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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama, Girl Drama, Girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them.

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Speaker 3: High school queens.

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Speaker 4: We'll take you for a ride.

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Speaker 3: And our comic girl shared for the right teams.

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Speaker 2: Drama Queens, Jaylie's my girl of girl Fashion, but your

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Speaker 2: tough girl, you could sit with us.

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Speaker 1: Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queens Drama, drahn M

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Speaker 1: Queens Drama, Queens.

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Speaker 4: Okay fam It's season eight, episode six, not Afraid. It

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Speaker 4: originally aired October nineteenth, twenty ten. As Halloween approaches in

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Speaker 4: tree Hill, Book and Julian get an unexpected visitor, and

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Speaker 4: Nathan begins a new career. Meanwhile, Clay and Quinn struggle

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Speaker 4: with life back at the beach House, and Hayley and

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Speaker 4: Mia host an open mic night at Trick. It was

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Speaker 4: so much fun to direct this episode and it was

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Speaker 4: written by Johnny Norris.

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Speaker 3: Ah and Lou.

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Speaker 4: I went to storage yesterday in anticipation of today.

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Speaker 5: No, I still have orange hat.

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Speaker 4: And I brought it home. Fascinator the tool what it is?

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, fascinator?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Oh god, I just Brinstone just fell off of it.

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Speaker 4: It's not in great shape, but it really does give

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Speaker 4: me a giggle. I did not save the paper mache orange,

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Speaker 4: but I'll never forget it. I did also pull out

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Speaker 4: my directing binder that I mean still has everything.

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Speaker 3: Like shotlet hopeous notes, So that makes me missdirecting. Oh

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at that notebook makes me so nostalgic.

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Speaker 4: I know all of like my little blocking notes on

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Speaker 4: all little set photos. It was so fun to go

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Speaker 4: through this, so fun.

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Speaker 5: You really do keep it all. Speaking of your costume,

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Speaker 5: did because there's nothing I love more than when a

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Speaker 5: girl the tradition of like it's Halloween, so I'm going

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Speaker 5: to be sexy. I love the fact that Brooke was

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Speaker 5: just a giant orange. Yeah, did you have any input

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Speaker 5: in that or was that just as scripted?

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Speaker 4: Well, Carol and I had so much fun, and obviously

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Speaker 4: the ideas go as a clockwork orange, and it's I

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Speaker 4: sort of love that Brooke decides to do this very

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Speaker 4: avant garde, high fashion version of like a Kubrick costs.

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Speaker 3: Of course, it's the only way Brooke would have actually gone.

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Speaker 3: It couldn't have possibly been this is something else.

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Speaker 4: No, And so I remember going into wardrobe to sit

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Speaker 4: with Carol and talk about all of this, and she

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Speaker 4: was like, I think, let's just put you in the orange.

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Speaker 4: And we we got a variety of exercise balls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was gonna say that's what That's what it was, right,

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Speaker 3: They paper macheded exercise ball.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we payper machee them because it had to

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Speaker 4: be big enough that when we cut the headhole and

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Speaker 4: then the hole for my legs, it had to cover

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Speaker 4: you know, my whole body. Couldn't have slid it over

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Speaker 4: you exactly. I couldn't have like half my ass hanging out.

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Speaker 4: It would have been uncomfortable and also inappropriate. So we

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Speaker 4: And I realize, I remember this with you, Joy, because

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Speaker 4: we were figuring out you and Kate, you know, coming

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Speaker 4: into trick and I was in costume directing, so I

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Speaker 4: so I wound up having to like, you know, take

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Speaker 5: I would have I would just love to see footage

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Speaker 3: No, I remember you had such a good sense of

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Speaker 4: Ignore my tiny little veil, and yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was great. I mean, we were all

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Speaker 3: And I had to wear a giant Ham. And they

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Speaker 3: made this huge Ham costume very much like your Orange,

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Speaker 3: out of paper mache and chicken wire, but they made

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Speaker 4: I think that would have that would have really been

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well you had another great costume in this too,

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Speaker 3: the Zombie. The Zombie opening with the Laura Cross.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was so much fun and my whole goal

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Speaker 4: But I was so glad getting the script that Johnny

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Speaker 4: wrote the jokes in like Haley and Quinn arguing if

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Speaker 4: stylized and silly. We were watching clips of, Oh, come on,

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Speaker 4: watching clips of how absolutely ridiculous those movies were, you know,

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Speaker 5: I thought it was incredible, and then I found myself

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Speaker 5: after it was over going. I feel like during season seven,

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Speaker 5: And I just found myself going, that's wild, because I

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Speaker 4: Well, I really appreciate that. And what I think it

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Speaker 3: Always hard to kill your darlings. Yeah, often necessary.

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Speaker 5: I remember doing the prosthetic for my face, and I

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Speaker 5: But I remember actually telling you, I think, being like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so funny. I just loved it. And it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought he was Buffy the vampire Slave. I

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Speaker 3: It, including the hair and makeup department, the special effects,

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Speaker 4: Carol and I were like, we have a way to

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Speaker 5: I thought this week's theme song was great.

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Speaker 3: and it went wildfire around the world in the news

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00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: in ninety nine ninety seven maybe I can't remember where

439
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 3: the year was, but she walked out of the shower

440
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: totally knew it was a ten o'clock at night show,

441
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 3: and the standards and practices, thank you Standard Practices, S

442
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: and B, they went bananas. It was a whole thing

443
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 3: that the network got fined, the show got fined. It

444
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: was a big deal. But anyway, it was Sharon's fabulous ass.

445
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: And I tell you she is such a I mean,

446
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: that's just one small piece about that's funny about how

447
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 3: her fame and her notoriety, but her talent is so

448
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: broad and I've never seen that woman walk. She floats

449
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 3: through every room that she's in, and she's so elegant,

450
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 3: so gracious, knows how to communicate her own boundaries and

451
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: ideas in ways that always makes you feel good. She's

452
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 3: just somebody that every time I'm around, I want to

453
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: be quiet and listen and watch because I learned so

454
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: much from her. We're so lucky that we got her.

