Speaker 1: And I definitely feel that, but it's you also don't
Speaker 1: want to let yourself down, right, Yeah, And and like
Speaker 1: any time that you know you've been in a spot
Speaker 1: where you realize, oh my god, like I should have
Speaker 1: known that, I, you know, I should have prepared for that.
Speaker 1: That sort of I think changes you a little bit.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think for me, I what I
Speaker 1: need to do is sort of like dial it back sometimes,
Speaker 1: but it's just like so programmed within me that like
Speaker 1: that's just part of my fabric. So growing up, how
Speaker 1: did you believe that the world worked? God, I didn't
Speaker 1: know anything when I was growing up about the world.
Speaker 1: I was like oblivious to a lot of things. Uh.
Speaker 1: I was very much in a bubble growing up. Um,
Speaker 1: And I don't think I realized a lot of things
Speaker 1: until I went to college and moved into the city
Speaker 1: and I met different people that grew up in different
Speaker 1: circumstances and heard their stories, and it's all really started
Speaker 1: to click and hit me. And I think kind of
Speaker 1: looking back on that now, I realized how isolated I
Speaker 1: was growing up and how much I didn't know, and
Speaker 1: how much I've really changed and grown as a person
Speaker 1: since then, how can you say you are isolated? But
Speaker 1: yet when you look at Philly, like here in Philly,
Speaker 1: which is Philly is Pennsylvania. Then you've got New Jersey,
Speaker 1: which depends kind of like Charlotte, which is depending on
Speaker 1: which route you take, you could be in Philly or
Speaker 1: be in New Jersey with the a few left turns
Speaker 1: and about a mile you know, a mile each way.
Speaker 1: So how could you really be isolated in such a
Speaker 1: city that has so much diversity? I know, it's it is.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because yeah, you can get you get to
Speaker 1: like a ton of different states in no time in
Speaker 1: the Northeast. Um, but where I grew up, I grew
Speaker 1: up in a suburb that was like mostly white, and
Speaker 1: it was I feel like the suburbs around Philly are
Speaker 1: are pretty isolated and within their own bubbles. And even
Speaker 1: when I go go back home now and I see
Speaker 1: all of my friends who haven't left, and I talked
Speaker 1: to them and I hear some of the things they say,
Speaker 1: it it hits a lot different now. It changed my
Speaker 1: world view when I went to college and and met
Speaker 1: a lot of different people from different backgrounds, and it
Speaker 1: was an amazing experience and it was life changing. We
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Speaker 1: I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother.
Speaker 1: Cut to a podcast dot com. What did you daydream
Speaker 1: about when you're in high school? Well, when I was
Speaker 1: in high school, I was a figure skater, so I
Speaker 1: got it out of her. I knew I could get it.
Speaker 1: I't like to talk about it. No, Yeah. I started
Speaker 1: skating when I was like six years old, and I
Speaker 1: loved it and I got really good at it, and
Speaker 1: so I was I skated before school. Like I would
Speaker 1: get up at four am and go to the rink
Speaker 1: and turn the lights on and like It was great
Speaker 1: because if you were the first one at the rink,
Speaker 1: then you could choose the music, and that meant like
Speaker 1: TLC was on, can you imagine this little skinny little girl.
Speaker 1: I skate into tchecial and four in Philly and like,
Speaker 1: mind you, I like cut all my hair off too,
Speaker 1: so it's like short pixie cut. And my coaches were like,
Speaker 1: you are way too much of a tomboy. So they
Speaker 1: sent me to ballet classes because they were like, you
Speaker 1: need to learn how to be graceful. They were like,
Speaker 1: you have the athleticism, you can lend these jumps like
Speaker 1: you have all like the power, because I was like
Speaker 1: all I was all legs when I was skating, like
Speaker 1: I was all I want to do was skate faster
Speaker 1: than everybody, jump high or spin better, just like I mean,
Speaker 1: I was fueled by anybody else that was on the ice.
Speaker 1: I was gonna outskape them. And then my coaches were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: all that's great, but you're like presentation sucks. So they
Speaker 1: were like, here's a bunch of dresses, and of course,
Speaker 1: like that triggered me because I was like, why don't
Speaker 1: have to wear dresses? And they sent me to a
Speaker 1: ballet teacher. Um, and I had to take all these
Speaker 1: like serious ballet classes for years, and you know it
Speaker 1: ended up. I guess I I got more graceful, who knows.
Speaker 1: But when I was in high school, that's all, that's
Speaker 1: all I thought about. Like I would skate before school,
Speaker 1: after school competitions, Like I didn't take jim class because
Speaker 1: I got credits for going ice skating. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: I was really in it. Did you enjoy any other sports?
Speaker 1: I ran track for a little bit my freshman year
Speaker 1: of high school, but then it was it was kind
Speaker 1: of in conflict with skating, and my parents were spending
Speaker 1: a lot of money. I had a choreographer at one point.
