WEBVTT - Colleen Wolfe

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm John and this is cut

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<v Speaker 1>to It. Good do it, cud do it. Let's getting

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<v Speaker 1>down to do it. Good do it. We asked the

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<v Speaker 1>questions you always want to know, but no one ever asked,

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<v Speaker 1>let's cut to it. You ain't heard about it, then

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to let you know. It's all. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>your first Sorry. Here we are back with another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of cut to It podcast. What's going on? Steve? Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? David? First off, don't be giving my

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<v Speaker 1>government a name. That's your name, Paul, But I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>ask you to reveal it again. There you go with

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<v Speaker 1>that that word. I don't. I don't call you Stevan.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost called you. It's almost said it with the hards.

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<v Speaker 1>But but Steve, v if you're gonna say my birth name,

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<v Speaker 1>say van, I don't, I don't. I don't see. I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't ask you to tell my whole name. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna say my whole name, share right almost again?

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<v Speaker 1>Hard are almost Steven Smith Senior? Now we got that

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<v Speaker 1>out there, David. Okay, Gerard Jim Rome. Right now, the

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<v Speaker 1>question is who's Jim? Who's Chris? Tell you tell me?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure? Okay, I like it AnyWho? Um Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been able to uh watch you on Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 1>You always doing a great job as usual. I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do I sense a little bit of glad handed

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<v Speaker 1>you slide the hand? Are you over here? And do

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<v Speaker 1>I look like David Blaine? I'm not slight of hand

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<v Speaker 1>since one of my magician Yeah, so can I give

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<v Speaker 1>you your flowers? Why you why you can still smell?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not when you're You're tough one to please today,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get domistic Paul understatement. So watching you on

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday nights doing a great job as usual? Question, thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Question for you, is there a comparison you have between

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<v Speaker 1>live TV and game day? That's a good question. I mean, no,

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<v Speaker 1>preparation is still preparation. It's slightly different. Obviously, you get

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<v Speaker 1>a paper cut on TV. You can get your leg

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<v Speaker 1>broken on game day. Slide different, right, a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. You gotta let's see you know Disney

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<v Speaker 1>band aid anesthesian surgery, right, So it's a huge difference

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<v Speaker 1>with the injuries, but it's still preparation, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of watching films, sometimes too much film. You

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<v Speaker 1>can also watch I can get in the data with

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<v Speaker 1>so much film and and numbers and facts that you

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<v Speaker 1>start to lose the perspective and your your mind is

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<v Speaker 1>going faster than your mind. You're trying to process, and

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<v Speaker 1>you get numbers and start to you start to put

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<v Speaker 1>names together with the wrong teams and and numbers with

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<v Speaker 1>this and point seven and point this, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>great examples talking about So we're talking about Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of weeks and talking about, um, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with him in the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And

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<v Speaker 1>and I said that one of the things that he's

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<v Speaker 1>had to do, which is he's done for the last

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen plus years, is in New England. His philosophy was

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<v Speaker 1>got look short first and allow the deep passes to

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<v Speaker 1>develop as an outlet, which is totally different. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady. That's why he's the goat. But now he's

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<v Speaker 1>in Tampa Bay and Bruce Arians kind of offense is

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<v Speaker 1>look deep first, short second. And just to give you

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<v Speaker 1>this illustration is Tom Brady's last year in twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>for the New England Patriots. I believe it was roughly

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<v Speaker 1>forty one forty four thousand, one hundred and fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>yards yards per temp. I don't have the I can

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<v Speaker 1>look at my phone and tell you, but yards per

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<v Speaker 1>temp is an average of six point seven or six

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<v Speaker 1>point six yards per attempt. Last year under Jameis Winston

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce arians offense with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers two thousand, nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand, one hundred and something yards, so a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit below to hundred yards average yards per temp eight

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<v Speaker 1>point six, huge difference, right, just to kind of show it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in twenty Tampa Bay Buccaneers under under Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>right now, seven point four yards per temp. Still below, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but eat under pressure Tom Brady is average, and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe a little bit above five yards per temp under

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<v Speaker 1>pressure barely seven seven point seven yards per temp. So

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<v Speaker 1>obviously not being pressured, not having you know, looking down there,

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<v Speaker 1>you can stare things down let long developing play. So basically,

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<v Speaker 1>those are some of the things that I experience and

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<v Speaker 1>deal with in the TV world now as a football player. Hey, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>they're running this coverage. I don't care if they listened.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw me the ball that that that's the difference in

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<v Speaker 1>game day. In playing football, you allow the numbers to

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<v Speaker 1>give you an understandable what plays the run. In TV,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers give you an understanding of why a team

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<v Speaker 1>is good, indifferent, or can't get out of their own way.

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<v Speaker 1>So you gave me a good correlation between game day

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<v Speaker 1>and live TV. Has there been a time when you're

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<v Speaker 1>on live TV where maybe you had an instance where

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<v Speaker 1>you you kind of wanted that play back. Well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you made a mistake and you kind of wanted that

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<v Speaker 1>play back. Man, live TV sucks because sometimes you just

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<v Speaker 1>get stuck or you go over on the segment and

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<v Speaker 1>you have a good point and you have to skip

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<v Speaker 1>over that segment because now we don't have that time.

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<v Speaker 1>So generally an hour show is really only forty seven

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<v Speaker 1>forty six minutes of content because you have commercials. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta pay for the advertisement. So um, But there's also

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<v Speaker 1>a bit some times on live TV. Brother been on

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<v Speaker 1>that struggle bus, struggle moment I got I'm an listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you just you're having a bad day. Through the

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<v Speaker 1>magic I can't say the magic of television, through the

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<v Speaker 1>magic of podcasting. We've got a clip queued up. I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe one I guess potentially you want to have

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<v Speaker 1>bad Let's let's let's see if we can get our

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<v Speaker 1>production folks to run that back the production because they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been the greatest of franchise uh since obviously damn

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<v Speaker 1>damn remi uh Dan, I can't even speak right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The Marino at the end is what does it for me?

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<v Speaker 1>I was stuck. It was late that night though I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna shoot you some bail. It was late that night,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was like one o'clock in the morning. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like it was really late. It doesn't matter. I

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<v Speaker 1>was stuck. I get it. I mean, do you know

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<v Speaker 1>about Dann Marino's name? Dan Marino? Now now I got

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the sad poy. Just laugh, bro, She's like

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<v Speaker 1>two days. I was still jacked up two days after that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was like, I'm just it's when you want

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<v Speaker 1>back though, right, want back? Bro? I didn't cry, but

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<v Speaker 1>you run it back. I run it back in my mind,

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<v Speaker 1>just like like you had to drop pass like I

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<v Speaker 1>mean being at like, man, I wish I had that.

