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Speaker 1: Danielle the d Animal and Yannick Swegy Sara.

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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, and welcome to the Rene Stops Tennis Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We are live and in person in New York City.

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Speaker 2: We have just finished a lovely Easter Sunday in my

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Speaker 2: backyard whilst watching the men's final, and I am joined

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Speaker 2: by once again my great friend Andrea Pekovich. Peco, what

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Speaker 2: a great weight you were down in Miami. So first

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Speaker 2: of all, give me just your thoughts on being down

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Speaker 2: there and what it was like and scoop the.

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Speaker 1: Scoop, give me this, give me all the tea spilled

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Speaker 1: the tea. Well, first of all, thank you for having

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Speaker 1: me over for Easter. I would have been all alone

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Speaker 1: and you invited me. It's a really nice of view.

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Speaker 1: I came all the way from Brooklyn to Manhattan and yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I arrived. Unfortunately, my flight to was scheduled during

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Speaker 1: the women's final, which was really unfortunate. I know, so

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Speaker 1: you have to recap that for us the highlights yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but I couldn't see that. But all in all, it

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Speaker 1: was good vibes. The tournament looks much better the first

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Speaker 1: year when I played the Miami Open out in hard

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Speaker 1: Rock Stadium it used to be in Kibiskane. It was

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Speaker 1: literally in a parking lot. It was not nice. The

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Speaker 1: gym was in the basement, the courts were in the

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Speaker 1: parking lot. It looked terrible. You were surrounded by concrete.

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Speaker 1: There was no protection from the wind. It's always windy

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Speaker 1: in Florida, so it was kind of a mess. Now

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Speaker 1: the tournament looks great. They have all these stands outside.

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Speaker 1: The courts look beautiful. They have trees, they have palm trees,

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Speaker 1: so now the site looks really good. And the outside

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Speaker 1: courts were packed, packed, pack packed. But for some reason,

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Speaker 1: empty and that was really unfortunate. And during the night

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Speaker 1: it was great. It was packed. The atmosphere was amazing

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Speaker 1: all over the side. If you saw the crazy Andy

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Speaker 1: Mark match that lasted three hours and twenty five minutes

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Speaker 1: or so, you would have seen that was the vibe

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Speaker 1: on the outside court. So you had that atmosphere just

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Speaker 1: on stadium court. During the day sessions. For some reason,

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Speaker 1: there was something off and something missing. That was the

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Speaker 1: only little knock that I had, and that was unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, it was really fun being there. They

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Speaker 1: really they made the best that they can, considering that

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Speaker 1: it's still kind of in a parking lot. And now

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Speaker 1: you have all The one thing I will say that

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Speaker 1: like surrounded by the skeleton of the Formula one. So

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Speaker 1: you see bits and pieces of where the track either

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Speaker 3: Still up, but not in the full glory.

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Speaker 2: Oh, isn't it coming to Miami soon?

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Speaker 1: It's coming soon. Yeah, so you have it's not fully

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Speaker 1: it's like being surrounded by another sport event, but by

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Speaker 3: That was the only thing that was a little strange.

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Speaker 2: Well, you've got that, and then you've got the actual

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Speaker 1: Have two sporting events surrounding one sporting event that is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd been almost it'd be nice if they almost

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Speaker 2: built another stadium there, specifically for tennis.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it is like a cool I mean, you've

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Speaker 1: unfortunate because it is a football stadium. If you are

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Speaker 3: Far away from the tennis court.

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Speaker 1: But the atmosphere is kind of cool because the players

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Speaker 1: have sofas there with ten so the players are hanging

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Speaker 1: you know, you can you can sense it feels much

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Speaker 1: That was kind of strange. Now they made a great

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Speaker 1: But you know, you see the other sporting events kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think ideally it would be great to

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Speaker 2: Just because we're talking about suites, right, you make a

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Speaker 2: So I think what they're doing is amazing, and I

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Speaker 2: think trying. But I think ideally if they could build

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Speaker 2: the players were all said how happy they were. The

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Speaker 2: don't blame him in that regard. But look, as I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm know James Blake, who's a former player, and if

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Speaker 2: they're doing their best down there.

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Speaker 1: They are doing the best. It's a little bit unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: If they were single tournament in the middle of the calendar,

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Speaker 2: You're coming from the best tournament of the year, where.

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Speaker 1: A stadium and a tennis site was built with exactly

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Speaker 2: You're right. If Miami is played in July, it would

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that players can do anything.

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Speaker 1: I have to say, players love Miami, especially male players.

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Speaker 2: Wonder why, yeah, I wonder, I wonder why. We'll let

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Speaker 2: you think about that, viewers and listeners. I just want

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Speaker 2: to shout out to a gentleman that came up to

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Speaker 2: I love your podcast. So whoever that gentleman was, you

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Speaker 2: didn't give me your name, but you know exactly what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about. You're on basically twelfth and third and

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Speaker 2: there that notices me or Pecko, we always are very

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Speaker 2: happy and to hear those comments. But anyway, let's get

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Speaker 2: Sabalanka went through the last couple of weeks. Let's start there. Look,

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Speaker 2: it's been a tough month for her. She has not

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Speaker 1: She confirmed it on Instagram that they were no longer

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Speaker 2: You wonder how much that was also happening prior to

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Speaker 3: I was super tight, and she was wearing the hat.

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Speaker 2: We're talking like the guy killed himself. Yeah, Like it's

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Speaker 2: a tragedy, absolute tragedy. Yeah, and a you know, a

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Speaker 2: But nobody's talking about it to you. Everybody knew about

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, yeah, everyone.

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Speaker 1: I will say. What was really nice to see and

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Speaker 1: egotistical creatures in this world, but the tennis people really

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Speaker 1: won Eastbourne, she played quarters in Wimbledon. She played Semis

432
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: at the US Open, so she had a sneaky good

433
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 1: year and in the US Series Fratangelo, her fiance Bjorn,

434
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 1: he started coaching her and I could see a difference,

435
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, she's finally listening,

436
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: so I will give her dad. So let's give her

437
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: a few more weeks to adjust with the injury. She

438
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 1: hasn't played it. She has only played three four.

439
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: Met former champion of Charleston.

440
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Speaker 1: But she's nowhere near as frustrating as Caroline Garcia, the

441
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: most frush at She is the best server on the wtator.

442
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm not just throwing it out there. Her and Rebeckena

443
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: are on position one and two in every single serf department.

444
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 1: So first percentage points one, second percentage points one, service

445
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: games one, they exchanged one and two in every single department, right,

446
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: So her and Rebeckena are statistically speaking, the best servers return.

447
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: Garcia is ranked outside the top hundred. I swear to god,

448
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: we were looking at these stats. It was Martina Navratilova,

449
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: me and I don't remember who, and we was looking

450
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 1: at these stats and we couldn't believe our as she's

451
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: ranked one hundred and four in return stets on first

452
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: serf points one and she's ranked ninety seven ninety seven

453
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 1: on second return points one for the last six months.

454
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: And she refuses to take a step back. She refuses

455
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: and against the In the match against Danielle Collins, give me,

456
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: she won only one single point on the Danielle's first serf,

457
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: one single point the entire match, and her coach before

458
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: that point that she won, her coach got up and

459
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: screamed at her.

460
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 2: What do you scream?

461
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: Go back a step putah, go fucking back, take a

462
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: step back. She took a step back, she made the return,

463
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: she won the point, and then she went back to

464
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Speaker 1: the baseline and lost the next twenty seven points on

465
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Speaker 1: first serf that Danielle played. And I just if you

466
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: are if you are standing there and you're winning matches, sorry,

467
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 1: and you're winning points, and you're ranked in the top twenty,

468
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: and this is the way you play, more power to you.

469
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: But you're a top twenty player who can barely make

470
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: a return game. You have to ask yourself, what is happening.

471
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Speaker 2: That is crazy. That's a crazy stat Thank you for that.

472
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: And you know, if you're coach and you're seeing that,

473
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: and you're saying that to a play and they're not

474
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: responding to it, like, oh, maybe I should change my

475
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 2: positioning on the return, or maybe you should try something different.