Speaker 1: Like it was so I mean, it's ridiculous when you
Speaker 1: look back on it. But like the price of skates,
Speaker 1: you have to get them custom made, you have to
Speaker 1: buy the boot and the blades separately. You have to
Speaker 1: take them to special places to get sharpened. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is a lot. And my parents would take me
Speaker 1: at four o'clock in the morning and sit at the
Speaker 1: rink in the freezing cold and just watch me skate around.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's let's skip over that part this week.
Speaker 1: Just too much. I know, I know, I was very intense.
Speaker 1: Anything that I do, I just lock in. Let's let's
Speaker 1: talk about your TV career because a lot of people
Speaker 1: like I get the opportunity to work. I would say,
Speaker 1: I don't know that everyone knows that you guys are
Speaker 1: co workers only. Yeah, yeah, so we're coword. This is
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf. She's the host NFL Networks Rising Star. She
Speaker 1: can host anything she and she loves sports. She knows
Speaker 1: about sports. But you didn't always have the confidence that
Speaker 1: you appear that you have the confidence now and see
Speaker 1: I used that keyword appear. She does a lot of
Speaker 1: eternal dialogue that we're gonna get into later. But um,
Speaker 1: how did you get your shot in broadcasting? And when
Speaker 1: I say broadcasting, I'm not talking about TV. I'm just
Speaker 1: talking about in the business and the business of broadcasting. Well,
Speaker 1: this was like something that I had no idea I
Speaker 1: even wanted to do. This was not like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I want to grow up and be on TV like
Speaker 1: that was not really uh the thing like I was
Speaker 1: going to go to art school. You're gonna go to
Speaker 1: art I was gonna say, what what was it? Then? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was like so okay, So I was into figure
Speaker 1: skating and art. I was really cool, and she wears contact,
Speaker 1: so I'm pretty sure she had. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: saying she She says she was really cool art and
Speaker 1: ice skating, so I'm like, you know, she and she's
Speaker 1: super smart, so I'm just going out there. She may
Speaker 1: she makes being intelligent cool. Well, thank you, like listen
Speaker 1: nerds around the world. So I loved art and I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I applied to all art schools. I
Speaker 1: was going to go to school for either illustration, graphic
Speaker 1: design or art education, and then, like last minute, I
Speaker 1: decided to go to Drexel in Philly, and I hadn't
Speaker 1: applied to their art school directly, so they were like, okay,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't take any art classes this year.
Speaker 1: Just do something, you know as take all of your
Speaker 1: electives this year, reapply, and then you can start your
Speaker 1: art program next year. So they were like, just take
Speaker 1: something like communications. So I was like okay, great, and
Speaker 1: I was like this is really easy and kind of fun.
Speaker 1: At Drexel, you have to you go to school for
Speaker 1: six months and then you work for six months, and
Speaker 1: you do that three times, so you get to have
Speaker 1: three internships like three co ops, and so when it
Speaker 1: came time for me to do my first one, because
Speaker 1: I stuck with communications, I was like, this is pretty great.
Speaker 1: I'll just do some art stuff on the side. So
Speaker 1: it came time to do my first uh co op
Speaker 1: and through Drexel, all they really offered were really lame
Speaker 1: ones like you know, working in pharmaceutical eight like marketing
Speaker 1: spots and maybe you can get a job at like
Speaker 1: QBC or you know, home shopping network. And I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I don't really want to do that. But
Speaker 1: my dad, um it doesn't really follow sports, has never
Speaker 1: really been a big sports fan, but he was friends
Speaker 1: with one of the women that was on a sports
Speaker 1: talk radio show and Phil Radio on in the morning,
Speaker 1: and so I got an internship. They're just randomly and
Speaker 1: it was like that sounds like a fun thing to
Speaker 1: do when you're in college, work at a radio station.
Speaker 1: So I went and I walked in and my first
Speaker 1: day I saw these four people that were on the
Speaker 1: morning show and their chemistry that they had together. They
Speaker 1: were having so much fun, they were talking about sports,
Speaker 1: they were like ripping on each other and it was
Speaker 1: such a great atmosphere and I was like, this is
Speaker 1: exactly what I want to do. How do I do this? What?
Speaker 1: What do I? What? Is of course exactly we're getting
Speaker 1: molded for it. Yeah, how it started, How it's going
Speaker 1: exactly Like you had a meme and you didn't even
Speaker 1: know it. So it sounds like you fell in love
Speaker 1: with maybe the atmosphere, but you you largely it sounds
Speaker 1: like you didn't have the most interest in team sports.
