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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong.

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Speaker 2: And Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: So Musk is also calling on Republicans to rip up

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Speaker 3: the bill. But senators I've spoken to say they do

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Speaker 3: not have time to start on Oliver, especially because the

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Speaker 3: President wants this bill on his desk by July fourth.

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Speaker 3: As for now, President Trump, we still have not heard

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Speaker 3: from him directly on these comments by Elon Musk.

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Speaker 4: Senior White House official says, well, they were caught off guard.

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Speaker 4: They weren't entirely surprised by Musk's increasing attacks on the

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Speaker 4: so called Big Beautiful Bill, and a source telling me

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Speaker 4: people in the president's orbit are furious about Musk's posts,

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Speaker 4: including where he said lawmakers should be fired for voting

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Speaker 4: for the bill, calling it a betrayal, saying it suggests

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Speaker 4: is open to funding democratic campaigns.

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Speaker 2: Things are getting weird, a they getting weird fast, a betrayal.

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Speaker 1: So here's here's where I went before we get into

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Speaker 1: the analysis.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure that first reporter said, especially, okay, we

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Speaker 5: got to run that again. First clip.

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Speaker 3: So Musk is also calling on Republicans to rip up

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Speaker 3: the bill, but senators I've spoken to say they do

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Speaker 3: not have time to start of olliver, especially because the

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Speaker 3: President wants this.

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Speaker 2: Move on his desk.

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Speaker 1: Ye accusation, I retracted Rachel Scott of ABC at pros

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Speaker 5: So this is what's bothering me about this. The coverage

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Speaker 5: and then well the attitude of the politicians, I suppose

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Speaker 5: should make sense because that's the way they do things.

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Speaker 5: The coverage in the news of it has been driving

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Speaker 5: me crazy. So you think it's really like a deep,

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Speaker 5: complicated story that deserves explanation and like so unusual and

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Speaker 5: hard to imagine that Elon, who campaigned for Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: now is against one of his pieces of a legislation.

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Speaker 2: You can't accept the fact that.

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Speaker 5: Almost all voters outside of people who are in Washington,

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Speaker 5: d c. And work for the government and maybe some

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Speaker 5: people the media, have things they believe in and believe them,

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Speaker 5: whether or not they're the politician that they voted for

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Speaker 5: or their friend or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Goes the other direction. What are you trying to suggest, sir?

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Speaker 5: Elon has been talking about the debt being unsustainable in

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Speaker 5: the biggest threat to America for years, and you think.

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Speaker 1: It's why he did the whole Doge business. That's why

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Speaker 1: he got involved in Trump in the first place. He

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Speaker 1: thought the Republican Party was the best route to do

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Speaker 1: something about the debt. And you think it's odd that

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Speaker 1: he's sticking with principal he believes in, rather than turning

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Speaker 1: over everything he believes in and going with Trump.

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Speaker 2: That, to you would be the normal thing to do.

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Speaker 5: That's how cynical we are, or how whatever it is

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Speaker 5: to phony all of politics is. You think the normal

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Speaker 5: thing to do would have been to just go along

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Speaker 5: with Trump. The abnormal thing to do is to continue

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Speaker 5: to believe what you've been saying for years.

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Speaker 2: That bothers me, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think what that is is the the media no

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Speaker 1: longer notices the tribalism, the naked like una mitigated tribalism

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Speaker 2: And I guess think it used to be that way.

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Speaker 5: I'd have to think more. I feel like there used

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Speaker 5: to be politicians, for instance, that were known for and

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Speaker 5: as a fiscal conservative that's not gonna go with you know,

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Speaker 5: this bill, which he's not. But in general, it's all

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Speaker 5: about no, no, no, you stick with your tribe, and if

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Speaker 5: as opposed to well.

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Speaker 2: The guy's been saying this about, you know.

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Speaker 5: Pick your topic immigration or tariffs or whatever for you know.

