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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Oh yeah, get at it. Monday Monday,

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Speaker 1: but not just another manic Monday. This one is a

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Speaker 1: himself BC, the beij One, Brian Campbell, know Luke Thomas

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Speaker 1: again today on the flight back from vacation. You deal

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Speaker 2: What's going on? BC? Good to be back on Morning Combat,

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Speaker 1: Great to have you back as well. Obviously I got

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Speaker 1: much love for Luke Thomas. It'll be starting, no conspiracies.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, August twenty second. The kick heard around the

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Speaker 1: uh rashad, how do you even like? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: son's soccer game this fall. All right, Okay, these are

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Speaker 1: direction of the fights. And it went down Saturday, Rashad

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Speaker 1: on topic one. The Rocky story became real right in

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Speaker 1: Look at me now, was it? Thank you, Mikey Morms.

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Speaker 1: So did Edwards do you think in hindsight, you know,

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Speaker 3: There's a minute in there where you just say, you know,

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Speaker 2: Fact that you lost a fight. But Leon didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: sure Husman may have felt that. But Leon didn't give

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Speaker 3: that suffocating pressure made it easier for Leon Edwards to

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I love the the you know, the tweets or

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I know. Leon's a great guy.

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Speaker 3: John was like, dude, what the hell are you doing? Like,

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Speaker 3: this is your childs shot, this is your chance. You

435
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 3: gotta get, you gotta get after it. Wake up, it's

436
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 3: time to go, you gotta go. And then he started

437
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 3: just like to just you know, scream at me and

438
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 3: just really wake me up out of the the funt,

439
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 3: you know, the cloud that I was in and just

440
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 3: watching and observing myself.

441
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,199
Speaker 2: Get my own ass whooped, you know. And once he

442
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 2: woke me up, I was.

443
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 3: Kind of pissed off to the point where I was like,

444
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not going back to the corner

445
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 3: and have him yell at me again. I'm gonna go

446
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: and do something this round. So that third round I

447
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 3: came out and I was ready. I was looking at

448
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: counter and ans soon as he threw something, I was

449
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 3: on it right away. And then I ended up went

450
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,159
Speaker 3: finishing a fight. But it was a corner work that

451
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 3: really got me to just get off my ass and

452
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 3: get out of my head and just you know, turn

453
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Speaker 3: and turn a fight.

454
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Speaker 1: On legend some legendary stuff from Edwards's corner to just

455
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: do exactly what you had you described was done to you.

456
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more in awe of how it all

457
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: came together. It was a movie. I mean, everyone's trying

458
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: to say everything they do is a movie these days

459
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: for the gram right, But this was a freaking movie.

460
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: So let's talk sequels here, Rashad, because you know in

461
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 1: the post fight show for Morning Combat Saturday Night knee

462
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: jerk Reaction given again that Usman had five consecutive title defenses.

463
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: He was you know, Dana already calling him the greatest

464
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 1: Waltz weight of all time, which you know, I mean,

465
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Speaker 1: just me still alive last time I checked. But you know,

466
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Speaker 1: you get my point, Like the like where Usman was

467
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 1: and I think a champion that decorated, and especially with

468
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Speaker 1: an ending that was this sort of you know, holy shit,

469
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Speaker 1: when he had been largely controlling that fight. If anyone

470
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: deserves it, it's Usmann. Right now, I want you to

471
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: know what you believe, what you think, or I want

472
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 1: you to tell me what you think should happen next

473
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: and what you think will when you consider the options

474
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: of an immediate trilogy, potentially in England to take advantage

475
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: of the hotbed audience there, or to other options you

476
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: see shooting out left and right. Maybe Ham's got Yourmaia

477
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: if he gets Pastenay Diaz in a quick matter getting

478
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: right into a title shot or maybe one Jorge Mosfeedal,

479
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't love that idea or shot. What

480
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: should happen, what will happen next for the welterweight title.

481
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Speaker 3: Well, I think tomorrow definitely should get an immediate rematch,

482
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Speaker 3: But you know, for the timing of the immediate rematch

483
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 3: is my biggest concern. I will want Kamara to take

484
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Speaker 3: off at least to the spring in order to love

485
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Speaker 3: himself to just to kind of, you know, let this

486
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: settle in, but not only that allow his body to heal,

487
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 3: and not only that, you know, kind of build up

488
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Speaker 3: some of that neurological strength that.

489
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Speaker 2: That needs to happen.

490
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Speaker 3: After you had to knockout that devastating you know, usman

491
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 3: was out for a while.

492
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 2: And when you take.

493
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: A big concussive blow like that, it's really important to

494
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 3: do the proper rehab to be able to get your beard,

495
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 3: your chin so you're able to take shots and take

496
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: more punishment. Because if you don't have a good way

497
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 3: of resetting your neurological system, then the next time you

498
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: take even a small blow, your body remembers that and

499
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Speaker 3: it shuts down. So if I was Usman, I will

500
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Speaker 3: wait at least until till till the spring to do

501
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 3: the fight. Now that leaves a gap in between time

502
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,959
Speaker 3: because if Diaz and hams Out they fight in September

503
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: and you know it's a quick fight, then Hamza is

504
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: going to be ready to go for December or November,

505
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Speaker 3: November December, and that will put Leon in position to

506
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 3: be ready for the same time. So I could see

507
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: something like the UFC shoeing him Hamza in a position

508
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: to fight Leon Edwards as well to kind of wait

509
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: for Ousman to kind of heal up and get.

510
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Speaker 2: Ready to get to get a shot.

511
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Speaker 3: But you know, it all depends on how how will

512
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: hams Out looks in his fight, you know, with with Diaz,

513
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 3: if it's something that he goes out there and he

514
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 3: looks absolutely you know, scary like he's been looking in

515
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 3: the past, and yeah, I can see him, you know,

516
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 3: moving in for a November December fight. But I do

517
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 3: think that it should be an immediate rematch for Usman.

518
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: But for me, it's the timing that he needed to

519
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 3: take off that might push that back.

520
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Speaker 1: He has been though I don't want to say a

521
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Speaker 1: company man. I think he became a company man through

522
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: his willingness to fight whoever, whenever, and you know he's

523
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: always been consistent. That's why I didn't think there be

524
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Speaker 1: a trap element with this fight, despite what turned out

525
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 1: to be this ending, there is that that discussion if

526
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Speaker 1: if UFC can get a date in the UK and

527
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: can make this be a big thing, and they call Ustmann.

528
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: Knowing what I know of him, you know him better

529
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Speaker 1: than me, But I would think he's going to take

530
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: that challenge and take that opportunity. But I think you're right.

531
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: That was a devastating knockout, like we can't like the

532
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: pictures are floating around of him with the eyes wide open,

533
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: but you know nothing's going on in there. I mean

534
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: that that was that was bad news. I saw Horney

535
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: Moswell'll tweet I guess we're going to England. I mean

536
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: I would get it, but I'd be like forty six

537
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: year old Dan Henderson against businit being level upset. If

538
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: Jorge was rolled back into a title shot in this situation,

539
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: you know, if he had never gotten the second one

540
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: against Usmand, you'd be like, Okay, business is business, there's

541
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: a storyline, but what are we doing here. We can't

542
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: do that, But what about if Nate pulls it up.

543
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: I mean there's some things that can happen here in

544
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Speaker 1: a while.

545
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a lot of things that can still

546
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: happen here, you know, And I'm not totally convinced that

547
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 3: Nate is it's a foregone conclusion between Nate and Hamza.