Speaker 1: It was you fell in love with that atmosphere being
Speaker 1: at that sport station. I loved the atmosphere and I
Speaker 1: was competitive, but I hadn't like unlocked that yet in
Speaker 1: terms of like other team sports, Like I played softball
Speaker 1: growing up, and like I said, I tried to run
Speaker 1: track for a little bit, but that's not like a
Speaker 1: team sport. And it wasn't until when I was in
Speaker 1: high school and the Sixers were in the playoffs with
Speaker 1: Iverson and like to Kimbay Mtumbo and Eric Snow and
Speaker 1: randomly I I stumbled upon one of the games and
Speaker 1: I was like I started watching the game and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this is oh what is
Speaker 1: that big No no exactly, and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, wait a second, and I started listening to
Speaker 1: the announcers and it was like in the middle of
Speaker 1: the series and I'm watching and I had no idea
Speaker 1: what was going on, but I I was so intrigued
Speaker 1: by it. And in a bubble in Philly. My family
Speaker 1: was not into sports like we did not It was
Speaker 1: not a house where there was football on on Sundays
Speaker 1: like it just that wasn't how I grew up, which
Speaker 1: is wild now that I think about it. I every
Speaker 1: time I got like, you know, on Thanksgiving or like yeah,
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, I'll go home and I feel like, you
Speaker 1: know where, why is it the TV on? There are
Speaker 1: games happening. What are we doing here? Like everybody get
Speaker 1: it together? So so when I started watching, you know,
Speaker 1: more games and getting into more sports, and once I
Speaker 1: started working at the radio station, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I gotta I gotta really like figure this out.
Speaker 1: So I this is like super embarrassing. Um. I went
Speaker 1: out and I got Basketball for Dummies, Football for Dummies
Speaker 1: for Dummies, and I read all four books and it
Speaker 1: took notes, and I every single day would read the
Speaker 1: sports section on like Philly dot Com, which was like
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Daily News and Philadelphia inquir and and I
Speaker 1: just like, little by little, I started and I would
Speaker 1: watch the games, and I started and listen to sports
Speaker 1: talk radio station all the time. Once again, I just
Speaker 1: like locked in and became obsessed with trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out and obsessed with kind of like winning almost
Speaker 1: at it. And it's like, how do I become the
Speaker 1: best at this? And and I just it was it
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. Like then I was in college and I
Speaker 1: was doing this uh internship where I was waking up
Speaker 1: at four o'clock in the morning to go and do
Speaker 1: the morning show. And you know, thinking back on it now,
Speaker 1: it's like it was almost like it replaced figure skating
Speaker 1: for me. It was something I needed and I latched
Speaker 1: onto it just like I did skating, and I just
Speaker 1: I made it every part of my life. And then
Speaker 1: I just from there as I as I started to
Speaker 1: understand it more and more and talk to more people
Speaker 1: about it and ask questions and learn and listen, I
Speaker 1: I started to finally kind of break in and I
Speaker 1: got a lot of behind the scenes and then that
Speaker 1: sort of led to the stuff on camera. What were
Speaker 1: some of your duties in the beginning that you had
Speaker 1: to do? Oh my god, like you know you're you're
Speaker 1: getting coffee for people. I remember so Hugh Douglas was
Speaker 1: on the show a couple of days a week and
Speaker 1: he was like in the building where the studio was.
Speaker 1: There was in the garage like a car wash on
Speaker 1: one of the levels, and he was like, hey can
Speaker 1: you take these, like during one of the breaks, Hey
Speaker 1: can you take this down to the guys for my car?
Speaker 1: And I was like, sure, no problem, and like I thought,
Speaker 1: he meant like driving his car down and it was
Speaker 1: a Bentley and I don't even know if he knows
Speaker 1: the story. I got in it and I was freaking out,
Speaker 1: Like I it didn't occur to me that I could
Speaker 1: just like drop the keys off to the guys down
Speaker 1: there and they would like drive it down. And I
Speaker 1: get in and I was like, oh my god, how
Speaker 1: do I work this machine? What is this? And it
Speaker 1: was so and I remember it turns in the in
Speaker 1: the parking garage to like get down to the next level,
Speaker 1: and I was sweating so much. And then and I
Speaker 1: remember the steering wheel just being so heavy, like it
Speaker 1: was so hard to turn because like I just I
Speaker 1: always had total piece of crap cars growing up, right,
Speaker 1: I got back like five minutes later, and everybody was like,
Speaker 1: where the hell have you been. In the beginning, when
Speaker 1: I first latched on in that morning show, they would
Speaker 1: have me go out and do ridiculous bits and then
Speaker 1: call into the station with it. So one of the
Speaker 1: ones I remember the most is uh, when Teo was
Speaker 1: having his contract dispute when he was in Philadelphia, they
Speaker 1: had me go to this city corner um. It was
Speaker 1: a fifth and Market, so it's like a busy intersection
Speaker 1: in Philly. And this was when Teo was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't have enough money to feed my family,
Speaker 1: and so they had me set up this giant They
Speaker 1: brought down this big, giant plastic kind of container, and
Speaker 1: I set up a collection for Teo. And I had
Speaker 1: a like salvatition army bell, I wore sandwich board, I
Speaker 1: had like a megaphone, and I basically people were coming
Speaker 1: by all morning long. They were throwing their lunches in,
Speaker 1: they were throwing like pens in for him to sign
Speaker 1: a new contract. Somebody threw some type of like lupercint
Speaker 1: in there for him. There was a lot of really
Speaker 1: interesting things that ended up popping up in the collection
Speaker 1: for Teo. I've been an intern before, but I never
Speaker 1: ever had to do something that I think that's worse
Speaker 1: than the um I always using this as an example.