455
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 4: We are so lucky. And it was really interesting. I remember,

456
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 4: you know, as a director you're really watching all of

457
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 4: your fellow actors in ways that you don't when you're

458
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 4: simply acting with people, because the whole point when action

459
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 4: is called is to just be in the scene. You're

460
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 4: in the moment, and as a director you really have

461
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 4: to observe exactly what everyone's doing to make sure things

462
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 4: are being communicated, et cetera. And it's very cool to

463
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 4: me to go back and watch, you know, our show

464
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 4: in general. Obviously it's why we do a podcast, because

465
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: we're all like, wait, this is fun, but to go

466
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 4: back and watch it and also kind of remember what

467
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 4: it was like to direct. I remember watching Austin and

468
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 4: Sharon work together and thinking, God, they're such good sparring partners,

469
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 4: you know, they both they're both just so good. And

470
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 4: as we've been observing this sort OF's call it interesting

471
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 4: direction that the writers want to take Julian's character.

472
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: We'll get there, We'll get there.

473
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 4: He is so he has no ego about being so

474
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 4: self deprecating. And there's something about the choices these two

475
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 4: are making together that elevates all of this material. And

476
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: I loved watching them, the humor that they found, the

477
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 4: choices that they made, Like.

478
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 3: I bought it Mother and Son immediately, right immediately.

479
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

480
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

481
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: What was it like directing this legend? I mean, so

482
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: that's was that intimidating?

483
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 4: No, because Sharon is so wonderful. You know, she is

484
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: not a person who flexes her might. She just shows

485
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: up to elevate everyone around her. And so I think

486
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 4: I was just so enamored with her, and you know,

487
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 4: I'd walk over and have a thought and she'd kind

488
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 4: of lean in and in her very musical way, like

489
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 4: you said, she were.

490
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: Like, wait, can I just smell you for a second?

491
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: Wiley Exactly. She sort of leans in and is like,

492
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 4: oh I like that, And You're like you do you

493
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: like me? What did you? What did you say? You know?

494
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 4: It was just so much fun for me, and I

495
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 4: really cherish I mean I cherish her in general, but

496
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 4: especially the way she showed up, you know, for a

497
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: young kid directing her. It was really generous.

498
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, she I've had the good fortune of playing her

499
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 5: son on a couple of movies and she use her

500
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 5: daughter wants to Oh yeah, but you're exactly right, like

501
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 5: she was always game to try things and always had

502
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 5: fun ideas. She just was always always up for anything

503
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 5: and great sense of human just like all the things.

504
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: You know, if someone starts singing, she can break out

505
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 5: in a beautiful song. She can dance, you know, she

506
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 5: can do it. We love you, Sharon, Lauren.

507
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: Youet to find a flaw.

508
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 4: Sharon.

509
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: It's getting annoying.

510
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 5: When she offers, though, to pay for the wedding. I mean,

511
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 5: did you both have the same reaction I did, where

512
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 5: you're just like, this is going to come with strings.

513
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 6: Yes, no, don't believe it.

514
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 5: And it did. It came with so serious strings. I

515
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 5: thought it was so sweet of Brook though, that she

516
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 5: brought the binder and wanted to invite her new mother

517
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 5: in law in and say like, hey, here's what I

518
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 5: was thinking. Would you like to be a part of

519
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 5: this with me? I thought, classy move.

520
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: But I did like seeing Brooke and Julian working together again.

521
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: It's just I'm happy to see some happiness in her

522
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: life and the way the shows up for her and

523
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: Julian exploring this part of his creativity and figuring out

524
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: what he's going to do. I mean, the attempted let's

525
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: get into it. The attempted emasculation of Austin Nichols continues

526
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: and continues to backfire.

527
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 5: Yes, failed attempt to a mask late.

528
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: The dog costume, the high five the maners.

529
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 4: It only makes him.

530
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: More three dimensional, more quirky, more interesting and interesting equals attractive.

531
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: Like it's it's such easy math to me. Uh, I'm

532
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: it's hilarious to watch this attempt just continue to fall

533
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: in its face.

534
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 5: It's like the little kid thing of like I'm rubber,

535
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 5: you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off of me and

536
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 5: sticks to you. It never makes him look bad. If anything,

537
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 5: it kind of weakens the character opposite him, Like when

538
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 5: Nathan's going like noise purse if anything, that makes Nathan

539
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 5: just seem kind of juvenile yep, and him just being

540
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 5: really comfortable and settled in himself.

541
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, what are you an idiot? I've got it bag?

542
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

543
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 5: When Julie and his mom have the matching costumes. Did

544
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 5: either of you have the arrested development moment of remembering

545
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 5: when Buster and Lucille dress up and matching costumes for

546
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 5: Mother Boy. Now a mother Boy? Oh my god, it's

547
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 5: so long.

548
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: That's genius. Yes.

549
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 5: For the small portion of our audience who actually has

550
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: watched the rest of development, that's a terrific callback. You

551
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 5: should check it out because it is strong. Mother Boy

552
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 5: vibes with Juliana's Mom.

553
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: I remember knowing how well that scene was working. You know,

554
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: the way that we sort of designed the shots coming

555
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 4: around the staircase, seeing him come out of the bathroom,

556
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: going up the stairs to Sharon who's floating down the

557
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: stairs and using the coat. You know, like so musically,

558
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: the shock on everyone's faces and immediately you understand a

559
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: dynamic and you go, oh, I know what I'm in for.

560
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: And it still pleases me.

561
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: It also really works for Julian's character because we know

562
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: he's got this sort of hero complex or he's working

563
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: through it where he needs to show up and be

564
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: the guy that like makes accommodations for everyone else, makes

565
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: things easy, can sort of save the day Mom comes

566
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: into town. I don't want her to feel she wants

567
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: to be included in Halloween. I don't want her to

568
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: just have a costume by herself. That's going to be

569
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: so lonely. Yeah, I'll play along like Okay, it's annoying,

570
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: but the also the confidence in who he is to

571
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: just be able to show up and be like, Okay,

572
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: this is what's going to be helpful for my mom.

573
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 3: It's annoying, but whatever.

574
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 6: Okays refresh my memory.

575
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 5: It was either in season seven or season six. He

576
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 5: gives some backstory on her, right, and didn't she struggle

577
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 5: big time? And he felt he couldn't save her? Is

578
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 5: that right? Is that where the root is? But I

579
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 5: feel like the woman he was talking about maybe didn't

580
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 5: make it or wait a second, no, it was his mom.