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<v Speaker 1>You just you just screwed up my day. You were

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day. Are you hard? Are

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<v Speaker 1>again hard? Are again? Enough? Enough with this dollars? But seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it was. I was jacked up for about two days.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I screwed that one up. Yah yeah you

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<v Speaker 1>got you got, you got more positives than than you

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<v Speaker 1>got or whatever. Man. Hey, so tough crowd. Yeah, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>who we got next? Alright? Coming up on the Cut

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<v Speaker 1>to It podcast, We've got Colleen Wolf, a host for

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Network who works Thursday Night football, a number of

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Network shows. A native of Philly and just all

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<v Speaker 1>around friend of the podcast, Colleen Wolf. Cut to the podcast. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>So our first segment, Colleen is called get Iced Up

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<v Speaker 1>the Random Ice break with questions. They're selected at random

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<v Speaker 1>by Smitthie. So you know how he is. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's coming. I don't know if you follow up.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got some creative stuff for you this time.

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<v Speaker 1>So Smithie go ahead and give Colleen the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Buckle up, Buttercup, here it goes. Oh my god. Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>not be nervous, but just maybe towards the right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You are if you had the power to shrink anything

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<v Speaker 1>and take it with you, what would it be And why, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be just one thing? Yes, one thing? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I can I reanimate it after I get to

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<v Speaker 1>where I go? Can I like, if you shrink something,

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<v Speaker 1>and then can I unshrink it after I get to

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<v Speaker 1>wherever I'm going? Judges, what do I? Judges saying you're good?

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<v Speaker 1>Thumbs up? Okay, cool, cool, cool, coole. I'm putting John

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<v Speaker 1>in my pocket. That was all that was really inappropriate

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<v Speaker 1>for John? Yeah, I know. Well then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say my dogs, but then if I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>if I bring my dogs and that John and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, and so I wanted to but I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure I could unshrink John after I shrank him.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's the answer. Okay, I will text John

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<v Speaker 1>after to let him he's getting shrunk and playing in

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<v Speaker 1>your pocket? Is her husband? Everyone? So relax, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your favorite Christmas present you've ever received? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I got a couple of years ago. There's this picture

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<v Speaker 1>at NFL Films of I think it's Betty Grable, um

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<v Speaker 1>when she was like a young actress with a leather

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<v Speaker 1>football helmet on and a football and it's like this

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<v Speaker 1>glam shot and I saw it at NFL Films and

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<v Speaker 1>I fell in love with it and somehow John figured out,

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<v Speaker 1>like what where to get it and surprise me with it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I love it. I haven't frame in my office.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. I just got an email about do we

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<v Speaker 1>still any photos? Um, yes, I think I think John

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<v Speaker 1>definitely case. That's really cool. That's great John. John is

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<v Speaker 1>a good dude. Man. This homework. Have you seen the

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<v Speaker 1>show Neked and Afraid? No, it sounds terrible, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>on it's so on Discovery. Um, Discovery Chi was actually

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<v Speaker 1>a great show. So we're gonna kind of play that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's called Clothes and Afraid because we have morals. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you uh, you can only have three items to bring

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<v Speaker 1>with you to an uninhabited place. What are your three items?

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<v Speaker 1>And before you answer, would you like me to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you a mine are to kind of help you because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't seem like you watched the show, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>you need negative phrase. Basically, they take people and they

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<v Speaker 1>just they disrobe, they don't have any clothes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they give them survival kick and they like they get

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<v Speaker 1>you get one item, you get one or two items

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it. So mine is my list is I

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<v Speaker 1>get a firestarter, a tent, and a huge knife slash machete?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, those are good. Um, now you cannot use

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<v Speaker 1>any of those three. Go I got a knife. A

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<v Speaker 1>knife is a great idea. All right, fine, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>because now you can't because you have anything that has

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<v Speaker 1>a sharp edge. Just yes, you can, just not a

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<v Speaker 1>knife or machete, because that's mine. We're not sharing a

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<v Speaker 1>box cutter. Okay, box cutter. How many busts are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be at an uninhibited island? You on an island by yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows? Yeah, alright, fine box cutter. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with that. How about matches? Is that too close to

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<v Speaker 1>fire starter? No? That's that's that's a match. Okay. The

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<v Speaker 1>key is going to be the like the kindle or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And you gotta watch. And I'm bringing a raft with

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<v Speaker 1>rose attached to it so I can get the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of there. So dead, so you are, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm get to ask the questions. Listen, I get the win.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the win either way. So taking away the

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<v Speaker 1>box cutter and I'm replacing it with a spear. There

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<v Speaker 1>we go. You she just earned her shelf. Three extra

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<v Speaker 1>days of life right there, like a six point because

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna die. She she gave drink salt water. She

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<v Speaker 1>has no pot to cook it in, so all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you learn when you're watching this show. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching Castaway the other day. So can I

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<v Speaker 1>just get some moisture from coconuts? Yes? Because because you

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<v Speaker 1>will never see anybody. But yet she's tanning, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm give me some channing oil and a volleyball for

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<v Speaker 1>a friend. Okay, all right, all right, a few more.

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<v Speaker 1>When was the last time you gotten pulled over the speeding.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never gotten pulled over for speeding, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten pulled over for not putting my turn signal on

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<v Speaker 1>early enough to change lanes in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>night when I was going to a radio station job

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<v Speaker 1>that I had and it was very very shady. M hmm. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in Philly. Huh. Yeah, but like, how is that

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<v Speaker 1>even a thing? There was nobody on the road dead

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<v Speaker 1>of night, and I got pulled over for not turning

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<v Speaker 1>on my turn signal because early enough. Yeah, you were

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<v Speaker 1>in Philly, correct, And you're probably in a sketch neighborhood, right,

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit a little bit. Okay, you are not

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<v Speaker 1>African American, but my windows were tinted and they thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were trying to get dope. That's what the score.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where if Philly comes out of her Cardi

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<v Speaker 1>b or Megan Stallion. You know, I feel like my

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<v Speaker 1>allegiances have wavered. Uh. And I really really love Megan

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<v Speaker 1>Stallion like I love her And I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with Cardi and Offset lately. I haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>like two into the drama. But you know, I did

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<v Speaker 1>listen to a couple of Cardi songs yesterday, But when

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to Whop, I was really into the

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<v Speaker 1>Megan Stallion part. I don't know that I qualified. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Yeah, I'm not quiet. All right, Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's get down to who Colleen is, what, what is her?