548
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, Nate is one of those

549
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 3: guys who when he's tested like this and people feel

550
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 3: as if like he don't have a chance, that's when

551
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: you get the nadeas that you really didn't expect and

552
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 3: show that he still has a lot of tread left

553
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 3: on his tires. You know, one of the biggest things

554
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 3: I can say about Nadaz is the fact that you know,

555
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: he still does have a lot of skill left, but

556
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: just the inactivity that has affected him. So if he

557
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 3: can just get around that aspect of it, as far

558
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 3: as you know, implementing some training that kind of mimics

559
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: would he's going to be doing, you know, or get

560
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 3: some good looks and he could be able to go

561
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 3: in there and have a great fight.

562
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Speaker 2: It could change a lot of things.

563
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: But for a guy like Leon Whoo's relatively still unknown

564
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 3: outside of that big moment that he had.

565
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: If you're the UFC, you have a big opportunity to.

566
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: Really grow him and really grow the market in London

567
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 3: once again. So having him fight Usman again in London

568
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: probably would be the most lucrative thing and the most

569
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 3: blockbuster thing they can do as far as pay per

570
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Speaker 3: views concerned. So I think that that would be the

571
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 3: smartest move. But there's a lot of commotion that you know,

572
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 3: losing a belt in the way class has caused, and

573
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of revitalized a lot of belief

574
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: and hope and fighters. So the one seventy pound weight

575
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: class is going to get very interesting again.

576
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Speaker 1: Colby's still lingering as well. There was some crazy online

577
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: videos of his reaction draw dropped. I mean everyone's sharing

578
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: their online reaction video, whether it's Joe Rogan at the desk,

579
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this. People are accusing

580
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: Henry Shudo of jinxing because there was video right before

581
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: the start of round five in the crowd when so

582
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: Hudo taps Ali Lass on the shoulder and it's like

583
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: easy money. I mean, you know, people will try to

584
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: connect things to curses. If we have to blame Triple Cringe.

585
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: We have to blame them.

586
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I mean it's you. You.

587
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: You want to blame somebody because it's just so unbelievable

588
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: what happened. You just don't expect nothing like that to

589
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: ever happen, especially when usman was just doing doing what

590
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: he was just doing so so well.

591
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: So I mean, my my heart goes out to him.

592
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: But you know, one thing that that that I had,

593
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: you know, I stick by, is you got to take

594
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 3: you know, the bitter with the glitter.

595
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta take it.

596
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: You got you gotta be able to to to to

597
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: take it all because at the end of the day,

598
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 3: no matter what the results are, this is why we

599
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 3: do it.

600
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: This is why we.

601
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: Fight, and this is what makes it, you know, be

602
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: what it is when you're a fighter. You got to

603
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 3: go out there and you feel that adrenaline and you're

604
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: riding that emotional roller coaster. This is why you feel

605
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: that because you know, at one moment you can be

606
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: the hammer and then the next moment you can be

607
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 3: the nail and and and to know which one you're

608
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: gonna be that's the fun.

609
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Speaker 1: I mean, I had I had some k viewers DM

610
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: me and show me their betting slips of of uh

611
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, lock tight parlays they had that involved a

612
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: Nuseman victory that would have you know, netted them you know,

613
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: six digits. I mean, it netted them some legitimate cashola

614
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: that fell to the wayside with that kick herd around

615
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: the world. But that's the that's the crazy game we're in.

616
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: And and you know, finally I'll circle back to it.

617
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: You know, we were wrong, man, I mean I remember

618
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: Tom Aspinall going down with that injury. We're like, so

619
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: so much for the UK title hopes right now, and

620
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: people are like, well, Leon's also going to get a fight.

621
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Speaker 1: We're like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I gotta

622
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: take all that back and say, you know, sometimes BC

623
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: don't know shit, you know, I mean, uh yeah, I

624
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: did predict and gone who was going to wrestle against

625
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: gon Okay? I predicted who Smile will get a fourth

626
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: round submission? And people are like, BC, man, you you

627
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: are just the casual of casuals, dude. You remember the

628
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: end of the third round when he was, you know,

629
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: nearly putting the choke on a lifeless Edwards. It looking

630
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: like it's going one way. It went the other way.

631
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Speaker 1: Shout out to Rocky, what a frickin' story, what a night.

632
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Speaker 1: Will never forget topic number two on this Monday, though,

633
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna hit up the rest of the big headlines

634
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: from USC two seventy eight, and as wild as this

635
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: main event finish was, it had to be helped by

636
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: the momentum from that wild ass comine. I don't like.

637
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: There's just not ways to describe what the hell we want.

638
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: Luke Rockhold, who's now retired. The former middleweight champion, went

639
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: out in a blaze of glory against Paula Costa that

640
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: I can only compare to like Kevin Costner's character in

641
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: the nineties movie ten Cuff, where it's like, no, he

642
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: didn't win, but he won. He won in many different ways.

643
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: Rock Hold always respected in the skill set, but people

644
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: love to hate this guy right for a lot of reasons.

645
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: He comes out of here, I mean just beloved for

646
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 1: the insane amount of heart, blood, sweat, and tears he showed. Rashad,

647
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: I have never seen a fighter that exhausted after a

648
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: single round. In round two, he's bending over in the

649
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Speaker 1: middle of the fight with his hands on his knees

650
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: and to see somebody so dangerously desperately and recklessly dialing

651
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: up loaded strikes and then landing them in particularly round three,

652
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: which is among the most batshit five minutes of theater

653
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: you could ever cook up for elite level Mma Coasta

654
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: takes home the decision. It was deserved, But this was

655
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: almost the the wackiest ending we ever could have cooked

656
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: up until the main event of Who's pott Edwards two?

657
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: When you look at this, even though he lost, rock

658
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: Hold kind of wins this right rashada and he's just

659
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: going out. I don't want to say on top, but

660
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: all we're talking about now is the balls of Luke

661
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: rock Hold. I didn't think he had it in number shot.

662
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: I really didn't.

663
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: You know, when Luke rock Hole came out, he came

664
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: out to a song and mortal technique the Point and Overturn,

665
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: And that song stuck out to me because that's the

666
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: same song I came out to when I thought Chucklerdale.

667
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: So I knew what his mindset was when he came out.

668
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: I knew he was on the mindset of he burned

669
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: the boats.

670
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure if everybody knows of burning the

671
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: boats mean or what it kind of alludes to.

672
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: But you know, there is this army general and he

673
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: brought his people. They came in boats and they were

674
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: going to go to war.

675
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: And when they got there, they learned they were out

676
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 3: number so when they were sleeping, they got out. They

677
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: were all sleeping on shore and the army captain had

678
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: someone burn all the boats, so there was no going back,

679
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: so they had to fight.

680
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's from I looked it up. It's from Art

681
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: of War with sun Zoo.

682
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: Yes.

683
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: Yes, so he burned the boats and sometimes you got

684
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: to burn the boats because there is no going back.

685
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: There is no going back.

686
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: Your life is forever going to be changed after this moment.

687
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: And for him to go out there and to say,

688
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: you know what, no matter what happens, I'm going out

689
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: on my shield, it takes a lot of balls because

690
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: a lot of times when you're out of there, when

691
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: you're out there and you have that intent and you

692
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: get in your face beat there, you start thinking like, yo, you.

693
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: Know what, let me just stop because I'm gonna quit

694
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: and retire anyways. But I knew at weighing, when I

695
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: talked to.

696
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: Luke Rockole, he was just burning up, like he was

697
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: just he was super geeked, almost as if like he

698
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: was just on something.

699
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: But that was just him riding at adrenaline.