581
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 5: But it was just odd because this character comes in

582
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 5: so full of life, such energy and press and that

583
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 5: I found myself going, is this the woman he was

584
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 5: trying to save because she seems good?

585
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 6: Yeah?

586
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: Wait, we're getting a note from our producer. Yes, that

587
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: it was about his mother.

588
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 5: What is that?

589
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: What did he say like I couldn't save her? Did

590
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: he did?

591
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 5: She?

592
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: We thought she died.

593
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 5: I thought it was depression, like that her light went

594
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 5: out and she couldn't see it in herself or something

595
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: to that effect.

596
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I wish I remembered to any who.

597
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 5: That's why I was just surprised when she came on

598
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 5: the scene. I thought, oh, it's interesting. The only thing

599
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 5: I know about her was that he like she was

600
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 5: not okay and he couldn't save her. And there's no

601
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 5: there's no mention, like, there's no catching up story wiser

602
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 5: exposition to explain it.

603
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, it's interesting. I feel like that's

604
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: one of those things that they think is so great

605
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: for the story when explaining the dynamic between Julianne and

606
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: his dad. And then you know, two years later they

607
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: find out she Aaron Lawrence is available and they're like,

608
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: scrip that she's going to be amazing.

609
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: That is such soap opera action behind the scenes to

610
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: do that just be like, never mind, we'll just completely

611
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 3: we'll just move it along.

612
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: There was something that I thought was so sweet. I

613
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: made a note of it, and I realized it's something

614
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: we see, you know, a couple of episodes ago when

615
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: you're still in the hospital and there's this really lovely

616
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 4: dynamic of Nathan just coming to sit with you all

617
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 4: the time. Yeah, and now that you're out and he's

618
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: beginning to figure out, like he referenced, what comes next,

619
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 4: Brook's figuring out what comes next?

620
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 5: You know?

621
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 4: Who am I? What is my identity without this big

622
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: career that I've had? And I sort of love the

623
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: callback to high school when Brooke and Nathan finally said like, oh,

624
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: we've been through a lot of the same things.

625
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: I loved that.

626
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: I like though that now in this adult moment, you're

627
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: seeing these experiences mirrored, and they're both leaning on people.

628
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: She's leaning on Julian, he's leaning on Clay. And it

629
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: sort of hit me watching the two of you and

630
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 4: your dynamic. You and James are so good together. And

631
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: I made a note that's it's kind of it feels

632
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: to me like one of the first times we're really

633
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 4: seeing two of the men on our show have this

634
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 4: sort of love story friendship the way we get to

635
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: as the girls on the show, you know, like Brooke

636
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 4: and Haley's dynamic, or our dynamic with Peyton, Like the

637
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: female friendships have been these big roots. And I guess

638
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 4: maybe because in the high school years, the journey for

639
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: Nathan and Lucas is so hateful. In the beginning and

640
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: then they wind up being these great brothers. But there's

641
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: something about this, I don't know. There's something about the

642
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 4: way the relationship has developed between you two as these

643
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 4: adult men that's giving me nostalgia in a really cool way.

644
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: And I don't know, do you remember do you remember

645
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 4: like hitting Astride and knowing that your on screen chemistry

646
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 4: was so good or did it just sort of feel

647
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: so natural that you didn't track it at the time.

648
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: Well, I will say as a viewer watching this right now,

649
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 5: I find myself going like, oh, I'm witnessing Nathan grow up,

650
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 5: Like I'm witnessing him really mature, Like as a father

651
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 5: is where I see it the most. Yeah, like the

652
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 5: joy he's finding and just being a dad and sort

653
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 5: of coming to terms with you know, he's going to

654
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 5: be a father as opposed to a basketball player and

655
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 5: chase that dream. And so I feel him maturing a lot.

656
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 5: And so the relationship with Clay feels seamless and effortless

657
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 5: to me that as he is evolving, he is able

658
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 5: to have this kind of relationship with another man where

659
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 5: they're vulnerable and they're present, you know.

660
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did not have that with Dan. That was

661
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: non modeled for him to be able to be in

662
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: a place in his life now where his relationship with

663
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: women has become really healthy, and now his son is

664
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 3: learning how to have healthy relationships with men. It's a

665
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: beautiful thing.

666
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 5: While we were doing it, I liked James immediately. He

667
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 5: was the first when I met. And James also, you know,

668
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 5: there are a few people that when I'm around them,

669
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 5: it's like catnip. I just can't help but like it

670
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 5: makes me exponentially more playful and silly, and I just

671
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 5: want to kind of like make them laugh. And James

672
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 5: is one of those people. So I just loved doing

673
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 5: things with him. So I think there was a pretty

674
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 5: quick ease to our dynamic. And he's just so likable,

675
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 5: you know that it wasn't hard to play a character

676
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 5: who loved this guy, you know, because James is just

677
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 5: he's kind of so easy to love. So it felt

678
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 5: it felt easy at the time. You know, I'm glad

679
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 5: that it translated.

680
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: It is interesting, even just the small act of going

681
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: around asking you know, he gets this note from his

682
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: son that you avoid things and taking the initiative to

683
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: reach out to a few friends, you know, in moments

684
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: be like Hey, is this true about me? Am? I?

685
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: You know, man, something we could all take a lesson from, Like,

686
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: I need to do that more. And I loved just

687
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: seeing that modeled. It's so great, and I think probably

688
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: a lot of men don't do that. I'm not a man.

689
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. Do you feel like that's something maybe

690
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: at our age now? But what are we supposed to

691
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: be twenty eight on the show at this point?

692
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 5: I think, listen, it's definitely something that a lot of

693
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 5: men do. But I feel like it's just something that

694
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 5: a lot of people do. I think a lot of

695
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: people aren't terribly self aware, and I think a lot

696
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 5: of people don't care to be terribly self aware. I

697
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 5: think therapy and looking at yourself can be uncomfortable and

698
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 5: just it's labor intensive sometimes, and I think there's a

699
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 5: lot of people who just go, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good.

700
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 5: I'm not open to feedback. I'm not looking to work

701
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 5: on that, you know, and which is fine, that's a choice.

702
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 5: But it is cool to Ethan going, oh is that right? Okay,

703
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 5: maybe this is a blind spot, let me ask around.

704
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really it was really neat.