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<v Speaker 1>What's what is she made of? What makes her tick?

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<v Speaker 1>So here we go. Where are you from in a

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<v Speaker 1>place you call your hometown? Well, shoot, that's Philly. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up outside of Philly, um like forty five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes outside, but went to school in Philly, have a

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<v Speaker 1>house in Philly. Still, Philly is my city. I love

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<v Speaker 1>everything about it, the good, the bad, all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such an awesome place, and the people are so

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<v Speaker 1>very real there. They will tell you exactly what they're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking immediately, and they're all lunatics and mostly related to me. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>how did your hometown impact and shape your perspective on

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<v Speaker 1>how you see the world today. Well, I think Philly

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<v Speaker 1>is really kind of it's it's a rough around the

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<v Speaker 1>edges kind of city. It's very blue collar. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>hard working, and that was something that was like instilled

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<v Speaker 1>in me from the minute I was able to get

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<v Speaker 1>a job. I got a job and I was working,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was working multiple jobs at any time, like

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<v Speaker 1>usually usually I had three jobs at a time. And

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<v Speaker 1>then that stopped when I went to college and I

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<v Speaker 1>just had one job. But it was you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a it's a city where everybody really really has

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<v Speaker 1>to scrap for to get ahead and for everything that

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<v Speaker 1>they want. And I think that that has like really

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<v Speaker 1>shaped the way that I kind of look at things.

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<v Speaker 1>I over prepare for every single assignment, no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck it is, and that is just something like

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<v Speaker 1>my work ethic was built. I think from Philly. You

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny as you over prepare, but you also worry

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<v Speaker 1>yourself much. Yeah, and you think that is obviously it

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<v Speaker 1>is a great quality of you. But how do you

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<v Speaker 1>handle relaxing? Yeah, so that's a great question. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of the the worrying, um and the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of anxiety that I get around work is because

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<v Speaker 1>I I just don't want to, like, I'm so competitive

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm so competitive with myself and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to let anybody down. That's like with me, that like

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<v Speaker 1>so any I don't want to ever be the weakest

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<v Speaker 1>link basically on any of these shows. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>us to, you know, do as as best we can.

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<v Speaker 1>And so like I feel like I spend so much

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<v Speaker 1>time preparing and worrying, and then once the show starts,

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<v Speaker 1>I can actually relax. And then once the show is finished,

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<v Speaker 1>I can really relax. And that is like my sweet spot. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>when everything is done and I get through it and

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<v Speaker 1>we do it and it's good and it's great, then

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<v Speaker 1>I can just chill and then I can just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like coast, have a beer, like watch a show

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<v Speaker 1>and just zone out it. I can relate to that

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<v Speaker 1>because it's also you have the internal standard to write

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<v Speaker 1>like you you don't want to let know write it down.

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<v Speaker 1>And I definitely feel that, but it's you also don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to let yourself down, right, Yeah, And and like

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<v Speaker 1>any time that you know you've been in a spot

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<v Speaker 1>where you realize, oh my god, like I should have

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<v Speaker 1>known that, I, you know, I should have prepared for that.

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<v Speaker 1>That sort of I think changes you a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think for me, I what I

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<v Speaker 1>need to do is sort of like dial it back sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just like so programmed within me that like

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<v Speaker 1>that's just part of my fabric. So growing up, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you believe that the world worked? God, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything when I was growing up about the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like oblivious to a lot of things. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very much in a bubble growing up. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think I realized a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>until I went to college and moved into the city

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<v Speaker 1>and I met different people that grew up in different

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances and heard their stories, and it's all really started

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<v Speaker 1>to click and hit me. And I think kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looking back on that now, I realized how isolated I

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<v Speaker 1>was growing up and how much I didn't know, and

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<v Speaker 1>how much I've really changed and grown as a person

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<v Speaker 1>since then, how can you say you are isolated? But

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<v Speaker 1>yet when you look at Philly, like here in Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Philly is Pennsylvania. Then you've got New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>which depends kind of like Charlotte, which is depending on

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<v Speaker 1>which route you take, you could be in Philly or

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<v Speaker 1>be in New Jersey with the a few left turns

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<v Speaker 1>and about a mile you know, a mile each way.

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<v Speaker 1>So how could you really be isolated in such a

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<v Speaker 1>city that has so much diversity? I know, it's it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because yeah, you can get you get to

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<v Speaker 1>like a ton of different states in no time in

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<v Speaker 1>the Northeast. Um, but where I grew up, I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in a suburb that was like mostly white, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was I feel like the suburbs around Philly are

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty isolated and within their own bubbles. And even

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<v Speaker 1>when I go go back home now and I see

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<v Speaker 1>all of my friends who haven't left, and I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to them and I hear some of the things they say,

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<v Speaker 1>it it hits a lot different now. It changed my

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<v Speaker 1>world view when I went to college and and met

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different people from different backgrounds, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was an amazing experience and it was life changing. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to take a break and the morning thing. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta pay some bills. H you got chicks. I love

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<v Speaker 1>cut to It and I love it even more when

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<v Speaker 1>you download us and subscribe, and you can follow us

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0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:03.080
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<v Speaker 1>to It? Facebook? Cut to It featuring Steve Smith singr?