700
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 3: Like if you've seen him at the weighings, like he

701
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: was pacing back and forth, he was like salivating at

702
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: the mouth, and he was talking in tongues like I'm

703
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: gonna kill this dude, you know. So you knew that

704
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: something was different about Luke, but I kind of felt

705
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: like something was different about Luke going into this fight

706
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 3: all along, just listening to.

707
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: His interviews, like he was just raw the whole week.

708
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was slinging trash talk at Costa, even to

709
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: levels where it was like abrasive, you know, and fighter

710
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: pay honest sort of download that he did that had

711
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: Dana against him. My favorite part of this fight in

712
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: many ways, and we'll get into have you seen the

713
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: shit shortly we'll be able to look at some of

714
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: these crazy moments. But Dana's postfight press conference after when

715
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: he was like, look, we had our ups and downs

716
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: this week, but I'm never going to say another bad

717
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: word again about Luke Grocold. After this, it was almost

718
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: like Dana giving him carte blanche for the rest of

719
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: his life, because that's you know, that's the quickest way

720
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: to Dana's heart, this type of nomadic, barbaric performance. But

721
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: what Dana said in particular, he was like people like us,

722
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: And this is Dana finally aligning himself with the scumbag

723
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: of media and saying, we have no idea what those

724
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: two men had to do to make that fight happen

725
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: and to finish that fight. Rashad again, I've never seen

726
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: a fighter as exhausted after one round who went on

727
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: to have moments in the fight like rock Hole did.

728
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: How would you describe how deep he actually did dig

729
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: within himself to pour that out, Because he's known for

730
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: in the second half of his career, great fighter. But

731
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: if you clock him clean, the fight's gonna be over.

732
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: And this went past stamina iron Will. I mean he

733
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: was dealing with I mean he was fine. He was

734
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: taking one of those scoopers inside the protein pack and

735
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: just going deep for shot. Hold on, I don't know

736
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: if this is legal. I mean, just going deep and

737
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: pouring that shit out on top of coast. I mean, dude, like,

738
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: that's like they got me pinned down. My family's about

739
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: to die, and the only way I can I can

740
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: get there is by getting you know, is by crawling

741
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: on my stomach after the plane crash to get to

742
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: the hot I mean, this is some of the most insane, manly,

743
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: courageous shit I've ever seen. I didn't think it was

744
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: physically possible for Shot. How did he do that?

745
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: I know what I didn't either, especially Luke.

746
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: You know, Luke's kind of a pretty boy, and you know,

747
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: knowing Luke outside of fighting, you wouldn't think that, you know,

748
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: the balls that he had, he would just go out

749
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: there and fight like that. But you know, it was

750
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: truly him saying goodbye to the sport, and he was

751
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: trying to say that bye to the sport on his terms.

752
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: So he was willing to go in there and fight

753
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: to death until he had really nothing left to give.

754
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: And I mean, I don't want to make.

755
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 3: It seem like, you know, he was, you know, kind

756
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: of suicidal, but at the same time, his mindset was

757
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: going to the place where it's like, you know what,

758
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: I don't care how I come out after this.

759
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: And when you go that deep, you have to not care.

760
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: You have to not care.

761
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: You know, if if you're going to have a scar

762
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: that you know that that stays on your face.

763
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: For the rest of your night.

764
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 3: At this at that moment, you're living in a moment

765
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: so much that nothing exists outside of that moment. And

766
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 3: you can tell Luke was in that presence of mind

767
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: where nothing exists outside that moment, because even when you

768
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: know he was down and out and getting his butt kick,

769
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 3: he'd throw an overhand right and be like what what

770
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: and just and like hearing him just like tog shit

771
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: the whole time and getting pounded was just like this dude, Like,

772
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: if you're Costan, you gotta be like, dude, what I

773
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: got to do to get you out of here?

774
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: Because he just he just kept hanging on.

775
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: It's it's it's incredible, and I'm glad he was able

776
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: to give that moment forget us in our entertainment level,

777
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: or forget Dana White, for himself, because he's had injuries,

778
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: he's had doubt. I mean, didn't he almost have leg amputation.

779
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean he's had like some some shit, and he's

780
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: had also spectacular losses in moments where we thought he

781
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: might be back and try and afford something. So to

782
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: see him have that moment, but then to retire on

783
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: his own terms and just be like fuck, I'm too

784
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: old for this. I mean, we all can relate to that.

785
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: It was great, it was great, Oh my god. I mean,

786
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 1: and then like, he's not known for that, so you

787
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: you can't overemphasize how dangerous that third round could have

788
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: been for him, not just you know, how close he

789
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: was a pure exhaustion, but when you're f that recklessly,

790
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: you could just get caught with the type of I mean,

791
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: you can just get caught with the type that you

792
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: don't recover like you know, you don't you know, mentally

793
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: physically recover from. He got through it. So when we

794
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: flip the script of Paulo Costa, who again it was

795
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: the oddust thirty to twenty seven across the board fight

796
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: you ever saw. Do we take anything away from Costa

797
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: and how much he was getting lit up with those

798
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, wounded animals, strikes from rock cold or was

799
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: it so batshit crazy that you know, survived by any

800
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: means necessary.

801
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: No, I don't take anything away from Costa for that

802
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: because it was a fight and and and by that,

803
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: I mean it's like when you fight versus you know,

804
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: versus you know how it typically plays out like in

805
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: a fight you fight with more emotion. You know, when

806
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: when you're when you're not fighting, you it's more of

807
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: a technical aspect.

808
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: Of it, you know, and you and you, and it's

809
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: all about x's and o's.

810
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: But when you're fighting, it's like, I'm gonna throw a

811
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: hit and you with that shot and that shot hurting

812
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: it pissed me off, and without even trying to be calculated,

813
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna hurtle something back.

814
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: We fighting right there. You know, almost technique goes out

815
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: of the window.

816
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: When it's a fight, and that's where that's where the

817
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 3: vulnerability comes. And that's where you can take a fighter

818
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: who's a better fighter and make them a less of

819
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: a fighter because he's fighting with that emotion and not

820
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: seeing costs of fight with that emotion. And that's that's

821
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: a dangerous place to fight from because that's where you

822
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: get exhausted. That's where you are less calculated, and that's

823
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 3: where you can get caught. But fighting at that emotional level,

824
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: it really makes fans like drawn to you because they

825
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: can see the heart that you're putting into it and

826
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: you kind of bear your soul when you put your

827
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: when you just go out there and you fight like that.

828
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: And look to be very fair. There are a lot

829
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: of people who believe that that art form of the

830
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: emotional fight is lost at the highest professional level in

831
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: MMA today. And you hear like you don't hear it

832
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: as much because the UFC has gotten to such a

833
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: level that it's so mainstream that there's so much attention

834
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: on it. But Luke Thomaso says it right. I mean,

835
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: there are like that generation of hardcore fans in the

836
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: mid to late early you know, two thousand, the Oughts

837
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: two thousand and five to twenty ten that run. A

838
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: lot of those fans are no longer MMA fans, and

839
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: they were as diehard as ever back then. And I

840
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: think when you go back and watch those fights, those fights,

841
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: even though you're seeing the evolution of skill in front

842
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: of your eyes, they're still fights. Even the guys who

843
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: are the skill technicians still have to fight through this

844
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: emotional barrage of craziness that has been homogenized. Now that

845
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: everyone is a complete, well rounded mixed martial artist and

846
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: you know everyone's technical. That when we get neat Land

847
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: where against oma Onama and that wild third round, when

848
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: we get moments like this, it is a reminder for

849
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: a lot of us, especially as older fans, the reason

850
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: why we got into this in the first place. And

851
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: it's not just, you know, a lust for violence or

852
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: a love for combat style versus combat style. It's that

853
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing on this screen reminds me of like

854
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: fights I've seen in the schoolyard or in the bar,

855
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that whole type of

856
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: just like emotion coming in this had that. Some of

857
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: Paula Cussa's biggest fights have had that. But do you

858
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: believe Costa's fully back, meaning the same fighter who built

859
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: that road to the title opportunity against Adasania. Yeah, he's

860
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: still gonna be wild and he's an offensive force, but

861
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: I think this week I saw him get back in

862
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: the shape he needed and even mentally rashad. He was

863
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: taking all the things people say bad about him and

864
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: making jokes about it. He had the bottle of the

865
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: secret sauce and secret juice whatever. It was like. I

866
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: saw a different Coasta and I kind of liked it.

