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Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Called Light of Health.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Live, a pre Thanksgiving Wednesday edition.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown is on assignment. He's off with the team,

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Speaker 1: flying on his way back to Detroit after just being

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Speaker 1: there for four days four days ago. We're joined today

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Speaker 1: in studio by Chris Trepasso, CBS Sports Draft and Player Analyst. Chris,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming in on short notice and just helping

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Speaker 1: us out here today. Appreciate it. It's great to be back,

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Speaker 1: and it's fun to be back the day before Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: with this new kind of annual tradition of the Bills

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Speaker 1: playing on Thanksgiving. People love seeing him. Many people want

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Speaker 1: to all they can. And we were talking about this

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Speaker 1: far be it from me to jinx this thing. Or

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Speaker 1: Josh likes the big the big day he does, you know,

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Speaker 1: he likes that big stage. He plays well in the

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Speaker 1: big stage. It's been fun to watch and it's I

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Speaker 1: think it's he doesn't win every game doing that, but

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Speaker 1: man o, man does he bring it on in the

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Speaker 1: big spotlight. Yeah. I mean we've had Lions and Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving for like seventy years. I think we need

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Speaker 1: to start a petition to keep the Bills on Thanksgiving. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: why not? Yeah? Why not? It's a lot going on

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Speaker 1: here today. Christ Passo, Steve Tasker here with you. Matt

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Speaker 1: Milana was named Defensive Player of the Week. I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people found that out and it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a foregone conclusion. The way he played, people were

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Speaker 1: I actually came on this show in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the summer, you asked me who was the most underrated

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Speaker 1: player on the Bills the entire offense defense, and I

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Speaker 1: picked Matt Milano because so much talk is about Tremaine Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to sign him to do a big

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Speaker 1: contract extension? He was the first round pick, and over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, it's really been Matt Milano

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Speaker 1: He's just all over the football field. He's smart, he's dynamic,

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Speaker 1: congratulations to Matt Milano. We all knew you deserved it.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to invite our fans. This is tailgate

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Speaker 1: Friday Day on a Wednesday before Thanksgiving, so let us

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Speaker 1: know what your plans are. I mean, it's Thanksgiving tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: so I kind of figure we kind of halfway. No

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Speaker 1: everybody's plan. The Bills play at twelve thirty. Goodness great

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Speaker 1: and man, how cool is that? That's awesome. But we

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Speaker 1: want to hear from you, the fans. Give us a

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Speaker 1: the air with us until us what your tailgate is,

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Speaker 1: or you can tweet at us at one Bills Live

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Speaker 1: and tell us what your Friday tailgate plan is. I

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Speaker 1: know it's gonna be. This is a different year for

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Speaker 1: everywhere because of the Bills playing that kickoff game on

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Speaker 1: to you by Lee Coom Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine.

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Speaker 1: I lost it for a minute there. They present the

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Speaker 1: practice updates today. Now here's what's Cavindavious White has not

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Speaker 1: to the soundbits. This edition of Soundbits presented by Tim

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Speaker 1: Horton's this here, why Josh Allen, Stefon, diggsvon Miller, the

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Speaker 1: Tim Hortons. But no one that everybody's you know, sitting

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Speaker 1: spot because that's where we I know him he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be there. I gotta throw this thing for a first down.

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Speaker 1: You got to get the first down for me. That's

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Speaker 1: basically what a guy like Shakiir is for. And I

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Speaker 1: think everyone in Western New York understands that what the

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Speaker 1: Bills want to be doing is hitting their stride in December,

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Speaker 1: in January, be as healthy as possible. Then, even if

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Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir with only seven catches going into Thanksgiving, if

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Speaker 1: he starts to hit his stride down the stretch in

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Speaker 1: these big divisional games, the last couple of games of

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Speaker 1: the season they got the Bengals on Monday Night, the

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Speaker 1: Patriots at home to end the season, if he starts

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Speaker 1: to settle into that role where he's mentally on the

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Speaker 1: same page with josh Allen, that will be huge for

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Speaker 1: this Bill's offense. And the other bonus to that is

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Speaker 1: there'll be not a lot of film on Khalil Shakir

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Speaker 1: heading into the playoffs. That's right, and you don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly what you're gonna get, although they'll be they'll dissect

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Speaker 1: every play he's had in order to find out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: last one on our list here, we're gonna go with

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Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard, linebacker, undersized linebacker, a little bit in the

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Speaker 1: Matt Milano type frame, has not seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: actions on special teams, has been up for most of

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Speaker 1: the games. He's been well, five games played, he had

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Speaker 1: one start, He's got twenty one tackles. He was a

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Speaker 1: third round pick out of Baylord tells, what do you

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Speaker 1: think about Bernard in his season? So yeah, he's kind

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Speaker 1: of been that classic undersized linebacker early in his career.

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Speaker 1: That he's dealt with those bigger blockers, not as well

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Speaker 1: as you probably want from a starting linebacker. But what

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Speaker 1: I like from the film that I've watched, I only

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Speaker 1: noticed one miss tackle on film. Now, there's sometimes where

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Speaker 1: he's just not gotten to the football, he's gotten blown

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Speaker 1: out of the play, but when he's around the football,

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Speaker 1: he's been a very sure tackler. He's only had to play.

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Speaker 1: Like you said that one start and then in some

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Speaker 1: spot duty. But to have someone that is similar athletically

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Speaker 1: to Matt Milano that can learn from Matt Milano. I

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Speaker 1: think we've seen that early on from Trevor and I

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Speaker 1: are unlimited action. That's right, and I would agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think they picked him because of his abilities. He's

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Speaker 1: an instinctive player, he's got the small range, he fastened,

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Speaker 1: and theoretically they want to be really good in coverage. Yes,

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Speaker 1: well like everything, all these hays. They want to be

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Speaker 1: more like Matt Milano. Yeah, right, defensive player of the

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Speaker 1: week if he didn't hear that. So I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Now sweet move on from that, and I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: These the rookies have been I think for the most part. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about five of these rookies from the first

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Speaker 1: all the way to the sixth round. All of them

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Speaker 1: have contributed to a team. That's the expectations were extremely high.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. This is a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl favorite by Vegas coming into the season. You weren't expecting,

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Speaker 1: and they haven't. The Bills have not played too far

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Speaker 1: below that. No, they haven't, if at all, lost three

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Speaker 1: games by a total of eight points and they're blowing

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Speaker 1: up everybody else out of the water by ten plus.

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Speaker 1: With the exception of that Browns last week. I mean,

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Speaker 1: most of their games are one big, they're hard to beat.

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Speaker 1: They're still they got to be considered the favorites to

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Speaker 1: win the division even though they're not well. They are

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Speaker 1: if they're sitting there now, right there. So I think

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Speaker 1: this draft class really has a chance to be really,

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Speaker 1: really special. Not because of the fact that maybe there's

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Speaker 1: a star player in there, or Kyrie Elam or Christian

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Speaker 1: Benford or one of those guys breaks out as a

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Speaker 1: as a shutdown corner when nobody thought they would be,

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Speaker 1: or whether James Cook comes in and becomes an Alvin

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Speaker 1: Kamara type of player around the national football everybody' I

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Speaker 1: am afraid of him. Even so the depth of that,

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Speaker 1: they get five contributors on the out of this draft class,

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Speaker 1: and they really are good players, I think because this

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Speaker 1: is a draft class. I mean, Isaiah Hodges no longer here.

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Speaker 1: There are players down the roster you know in years

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Speaker 1: past that aren't here anymore. These guys are, and they're

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Speaker 1: here for a reason, and they're getting on the field

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Speaker 1: and having some production. I think it's a really good

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Speaker 1: draft class thus far, although you know, two thirds of

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Speaker 1: the way through this their their rookie season. Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 1: most teams that have Super Bowl aspirations that are legitimate

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Speaker 1: don't have to play as many rookies, but the Bills

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Speaker 1: have had too because of the injuries, and like we said,

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Speaker 1: most of them have given the Bills and that positive

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Speaker 1: contributions entering this Thanksgiving game. As before we go later

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Speaker 1: on in the show, Eric Wood, your at ESPN, NFL Nations,

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Speaker 1: NFL Nation Lions reporter, is going to come on with

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Speaker 1: us talk about the Detroit Lions and the game with

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills tomorrow. Around the National Football League, Lions

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Speaker 1: defensive end Aiden Hutchinson was named NFC Defensive Player of

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Speaker 1: the Week. Hutchins Son against the Giants had an interception,

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Speaker 1: a fumble recovery, and three tackles. And if you haven't heard,

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Speaker 1: the New York Football Jets of bench Zach Wilson for

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Speaker 1: Sunday's game against the Bears, they're gonna start Mike Quhite.

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Speaker 1: Bills fans might remember Mike White as the guy who

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Speaker 1: started against the Bills last year in a game that

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Speaker 1: turned into a Laugher at the end. Mike White did

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Speaker 1: not hold up against the top rated defense of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills a year ago, but he's gonna get the

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Speaker 1: snaps this coming weekend against the Bears. Chiefs tight end

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey was named AFC Offensive Player of the Week.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey against the Los Angeles Chargers, had six receptions one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen yards and three touchdowns. I know most

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Speaker 1: fans have seen those. The guy had a monster game.

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Speaker 1: Was just unbelievable, and at a game when they trailed

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Speaker 1: with their final drive on the line less than two

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Speaker 1: minutes ago, it seemed inevitable that the Chiefs were gonna

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Speaker 1: go ahead and win that game and walk off. We've

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Speaker 1: seen it too many times, Panthers. The Carolina Panthers have

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Speaker 1: named our old friend here in Buffalo, Sam Darnold starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback versus the Broncos on Sunday over over Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: blanking on his name. Baker Mayfield, p J Walker, UH,

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald back on the field in Carolina, the Rams

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Speaker 1: waive the rushing leader Darryl Henderson Junior. Uh. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: and the Giants meet on Thanksgiving. Both teams are pitching

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham to be a part of their roster. Did

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Speaker 1: you see this? I mean that, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: The guy's a really good player. And I think Buffalo

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Speaker 1: I mean, in my opinion, Odell Beckham makes any team

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Speaker 1: he goes too better, no question about it. Um. And

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Speaker 1: for the for the teams that are out there having

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Speaker 1: him choose between, it's gonna come down to one of

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Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to two things, and basically one thing.