705
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 5: I love that Jamie's such the wise owl. You know.

706
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 5: I love that he says that, and that became became

707
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 5: a through line. Another through line, which was so weird

708
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: and funny for me, was the whole bit with Chuck's

709
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 5: dad in the mask. Yeah what, it's this weird throwaway

710
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 5: line that won't go away, and I.

711
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: Just Hailey's far clowns. This was really well written, though,

712
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: because we have a we have I don't want to

713
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: say a lot, but there have been episodes that we've

714
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 3: watched where everything feels very explained, very cut and dry.

715
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: This is what the scene is, and it's the only

716
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 3: thing that's happening in the scene, when you know that's

717
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 3: not real life. In real life, there are all sorts

718
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: of things going on at the same time. And I

719
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: love that we're taking just some random little thing that

720
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: Haley's afraid of clowns, and we've worked it in and

721
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: it's it's insignificant. It's not something that's like a meaningful storyline,

722
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: but it just gives you this flavor of life going

723
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: on around you. It keeps things alive and not feeling scripted.

724
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 5: And the perfect character to have be the vessel for

725
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 5: that bit. Chuck is a nightmare, so you can only

726
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 5: imagine what his home life. Sorry, I know that's harsh

727
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 5: to judge a kid, but truthfully, that kid's a mess, right,

728
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 5: and so it's perfect that you're gonna make one of

729
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 5: his role models have this really weird thing. We don't explain.

730
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: Strange relationship to this. I love Harry clown mask.

731
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, so good.

732
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: The Harry Potter of it all was so good. I

733
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 3: mean so I totally forgot that Jamie dressed up as

734
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 3: Harry Potter and that all of his friends did. That

735
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 3: was just so so cute, perfect trio.

736
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: Oh, it was so sweet.

737
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: How much fun did you have out there with them?

738
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: Oh?

739
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: My god, it was the best. Getting to direct all

740
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 4: those kids was just so much fun because they were

741
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 4: so excited about it, and you know, we were in

742
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 4: that amazing kind of beautiful historic neighborhood, you know, just

743
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: two blocks off Market Street. And being able to dress

744
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: a neighborhood as well. You know, Halloween is such a

745
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 4: fun thing to shoot because everything has a costume, you know,

746
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: the houses, like getting getting the fog machines out and

747
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: finding the creepy place and all of it. It's like

748
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 4: it's just so enjoyable and being able to not only

749
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 4: do that, you know, design that world to then get

750
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: to drop three adorable kids in it who were so amped,

751
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 4: you know, to be out there in costume, to be

752
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: housing candy, all of it was just it was so

753
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: much fun. And by now, obviously, you know, James and

754
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 4: Jackson have such a great rapport and so it was

755
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: very sweet to watch James essentially be like dad for

756
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 4: a day with all these kids because he had to them,

757
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 4: you know, help me keep them in line, because yeah,

758
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: they're great little actors and they're wonderfully professional, but they're

759
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 4: also children. We're having a great time running around slamming

760
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: candy bars, and it was it was just like a

761
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 4: wildly fun time.

762
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 5: You did. There was another small thing that was in

763
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 5: this episode that I don't know if it was just

764
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 5: us on the day or if it was scripted, but

765
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 5: when we're back at the beach house and Clay's handing

766
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 5: out candy, you know, he's obviously very proud of this big,

767
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 5: this big bowl of candy, and when the first kids

768
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 5: come up. I loved the choice to have him actually

769
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 5: explain how great the big bull is, because you see,

770
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 5: you have your choice of the candies. I'm not just

771
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 5: giving you something. Yeah. And then in a later bit,

772
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 5: Quinn goes to hand them candy and Clay runs up

773
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 5: and like shoes her way and goes no, no, no, no no.

774
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 5: That the whole point is that they get to choose.

775
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 5: They get to choose, and she's like, oh, okay, sorry,

776
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 5: but it was such an organic way to show like

777
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 5: this little quirk of ways.

778
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that you did that well.

779
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 4: And to your point, it's those things that deepen all

780
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 4: of these characters, hailey'sphere of clowns, your obsession with candy, like,

781
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 4: it's the little details that make people feel specific.

782
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it makes the show feel alive rather than

783
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: everybody just sitting there being talking heads in perfect looking

784
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: sets that can get more real fast.

785
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like okay, another thing, another day and this

786
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 4: it just mixed it up in a way that felt

787
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: really fun and it was it was exciting and engaging

788
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 4: to me as a director, and I saw how engaging

789
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 4: it was for every single cast member.

790
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 3: Speaking of the beach House, did.

791
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 5: You say nothing, don't.

792
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 3: It's so strange that when you were talking to Quinn

793
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 3: about is it the beach House, Because if it's the

794
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: beach House, we don't have to live at the beach

795
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: house like you kept saying it. But why isn't it

796
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: just like is it the house?

797
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 5: Yeah?

798
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: Why does the line always about the beach house? Do

799
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: you have some other house somewhere?

800
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 5: Like?

801
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: Why is it always referred to as the beach house?

802
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I just say my house.

803
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 5: It feels to me the same as when they go

804
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 5: I love you, Hayley Scott, I love you Quinn James.

805
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 5: Why do we need the last name?

806
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: You know what else? They do always uh, my girl

807
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 3: and my man, Like every couple says, is my girl hungry.

808
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 6: Whatever?

809
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah my man. Have you noticed that every couple.

810
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: It's so irritating. It's clearly something that our creator like

811
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: thought was cute. And it's like me and girls like

812
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: you're never going to make fetch happen. This is the

813
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 3: same thing to me, We are never going to make

814
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: this happen. Where every single couple has the same little

815
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 3: nickname for each other. How's my girl today?

816
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 5: The only thing I still bristle on to this day

817
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 5: is if I'm doing a job, there's a line where

818
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 5: the character repeats the person's full name because I got

819
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 5: just this. We did it so much. I mean truly,

820
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 5: it was always I love you, Quinn James. It was

821
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 5: never yeah, I love you Quinn. I mean at least

822
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 5: that's how it felt to me.

823
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, does Jenny ever do that like I love

824
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 3: you Robert Buckley?

825
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 5: No? And if she did, I'd be like, are you

826
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 5: is there head trauma? What happened? Why are you doing that?

827
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 6: No?