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<v Speaker 1>I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 1>all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, a brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut to a podcast dot com. What did you daydream

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<v Speaker 1>about when you're in high school? Well, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in high school, I was a figure skater, so I

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<v Speaker 1>got it out of her. I knew I could get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I't like to talk about it. No, Yeah. I started

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<v Speaker 1>skating when I was like six years old, and I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it and I got really good at it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I was I skated before school. Like I would

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<v Speaker 1>get up at four am and go to the rink

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<v Speaker 1>and turn the lights on and like It was great

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<v Speaker 1>because if you were the first one at the rink,

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<v Speaker 1>then you could choose the music, and that meant like

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<v Speaker 1>TLC was on, can you imagine this little skinny little girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I skate into tchecial and four in Philly and like,

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<v Speaker 1>mind you, I like cut all my hair off too,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like short pixie cut. And my coaches were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you are way too much of a tomboy. So they

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<v Speaker 1>sent me to ballet classes because they were like, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to learn how to be graceful. They were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the athleticism, you can lend these jumps like

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<v Speaker 1>you have all like the power, because I was like

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<v Speaker 1>all I was all legs when I was skating, like

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<v Speaker 1>I was all I want to do was skate faster

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<v Speaker 1>than everybody, jump high or spin better, just like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was fueled by anybody else that was on the ice.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna outskape them. And then my coaches were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all that's great, but you're like presentation sucks. So they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, here's a bunch of dresses, and of course,

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<v Speaker 1>like that triggered me because I was like, why don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to wear dresses? And they sent me to a

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<v Speaker 1>ballet teacher. Um, and I had to take all these

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<v Speaker 1>like serious ballet classes for years, and you know it

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<v Speaker 1>ended up. I guess I I got more graceful, who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I was in high school, that's all, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all I thought about. Like I would skate before school,

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<v Speaker 1>after school competitions, Like I didn't take jim class because

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<v Speaker 1>I got credits for going ice skating. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>I was really in it. Did you enjoy any other sports?

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<v Speaker 1>I ran track for a little bit my freshman year

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<v Speaker 1>of high school, but then it was it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in conflict with skating, and my parents were spending

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. I had a choreographer at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was so I mean, it's ridiculous when you

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<v Speaker 1>look back on it. But like the price of skates,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to get them custom made, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>buy the boot and the blades separately. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>take them to special places to get sharpened. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a lot. And my parents would take me

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<v Speaker 1>at four o'clock in the morning and sit at the

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<v Speaker 1>rink in the freezing cold and just watch me skate around.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, let's let's skip over that part this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Just too much. I know, I know, I was very intense.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything that I do, I just lock in. Let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about your TV career because a lot of people

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>like I get the opportunity to work. I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that everyone knows that you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>co workers only. Yeah, yeah, so we're coword. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Colleen Wolf. She's the host NFL Networks Rising Star. She

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<v Speaker 1>can host anything she and she loves sports. She knows

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<v Speaker 1>about sports. But you didn't always have the confidence that

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<v Speaker 1>you appear that you have the confidence now and see

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<v Speaker 1>I used that keyword appear. She does a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>eternal dialogue that we're gonna get into later. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you get your shot in broadcasting? And when

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<v Speaker 1>I say broadcasting, I'm not talking about TV. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about in the business and the business of broadcasting. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this was like something that I had no idea I

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<v Speaker 1>even wanted to do. This was not like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to grow up and be on TV like

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<v Speaker 1>that was not really uh the thing like I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to art school. You're gonna go to

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<v Speaker 1>art I was gonna say, what what was it? Then? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like so okay, So I was into figure

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<v Speaker 1>skating and art. I was really cool, and she wears contact,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm pretty sure she had. I'm just I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying she She says she was really cool art and

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<v Speaker 1>ice skating, so I'm like, you know, she and she's

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<v Speaker 1>super smart, so I'm just going out there. She may

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>she makes being intelligent cool. Well, thank you, like listen

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>nerds around the world. So I loved art and I

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, I applied to all art schools. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to go to school for either illustration, graphic

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<v Speaker 1>design or art education, and then, like last minute, I

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>decided to go to Drexel in Philly, and I hadn't

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>applied to their art school directly, so they were like, okay,

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't. You can't take any art classes this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Just do something, you know as take all of your

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>electives this year, reapply, and then you can start your

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 1>art program next year. So they were like, just take

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>something like communications. So I was like okay, great, and

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like this is really easy and kind of fun.

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.479
<v Speaker 1>At Drexel, you have to you go to school for

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 1>six months and then you work for six months, and

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you do that three times, so you get to have

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>three internships like three co ops, and so when it

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.120
<v Speaker 1>came time for me to do my first one, because

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I stuck with communications, I was like, this is pretty great.

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>I'll just do some art stuff on the side. So

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<v Speaker 1>it came time to do my first uh co op

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 1>and through Drexel, all they really offered were really lame

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>ones like you know, working in pharmaceutical eight like marketing

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>spots and maybe you can get a job at like

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>QBC or you know, home shopping network. And I was like,

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>all right, I don't really want to do that. But

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>my dad, um it doesn't really follow sports, has never

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>really been a big sports fan, but he was friends

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>with one of the women that was on a sports

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>talk radio show and Phil Radio on in the morning,

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and so I got an internship. They're just randomly and

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 1>it was like that sounds like a fun thing to

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>do when you're in college, work at a radio station.

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>So I went and I walked in and my first

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>day I saw these four people that were on the

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>morning show and their chemistry that they had together. They

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>were having so much fun, they were talking about sports,

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>they were like ripping on each other and it was

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.040
<v Speaker 1>such a great atmosphere and I was like, this is

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>exactly what I want to do. How do I do this? What?

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>What do I? What? Is of course exactly we're getting

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>molded for it. Yeah, how it started, How it's going

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>exactly Like you had a meme and you didn't even

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>know it. So it sounds like you fell in love

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 1>with maybe the atmosphere, but you you largely it sounds

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>like you didn't have the most interest in team sports.

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>It was you fell in love with that atmosphere being

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>at that sport station. I loved the atmosphere and I

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>was competitive, but I hadn't like unlocked that yet in

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>terms of like other team sports, Like I played softball

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 1>growing up, and like I said, I tried to run

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>track for a little bit, but that's not like a

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>team sport. And it wasn't until when I was in

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>high school and the Sixers were in the playoffs with

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Iverson and like to Kimbay Mtumbo and Eric Snow and

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>randomly I I stumbled upon one of the games and

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like I started watching the game and I

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, this is oh what is

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>that big No no exactly, and I was like, oh

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>my god, wait a second, and I started listening to

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the announcers and it was like in the middle of

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the series and I'm watching and I had no idea

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 1>what was going on, but I I was so intrigued

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>by it. And in a bubble in Philly. My family

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>was not into sports like we did not It was

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>not a house where there was football on on Sundays

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>like it just that wasn't how I grew up, which

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>is wild now that I think about it. I every

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>time I got like, you know, on Thanksgiving or like yeah,

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>on Thanksgiving, I'll go home and I feel like, you

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>know where, why is it the TV on? There are

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>games happening. What are we doing here? Like everybody get

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>it together? So so when I started watching, you know,

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>more games and getting into more sports, and once I

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>started working at the radio station, I was like, oh

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>my god, I gotta I gotta really like figure this out.