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Speaker 1: The two things are a chance to win a championship

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Speaker 1: again and the other thing, which is really what it's about,

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Speaker 1: his money. Yeah, how much are they going to commit

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Speaker 1: to him and how long is it going to be

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Speaker 1: and what the long term prospects are for him there,

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Speaker 1: Buffalo has got to be in that conversation. Dallas has

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Speaker 1: got to think they're in that conversation the Giants. I

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Speaker 1: don't see the Giants as much. I have a hard

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Speaker 1: time getting there as well, because you got to think too,

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Speaker 1: and you know this is well that you wrote an

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Speaker 1: article about this and CBS Sports about what the Giants

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Speaker 1: and Jets are gonna do at their quarterback spot. Odell

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Speaker 1: Beckham doesn't want to walk into that question exactly exactly,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, I know that the Giants, Brian Davil,

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Speaker 1: Joe Shane, they're down in New Jersey, have done a

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Speaker 1: great job getting that team out to seven and three.

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Speaker 1: They saw six and one. But I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of those games are they're winning on last second field goals,

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Speaker 1: they're winning getting on side kicks, things like that. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that they are a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

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Speaker 1: And like you're mentioning, you go into that situation if

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Speaker 1: you're Odell Beckham Jr. And you're not even sure who

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Speaker 1: the quarterback is going to be, or if it's not

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Speaker 1: a rookie, it's Daniel Jones. To me, it seems like

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Speaker 1: Bills are cowboys. I know the Bills haven't really been

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Speaker 1: in the Odell Beckham sweepstay of late, but we've heard

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Speaker 1: so much from Von Miller and Brandon Bean this season

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Speaker 1: that they're interested. They've been in talks, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens. I just don't really see the Giants being

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Speaker 1: a serious contender for OBJ. Yeah, well we'll have to

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Speaker 1: wait and see. We're gonna take a break here this one.

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Steve Tasker along with Chris Trapasso of CBS

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Speaker 1: Sports coming up after the break. Eric Woodyard, the ESPN

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Speaker 1: NFL Nation Lions reporter. He's gonna give us a little

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Speaker 1: rundown on what the Lions offer in tomorrow's twelve thirty

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Speaker 1: kickoff against the Buffalo Bills. This is One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris Trepasso here with you. We are pleased

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Speaker 1: to be joined now by our guest from ESPN NFL Nation.

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Speaker 1: He's the Lions reporter. They're in Detroit. Eric Woodyard, Eric,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris ter Passo. Thanks for coming on with us.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. How are you doing today, Steve, Chris?

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Speaker 1: What's up man? Thanks for having me? Not too much.

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Speaker 1: We're excited about this game, twelve thirty kickoff once again.

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Speaker 1: The lines, as tradition speaks, are on Thanksgiving, and now

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Speaker 1: you know, three out of the last four years the

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Speaker 1: Bills have been on Thanksgiving as well. But the Lions

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Speaker 1: come in with a three game winning streak. What I know,

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Speaker 1: it's hard and every game is different. Is there a

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Speaker 1: generalization as to why they've won their last three? What's different?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a few things, you know, before they

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Speaker 1: went on this win streak, you know, they let go

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Speaker 1: of defensive back coach Aubrey Pleasant, they shook things up

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Speaker 1: trade and t J. Hockinson. They knew they needed to

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Speaker 1: shake up after the bye week, so I think guys

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Speaker 1: just really locked in. They had a team meeting with

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Speaker 1: players only with the defense, because before it end, the

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Speaker 1: defense was ranked last in the league. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's where it's starting at defensively, that we know what

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Speaker 1: they can do. Offensively, they were scoring with the best

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Speaker 1: teams in the league, you know, for through the first

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Speaker 1: four or five weeks, But defensively is where they cleaned

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Speaker 1: this up. So I think that's what's really changed. Was

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Speaker 1: that probably that that team meeting, that players only meeting

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Speaker 1: that they had, where guys let it out and you know,

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Speaker 1: shaking things up, you know and filling that you know,

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Speaker 1: that extra push to change things around and not give

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Speaker 1: up on this season. I think that's where it changed around.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of a shake up, let's go to the Lions backfield.

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Speaker 1: That DeAndre Swift, the super talented kid from Georgia's second

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Speaker 1: round pack. I know he's been injuredy he had a

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Speaker 1: But Jamal Williams leads the NFL in rushing touchdowns, and

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Speaker 1: I know that Justin Jackson has played well too. I've

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Speaker 1: seen just from following some Lions people on Twitter this

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Speaker 1: week that is there more of a push for it

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Speaker 1: to be really a Jamal Williams and Justin Jackson backfield,

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Speaker 1: Like how will that shake out tomorrow in terms of

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Speaker 1: who's available and really of late, who the coaching staff

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Speaker 1: really prioritizes in that running backfield. Well, if you go

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Speaker 1: back to last year and you look at DeAndre Swift,

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Speaker 1: he's been he's been hurt. He hasn't been one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: So I mean when he's on the field, this guy's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's box office. He can go off for

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Speaker 1: a play at any time. But I mean he just

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Speaker 1: hasn't been available even now, you know, with him playing

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Speaker 1: right now. I talk to him last week and he says,

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Speaker 1: I'm still not one hundred percent. I'm pushing through, you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever the role need, whatever the role the team needs

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Speaker 1: for me to push through, That's what I'm doing. But

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Speaker 1: you know, he's just not one hundred percent. You know

639
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Speaker 1: that that shoulder, that ankle continues to bother him. And meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Jamal Williams on the other side, has been consistent, he's

641
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: been steady, he's been reliable. So I don't think necessarily

642
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Speaker 1: they're trying to push for the other two guys. I

643
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: think it's just that Swift hasn't been himself completely one

644
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Speaker 1: hundred percent to do the things that he's capable of

645
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Speaker 1: doing with that many touches. So I think until he

646
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Speaker 1: gets all the way there, I mean, it might be

647
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Speaker 1: too late. At this point, it seems like Jamal Williams

648
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Speaker 1: has established himself as the you know, the number one

649
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Speaker 1: running back leaves the league and rushing touchdowns and yeah,

650
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: he's been playing really, really good this season. Chris and

651
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: I've been talking about the Bills rookies. The Lions have

652
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: a lot of younger players that are really starting to contribute.

653
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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson was named Defensive Player of the Week for

654
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Speaker 1: the game he had against the Giants. And now, how

655
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Speaker 1: much Fanny is Jamison Williams gonna help as he gets

656
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Speaker 1: back into the fullest he gonna be able to step

657
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Speaker 1: on the field or is this way too early for

658
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: him to think about or is he do you anticipate

659
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Speaker 1: him playing what's the latest on him and what are

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Speaker 1: they saying about his progress. Yeah, so he returned to

661
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Speaker 1: practice this week, got some extra throws in with the

662
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Speaker 1: backup quarterback, Tim Boyle, and Boyle told me yesterday he said, man,

663
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Speaker 1: his speed is amazing. He hasn't lost anything. So the

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Speaker 1: goal is to get him back, you know. Dan Kempbell

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Speaker 1: said all alone. They're looking at playing him this season.

666
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Speaker 1: They were saying after Thanksgiving, they got a twenty one

667
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: day window to decide what they're gonna do. Jamison wants

668
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Speaker 1: to play. Kid is ready to go. So I think

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Speaker 1: he can help this team with his speed. They need

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Speaker 1: that deep ball threat, you know. I think he's fast

671
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Speaker 1: enough to be able to get him that option. We

672
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Speaker 1: know it. I'm in Ross Saint Brockie catch those short passes,

673
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Speaker 1: and you know, they got guys Calif Raymond and guys

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Speaker 1: who really can do things in the short range, but

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Speaker 1: really not a deep bad guy. And I think his

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Speaker 1: speed opens up the field for just everybody. So I

677
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Speaker 1: think when he comes back, I'm not sure how many

678
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, receptions or something he'll get for

679
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Speaker 1: the end of the season, but he's definitely gonna help

680
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: and everybody's super excited to have this guy even just

681
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Speaker 1: returning to practice. Eric, I have a follow up on

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Speaker 1: the rookie class. Not really a question, but tell the

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Speaker 1: listeners about two other rookies. Malcolm Rodrigue as a linebacker

684
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Speaker 1: who I remember scouting in Oklahoma State and loved him.

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00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: And Kirby Joseph another draft crusher mind because I'm I'm

686
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Speaker 1: a draft guy at heart out of Illinois. Talk to

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Speaker 1: or talk to us and tell the listeners about how

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Speaker 1: well they have played for this Lion's defense, especially over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of games. Yeah, so we talk about

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Speaker 1: Aidan Hudson getting the player of the week, but you know,

691
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Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago, Kirby Joseph got it.

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Speaker 1: You know, a couple picks off Aaron Rodgers in Malcolm Rodriguez,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys were introducing him through hard knocks.

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Speaker 1: These guys are all starters on a defense. So I mean, yes,

695
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: the defense is struggling in Detroit, but these are young

696
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Speaker 1: contributors that's coming in, that's learning. You know, where you're

697
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Speaker 1: starting three four defenders on defense. I mean that lets

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Speaker 1: you know that these guys were coming in ready to play.

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Speaker 1: So it's now just being patient and you're seeing the

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Speaker 1: these guys continue to get better and return your saying

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00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: alliance getting better. So I think, yeah, these guys came

702
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: in from day one ready to play. They're ready to go.

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Speaker 1: You know, they got that mentality, that dog. And I

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Speaker 1: think you gotta give a shout out to Brad Holmes

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Speaker 1: for identifying this type of talent, you know, especially you

706
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Speaker 1: know those levels in the draft, getting fourth round picks

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Speaker 1: and third round picks and guys that can contribute on

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Speaker 1: this level. You know, I think you gotta give Brad

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Speaker 1: Holmes as his flowers because he's doing a good job.

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Speaker 1: How has Jared Goff played through this stretch. He's been

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Speaker 1: much better. I mean, the running game is kind of carried,

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00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 1: kind of carried the team. But he hasn't been bad.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been horrible, but he hasn't been great. He's

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Speaker 1: been somewhere in the middle. He's managing the low pretty well.