Speaker 1: It is probably bad, but it's my podcast with um
Speaker 1: SO around um Tex season Liberty Liberty people. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: they got the statue of Liberty guy who generally looks
Speaker 1: the same complexion. There's some stuff right why pretty say
Speaker 1: place does it varies? And always when we drive by
Speaker 1: looking at my kids, I say, you don't pay attention
Speaker 1: to school. That's what your ass is gonna be doing.
Speaker 1: Ride there? Now? When you getting paid? Was this for
Speaker 1: college credits? So for me it was, oh my god,
Speaker 1: none of those stuff. I had none of the that's
Speaker 1: that's all unpaid, all unpaid work. The picker is the
Speaker 1: liberty task guy gets paid like when you are unpaid
Speaker 1: because I worked for the Charlotte Hornets, I was unpaid intern.
Speaker 1: So they have you do all that crap. You gotta
Speaker 1: go get coffee for somebody, you gotta contact, you gotta
Speaker 1: go run stas to the coach and staff. But what
Speaker 1: she's having to do like having to get embarrassed listen,
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's worth it telling you didn't even
Speaker 1: notice g used to work for the Hornets, and his
Speaker 1: job for a little bit he would give at halftime
Speaker 1: the stats, not to Bernie Bickerstaff, not to Bickerstaff's son
Speaker 1: j B. Not to JB. Bickerstaff, not to Brown. He
Speaker 1: got to give Michael Jordan's the statue. So his life
Speaker 1: wasn't that I had nothing like right, but she was.
Speaker 1: She was basically dressed up like a Salvation Army kid. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They had me do the most ridiculous stuff and I
Speaker 1: was like whatever, I don't care, Like, if it's gonna
Speaker 1: if we're gonna get a laugh out of it, let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. But it obviously it puts something in
Speaker 1: you and the grains something need to where you're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I want more of this. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: became addictive, And I think it's because that adrenaline that
Speaker 1: you get when you're on the air, when you're doing
Speaker 1: a show, Like for me at that point was a
Speaker 1: you know, college kid. I was calling into the radio
Speaker 1: station but they were on you know, I was on
Speaker 1: the station that you know, my friends were listening to
Speaker 1: and just being in that moment, the rush that you get,
Speaker 1: it's such a high, and I think That's what I
Speaker 1: loved so much about it was the high from it,
Speaker 1: and it was like it was something that you know
Speaker 1: once you're once you're done the show, it kind of
Speaker 1: sticks around too. So it's just like a really euphoric
Speaker 1: feeling and I love it. I think it's about that time,
Speaker 1: just so we take a little breathing. Good, do it good.
Speaker 1: It's getting down to do it good. Hey Gerard, why
Speaker 1: did you get that T shirt? You mean? Oh yes,
Speaker 1: I got it from cut to a podcast dot com
Speaker 1: where we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys
Speaker 1: at seven oh four shot. But yeah, you can go on,
Speaker 1: buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. Let's talk ball, and you're and talking ball.
Speaker 1: We can talk about football, but also talking really about
Speaker 1: your area of expertise. And I work with you and
Speaker 1: I know how much you grind. So let's get this
Speaker 1: out of the way, because you know I get on
Speaker 1: you about the You are a die hard Eagles fan.
Speaker 1: So when I say a die hard Philadelphia Eagles fan,
Speaker 1: I want to know what's the dress, what's the food,
Speaker 1: the why, the what the winds? Now? Walk us through
Speaker 1: it because I'm gonna air with you. You can't really
Speaker 1: let your hair down. And like when the when the
Speaker 1: Eagles won the Super Bowl, then it wasn't a question.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, who's going to do it? Yeah
Speaker 1: he was not going here can we rain her in?
Speaker 1: She was at she was at the super Bowl like
Speaker 1: her Husbin was on the team, but she was working
Speaker 1: that works. She was over there bopping and dancing to
Speaker 1: the music. She she was in like the they had
Speaker 1: her into, like the the scaffolding, like like she's at
Speaker 1: a golf tournament, right, she's supposed to be whispering. She
Speaker 1: loud talking, Oh yeah, oh yeah, that was so awesome.