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Speaker 5: I guess because we've seen so many people flip their

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at Elon Musk.

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Speaker 1: You could easily write the headline or the story from

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Speaker 1: the point of view. Elon Musk has such serious concerns

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Speaker 1: very good soap opera stuff, but that's what happened.

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Speaker 5: Well, he called it a what a disgusting abomination or

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Speaker 5: something like that. That's a little stronger than I have

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm a middle child and everybody who voted for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's stronger than he has serious concerns.

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Speaker 5: I like that the Wall Street Journal their words were.

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Speaker 2: I thought I captured him maybe I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I believe the Wall Street Journal called Trump and Musk

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Speaker 5: you look at it that way, it's pretty interesting. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you know, on its own, but from Elon Musk's Twitter feed,

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Speaker 5: I thought this was an interesting His pinned tweet at

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Speaker 5: the top today and Elon has two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 5: million followers by the way he runs the thing he

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Speaker 5: retweeted somebody in journalism, Fox News Comments is a great

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Speaker 5: place to understand conservative views since it gets so much traffic.

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Speaker 5: I was curious what people were saying about Elon s

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Speaker 5: talking the Big Beautiful Bill, and I'm shocked. Almost every

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Speaker 5: comment on the Fox News Comments is in agreement with Elon.

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Speaker 2: Wow. I thought that was fascinating, especially because.

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Speaker 1: Fox News has gone way out of its way to

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Speaker 1: be Trump friendly. I think right Elon Musk, this was

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Speaker 1: a year and a half ago. He was at some

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Speaker 1: interest payments on the National jet just exceeded the Defense

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Speaker 1: in interest in rising. We're adding a trillion dollars to

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Speaker 1: at scale that has racked up too much credit card debt.

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Speaker 5: This does not have a good ending. We have to

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Speaker 5: reduce spending. He said that a year and a half ago.

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Speaker 5: He's been talking about that forever.

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Speaker 2: So when he.

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Speaker 5: Sticks with his principles. The odd thing is that he's

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Speaker 5: the end of my point on that. Well said, well said.

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Speaker 2: Indeed. Elon is also.

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Speaker 1: Allegedly highly annoyed that a good friend, associate teammate of

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Speaker 2: Nomination to be the head of NASA.

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Speaker 1: This Isaacson, what's his first name, mister Isaacson, whatever his

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Speaker 5: Past, yeah, we should run this clip this news clip,

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Speaker 6: Some Republicans suggest Musk maybe motivated by his own self interest,

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Speaker 5: So the pushback from the Republicans in some cases is

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Speaker 2: Know could absolutely be in there.

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Speaker 5: But like I just read, he is saying things that

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Speaker 2: True about our debt.

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Speaker 5: There is no arguing that how did he go broke

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Speaker 5: gradually then suddenly that's what we're doing? When he points

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think so. I think so.

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Speaker 1: He has shown no or very very few signs of

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Speaker 2: In a dozen different areas.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, again, it's the soap opera deliciousness of this

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Speaker 1: for the country. But the mainstream media doesn't care what's

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Speaker 2: He is going to lose this argument, I think.

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Speaker 5: So what do you think about him, you know, basically

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Speaker 5: trying to whip senators against the big, beautiful bill.

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Speaker 2: He's saying, don't vote for it. Kill the bill, Kill

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Speaker 5: He was running that all day long yesterday on his

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Speaker 5: Twitter feed, in every interview he could do. Kill the bill,

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Speaker 5: Kill the bill. Do you think he's got the power

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Speaker 5: to have any swam on that. A's listening to one

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Speaker 5: gonna go with the guy who leads their party.

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Speaker 2: I would agree.

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Speaker 1: I could see it emboldening another one or two Senators

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Speaker 1: I mean, I really really appreciate him saying this stuff.

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Speaker 1: long time now. It is the world's most predictable disaster.