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Speaker 1: And I think the thing for him is, you know,

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Speaker 1: not turning it over when he When he's not turning over,

717
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: we know he can manage a game. It's just eliminate

718
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: those turnovers and key moments, keeping his confidence because it

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00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: always seems like it's a snowball effect with him. So

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Speaker 1: I think if he's protected, he has time to throw.

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Speaker 1: You know, guys are catching us his passes, He's able

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Speaker 1: to get in the rhythm, everything is going right. He

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00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: could definitely manage the team on Jared Goff. The Lions

724
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: have only allowed fifteen sacks this season. That's the third

725
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: fewest in the NFL. That's a really good number. Would

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Speaker 1: you say, Eric that it's more been because of Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff getting the football out quickly and understanding where he

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Speaker 1: needs to go with the football, or would you put

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Speaker 1: more of that on the offensive line Penney Sewell, Taylor Decker,

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Speaker 1: Jonah Jackson and company that have really played well in

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Speaker 1: past protection. I think he'll say, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: the latter half. I think it's definitely that offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Entering this season, you know, that was really one of

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Speaker 1: the talk of the team. That was one of the

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Speaker 1: strongest units of the team. And they're still not even

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent helpy. But yeah, Penney Sewel, Taylor Decker,

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Speaker 1: those guys, you know, they're they're they're doing a hell

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Speaker 1: of a job blocking him and protecting him. And as

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Speaker 1: I just said before, if you give him that protection,

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Speaker 1: give him a little bit of time, He's gonna manage

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Speaker 1: the gang will. Nobody has to worry about that. So

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Speaker 1: I think that offensive line is really doing a really,

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Speaker 1: really good job of protecting him. How much is jeff

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00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: O Kuda's loss due to a concussion gonna hurt them?

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00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: I think it will. But I think the guys are,

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00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, ready to step up, just like that I

747
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: did last week, you know, able to pull it out

748
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: because he went out in the first quarter. Um Kirby Joseph,

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00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: you know safety secondary back there, you got Will Harris.

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Speaker 1: You know, those guys, they're ready to step up. I

751
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: think it's just that next man up mentality, Jerry Jacobs.

752
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: These guys are taking on those challenges. But yeah, I

753
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: mean he's gonna be missed. He has been playing very

754
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: very well this season, and the defense hasn't been the

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00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: greatest this year for the line, so they need everybody

756
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: to step up all the way. And I mean it's

757
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: not ideal, but I think the guys are ready to

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00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: step up. All right. We talked about injuries earlier. To

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift, I'm gonna run. Sat Brown started the season

760
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 1: on fire, gets injured, but he's played a lot better

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Speaker 1: of late. Is he back to one hundred percent? And

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Speaker 1: is he without Jamison Williams and Josh Reynolds banged up?

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Speaker 1: Is he even though he's playing in the slot, really

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Speaker 1: the the de facto number one in this offense? So

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00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: how healthy is Saint Brown? And is he that number

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Speaker 1: one in the PA? Asking for Jared Goff, I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody at this point. You guys know, nobody's one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent at this point. But you know, his ankle

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Speaker 1: was bothering him. His ankle has gotten a lot better.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is a guy that takes care of

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Speaker 1: his body. He's the son of a mister World. You know,

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Speaker 1: during during the body Way, he went back to California

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Speaker 1: actually went to a physical therapist who he was comfortable

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Speaker 1: with and his own standards and took that initiative to

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Speaker 1: take care of his body. You know. So I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be the best that he possibly can't be,

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Speaker 1: probably the rest of the season. But nobody's one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent at this point. But yeah, he is the top

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Speaker 1: guy on that offense. And you know, Jared Goff always

780
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: describes him as a friendly target. He's the guy you

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00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: go through whenever they need, you know, some guaranteed yards,

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00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna catch it. He doesn't drop the ball often.

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Speaker 1: But like I say, yeah, he's taking care of He's

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Speaker 1: taking care of his body. This is guy, like I say,

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00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: son of a mister world. And you know, if you

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00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: talk to his dad, John Brown at all, you'll know

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00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: why why this guy is wired the way he is.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think for sure he'll be He'll be

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Speaker 1: good for the rest of the season. So the Lions

790
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: take on this Bill's team at home. The Bills come

791
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: in with huge expectations. They've lost three games on the

792
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: season by a total of eight points. They got this

793
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: quarterback in Josh Allen, but when they have struggled, it

794
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: has been because they turned the football over and in

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00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: the last since Week nine, the Lions lead the league

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00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: with a plus six turnover differential. What has enabled them,

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00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of turn the corner and turn

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Speaker 1: that to their advantage, because if you get extra possessions

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Speaker 1: against anybody got a shot at beating them. Yeah, I

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00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: think this came as this. I think Dan Campbell has

801
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: really made adjustments and he got he's got these guys

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00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: playing smarter eight. If you look, and if you look

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00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: earlier in this season, a lot of those games were

804
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: really close losses, one decision here or two decisions there.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's really honing in on those details,

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00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: really honing on those fundamentals, and not shooting themselves in

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Speaker 1: the foot. So I think they're just making way better

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00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: decisions at this point, and I think you got to

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00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: credit that to coaching as well. One more question for you, Eric,

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the offensive line, and I agree it's

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Speaker 1: a very strong unit. You've seen it up close and personal.

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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about the starting guards Jonah

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00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: ja x In and Evan Brown. They have been held

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Speaker 1: out of practice or limited this week. What's their status

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Speaker 1: for this game tomorrow? Because obviously, in for any team,

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Speaker 1: if you're going to your backup guard, you're gonna be

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00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: in trouble. Yeah, so Joan, I think he's in a concussion.

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Speaker 1: You got a concussion as well, So I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't expect him to get out that quickly, just

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Speaker 1: because that's a really quick turn around. I'm not that's

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Speaker 1: the same deal with Jeff Vlkouda, with Evan as well.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll get more of the final one, you know,

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Speaker 1: tomorrow to probably know. But I think that's really just

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Speaker 1: been you know, one of the issues with this team

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00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: has been injuries as well, and as I said before,

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Speaker 1: decision making. So we'll we'll see where Evan is that,

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Speaker 1: but I don't I don't expect Jonah to probably play

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Speaker 1: him row. He's the ESPN NFL Nation Lions reporter. They're

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Speaker 1: in Detroit looking forward to the Bills Bills Lions game

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Speaker 1: tomorrow twelve thirty kickoff. Eric Woodyard, thanks for joining us here.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Thanks thanks, Eric, appreciate John, thank you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. Steve task or Chris Drapasso

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Speaker 1: coming back at it. One Bills Live. More to come

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Speaker 1: right after this. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: but I did hear that on Kyle Brand's Basement, the

848
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: podcast with Josh Allen, that they used to eat turkey

849
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: and him. I mean, Josh Allen's a big dude, his

850
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: dad's a big Guy's got a big brother too, so

851
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: it's not surprising. I'm just a turkey guy though. On Thanksgiving. Yeah,

852
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm usually a turkey yet. But if I would not

853
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: even bat an eye if they just made one of

854
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: those huge hams in the Yeah, I'm okay. Pig is

855
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: at the top of the meat pyramid for me, so

856
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm I'm totally okay with him. That's good though. Yeah,

857
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: I get it, but turkey's the traditional dish and it's

858
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: it's good as well. So from I on the tweet sheet.

859
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: In a perfect world, I throw around some weight in

860
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: the early morning. I guess that means workout get back

861
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: about three hours before game time, which is nine thirty am,

862
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: and then crack open my first of many many cold

863
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: ones hope will fill the air before kickoff. That's one

864
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: of the things about this team. And I'm talking about

865
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: the last line there. It is so fun to anticipate

866
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: every game because of the guys on the team and

867
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: the way we've seen them play in the recent past.

868
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about twenty twenty one and now twenty

869
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: two and the games we've seen them hang forty plus

870
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: in particular Thanksgiving three in the last four years, where

871
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: they've really rung it up on these teams. What a

872
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: great morning it is looking forward to that. Yeah, And

873
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: to go off what Ian saying about cracking some cold ones,

874
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: I think we all know that there have been some

875
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: Bills teams in the past that have made people want

876
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: to drink for a negative reason, to just drown the sorrows.

877
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: This is a team that you want to have some

878
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: cold beverages and party after they hang forty on a

879
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: AFC East opponent, So I definitely get it. It's just

880
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: kind of funny to me how the drinking element of

881
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: watching Bills games has really shifted from drowning the sorrows

882
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 1: to let's have some beers so we feel good watching

883
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: this game and you know, on Thanksgiving with all of

884
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: our family. Yeah, this tailgate Friday, it's actually on a Wednesday,

885
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: but this Tailgate Friday presented by high Mark, Blue Cross,

886
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: Blue Shield of Western New York, the official healthcare plan

887
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, and we thank them for doing this.

888
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: Kind of strange, it does feel kind of like a Friday,

889
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: but even though it's a Wednesday because of the long

890
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: weekend coming up. But we've got some I love these

891
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: tweets we're getting from our listeners. From faith. She says,

892
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: cinnamon roll casserole for breakfast a few minutes before the game,

893
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: turkey and then din for after let's go Bills. That

894
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: it's I think most people. Do you think most people

895
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: are gonna wait till after they got to man twelve

896
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: thirty kickoff. Yeah, we're eating after and I think the

897
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: cinnamon roll casserole is more like a Christmas morning thing

898
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: for me. But with the Bills game on at twelve thirty,

899
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: I think people are almost like planning almost a more

900
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: special breakfast than normal. It's right, not for nothing. The

901
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: last night we had a big dinner with a family over.

902
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: We had breakfast for dinner, French toast, baked cake and

903
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: eggs and all that stuff last night for supper. So

904
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: I get it. What's in cinnamon roll? I get what's

905
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: a casserole? Cinnamon roll? Casserole is I think there's something

906
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: else in it? I don't know. I would say it's

907
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: just because once you start using use the word casserole,

908
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 1: I don't know what's in. It's like sausage. Yeah, that's true.

909
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: That's true. I think it's just a huge amount of

910
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: cinnamon rolls and one big pan. You each get your

911
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: own sinnamon roll individually. That's what I would guess. All right,

912
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: that's fine, I can do that. And a few She

913
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: also said a few mimosas for the game as well,

914
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: which there is. Everybody's got their own little thing, all right.