476
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: Then you don't deserve to matches because why have a coach, Like, honestly,

477
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: that's just crazy. Anyway.

478
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: The thing with her is that, and I said it

479
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: a few times. The thing with her is and I

480
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: think that's her problem. She still wins matches because, as

481
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: we just mentioned, she's one of the best service in

482
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: the world, and if she somehow gets to a break

483
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: point and her positioning is threatening and somebody serves a

484
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: double fault, she will win the match because she serves

485
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: so well that it's really hard to break her. And

486
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: you will see she wins oftentimes matches six four sixty four,

487
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: one break each. You know. However, the problem is this

488
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: type of player has never gone further than quarterfinals in

489
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: a Grand Slam tournament. Why is that, or maybe she

490
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: made semis at the US Open ones, I'm not sure,

491
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: but why is that? She should have had five Grand

492
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Speaker 1: Slam titles. And the reason is if you play this

493
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: high risk of a game during a fortnight of a tournament,

494
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 1: a major tournament, is two weeks long. You will have

495
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: a bad day and other players w on a bad day,

496
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: and Garcia loses every single time. And that's why she's

497
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: never won a Grand Slam, because with the talent she has,

498
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: she should be a multiple major tournament.

499
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 3: Or at least have one.

500
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Speaker 1: One. Yes, but I think that's her, that's her problem

501
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: because on a seven days you saw it. You can

502
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: catch lightning in a bottle in seven days. And then

503
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: when she plays well, she's done it. She's done it

504
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: because she's yes, because she I mean she won Cincinnati

505
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: from Qualis and it was like she was serving so

506
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: and that's the thing. She saw the ball so big.

507
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: She was in such high confidence you couldn't break her, right,

508
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: and so when you can't break her, she will break.

509
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: You at one point.

510
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: But it's such a high risk game that if you

511
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: do have a bad day, it's really hard to win

512
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: a major tournament. And I think this is the standard

513
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm putting to Garcia. I'm not putting a standard of

514
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: a random top twenty player. I think she should be

515
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: a major tournament winner and she isn't. And it frustrates

516
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: me because you were talking about frustrating players, because I

517
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: do think if she could just she doesn't even have

518
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: to be top ten in the return games one because

519
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: she's such a good server.

520
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: It's enough. If you're forty.

521
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: Five, I think you're annoyed because you were such a

522
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: great returner and your serve let you down sometimes that

523
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: you would have given your left arm or maybe a

524
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: left pinky, because you need your left arm to hit

525
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: you're two hand to have her serve.

526
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Speaker 1: Well with both of that's absolutely true, and with both

527
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: with Madison Keys and Curly and Garcia, they are five

528
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: hundred times more talented than I ever was, and so

529
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: I had to do everything right. And then it frustrates

530
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: me to see these players who don't do everything right

531
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: but are still better than I ever was because they

532
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: have more talent, and it's unfortunate. But in tennis it's

533
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: a meritocracy. You either have talent or you don't.

534
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Speaker 3: You can't.

535
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: I can't magically, I can't create a magic potion and

536
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: drink it and become the best tennis player in the world.

537
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: I did the best I could, and I'm proud of that.

538
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: But I never had there and some times when I

539
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: watched I was like if I had an ounce of

540
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: their talent. I would have been the number one player

541
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: in the world for ten years because I had to

542
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: do everything correct in order to keep up with the

543
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: best in the world, even for a little bit of

544
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: a short period of time. You know.

545
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, anyway, so let's get to our girl, Danimal Danielle,

546
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: we call her Danielle Collins. How great was those ten

547
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: days for daniel Collins?

548
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: Iconic?

549
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: She speaks to hell the last three years, four years,

550
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 2: the endometriosis, the rheumatoid arthritis, She's got lots of issues

551
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: going on order immune disease, like you know. She won

552
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 2: the Australian Open, and something that I thought was interesting

553
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 2: yesterday she thanked the crowd she lost. She literally the

554
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: longest speech of all time. But we'll get to that.

555
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: But she lost in the Austraian Open. And I was

556
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: there for that match courtside working and I think four

557
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: or five maybe seven people well it were screaming for her,

558
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: and she had this little band of guys as well,

559
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: so she probably had about fifteen people cheering for her,

560
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: and then the rest of the fifteen thousand people were

561
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: cheering for Ash Party And every time Ashbarty would win

562
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: a point, it was like the roof when it's the

563
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: loudest I've ever heard rod Labor Arena. Ever, then Daniel

564
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: Collins would doing a point it was crickets, like, I've

565
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: never heard a stadium so quiet. Because Australians are pretty

566
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: we're parochial, but we're also very fair. It's kind of

567
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: like the English.

568
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: It's like a great sports country.

569
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Speaker 1: They know how to respect sports people like I always

570
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 1: say it as an example, when you have an uncourt

571
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: interview with a player. In every other country, people just

572
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: leave because they want to see other matches. Australians always,

573
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: like every single person stays for the uncourt interview.

574
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: It's insane.

575
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we like our sports and we're fair, but that

576
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: Australian Open was different, so unfair. And you know, look,

577
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: I don't blame it's austray And Open and it was

578
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: ash party and it's the first time Australiana won for

579
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: thirty years or something so or more and so I

580
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: get it. But she must have felt so amazing playing

581
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: that final yesterday because the crowd were going bonkers for

582
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: her and it was so nice for here for her

583
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: to hear. She grew up three and a half hours

584
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: drive up the West Coast of Florida in Saint Petersburg, Florida.

585
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: Not wealthy, very poor, family busting her ass. Went to

586
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: college because she probably had no means really to go

587
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: on the tour, and it's very expensive to be a

588
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 2: tennis player. She goes, she plays college, she dominates in college,

589
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: she plays great, she changes colleges, like she's had a

590
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: bit of a interesting way to get into professional tennis.

591
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: Then she comes out in the Townis tour and does

592
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: pretty well, like plays well, and she's got that attitude

593
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 2: and hotspone that come on then the whole thing. And

594
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: then I feel like she had that the sickness and

595
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: the you know, issues with the surgery, with the endeme traces,

596
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: and then when I saw her play in the last

597
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: few years, she didn't have that same fire. And I

598
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: spoke to her about it, and I think she realized

599
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: that she didn't want to be seen like that on

600
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: the tennis squad anymore, or seeing like this, you know,

601
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: hot head and sort of loud and brash American and

602
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: all this stuff that can come with Daniel Collins of

603
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: five years ago. And I think she's kind of like

604
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: got really calm on the court, and I think it

605
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: hurt her in some ways, but I think it's taken

606
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: her a long time to get to the point and

607
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: that you could see it here where she still had

608
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: the fire, but she was super calm the whole time.

609
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: She was incredible.

610
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, until the last game when then we saw danimoll

611
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: come out where she was like scream in her box,

612
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: like talk to me, and then she's like shut up,

613
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: sit down. It was like they didn't know whether to

614
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,239
Speaker 2: stand up, whether to sit down, whether to cheer for her,

615
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: whether to not say anything. It was classic, and it's

616
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: it's something as a tennis player we both knew because

617
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: we were both pretty volatile on the court, or we'd

618
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: get fired up where you're like, it's got nothing to

619
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: do with your players box. It's just you're so stressed out.

620
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: You just need to let it out on somebody.

621
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Speaker 2: And you're the one. You're the people sitting there, so

622
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: you're gonna cop it. And it was classic Danielle Collins

623
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: last game and she hits the most amazing backhand cross

624
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: got to win the match, and she just played unbelievable, believable.

625
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: She lost the first set of the tournament and then

626
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: she didn't lose more than three games until the final

627
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: per set. It was like she was a less Yes,

628
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: she was a level above every single person against curling

629
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: Garcia too. Like even in the rallies, like in the

630
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: beginning we were saying, oh, you know whose forehand can

631
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: hold up better? Because both us struggling on the forehand.

632
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: Danielle was overpowering Garcia over the backhand side and that's

633
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: really hard to do.

634
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: Is probably one of the greatest back ins ever.

635
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. But she was just like the thing was

636
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: she When she has a bit of time, she's always incredible.