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Speaker 1: I'll just recap it here very briefly. It is increasingly

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Speaker 1: cut services. We are going to solve this through rampant inflation.

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Speaker 1: The twenty trillion dollars we owe today won't be worth

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 5: Our old friend David Drucker, who we've met on the

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Speaker 5: air many times, he usually has his finger on the

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Speaker 5: pulse of Congress when they're trying to work their way

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Speaker 5: how they're going to vote. Here's his current thinking on that, and.

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Speaker 7: So there just isn't a lot of support for the

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Speaker 7: kind of fiscal restraint that used to sort of characterize

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Speaker 7: the Republican Party, at least philosophically.

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Speaker 1: I mean, four or five conservative Republicans left in the

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Speaker 1: House that say no to.

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Speaker 7: This, well, yea, if it's saying it's not saying no

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Speaker 7: to this, it's saying no to President Donald Trump, and

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Speaker 7: their voters trust Trump more than they trust them. So

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Speaker 7: as long as Trump wants this bill, this bill is

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Speaker 7: likely to pass. One way or the other.

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Speaker 2: Bill is likely to pass.

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Speaker 5: According to David Drucker, who's as good as anybody on

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Speaker 2: One way or the other, what bill though? What bill

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Speaker 2: will pass?

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Speaker 1: Because the Senate still hasn't responded to the House is

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Speaker 5: I understand your point, but it's going to be more

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Speaker 9: In that spirit, let's try to put this one behind.

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Speaker 10: Of misinformation, disinformation, the regressiveness of social policy, what we're

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Speaker 5: You know, so the way this struck me, and I

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Speaker 1: If it might set it up very quickly. Little KJP

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Speaker 1: interview with Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson about there Joe Bidel,

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Speaker 1: but Joe Biden's senile as can be. Who Barry Weiss

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Speaker 1: of the Free Press. Yeah, and it was. It was very,

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Speaker 1: very interesting. Jake is still just trying so hard to

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Speaker 1: thread the needle of Yes, everybody noticed it, and yes

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Speaker 1: everybody knew it, but we didn't know it because we

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Speaker 1: were misled by our sources.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sticking to that. And I look back with

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Speaker 2: humble nuts or whatever he's been saying. It was uncomfortable

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Speaker 2: to listen to because it's so weasily.

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Speaker 1: But the extent to which everybody close to the president

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Speaker 1: was one hundred cognizant of his non cognizance is just

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Speaker 1: it's now completely beyond dispute. Nobody could even hint that

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Speaker 1: people anywhere close to them were unaware of his decline.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't give a pass to Jake Tepper for

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Speaker 5: the reasons we've stated a thousand times. If two thirds

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Speaker 5: or more of the American people knew it with no.

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Speaker 2: Sources, come on.

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Speaker 1: But I could see that if because according to the book,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was just like five people, like the

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Speaker 1: closest handful of people that controlled everything. And if you

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Speaker 1: were friends with these people and you trusted and believed him,

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Speaker 1: and you knew him for years, and they were lying

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Speaker 1: to your face, oh no, no, behind the scenes, he's fine,

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Speaker 1: trust me, which is what they were.

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Speaker 2: Doing, right, That was actually what I was working toward.

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Speaker 2: It struck me that.

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Speaker 1: Because they have the access that they do, that's where

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Speaker 1: their attention is toward their sources, toward their cool. I'm

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Speaker 1: close to power sources, and they're they are muscles of

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Speaker 1: just everyday dopes like ourselves, observation atrophy. They become dependent

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Speaker 1: on the pipelines that they're dependent on, and it struck me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not expressing this very well, but it struck me

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Speaker 1: that they are so close, well, they can't see the

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Speaker 1: forest for the trees. Maybe that's the best way to

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Speaker 1: put it that all of the rest of us didn't

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Speaker 1: have any problems seeing the shape of the forest, and

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Speaker 1: it was unmistakable that shape and what it meant just unmistakable.