915
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: Last one from from a Hawaii Bills fan. It's a

916
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: big breakfast game for Bills fans in Hawaii, and you

917
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: gotta think that's gotta be twelve thirty kickoffs eight thirty

918
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: in the morning for them. Yeah right, But we don't

919
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: want to get two full, so maybe just stick to

920
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: the coffee and a bowl of what the heck is

921
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: Simon ai Am? I n somebody the Hawaiian cultures. While

922
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm on Simon, what is in Simon s ai am noodles?

923
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: Noodles Hawaiian noodles. It's like, uh, it looks like ramen noodle,

924
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 1: but it's like coffee and a bowl of Hawaiian noodles.

925
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: I wonder, though, if they're in Hawaii and this game's

926
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: at twelve thirty most Bills games, well, I guess not

927
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: this season, but most Bills games are at one, so

928
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: they're used to kind of planning their breakfast around the

929
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: start of Bill those games. So I don't know if

930
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: that's is that Simon noodles? Is that a special thing

931
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: because it's Thanksgiving? Or is that what they do every week?

932
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: I wonder, I don't know. I don't know. That's interesting.

933
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: But they don't have Yeah, they're obviously not. They don't

934
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: have the other the problems that the rest of us

935
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: have with Thanksgiving. Usually you have dinner. Thanksgiving is later

936
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: in the after. It's not a lunch time thing, right

937
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: you kind of three four. Yeah, it's a big, big dinner.

938
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: And he started early, right, instead of like a late lunch. Yeah,

939
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: so this is this twelve thirty kick is is a

940
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: scheduling problem because nobody wants to be in the kitchen

941
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: slave and await for three hours and then serve it

942
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: right after right. Everybody wants to watch the game. So

943
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: my wife was getting a lot of stuff ready when

944
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: I was leaving to come here because she wants to

945
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: be able to watch the game. Normally, those couple hours

946
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: before that's when you're getting you're making the final preparations

947
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: for the turkey, the meshed potatoes, but you got the

948
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: bills second half going on. That. It's a problem because

949
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: I know this. When the game kicks off, I gotta

950
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: be planned. Me too, you know, I gotta I'm I

951
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: may get up and move around if the game's warrants it.

952
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: You know, I get to pace or whatever to you know,

953
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: just something to drain whatever commercial break you can take

954
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: a break. Yeah, but man oh man, when it kicks off,

955
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: you gotta be rooted. So a funny story that my

956
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: dad is always planted, but as the game progresses, especially

957
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: if it's a close game, he inches closer and closer

958
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: to the TV. He'll start on the couch and then

959
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: he's on the outside of the couch. Then he's on

960
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: the arm of the couch about two feet away from

961
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: the TV, so he has his own routine. But you're right,

962
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: you can't once a game starts, you can't be doing

963
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: any other activities. We said, where's wrong. Tom Hollander reminded

964
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: me of Hawaii's five hours behind, not four. Oh, so

965
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: it's really Anchorage is four, Hawaii is five. So it's

966
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: seven thirty in the morning. There you gotta get Yeah,

967
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't wake up to watch that game. Yeah, and

968
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: get all that. I mean, I don't know how hard

969
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: the Simon noodles are to make, but you got to

970
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: get that prepared before a seven thirty kick. That's that's dedication,

971
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: which is part for the chorus for any Bills well Himark,

972
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: Blue Cross, Blue Shield brings us the official health the

973
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: official healthcare plan of the Buffalo Bills. They bring us

974
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: the Tailgate Friday tweet sheet. Here on a Wednesday before Thanksgiving,

975
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso, Steve Tasker here on One Bill's Live. We're

976
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: gonna come back the top of the air. Got a

977
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: lot more going on in this show. We're gonna be

978
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: here till three. We'll talk to you after the break.

979
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris Trapasso, Bills one Bills Live. This is

980
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. They's one Bills Live presented by Called

981
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: Light a Health. Welcome back to one Bill's Live. Steve

982
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: task along with Chris Ripasso or Buddy Chris Brown is

983
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: en route to Detroit with the team on the charter flight.

984
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: They'll be there this evening and be kicking it off

985
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: at twelve thirty tomorrow. Bills on a collision course with

986
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and once again this year stumbled in the

987
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: last two or three weeks and really was their own mistakes.

988
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: I think most Bills fans would would agree that kind

989
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: of did them end in those games against the Jets,

990
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: the game against the Vikings, of course, which was you know,

991
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: blatantly obvious, and then this last week really I think

992
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: got off to a really slow start and then you know,

993
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: put it to the Cleveland Browns after getting out so

994
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: far ahead of them, they actually let let off the

995
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: gas in the last latter parts of that game. Christo Pozzo,

996
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: you did an article for CBS Sports about some of

997
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: the specific reasons on we all that hey, the Chiefs

998
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: are a good team. Hey, you know the Commanders have

999
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: got a chance to get into the playoffs. You know, Philly,

1000
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: why are you know? But you gave us some specific

1001
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: reasons why some of these playoff contenders really are different

1002
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: than the team around them, Like the Chiefs are different

1003
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: than the Bills. Why what it makes the Bills different

1004
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: than the Chiefs and the Eagles. And it's pretty interesting

1005
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: some of the things you came up with. Yeah, I

1006
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: think all of these Super Bowl contending teams, and to me,

1007
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: there's like six or seven of them, they all kind

1008
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: of have their own trade. And for the Bills, they

1009
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 1: love throwing the football on first down and Bill Walsh

1010
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: used to always say the best down to throw it

1011
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: on is first down. And if you really think about it,

1012
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: how to be really good moving the football is to

1013
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: avoid third downs Altogether. The Bills have one of the

1014
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: fewest amount of third down plays as an offensive season,

1015
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: one hundreds, which few, which is I think there's only

1016
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: one team that's below them, or they're like tied with

1017
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: the Dolphins for last in the league. That's the stat

1018
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: that you want to be last in the league in

1019
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: they're converting fifty percent of their third downs, which is

1020
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: a good Uh, you know, the second most or second

1021
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: highest conversion rate in the NFL. But passing the football

1022
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: is frequently as they do fifty eight percent of the time.

1023
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: That's the tops in the league. And they've added the

1024
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: most expected points on those first down throws. And it

1025
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: just makes sense. Say what you want about Devin Singletary

1026
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: being underrated, James Cook starting to play better and being

1027
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: more of that dynamic weapon that the Bills hoped when

1028
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: they drafted him. You have Josh Allen as your quarterback,

1029
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: and a drop back from Josh Allen over time is

1030
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: going to be a more efficient way to move the

1031
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: football than running the football. So the Bills better than

1032
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: any other team, and shout out to Dennis Locke and

1033
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: the analytics staff. This has been a trait of the

1034
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: Bills over the last three or four years. They have

1035
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: been the highest rate of first down passes in those

1036
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: one score games of any team the last two years,

1037
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: and again they're leading this season almost sixty percent of

1038
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: the time. So when you're watching the Lions tomorrow, keep

1039
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: note of how often the Bills are throwing the football

1040
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: on first down, because when they do, that's a net

1041
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: positive for the offense. And so you've got these teams

1042
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: in this article. You've got obviously the Bills, You've got

1043
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: Kansas City, You've got Philly, Dallas, and then Miami as well.

1044
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Miami, the division opponent of the Bills.

1045
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: Why specifically are they set aside as one of your

1046
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: contenders for the Super Bowl because of what's something they're doing. Yeah,

1047
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: so their edge that they get is not with the

1048
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: first down passing, it's motion. They use motion way more

1049
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: than any other team in the NFL. The league average

1050
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: for a play with pre snap motion is around forty

1051
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: eight percent of the time. The Dolphins have used motion

1052
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: almost seventy five percent of the time. And you know,

1053
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: from your playing days, I know from just being an analyst,

1054
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: motion helps a quarterback and just the rest of the

1055
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: offense identify is it man coverage or is it zone coverage?

1056
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: And I think if you solve that one riddle before

1057
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: the snap and you know, hey, it's gonna be man

1058
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: or it's gonna be zone, that helps out everybody. So

1059
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: they are running that more than any other team. And

1060
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, hats off to Tua for making improvements as

1061
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: a passer. He's been more accurate, he's been better, you know,

1062
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: under pressure, but certainly They've added Tyree Hill, Turan Armstead

1063
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: a lot of pieces of that offense. But what their

1064
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: head coach has done, more so than anything schematic that's

1065
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: super complex. He's just utilized motion at the highest rate

1066
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL. That helps out his young quarterback a lot.

1067
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: All right, and then you've got let's go to the

1068
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: other of the five teams that you mentioned the article.

1069
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: Let's go to the other AFC team, the Kansas City Chiefs.

1070
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: Everybody know, yeah, they are a contender, absolutely, but most

1071
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: people say it's because of Pat Mahomes all that. What

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00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: specific aspect of their team do you think sets them apart? Well,

1073
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: you were talking about Travis Kelsey earlier. How about yards

1074
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: after the catch? He was a monster after the catch

1075
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: in that win over the Chargers in week eleven and

1076
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: handing into week twelve, the Chiefs have accumulated the most

1077
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: yards after the catch in the entire NFL. So you

1078
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: factor that in to just how good Patrick Mahomes is

1079
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: improvising or just throwing from inside the pocket. And then

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00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: you add in, hey, even if he is only throwing

1081
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: a two to a five to a seven yard pass,

1082
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs with their scheme that Andy Reid has brilliantly

1083
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: constructed and just the pieces that they still have even

1084
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: without Tyreekill. That's why they're so tough to stop, because

1085
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: you have to try to tackle every single play. It's

1086
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: going to be difficult to bring down the likes of

1087
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey and some of their other offensive skill position

1088
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: players on that side of the ball. Then on, let's

1089
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: go to the NFC. You've got Philly, Dallas, and San Francisco.

1090
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's start with Philly, or yeah, let's start

1091
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: with Philly. So run pass option has kind of been

1092
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: a buzzword in the NFL over the last couple of years.