867
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: Do you think that's good enough to put him back

868
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: now into this title mix and believe he can make

869
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: another run?

870
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: I believe so, you know, because he fought with that

871
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: emotion and when you fight that emotion, it makes you tired.

872
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: And Coasa's biggest thing, and one of my biggest knock

873
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: on Costa was the fact that he gases and you

874
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: can gass him out and all you have to do

875
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: is whether the early storm, but then you have a

876
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: different cost of the second and third round. But you know,

877
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 3: he shattered that. You know, I think that he fought

878
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 3: really well. He you know, he fought, you know, economically

879
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: when he needs to at times. He sprinting when he

880
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: needs to at times, but either whether he was sprinting

881
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: or his fighting economically, he wasn't overly gas afterwards. And

882
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,439
Speaker 3: you know, my favorite moment was was after the fight

883
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 3: was over and he was doing an interview and he

884
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: made a comment and then and then he had he

885
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 3: said a phrase and then the crowd said the phrase

886
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 3: back to him, and that in that moment, it showed

887
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: me that the fans get him and he's figured it

888
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: out on a fan level, He's figured out how to

889
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: market himself. He's figured out how to be that heel

890
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 3: but also walk that line where he's also a fan

891
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 3: favorite as well too, because it's one thing to be

892
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: a heel and just be completely you know, despised and

893
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: hated by everybody and no one cheers for you, but

894
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: it's another thing to be that heel that people love,

895
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: and that's what Costa definitely is.

896
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: Right now, I would agree with that. And you know,

897
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: as long as he's making weight and he's physically and

898
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: mentally healthy, he's always going to be a bit of

899
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: a wild card because he does swing big and sometimes

900
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: his defense can get LAPSI but I did see enough

901
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: to know he's still got at least going to be

902
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: a force. Maybe not as much as I thought he

903
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: was going to be caveman from here on out, but

904
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think there is a sly

905
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: fox under there, and this was a comeback fight to

906
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: some degree to snap the losing skid. Ah Rashad, let's

907
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: keep it going here on this card. On paper, maybe

908
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: the best fight of the card and the deepest division

909
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: in the sport at bantam weight, and it was Morob

910
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: Devash Wheeley extending that win streak to the next level

911
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: over three rounds, taking a decision from Josey Aldo. There's

912
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: some dispute of whether the third round takedown was an

913
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: official takedown or not. Some people are tweeting at me

914
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: and say, no, he was zero for sixteen either way,

915
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: Rashad that constant, constant pressure of the takedown and some

916
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: of the wild strike attempts, that's guest tank Morob, that's

917
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: what he does. How impressive do you think was this win?

918
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: Given given where Josie although was at Yeah, he's thirty five,

919
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: but he came in here ready to get back into

920
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: a title fight.

921
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: I think it's very impressive.

922
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, to fight somebody like jose Although

923
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 3: who is just you know, he is so so amazing

924
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: in so many different ways. And I say that because

925
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: as you age as a fighter, it's so hard to

926
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 3: recreate the game of competition so that you stay mentally,

927
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 3: you know, in it where you're striving and constantly trying

928
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 3: to reach the top. And once you've climbed a mountain

929
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: a few times and became champion and stuff like that,

930
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: it's really hard to recalibrate your mindset to do it

931
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: again after you fail time and time again. And to

932
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: be where he is right now, to be getting better

933
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 3: as it seems as he's getting older, to be getting stronger,

934
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: to still be able to hang in there cardio wise

935
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: with these younger fighters is absolutely amazing. And now you

936
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: take a fighter who still has the same strength, you know,

937
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: same skill set he's did when he'll still sharp, but

938
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: then you put the experience behind it, You're putting you're

939
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: fighting a very well rounded fighter, but not only that,

940
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: a very smart, cerebral fighter. So that's what the Morob

941
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: had to go against and to be able to defeat him.

942
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: That's a huge cap in your feather. Because watching Jose

943
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 3: all though live and watching that fight, I was just

944
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: so impressed with just the speed, the striking conversation that

945
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: he was able to have, the angles that he was

946
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: able to get at.

947
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I was just the takedown defense.

948
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 3: I was so impressed with Jose and for Morob to

949
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: beat him, I was just like, Wow, Okay, this guy

950
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 3: is a real deal.

951
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so bittersweet right now. Because Jose came

952
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: in in insane shape, he came in in great form.

953
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: I thought his defense and his defensive strategy in his

954
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: ability to stuff the takedowns was like a ten out

955
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: of ten. But Rashad, he's also thirty five cutting down

956
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: in weight, and I think this was a fight where

957
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: you know, there's a great reaction video by the way

958
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: out there of him and his wife consoling him in

959
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: the locker room afterwards. His head is in his hands.

960
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: He has to believe and you can tell me if

961
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Given the constant pressure of Morob that because

962
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: he was not offensive enough, he kind of left that

963
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: back door open. He didn't have an argument for the

964
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: decision in his way, and he looked in great form.

965
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: He fought very well, but the lake strikes and the

966
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: body punches that were there for Jose in round one,

967
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: he just wasn't trying in rounds two and three. It

968
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: was almost as if he knew he had a certain

969
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: amount of money to spend in this fight, if you will,

970
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: and he put all that money into defense and to

971
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, keeping himself in positions where he could try

972
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: to mount some offense. But the offense never came. So

973
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: do you look at this as a byproduct of Morob's

974
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: never ending pressure, or maybe for the great veteran, the

975
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: King of Heo, the just badass of badasses. And by

976
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: the way that Salt Lake City crowd just showering him

977
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: with love Gate gave me legit goosebumps. Did he kind

978
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: of mess up a little bit in the strategy here

979
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: for what he should have been able to do to

980
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: give himself a fighting chance.

981
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he did.

982
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: You know, I felt that as if, like in the

983
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 3: first round, he was doing really good job of pumping

984
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: that jab out there really fast and really you know,

985
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: making Marob has to think twice before he was able

986
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: to just come in with that kind of pressure. But

987
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: then he's really got out of just that throwing a

988
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 3: jab and really looking like he was going to throw anything,

989
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: and started just kind of riding the edge of the cage.

990
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: And I feel like that was what.

991
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: The judges seen when it came just to octagon pressure

992
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: and control that Marob had. And then also you know,

993
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: he found you know himself, you know, striking at short distance,

994
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: meaning the fact that when you're inside of that black line,

995
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: you don't have much room to strike, You don't have

996
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: much room to do anything because all all your opponent

997
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: has to do is throw one strike, one kick, or

998
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: one attempt or one fake and the next thing, you know,

999
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: they can clench you and put you against a cage

1000
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 3: and just jam up the action for the next.

1001
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: You know, thirty minutes, thirty seconds to a minute, you know,

1002
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: so it really.

1003
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: Kind of started to shape in that fight for Jose,

1004
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: But if you know, he could have got him his

1005
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 3: back back to the center of the got after gun,

1006
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: he really could have started getting the offense going again.