637
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: But even on like the quick hard shots that I

638
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: played with a lot of depth and flat when she

639
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: can be a little late because she has these big swings.

640
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: She was seeing the ball so early she was there,

641
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: she smacked it right back and then she had this

642
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: really nice little change of rhythm. Not that she plays

643
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: with the change of riddom, but she has this little

644
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: angle with the back hand, so sometimes she would just

645
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: go like whoops with the flick of the wrist and

646
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: cross gourd.

647
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: That I don't know so many big service don't use

648
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: it enough. She was using the body serve more than

649
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: any player I've ever seen over the last couple of years.

650
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: She played it unbelievably well against against Alexandrova. She served

651
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: that serve one hundred times like Alexandrover, couln't get out

652
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: of the way. And for anybody out there that has

653
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: a player serving to your body, take a half a

654
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: step back, just half a step back. It makes the world.

655
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: You say there to Caroline, Carol, she did the same

656
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: against her. And the thing with Danielle's surface and it's

657
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: interesting because she can also serve kick, but she has

658
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: a great slize and the way she serves the body serf,

659
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: she hits it as hard as she can, but with

660
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: a tat bit of slize, and so you think you're

661
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: in place, but then it moves just into your right tip.

662
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: And if you play tennis and imagine a ball coming

663
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: to your right hip, you cannot do anything. You can

664
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: move out of the way to hit a backhand, and

665
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: the forehand you're so close to your body you can't swing,

666
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: and you always give a short ball. And if you

667
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: give Danielle a neutral ball, the toast.

668
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's actually a serve. It was one of

669
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: my best serfs. I love Danielle and I serve pretty similarly.

670
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: I love the flatty like pancake flat serve. When I

671
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: was serving at my best, I could hit the slider

672
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: pretty well, and I love the flat one. But then

673
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: I used to hit this and I hit the body

674
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: serve a lot under pressure because I could smack it

675
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: as hard as I could and I knew.

676
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: And sorry to interrupt you, this is really important if

677
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: you listen to Renee, but also listen to me. If

678
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: you are going for a body serf, you have to

679
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: hit it because the one thing you want you want

680
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: what you want to do with a body serf, you

681
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: want to jam the other person. So if you just

682
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: slice it and they have the time to take a

683
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: step back and hit it, you're dead. So that's why

684
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: I take an example in Renee and in Danielle. You

685
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: have to hit smack the ball. When you hit Buddy.

686
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: Snacket, I love to hit that shot because I either

687
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: got a mistake off the return, which a lot of

688
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: these girls, in particular on the forehand, a lot of

689
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: the girls don't like to hit that one. Or I

690
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: got a short ball and for me, as somebody was

691
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: serving and volling and coming in, I got a ball

692
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: that was high. Often and also that it was very

693
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 2: hard for them to hit a winner, just a straight

694
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: up winner. Unless you don't hit your spot on the

695
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: server or you don't hit it hard, then you're a

696
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: bit dead. But it's a serve that I think she

697
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: used beautifully all week. And Alexandrova, who took out Eager

698
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: She Ontech, who we didn't even talk about, I mean, Ego,

699
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: that was just anyway. There was too many other people

700
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: to talk about. But certainly, you know, coming off of

701
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: winning Palm Springs and then losing early, she's going straight

702
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: onto the clay. She's going to be fine. But so

703
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: that's why we're sort of didn't really talk about her

704
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: very much. But I just want to give so much credit,

705
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: so much kudos to Danielle because to finish that match

706
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: off the way she did, and to hang in there

707
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: in that last game because it was she was up

708
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: thirty love and she kind of got a bit tired

709
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: on the forehand. She had a short poin and she

710
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: hit it straight to Rebuccina and they gone down a

711
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: break point and that's when all the drama started. But

712
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: just well done, Danielle, Like well done. She's going to

713
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: retire at the end. Of this year, and a lot

714
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: of people keep asking why why, you know, especially now

715
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: they're going to be like, why would you retire? Are

716
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: you playing great's? She has two very chronic diseases and

717
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: in some weeks you talked about it in Austin, she

718
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 2: like just fell apart. Yeah, because her body fell apart.

719
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah. I was calling Austin and we

720
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: were like, oh, Danielle Collins is winning this tournament. She

721
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: was so much better than everyone. She was playing well,

722
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: she had won a lot of matches already, she was

723
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,479
Speaker 1: playing well in the Middle East, and then she wakes

724
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: up on quarterfinals or even I think second round, and

725
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: she had a flare up and you could just see

726
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: she was in pain. She didn't sit down on changeovers.

727
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: Her back was hurting, then her hip was hurting, then

728
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: her knees were hurting, and she ended up retiring I

729
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: think in the in the quarterfinals, or maybe not really

730
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: playing at her best. And that's what happens. And the

731
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: thing is with that. I never had an autoimmune disease,

732
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: thank god, but I know a few of my friends

733
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: who have it, and it SAPs you mentally and energetically

734
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: because you wake up every morning and I had chronic

735
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: knee pain, which was obviously not the same but similar

736
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: in the sense that I woke up in the morning

737
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: the first thing I did was not like, Oh, I

738
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: have to pee. I would wake up and test my

739
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: knee and be like, oh okay, Oh today's bad today

740
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: I can't practice what I planned, or oh great today

741
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: I can practice. And that times a billion is what

742
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: an autoimmune disease as a tennis player or as an athlete,

743
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: as a pro athlete, where you're like, can I practice

744
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: this week? Can I play this week? Or will I

745
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: be in bed for the next five days? And that's

746
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: just horrible, And it's septs you mentally and energetically and emotionally,

747
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: just the ever questioning can I do it or can

748
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: I not do it? And so I think that's part.

749
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: I think that she never mentions it in that way,

750
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: but I do think that's part of what she wants.

751
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: To get pregnant. And there's all this sort of stuff that. Look,

752
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: the bottom line is I'm so happy for her that

753
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: she now can walk away from this game. Maybe at

754
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 2: the end of the day, maybe she'll change her mind,

755
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: She'll have found some magic potion that helps her. You

756
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 2: know on a weekly basis, I don't know. But if

757
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: she does retire at the end of this year and

758
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: puts her rackets down at thirty thirty one years of age,

759
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: gets you know, married, has kids, whatever, and is happy,

760
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: good for her that she was able to say, you

761
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 2: know what, I was a pretty fucking good tennis player,

762
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: and look how well I played, made a finals of

763
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: a Grand Slam, and I won a w taen one thousand,

764
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: and not just a random w teen one thousand, not

765
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: like a Gudalahara where like two people go sometimes and

766
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: play like no offense to Maria Sakari who won that

767
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: last year, but like everyone was no there was barely

768
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: anyone there. Everybody played Miami.

769
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: And beating Elena Rebuccina in the final exact a Grand

770
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: Slam champion, all.

771
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: The players she beat through the whole tournament was fantastic.

772
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: So Danielle, we're giving you a fist pump a well

773
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: done because.

774
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: And I have to say one more thing about her personality.

775
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: I always liked her because what I liked about her

776
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: is she was very authentic and very true to herself.

777
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: And this is what I want to circle back to.

778
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: When Daniell came on tour, she was not well liked,

779
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: neither by players nor by fans, and now she has

780
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: icon status. And that's just my appeal to people and

781
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: to tennis players who come on tour, but generally really

782
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: as people that sometimes the others have to come around

783
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: to you if you are true to yourself, That's what

784
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: I mean. Like in the beginning, people were like taken

785
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: aback because she was loud and yelled in your face

786
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: and wanted to win and was feisty. Now everyone likes

787
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: her and all the fans there is so much outpouring

788
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: love for her because she always remained true to herself

789
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: and people will come around when they see that's who

790
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: you are, and you go girl, and.

791
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: You know, look, she has definitely calmed down a lot

792
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: on the court, there's no doubt about it. And I

793
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: think she's matured in that way. But she also came

794
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: out of playing college and you look at Peyton Sterns,

795
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: who's going to take over from Daniel as far as

796
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: the same sort of personality, and it's they've come out

797
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: of college and constantly, if you've ever gone to watch

798
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 2: a college match, they're constantly yelling and screaming at one another,

799
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: Go five, go four, like y, you know whatever, Go Gators, go,

800
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: you know, game cocks, go.