1093
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: It's it's a concept from the college game that has

1094
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: moved into the NFL. I don't want to say taken

1095
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: over the NFL, but every team utilizes it. The Eagles

1096
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: utilize it more than any other team, and similar to

1097
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: the Bills throwing on first down, no team has added

1098
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: more expected points to their game plan or to the

1099
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: game script than the Eagles have this season, and it

1100
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: makes sense. It's another way that a head coach can

1101
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: help a young quarterback. Because Jalen hurts their quarterback in

1102
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: that final season at Oklahoma when he kind of went

1103
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: from obscure draft prospect to a second rounder. At Oklahoma,

1104
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: they ran almost solely RPO, so he understands how to

1105
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: read that backside defensive end, when to give the football

1106
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: to his running back Miles Sanders or some of the

1107
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: other pieces that they have, or when to pull it

1108
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: back and throw the football to DeVonta Smith, to A J. Brown,

1109
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: to Dallas Scotdard. So they love the RPO and it's

1110
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: just a really simple but difficult style of play to

1111
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: stop as a defense. All right, and then we move

1112
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: over to another NFC team, Dallas, who's kind of the

1113
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: flavor of the month because of their you know, they're

1114
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: hot play and also they're pitching. They're trying to get

1115
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: over the top with a guy like Odell Beckham. But

1116
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: you think it's the other side of the ball that

1117
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: is important for Dallas. Yeah, definitely their pass rush. They

1118
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: leave the NFL with almost a forty three percent pressure

1119
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: creation rate, so on opposing quarterbacks drop backs, forty three

1120
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: percent of the time there is some type of pressure

1121
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: on the quarterback. You have Micah Parsons, who's a Defensive

1122
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: Player of the Year candidate. DeMarcus Lawrence has been there

1123
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: for multiple seasons. He was really the number one edge

1124
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: rusher before Micah Parsons entered that roster. And they have

1125
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: a rookie, Sam Williams, who's starting to play a little

1126
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: bit more. Was thought to be a first round caliber talent,

1127
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: had some off the field issues. At Ole mess falls

1128
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: to the second round. They've added him to the bunch.

1129
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: So when you face the Cowboys, you're worried about how

1130
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: good the offensive line is, dek Prescott, Trevon Diggs in

1131
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: the secondary, but it's really the pass rush that has

1132
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: done such a tremendous job. The best pressure creation rate

1133
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: in the league entering Week twelve belongs to the Cowboys.

1134
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: Let's do San Francisco, you said, and they're a little

1135
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: bit like Kansas City. And the fact that it's run

1136
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: after yards after catch, Yeah, it's the same thing. I mean.

1137
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan's offense, dating back to his days as an

1138
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, has always been centered around yards after the catch,

1139
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: and I think it makes sense. It forces linebackers and

1140
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: safeties and cornerbacks to have to tackle. And like I

1141
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier with the Chiefs that every single play they're

1142
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: putting a lot of pressure on those back seven players

1143
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: to tackle in space. It's just not easy to do

1144
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: in today's NFL with how talented tight ends are. With

1145
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: George Kittle and Deebo Samuel at Brandon Ayuk, they average

1146
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: the most yards after catch per reception in the NFL.

1147
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 1: Seven yards they average after the catch as a team,

1148
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: and it makes sense. The scheme is good and they

1149
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: have so many dudes on that side of day. You

1150
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: mentioned the scheme. Kyle Shanahan's really got a reputation for

1151
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: being able to scheme up not only you know, a

1152
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: running offense that really they can depend on, but also

1153
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, getting guys gets them open, and with a

1154
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: quarterback that is considered less than elite. Yeah, and that's

1155
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: been his one key element as a coach, which to

1156
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: me is more impressive than anything else. There's a lot

1157
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: of great play designers in the NFL, smart play callers,

1158
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: but what he's done with the likes of Garoppolo, Brian Hoyer,

1159
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins early in his career when he was in Washington,

1160
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: these are quarterbacks that if you look at the prototype

1161
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, and I think Josh Allen's one

1162
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: of them, big super athletic strong arm. Those are not

1163
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that Kyle Shanahan has taken and made into

1164
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: elite or super efficient passers. And a lot of the

1165
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: reason is because they can throw two to five to

1166
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: seven yard passes and get so much after the catch

1167
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: from their tight ends, from their running backs and wide receivers. Okay,

1168
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: last one on our list that we've been talking about,

1169
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,959
Speaker 1: and these are all teams that you know, considered Super

1170
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: Bowl contenders, and you'd have to be at Buffalo, Miami,

1171
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: Kansas City, and Philadelphia, Dallas in San Francisco. Last ones

1172
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: from the AFC. Cincinnati, they were in the Super Bowl

1173
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: surprisingly last year, made a nice run in the playoffs.

1174
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: And this thing that you're talking about with Cincinnati being

1175
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: a legit contender again this year is also something that

1176
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: was a criticism last year, and it's Joe Burrow's ability

1177
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: to play well and produce under pressure. Yeah, I mean, certainly,

1178
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: if Joe Burrow's getting sacked seven eight times in a game,

1179
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: it's going to be tough for them to win. But

1180
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: they did win a playoff game last year when he

1181
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: was sacked eight times on the road in Tennessee against

1182
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: the number one seed Joe Burrow being able to be

1183
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: a high level quarterback under pressure. It's not supposed to happen.

1184
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: If you look at there's a bunch of studies that

1185
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: have been put out there year to year. You're not

1186
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: supposed to be able to maintain that that. You can

1187
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: have one great season under pressure, but it's usually an aberration.

1188
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: Last year, Joe Burrow led the NFL within ninety two

1189
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: quarterback rating under pressure. That's really high. He's at ninety

1190
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: one this season and that's without Jamar Chase since Week eight.

1191
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: So Joe Burrow certainly is under pressure, probably more than

1192
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: the Bengals and their fans want. And it's not a

1193
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: great offensive line yet. But Joe Burrow being that number

1194
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: one overall pick, super calm, cool and collected, very accurate.

1195
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: He's proven that back to back seasons he's actually good

1196
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: when things are kind of chaotic around him. Yeah, Sincinnati

1197
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: right now sitting at the seventh playoff spot, six and four.

1198
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: There's eight teams with at least six wins in the

1199
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: conference and and another win and another one the Chargers

1200
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: at five and five. As as this season rolls on

1201
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: that and it Yeah, Cincinnati of the list, we just

1202
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: talked about Buffalo, Miami, Kansas City, Philly, Dallas, San Francisco.

1203
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is probably the one that's like, I don't know,

1204
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: they're they're very hot and cold. They're hot and cold,

1205
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: and you're right. The way they win games with him

1206
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: getting his head beat in their quarterback and still kind

1207
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: of finding a way to do it really doesn't seem sustainable.

1208
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: But they have kept it going from last year's Super

1209
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: Bowl run all the way into this year. Yeah, and

1210
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: I mean last years Super Bowl run they won three

1211
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: straight games by one score. And if anyone follows me

1212
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: on Twitter knows this that I am a big advocate

1213
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: of one score games. Your record in those games will

1214
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: almost always regress back to the mean. The Bills are

1215
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: what two and nine in their last couple one score games,

1216
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: Chances are that's gonna regress back to close to five hundred.

1217
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: Even some of the best teams, even when you're looking

1218
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: at Alabama in the college game, Nick Saban's team has

1219
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: crazy amount of talent advantage, but they're usually right around

1220
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: five hundred in those one score games. So for the

1221
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: Bengals to have gone on that run, good for them,

1222
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: great for that organization to think that they can go

1223
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: into the playoffs again in a very top heavy AFC

1224
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: and win probably three straight one score games against the

1225
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: likes of the Bills or the Chiefs, or the Ravens

1226
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: or the Titans. That would be a really tall order

1227
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: for the CINCNATI Bengals. It's interesting you talk about Joe

1228
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: Burrow still relatively young quarterback, Josh Allen just coming in

1229
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: his only his fifth year, Mahomes in his sixth year.

1230
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: You got this tier of quarterbacks that seems to be

1231
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: kind of taken over Justin Herbert, some of these young quarterbacks.

1232
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: You did an article also that we're Steve Task along

1233
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: with christ Passo here on one Bills Live. You did

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01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: another article upon this next generation of quarterbacks, the Justin Fields,

1235
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Zach Wilsons of the world. Give us your

1236
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: your overall impression of them and what you're looking at

1237
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: with the next generation of quarterbacks in the NFL. Yeah.

1238
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: So I started this series actually in Josh Allen's second

1239
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: season twenty nineteen. It's first and second year Quarterbacks that

1240
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: comes out every Tuesday on CBS Sports, And in that

1241
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: year Lamar Jackson won the MVP. So he was fun

1242
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: to watch, Josh Allen took a I think an underrated

1243
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: step forward. Everyone talks about the twenty twenty step, but

1244
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: really going from a rookie year Josh Allen to twenty

1245
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: nineteen Josh Allen was a noticeable step. The first and

1246
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: second year quarterbacks from the last two draft classes have

1247
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: not been very good. We've seen of late. Justin Fields

1248
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: has done some legendary things with his legs, but Zach

1249
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: Wilson is the lowest graded quarterback that I've watched, and

1250
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: I've watched all the throws this past week. I kind

1251
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: of thought this was interesting. So in this series, I

1252
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: do high graded throws and low graded throws, so I'm

1253
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: not writing every single throw, but if someone makes a

1254
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: ridiculous throw, I'll, you know, write it in there. Matt

1255
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: Jones had zero of those. That the Patriots scheme. Their

1256
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: game plan is so schemed up. It's check downs, its

1257
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: swing passes, its screens, slants. It's not asking him to

1258
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: do very much. So I think some of these young quarterbacks.

1259
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: We have grown accustomed to these guys taking the NFL

1260
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 1: by storm early on because the likes of Josh Allen,

1261
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson have done that. Patrick Mahomes. These first and

1262
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: second year quarterbacks over the last two draft classes have

1263
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: not really stepped up to the plate to become that

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Speaker 1: next wave at the quarterback position. And what's give us

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Speaker 1: a Jalen Hurts this year three? This year three for him?

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Speaker 1: How did he do in his you know, second, first

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Speaker 1: and second year last year? He definitely took a step forward.