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>So I this is like super embarrassing. Um. I went

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 1>out and I got Basketball for Dummies, Football for Dummies

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>for Dummies, and I read all four books and it

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>took notes, and I every single day would read the

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>sports section on like Philly dot Com, which was like

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia Daily News and Philadelphia inquir and and I

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.040
<v Speaker 1>just like, little by little, I started and I would

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>watch the games, and I started and listen to sports

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>talk radio station all the time. Once again, I just

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>like locked in and became obsessed with trying to figure

0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>it out and obsessed with kind of like winning almost

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>at it. And it's like, how do I become the

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>best at this? And and I just it was it

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.719
<v Speaker 1>was ridiculous. Like then I was in college and I

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>was doing this uh internship where I was waking up

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>at four o'clock in the morning to go and do

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the morning show. And you know, thinking back on it now,

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like it was almost like it replaced figure skating

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>for me. It was something I needed and I latched

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>onto it just like I did skating, and I just

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I made it every part of my life. And then

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I just from there as I as I started to

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>understand it more and more and talk to more people

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>about it and ask questions and learn and listen, I

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I started to finally kind of break in and I

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of behind the scenes and then that

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of led to the stuff on camera. What were

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>some of your duties in the beginning that you had

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>to do? Oh my god, like you know you're you're

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>getting coffee for people. I remember so Hugh Douglas was

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>on the show a couple of days a week and

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.959
<v Speaker 1>he was like in the building where the studio was.

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>There was in the garage like a car wash on

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the levels, and he was like, hey can

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you take these, like during one of the breaks, Hey

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>can you take this down to the guys for my car?

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, sure, no problem, and like I thought,

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>he meant like driving his car down and it was

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 1>a Bentley and I don't even know if he knows

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the story. I got in it and I was freaking out,

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Like I it didn't occur to me that I could

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>just like drop the keys off to the guys down

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>there and they would like drive it down. And I

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>get in and I was like, oh my god, how

0:33:58.280 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>do I work this machine? What is this? And it

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>was so and I remember it turns in the in

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the parking garage to like get down to the next level,

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and I was sweating so much. And then and I

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>remember the steering wheel just being so heavy, like it

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>was so hard to turn because like I just I

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>always had total piece of crap cars growing up, right,

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 1>I got back like five minutes later, and everybody was like,

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 1>where the hell have you been. In the beginning, when

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I first latched on in that morning show, they would

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 1>have me go out and do ridiculous bits and then

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 1>call into the station with it. So one of the

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>ones I remember the most is uh, when Teo was

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>having his contract dispute when he was in Philadelphia, they

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>had me go to this city corner um. It was

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>a fifth and Market, so it's like a busy intersection

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>in Philly. And this was when Teo was like, I

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't have enough money to feed my family,

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and so they had me set up this giant They

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 1>brought down this big, giant plastic kind of container, and

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I set up a collection for Teo. And I had

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>a like salvatition army bell, I wore sandwich board, I

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>had like a megaphone, and I basically people were coming

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>by all morning long. They were throwing their lunches in,

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>they were throwing like pens in for him to sign

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>a new contract. Somebody threw some type of like lupercint

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 1>in there for him. There was a lot of really

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>interesting things that ended up popping up in the collection

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.760
<v Speaker 1>for Teo. I've been an intern before, but I never

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>ever had to do something that I think that's worse

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>than the um I always using this as an example.

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>It is probably bad, but it's my podcast with um

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 1>SO around um Tex season Liberty Liberty people. Yeah, when

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>they got the statue of Liberty guy who generally looks

0:35:55.160 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the same complexion. There's some stuff right why pretty say

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>place does it varies? And always when we drive by

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>looking at my kids, I say, you don't pay attention

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>to school. That's what your ass is gonna be doing.

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Ride there? Now? When you getting paid? Was this for

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>college credits? So for me it was, oh my god,

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.919
<v Speaker 1>none of those stuff. I had none of the that's

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that's all unpaid, all unpaid work. The picker is the

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>liberty task guy gets paid like when you are unpaid

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>because I worked for the Charlotte Hornets, I was unpaid intern.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>So they have you do all that crap. You gotta

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>go get coffee for somebody, you gotta contact, you gotta

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 1>go run stas to the coach and staff. But what

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>she's having to do like having to get embarrassed listen,

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but it's worth it telling you didn't even

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>notice g used to work for the Hornets, and his

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>job for a little bit he would give at halftime

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 1>the stats, not to Bernie Bickerstaff, not to Bickerstaff's son

0:36:54.000 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>j B. Not to JB. Bickerstaff, not to Brown. He

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>got to give Michael Jordan's the statue. So his life

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>wasn't that I had nothing like right, but she was.

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>She was basically dressed up like a Salvation Army kid. Yeah.

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>They had me do the most ridiculous stuff and I

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>was like whatever, I don't care, Like, if it's gonna

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>if we're gonna get a laugh out of it, let's go.

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it. But it obviously it puts something in

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>you and the grains something need to where you're like,

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I want more of this. Yeah, it

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>became addictive, And I think it's because that adrenaline that

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 1>you get when you're on the air, when you're doing

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>a show, Like for me at that point was a

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, college kid. I was calling into the radio

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 1>station but they were on you know, I was on

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the station that you know, my friends were listening to

0:37:55.680 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 1>and just being in that moment, the rush that you get,

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>it's such a high, and I think That's what I

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 1>loved so much about it was the high from it,

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and it was like it was something that you know

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>once you're once you're done the show, it kind of

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>sticks around too. So it's just like a really euphoric

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 1>feeling and I love it. I think it's about that time,

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:23.760
<v Speaker 1>just so we take a little breathing. Good, do it good.

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:29.359
<v Speaker 1>It's getting down to do it good. Hey Gerard, why

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.959
<v Speaker 1>did you get that T shirt? You mean? Oh yes,

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I got it from cut to a podcast dot com

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:37.439
<v Speaker 1>where we have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 1>at seven oh four shot. But yeah, you can go on,

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>buy you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>listen to podcasts. Let's talk ball, and you're and talking ball.

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:51.760
<v Speaker 1>We can talk about football, but also talking really about

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>your area of expertise. And I work with you and

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>I know how much you grind. So let's get this

0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 1>out of the way, because you know I get on

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 1>you about the You are a die hard Eagles fan.