801
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: Just go watch a college match. Like the first time

802
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: I saw that, I was dying of laughter because after

803
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: every point it was like fifteen all and the teammates

804
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: would jump off the bench and run on the court,

805
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, what is happening here? This is

806
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: the atmosphere they come from, And so of course you're

807
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: going to bring that to the tour and be surprised

808
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: that the others are not doing that.

809
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you're a really good player in college.

810
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 2: So you're like, well, this is what wins me matches.

811
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: And I think she's learned through the last few years

812
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 2: that oh I don't need to necessarily be like that,

813
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 2: but what she needed to be was karma, and that's

814
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: what has.

815
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: Won the combination right now in Miami was the perfect

816
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: combination of you heard the legendary commands, like I venture

817
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: to argue that there was one against Garcia that was

818
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: maybe the all time number one where she like did

819
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: an half ivanovitch lifting the knee up and then a

820
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: half like pulling back the phils and yelling commands. So

821
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: there was like a lot of things mixed milanched into one.

822
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: It was so beautiful. I loved it. But with the

823
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: calmness in between, yeah, right, and if and she found

824
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: the perfect mixture for herself where she has the feistiness

825
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: but also a certain kind of zen within her.

826
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: And one thing to remember if you are raising a

827
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: tennis player, or you listen to this podcast and you

828
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: want to aspire to be a professional, if you're a

829
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: feisty person like Danielle Collins, like I was, like you were,

830
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: you know, on the court, remember to use those moments

831
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: to change the atmosphere of a match, right, Because when

832
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 2: Danielle Collins maybe you know, it's kind of calm, calm,

833
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: come and then goes come on that one time. As

834
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: an opponent, you're like, oh shit, right, So use those

835
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: moments of feistiness at the right time because it can

836
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: influence a match big time. Right. So just and never

837
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: lose sight of who you truly are. You don't want

838
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: to lose who you truly are when you're playing a

839
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: tennis match, but you want to control the controllables. And

840
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: also if getting upset is hurting you, then that's a

841
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: bad thing. But don't lose the feistinness when it matters,

842
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 2: and that's a big lesson that I think Danielle's leaned

843
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: through the year. So well done to Danielle Collins. I'm

844
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: super super happy for her. All Right, let's flick over

845
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: to the guys. I mean, come on, yan Nick Sinner.

846
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: He just destroyed Gregor Demetrov today. But before we get

847
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: to that, ol Choraz losing to Gregord Dimitrov. How happy

848
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: are we for Gregord Demetrov? Before we get to Gregole,

849
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Andy Murray a little bit though, because

850
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: you know, unbelievable a couple of matches that he played,

851
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 2: that three hour twenty match and then he ended up

852
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: losing to Marshak mahuch. This guy is unbelievable. Then his

853
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: ankle's fucked up. Now he's hoping obviously to try and

854
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: get back from Wimbledon, because I think that's going to

855
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: be the last time we see him on the tour.

856
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: He's sort of really saying now that this is it,

857
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: but how many how much do you just love this guy?

858
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: And when he won that match prior to losing the

859
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: one he did, I said, this is why he still plays.

860
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: He goes out and he's throwing his fist in the

861
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: air and he's jumping in the air and the crowd's

862
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: going crazy for him. I just you can't not admire

863
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: the guy. And hopefully he's back with this ankle injury

864
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: now for Wimbledon.

865
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: I think he will be. I mean, it was super unfortunate.

866
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: He twisted or rolled his ankle and two ligaments are torn.

867
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: So he will be out for a few weeks. But

868
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: hopefully it's not a ligament injury that requires surgery, because

869
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: that can take you out three months. If it's not

870
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: that bad, he can get away without a surgery and

871
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: he might be even back in five six weeks. Actually

872
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: I had it once where a tour where a tour

873
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: two and I was back after five six weeks. When

874
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: I did all three, I had to have surgery and

875
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: it was like a whole ordeal.

876
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: So let's hope it's not that.

877
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: But what I will say from a fan perspective, I

878
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: was in Miami when Andy Murray played. All the courts

879
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: were packed and the atmosphere always rang all over to

880
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: the stadium court where we were like, oh what is it? Oh, yeah,

881
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: Andy Murray is playing. Fans know what they get when

882
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: they buy an Andy Murray ticket. They get a great

883
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: tragedy and somebody will die at the end of a match,

884
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: and most of the times it's Andy Murray unfortunately, or

885
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: his fans or one of his fans, and it's unfortunate,

886
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: but it's true. And so that's why it's like the

887
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: discussion of first of all, his ranking is good enough

888
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: to not need Wildcats anymore, but the discussion of not

889
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: giving Andy Murray Wildcats like that is the one ticket

890
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: I would buy as a fan. I will get a

891
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: guaranteed four hour match no matter what happens, and somebody

892
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: will like cry, count.

893
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: Me in, count me in, count take my money for

894
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: Andy Murray. Every single time. We love you man, get

895
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 2: back hopefully healthy. As we said, we want to see

896
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: the best Andie Murray we can see at Wimbledon, because

897
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: I have a feeling that might be the Swan song

898
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: that he sales out onto and it would be fantastic

899
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: to see him do well there, and so we're just

900
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: we're thinking of you, Andy and hopefully you're back as

901
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: strong as ever for those tournaments. Actually something that we

902
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: did forget and I know we're flipping that to the

903
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 2: chicky babes, but Cocoa Golf. Again, like we've sort of

904
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: talked about this a little bit, but you know, since

905
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: since the US Open. Look, she played a great match

906
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: of the ustral And Open and that was definitely the

907
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: match sort of other than the rebekin a blink over

908
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: the drama.

909
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: There was the drama.

910
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: Quality wise, there was quality was great. The quality between

911
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: golf and Zabalenka was the best match of the women's tournament.

912
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: You want to say right at the Australian Open.

913
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's at certain points in that match. But

914
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: she has been struggling and you know, we've talked about

915
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: peer Reba, his influence over her on the forehand in particular,

916
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: he was working really hard. We've talked about it before.

917
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: How Brad you know, doesn't really want to change too

918
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: much about that. But the thing that I'm really yes,

919
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: the forehand, the forehand, we can talk about the foehound

920
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: till we're you know, old and buried, but it's the

921
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: second serve for me that she's struggling with. So there

922
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: is there are certainly two things that are glaringly giving

923
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: her problems that other players in the top ten in

924
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: the world do not have those glaring except Gussie's return

925
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: of sef But Gusia, you know, has this great serving

926
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 2: motion and wins most of her service games. Was Coco,

927
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: I just don't know what's going to happen anymore. She's

928
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: gonna double She's gonna double fault ten times match, and

929
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: that's giving away two or three games on your serve.

930
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: If you're not returning unbelievable, you're gonna lose those matches

931
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: against the types of players. So Coco has got to

932
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: figure out something with the second serve. The motion is

933
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: a disaster.

934
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't this bad. It wasn't as bad as it

935
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: was in Indian Wiles. But still she hit only three

936
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: double faults against Carol and Garciana three three set match.

937
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: The only thing that was a little bit concerning to

938
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: me was she the first two sets were actually amazing

939
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: against Caroln Garcia. Carolyn was playing incredible in the first set.

940
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: She was just so aggressive, taking the balls early, rushing

941
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: Coco and Coco without and we have we have the

942
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: microphones in the boxes so we can hear what they

943
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: are saying, and Bratt was not saying much. And Coco

944
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: on her own figured out that she has to play differently.

945
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: She didn't have any depth, especially on her forehand. And

946
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 1: in the second set she started we had the stats,

947
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: she started playing ten inches higher. I don't know in inches,

948
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: but the centimeters. It was like ten centimeters higher. Then

949
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: in the first set, and what does hight do? Height

950
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: gives you depth, and all of a sudden she won

951
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: six to one or six to two the second set

952
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: really easily. And then what was And this is what

953
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 1: I admired about Coco's game always. She reads tennis incredibly,

954
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: She's so smart, she has such high tennis like you,

955
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: and she's able to adjust. And that's what being a

956
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: tennis player is. You constantly adapt. You adapt to new conditions.