828
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 5: I love you Jenny and Buckley like, what's your problem?

829
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really was such a thing on our show.

830
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's such a thing.

831
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: We could make it a drinking game like it is

832
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 3: in every episode and probably multiple times in every episode.

833
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 3: I feel like.

834
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 5: One thing that I really liked was how organic Nathan

835
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 5: joining Clay's new agency. Yes has been None of it

836
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 5: felt forced. It all makes complete sense, and it's so

837
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 5: smart because, like Clay says, you go you have. First

838
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 5: of all, I love that we got the actor who

839
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 5: plays Troy back. Yes, great, I wish he had recurred too,

840
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 5: But I love that Clay says, like, you, dude, you

841
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 5: have a perspective that very very few people do. Like

842
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 5: you can offer him something that none of these agents

843
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 5: or I can't. So get in there and I bought it.

844
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 5: I loved it, but it was great because it wasn't

845
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 5: like this clunky thing like a ghost will be an agent.

846
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 5: It just sort of him showing up for a friend

847
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 5: to help out. It made sense. Now, I'm like, this

848
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 5: is perfect.

849
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 3: And the little detail the thread of Jamie asking Haley,

850
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm worried that dad's gonna be in trouble

851
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 3: again or I don't know if you said start drinking,

852
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 3: or that it's just going to be bad because of

853
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: what happened last time he quit basketball, and Haley explaining

854
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: to him the difference that last time basketball left your dad,

855
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 3: this time he's leaving basketball. But every little chance they

856
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: had that Johnny our writer had to just tie in

857
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: all the little threads. It really does make such a difference.

858
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: And I love seeing Nathan embrace this new side, this

859
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 3: new thing. It's so cool.

860
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 5: I loved seeing a different color on Chase. The way

861
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 5: he was being very cold towards Mia is not something

862
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 5: that we've seen him do much of at all on

863
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 5: the show. Yeah, and he was just their whole thing

864
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 5: was great and arguably my favorite moment of the episode

865
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 5: is the moment when Julian and Sylvia hit the bar

866
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 5: at trick, and Chase is like, how about I make

867
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 5: you a drink? And Julian tries his best to convince

868
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 5: his mom that it's a bad idea, and she's like

869
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: very insistent, no, no, no nonsense, I'll try it. She

870
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 5: takes one sip and she says, oh god, that is bad.

871
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 5: That is a bad drink. That is just terrible and

872
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 5: walks off.

873
00:46:53,840 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 3: So good, bad drink, Sure, so good, so so elegant

874
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: still and subtle and just not going to engage that anymore.

875
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 5: Wow, And if we're going to be a trick, we

876
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 5: might as well dive into high five gait as in

877
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 5: the Fasoka. That is the attempted yet failed emasculation of

878
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 5: one Julian.

879
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 6: I loved it.

880
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: I just loved it. Every time Julian is authentically him,

881
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: just unashamed, awkward, himself, weird artist Julian. I love him

882
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: more and more and more and find him more interesting.

883
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: I want more of him on screen. I just it's

884
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: it's great, be a weird high fiber go for it.

885
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: Why not?

886
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 6: Yeah?

887
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 5: Also, that wasn't weird, if anything, it was enthusiastic. But

888
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 5: I mean, dude, you're dressed up in a giant dog costume.

889
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 5: No one's taking themselves seriously right now, And so the

890
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 5: fact it just made all of the dudes look really

891
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 5: petty and immature, that like, did.

892
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 6: You see the way high five?

893
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 5: To me? Just look like a guy who was going like,

894
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 5: oh yeah, dude, super high up top high five. It's

895
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 5: so dumb.

896
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 3: Do you remember ever having a conversation with Austin about this,

897
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: either of you? Were you where he explained like, I

898
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: know what they're trying to do and I know exactly

899
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 3: how to counteract it, or that he like his intentionality

900
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: around his character with all of this stuff that they

901
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: were writing for him. Did he ever talk about it?

902
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 4: Do you remember he was really unfazed. Yeah, because he

903
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 4: understood the the politics of it and knowing that we

904
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 4: were leading up to Brooke and Julian getting married and

905
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 4: that very specifically Voldemort did not want Julian to have

906
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 4: any friends. Yeah, because he didn't want to cast a

907
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 4: bunch of like cool filmmaker guys. He didn't want to

908
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 4: bring you know, anymore good looking duds onto.

909
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 3: Our so boring, what a boring personality?

910
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 4: This is a fact. I know this. I was like

911
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 4: so weird that you feel like you're competing with any

912
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 4: of these people when you're not and never were, Sir, bored,

913
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 4: I'm boring and embarrassing. It's like so embarrassing.

914
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 5: Be like if I was threatened by the guys on

915
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 5: my fantasy football team and I felt like I was

916
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 5: competing with them.

917
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you're not in the NFL, honey. It's like

918
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 4: so bizarre to me.

919
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 3: The level of insecurity is unbearably boring.

920
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: Do you think this is crazy? I've never thought this

921
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 5: until right now. But you notice that we were talking

922
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 5: the other episode, like Lee got himself into great shape. Le,

923
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 5: He's looking super handsome. I know what is coming up

924
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 5: for Lee's character? Is there a world in which that,

925
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 5: as a result of maybe him having a goal up

926
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 5: getting some positive attention.

927
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 4: Of course, because.

928
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 5: That storyline, let's spoil everyone's seen the show. He just

929
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 5: gains and it becomes a runner that he has just

930
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 5: gained a lot of weight and he's wearing like a

931
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 5: legitimate like that's meat.

932
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: What I have ye zero recollection of this.

933
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, remember when they put mouth in a full

934
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 4: fat suit and facial prosthetic.

935
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, storyline is just that he has gained a

936
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 5: lot of weight. But it's funny because now that I'm

937
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 5: thinking about it together, it's I know, I'm late to

938
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 5: the party, but this is the best shape I've ever

939
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 5: seen lean like, he looks awesome.

940
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, watching this episode last night, all the girls

941
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 4: were here and Sammy goes, oh my god, Lee's jacked.

942
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 3: Ye so cute. He looks hand and his hair, Oh yeah,

943
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 3: eyes into it.

944
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 4: It's also I was going to say a thing, and

945
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 4: then I was like, maybe that's on, you know, a

946
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: little too far. But let's just call it what it is.