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:06.879
<v Speaker 1>So when I say a die hard Philadelphia Eagles fan,

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to know what's the dress, what's the food,

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the why, the what the winds? Now? Walk us through

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 1>it because I'm gonna air with you. You can't really

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>let your hair down. And like when the when the

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Eagles won the Super Bowl, then it wasn't a question.

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:28.480
<v Speaker 1>It was like, oh, who's going to do it? Yeah

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>he was not going here can we rain her in?

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>She was at she was at the super Bowl like

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>her Husbin was on the team, but she was working

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 1>that works. She was over there bopping and dancing to

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the music. She she was in like the they had

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>her into, like the the scaffolding, like like she's at

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 1>a golf tournament, right, she's supposed to be whispering. She

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 1>loud talking, Oh yeah, oh yeah, that was so awesome.

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>She was acting a stone cold fool. So she she

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>is a straight up die hardy. She's supposed to look

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:14.800
<v Speaker 1>at all thirty two teams not not a little extra.

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>She she got two loaves, John, her husband, and Philly.

0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Everything he goes baccy. Yeah, but you know what that

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>also means, like they get extra scrutiny to like just

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 1>like it's like I love them like my kids. They

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:32.800
<v Speaker 1>really don't keep me up at night, which is great,

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>but I will say, like you know when they they

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 1>also get my eye as well, like they will if

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>if they're not doing well, they're going to hear it

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.399
<v Speaker 1>from me. And that just means in my own house

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>when I'm watching the game. So you and Steve worked

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>for NFL Network. I'd love for you to paint the picture.

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.399
<v Speaker 1>What how how hard is it working in TV? It's

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>you know what, people, because you always have people on

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 1>twit titter being people on Twitter, and everyone loves to

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>nitpick every single little thing that goes wrong, and nobody

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:11.800
<v Speaker 1>truly knows what is happening behind the scenes and how

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:15.240
<v Speaker 1>much is just like a tight a tight rope act.

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 1>And even just for instance, in one of the recent

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:23.280
<v Speaker 1>shows we did, at one point, everybody in the entire

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>production lost all capability to hear each other, and that

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>includes like all of the product, like the producers, the directors,

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 1>me as the host, all of the guys, like nobody

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 1>could hear anything. And at that point it's like, what

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>are you supposed to do? So there's just a lot

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>of moving parts. So when something like that happens and

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>things do go left, what do you for both of y'all?

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 1>What do you have to do? It's yeah, for a

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 1>soul for the analysts, because Colleen is the host and

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>being a host, it's kind of like being a general manager,

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>which is a general manager in football terms. Just like

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>being a fireman. You just put out fires, you don't

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 1>create them. You are just she's teeing us up. She's

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 1>got to be able to pivot, like she gotta be

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 1>able to pivot when somebody like me says something that

0:42:16.239 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 1>it's like, bro, you didn't go over that, because a

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of times we save we'll save some stuff when

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:27.399
<v Speaker 1>I say a pre production to what happens. A lot

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 1>of times in the pre production you don't hear the

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 1>authentic conversation because because you get a natural reaction. And

0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>then also too, and she knows I've said some stuff.

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>At times she's like ohision, and then she'll say something

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>or like well she have to funagle it where her

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.960
<v Speaker 1>teleprompter goes out. When your studio, yeah, you know what

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's like it's a lot of you have to

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>cover up any any mistakes that happen, and like a

0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of things happen when you're live. Sometimes producers will

0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 1>like when they when they hit your button to like

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 1>get in your I F. Basically when they you know,

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>when they talk to you, sometimes that button gets stuck

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and then you here in your ear the producer yelling

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 1>to like the director to do this, and all of

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>the checking in with the reporters and everything else, and

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>you're still trying to complete a sentence and figure out

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>like if it makes sense while hearing all of these

0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>other conversations at the same time, and you know it's

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:36.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a lot that's happening. It's a lot of input.

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not just makeup, lipstick and and and chapstick. It

0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 1>requires a lot of film watching, and Klie writes her

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:49.839
<v Speaker 1>own script for for a lot of the stuff that

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>she does, so she does a lot of things that

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people it is just not showing up

0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and look pretty a smile. So what is the biggest

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>misconception of working on TV or even something that you

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:04.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't mention. I think that's I think that is the

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that's it right there. I mean that we just show

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:09.359
<v Speaker 1>up and all we do is put on makeup and

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 1>then read off of a teleprompter um and just regurgitate

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>stuff that producers tell us in our ear. And like,

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:21.720
<v Speaker 1>let me just be clear, there there is not somebody

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>that is sitting there feeding us information because they have

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff that they are doing, and that

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>is like the least of their concerns, and they're trying

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>to keep the show on track, and we need to

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>be able to respond like normal human beings and have

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.720
<v Speaker 1>a conversation and be prepared and know the subject matter

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and be able to pivot when there is breaking news.

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of the times I write scripts, but

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't totally love to be scripted. I like to

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>be off the cuff. I like to add lib a

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:57.879
<v Speaker 1>lot more. And so during Quarantine, when we were doing

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 1>all of the shows from home, like I had so

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.400
<v Speaker 1>many people tweet me and be like, oh, anybody can

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 1>just sit there with a teleprompter, and it's like, hey, buddy,

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't have one at my house. Like all of

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>this is like off the top of my head, and

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 1>that requires a lot of work. And I think a

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of times I feel like when I'm preparing for

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 1>games and shows, I almost feel like I'm back in

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:22.919
<v Speaker 1>college again because it just feels like there's so much

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>work goes into it and I'm studying and I feel

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>like I never left school because it changes every couple

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 1>of days and you have to refresh and after every game,

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 1>there's new storylines and you have to get back in.

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 1>There's never a break during the season. It is a

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:42.399
<v Speaker 1>grind and it goes fast, but you've gotta you've gotta

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>keep up because if you don't, you will just get

0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 1>swallowed alive. Today I was on another podcast and I

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>was talking to a female but one was interesting. When

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I was doing this podcast on women in in in fashion,

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the woman said that there's not a lot of mental

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 1>wars or people that she felt comfortable with to be

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of seek out help. So what I'm

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:14.240
<v Speaker 1>asking you, Colleen, is in the war in the job

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you're in, how much collaboration do female host or female

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 1>in general working in the sports area rely support each

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 1>other on a day to daily basis. I think it's changed, um,

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and it is changing. Okay, hold on, hold on, is changing?