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Speaker 1: But those who are close to the halls of power,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and I'm trying to be at least

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Speaker 1: somewhat charitable here, dependent on and they have the privilege

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Speaker 1: of getting really great insider information, they are much much

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Speaker 1: more easily misled than people like us.

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Speaker 2: And I'm talking about you, good folks as well as Jackets.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: You could have the entire cabinet stand up and sing

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Speaker 1: in luscious three part harmony that Joe Biden was as

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Speaker 1: sharp as hell and we were gratified to have him

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Speaker 1: as president.

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Speaker 2: And I'd laughed.

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Speaker 1: But if I spend my life and career listening to

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Speaker 1: these people and trusting them and writing, a source close

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Speaker 1: to the president said, I guess I could see where

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Speaker 1: you get misled, right, But it's sad you're a journalist,

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, part of the reason we've never

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Speaker 1: really pursued being among the I mean, they wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: us anyway, but being among the power in the elite

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Speaker 1: and the Beltway crowd and all that idea just disgusts me.

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Speaker 2: I don't want that.

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Speaker 5: I took that from imas listening to Imus back in

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Speaker 5: the day early on, he would say, and I mean

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Speaker 5: he ended up being very powerful in the news world

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Speaker 5: at the height of his powers. You can't go to

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Speaker 5: those parties.

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Speaker 2: You can't. You can't, you can't go. You just can't

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Speaker 2: do that. You gotta stay away from most people. I

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Speaker 2: think he's right.

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Speaker 5: So coming up, among other things, we got another you know,

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Speaker 5: high school sports are coming to an end. My son's

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Speaker 5: high school. They got some state championship stuff going on.

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Speaker 5: Another trans story. You got girls softball trans pitcher dominates

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Speaker 5: and wins the state championship.

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Speaker 2: A boy, you mean a young man? Uh huh.

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Speaker 5: And also the Washington Post with an article of maybe

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Speaker 5: ice bads aren't a good idea. And I hadn't jumped

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Speaker 5: in one yet, but.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about it. I just ordered my.

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Speaker 1: Ice pool among other things on the way stay here.

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Speaker 2: Well some more business news.

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Speaker 9: So the Jet Blue and United Airlines are forming a

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Speaker 9: new partnership that will link their two companies.

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Speaker 2: Check out the announcement pay free for flyers.

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Speaker 11: Jet Blue and United Airlines are excited to announce our

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Speaker 11: new partnership. Now you'll be able to choose for more flights,

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Speaker 11: transfer miles, and enjoy your reward status on both airlines.

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Speaker 11: Jet Blue in United it's time to fly.

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Speaker 6: It turns out it's inspired two other airlines to partner up.

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Speaker 2: Really look at this that I saw. Hey, get a

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Speaker 2: load of it. Spirited Frontier hooking up this summer. Now

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Speaker 2: you'll be able to do shots with the pilot. Smoke

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Speaker 2: in the bathroom can bring you emotional support. Raccoon on

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Speaker 2: both airlines, Spirited Frontier. Bring something to watch on your

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Speaker 2: phone because your flights getting delayed. No, I can to

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Speaker 2: the point, it's very to the point.

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Speaker 5: I got my real ID in the mail, so I

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Speaker 5: can now fly again like an adult in the United

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Speaker 5: States of America if I need to. So that's very exciting.

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Speaker 5: I now have a real ideation because of nine to eleven,

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Speaker 5: I've got my real ID.

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Speaker 1: Right and immigration or something. Anyway, congratulation.

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Speaker 5: A couple of stories for you. I'll go with this

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Speaker 5: sports one first w NBA without Caitlin Clark feeling the hurt.

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Speaker 5: She has been hurt for the first time in her

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Speaker 5: career college or pro. Then out for a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 5: ratings have tanked, attendances tanked immediate. It's tough when you're

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Speaker 5: the league's barely perceptible. You know, hot streak is all based.

