WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: New Week Begins 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, the folks, welcome to this episode of Amy and

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<v Speaker 1>TJ covering the Diddy trial roads. We have been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this for the past week. We got the first

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<v Speaker 1>full week of testimony. No doubts at all, Cassie Venturists

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<v Speaker 1>testimony is gonna be talked about for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>We wrote it talking about it bombshell after bombshell after

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<v Speaker 1>bombshell for days on the stand.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And she, of course is the prosecution's star witness,

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<v Speaker 2>and she is the one who brought the lawsuit to

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<v Speaker 2>begin with, that created the criminal investigation that ensued and

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<v Speaker 2>is the reason why Sean Ditty Combs is on trial

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<v Speaker 2>now facing five federal charges.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she finished on Friday. We should let folks know.

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<v Speaker 1>She wrapped up and they made sure they had her

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<v Speaker 1>done by noon, by lunchtime on Friday because frankly, she's

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<v Speaker 1>eight and a half months pregnant and they were concerned

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<v Speaker 1>she might have the baby this weekend. That did nice.

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<v Speaker 2>She did not know, but you know, three days of

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<v Speaker 2>testimony for anyone testifying about anything would be overwhelming and difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>But she was reliving the most atrocious, grotesque, unimaginable events

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't think anyone could have an easy time retelling,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet she's doing it while she's eight and a

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<v Speaker 2>half months pregnant, and she's talking about suicidal thoughts. She's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about parties, sex parties that lasted for four days,

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<v Speaker 2>physical injuries, traumatic mental injuries. I mean this and all

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<v Speaker 2>with her husband in the courtroom watching her detail heinous,

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<v Speaker 2>heinous crimes that she says happened to her.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's where we finished up on Friday with

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<v Speaker 1>her testimony. But then they called someone else down, Richard,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a member of Danity Kane, the group that

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<v Speaker 1>was on making the band that did he put together.

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<v Speaker 1>She testified, and we'll get into some of her testimony

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<v Speaker 1>in just a moment, but as far as we understood,

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<v Speaker 1>she was being cross examined today the day the recording

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<v Speaker 1>this here on Monday, so we'll have some more details

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<v Speaker 1>of her testimony when the day concludes. But rome's one

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<v Speaker 1>major I guess, I guess a major development on Friday

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<v Speaker 1>when Cassie finished with all of her testimony that was

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<v Speaker 1>again bombshell after bombshell, graphic and gripping. We then heard

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<v Speaker 1>from her personally. She didn't come out and to an

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<v Speaker 1>interview but her attorney came out and released a statement

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<v Speaker 1>and a pretty powerful statement that gave us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of an insight into just what the experience had

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<v Speaker 1>been for her in testifying for the past several days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so she and this is a very smart thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I think the last thing she would want

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<v Speaker 2>to do is stand in front of reporters or do

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<v Speaker 2>an interview after everything she went through. So she released

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<v Speaker 2>a statement that everyone could read, and she got to

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<v Speaker 2>say what she wanted to. She said, this week has

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<v Speaker 2>been extremely challenging, and that would be an understatement completely

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<v Speaker 2>at this point for her. She said, this week has

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<v Speaker 2>been extremely challenging, but also remarkably empowering. She said that

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<v Speaker 2>she hoped that her story my testimony has given strength

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<v Speaker 2>and a voice to other survivors and can help others

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<v Speaker 2>who have suffered to speak up and also heal from

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<v Speaker 2>abuse and fear. That's remarkable. And she also went on

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<v Speaker 2>to say for me, the more I heal, the more

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember, and the more I can remember, the

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<v Speaker 2>more I will never forget. I want to thank my

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<v Speaker 2>family and my advocates for their unwavering support, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for all the kindness and encouragement that I have received,

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<v Speaker 2>that is, you know, you felt for her when she

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<v Speaker 2>was on the stand, but I thought her her statement

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<v Speaker 2>was very empowering to so many other people who were

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<v Speaker 2>listening to her. A lot of people we heard who

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<v Speaker 2>had nothing to do with Shaun Didecombs but have experienced

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<v Speaker 2>their own traumas actually felt triggered by hearing her actually

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<v Speaker 2>get on the stand and talk about what she went

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<v Speaker 2>through as an abuse victim.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've had a conversation here here lately, plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>conversations about where do people draw the line between someone

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<v Speaker 1>being an accomplice and someone being a willing participant and

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<v Speaker 1>someone actually being a vict them And it's probably not

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<v Speaker 1>as simple as this or that one way or another.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've talked to other people who look at Cassie

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<v Speaker 1>and other who who were around did he who I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people would classify as victims. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we have other people saying these people were complicit as well.