957
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Every week, you adapt to new playing styles. Then you

958
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: beat somebody, then you play them the next week they

959
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: have changed their game. You have to adapt again. So

960
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: what you are as a tennis player is basically somebody

961
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: who consistently has to adapt and change and grow and

962
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: do something differently. And Coco is the master of it.

963
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: She's so good at it. And of course she's a

964
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: word we talked about and all we talked about her

965
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: being an incredible competitor, in my opinion, one of the

966
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: best on the tour. Maybe the best with Caroline Bosniaki.

967
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: But in the third set against Garcia, she went back

968
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: to playing flat and that was so strange to me,

969
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: especially on the forehand side, because that's the one thing

970
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: we talked about it many times. When she has the

971
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: height on the forehand, it's really uncomfortable to play her.

972
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: I've played her multiple times because on the one side

973
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: she hits the ball and on the other it jumps

974
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: over your shoulder and you're like, ah, what do I do?

975
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: And that was really strange to me because normally she's

976
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: so good in reading the game, and there she kind

977
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: of lost clarity in that third set. That was the

978
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: only observation I had. I have no reasoning or I'm

979
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: not I don't have any consequences out of it, but

980
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: that was interesting to me to witness because we have

981
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: the stats and we saw that she went back to

982
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: the first set again in terms of height over the net.

983
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, so well, she'll be aware of that next time.

984
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: But anyway, I wanted to throw that in there because

985
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: you know, these are the big names in the women's

986
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: game that didn't have the tournaments, So do.

987
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: You want to talk about the ego as well? Or no?

988
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it is what it is. She lost

989
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: to a big hitter and she kind of freaked out a.

990
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Little, and it is we talked I don't know if

991
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: we talked about this, but it's talked about all the time.

992
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: It is so hard to win a Sunshine double, and

993
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: because basically are playing two Grand Slam tournaments in a

994
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: row more or less. A little bit it's a little shorter,

995
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: but it's still a lot of tennis. And you hit

996
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: a wall and sometimes you are lucky that you scrape by,

997
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: and then for semis and finals you are there again.

998
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: But oftentimes you hit a quarter.

999
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: Yes, you hit a wall in quarters there like fourth

1000
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: or last sixteen quarters, you hit a wall. And if

1001
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: you're not lucky with the drawn, you play somebody that's

1002
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: on fire, like Ega played with Alexandrova or Coco played

1003
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: with Garcia, you will be out.

1004
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: And that's the problem.

1005
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: If you overcome these somehow luckily, then of course for

1006
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: semis and finals you'll be there, and you're the.

1007
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 2: Better player in most times. Ega is the better player

1008
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: in those semis and finals. Right, But speaking of a

1009
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: double Sunshine double, Alcaraz who looked unbelievable, but the courts

1010
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: suit Alcaraz and eager in Palm Springs so much because

1011
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: of the grittiness of the court. Then you go to Miami.

1012
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: It's faster, the balls are different, it's humid, it's it's

1013
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: just very different commission conditions. And like Lindsay Davenport just

1014
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: won Indian well so many times because she's from California,

1015
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: she used those conditions, could never do well in Miami.

1016
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: Same thing. So but Alcaraz, I mean, Greg God, Demetrov,

1017
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: how happy are we for that guy? I mean, he

1018
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: played unbelievable. He played so good against Alcarez. It was

1019
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: like just.

1020
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: Against against against That was even crazier to me because

1021
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: of the he had lost the last seven matches against Veref,

1022
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: So that was even crazier to me than the Alkoraz thing.

1023
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of stuff there with them.

1024
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: Well, and and di Mitev said it against al Karaz,

1025
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: he kind of had no choice. It was like, I'm

1026
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: playing right now at this moment, you India, Well, so

1027
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: I played the most inforum player here. I have to

1028
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: do something special and it forced him but to do

1029
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: it again.

1030
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: A day later he lost the second set against Verev.

1031
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: Yes, and he choked in that second set, well, he

1032
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: had five to four, he was six four five four

1033
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: love thirty and he missed two four hands in the

1034
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: bottom of a net.

1035
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's a choke.

1036
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: And you can say that now because he managed to

1037
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: win the third set and he didn't choke even a

1038
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: little bit.

1039
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 3: But he choked in that second set.

1040
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: He choked those points and he played a very tectically

1041
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 2: tactically terrible yeh tiebreak. And I don't know what happened,

1042
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 2: but all of a sudden he started playing every ball

1043
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: to the back end of Zev and he has the

1044
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 2: ability with a slice back end. He has the ability

1045
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: to hit the slice down the line. So as somebody

1046
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: who hit a slice a lot when I played, if

1047
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: you hit hard to my slice, I could slice it

1048
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: to my one handed backhand. It's very hard to run

1049
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: over there and hit that one hand back and against

1050
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: a two hander when they were like dominating you on

1051
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: that side. But the ability to be able to hit

1052
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: a slice back in like an ash party and just

1053
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 2: go book and hit slice down the line, then you're like,

1054
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: where did they go? They run over? Zverev's like six

1055
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: foot six to run over on his weaker side, He's

1056
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: always going to hit that back cross court to Grigor's

1057
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: best shot. It's like, why isn't he doing that? All

1058
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: of a sudden, He's like China slice back cross court,

1059
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: cross court again. I'm like, oh my god, you're going

1060
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: to his best shot. And then Zverev just controlled every

1061
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 2: single point in the backhand, and then in the third

1062
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: set he just played smarter again, played played the forehand.

1063
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: Oh my god. The break point where the ball hit

1064
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: the tape when he came into the net and he

1065
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: fell down and he made that on that is one

1066
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 2: of the shots of the year. To break it would

1067
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 2: be one thing if it was like fifteen or whatever,

1068
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: because listen, I've had balls come off the net and

1069
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: you know, I mean I made money from hitting reflexes

1070
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 2: at the net. So for me, it wasn't like, oh

1071
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: my god, but trust me, I was on the ground

1072
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: on that one because the import of that point when

1073
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: it hit the tape and he fell on the ground

1074
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: to make the shot, it was that was one of

1075
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: the shots.

1076
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean there were so many things adjacent

1077
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: to it that you don't see when you just see

1078
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: the shot. It was the first time in two hundred

1079
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: and sixty weeks that he was back in the top ten.

1080
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: It was the first time in eight years or whatever

1081
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 1: that he beat two top five player back to back.

1082
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: It was the first time in five thousand years that

1083
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: he made a Master's one thousand finals, and so there

1084
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: were so many things on the line and that moment,

1085
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: so it's not just the ball hits the tape goes

1086
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: up and you're reacting to it. It's like, if I

1087
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: make this, I'm winning the smash and all this like

1088
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,959
Speaker 1: red tail comes with it of it out.

1089
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so incredible, well.

1090
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: Like so calm, so great. I'm so happy for this year.

1091
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: He was serving so well because his second serve is

1092
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: kind of shite, and he was serving really well, and

1093
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: he had a few, very very few where you could

1094
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: tell the old second serve was coming out where he

1095
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: just puts it in. It was like sixty eight miles

1096
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: an hour, and I was like, I can run faster

1097
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: than that. But but generally speaking, ninety five percent of

1098
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: the tournament, Grigo was serving so well. And not only

1099
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't have he has a great serve, but he's

1100
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: not the fastest serve on tour, but his spots that's

1101
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: the almost like Roger Federer's.

1102
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: And that's the difference. And that's the difference. We've talked

1103
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: about it before we talked about al Choraz. Jim Coreers

1104
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: said that, you know, Alcaraz's biggest like downfall is the

1105
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: fact that he doesn't spot serve as well as the

1106
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: top guys, like you know obviously how Roger served, how

1107
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: Sinner is serving now, how you know all the big

1108
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: service is Vera. When he hits his first servey in,

1109
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: it's like it's spot serving, it's so good, whereas Alcaraz

1110
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: is about a foot from the sideline, whereas these guys

1111
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: are serving one inch.

1112
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: From the side.