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Speaker 2: On one player.

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Speaker 5: That makes it rough different sports story. And you might

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Speaker 5: remember Minnesota attempted to, or at least some people in

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Speaker 5: Minnesota attempted to a couple of months back, pass a

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Speaker 5: no Dudes in Girls' Sports Act. That's not what it

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Speaker 5: was called, but they tried to pass in it. It

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Speaker 5: didn't make it. And now you have the results of that,

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Speaker 5: in that you've got this girls softball team with a

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Speaker 5: dude pitcher that is going to the state championship.

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Speaker 2: The picture has been dominating all season at.

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Speaker 5: Well done, sir, well done as a pitcher and a

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Speaker 5: hitter and a bunch of key hits that allowed the

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Speaker 5: team to move on through.

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Speaker 2: The state championship, probably because he's a dude. I'm looking

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Speaker 2: at the picture. This this, this picture is huge compared

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Speaker 2: to the other girls. I mean, like way bigger compared

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Speaker 2: to the girls. You mean, yeah, you know, if you

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Speaker 2: want to.

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Speaker 5: Be technical it, Minnesota, Minnesota, I do, I really do.

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Speaker 5: Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, he might remember that name.

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Speaker 5: He's come up many times with many stories over the years.

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Speaker 5: He is the attorney general there in Minnesota. He said,

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Speaker 5: in addition to getting exercise and the fun of competition,

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Speaker 5: playing sports comes with so many benefits to young people.

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Speaker 2: It's the first thing he said on this story.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, and then and then I believe it is

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Speaker 5: wrong to single out one group of students who already

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Speaker 5: face higher levels of bullying harassment and tell these kids

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Speaker 5: they cannot be on the team because of who they are.

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Speaker 5: I will continue to defend their rights. I will continue

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Speaker 5: to defend the rights of all students to play sports

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Speaker 5: with their friends and peers. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 5: idiotic There's been a lawsuit from one of the girls

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Speaker 5: on one of the teams that lost. You might remember

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Speaker 5: Trump did the executive order of no Dudes in Girls'

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Speaker 5: Sports or whatever it was called. Minnesota is openly defying it,

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Speaker 5: and now it's being challenging. It's got to make its

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Speaker 5: way through the courts to see if President Trump can do.

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Speaker 2: That for states or not.

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Speaker 1: Whack him upside the head with Title nine. Baby, let's

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Speaker 1: do it.

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Speaker 5: One of the players involved in the lawsuit said this

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Speaker 5: in a statement It is upsetting to see a male

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Speaker 5: athlete dominating our sport and taking opportunities away from girls

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Speaker 5: who have worked hard all season to make it to

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Speaker 5: the championship game in the state tournament. On top of

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Speaker 5: the unfairness, it oftentimes is a risk to play a

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Speaker 5: physical sport like softball against a male athlete.

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Speaker 2: Can you go back to that.

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Speaker 1: Quote from Keith Ellison, that's the response to that the

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Speaker 1: first part or the yeah.

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Speaker 5: In addition to getting exercise in the fun of competition,

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Speaker 5: playing sports comes with so many benefits for young people.

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Speaker 1: Well right, or I don't believe in discriminating against people

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Speaker 1: who already face a high level of something or other. NOI, Keith, Hello,

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Speaker 1: it's a dude playing in girls sports and he's big,

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Speaker 1: and he's strong, and he's dominating. You know. I think

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Speaker 1: back to my new slogan, which was going to be

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Speaker 1: cut the crap. This is a perfect example for America,

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Speaker 1: Keith Ellison, cut the crap.

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Speaker 2: Quit with that. You're not fooling anybody.

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Speaker 1: You're not bullying anybody with that garbage, that greeting card,

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Speaker 1: rhetoric about inclusion and crap. It's a dude playing sports

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Speaker 1: and whooping up on the girls.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is, Call it what it is and

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Speaker 2: cut the crap. So a different story.