1007
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: But my biggest thing with Jose is listen, his biggest

1008
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: weapon was his kicks. You no matter who he was

1009
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: going against, he would always throw these kicks, and those

1010
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 3: kicks will take a lot out of the fighter and

1011
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 3: they would completely, you know.

1012
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 2: Destroy everything they can have they have far as.

1013
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: Movement is concerned, and he hasn't been going to that

1014
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: for a long time, not consistently, and I feel like

1015
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest problems in his game. His

1016
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: boxing looked great, he looked very sharp with his boxing,

1017
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: but he's missing an other element, which is his kicks.

1018
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, for a guy that age with that, I

1019
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: mean he's bricked up. Rashad, I don't know if he

1020
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: has enough stamina to beat these young guys in a

1021
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: three or five round track meet. Now, that three fight

1022
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: win streak to get him to this point was inspiring,

1023
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: but it's going to get to a point where he's

1024
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: got to take more chances, and then that opens him

1025
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: up to either potential exhaustion, to getting taken down, to

1026
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: getting clipped. Man. He was ready, he was ready for

1027
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: his moment, but Morob took it. Now, let me spin

1028
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: it back on Devash Willy. I believe it's eight straight

1029
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: wins now, damn. The question, though, that we wanted answered

1030
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: by Morob was if Jose was able to suppress the takedown,

1031
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: which he was time and time again, could Morob make

1032
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: the leap on the striking level to have the type

1033
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: of success where we could talk about him as a

1034
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: legitimate title contender. I'm not sure that was a question

1035
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: that was ultimately fully answered. How do you feel about

1036
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: is Morob well rounded enough to take on the killers

1037
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: that we have here at one thirty five at the

1038
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: very top.

1039
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: I think as well rounded enough.

1040
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: And I say that because of the fact that you know,

1041
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 3: with a guy like Jolie, although he was still able

1042
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: to go from A to B without taking too much

1043
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 3: damage in between EDDIEB meaning from the outside to the

1044
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: inside without taking too much damage and whatever he had

1045
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: to do to.

1046
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 2: Close the distance.

1047
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't have really clean shots, but he

1048
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: had the perfect kind of transitional shots that allowed him

1049
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: to get into the position that he needed to be in.

1050
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: He threw a lot of big overhands, which is, you know,

1051
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 3: one of those punches that clears the way because either

1052
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 3: your opponent gets hit by it or he moves out

1053
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: of the way. And if he moves out of.

1054
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: Where he gets hit by it, it does enough action for.

1055
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: If you as a wrestler that's bringing it for pressure

1056
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 3: to get to the position that you need to be

1057
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: in order to be close enough to work your game,

1058
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 3: which is a close game.

1059
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: So I think he has.

1060
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 3: Enough of the transitional space from a striking to get

1061
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: to his position, which is which is striking, I.

1062
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: Mean, which is grappling.

1063
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: But you know, with the guys who are have a

1064
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 3: lot better movement than Jose, I think that it might

1065
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 3: be for a problem, might be a problem for him

1066
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: if they can you know, keep him on his feet

1067
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: and at the same time getting angles and strike.

1068
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean whether whether he impressed me enough, whether

1069
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: striking or not, you made great points. He used it effectively,

1070
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: even where there's takedowns being shut down, to control and

1071
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: win this fight. And this is no small victory. So

1072
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: Rashad I wanted to sort of ask you where this

1073
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: puts Morob in the title picture. It's not a title

1074
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: shot next where what would be the best opponent? But

1075
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: this is muddled a bit by the aftermath of this fight,

1076
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: in the reality that he's teammates with the champion, Al

1077
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: Jamaine Sterling. And there's probably no better person to ask

1078
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: than you, who famously had the on again, off again

1079
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: friendship with John Jones that led to that big title fight.

1080
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 1: In the breakup in camp, when you saw Morob leave

1081
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: no doubt, no stone unturned, I don't ask me again.

1082
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: I will not fight my brother, my teammate, And you

1083
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: hear him so honestly say, I'm only where I'm at

1084
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: as a professional because of the love and brotherhood of

1085
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: Al Joe making me work and helping me and teach me.

1086
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: Is this the right play for Morob given how close

1087
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: they are to just say it's not happening, guys, but

1088
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep fighting whoever they put in front of me.

1089
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 3: You know, there's some times in life, man, it's the

1090
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: morality of a situation that means more than than the

1091
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: then your own personal growth because your own personal growth, uh,

1092
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 3: you know, it may be disguised in a sense where

1093
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: you feel as if you have the best personal growth

1094
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: by taking the opportunity to do the fight. But the

1095
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: the the more personal growth is in the fact that

1096
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: not take the fight because.

1097
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: It proves that you know, you know that that you

1098
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: were real about about.

1099
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: Coming into the fold, and the fact that you respect

1100
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: the people who were there before you, but it shows

1101
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: that you're not greedy. And the fact that you know

1102
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 3: he's he's straight up and he's you know, willing to

1103
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: to just allow his teammate to be champion without without

1104
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: challenging for the belt. That's that that that right there

1105
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: is is is truly what it's about to be a

1106
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: mixed martial artist in the fact that you know being

1107
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 3: in the team setting, but you know, at the same time,

1108
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 3: you only got so much time in this game. You know,

1109
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 3: you only got so much time in this game. So

1110
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: it's a tough situation to be in. And I give

1111
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: him respect for his take on it. But if the

1112
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 3: main goal of having this opportunity to fight it's to

1113
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: get as far as you can down the road before

1114
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: the proverbial car runs out of gas, then you know

1115
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: he might have to take that fight because you know,

1116
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: you you make a whole different pay once you have

1117
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 3: become a champion.

1118
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 2: Once you've become ment to the champion. You know, your

1119
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: pay scale is forever.

1120
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 3: Going to be different, which changes your life, which is,

1121
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 3: you know, helps feed your family and whatever whatnot. So

1122
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 3: it's more to the whole equation than that. And the

1123
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 3: fact that he's not taking a fight. It shows that he's,

1124
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 3: you know, morally just a good dude.

1125
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: But it's tough man.

1126
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's levels to this moral good dude thing,

1127
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: which seen Daniel Cormier leave the division not to mess

1128
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: with King Velaska as his friend and training buddy. I

1129
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: think this conversation changes if al Jo is able to

1130
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: get through the gauntlet, which is TJ. Dillshaw next, the

1131
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: potential of fighting the winner of O'Malley Yan, the potential

1132
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: of fighting the winner of San Jagan Yang. I mean

1133
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: this a song. You don't excuse me. This is as

1134
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,959
Speaker 1: deep a division. It's an easy nice thing to say

1135
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: now knowing that this this title could go hot potato.

1136
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 1: But a year and a half from now, when Morob's

1137
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: thirty two, you know, I think you're right. I think

1138
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: that the situation, if al Jo puts together a rain

1139
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: would have to be revisited. Right now, you're actually seeing

1140
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: Aljo in his corner. That shows you how close they are.

1141
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: What do you think is a right fight for Morob?

1142
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: When I look at the top ten, kind of like

1143
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: Cheeto Vera coming off a huge win going against him,

1144
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: Is that the right fight for both of them? In

1145
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: your eyes?

1146
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Cheato would be a great fight

1147
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: for him.

1148
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: And I mean I feel like, you know, Cheeto looked

1149
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: amazing in his last fight and really, you know, got

1150
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 3: people talking about him and to fight somebody that would

1151
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 3: be would be another great fight because Morob is gonna

1152
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 3: bring it on his end. So yeah, I think that'd

1153
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: be another great match up, another blockbuster, another main event

1154
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: for both of those guys. So I think one thirty

1155
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: five is it's one of my favorite weight classes. You know,

1156
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: it's so deep and it's just got so much talent,

1157
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 3: and these little guys are really changing the way we

1158
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: see uh mixed martial.