1113
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,959
Speaker 2: And Gregor that's where Greg got. But also I feel

1114
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: like Grigor's changed his forehand a little bit. And I

1115
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 2: give Jamie Delgado, his coach, a lot of credit because

1116
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: they've been together now for a couple of years and

1117
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: Jamie sort of oscillated between Andy Mut and Grigor and

1118
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: then so Jamie's with him all the time now, and

1119
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: I just give him a lot of credit. And he

1120
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 2: looks to me like he's changed something a little bit

1121
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: on his forehand, and as good as his forehand before was.

1122
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 2: I feel like there's something with the take back that

1123
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: looks a little bit different. And I think he's just

1124
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: playing with so much confidence now and I love it.

1125
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 2: And he comes into the net as much as anybody,

1126
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: and he's so good and he's fast, and he just

1127
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: understands how to move forward and I am here for

1128
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 2: it and.

1129
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: I love him. The biggest difference that it is to

1130
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: him when he's playing well and not well. And I've

1131
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: always said it when people come up to me like,

1132
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, do you know Grigor Dimitrov, He's like

1133
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: baby Federer? And I was like, yeah, with the difference

1134
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: that Roger plays on the line and Grigor plays twenty

1135
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: feet behind the line. He looks like he plays like Federer,

1136
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: but it's like Federer.

1137
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: And also the serve, Yes, but he used to go

1138
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 2: in because I went, it's funny that you said that,

1139
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: but I went one time at the Austrain Open. I

1140
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: sat side on the baseline right so right where the

1141
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: tournament director sits, there where Craig Tyler sits. I sat

1142
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 2: there one time to watch him play, and I'm like,

1143
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 2: and I think he played Roger. So I was like,

1144
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 2: what is the difference between these guys serfs? Because they

1145
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 2: do similar action, like the whole thing, and I was like, oh,

1146
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 2: it's so obvious. Roger would land first and second serve

1147
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,919
Speaker 2: about I would say, a good two to three feet

1148
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: inside the baseline. So when he's hitting his serf, heat

1149
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: is going for it, and he is, you know, the

1150
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: confidence that he has to get inside the baseline and

1151
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: stay there and then maybe get back. You could see it.

1152
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: And then as Grigor was serving, particularly the second serve,

1153
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 2: even the first serve, he would go up and hit

1154
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: the serve and as he came down he was landing

1155
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 2: on the baseline, on the baseline or maybe an inch

1156
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: inside the baseline. I'm like you, that is terrible. You

1157
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: have got to be inside the baseline hitting your serfs.

1158
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: Look at all the great serfs. Look where Arena would

1159
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: finish inside the baseline. He was going It was almost

1160
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: like he was going up hitting and coming down and

1161
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 2: going backwards.

1162
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: Yes, but I know why.

1163
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: You know why, because he was afraid to take the

1164
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: balls on the rise. He needs time, and that's why

1165
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: he would revert back and be trying. Yes, and because

1166
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: he's so fast he could get away with it. Now

1167
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: he's not Roger playing on the line, but he's playing

1168
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 1: many more shots closer to the line, and he tries

1169
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: to take them on the rise, and it looks like

1170
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: they've been working on it. He's quick up to the

1171
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: short balls. That's why it's also easier for him to

1172
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: come to the net because yes, so he has really

1173
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: I think the main difference in Grigo's game from when

1174
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: he's not playing well to now when he's playing really

1175
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: well is he's much closer to the baseline. He takes

1176
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 1: many balls on the rise, and so.

1177
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: And he comes in and you know what it is,

1178
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 2: He's finally using his speed in the right way, which

1179
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 2: is forward, not parallel. And so I decide twenty feet

1180
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: behind the baseline and just going, look, I'm really fast.

1181
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run this down because he's not that guy. Look,

1182
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: it's one thing for Rafa or Medvedev to be twenty

1183
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 2: feet behind the baseline because they're counter punching.

1184
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: And then they step up on the bank and they

1185
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: don't have a one handed back and they don't have one.

1186
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you had a one handed back in the

1187
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: fertile back you stage. Yeah, it is for your backhand,

1188
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: yeah for sure. Yeah, show your slice. If you try

1189
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: to hit a slice and you can't get him twenty

1190
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: feet behind the back. You have to float it and

1191
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: if it floats, the guys will kill it. But now

1192
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: he's taking it on the rise. He's taking the speed

1193
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: of the opponent, and he's like Stefie Grafted or Roger

1194
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: Best example, he's like fucking slicing it. He's not floating it,

1195
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: he's slicing it. And now even the guys who have

1196
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: good hands, they're like, oh, I have to go really

1197
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: underneath it, and you would see them four hands slice

1198
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: it back because it's so sharp. The way he hits it.

1199
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: It's just jeff it, yeah it. But he's really improved,

1200
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: like tremendously. It's not like one two aspects. They are

1201
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: like four aspects in his game, from serf to positioning

1202
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: to slicing to fourhand and all of that helps him

1203
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: organically come to the net more often where he was

1204
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: always good. And the combination of that is why he's

1205
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: deservedly in the top ten again and if he can

1206
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: continue this way, will be a contender at the biggest

1207
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: tournaments every single time. You do not want to have

1208
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: him in your drop absolutely.

1209
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 2: I think the key is because he's being a little

1210
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: bit more aggressive with his where he's standing on the

1211
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: baseline and how he's playing is that it's allowing him

1212
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: when he tries to get into the net and get

1213
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: these guys who are out of position, He's able to

1214
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: take three steps, maybe four, and be in a really

1215
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: good position at the net, whereas before he would have

1216
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: to take six steps because he was so far behind

1217
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: the court and try and hustle his way into the net,

1218
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: and these guys would pass him. I was a fuck,

1219
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: can't I can't keep coming in? Yeah you can, but

1220
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: you've got to start here, not way back there. So

1221
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: I think that's the difference, just his position in the court,

1222
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: he's hitting his back end. I think he's absolutely physically

1223
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: stronger than he was going through that long COVID situation,

1224
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: which we talked about already on the pod. So I

1225
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: think everything is falling into place perfectly for him, and

1226
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: I would love to see him make a Grand Slam final.

1227
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: I would love to see him have that opportunity again.

1228
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: Do I think he can beat the Sinners and Alcorazm's

1229
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: and Grand Flam Final over best of five? I don't know.

1230
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 2: I don't want to ever say no against anyone, because

1231
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle could happen. But I just love

1232
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: to see him make another Master's one tho thousand final

1233
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: because he deserved it so much this tournament. But my god,

1234
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: best player in the world right now. I know alcaaz

1235
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: one in Indian Wells, but I think there was something

1236
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: going on with Sinner a little bit in the final.

1237
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 2: And I also think that court is perfect for him.

1238
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: For alcoraz in Indian Wells, I think this court is

1239
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 2: more indicative of the US Open. I think Sinner is

1240
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: the absolute favorite to win the US Open and Wimbledon,

1241
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: and possibly at Wimbledon. I actually think the US Open

1242
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: maybe even faster than Wimbledon believed because the grass is

1243
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: so slow now and hard underneath, so it bounces high.

1244
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: But my god, Yanick Sinner, I mean he smoked Medvedev.

1245
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: I know Medvedev was tired because guess what, everybody, Yes,

1246
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: I love that you keep tweeting as this shitty draw

1247
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: once again. He is second on like almost every match.

1248
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: I think when he plays in the day now, he

1249
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: must be like, what's that up there? Oh, that's the sun,

1250
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: because the guy plays late every time, which doesn't help

1251
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: him when it comes down to playing the Yanick Sinners

1252
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: of the world or the alcaraz Is in the seventies

1253
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: and finals, but he gets a shitty schedule every time.

1254
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: But he got smoked smoked, I mean by Sinner and

1255
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: then Sinner smokes Grigot in the final. The guy is

1256
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: playing unbelievable and you cannot have a nicer guy winning matches.

1257
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 2: We're so lucky in tennis with these players we are.

1258
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: We are so I Yanick Sinner first of all, Swaggy Sinner,

1259
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 1: He's gotten a little swag to him.

1260
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 3: Good for him. Like I supported.

1261
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: Yannick Centronet Center, I fully.