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Speaker 5: We've got a long time client, Steve lomof Good Dude,

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Speaker 5: who've known for a long time, who we are talking

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Speaker 5: to a while back, and he swears by cold plunges,

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Speaker 5: ice baths or whatever you want to call them. They're

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Speaker 5: not literally ice, but it's like really cold water that

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Speaker 5: you get into early in the morning.

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Speaker 2: He hates it.

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Speaker 5: He's not the sort of person that likes it anymore

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Speaker 5: than you would like it. He says, he absolutely hates it.

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Speaker 5: Every morning he thinks he's not going to do it

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Speaker 5: and forces himself to do it because he's gotten such

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Speaker 5: great results out of it and sleeping better, all kinds

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Speaker 5: of different things. And this has been a hot story

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Speaker 5: for a while. The Washington posts out today are cold

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Speaker 5: plunges good for you? Here's what the science says. Cold

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Speaker 5: plunges are very popular, but in a new study shows

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Speaker 5: they may interfere with blah blah blah blah blah. I

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Speaker 5: just wanted to bring up I haven't read the article,

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Speaker 5: but I wanted to bring up this phenomenon that happens

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Speaker 5: in the media all the time. Just so you can

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Speaker 5: spot it, and it's just as tired as could be

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Speaker 5: if you're a person who reads headlines all the time.

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Speaker 5: So they'll be a new diet like intermittent fasting, and

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Speaker 5: then every newspaper you read or news show, we'll talk

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Speaker 5: about how great it is. And then once that's like

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Speaker 5: saturated and kind of like it's tired, then they got

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Speaker 5: to come out, Yeah, you got to come out a

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Speaker 5: week later with why intermittent fasting might not be as

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Speaker 5: good as you think it is. So and then you

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Speaker 5: get all the clicks on that, and everybody does that

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Speaker 5: for a while, and usually both sides of it are

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Speaker 5: crap or mostly crap. So now get ready for the

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Speaker 5: why ice plunges aren't everything people claim they are stories

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Speaker 5: for a while, and whether they are or not, I

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Speaker 5: haven't got the slightest idea, and you're probably not going

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Speaker 5: to learn it from reading any of those.

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Speaker 1: Articles, ah right right indeed, and actually on that topic,

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Speaker 1: to sort of more or less, I suspect very strongly

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Speaker 1: that the ice plunges or whatever you want to call them,

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Speaker 1: cold plunges are probably really good for some people and

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Speaker 1: not really good for others, and maybe bad for others

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Speaker 1: and it might depend on genetics or other factors. I

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Speaker 1: was just reading that they've figured out the gene mutation,

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Speaker 1: and I always figured it was that let some people

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Speaker 1: function perfectly well on say, four hours of sleep.

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Speaker 5: Uh wow, talk about we're going to get into AI

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Speaker 5: crossing paths with you know, chrispur and everything else happening

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Speaker 5: at the same time, gene editing. I wonder if you

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Speaker 5: can edit your genes to where you're you're you know,

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Speaker 5: you're a five hour a night person. Your kid is

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Speaker 5: going to be a five hour a night person for sleep?

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Speaker 5: Would you do well for your baby?

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Speaker 1: Sleep?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We all sleep. Why don't we get into this next hour?

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Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting. Heck yeah, that's the first one I've

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Speaker 1: come across where I thought I might be willing to

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Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 2: I have to put more thought into it, you know.

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Speaker 1: And now Jack's playing God. We knew he was an egomaniac,

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Speaker 1: didn't we?

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Speaker 2: Folks? Now it's theur of your proof.

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Speaker 5: Why wouldn't Why wouldn't you want to have a kid

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Speaker 5: who can get by in five hours of sleep a

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Speaker 5: day like some people can't?

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Speaker 2: Can I do it to me? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: It is it too late to edit my jeans, my

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