Speaker 1: She was acting a stone cold fool. So she she
Speaker 1: is a straight up die hardy. She's supposed to look
Speaker 1: at all thirty two teams not not a little extra.
Speaker 1: She she got two loaves, John, her husband, and Philly.
Speaker 1: Everything he goes baccy. Yeah, but you know what that
Speaker 1: also means, like they get extra scrutiny to like just
Speaker 1: like it's like I love them like my kids. They
Speaker 1: really don't keep me up at night, which is great,
Speaker 1: but I will say, like you know when they they
Speaker 1: also get my eye as well, like they will if
Speaker 1: if they're not doing well, they're going to hear it
Speaker 1: from me. And that just means in my own house
Speaker 1: when I'm watching the game. So you and Steve worked
Speaker 1: for NFL Network. I'd love for you to paint the picture.
Speaker 1: What how how hard is it working in TV? It's
Speaker 1: you know what, people, because you always have people on
Speaker 1: twit titter being people on Twitter, and everyone loves to
Speaker 1: nitpick every single little thing that goes wrong, and nobody
Speaker 1: truly knows what is happening behind the scenes and how
Speaker 1: much is just like a tight a tight rope act.
Speaker 1: And even just for instance, in one of the recent
Speaker 1: shows we did, at one point, everybody in the entire
Speaker 1: production lost all capability to hear each other, and that
Speaker 1: includes like all of the product, like the producers, the directors,
Speaker 1: me as the host, all of the guys, like nobody
Speaker 1: could hear anything. And at that point it's like, what
Speaker 1: are you supposed to do? So there's just a lot
Speaker 1: of moving parts. So when something like that happens and
Speaker 1: things do go left, what do you for both of y'all?
Speaker 1: What do you have to do? It's yeah, for a
Speaker 1: soul for the analysts, because Colleen is the host and
Speaker 1: being a host, it's kind of like being a general manager,
Speaker 1: which is a general manager in football terms. Just like
Speaker 1: being a fireman. You just put out fires, you don't
Speaker 1: create them. You are just she's teeing us up. She's
Speaker 1: got to be able to pivot, like she gotta be
Speaker 1: able to pivot when somebody like me says something that
Speaker 1: it's like, bro, you didn't go over that, because a
Speaker 1: lot of times we save we'll save some stuff when
Speaker 1: I say a pre production to what happens. A lot
Speaker 1: of times in the pre production you don't hear the
Speaker 1: authentic conversation because because you get a natural reaction. And
Speaker 1: then also too, and she knows I've said some stuff.
Speaker 1: At times she's like ohision, and then she'll say something
Speaker 1: or like well she have to funagle it where her
Speaker 1: teleprompter goes out. When your studio, yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: it's it's like it's a lot of you have to
Speaker 1: cover up any any mistakes that happen, and like a
Speaker 1: lot of things happen when you're live. Sometimes producers will
Speaker 1: like when they when they hit your button to like
Speaker 1: get in your I F. Basically when they you know,
Speaker 1: when they talk to you, sometimes that button gets stuck
Speaker 1: and then you here in your ear the producer yelling
Speaker 1: to like the director to do this, and all of
Speaker 1: the checking in with the reporters and everything else, and
Speaker 1: you're still trying to complete a sentence and figure out
Speaker 1: like if it makes sense while hearing all of these
Speaker 1: other conversations at the same time, and you know it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot that's happening. It's a lot of input.
Speaker 1: It's not just makeup, lipstick and and and chapstick. It
Speaker 1: requires a lot of film watching, and Klie writes her
Speaker 1: own script for for a lot of the stuff that
Speaker 1: she does, so she does a lot of things that
Speaker 1: a lot of people it is just not showing up
Speaker 1: and look pretty a smile. So what is the biggest
Speaker 1: misconception of working on TV or even something that you
Speaker 1: didn't mention. I think that's I think that is the
Speaker 1: that's it right there. I mean that we just show
Speaker 1: up and all we do is put on makeup and
Speaker 1: then read off of a teleprompter um and just regurgitate
Speaker 1: stuff that producers tell us in our ear. And like,
Speaker 1: let me just be clear, there there is not somebody
Speaker 1: that is sitting there feeding us information because they have
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that they are doing, and that
Speaker 1: is like the least of their concerns, and they're trying
Speaker 1: to keep the show on track, and we need to
Speaker 1: be able to respond like normal human beings and have
Speaker 1: a conversation and be prepared and know the subject matter
Speaker 1: and be able to pivot when there is breaking news.