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Speaker 1: It was a similar type of situation to what Mac

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Speaker 1: Jones had last year and this year where I think

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff did a great job again taking a

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Speaker 1: lot off his plate. We see so much with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: He's fitting the ball through tight windows, He's doing things

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Speaker 1: outside of structure that seemed impossible. That's not what Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts did last season. That's not what Mac Jones does

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Speaker 1: very frequently. But you definitely saw that step forward from

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. And then similar to what the Bills have

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Speaker 1: done in the offseason, they bring in a j. Brown,

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01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: they add some pieces on the defense. I'm still a

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Speaker 1: little concerned about Jalen Hurts because I think eventually you

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Speaker 1: have to make those big time throws that we saw

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Speaker 1: from Joe Burrow last season in the playoffs. We see

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Speaker 1: on a regular basis from Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: I think once you're facing better and more balanced teams

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01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: in January, you can't just win it by scheming up

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01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver screens and swing passes and screen passes. You

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Speaker 1: ultimately have to put some on your quarterback to carry

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Speaker 1: the team in those important Who is the youngest best

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01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league? What year are we talking any year?

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Speaker 1: Who's the young who's like if you're if you say

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I can give you maybe two or three

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Speaker 1: guys younger than him that are pretty good. The best

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Speaker 1: guy in the league maybe what Mahomes if he's in

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Speaker 1: that conversation, or maybe Josh if he's in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: There's a five year guys, six year guys. If we're

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Speaker 1: starting before or more recently than Josh Allen, it's got

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Speaker 1: to be Justin Herbert. I know that two of stats

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Speaker 1: are through the roof the efficiencies there we talked about,

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Speaker 1: you know, some of the advantages that his coach has

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Speaker 1: set up for him, and the situation is great. But

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Speaker 1: what Justin Herbert is able to do with his arm

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Speaker 1: and his legs is the closest thing to Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen that we see in the NFL. He's

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Speaker 1: not quite as ferocious as a runner as Josh Allen.

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01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone is. But some of those tight

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01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: window throws, like I'm mentioning the big time throws where

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01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: the coverage is perfect but the balls still fit in there.

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Speaker 1: We see it from Mahomes a lot, we see it

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Speaker 1: from Allen a lot, and almost as frequently we see

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Speaker 1: it from Justin Herbert. And he was two draft classes

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Speaker 1: after Josh Allen. Yeah, you talk about tah and the

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Speaker 1: step he's taken forward this year certainly huge. What has

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Speaker 1: and what are teams defenses? What are they doing to

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01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: try and take them out of that? Obviously he's got

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01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: weapons in Tyreek, and he's got waddle and Gizicky and

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01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: now the running game is playing all right. And you

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01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: mentioned the use that they do so much of motion

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01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: pre snap motion to give to as much information as

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01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: possible what has happened around him? That has been the

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Speaker 1: difference for him. Well, defensively, teams really haven't had much

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01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: of an answer. And really looking back to that Bills

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01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: Dolphins game, that crazy ending the heat, a bunch of

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01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: Bills were out and then they got injured in the game.

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01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: The Bills actually did a pretty good job against to

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01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: a tongue of Bloa in that game, only allowing twenty

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01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: points Relative to what other defenses have done against the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: They've kind of thrown a mixture of a lot of

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Speaker 1: what we've just talked about at opposing defenses, a ton

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01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: of our pos a lot of motion, a high level

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01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: of play action where those linebackers are sucked up close

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01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage, the middle of the field

1331
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: is wide open. They're sprinkling in those deep balls, multiple

1332
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: vertical routes to Jalen Waddle and Mike Kisiki Tyree Hill.

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Speaker 1: I think the situation around Tua is really good, and

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01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: the coaching environment, what they're doing to structure the offense

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01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: to make it as easy for him as possible has

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Speaker 1: been arguably the best in the NFL. Yeah, and it's

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01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: interesting to watch too. How that and we talk about

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01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: it every year and how we won't know who the

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01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: teams are until the first three or four weeks of

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01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: the season. Now we're week twelve, and not only we

1341
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: kind of know who they are and know who they

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01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: are not, but we also know who they are without

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01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: all their you know, cylinders in place. You know when

1344
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: guys have been in and out of the lineup and

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01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: who has emerged, who has become a surprise as well

1346
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: as a disappointment. And when you talk about Miami, there

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01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 1: hasn't been too many disappointments on that roster. They're playing

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01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: really well. They're playing really well, and outside of Tua's

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01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: injury there where they lost a couple of games, they've

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01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: been relatively healthy. I think that certainly helped. Like you

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01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, the last couple of years, that Bills have

1352
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: been almost remarkably healthy. I think their strength and conditioning

1353
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: program does a great job. I'm not insinuating that the

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01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: Dolphins are going to suddenly get hit with a rash

1355
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: of injuries, but that certainly helped their efficiency. The offensive

1356
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: line has been relatively healthy, the defense hasn't been really

1357
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 1: banged up, and they've been able to keep that core

1358
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: of Tyreek Killed, Jalen Waddle, and Mike Kisiki healthy. So yes,

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01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, I think everything the early return on Mike

1360
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: McDaniel and all of those acquisitions that they were very

1361
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: aggressive to acquire this offseason have have been huge and

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01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: have been a key reason why Tua has gone from Hey,

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01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: maybe is it going to be Teddy Bridgewater sooner than

1364
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: later too? Guy, that's in the MVP conversation entering Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: What about Mac Jones in New England? Had these rookie

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01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: quarterback last year got him to the playoffs and they

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01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: and played solid, not spectacular, got to win this last

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01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: week as well? What about his play? How New England's

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01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: handling him in their progress? I mean early on it

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01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: looks like all defense, no offense there is It's still

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01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: the case. That was still the case. I mean so

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Speaker 1: last season, in doing this article, I would give mac

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01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 1: Jones individually a pretty low grade, and I would take

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01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: some heat from Patriots fans on Twitter. But like I

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01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: was mentioning that there weren't those high caliber throws in

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01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: that section, high graded plays or throws. There were some

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01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: weeks where I was writing, oh, there was a good

1378
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 1: throw down the field. The rest of it was all

1379
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: schemed up. It all screens and checkdowns and RPOs, very

1380
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: easy throws where it was almost predetermined where he was

1381
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 1: going to throw the football. I've seen pretty much the

1382
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: same Mac Jones this season. Last year they went on

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01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 1: I think a seven game win streak, and everyone said

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01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: he's the offensive rookie of the year, and I was like, no, no, no, no,

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: this is more about Bill Belichick's defense and a good

1386
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: run game. Now they started to play a little bit

1387
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: better football. They win that game on a walk off

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01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: punt return. Last week they scored three points. I think

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01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: the fact that they won that game Zach Wilson was

1390
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: so bad and then gets benched was really covering up

1391
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: the fact that Matt Jones didn't play very well either.

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01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: So I still think the Patriots are decently formidable because

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01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,560
Speaker 1: you have Bill Belichick, because you have Matthew Judean, who's

1394
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: been a very underrated edge rusher. But in terms of

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01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: Mac Jones taking that next step individually, based on watching

1396
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: all of his film last year and all of it

1397
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: this year, I have not seen that from him. The

1398
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: system is just very truncated, and it's kind of the

1399
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: opposite of what the Bills ask Gott to Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: christ Passo, CBS Sports Draft afton player analyst in today

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01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: for Chris Brown, who is on the road with the

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01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: Bill Steve Tasker here one Bills Live. We're gonna take

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01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: a break come back, and we're gonna hear some players

1404
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: sound from Bill's safety Jordan Poorier yesterday after practice and

1405
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: as well, Stefan Digg spoke to the media too. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break here and One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health, We'll be right back. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker,

1409
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso. We're gonna start now with some post practice

1410
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: sound from Tuesday, and we're gonna start with Bill safety

1411
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, who talked about returning to Detroit to face

1412
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: the Lions and his return to the lineup last week

1413
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: versus Cleveland. I felt good. You know, obviously, anytime you

1414
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: miss you don't want him miss time, but anytime you

1415
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: do and you get back out, there's always exciting. Um,

1416
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm excited to play again this week

1417
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving game. I think this is my second one only

1418
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: I think last year is my first one. Actually I

1419
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: guess that'd be this be my third one. So it's

1420
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: always excited to play on Thanksgiving. A lot to be

1421
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 1: thankful for, but uh, you excited to play face some

1422
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: offenses that are always pass heavy and some of the movie.

1423
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: I'm heavy, the Lions pretty balanced. Yeah, what is the

1424
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: challenge of facing a team that doesn't both? Yeah, I

1425
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: mean it's tough. You know, obviously coming in you gotta

1426
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: always you gotta always stop the run. It starts with

1427
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: that in any game you're playing, being able to do that.

1428
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: You know, early on in the season, Um, you know,

1429
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: they were pretty pass heavy. And you know these last

1430
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: couple of games that they they've gotten into you know

1431
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: the three oh in the last three games they played

1432
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: on three game winning streak, they've been running the ball

1433
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: extremely well. And then you know off that comes to

1434
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 1: play action game in the boot game, and um, so

1435
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, really going into each game, you got to

1436
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: be able to stop the run no matter what you do.

1437
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: So you turned into one dimensional and um, it's a

1438
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: good football team. They're playing well. You got really good

1439
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: running backs. Um, Jared Goss playing is really good football

1440
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: right now, and so we gotta gotta come and play

1441
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: well to win. First. Giving the Cowboys games, oh yeah,

1442
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: it was when you remember that game and you look back,

1443
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 1: is it at all? You know, like that kind of

1444
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: like flipped a switch for this team and maybe kind

1445
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: of elevated you guys into the national spotlight because I

1446
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 1: know for a lot of people that was kind of

1447
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: the game when you arrived as a team. Yeah, I

1448
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: don't know, that's a good question. Um, I don't really

1449
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: thought of that. You know, I think there's probably you

1450
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: could probably pick out different situations throughout the six years

1451
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: that I've been out here that that could have been

1452
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: the flip of the switch. But that's definitely is one

1453
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 1: of them. I just remember Josh on the fourth and

1454
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: one or thirty one doing the quarterback sneak and that

1455
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: he lost the ball and then you know, picked it

1456
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: up and got another three four yards. So you know,

1457
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of situations that over the years that

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01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: you know you could say flipped the switch. You know,

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01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: that could be one of them. Um, I guess that'd

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01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: be based off of your opinion. I mean three or four.