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:43.239
<v Speaker 1>So rewind that too. If it's changing, that must mean

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.919
<v Speaker 1>obviously you're gonna say it's changing for the good. Then

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 1>what was it before before you start to paint this

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:54.760
<v Speaker 1>rosie pitch or give me to give me the real real? Now? Yeah,

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>well there there's You know, there wasn't a ton of

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>us when I first started, and at least like in

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the places where I worked. You know, if I'm in sports,

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm I might be I might only be the I

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 1>might be the only woman sort of in the room

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times, so when there was another woman,

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:21.799
<v Speaker 1>it would be it wasn't like friendly or cordial. A

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:26.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of times it was kind of a competitive type thing.

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's sort of set up that way

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of instances because you there are so

0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:37.320
<v Speaker 1>few positions, and there are so few positions in general,

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>and then so few positions for women, and you know,

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>when you're when you're competing with the people that you're

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>working with, it kind of creates this really weird dynamic.

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:52.919
<v Speaker 1>And as I've been in the business and as I've

0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 1>gotten more comfortable and confident in my position, um and,

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that things in the world have changed a

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit more. I think that women in general are

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 1>becoming more supportive of each other than than they were previously,

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:12.560
<v Speaker 1>at least I have experienced that. Um So, I think

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 1>that now it seems like there's more, Hey, there's strengthen

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 1>us working together rather than us working against each other,

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and like, look what we can do or if we

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>bring all of like all of our supporters, you know

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and and and people that follow us together and we

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 1>could create something even better. Um. But yeah, when I

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:38.919
<v Speaker 1>first started, there was very few female mentors. I really

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:42.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't have any. But I do remember when I first

0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 1>got when I first walked into the Eagles locker room, um,

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 1>my first time in the locker room ever. There was

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:53.839
<v Speaker 1>one uh woman in there who she was awesome and

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.319
<v Speaker 1>she worked for one of the newspapers at the time

0:48:56.320 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 1>in town. And she pulled me aside and she was like, look,

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to be in here like this is

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>this is what I'll tell you to like to help

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 1>you kind of watch your back and and she was

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:09.920
<v Speaker 1>like told me the told me the different players too

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that are more prickly, told me, like, you know who

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>who I should deal with like pr wise, Like which

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 1>guys are going to be less creepy than other guys

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and kind of gave me laid the groundwork for me

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:26.799
<v Speaker 1>um and kind of helped me steer clear of potential

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>obstacles and pitfalls and stuff. And that meant so much

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to me, just that one conversation, but there weren't a

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of them. Are calling a last segment that we'll

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:38.879
<v Speaker 1>wrap up with. It's called the Deep Three. And so

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 1>what we'll do is we'll ask you three questions that

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>basically beyond who you are within your industry, getting to

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 1>know who Colleen Wolfie is. So se me to give

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you the first question. If you can write a letter

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:56.239
<v Speaker 1>to younger Colleen right now, you can go backwards and

0:49:56.320 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you can prepare her for this moment, what would you write?

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 1>And I would tell her to relax, tell her to

0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 1>stop stressing out about all of these small things because

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:15.359
<v Speaker 1>they don't matter. They're not going to matter. There's going

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.400
<v Speaker 1>to be way bigger things that you're going to have

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:20.719
<v Speaker 1>to deal with and have fun now and live it

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 1>up and just be yourself. There were so many times

0:50:25.120 --> 0:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>when I first started that I was trying to be

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:33.800
<v Speaker 1>something because you get told by supervisors and managers and consultants,

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:38.240
<v Speaker 1>and you know, everybody is trying to get their opinion

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:40.279
<v Speaker 1>in and they want you to be a certain way.

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:41.880
<v Speaker 1>They want you to look a certain way, sound a

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 1>certain way, talk a certain way, say certain things, and

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>ultimately you just gotta be you. And that is I mean,

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I I don't know how to be anything else but me.

0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:55.759
<v Speaker 1>And the more that I was able to get comfortable

0:50:55.960 --> 0:51:00.840
<v Speaker 1>in my own skin and be comfortable being uncomfortable. Then

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 1>that's when I kind of found success. Prety good right there.

0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Now that you've navigated through your career, how will you

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>make it easier for women coming up underneath you to rise? Well?

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I talked to a lot of I talked to a

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:21.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of girls that are, you know, in college. Now

0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I get a lot of people that reach out to

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:29.799
<v Speaker 1>me on Twitter and Instagram, And it is a great

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:33.560
<v Speaker 1>question because there's no like, there's no great way to

0:51:33.680 --> 0:51:37.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of bring people up, Like if I had some

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:40.400
<v Speaker 1>type of mentor program, that would be the goal for

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:43.799
<v Speaker 1>me to help other women break in because normally I

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 1>just I take a look at their stuff. They're they're reels,

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:50.600
<v Speaker 1>some of their clips, and I give them some notes

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and I try and set them up with meetings at

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:58.520
<v Speaker 1>different places or agents things like that, just just little things.

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:01.880
<v Speaker 1>But ultimately, it is such a it's such a fickle business.

0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:06.359
<v Speaker 1>And the thing that the thing that's the most frustrating

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:11.839
<v Speaker 1>about this business is it's not a meritocracy, and it's

0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>really subjective and it really depends a lot on right place,

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 1>right time, who the people in charge are, what they like,

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and if they like you, and there's so much turnover

0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:28.680
<v Speaker 1>that happens to so things change so quickly, and so

0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it it's it is a really difficult industry,

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and I think more than anything else, what women need

0:52:35.640 --> 0:52:41.000
<v Speaker 1>is just support. You and John both working in sports world.

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:45.560
<v Speaker 1>What impact do you want to have? Wants you to

0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:52.280
<v Speaker 1>are sitting on the porch with the dogs somewhere for now,

0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 1>how would that conversation go looking back? Well, I just

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to be able to look back on everything

0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that I did, and I want to be able to

0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:10.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like we we made people laugh, we made people

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:15.440
<v Speaker 1>feel better like this, there's so there's so much that's negative,

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>especially right now. I think in the world that if

0:53:19.480 --> 0:53:24.080
<v Speaker 1>if we're able to kind of help people at all,

0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:26.399
<v Speaker 1>just brighten their day even a little bit, I feel

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>like that to me is a huge, a huge impact.