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<v Speaker 1>These folks went along with it and in some way

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<v Speaker 1>were accomplices. It's a very complicated conversation to have, but

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<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't just be black or white. You're either you're

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<v Speaker 1>on this person's side or not on that person's side.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just this case is proving to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>more complicated, a lot more excuse me, complicated than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, there is a there is a line, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even a blurred line at this point as you point

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<v Speaker 2>out between being a victim and being an accomplice at

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<v Speaker 2>one point or just being complicit. You know, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>there is a lot of gray area, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who have been groomed and who

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<v Speaker 2>were young at the time can absolutely understand that blurry line.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Ventur did finish her statement, and this

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<v Speaker 2>was this was important too, because she's asking, she's asking

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<v Speaker 2>for privacy. She said, I'm glad to put this ch

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<v Speaker 2>after of my life to rest as I turned to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on the conclusion of my pregnancy. I asked for

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<v Speaker 2>privacy for me and for my growing family. She already

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<v Speaker 2>has children, now she has another baby on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And the hope is that by her actually coming forward,

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<v Speaker 2>putting a face to it, saying what happened to her

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<v Speaker 2>in unbelievable detail, that she can finally put this to

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<v Speaker 2>bed and get justice.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what they are trying to establish this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've had a lot of conversations with folks ropes

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<v Speaker 1>who are questioning, like, wait a minute, this is I

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<v Speaker 1>see him as an abuser on the video, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is not what this case is about. So why is

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<v Speaker 1>she up there speaking and testifying so much to abuse

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<v Speaker 1>when he's not charged for domestic violence. But they are

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<v Speaker 1>establishing their case a racketeering case, They're establishing a prostitution case,

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<v Speaker 1>a sex trafficking case by showing that this guy was

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<v Speaker 1>in command and control. She has more insights into these

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<v Speaker 1>free colls than maybe anybody, and so they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>establish a case by showing, hey, yes, she went through this,

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<v Speaker 1>she experienced this. That sets whatever up for the jury

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<v Speaker 1>who was going to have an emotional reaction to her.

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<v Speaker 1>But folks, they are building a case, their case that racketeering,

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<v Speaker 1>that sex trafficking. She is very much in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of that. Even she wasn't a victim of it, she

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<v Speaker 1>can establish I guess the whole the coersion, the racketeering,

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<v Speaker 1>the rico case that they are trying to put together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she absolutely admitted to seeking out some of these

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<v Speaker 2>male escorts and bringing them in and then doing what

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<v Speaker 2>she was told. She says. By Sean Diddy, Coombs herself.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we've talked about this a lot because

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<v Speaker 2>her husband, Alex Fine, was asked to be removed from

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<v Speaker 2>the courtroom while she actually detailed what the most heinous

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<v Speaker 2>thing that was done to her, perhaps you could say,

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<v Speaker 2>at least from a legal standpoint, And again Diddy is

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<v Speaker 2>not charged with this specific crime, but she said that

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<v Speaker 2>she was raped by him. And that was the one

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<v Speaker 2>moment that her husband walked out of the courtroom, and

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<v Speaker 2>not because he wanted to, but because the defense and

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecution came to an agreement that he would do

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<v Speaker 2>so because Combe's lawyers did not want him in the

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<v Speaker 2>courtorate because they say they might actually call him back

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<v Speaker 2>to the stand when they get their turn at defending

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<v Speaker 2>Shan Didnycomb. So we will see what happens with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the meantime, her husband did also release a statement.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't release a joint statement. They put out statements