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01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,560
Speaker 1: So does it feel like a badge of honor? I

1462
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: mean there's a reason. Yeah, I mean it's crazy. You know,

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Speaker 1: like I said, we're just thankful to be able to

1464
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: have that opportunity. You know, we're growing up. You watch football.

1465
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: You wake up in the morning of the first things

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01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: it's on. You know, everybody's cooking and and football is

1467
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: on the TV, and you know, now, I think this

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01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: might be the first twelve thirty again, the first game

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Speaker 1: of the day. So I'm gonna be cool to get

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Speaker 1: in and get out and get home at night with

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Speaker 1: our families. But you know, we gotta handle business and

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Speaker 1: and it's a good football team that that we're going

1473
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: to go play. You had the pass break up. I

1474
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: guess a joker that one play you gotta helped obviously,

1475
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: big play. You take us through your mindset of having

1476
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: to get there right at the right times. You're not

1477
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: early enough but also not late enough where he's making

1478
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: the catch and it doesn't matter. Uh yeah, I mean

1479
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,560
Speaker 1: off out of my break, I kind of saw the

1480
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 1: trajectory of the ball and knew, you know, as when

1481
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: when I saw the ball in the air, I was

1482
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: gonna be able to make a play on it, just

1483
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: based off of where I was and where he was.

1484
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: And so at that point it's just you know, getting

1485
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: to the spots as quickly as you can. You know,

1486
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: I see where the ball is going, um, and you

1487
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: know it was he's a he's a big target. And

1488
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: that's my that's my boy. Me and David go back

1489
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Um. Yeah, so now we've been

1490
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 1: talking about that game for a long time. UM. But uh,

1491
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: you know it was just one of those bang main

1492
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: players probably could have gone either way. You know, it

1493
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: was happy that it went our way. Um, is able

1494
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: to make it play on the ball. You were in

1495
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: the lineup at a point sets. I don't know that's

1496
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that's we'all to talk about. How I'm

1497
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: just trying to play the game. I'm just trying to

1498
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: play the game. I mean, I mean I wish I could.

1499
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: I wish I'd have been playing every game that'd be

1500
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, I wish I could have been healthy enough

1501
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: to play every single game. But you know, it is

1502
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: what it is. Injuries happened, and I'm here now, I'm

1503
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: healthy as I can't be ready to roll on Thursday.

1504
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: What is the balance for you, just you personally of

1505
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: getting finding that place where you're comfortable getting back out there, um,

1506
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: when knowing maybe it's certainly not going to be. Yeah,

1507
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: And you know, I think it just comes down to

1508
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: trusting the trainers and trusting the doctors outside of here, um,

1509
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: and just continue to get game my confidence and you know,

1510
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 1: whether when it was my elbow, just continue to gain

1511
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: my confidence and strength and and continue to you know,

1512
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 1: like I said, trust the doctors and then let me know.

1513
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: Look this is you know you'd be in the brace,

1514
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: you'd be all right. So um, I trust that. I

1515
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: love the game of football. Plus, once your adrenaline is

1516
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: out there, it almost seems like you can have a

1517
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: broken foot out there, you probably wouldn't feel much. So, um,

1518
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: you know that that's part of it too. And you

1519
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: know I love this game, so I'm gonna try to

1520
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: do everything I can to be on the field. Um.

1521
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: Like I said earlier, it sucks not playing. It sucks

1522
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 1: when you get hurt. That's part of the game. Um,

1523
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: you just got to bounce back. And you know I

1524
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: work hard to in the training room, a lot of

1525
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: hours behind the scenes to get back on the field. Um.

1526
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: And like I said on Sunday, I'm trying to stay

1527
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 1: on the field as much as I can. So, um, yeah,

1528
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's been a journey for sure. It's

1529
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 1: been a journey for sure, but you know it's a

1530
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: continuous journey. One day at the time probably, So the

1531
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: first time you were on the field with Damarham, you

1532
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 1: have a lot of praise for him. Where have you

1533
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 1: seen him go from you know, six weeks ago to

1534
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 1: talk to him now, Yeah, he's just continuing to grow

1535
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: with experience, and it's awesome to really see and be

1536
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 1: a part of, you know, to see, um, the steps

1537
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: that he's taken within our defense and to see how

1538
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 1: much he's grown. And I, you know, I tell him

1539
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: all the time, dude, like you keep playing, bro, you

1540
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: keep learning the game. You're gonna be a superstar in

1541
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 1: this league one day. And so, um, you know, we're

1542
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: extremely extremely proud of him, and we know we got

1543
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: a lot of work to be done. Um, but he's

1544
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: just taking one day at a time. He's really taking

1545
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: it all in and taking all the coaching from from Jimmy,

1546
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,800
Speaker 1: from Mica for myself and and really just you know,

1547
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: molding him into his own game. And um, you know,

1548
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 1: he's been a huge, huge factor for our team success

1549
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: over the last however many weeks he's been been starting

1550
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: for us. So um, it's been fun playing with him.

1551
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: Far and away the best past defense in the NFL

1552
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: since he came above the wall. And it is really high.

1553
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 1: So it's very high. Oh, of course, for sure, you know, like,

1554
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: like I said on Sunday, I think you know, lay

1555
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: in the game, you get uh, I mean even some

1556
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: of the third downs, you know, trying to get off

1557
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: the field on third and long. You know, trying to

1558
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: figure out way to get off the field on third

1559
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: and long, how to how to be better and then

1560
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, just those those two drives at the end

1561
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 1: of the game, you know, figuring out a way to

1562
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: close the game, figuring out a way to get the

1563
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: ball off of somebody or to or you know, pick

1564
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: the ball off because you know, you understand that they

1565
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: have to throw the football. So, UM, those to these

1566
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: situations where we you know, we feel like we can

1567
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: thrive in and we want to we want to thrive

1568
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 1: in and so you know, we you know, we got

1569
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,919
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do, um said. We're never satisfied.

1570
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: We do have high standards in our group. UM, so

1571
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: we just want to continue to work and continue to

1572
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: get better and uh, you know, those situations come up

1573
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: again and uh, you know we'll be better from it.

1574
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: You know. That was Jordan poor Bill's Safety talking to

1575
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: the media yesterday after practice. Do you take anything away

1576
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: from that? Chris, to me, the biggest thing is the

1577
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: way that he's kind of become a mentor for Demorrow Hamlin,

1578
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: because that's the one thing we're talking about injuries. Michael

1579
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: Hyde's not coming back this season, and the Bills are

1580
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: gonna need DeMar Hamlin to not just be on the

1581
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: field and be a solid contributors as a young player,

1582
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: but be a high level player at that other safety position.

1583
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,560
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Poyer mentioning that I've seen it on

1584
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: film that DeMar Hamlin has played better football of late,

1585
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: and like I mentioned earlier, as long as these guys

1586
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: are playing their best football in December and January, that

1587
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: matters more than anything else. Yeah, no question about. I

1588
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: think they're a very they're almost unbeatable when they're healthy

1589
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: and playing well. Yeah, when they start to get injuries

1590
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: and sprinkle the rostering with some backups and all that,

1591
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: they're still good. They're very good, but they're you know,

1592
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: they look like they're not. They don't have their foot

1593
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: all the way on the gas. I think that's the

1594
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: one thing I've noticed, both offensively and defensively. Steph Diggs,

1595
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 1: also Bill's wide receivers, shared his thoughts yesterday. I'm playing

1596
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,839
Speaker 1: back to back games and a quick turnaround in Detroit.

1597
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 1: Here's what Steph Diggs had to say, going through everything

1598
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: that you did last week and then having to turn

1599
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: around quick to play the lines, just trying to shake back. Luckily,

1600
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, we came out into game not too many

1601
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: bumps and bruises as far as by injuries and luckily

1602
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 1: at least, but it's still a quick turnaround. So trying

1603
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: to get back on the sky zoom and really get

1604
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,560
Speaker 1: your body back to where you needed to be in

1605
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: less than, you know, less than a week. So it's

1606
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: a task that we all have to face, you know,

1607
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: not just us, but the other team too, so you know,

1608
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: taking in start more football. You talk on a little

1609
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 1: bit cam after the game, interaction between you and Sean.

1610
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how much you want to

1611
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: get into what you were frustrated about book. What is

1612
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: it like in those moments, like when the bullets are

1613
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 1: flying to have people that you can kind of You've

1614
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 1: talked about Josh being that for Josh before having sewn

1615
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: in that moment for you, It's like it's I mean,

1616
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 1: it's definitely just having a right support system. He just

1617
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: goes back into fac having a right team, having the

1618
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: right guys around you, having a right staff, you know.

1619
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: As as a head coach, you know, he's our leader

1620
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: as well, so he has to lead fifty or however

1621
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: many guys, and I feel like he does just an

1622
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: amazing job as far as keeping everybody even killed. And

1623
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, he knows his players. You know, everybody needs

1624
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: to be led in different ways. And like me, I'm

1625
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: a I'm a very charismatic, high energy guy, so he

1626
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: knows that sometimes I just need to take a breath.

1627
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: And I always expect excellence for myself and I always

1628
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: want to be dominant and I feel like if I'm

1629
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 1: not being dominant, I'm not doing my job at time.

1630
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: So he knows I'm a competitor. You know, he always

1631
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: kind of brings it for a circle, like you got it,

1632
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And partly, you know, I'm not only trying

1633
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: to be dominant but be a leader at all times.

1634
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: So he knows, Uh, he knows my competitive nature and

1635
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:08,560
Speaker 1: what I want to what I want to do and

1636
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 1: bring every day. So I feel like he always brings

1637
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: it full circle and keeping it in the right mindset,

1638
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: like staying patient, you know, like because you said, if

1639
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: you said your competitive. You want to get targets and

1640
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 1: all that, like to stay patient and not get lost

1641
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: in that during your game and kind of stay fie

1642
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 1: because how do you do I just take a deep breath.