1159
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: Arts and a light of weight class.

1160
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: You know, these guys are super competitive and they're fun

1161
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: to watch, you know, they're they're they're super fun to watch.

1162
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 3: So I mean, no matter who's at the top at

1163
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: one thirty five, you know it's gonna.

1164
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: Be a lot of good action.

1165
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you got a window to fight for a

1166
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: title and you don't take it, it may go away.

1167
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: We may have to go away. Center. Henry Sahudo could

1168
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: parachute into this division again. There's a lot that we

1169
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you.

1170
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: Well, Henry Shudo is big parachuting. He's getting ready to fight. Man,

1171
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 3: he's gonna He's gonna come back and fight. I've seen

1172
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 3: Henry at the fights and he looked like he was

1173
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 3: ready to fight. He looked like he was gonna fight shape,

1174
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 3: and you know he's uh.

1175
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: I think he's getting ready for something.

1176
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: Uh. Josie, although thirty five, just just the man, I mean,

1177
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: just just the freaking man. We all love and respect him.

1178
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: He's still really freaking good. I mean, what does he do?

1179
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: Take take big fights against other old names, move and wait?

1180
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: What do you what do you see as the future

1181
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: heir for the king?

1182
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. I don't.

1183
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to write as obituary because you know,

1184
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 3: the fight that I seen on Saturday didn't necessarily spell

1185
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 3: the end to me. You know, I honestly I felt

1186
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: as if, like I felt that in my opinion, I

1187
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: thought that Jose won that fight on just you know,

1188
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 3: the fact that he was able to stop stuff to

1189
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: take downs and he was able to land in cleaner shots,

1190
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 3: and you know, the pressure was a problem.

1191
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: But I felt as if, like you know, he handled

1192
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: it pretty well.

1193
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 3: So I don't think that that fight, to me was

1194
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: all telling on the fact that he needs to only

1195
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: take blockbuster fights against you know, big name fighters. I

1196
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 3: feel I still think that he does, you know, present

1197
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 3: some problems to his weight class. Now it's just a

1198
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: matter of, you know, does he still believe it. Does

1199
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 3: he still want to continue to chase the rabbit and

1200
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: continue to you know, see if something can happen and

1201
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 3: he can fight through another loss and get himself back

1202
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 3: on path to you know, get a potential title shot.

1203
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: So but but I feel like skill wise, I don't

1204
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 3: feel like I've seen a slippage in his game yet.

1205
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: No, he wasn't getting hurt. I mean two of the

1206
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: three judges had it twenty nine twenty eight morobs. So

1207
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: it shows you how close Jose may have actually been

1208
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: with maybe one more surge here to taking this fight

1209
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: still on the level. I'd love for him to do

1210
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: anything he wants to do moving forward. Rachelle quickly in

1211
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,479
Speaker 1: that crowd talked up on the broadcast the whole time.

1212
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: Not a usual spot there in Utah that the UFC

1213
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: goes to. Was it a great crowd in your eyes? Oh?

1214
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 3: Man, the crowd was absolutely phenomenal. Man, that that crowd

1215
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 3: was super loud. They have showed up pretty early and

1216
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: they were into it. Man, they were into it. They

1217
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 3: was just from the first fight. They just really just

1218
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 3: you know, gave the fighters just you know, a huge,

1219
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 3: huge adrenaline push when he went out there.

1220
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: I know they love Karl Malone and multiple wives in

1221
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: those areas. I didn't know they love on that level.

1222
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: A lot of lives to close Rashad. The prelim featured

1223
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: about was heavyweight Alexander Romanov looking to keep that unbeaten

1224
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: run going. But he did run into marching Tay Burrow

1225
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: and I gotta bend the knee and say I was wrong.

1226
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Bronsteader said, this could really be the tough fight

1227
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: that could catch Romanov on this growth although he dominated

1228
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: the first round. How do you sort of gauge this

1229
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: performance to Romanov and what he may need to need

1230
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: to do to fix it to get back on track.

1231
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: Well, I mean we kind of got a peak of

1232
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: Romanov and what his weakness was. I think it was

1233
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: maybe three fights ago. I forget the exact fighter he

1234
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 3: was fighting, but it was one where he got completely gassed.

1235
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 3: And we've seen a lot of that in this fight.

1236
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 3: And I think, you know the first round with Romanov,

1237
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 3: you know he's doing a lot of big moving and

1238
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: posing his rustling. He has great wrestling, he has great skill.

1239
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 3: He needs a strong guy. But when you're expending that

1240
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: kind of strength and you have a guy as stubborn

1241
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: as Taibor wh who's not going for it, you know

1242
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 3: you need to pack a lunch, and you need to

1243
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: also find different ways of controlling grappling situations without expending

1244
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: so much intert energy.

1245
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: And by that I mean this, there's a whole wall.

1246
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 3: And brawl technique that no one did better than Randy contol.

1247
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: Randy Contour can melt away rounds of the fight just

1248
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: by being able to control the guy against the cage. Now,

1249
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 3: the cage and using a cage is very inagur analogous

1250
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: to using the ground because you're able to force your

1251
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 3: opponent against something flat and be able to work your

1252
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 3: magic from there, and they have to work their way

1253
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 3: to get off it.

1254
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: So I feel as if like Romanov needs to find.

1255
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: Another way to impose rustling besides using these big energy

1256
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 3: you know, taking techniques in order to control his opponent.

1257
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 3: I feel like and also, you know, in in Salt

1258
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 3: Lake City, the altitude was.

1259
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: Given a lot of fighters problems.

1260
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of fighters problem And I think

1261
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 3: that's another aspect that a lot of fighters didn't truly anticipate,

1262
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 3: you know, because you it's like when you go to

1263
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 3: Denver and you go to places that you know that

1264
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: that are typically known for a high elevation, you know,

1265
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 3: you know to kind of be ready for that mentally.

1266
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: But when you go to places like you know, Albuquerque,

1267
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 3: New Mexico or Salt Lake City, you know their high altitude,

1268
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 3: and they don't.

1269
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: Necessarily get the hype for being high altitude. And sometimes

1270
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: you go there and you get a surprise.

1271
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 3: And it looked as if like a lot of fighters

1272
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 3: were surprised with just how they're feeling, and Romanov was

1273
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 3: one of them.

1274
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: But I mean marking with Josie Aldough like we're like, hey, man,

1275
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: pull the trigger. He may have been doing everything he

1276
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: had at that elevation to keep that fight in control.

1277
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I mean but I've seen it time and

1278
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: time again throughout the night fighters were just fading and fading.

1279
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 3: But you know, you know Marchen, you know, he with

1280
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: he withstood that first round and then you start putting

1281
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 3: together a solid game plan of just simplicity, you know,

1282
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 3: ones and twos and sprawls, ones and twos and sprawls,

1283
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: and by the set end of the second and third round,

1284
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 3: he had a dang Romanov who was just who was struggling,

1285
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: you know, to just kind of do anything that he

1286
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 3: was doing remotely closer he in the first round. So

1287
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 3: Romanov just has to fix his gas ink man.

1288
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the fight you were mentioning for

1289
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: Romov was Wan of Spino, where ended up being a

1290
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: technical decision split decision in the third round when Romanov

1291
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: got need to the groin and couldn't continue. And you know,

1292
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: he barely pulled that out twenty nine to twenty eight

1293
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: on two scorecards. So if you can fix that, he

1294
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: could be potentially dominant. But you know, shout out to Taibura.