Speaker 1: And a lot of the times I write scripts, but
Speaker 1: I don't totally love to be scripted. I like to
Speaker 1: be off the cuff. I like to add lib a
Speaker 1: lot more. And so during Quarantine, when we were doing
Speaker 1: all of the shows from home, like I had so
Speaker 1: many people tweet me and be like, oh, anybody can
Speaker 1: just sit there with a teleprompter, and it's like, hey, buddy,
Speaker 1: I don't have one at my house. Like all of
Speaker 1: this is like off the top of my head, and
Speaker 1: that requires a lot of work. And I think a
Speaker 1: lot of times I feel like when I'm preparing for
Speaker 1: games and shows, I almost feel like I'm back in
Speaker 1: college again because it just feels like there's so much
Speaker 1: work goes into it and I'm studying and I feel
Speaker 1: like I never left school because it changes every couple
Speaker 1: of days and you have to refresh and after every game,
Speaker 1: there's new storylines and you have to get back in.
Speaker 1: There's never a break during the season. It is a
Speaker 1: grind and it goes fast, but you've gotta you've gotta
Speaker 1: keep up because if you don't, you will just get
Speaker 1: swallowed alive. Today I was on another podcast and I
Speaker 1: was talking to a female but one was interesting. When
Speaker 1: I was doing this podcast on women in in in fashion,
Speaker 1: the woman said that there's not a lot of mental
Speaker 1: wars or people that she felt comfortable with to be
Speaker 1: able to kind of seek out help. So what I'm
Speaker 1: asking you, Colleen, is in the war in the job
Speaker 1: you're in, how much collaboration do female host or female
Speaker 1: in general working in the sports area rely support each
Speaker 1: other on a day to daily basis. I think it's changed, um,
Speaker 1: and it is changing. Okay, hold on, hold on, is changing?
Speaker 1: So rewind that too. If it's changing, that must mean
Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna say it's changing for the good. Then
Speaker 1: what was it before before you start to paint this
Speaker 1: rosie pitch or give me to give me the real real? Now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well there there's You know, there wasn't a ton of
Speaker 1: us when I first started, and at least like in
Speaker 1: the places where I worked. You know, if I'm in sports,
Speaker 1: I'm I might be I might only be the I
Speaker 1: might be the only woman sort of in the room
Speaker 1: a lot of times, so when there was another woman,
Speaker 1: it would be it wasn't like friendly or cordial. A
Speaker 1: lot of times it was kind of a competitive type thing.
Speaker 1: And I think it's sort of set up that way
Speaker 1: and a lot of instances because you there are so
Speaker 1: few positions, and there are so few positions in general,
Speaker 1: and then so few positions for women, and you know,
Speaker 1: when you're when you're competing with the people that you're
Speaker 1: working with, it kind of creates this really weird dynamic.
Speaker 1: And as I've been in the business and as I've
Speaker 1: gotten more comfortable and confident in my position, um and,
Speaker 1: I think that things in the world have changed a
Speaker 1: little bit more. I think that women in general are
Speaker 1: becoming more supportive of each other than than they were previously,
Speaker 1: at least I have experienced that. Um So, I think
Speaker 1: that now it seems like there's more, Hey, there's strengthen
Speaker 1: us working together rather than us working against each other,
Speaker 1: and like, look what we can do or if we
Speaker 1: bring all of like all of our supporters, you know
Speaker 1: and and and people that follow us together and we
Speaker 1: could create something even better. Um. But yeah, when I
Speaker 1: first started, there was very few female mentors. I really
Speaker 1: didn't have any. But I do remember when I first
Speaker 1: got when I first walked into the Eagles locker room, um,
Speaker 1: my first time in the locker room ever. There was
Speaker 1: one uh woman in there who she was awesome and
Speaker 1: she worked for one of the newspapers at the time
Speaker 1: in town. And she pulled me aside and she was like, look,
Speaker 1: if you're going to be in here like this is
Speaker 1: this is what I'll tell you to like to help
Speaker 1: you kind of watch your back and and she was
Speaker 1: like told me the told me the different players too
Speaker 1: that are more prickly, told me, like, you know who
Speaker 1: who I should deal with like pr wise, Like which
Speaker 1: guys are going to be less creepy than other guys
Speaker 1: and kind of gave me laid the groundwork for me
Speaker 1: um and kind of helped me steer clear of potential
Speaker 1: obstacles and pitfalls and stuff. And that meant so much
Speaker 1: to me, just that one conversation, but there weren't a
Speaker 1: lot of them. Are calling a last segment that we'll
Speaker 1: wrap up with. It's called the Deep Three. And so
Speaker 1: what we'll do is we'll ask you three questions that
Speaker 1: basically beyond who you are within your industry, getting to
Speaker 1: know who Colleen Wolfie is. So se me to give
Speaker 1: you the first question. If you can write a letter
Speaker 1: to younger Colleen right now, you can go backwards and
Speaker 1: you can prepare her for this moment, what would you write?