1643
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I look at the grand scheme of things

1644
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: and the scope of the game. You know, as long

1645
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: as we're having success, Uh, we're doing everything we can

1646
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: to win. You know, we had we had a lot

1647
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: of good things happen. Um, Josh should get back in

1648
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: the flood of things. He's looking great, so um, just

1649
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: trying to continue that, I'm saying him him, keeping him

1650
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: in a good spaces is all that matters. You know,

1651
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: that's our guy, and uh we ride it with him,

1652
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: so you know he's he's playing, he's playing well and

1653
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: trying to continue it. You know, keep that keeping that

1654
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: good thing flowing like the snowball effect. Once you go

1655
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: downs hill the right way, more good things happening. That

1656
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 1: was Steph is talking about the quick turnaround. Headed back

1657
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:08,759
Speaker 1: to Detroit, same hotel, same locker room, same sideline. Seems

1658
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: to be probably will be a lot more comfortable than

1659
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: most road games will be coming into this Thanksgiving game. Yeah,

1660
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: and something quick from what Dick said, there that comes

1661
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: from the game on Sunday against the Browns. What I

1662
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: found super fascinating is that he was able to go

1663
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: to Sean McDermott talk to him in game and everything

1664
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: got better. He caught the touchdown after it, when in

1665
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota there was those problems with his head coach that

1666
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting the ball enough and that ultimately forced

1667
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: the trade. So it really shows the disparity between what

1668
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: he had in Minnesota and what he has with his

1669
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: head coach and that coaching staff that he can have

1670
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: a conversation like the one he had with Sean McDermott

1671
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: and it's okay, and he can ultimately help the team

1672
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 1: later in the game if he doesn't get up to

1673
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 1: a big start, and you could tell he goes to Sean,

1674
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: he shrug, I'm not getting the ball, you know he's

1675
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: And that's and I've said this a ton, It's not

1676
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 1: that these guys are selfish. They want them, they want

1677
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: to help, and in a game where they got off

1678
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 1: to an ultimately slow start, him not getting the balls

1679
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: one of the reasons for it. And he knows it,

1680
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 1: and so do the coaches, and you know, they got

1681
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Speaker 1: to find a way around it, and he's getting deep

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01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: into the first half. You don't want it to go

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01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 1: too long before you feel like you can't don't have

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Speaker 1: an answer for it. So yeah, I'm totally for that,

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01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: having a chance to go have him go over there

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01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 1: and talk to him and say, you know, and he

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01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: did it the right way. He said listen, he wasn't

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01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: yelling or dreaming, but he screaming. But it was in game,

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01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 1: so it's pretty serious conversation. Sean McDermott I think showed

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01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: great leadership too, and the way he handles Hey, listen.

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01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what he told him. I would imagine

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01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: that it was something like, listen, we're gonna need you

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01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: before this game's over. Stay ready. I know this is

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01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 1: a hard stretch we're going through. Be ready because we're

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01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 1: gonna you're we're not gonna win this without you. That

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01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: kind of encouragement, and Steph listened, and you know, ends

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01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 1: up catching the touchdown that sends them the lead for

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01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: the first time in the first half and a half

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01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 1: where they absolutely stunk. Yeah, well by bill standards these days,

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01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: they stunk. They go into the locker room with the lead,

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01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: and I think that was a big moment for the club,

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01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:07,680
Speaker 1: being able to regroup and have a little bit of

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01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 1: a cushion. Yeah, and that's such an underrated element to

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01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: being a head coach in the NFL. We always want

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01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: to talk about play design, play calling, game management, but

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01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: being able to have already established the rapport with someone

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01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: on the offensive side when Sean McDermot is a defensive

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01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,680
Speaker 1: minded coach, that he's able to feel comfortable coming up

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01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: to you and having that intimate conversation and then ultimately

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01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: yields positive results later in the game. Christ Passo, Steve Task.

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01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: We've been here with you since one o'clock. We're gonna

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01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: be with you till the top of the hour. We've

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01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: got a couple of things We've put it out there

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01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 1: to you our listeners. An OBL mailbag tweet sheet for today,

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01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: the day before Thanksgiving. The tweet sheet presented by Corrigan

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01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving Systems of the Buffalo

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01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 1: Bills from Tim On the tweet, she says, what would

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01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: the Bills or what should the Bills approach be to

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01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: stopping the Lions diverse run scheme? I looked this up.

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01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: The Lions run scheme isn't quite as effective as the

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01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: Browns run scheme had been going into last week's game

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01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: having said that it's different and therefore is different. You know,

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01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it may not be that easy to stop.

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01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: I think what I would say is it while you're

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01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: gonna need a different techniques and different schemes to stop it,

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01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: I think you approach it with the same tactical mentality

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01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: that you did the Browns run scheme to say this

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01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: is how we supposed we're supposed to beat and was

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Speaker 1: executed at a high And I think what Jordan Poyer

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01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: said that over this three game winning streak, the Lions

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01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: have run the football very well. And I know it's

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01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: it's a pass oriented NFL today, but the Lions especially,

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01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: they want to come out and run the football well.

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01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 1: And if you get Jared Goff into a ten nothing,

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01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: thirteen nothing, seventeen nothing hole, you're in pretty good shape.

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01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: If you're the Bills and they want to come out,

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01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 1: hand the ball off, run it down your throat, if

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01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 1: you stop that run game in the first quarter, I

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01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: think it's really demoralizing for that team. Do they have

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01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 1: any qualms about putting this game in the hands of

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01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: Jared Goff If they can stop the run like that.

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01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: Well early in the season, he played pretty well, But

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01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: like when we had Eric on earlier, the offensive lines

1744
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: banged up, and if both of those guards don't play,

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01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: I think they'll be a lot more tentative, saying, all right,

1746
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: Jared Goff drop back forty five fifty times. They want

1747
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: him in that twenty to thirty pass range per game,

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01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: so it's a different run scheme. But again, with those

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01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: two guards injured or maybe not one hundred percent or

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01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: maybe not playing altogether, the Bills, especially at Oliver who's

1751
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: played a lot better to Quan Jones, they should be

1752
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 1: able to have a pretty big game on Thanksgi. Another

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01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: one from the tweet sheet, this from Hammas. She says,

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01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: is it a worry that the Bills aren't getting production

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01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 1: out of a third wide receiver or are they too

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01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: reliant on Stefan Diggs. I think it's a little bit

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01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: of a worry I mentioned earlier. Khalil Shakir. I think

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01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: entering that what I kind of call the second season

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01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 1: in a player's rookie year, I think we will see

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01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 1: more from him. I think it's not gonna be a

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01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 1: classic wide receiver three situation. It'll be a little bit

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01:25:58,240 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: of Shakir, how about Naheim High, who hasn't really been

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01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: part of the offense. And then some more James Cook

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01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: in the past game. If they have digs, you sprinkle

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01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: in some duston knocks, and certainly Gabriel Davis. I think

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01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: that's enough to not just be good, but to be

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01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 1: that elite level offense that wins Super Bowls. All right?

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Speaker 1: That was the tweet sheet presented by Corgan Moving Systems,

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01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 1: the official equipment moving systems of the Buffalo Bills. We're

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01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: gonna take a break right here, and then we're gonna

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01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: come back and give our little thoughts about what it

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01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: takes to build a game plan for beating the Detroit Lion.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Trapasso on One Bills Live. This is

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01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live. Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker Chris Trapasso here to wrap things up. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do this. We're gonna build a game plan. Presented by

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Speaker 1: United Rentals. United Rentals is the exclusive and official construction

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01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: equipment rental partner of the Buffalo Bills. Chris, why don't

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01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: you give us an offense or defense? Pick one and

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01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: build us a game plan? All right? I'll go with

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01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 1: the offense. How about seeing some more vertical passing. I've

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01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: been a big proponent during Josh Allen's minislamp to take

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01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: the check down to don't force it into coverage. But

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01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: this Lions team has allowed the fifth most big plays

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01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: in the pass game on defense. So you had your

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01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: get right game last week against the Browns. Let it

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: rep a little bit. Let's see some of that down

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01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 1: the field passing to utilize the arm strength, and then

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01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 1: later in the game you can continue to try to

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01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 1: build momentum for James Cook and Devin Singletary kind of

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01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 1: like they did against the Browns. For me and listen

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01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 1: to you tell them to go deep? All right, I

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01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: would say for the Bill's defense, they've got to stop

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01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: the run game of the Lions just as well as

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01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 1: they did against Cleveland. And then naturally, this may be

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01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: a chance for them to get a handle on the

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01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: third and long conversions they've been so susceptible to. It

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01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: would be nice to see them solve that riddle and

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01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: be more productive that way. I'd love to see him

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01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: be really successful first and second down defensively against the

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01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: run game, even on third down, and if they get

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01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: into those third and longs. Find a way to get

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01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: off the field that was that would be my way.

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01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: That's our building, building a game plan presented by United Rentals.

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01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: United Rentals is the exclusive and official construction equipment rental

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01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: partner of the Buffalo Bills. Christop Prasso, thanks for being on.

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01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 1: It's been great. We're talking about you know, how this

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01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 1: thing happened, all the snow removal and stuff's going. Thanks

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01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 1: for making it in. It's a process. There's still haven't

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01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 1: got the We aren't dug out here at the stadium completely,

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01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 1: but it's an ongoing process. Yeah. I just want to

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01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: shout out my friend Zach Baldwin and a lot of

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01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 1: the other construction workers that were called in emergency snow

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01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 1: removal in areas that they usually are not doing any construction.

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01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: Last week was chaotic. It was an amazing effort by

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01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: the Bill's staff, by Squirrel Winter and Company, and a

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01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: lot of Bills and neighbors. But how about this week.

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01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: We have had some of this snow melt, but there's

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01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: been so much effort put forth by a lot of

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01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: people to get the snow out of Orchard Park and

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01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: in the South hounds that were hit so badly, so

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01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: we can I'll return to normal life. I hope everybody's

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01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: in a posture you can enjoy your thanks Giving. Tomorrow,

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01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: Bills at twelve thirty in Detroit. We're gonna thank Eric Woodyard, ESPN,

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01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: NFL Nation Lions reporter for coming on with us giving

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01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: us the lowdown on the Lions. We're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: a show tomorrow, though, We're gonna take the day off

1828
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 1: during the game. Obviously, it's gonna be an awesome day.

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01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Friday, though. We'll have Thurman Thomas

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01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: here on Friday along with Greg Cosell to break down

1831
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. It's gonna be It's gonna be a fun

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01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:26,520
Speaker 1: week to finish off here, and I hope your Thanksgiving

1833
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: as well. Christoph Praso, Steve Tasker here on one Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, everybody, Thanks for the listeners, for

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Speaker 1: sending the tweets. We'll talk to you on Friday.