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<v Speaker 2>separate from one another. But I actually really loved to

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<v Speaker 2>hear what Alex had to say, so we're gonna read

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<v Speaker 2>them for you. Here. He said, over the past five days,

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<v Speaker 2>the world has gotten to witness the strength and bravery

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<v Speaker 2>of my wife freely being herself and freeing herself of

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<v Speaker 2>her past. There have been speculation online surrounding how it

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<v Speaker 2>must feel for me to sit there and to listen

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<v Speaker 2>to my wife's testimony. I have felt so many things

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there. I have felt tremendous pride and overwhelming love

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<v Speaker 2>for Cassie. I have felt profound anger that she has

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<v Speaker 2>been subjected to sitting in front of a person who

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<v Speaker 2>tried to break her him and all of those who

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<v Speaker 2>helped him along the way. Please know this, you did not.

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<v Speaker 2>You did not break her spirit nor her smile that

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<v Speaker 2>lights up every room. You did not break the soul

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<v Speaker 2>of a mother who gives the best hugs and plays

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<v Speaker 2>the silliest games with our little girls. You did not

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<v Speaker 2>break the woman who has made me a better man.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, That's some powerful stuff. I think that's something

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<v Speaker 2>that I think every wife would want to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>the man who is standing by her and with her

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<v Speaker 2>detailing the most horrific time of her life.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to remember you all, this is the gentleman.

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<v Speaker 1>This is her husband, yes, but this is the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who did He paid for as her personal trainer initially.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how he became came into her life and

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<v Speaker 1>became a friend. This is also the guy. According to Cassie,

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<v Speaker 1>they were dating when the alleged rape took place. She

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<v Speaker 1>was already dating her now husband when she went and

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<v Speaker 1>had a goodbye dinner with Ditty one night, she took

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<v Speaker 1>her back to her home, and that's what she said

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<v Speaker 1>the alleged rape took place. So her husband has been around.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she told him about this, but as part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason that they didn't want him in that courtroom,

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<v Speaker 1>he has some knowledge of what was going on in

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<v Speaker 1>her life around that time because they were dating.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correct, and to that point they had been dating.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how serious they were dating at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>because then she did admit on the stand that after

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<v Speaker 2>the alleged rape that she did have consensual sex again

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<v Speaker 2>with Diddy after that. But ultimately, obviously they stopped dating

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<v Speaker 2>and she did continue on with Alex and they got

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<v Speaker 2>married and now they have children. She has another one

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<v Speaker 2>on the way. Obviously. Alex's statement goes on from there.

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<v Speaker 2>He went on to write, I did not save Cassie,

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<v Speaker 2>as some have said. To say that is an insult

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<v Speaker 2>to the years of painful work my wife has done

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<v Speaker 2>to save herself Cassie saved Cassie. She alone broke free

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<v Speaker 2>from abuse, coercion, violence, and threats. She did the work

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<v Speaker 2>of fighting the demons that only a demon himself could

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<v Speaker 2>have done to her. All I have done is love

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<v Speaker 2>her as she has loved me. Her life is now

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<v Speaker 2>surrounded by love, laughter, and our family. This horrific chapter

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<v Speaker 2>is forever put behind us, and we will not be

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<v Speaker 2>making additional statements. We appreciate all the love and support

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<v Speaker 2>we have received, and we ask that you respect our

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<v Speaker 2>privacy as we welcome our son into a world that

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<v Speaker 2>is now safer because of his mom. That's powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>This I don't know what to because this might not

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<v Speaker 1>be over necessarily. There are a lot of tentacles to

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<v Speaker 1>this story, and there are a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>are still in the midst of legal wranglings of some

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<v Speaker 1>kind having to do with day civil lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 2>How many civil lawsuits are there.