947
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 4: It's such a weird thing that our boss, who wanted

948
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 4: to be our friend but was sort of old enough

949
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 4: almost to be our parent, didn't want competition around so

950
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 4: wanted to like emasculate all the boys at every step

951
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: that he could. And part of me is like, I

952
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 4: remember when, you know, our wonderful writers started kind of

953
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 4: cluing us in on all the things that were going

954
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: on and what they would be told, like, oh, well,

955
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 4: I don't want to cast a bunch of hot guys

956
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 4: to be Julian's friends. I'm not importing you know, Xyz

957
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 4: to Wilmington. Blah blah. I'm like, first of all, it's

958
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 4: so creepy. Second of all, none of us were interested

959
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 4: in you, and third of all, you were married for

960
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 4: so long, Like just what a disrespectful Honestly, it's so

961
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 4: it's so wild to me that in the midst of

962
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 4: things that were so great, like this is such a

963
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 4: great episode. All the actors are so great, the kids

964
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 4: are so great. It's charming, it's sweet. It's like a

965
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: lot of it's so innocent that there was this other

966
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 4: side to the pendulum, Like as great as some things were,

967
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: there was just this other dynamic that was so basic

968
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 4: and boring and embarrassing, embarrassing.

969
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: That's like saying, this is one of my favorite Hillary

970
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: tricks that we learned about motherhood when she talked about

971
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: how she would say to her kids when they're throwing

972
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 3: a fit in public, you're really embarrassing yourself. I use

973
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: that all what I use it. I used it all

974
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: the time. When the first time she said it, I

975
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: was like, wow, it's so good. It's so good. But

976
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: I tell you so smart. I've told so many parents

977
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 3: that and friends of mine. It's so smart. But this

978
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 3: is this is the case. It's a child really embarrassing themselves,

979
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,959
Speaker 3: and it's it's so.

980
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 5: It's so silly and short sighted, right, because it really

981
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 5: truly that insecurity could have come at the detriment of

982
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 5: our show.

983
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

984
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 5: The only reason it didn't is because you had someone

985
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 5: as charming and talented as Austin. Because had you properly

986
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 5: emasculated him and he didn't know how to play it,

987
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 5: you would have really impacted negatively one of your lead men.

988
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and leading ladies, because what does that say about

989
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 3: Brooke exactly?

990
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 5: It's yeah, it's bad. Let's talk about things that weren't bad.

991
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 5: I this is my favorite transition. I don't know if

992
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 5: I'm sure this was intentional because you put so much

993
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 5: thought into it. There was a great moment towards the

994
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 5: end where Clay and Quinn I believe we're in we're

995
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 5: in bed and you you you fade into a shot

996
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 5: of Jamie passed out on the floor from Candy, But

997
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 5: it looks eerily reminiscent of the way we just found

998
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 5: Clay and Quinn a couple episodes prior. Was that was

999
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 5: that intentional?

1000
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: I think it was.

1001
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 4: It was less like, oh I want to I want

1002
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 4: to call that out and more for me, there's been

1003
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 4: so much that's been heavy and Clay and Quinn are

1004
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 4: safe in bed and Jamie's safe at home, and like,

1005
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: what's sweeter than a little kid, you know, passed out

1006
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 4: on the floor. And what felt important to me was

1007
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 4: communicating like the ease and the safety everyone was feeling,

1008
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 4: particularly for your characters, because this is when you discover

1009
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 4: that now you know Quinn is hiding a gun and

1010
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 4: she's really struggling, her anxiety is getting the best of her,

1011
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: and maybe she's not really dealing with this post traumatic

1012
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 4: stress at the forefront of your communication as a couple.

1013
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 4: And so rather than I don't think it was like, oh,

1014
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 4: I can kind of make it look like that, it

1015
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 4: was more how do I communicate safety without having to

1016
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 4: have people talk about it? And the candy pass out

1017
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 4: for the kid feels very much like the Halloween version

1018
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 4: of Christmas Morning in a way to me, like you

1019
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 4: fall asleep on Hallowey night and you wake up on

1020
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 4: Christmas Morning. And one thing I caught, and I don't

1021
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 4: know if you guys did that I loved because the

1022
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 4: deepening of this moment for Nathan figuring out his identity,

1023
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 4: Haley coming in seeing him watching that game that she

1024
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 4: thought was in the vault and them talking about this

1025
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 4: sort of new chapter, their beginning, you know, to leave

1026
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 4: you two at ease together and see the little boy

1027
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 4: on the ground. It's such a sweet vignette of a family.

1028
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 4: And did you catch Jackson was trying so hard to

1029
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 4: keep his eyes closed at his little feet were going

1030
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 4: like this, like it's total wiggling, you know, because he's

1031
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: laying there kind of like I wonder what's happening?

1032
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 3: What are they gonna say?

1033
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 5: Cut?

1034
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it made me laugh catching that.

1035
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 3: I appreciate though, what you're saying, Rob about that, uh,

1036
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: the callback, because even if it wasn't intentional, I mean,

1037
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 3: that's just a great example of letting the material speak

1038
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: for itself because when you just lean into the safety,

1039
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: the truth is that there we don't feel totally safe

1040
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 3: because there's still some we all know Katie's still out there,

1041
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 3: So it inevitably, as a byproduct, is going to feel

1042
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 3: like there's a sense of foreboding somewhere because it can't

1043
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: possibly be all this safe. So it really worked, right, was.

1044
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 5: That colon on the couch that the dunk was there?

1045
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 5: A different scene with Junk that got cut because I

1046
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 5: just thought it was odd that Adams was there, Junk

1047
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 5: Is on the couch passed out. I just thought, like,

1048
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 5: we didn't know he was a part of Thisted.

1049
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: The Crisis Center a couple episodes ago, so they maybe

1050
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 3: like peppering him in just to remind the audience, like, oh,

1051
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: he's here, he's here, He's still around, because doesn't he

1052
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: I would assume he'd jump in on mouth storyline that

1053
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I don't know, so if was he

1054
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: in more.

1055
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 4: And having him babysit the kids while we're all at

1056
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 4: trick is a callback. I can't remember if it's a

1057
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 4: it must be a well, I don't know if it's

1058
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 4: a season six or a season seven moment. But remember

1059
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 4: when Junk and Fergie are supposed to be watching Jamie,

1060
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 4: so so we have this recurring thing that they will

1061
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: watch the kids.