1295
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: He was. He was stingy and just about every category

1296
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: and tough enough to withstand the damage and just outlast him.

1297
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: A big win for him. All right, Rashall, we're gonna

1298
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: get back into MMA with some PFL and some BKFC

1299
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: MMA crossover in topic five. But let's go to topic three.

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01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: Arguably the biggest fight of the weekend in terms of

1301
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: stakes and attention, although that kick from Edwards certainly blew

1302
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: up social media to levels we didn't imagine. It was

1303
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: Alexander Usick and Anthony Joshua Part two from Jetta Saudi Arabia.

1304
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: Three of four heavyweight titles at stake. This was the

1305
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: contractual mandatory rematch because look, you fight somebody on AJ

1306
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: star level you're typically in boxing, gonna have to beat

1307
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: them twice, Rashad. The stakes the storylines were a bit

1308
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: different in this one because AJ double down brought a

1309
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: new trainer, Robert Garcia. You saw him adapt a bit,

1310
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: go more to the body, change his stance, and Usik

1311
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: legitimately coming off the front lines of war to put

1312
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: his flag on his back and come in with an

1313
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: intensity that I don't think I've seen in him before.

1314
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: It didn't turn into the theatrics I thought we might see,

1315
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, potential of both guys going down ending in

1316
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: a knockout. This was a boxing match. It was highly technical,

1317
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: it was fun, it was drama at times, but it

1318
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: was more of the same from the first fight it

1319
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: goes down this time. There was a split decision as

1320
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: one judge, Connecticut's on Glenn Feldman giving seven rounds to

1321
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua, which certainly debatable. I had an eight to

1322
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: four in favor of Usik. He did Usik things out there, Rashad.

1323
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, what was your biggest

1324
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: takeaway from watching this rematch?

1325
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, shat Usk did a tremendous job,

1326
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 3: you know, putting your people, uh the Ukraine people, their

1327
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: plight on his back and and really finding a way

1328
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 3: to work through all of that and go out.

1329
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 2: There and have a great performance. You know.

1330
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: I thought that Usik was very sharp with his combination striking.

1331
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 3: His jab was really good and it gave you know,

1332
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 3: Joshua a lot of problems because he would change up

1333
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 3: the angle of the jab up jab'. You know, he

1334
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 3: was very crafted the way he was switching at jaba

1335
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: and I feel like, you know, the fight was getting

1336
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 3: away from Anthony Joshua at the gate because for one,

1337
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 3: he's it was it was a bad ed I think

1338
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 3: game plan. If the game plan was to go in

1339
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 3: there and box with the boxer. You know Anthony Joshua,

1340
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 3: you know, he's a bigger guy, and as a bigger,

1341
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: stronger guy, he needed to make the fight like he

1342
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 3: made the fight from like from the seventh round on

1343
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 3: where he got the referee more involved.

1344
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 2: Listen, you got a referee in there, Lean on this dude,

1345
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: lean on him.

1346
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 3: Let the referee get his shirt all sweaty and wet

1347
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 3: and full of blood, keeping you guys apart.

1348
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: But lean on him.

1349
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 3: And whenever, whenever Anthony Joshua did lean on him, You've

1350
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: seen how tired Usik was, and that's where Anthony Joshua

1351
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 3: was able to land those big shots. You're not gonna

1352
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: you're not gonna beat a boxer by throwing ones and

1353
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 3: twos and throwing one punch at a time. You gotta

1354
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 3: throw combinations if you're gonna be boxing with the boxer,

1355
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 3: and Anthony and Joshua just didn't do that. And it

1356
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 3: seemed as if like there were moments where he was

1357
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 3: gonna start throwing combinations. But let's face it, he's not

1358
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 3: a combination boxer. So if you're not going to be

1359
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 3: a combination boxer. You have to use your other tool,

1360
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 3: which is your size, lean on him, get him tired,

1361
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: land at dig Shan.

1362
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: You nailed it right there the first The mistake in

1363
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: the first fight was potentially underestimating Ustik. It was trying

1364
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: to box the boxer. And let's give Husi credit and

1365
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: fight one. He went early to land big hard left

1366
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: crosses to sort of send a message. This again more

1367
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: of a boxing match. And even though Joshua went back

1368
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: to the lab with Robert Garcia and I liked the

1369
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: crouch down stance. I liked that he was able to

1370
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: stand at a closer distance. He brought back the jab

1371
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: in ways he didn't in the first fight, although he

1372
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: didn't consistently stick with it, and I think that was because,

1373
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: as you said, Usik's variety and how he countered the jab,

1374
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: whether he's going straight, whether he's going underneath the upshovel jab.

1375
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: It was it was beautiful, it was perfect. And here's

1376
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: the here's the true fact, Rashod. And maybe this is

1377
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: what fueled a second straight miscalculation for Joshua is outside

1378
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: of Tyson Fury, there's just not fighters in this divis

1379
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: who can do what Alexander Husik did, who are six

1380
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: foot three south Paul with that type of foot speed,

1381
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: IQ mental toughness. So I can't do anything but look

1382
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: at this rematch and say, once again, yeah, Anthony, you

1383
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: fought better. But it's the wrong style at the wrong time.

1384
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: He can out box almost everybody else in the division

1385
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: because he's a great athlete. He's smarter than people give

1386
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: him credit. He's learned on the job and he's become

1387
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: a very good fighter overall. But Tyson Fury and Alexander

1388
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: Usik are great heavyweights. They are the class of this era.

1389
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: You cannot beat a great scientific wizard heavyweight by trying

1390
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: to stand in there and out out technical him, out

1391
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: box him. So while the addition of the body punches

1392
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 1: were good and let's give him credit, rounds eight and

1393
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: nine we're AJ's moment and he hurt Usik to the body.

1394
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: He backed him up, he started to mix in some shots.

1395
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: But Rashad, you show under duress what you're really made of,

1396
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: show that his intangibles are a plus plus by his

1397
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: ability in round ten to not only come back aggressive

1398
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: and flip the tables back on AJ. When we were

1399
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: sort of questioning is Zusik gaest is he finally hurt

1400
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: to the body, will he be immobile? And I don't

1401
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: know if you saw that one right cross that Joshua

1402
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: threw in the midst of Usik making a comeback. Most

1403
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: people get knocked out by that right cross. Usik had

1404
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: got jerked back, and he came back with combinations, his

1405
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: ability to answer all the single punches Joshua was doing

1406
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: with two and three punch combinations. And really, Usik didn't

1407
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: commit to power shots like he did the first fight.

1408
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: He leaned on his skills, he leaned on the technical advantages.

1409
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: He got it done. I know Aj was upset with

1410
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: the scores and himself, and we'll get into in a

1411
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: minute that bizarre meltdown he had afterwards. But Rashad, if

1412
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: he's not willing to commit to risk the knockout in

1413
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: order to get one, you just can't beat this guy.

1414
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,959
Speaker 1: I mean, styles make fights for a reason. I don't

1415
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: understand the strategy here. I mean maybe there's part of

1416
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: them that thinking we can slow him down and then

1417
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: maybe what we get a backdoor scorecard because of our aggression.

1418
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's a certain point in that fight

1419
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: where you have to find urgency. He never found that never.

1420
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: Did no, he never found it.

1421
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 3: He never found it, and he didn't even look close

1422
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 3: to even understanding the method in which way he needed

1423
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 3: to fight. It seemed as if like he was trying to,

1424
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: you know, he believed in his training. He believed that

1425
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 3: having a new trainer was going to make him a

1426
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 3: better boxer. And it did make him a better boxer.