Speaker 1: And I would tell her to relax, tell her to
Speaker 1: stop stressing out about all of these small things because
Speaker 1: they don't matter. They're not going to matter. There's going
Speaker 1: to be way bigger things that you're going to have
Speaker 1: to deal with and have fun now and live it
Speaker 1: up and just be yourself. There were so many times
Speaker 1: when I first started that I was trying to be
Speaker 1: something because you get told by supervisors and managers and consultants,
Speaker 1: and you know, everybody is trying to get their opinion
Speaker 1: in and they want you to be a certain way.
Speaker 1: They want you to look a certain way, sound a
Speaker 1: certain way, talk a certain way, say certain things, and
Speaker 1: ultimately you just gotta be you. And that is I mean,
Speaker 1: I I don't know how to be anything else but me.
Speaker 1: And the more that I was able to get comfortable
Speaker 1: in my own skin and be comfortable being uncomfortable. Then
Speaker 1: that's when I kind of found success. Prety good right there.
Speaker 1: Now that you've navigated through your career, how will you
Speaker 1: make it easier for women coming up underneath you to rise? Well?
Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of I talked to a
Speaker 1: lot of girls that are, you know, in college. Now
Speaker 1: I get a lot of people that reach out to
Speaker 1: me on Twitter and Instagram, And it is a great
Speaker 1: question because there's no like, there's no great way to
Speaker 1: sort of bring people up, Like if I had some
Speaker 1: type of mentor program, that would be the goal for
Speaker 1: me to help other women break in because normally I
Speaker 1: just I take a look at their stuff. They're they're reels,
Speaker 1: some of their clips, and I give them some notes
Speaker 1: and I try and set them up with meetings at
Speaker 1: different places or agents things like that, just just little things.
Speaker 1: But ultimately, it is such a it's such a fickle business.
Speaker 1: And the thing that the thing that's the most frustrating
Speaker 1: about this business is it's not a meritocracy, and it's
Speaker 1: really subjective and it really depends a lot on right place,
Speaker 1: right time, who the people in charge are, what they like,
Speaker 1: and if they like you, and there's so much turnover
Speaker 1: that happens to so things change so quickly, and so
Speaker 1: I think it it's it is a really difficult industry,
Speaker 1: and I think more than anything else, what women need
Speaker 1: is just support. You and John both working in sports world.
Speaker 1: What impact do you want to have? Wants you to
Speaker 1: are sitting on the porch with the dogs somewhere for now,
Speaker 1: how would that conversation go looking back? Well, I just
Speaker 1: I want to be able to look back on everything
Speaker 1: that I did, and I want to be able to
Speaker 1: feel like we we made people laugh, we made people
Speaker 1: feel better like this, there's so there's so much that's negative,
Speaker 1: especially right now. I think in the world that if
Speaker 1: if we're able to kind of help people at all,
Speaker 1: just brighten their day even a little bit, I feel
Speaker 1: like that to me is a huge, a huge impact.
Speaker 1: Like I I there have been people that you reach
Speaker 1: out to me and and say that certain certain things,
Speaker 1: certain shows have like helped them. I mean, I do
Speaker 1: a podcast another podcast around the NFL um at work,
Speaker 1: and one of the guys right now on it is
Speaker 1: going through cancer, Chris Westling, and he's talked very openly
Speaker 1: about his battle and the impact that he's had on
Speaker 1: people listening is just been and you can't even put
Speaker 1: it into words. And I think if you're able to
Speaker 1: affect like even one or two people in your life,
Speaker 1: then you've done You've done your job. Here, Colleen talks
Speaker 1: about how she basically fell into sports media. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: have a much different journey. You played in the NFL
Speaker 1: for a number of years. How did you end up
Speaker 1: working now with NFL Networks? I fell into it too,
Speaker 1: is I was approached by a guy named Taylor's Arzer
Speaker 1: here in Charlotte, North Carolina. He asked me to come
Speaker 1: in on in the in the studio w f n Z,
Speaker 1: and so I started doing that and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: let me take you internships. So trying to work the
Speaker 1: boards a little bit, and then I was getting on
Speaker 1: air for like ten or fifteen minutes. Then I started
Speaker 1: coming in once a once a month. Then he had
Speaker 1: a an agent that he referred me to, so I
Speaker 1: went with them, talked to him, and then they worked
Speaker 1: a deal and I started working for XM Radio NFL channel.
Speaker 1: Did that once a week from like seven am to
Speaker 1: ten and then I was um went to Baltimore and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Um, Mike and Mike asked me
Speaker 1: to come in. I had a contract with them. I
Speaker 1: was doing eight appearances on the Monday after a game,
Speaker 1: so I would fly to Bristol and do it, do
Speaker 1: the morning show. And then I got some great advice
Speaker 1: from Sage Still Um, she's female anchor for ESPN. Awesome,
Speaker 1: she's cool as a fan. Um, she's much cooler than
Speaker 1: her big brother Chad. Still with the with the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: But um, she was like, look, figure out what you
Speaker 1: want to do. If this is what you want to do.