1062
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I forgot that. You that we all were at trick.

1063
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 5: My brain saw the kids in their costumes and just thought,

1064
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 5: wasn't wasn't Nathan just with them? But you're right, all

1065
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 5: the adults were at trick, and yes, we have established

1066
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 5: that that he babysits.

1067
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 4: And that's part of the reason that we that we

1068
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 4: didn't have Nathan dressed up taking the kids trick or

1069
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 4: treating to very clearly delineate, like he went and did

1070
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 4: the dad thing with the kids and then brought them home,

1071
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 4: got changed and went on a date with Haley to

1072
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 4: open my hair.

1073
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 3: You had your hands full in this episode. So there's

1074
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 3: a lot of moving pieces, a ton of characters, a

1075
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 3: ton of locations, so many storylines to keep track of.

1076
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 5: Golf club did yes, big big golf collaps. Did you

1077
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 5: guys notice my hair looked orange? No?

1078
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything starts to get that kind of copper tint

1079
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 4: to the color. Timing on our show really goes warrange

1080
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 4: and yell.

1081
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I had full stripes. I mean that was

1082
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 3: a that was a rough look for my Every time

1083
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: we were over my shoulder, I was like, who highlights

1084
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: were really struggling. Yeah, each stripe fighting their way through

1085
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 3: that year.

1086
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 4: Coming into season eight, it was like that summer that

1087
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 4: the ombre hair was such a big thing, and you

1088
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 4: really see it with my hair straightened like that, you know,

1089
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 4: flat ironed, pin straight, I'm like, oh wow, look at

1090
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 4: those really light ends. They work a little better in

1091
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 4: a curl than they do. H That was a moment.

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00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: All the little things we notice. Yeah, but think about

1093
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 3: how many girls out there did that with their hair

1094
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: because they loved it, because you were wearing it that way,

1095
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't even matter.

1096
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 5: Before there was the Rachel, there was the Brook.

1097
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 4: That's right, No she can't.

1098
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: First she did technically.

1099
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 5: But that last vignette though, with Nathan and Hailey and Jamie,

1100
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 5: I thought was great. I loved moment of vulnerability where

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00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 5: Nathan is saying, will I ever be great at anything again?

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00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1103
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 5: Now that his basketball chapter is over? I loved that,

1104
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 5: and I love the way Haley reassured him. It was

1105
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 5: yet another moment of just a really good teammate and

1106
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 5: just a good partnership. And then the way you went

1107
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 5: out on it was so beautiful, where it's this slow

1108
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 5: panout shot of the three, and that's the announcer from

1109
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 5: the basketball game, you know, talking about the game itself,

1110
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 5: but obviously it works for this. But he says, Nathan

1111
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 5: Scott is having one of those knights is going to

1112
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 5: remember for the rest of his life. Yeah, It's like, yeah, perfect, perfect.

1113
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 3: It was great that the previous episode was really so

1114
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: much about healing in all these different areas, and this

1115
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: was just a great transition point, we got a bit

1116
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 3: of all the new things that are breaking forth, a

1117
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: little tie up of some things, new stuff with Chasen

1118
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: Alex and the relationship now turning into a new zone.

1119
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 3: Where will they won't they? She's going to take off

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01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 3: and go do a movie. He feels a little bit used,

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01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: He feels a little and sure. So it's I'm really

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01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 3: excited to see what the next episode's going to be

1123
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: because we did put a bow on so many things

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01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 3: in the previous and this episode.

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Speaker 4: Honorable mentions, I mean mine really go to crew like Carol,

1126
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 4: Carl Cusht and Rocky and the makeup. I mean, everyone

1127
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 4: is so good in this episode, and and the way

1128
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 4: people really showed up and committed to this material. It's like,

1129
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 4: I want to give it as a blanket to everybody.

1130
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 4: But they created like it's like they brought extra characters

1131
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 4: to set for us, and I'm just amazed by what

1132
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 4: they do.

1133
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 3: They were having so much much fun. I mean, you

1134
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: can tell it was just because it was out of

1135
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 3: the ordinary. It wasn't what we usually do, so everybody

1136
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: was excited to show up and work and do something

1137
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 3: different than they've been doing for the last ten months

1138
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: or two years.

1139
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 6: It was great.

1140
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 5: So what's yours Joy crew as well?

1141
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, same same, Carol and Tim and Rocky and I

1142
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 3: mean just the whole. It was Jane and Warder at

1143
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 3: that time, I can't remember, but there's the whole, the

1144
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 3: whole Jane, Jane Bug, that whole crew was outstanding. I

1145
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 3: guess Sophia you can get my honorable mention though, for

1146
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 3: being the director behind the scenes, taking care of it all,

1147
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 3: guiding the ship.

1148
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's where I was going to go as well.

1149
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 5: So if you directed the heck out of this episode,

1150
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 5: you should be very proud of it because it's awesome.

1151
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 5: But if I got to give a specific moment from

1152
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 5: the episode, I thought the reveal of Aaron was incredible

1153
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 5: because she does not sing in an Irish accent, so

1154
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 5: I was in no way expect it. So then when

1155
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 5: Haley goes, hey, you're great, and she says like whatever,

1156
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 5: thank you very much with that thick accent, I was like, no,

1157
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 5: holy smokes, it's it's Aaron from the helpline.

1158
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so fun. It was. It was great to

1159
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 4: get her and yeah, that that thing really gave the

1160
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 4: reveal an extra punch. I think you're right, all.

1161
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 5: Right, we got a question here. Bean asks as an actor,

1162
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 5: what has been your hardest scene to act out emotionally?

1163
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 5: For example, like when Brooke finds out she can't have kids,

1164
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 5: or when Hailey lost her mom. Also, of those heavy

1165
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 5: scenes which have been your favorite, I would say the

1166
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 5: funeral scene, Sarah's funeral scene was probably the hardest one

1167
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 5: I did on this show, just because again it was

1168
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 5: the heaviest scene I'd ever done in my career to

1169
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 5: that point. It was something I had absolutely no experience with,

1170
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 5: and I just put so much pressure on myself. So

1171
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 5: that would say that was my most challenging. Happy with

1172
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 5: how it turned out, but yeah, it was stressful at

1173
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 5: the time.