1262
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: Support Swaggy Cinner. And the reason for that is a

1263
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: boy has become a man, and a man is now

1264
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: dominating the tennis world and the man's name is Swaggy

1265
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: Sinner and I'm here for it. So that's one number one.

1266
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: The other thing I will say is coaching matters.

1267
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: Darren K. Hill is a great coach.

1268
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: The reason why I say this I called the match

1269
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: against Greek Spor, who was playing absurd tennis. Yanick was

1270
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: not doing many things wrong. It was just that one

1271
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: day and gree Greek Sport can play. He has big serve,

1272
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: he can come to the net, he has a huge forehand.

1273
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: He was not missing his backhand. He has like he

1274
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: doesn't care. You can tell he's already put Novak one

1275
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: time to the brink of a loss at the Paris

1276
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: one thousand Masters indoors, so he knows how to play

1277
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: the big players. And he came out there and his

1278
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: backhand is weaker, and Yanick was attacking the back end,

1279
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: but it was not breaking down. He was just holding

1280
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: fast a set and a half and the rain came.

1281
01:01:59,040 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 3: He walked off.

1282
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: Until then Greek Sport had won eighty six percent of

1283
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: first and second serfs. He was serving out of the

1284
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: out of his ass, to be honest, and they come

1285
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: back and all of the sudden it drops to fifty percent.

1286
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, hmm, I wonder why. I see Darren k

1287
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: Hill the next day and I'm like, Darren, did you

1288
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: tell Janick to cover the white surf and then? And

1289
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: Darren was like yes, but he got aced twice down

1290
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: the middle. I was like, huh, that's okay because we

1291
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: have the stats and I showed him.

1292
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 3: And he was like, oh my god. Yes.

1293
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: And so even though Jannick got aged twice down the

1294
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: tee because he was covering the sly serf. More it

1295
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 1: changed the complete out come of the match and him

1296
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: having the trust in Darren k Hill number one be

1297
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: being able to execute it, because that's a whole different story.

1298
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: You can I can cover whatever I want. If Greek

1299
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: Spore hits a serve at me, I can stand there.

1300
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: I won't return it, you know. So it matters to

1301
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: be able to execute number two and number three. He

1302
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: remained calm. He recognized and this is what I always

1303
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: tell people when you are losing, there is one single assessment.

1304
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: You have to make one single assessment. Am I doing

1305
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: something wrong? If the answer is no, wait for it,

1306
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: wait it out? Or is the other one And that's

1307
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: the second assessment. Is the other one playing really really well?

1308
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: And I have to accept it and continue to do

1309
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: my thing and hope that it ends. And that's what

1310
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,959
Speaker 1: Yanick did. He waited it out and it broke down

1311
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: and Yanick won six to one in the third and

1312
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: after that I was like, this guy's winning the tournament

1313
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: Swedish center, or.

1314
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: Am I standing too close to the baseline on return?

1315
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 2: If my name is Caroline Gusia, So you're right, and

1316
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 2: you said it in the commentary. Actually when he was

1317
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: playing Greek School because I was watching that much, and

1318
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 2: you said sometimes you just have to wait it out

1319
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: when you're playing again. It's one thing if you're playing

1320
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: against Novak, yes, of course, and he's killing you because

1321
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: he's hitting the service spots. You can't get a free

1322
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 2: point on return because he's never missing one, and blah

1323
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: blah blah.

1324
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,959
Speaker 1: Well that's the first assessment. Am I doing something wrong?

1325
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: As like am I tactically maybe? Like, first of all,

1326
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: am I just playing bad? And you can't do anything

1327
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: except for try better? But am I doing tactically something wrong?

1328
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: And if the answer is no, this is the match

1329
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: panere you prepared. I know this is his weakness and

1330
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: it's just not weakening today, then you have to continue

1331
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: and wait it out.

1332
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: And you'll hear coaches often say I've said this many times.

1333
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure you said it many times to yourself in

1334
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: your own head. It's just like you yell to your player, just.

1335
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 3: She can't keep it up.

1336
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: That's like so many times my coach told me, like

1337
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: she can't keep it playing out of her ass ye.

1338
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: Like if someone said, you know, if you know that

1339
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: this person hits her forehand, cross caught you know eighty

1340
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 2: five percent of the time every single match, and then

1341
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: all of a sudden she's hitting seventy percent down the

1342
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: line off the forehand and she's making every one of them,

1343
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 2: and you're like, what the fuck. She's like, don't worry

1344
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 2: under pressure, and that's the key. Under pressure, they will

1345
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: always do what they always do, and that's the bottom line.

1346
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: And if they don't, that's what you say.

1347
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 1: Two go.

1348
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: And sometimes as a coach, Darren will understand this, when

1349
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: he got Ace twice down the tee, you go, too good,

1350
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: that's too good. You made him or her hit the shot.

1351
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 2: They don't want to hit under pressure, and if they

1352
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: can do that, that's when you can actually as a player,

1353
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 2: believe it or not, because it sucks to lose every time,

1354
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: but when you know that someone has beaten you with

1355
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 2: their weakness because it was too good, that's some time

1356
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: you can walk away and go the fuck, that was

1357
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: just too good.

1358
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: And that happens once a year maximum, maybe twice a

1359
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: year dead and this is what happened to Ega against Alexandrova.

1360
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: That's what happened to her. Unfortunately it happened twice. This

1361
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: Moscova and Australian open, but that a lower ranked player

1362
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: or for amateurs at home, somebody that you know that

1363
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: you're better than normally. You know that happens once or

1364
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 1: twice a year where you're like, accept too, just you

1365
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: just did it. I gave you everything I could and

1366
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: normally it breaks down. Today it didn't. And if Yannick

1367
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: had lost this match, everyone would have been like, oh

1368
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: my god, what's happening to Janick Cinner? But every single

1369
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: person watch the match would have been like Greek sports man.

1370
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 3: For him.

1371
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I said, the.

1372
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: Worst is he would probably have lost the next round

1373
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: two and three and people and Probablemic would have come.

1374
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it was kind of like blink over at

1375
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: this straight and open, you know, played the match of

1376
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: her life and then lost the next day. But listen,

1377
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: here's the bottom line. Yanick Sinner without question is the

1378
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 2: best player in the world right now on the men's side.

1379
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 3: There he did a little look a little tired today.

1380
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: For sure, it's normal. He's you know, the amount of

1381
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: great plays he beat in a row, and he played

1382
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 2: late and yeah, so there's no question. But Yanick Sinner

1383
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 2: without question is the best player in the world currently

1384
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 2: on the men's Tour. I know Alcarez one last week,

1385
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 2: but this guy has started the year winning the Australian Open,

1386
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: winning you know in Europe indoors immediately afterwards, and one

1387
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 2: of the things that I know I talked to Darren

1388
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: about after he won the Strain Open was he was

1389
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 2: immediately saying, yep, he's playing great, it's awesome. We just

1390
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 2: have to keep him focused on the next and wanting

1391
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 2: to keep winning. And congratulations to not only Darren, but

1392
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: who's his other coach? I always forget his name, the Italian, Yes, exactly,

1393
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: see see.

1394
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: They twenty two, I mean twenty two and one boyfriend

1395
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: is twenty two and one SWEGI Center this year.

1396
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 3: That tells you all.

1397
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 2: And he lost arguably to a guy that's could possibly

1398
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 2: win ten Indian Miles titles with al Karaz and so well.

1399
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: And we said, we commentated on this before. The difference

1400
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: right now before between Carlos and Sinners when they play

1401
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: each other, it's a lot of form of the day

1402
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: plus conditions and current calls. Though Carlos still has matches

1403
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: where he doesn't play his best and Yannick doesn't have those.

1404
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 2: He plays great all the time.

1405
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: Yes, he plays great all the time, and I repeat

1406
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: myself against Greeks, but he also played He maybe didn't

1407
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: play great, but he played good.

1408
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: He didn't play bad. There was no there is no

1409
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 2: exactly he's bad.

1410
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: And Carlos still has these bad matches.