Speaker 1: And I didn't think this is what I wanted to do,
Speaker 1: but I was getting the opportunities to do it. She says,
Speaker 1: So this is what you do. Go and most guys
Speaker 1: when they come on, they just really show up for
Speaker 1: that little segment. She was like, no, don't do that.
Speaker 1: Tell them you want to be a part of the
Speaker 1: whole production or at least observed. So don't go in
Speaker 1: just for your segment. Because if you have a show
Speaker 1: that's on from six am to eleven and you come
Speaker 1: in at the eight thirty nine o'clock hour, they've been
Speaker 1: blown and going for a long time. What time do
Speaker 1: they show up? What time, what's the process of production meeting,
Speaker 1: what is this? What is that? And it made so
Speaker 1: much sense. We end up being on the phone for
Speaker 1: about forty five minutes and she told me what to do,
Speaker 1: how to do it, and then you know, if you
Speaker 1: are one built for this business, do you want to
Speaker 1: do it? And I really enjoyed it because it had
Speaker 1: a process. It has something that coming out of a
Speaker 1: process field job, which is football. You show up on
Speaker 1: you play on Sunday, but you show up on Monday,
Speaker 1: you get some weights or treatment, Tuesday's off, Wednesday first first,
Speaker 1: first and second down, Thursday third, third down and long
Speaker 1: and fringe, Friday's red zone, Saturday's walked through, Sundays the
Speaker 1: game right and so just not having that process anymore. Retirement.
Speaker 1: So I went through that and interview with CBS NFL. Uh,
Speaker 1: I was actually you want here a dirty secret, do tail?
Speaker 1: Do tail? So I was interviewing with Fox Sports with
Speaker 1: Undisputed and all that stuff. So I was interviewing with them,
Speaker 1: but I had a lunch hour and a half that
Speaker 1: we slid into a restaurant down in um down. Where
Speaker 1: was it down in Holly? Uh? I think it was
Speaker 1: a Hollywood area of Cover City area and had lunch
Speaker 1: with the hiring guys with NFL Network, so he was
Speaker 1: used a highly contested free agent had But later I
Speaker 1: had dinner with Fox Sports, but I was doing an
Speaker 1: interview with Fox Sports who was offering me, and then
Speaker 1: I had an interview with NFL Network and ended up
Speaker 1: in They interviewed me, but I ended up interviewing them,
Speaker 1: and so what got me the job was they said, hey, um,
Speaker 1: what do you think. I said, well, I know you
Speaker 1: guys don't have a presence on the East coast. Let
Speaker 1: me be your presence on the East Coast. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna come to l A on a consistent basis. But
Speaker 1: what I will do is every major event I'll be there,
Speaker 1: Combine wanted training camp, I'll do it, super Bowl there,
Speaker 1: intersit down interviews. But I'm not coming to l A
Speaker 1: on the consistent basis. I don't want to do that
Speaker 1: Sunday show because I got a family. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I said, really, next day, you know, had dinner. Crazy
Speaker 1: part is Fox Sports pay for my flight, play for
Speaker 1: my whole til you dirty dog and basically got me
Speaker 1: the job or NFL Network. Now, I interviewed with Fox
Speaker 1: UM as well. They wanted me to do the other
Speaker 1: show that Sunday morning, but again that's l A. But
Speaker 1: it was cool and interview with ESPN a little bit,
Speaker 1: but they had some things going on internally, they were
Speaker 1: shaping and changing up and they were trying to figure
Speaker 1: out Um. They didn't really have a place for me UM,
Speaker 1: so that didn't work out. And and that's how I
Speaker 1: got with NFL Network. That's how I got That's how
Speaker 1: I got the job. I got some great um advice
Speaker 1: from family friends, and that's how I got my job.
Speaker 1: So it was it was really started at a local
Speaker 1: radio station and man moved up. So without w F
Speaker 1: and Z and Taylor's oarsla so UM, I would have
Speaker 1: never got I would never be a media guy. So
Speaker 1: both of y'all small humble beginnings radio stations and then
Speaker 1: putting the grind in and then look where you just
Speaker 1: fall into place. That's dope, man, that's a dope. There's dope,
Speaker 1: just a long, long journey. It's not well tracked. It's
Speaker 1: not the well traveled round and and it like we
Speaker 1: said before, people want to see the fully baked version,
Speaker 1: but they don't want to see what it took when
Speaker 1: you were just in yeast mode. See how play that? Yeah? Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: that don't cook like that. I'm pretty good. I don't
Speaker 1: make I don't make. You don't. That's some good right there.
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