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I I there have been people that you reach

0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:38.720
<v Speaker 1>out to me and and say that certain certain things,

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.799
<v Speaker 1>certain shows have like helped them. I mean, I do

0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a podcast another podcast around the NFL um at work,

0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and one of the guys right now on it is

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:53.920
<v Speaker 1>going through cancer, Chris Westling, and he's talked very openly

0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:58.200
<v Speaker 1>about his battle and the impact that he's had on

0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:01.640
<v Speaker 1>people listening is just been and you can't even put

0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:04.400
<v Speaker 1>it into words. And I think if you're able to

0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:07.360
<v Speaker 1>affect like even one or two people in your life,

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:18.759
<v Speaker 1>then you've done You've done your job. Here, Colleen talks

0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:24.279
<v Speaker 1>about how she basically fell into sports media. Yeah, you

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:27.320
<v Speaker 1>have a much different journey. You played in the NFL

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.680
<v Speaker 1>for a number of years. How did you end up

0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:34.040
<v Speaker 1>working now with NFL Networks? I fell into it too,

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:39.320
<v Speaker 1>is I was approached by a guy named Taylor's Arzer

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 1>here in Charlotte, North Carolina. He asked me to come

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 1>in on in the in the studio w f n Z,

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:50.839
<v Speaker 1>and so I started doing that and I was like, hey,

0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:52.880
<v Speaker 1>let me take you internships. So trying to work the

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 1>boards a little bit, and then I was getting on

0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:57.360
<v Speaker 1>air for like ten or fifteen minutes. Then I started

0:54:57.360 --> 0:54:59.799
<v Speaker 1>coming in once a once a month. Then he had

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a an agent that he referred me to, so I

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:07.720
<v Speaker 1>went with them, talked to him, and then they worked

0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:13.160
<v Speaker 1>a deal and I started working for XM Radio NFL channel.

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Did that once a week from like seven am to

0:55:16.200 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>ten and then I was um went to Baltimore and

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:24.279
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, Um, Mike and Mike asked me

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:26.640
<v Speaker 1>to come in. I had a contract with them. I

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<v Speaker 1>was doing eight appearances on the Monday after a game,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would fly to Bristol and do it, do

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<v Speaker 1>the morning show. And then I got some great advice

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<v Speaker 1>from Sage Still Um, she's female anchor for ESPN. Awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>she's cool as a fan. Um, she's much cooler than

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<v Speaker 1>her big brother Chad. Still with the with the Baltimore Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, she was like, look, figure out what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do. If this is what you want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't think this is what I wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was getting the opportunities to do it. She says,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what you do. Go and most guys

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<v Speaker 1>when they come on, they just really show up for

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<v Speaker 1>that little segment. She was like, no, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell them you want to be a part of the

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<v Speaker 1>whole production or at least observed. So don't go in

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<v Speaker 1>just for your segment. Because if you have a show

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<v Speaker 1>that's on from six am to eleven and you come

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<v Speaker 1>in at the eight thirty nine o'clock hour, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>blown and going for a long time. What time do

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<v Speaker 1>they show up? What time, what's the process of production meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this? What is that? And it made so

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<v Speaker 1>much sense. We end up being on the phone for

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<v Speaker 1>about forty five minutes and she told me what to do,

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<v Speaker 1>how to do it, and then you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>are one built for this business, do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it? And I really enjoyed it because it had

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<v Speaker 1>a process. It has something that coming out of a

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<v Speaker 1>process field job, which is football. You show up on

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<v Speaker 1>you play on Sunday, but you show up on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>you get some weights or treatment, Tuesday's off, Wednesday first first,

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<v Speaker 1>first and second down, Thursday third, third down and long

0:57:17.680 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and fringe, Friday's red zone, Saturday's walked through, Sundays the

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<v Speaker 1>game right and so just not having that process anymore. Retirement.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went through that and interview with CBS NFL. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually you want here a dirty secret, do tail?

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<v Speaker 1>Do tail? So I was interviewing with Fox Sports with

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<v Speaker 1>Undisputed and all that stuff. So I was interviewing with them,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had a lunch hour and a half that

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<v Speaker 1>we slid into a restaurant down in um down. Where

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<v Speaker 1>was it down in Holly? Uh? I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>a Hollywood area of Cover City area and had lunch

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<v Speaker 1>with the hiring guys with NFL Network, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>used a highly contested free agent had But later I

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<v Speaker 1>had dinner with Fox Sports, but I was doing an

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Fox Sports who was offering me, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I had an interview with NFL Network and ended up

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<v Speaker 1>in They interviewed me, but I ended up interviewing them,

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<v Speaker 1>and so what got me the job was they said, hey, um,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think. I said, well, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>guys don't have a presence on the East coast. Let

0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:39.720
<v Speaker 1>me be your presence on the East Coast. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come to l A on a consistent basis. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I will do is every major event I'll be there,

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<v Speaker 1>Combine wanted training camp, I'll do it, super Bowl there,

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<v Speaker 1>intersit down interviews. But I'm not coming to l A

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<v Speaker 1>on the consistent basis. I don't want to do that

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday show because I got a family. Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, really, next day, you know, had dinner. Crazy

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<v Speaker 1>part is Fox Sports pay for my flight, play for

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<v Speaker 1>my whole til you dirty dog and basically got me

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<v Speaker 1>the job or NFL Network. Now, I interviewed with Fox

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<v Speaker 1>UM as well. They wanted me to do the other

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<v Speaker 1>show that Sunday morning, but again that's l A. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was cool and interview with ESPN a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but they had some things going on internally, they were

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<v Speaker 1>shaping and changing up and they were trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out Um. They didn't really have a place for me UM,

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<v Speaker 1>so that didn't work out. And and that's how I

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<v Speaker 1>got with NFL Network. That's how I got That's how

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<v Speaker 1>I got the job. I got some great um advice

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<v Speaker 1>from family friends, and that's how I got my job.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was it was really started at a local

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<v Speaker 1>radio station and man moved up. So without w F

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<v Speaker 1>and Z and Taylor's oarsla so UM, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>never got I would never be a media guy. So

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<v Speaker 1>both of y'all small humble beginnings radio stations and then

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<v Speaker 1>putting the grind in and then look where you just

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<v Speaker 1>fall into place. That's dope, man, that's a dope. There's dope,

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<v Speaker 1>just a long, long journey. It's not well tracked. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not the well traveled round and and it like we

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<v Speaker 1>said before, people want to see the fully baked version,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't want to see what it took when

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<v Speaker 1>you were just in yeast mode. See how play that? Yeah? Yeah, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>that don't cook like that. I'm pretty good. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>make I don't make. You don't. That's some good right there.

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