1411
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: And I think, and I want to go back to

1412
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 2: the women just for one second before we end this,

1413
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 2: someone like a Rebackina who's coming off injury, injuries and

1414
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: sicknesses and all this sort of stuff. And she didn't

1415
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 2: play great, right, She was missing her backhand quite a bit,

1416
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 2: which doesn't happen. She wasn't acing all over the place.

1417
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 2: You know she's going to be I think she's the

1418
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 2: absolute favorite to win Wimbledon. In my opinion. I think

1419
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: she's the player to beat there this year. So if

1420
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 2: you're going to put on an early bet from Wimbledon,

1421
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: I would put it on rebarking because I think she's

1422
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: going to be really, really tough to beat there. And

1423
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: I just think the women's game is so healthy right now,

1424
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 2: and the men's is being dominated essentially by two guys

1425
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 2: in al Karaz and Sinner and Novak will be back,

1426
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 2: we know that for sure.

1427
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 3: And with the split with Goran and split with Goran.

1428
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: I mean, Novak's had splits now with his management company

1429
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: as Matt two managers that the two Italian husband and

1430
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: wife that were his agents forever, got rid of them

1431
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: at the start of the year, had a new team

1432
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:57,719
Speaker 2: in place. Now Goran's gone. There's definitely something tumultuous happening

1433
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: in Novak Djokovic's life. I don't know what's going going on.

1434
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,799
Speaker 2: And the cryptic tweet that he put out about Goran,

1435
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: you know this and that, and then he would be

1436
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 2: like he might not think about that way in a bracket,

1437
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: like in a parenthesis, sort of like a sly little

1438
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:17,639
Speaker 2: passive aggressive comment about Goran, like I was. I read

1439
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: that like you wanted this, But clearly Goran was not happy,

1440
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: because I could just just from the tweet. I don't know.

1441
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to anybody. I'm you know, I could

1442
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: be talking completely out of my ass, But there's certainly

1443
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:33,480
Speaker 2: something that's going on in that camp that's very tumultuous,

1444
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: and I don't know what it is. You might know

1445
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: more than me because you're so being connections. But there's

1446
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 2: something that's certainly not going right in Novak Djokovic's world

1447
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:46,799
Speaker 2: right now, and so look, he's always bounced back from stuff,

1448
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 2: but he's also not getting any younger, so it's getting tougher.

1449
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 2: And these guys are getting better Yannick Sinner al KaAZ,

1450
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: they're not going away, so he's gonna have to come

1451
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 2: back and be at his best. Obviously, Rafa is going

1452
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: to hopefully come back and play some decent tennis on

1453
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,839
Speaker 2: the clay before he goes off into you know, Mayoca

1454
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: Land and Sales. The season doesn't play tennis anymore, So

1455
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: we've got a lot to look forward to with this

1456
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 2: clay court season coming up here.

1457
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am fucking here for it.

1458
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: Me too, Me too.

1459
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: The only thing I will say what drives me insane,

1460
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: especially when I do watch the Rebeckna versus Soccery matches,

1461
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: that these our top five women are almost never playing

1462
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: each other.

1463
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they keep losing.

1464
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: Yes, so every time like Soccery right now, in this

1465
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: during the Sunshine Double, she was a top five player.

1466
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: She was top five before, She was number three ranked

1467
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: player in the world before. Like when she plays this way,

1468
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: she's a top five player. She was a top five player. Rebecca,

1469
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: now we all know, is a top five player. They

1470
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: play each other and it's incredible level, Coco GoF and

1471
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: Sablenka at the Australia.

1472
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 2: That's what you want.

1473
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 3: It's incredible.

1474
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: They never play each other. How is this possible? It

1475
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: never We've had ten tournaments this year and we had

1476
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: two matches with top five women played each other. How

1477
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: is this possible? As you said in Germany, this outburst

1478
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: is me as a tennis fan. This is me as

1479
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: a tennis fan, not as a tennis expert, not as

1480
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: a former tennis player, as a tennis fan, because every

1481
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: time I see these matches, I'm like, oh my god,

1482
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the best thing ever.

1483
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 2: So this is what you want before we end this pod,

1484
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: because it's been a long one. You want the top

1485
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 2: women playing against each other more more often, okay, because

1486
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: we want these great matches and we want to see

1487
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 2: Novak back playing at his best. We want to see

1488
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 2: Rafa back healthy, playing some good tennis on the clay.

1489
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: And we want that the Animal to keep up.

1490
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: Her and we want the Animal to keep it going

1491
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: this year because she is always fun to watch and

1492
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 2: I love it and I was here for that last

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01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 2: game was so Daniel Collins and I was here for it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, what I'm also looking forward to. We

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01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: didn't talk a lot about her, but we talked a

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: lot about her during the Indian Wells episode. I'm excited

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01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: to watch Ego and Clay again because I know that

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01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: some finds her boring. I mean, I don't understand it

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01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: because I feel like she's similar. And Erotics said it

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01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: on his last podcast. It's a great podcast, by the way, Surf,

1501
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: not that you go away from us. You can listen

1502
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: to two podcasts at the same time.

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01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: But but I mean, we're both profession we're all professionals.

1504
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 2: Really should.

1505
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: But he said it, really, he said it fantastically about Novak.

1506
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: Djokovic was explaining his game, like how it feels to

1507
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: play him and what he does and why it's so

1508
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: tough to play him, and he was saying that the

1509
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: way he plays doesn't maybe his genius doesn't maybe fully

1510
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: present itself to an untrained eye, but to a trained eye,

1511
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 1: to somebody who has played on this level, it's like,

1512
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: what this guy is doing is incredible. And Ega to

1513
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: me is similar in that regarded to an untrained eye,

1514
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 1: people will be like, she's the best in the world.

1515
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: But if you've played before, you're like motherfucker. Is she

1516
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: good and Clay is just her best. And so I'm

1517
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: excited to see her on Clay again because it's just

1518
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: when I watch her, I get actually goosebumps. Now I'm like,

1519
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: this is what I wished I could do. Yeah, you know,

1520
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: this is what I wish I could do, like the

1521
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: forehands from the center of the core, open flattism, just

1522
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: the like I'm excited for that to get.

1523
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: She does have to, I think, keep working on the surf.

1524
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 2: That's the one thing we talked about the life that

1525
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 2: you know, she's got to have to me, She's got

1526
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 2: to take away that pause in between the take back

1527
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 2: the TakeBack.

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01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: Can she hire you just for service.

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01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: Maybe just for sake eager.

1530
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: Not for service in a sense that you service herce

1531
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: tea in the border.

1532
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: But I would love to just help that service motion,

1533
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: There's no question about it. But I am available, eager.

1534
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: I know Daria listens to the podcast. She's actually quite

1535
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: a long listener to our podcast Sports Psychologists, So so

1536
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: I am available. I'm available for servs and volleys for anybody,

1537
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 2: you know, just throwing that out there. All right, guys,

1538
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening to our podcast. It

1539
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 2: was a long one, but we've had two or three

1540
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: four great weeks of tennis. The Sunshine Double is over.

1541
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: Congratulations to Danielle Collins and of course Yannick Sinner, well done.

1542
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: You're You're just two of my favorite people, so it

1543
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: was great to see you win. And also daniel Collins

1544
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: has been mentoring three young tennis players. And it's just

1545
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: little things like that that you don't know about Danielle.

1546
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 2: You kind of look at her. You either love her

1547
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: or you hate her. But I hope you love her

1548
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: because she's worth loving.

1549
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: And so is Yanick Sinner, Danielle the Animal and Yannick

1550
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: Swergish Sinner.

1551
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,919
Speaker 2: And nobody has a tattoo inside their lip like Danielle

1552
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 2: Collins does.

1553
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

1554
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, I have savage. She's a savage. She's

1555
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: an akon and a savage.

1556
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeh.

1557
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 2: We love her, So congrats to both. All right, guys,

1558
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 2: we will see you on the clay courts. We can't

1559
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: wait for it. Of course, Peko can't wait to see

1560
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: Eager crushing in on the clay as well. So everybody,

1561
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 2: thanks for listening to us again, and you'll hear from

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01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: us real soon. Somewhere bye bye

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Speaker 1: Fet