1174
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hailey thinks Nathan has died, just to go to

1175
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 3: the morgue to like look at the body.

1176
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

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01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: Really yeah, I think it's coming up if we haven't

1178
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 3: had it already. But oh yeah, because that's my short

1179
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 3: haircut so it's the last season. Oh, that was just

1180
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 3: really hard because I can cry so much better if

1181
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 3: there's another person in the scene. Yeah, Like, I'm so

1182
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 3: connected to energy of people that like, if I'm looking

1183
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 3: at you, I can I sense what your energy is

1184
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 3: and it's great as an actor unless you're working with

1185
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: somebody who's super robotic, and then that's hard. But it's

1186
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 3: to just have to conjure all that on my own.

1187
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 3: I remember it feeling really difficult, and like they were great,

1188
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: they tried. I mean, I played some music over the

1189
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 3: loudspeaker on set and everybody was quiet and I was,

1190
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 3: but then I felt self conscious about having to take

1191
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 3: over the stage with my music and my process and

1192
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is feels so like everybody's looking

1193
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 3: at me.

1194
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah.

1195
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 3: It was just hard to get out of my head

1196
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 3: and really be there. And I think also because I

1197
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 3: was actually pregnant at the time, and I didn't I

1198
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 3: was already so stressed out in my real life and

1199
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 3: worried about the stress on the baby that then to

1200
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 3: go to work and have to do something enormously stressful

1201
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: and worry that that was muscle memory that was going

1202
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 3: to be, you know, those hormones moving into my baby, Like, oh,

1203
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, it was. I really did not like

1204
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 3: shooting that. That was the hardest.

1205
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 4: I was having a very similar thought, and it's interesting

1206
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 4: to me that that were both for each of our characters,

1207
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 4: having a similar experience. The storyline of Brook finding out

1208
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 4: she couldn't have kids. It was so sad and tragic,

1209
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 4: and everybody cried on set that damnian. Maddie was crying

1210
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 4: behind the camera Austin like we but I got to

1211
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 4: do that with Austin and talk through it, say what

1212
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 4: was happening. The thing that was the hardest for me,

1213
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 4: much like what you're saying, was when I was just

1214
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 4: scripted to finally break down at Quentin's funeral because there

1215
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 4: was no talking, nothing was happening. We were just standing

1216
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 4: and I'm looking at this casket and they're like, okay,

1217
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 4: sob now. And that, to me, is so much harder

1218
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 4: than actually having an emotional experience with another person and

1219
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 4: letting that emotion come out to just be you know,

1220
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 4: like you had to in the Morgue, to just be

1221
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 4: like okay, and we're gonna pan and then come up

1222
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 4: to your face and if that's when you could start bawling,

1223
01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 4: that would be great. And you're like, okay, yeah, it's weird.

1224
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 5: And now that you say that, all I had was

1225
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 5: just an empty casket. There was no one on set

1226
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 5: with me that day. Interesting, You're right, it is so

1227
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 5: much easier when you have another person to feed off of.

1228
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, because because you get to find it and you

1229
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 4: can say, like give me a second, and like will

1230
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 4: you repeat that? You know, if you need it, you can.

1231
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 4: You can have a journey.

1232
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 5: Let's spin a wheel. Most likely, Uh oh, I feel attacked?

1233
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 5: Most likely? Actually so if I feel attacked too. Most

1234
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 5: likely to keep Christmas decorations up all year is that

1235
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 5: you were ash that would feel attacked? Actually probably, I.

1236
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 4: Mean she just loves Christmas decretition. I love to decorate

1237
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 4: for all the things. Yeah, yeah, probably maybe her the most.

1238
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 4: But there is there is current only one tree still

1239
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 4: left up. Thank you, I'm getting here. Wow, only one.

1240
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 5: That's impressive. I dragged my feet until Jenny finally said,

1241
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 5: enough is enough. You need to take it on the

1242
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 5: Christmas lights, so I would say, I'm on the short list.

1243
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 3: I leave those lights on all year round. You kidding me?

1244
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 3: Such a pain? They asked to put them up. Just

1245
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 3: leave them.

1246
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:24,919
Speaker 5: I do not disagree.

1247
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 4: You leave them on the house and then just don't

1248
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 4: turn them on.

1249
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're white. They go along the edge

1250
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 3: of the gutter. It's not like you see them. Yeah,

1251
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 3: why now, why not? I do still have some some

1252
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 3: decorations that need to go in a box. Though they're

1253
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 3: all in one at least they're all in one area,

1254
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 3: but the boxes are out, they still need to go

1255
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 3: up into the attic.

1256
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 4: I have this sort of fantasy, you know, when you

1257
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 4: do the thing you're driving with you know, your friends

1258
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 4: or your partner or whatever, and you see the like,

1259
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 4: oh and the power ball is seven hundred and seventy

1260
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 4: six million dollars this week, you know, and you do

1261
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 4: the like what would you do if you if like

1262
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 4: if you won the lottery? What would you do? And

1263
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 4: you know, there's the meme that goes around that's like

1264
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 4: you wouldn't know, but there would be signs. I'm like,

1265
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 4: if I think about it, and one of the top

1266
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 4: things on my list, you know when you go to

1267
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 4: like a botanical garden and they have the lights that

1268
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 4: wrap all the trees. Oh yeah, like they're I think

1269
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 4: they're in clear tubes and they go around like all

1270
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 4: the way up the palm trees and they do the

1271
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 4: full oak trees and they just look they magical. And

1272
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 4: I'm like, if I won the power ball, I would

1273
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 4: have someone come and wrap every tree that I can

1274
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 4: see in my yard. I would ask my neighbors. I'd

1275
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 4: be like, I'll pay for it. Can I just the

1276
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 4: whole neighborhood like that? That would be the sign probably

1277
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 4: for me.

1278
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 3: I love that.

1279
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 4: And then they'd be up all year and we would

1280
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 4: just be in like wonder Wonderland, Yeah, all the time.

1281
01:08:55,360 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 3: Next episode, Season eight, Episode seven, Luck be a lady. Okay,

1282
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 3: it's been fun, it's been Thanks everybody, see us, Hey,

1283
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 3: thanks for listening.

1284
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,519
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1285
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,400
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1286
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:18,400
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01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:19,639
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