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Speaker 1: Well, let's look at politics now. Uh. I don't know

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hurricane, but we're waiting for some

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Speaker 1: kind of storm of debate this weekend. Uh. And of

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Speaker 1: course there's an earlier storm this week for Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: as his vice presidential running mate said that Mr Trump

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Speaker 1: no longer wants to impose a temporary ban on Muslim

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Speaker 1: immigration United States. Mike Meets is back executive editor for

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics, So let's start with that story. What's going

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Speaker 1: on Mike there? So this is, uh, this is kind

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Speaker 1: of a case study and how Trump has kind of

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Speaker 1: carried on his candidacy for a long time. He Um,

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Speaker 1: He's He's struck a lot of different positions, but the

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Speaker 1: one that was the most popular on this issue was

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Speaker 1: the emphatic Muslim ban that he announced last December that

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Speaker 1: powered from through the primaries. UM. I think something like

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Speaker 1: a majority of Republican voters in New New Hampshire and

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Speaker 1: other states agreed with the band and backed him for

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Speaker 1: the nomination, and then he started backing off of it

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Speaker 1: as he got closer to uh, the actual Republican convention. UM.

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Speaker 1: Even Mike Pence, who before he was the vice presidential

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Speaker 1: nominee UH said that this would be unconstitutional, and so

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Speaker 1: they shifted to another UH position, but never really disabowed

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Speaker 1: disavowed the old one. So Trump never said a Muslim

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Speaker 1: band is wrong and unconstitutional. I'd like to do this instead.

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Speaker 1: Now to this morning, Pence. UH, Pence did specifically say

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Speaker 1: that the Muslim band was out, Um, which might be

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Speaker 1: a surprise to a lot of his supporters. So he's

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Speaker 1: changed his mind or we don't know exactly what it state. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we know that Pence says Trump's changed his mind

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Speaker 1: and UH, but Trump himself hasn't said it. And as

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Speaker 1: you'll recall a few weeks ago with UM, when Trump

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Speaker 1: finally acknowledged that Barack Obama was born in America, you

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Speaker 1: could never quite know what's going on. And Trump's said

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Speaker 1: until he says it himself. So what about lace polls

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Speaker 1: seems like they're going from not so good too bad

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Speaker 1: a lot of them. Yeah, So I mean this this stretch, UM,

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Speaker 1: this bout stretch for Trump started UH two mondays ago

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Speaker 1: with his performance at the first presidential debate. UM. It

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Speaker 1: takes a little while for those kinds of things to

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Speaker 1: shake out and pulls. UM. You and pulls are noisy.

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Speaker 1: They you know, they jump up, they jump down. But

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Speaker 1: but I think a week and a half later, you're

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Speaker 1: starting to see his numbers across the board kind of

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Speaker 1: settle into pretty dangerous territory for someone who's people. One

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Speaker 1: poll stands out in your mind. Um, well, Pennsylvania has

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Speaker 1: definitely state he has to win. It was part of

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Speaker 1: his Rust Belt strategy. Whereas is his rhetoric came to

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Speaker 1: at uh you know these former manufacturing uh hubs uh

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Speaker 1: you know, would like especially in Pennsylvania, just hasn't been

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Speaker 1: on it. And that's because it's a different state than

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Speaker 1: the rest of the Rust Belts in terms of demography.

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Speaker 1: But in the Monmouth poll that was out yesterday the

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Speaker 1: day before, he was down ten points. And just to

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Speaker 1: give you a sense of how much that as, he's

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Speaker 1: down eleven points in New Jersey, which is just you know,

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Speaker 1: never state that either presidential Canada campaigns. And I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you mentioned New Jersey because I wanted to bring in

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Speaker 1: New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and his role uh in

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Speaker 1: the debate preparation the debate, which is of course scheduled

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Speaker 1: for Sunday evening. Sure, so Chris Christie kind of is uh,

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Speaker 1: it's just kind of a beloved character for for journalists

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Speaker 1: when it comes to town halls. He's held dozens of

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Speaker 1: town halls in the run up to running for president.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, of course, especially in New Hampshire. He

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Speaker 1: went up there on the weekends. You know, the national

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Speaker 1: news cameras weren't there to watch him, staying in a

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Speaker 1: room with fifty or a hundred supporters and just kind

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Speaker 1: just he just got really good at it. He's known

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Speaker 1: for the New Jersey too as governor. He he's affable.

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Speaker 1: He was a popular guy in high school and that

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Speaker 1: kind of comes through in all these uh these town halls.

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Speaker 1: He's just uh, he's just really good at it. And

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Speaker 1: he's one of Trump's top advisors. And so as Trump

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Speaker 1: sets his sights on this town hall style debate on

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Speaker 1: on Sunday with Hillary Clinton, he's, uh, he's getting some

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Speaker 1: advice from Chris Christie. What do you think they're telling him.

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Speaker 1: I think they're telling him that that thing is like, uh,

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Speaker 1: like body language matters, so that that's something that Trump

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Speaker 1: he's standing behind a podium. UM. In the town hall setting,

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Speaker 1: you're kind of walking around stage, you're talking directly to voters. You're, um,

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Speaker 1: you're you know, you're, you're using your hands to make points.

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Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of ways where uh, good

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Speaker 1: body language can get you a pretty far. Bad body

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Speaker 1: language could lead the wrong message and um. And so

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Speaker 1: I think that's one definite thing. The next thing is

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Speaker 1: kind of just the art of retail politics, which is

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Speaker 1: something that I don't think, uh, there's ever been a

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Speaker 1: presidential nominee from a major party who has had less

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Speaker 1: experience uh doing retail politics, just you know, shaking hands

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Speaker 1: in a diner, um, getting to know normal voters. Uh

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Speaker 1: and uh. And it's something that Trump kind of doesn't

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Speaker 1: like to do. By his own admission, he said he's

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Speaker 1: a germophobe. You know, he doesn't really on a on

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Speaker 1: a get in there too much. UM. But those two

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Speaker 1: things are kind of really important when it comes to

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Speaker 1: coming across as as warm and relatable in that kind

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Speaker 1: of setting. Well, I want to thank you very much

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Speaker 1: Mike Nitza. He is executive editor for Bloomberg Politics. You

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Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter at Mike Nitze and I

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Speaker 1: double z a. Thank you very much for illuminating. I

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Speaker 1: guess we um have to wait until Sunday to see

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Speaker 1: whether that debate prep pays off. If you're listening to

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