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<v Speaker 1>We couldn't keep up. It was dozens because they were happening,

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<v Speaker 1>so that I don't know the official count. There are

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<v Speaker 1>so many, but Cassie's name is going to come up

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<v Speaker 1>plenty in those lawsuits and in stories in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are plenty of people who do believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie was complicit. I don't think anybody's arguing that she

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<v Speaker 1>was a victim at all. But after hearing her testimony,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't help but get emotional and your heart go out.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, if you see the video she's refered of

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<v Speaker 1>this man. But to think, you know, as it's over,

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<v Speaker 1>she can turn the page. She can like you can

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<v Speaker 1>close this chapter of what you're doing with Diddy and

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to have a baby soon, and it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like everything's going to be washed away, but it's you

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<v Speaker 1>would hope that for her and her family. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>they find some peace in this very important time for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is so much of this story, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>learning so much more as we're covering it day in

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<v Speaker 1>and day out, that this is going to be with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people for a long time, the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of their lives. But the legal part might be with

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<v Speaker 1>them for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>You do make a good point because to have that

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<v Speaker 2>many lawsuits and have to have her be an integral

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<v Speaker 2>part of them, because she was, by all accounts, with

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<v Speaker 2>Diddy by his side throughout all of these so called

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<v Speaker 2>freak offs and participated in them. And most people would

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<v Speaker 2>say willingly, But the question is is it something that

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing willingly if you're under the influence, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>under the threat of your own life, under the threat

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<v Speaker 2>of harm by him, physical harm, which again is undeniable.

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<v Speaker 2>That certainly happened to her without question. But where does

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<v Speaker 2>the responsibility lie. Where does the legal responsibility lie with

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<v Speaker 2>someone when they're being coerced, when they're being traumatized, when

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<v Speaker 2>they're being abused, to then be able to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't happen to someone else, or you don't participate

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<v Speaker 2>in an event or in a freak off where someone

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<v Speaker 2>else is harmed for someone else is abused. It's very tricky,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very complicated, and it certainly is not a black

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<v Speaker 2>or white issue.

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<v Speaker 1>And we would really encourage people. I know there are

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<v Speaker 1>salacious headlines. They've been out there. As soon as he

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<v Speaker 1>was arrested, all you saw was baby oil, baby oil,

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<v Speaker 1>baby oil. Look, this goes way beyond some damn baby oil.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so important to have a conversation that goes

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<v Speaker 1>much more in depth than just the headline. So we

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<v Speaker 1>do we encourage everybody. Please, folks, don't just stop at

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<v Speaker 1>a salacious headline and listen to some of these stories,

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<v Speaker 1>listen to some of these people, listen to go read

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this testimony if you get a chance to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just this is so complex. Fame and power and

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<v Speaker 1>coersion and money and sex and kinks and drugs and consent.

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<v Speaker 1>All these things are playing and it's just not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on this side or that side. It's just not that someone.

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<v Speaker 2>The more Tju and I learned about this, the more

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<v Speaker 2>people we talk to, the more interviews we have, the

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<v Speaker 2>more testimony we read, the more my heart just hurts.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think about all of the folks who were victims,

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<v Speaker 2>truly victims. They were young, they were hungry, they were inexperience,

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to be famous, they wanted to do their art,

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted to get into this industry, and Sean Diddy

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<v Speaker 2>Combs was their way in. And so you do what

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<v Speaker 2>you're told. You follow along because you think that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to do. And sometimes you know, when you're young,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't follow your gut. You do what someone tells

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<v Speaker 2>you to do. And that is so much of what

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<v Speaker 2>we have been hearing, and that's what just breaks your heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyone who's a parent out there anyone who's ever tried

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<v Speaker 2>to make it in the entertainment industry or who has

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<v Speaker 2>a child who wants to This is some scary stuff

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<v Speaker 2>because it is far reaching. It went on for decades

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<v Speaker 2>and no one spoke up enough where they were actually

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<v Speaker 2>heard and believed, where any sort of policing authority even

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<v Speaker 2>got involved. I mean, that's what's so mind blowing to me.

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<v Speaker 2>The more people we talk to TJ, the more people

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<v Speaker 2>who knew about it. There were videos, there wasn't this

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just rumors or gossip, there was actual evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was fear. We talked to say, fear you're

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<v Speaker 1>fearful of your career not taking off, or fearful of

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<v Speaker 1>losing a career, but you have we I think every

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<v Speaker 1>person we talked to has a physical fear. They had

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<v Speaker 1>a real fear of being physically harmed in some way

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<v Speaker 1>by Diddy or his circle of folks. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>that much power in what he was doing at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, these we just encourage you while to please

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the stories, listen to people, and and don't

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<v Speaker 1>be so inclined to say I'm on this side or

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<v Speaker 1>that side, team this person or team that person. That

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<v Speaker 1>always sucks when those come out. We do want to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know though, that Dawn Richard that we mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>she did get on the stand a prosecution witness. She

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<v Speaker 1>was a member of Dannity Kane. But she has been

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<v Speaker 1>testifying Robes that she witnessed a particular incident in which

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<v Speaker 1>did he threw a skillet that were making eggs, actually

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<v Speaker 1>threw a skillet at her and she curled up on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground in a fetal position trying to protect herself

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<v Speaker 1>from him. She went on to testify that he actually

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<v Speaker 1>dragged her by the hair upstairs after that. At that

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<v Speaker 1>point she heard things breaking and fighting and yelling and screaming.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's been a lot of what she was testifying

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<v Speaker 1>to And again Monday, as we were recording this, she

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<v Speaker 1>was back on the stand this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was being cross examined, and we heard from

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<v Speaker 2>the defense team questioning her because look, we've seen this

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, and this is nothing new when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to people who have claimed to be abused. Memories just

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<v Speaker 2>go away just in order to survive, in order to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with you compartmentalize, and then you forget. So his

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<v Speaker 2>defense team was pointing out she wasn't as open about

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<v Speaker 2>the drug use and the narcotics and the ketamine and

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<v Speaker 2>the cocaine and just all of the things we're hearing

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<v Speaker 2>about until recently, and she went out and said that

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<v Speaker 2>the more and this is actually kind of what Alex

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<v Speaker 2>was saying about his own wife's testimony, the further she

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<v Speaker 2>gets away from it, the more she starts to remember.

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<v Speaker 2>But initially she just pushed everything down and away and

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely forgot it because she wanted to. And so now

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<v Speaker 2>the memories are coming back. Now she's remembering more abuses,

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<v Speaker 2>more violations, more drug use, and so they're questioning that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're questioning her credibility because she has changed her story.

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<v Speaker 2>She has added more detail and given more scenarios of

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<v Speaker 2>what happened that she hadn't initially.

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<v Speaker 1>That's their job as a defensive team. You can it

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<v Speaker 1>always happens, right. You hear one side and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness, yes he's a monster, and you hear

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<v Speaker 1>the other side and they put a little doubt in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what's happening. We will continue to keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on what's happening with this trial. It is what

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<v Speaker 1>everybody ropes. Even you don't have to turn on a TV.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have any friend, you only have to look

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<v Speaker 1>at your phone. Anybody in your world, everybody's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this trial.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and because you know, so many people claim to

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<v Speaker 2>have been hurt, not just hurt, but devastated lives, ruined careers,

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<v Speaker 2>ruined mental health, like just blown to shreds. This has

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<v Speaker 2>been life altering for a lot of folks. And some

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<v Speaker 2>of the folks whose names you might not ever hear,

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<v Speaker 2>who don't want to insert their names and don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to raise their hand and don't want to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the testimony or the lawsuits, they're out there too.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, it's remarkable when you start to really

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<v Speaker 2>really investigate what may have happened for decades. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>best way I can describe it as I just it's sickening,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's eye opening, and I think it's important to

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<v Speaker 2>remember and to recognize that this happens, and we all

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<v Speaker 2>have to be a part of making sure it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to give people a voice, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>believe people at times, and we have to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that the right people are investigated, not just because you're powerful,

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<v Speaker 2>they're rich, that you somehow get to evade justice or

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<v Speaker 2>you get to be above the law, and we're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>that all play out in court, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, so folks, please stick with us. We will continue

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<v Speaker 1>to keep you updated about the ditty trial. But now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm TJ. Holmes, and I.

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