1427
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 3: But you're not going to close the distance on the

1428
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 3: kind of skill that Usak have in a training camp.

1429
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 3: You know that takes years and years in a long

1430
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 3: time to experience in order to master that ability to

1431
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 3: be comfortable throwing the punches how Usak does in a combination.

1432
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 3: Since so, Anthony Joshua, you know, it seemed as if

1433
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 3: like he understood the fact that he was a bigger fighter,

1434
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 3: and even speaking about what you said, you know about

1435
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: his post fight talk, he knows that he's a bigger fighter.

1436
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 2: He knows that he's a stronger fighter. But yet he

1437
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: didn't use it.

1438
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 3: And I think that that was the most frustrating part

1439
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 3: for him fighting Usick, and it kind of let me

1440
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 3: know that he gave into frustration because when you think that,

1441
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 3: when you think, okay, this guy. I'm bigger than this guy,

1442
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 3: I'm stronger this guy, but yet you still feel like

1443
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 3: you're getting hit. That is frustrating as hell. So I

1444
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 3: can kind of see that maybe frustrating the frustration not

1445
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 3: only just you know, being out skilled, but just to

1446
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 3: frustration also helped to usher in the demise of the

1447
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:33,759
Speaker 3: knife for Joshua.

1448
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: And look, let's talk about it. We're probably going to

1449
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: see some of these elements and have you seen this shit?

1450
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: But his post fight meltdown included him taking the championship belts,

1451
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: throwing him to the ground, storming out of the ring,

1452
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: pushing his father out of the way, almost having a

1453
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 1: duff stuff with a member of the crowd, then spinning

1454
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: around coming back in common during the microphone And this

1455
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,600
Speaker 1: is where this is where it really rubbed a lot

1456
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: of people the wrong way. You got understand Whusick's fighting

1457
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,799
Speaker 1: for a nation. We don't really understand the emotions involved.

1458
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: We haven't had a sort of big boxing match during

1459
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: wartime where you know that Lewis schmelling two feeling of like,

1460
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, the USA's fighting, not Joe Lewis. We haven't

1461
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: had that in a long time. And Usik's I got

1462
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: tears in his eyes. Only AJ commandeer's the mic like

1463
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: he's Luke Thomas at a live Las Vegas show after

1464
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: too many Margarito's Rashad and you know he all the

1465
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 1: compliments he gave Usick were backhanded. He's complaining it. He's

1466
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: almost going into like this weird character where he's like,

1467
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: people say, I can't throw combinations. I'm not fucking Rocky Morciano,

1468
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: all right, A weegh eighteen stone. I mean like he

1469
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: was really Look, I get your frustrated that you lost

1470
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: when maybe you thought you put in a performance that

1471
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: was better than the first. It was a little bit

1472
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: better than the first. But he completely commandeered that moment.

1473
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: And I think for a lot of people that think

1474
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: Aj is a a little fake, a little bit of

1475
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 1: a robot, a little bit of let me show you

1476
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: on the mic, that I'm this grand guy, the real

1477
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 1: guy underneath may have come out in that. And I

1478
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: liked his apology afterwards in social media, and everybody deserves

1479
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: Rashod a chance to screw up now and then. But

1480
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: that was cringe side of the road, like get that

1481
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: away from me watching how was Usik that poised with

1482
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: shot I mean, most guys are just you take a

1483
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: flag off that guy's shoulders and put it over your

1484
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: own as you're disparaging him. How did you sort of

1485
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: read all this?

1486
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: You know, it was very awkward, and I felt as

1487
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 2: if like maybe.

1488
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 3: Uh Usik may have not been you know, may have

1489
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 3: not been all the way you know, tuned in too,

1490
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 3: just like the backhanded compliment that he was getting or

1491
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 3: just you know what I'm saying, But I mean, it

1492
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: just truly showed to me more than anything was just

1493
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 3: you know, the frustration that Anthony Joshua was just feeling

1494
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 3: on so many levels, you know, and the simple fact

1495
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 3: that he wasn't able to go on there and improve

1496
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 3: on a way that amounted to a win. It is

1497
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 3: frustrating because now if you're him, you're left with, Okay,

1498
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 3: what do I do? I truly gave my best, and

1499
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 3: there's nothing more frustrating and spells the end, or kind

1500
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 3: of feels like the end when you gave it all

1501
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 3: you got and you just have you just don't have enough,

1502
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 3: you know, And that's you know, going back to Luke Rockold,

1503
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 3: you know, when he was talking about he's old and

1504
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 3: he doesn't have anything left he gave everything he had

1505
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 3: and it just wasn't good enough. And sometimes you just

1506
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 3: feel that way, And I wonder if Anthony Joshua was

1507
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 3: kind of feeling a shadow of something like that.

1508
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: Look, when you have no excuses and you give everything

1509
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,520
Speaker 1: you have and you lose in any sport or any endeavor,

1510
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: that's the potential turning point moment where you either go

1511
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: in the other direction or you dig deep. Let's give

1512
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: aj credit. He's always dug deep, whether in fights, getting

1513
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: up off the canvas, coming back after the embarrassment of

1514
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: the Andy Ruiz loss. I think he'll be back. I

1515
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: think he will make huge fights the rest of his career,

1516
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,879
Speaker 1: whether it's finally fighting Wilder, whether it's you know, finally

1517
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: fighting Fury. There's a lot of opportunities here potentially for him.

1518
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: I think he'll be okay. But yeah, there's a lot

1519
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: of looking in the mirror, and I hope stylistically to

1520
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 1: figure out against certain opponents. I can only do certain things.

1521
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: We'll see before we get into Fury and what could

1522
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,879
Speaker 1: be next. I did want to hit up Usik Rashotat

1523
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:15,520
Speaker 1: just from this standpoint, he's becoming historically relevant. He's undefeated,

1524
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: Olympic gold medalist, became the first four belt undisputed cruiseweight champion,

1525
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: and went through a gauntlet in that tournament a couple

1526
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: of years back to unify and get here, and now

1527
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: he's got two wins over Anthony Joshua and a chance

1528
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: to fight for undisputed heavyweight championship. The only problem up

1529
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: to this point is like he's still in the midst

1530
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: of his prime. He's only had four heavyweight fights. We

1531
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: haven't seen him. You know, Go beat Dillian White, Go

1532
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: beat Luis Ortiz, Go beat Tyson Fury, Go beat all

1533
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 1: these guys. But up to this point, are we truly

1534
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: watching something special in your eyes? I mean, does it

1535
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: jump through the screen to you like it does for

1536
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,520
Speaker 1: me and a lot of my boxing compatriots.

1537
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: You know, it didn't, And I wasn't somebody who got

1538
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 3: Uzik right away. It really took some time for me

1539
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 3: to really live at him and just kind of see

1540
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,640
Speaker 3: what I'm working with here. But I'm really starting to

1541
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 3: get on the hype train of Usik. You know, he's

1542
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,719
Speaker 3: got he's got something. You know, he's a very smart fighter,

1543
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 3: and he's got one of those things that is very

1544
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 3: hard to plan for if you're a fighter, Like on tape,

1545
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 3: he looks one way, but when you get inside the

1546
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 3: ring with him, it seems as if, like a lot

1547
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 3: of fighters like, oh man, this is nothing like I

1548
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 3: thought it was going to be at all.

1549
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,480
Speaker 2: You know, he's faster, or his comminations the better, his footwork.

1550
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 3: Is better, His ide you know, has ideation on where

1551
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 3: to throw where he needs to be is so much better.

1552
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 3: And you can even pick up on film and I

1553
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 3: think that's what comes across and when you get in

1554
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 3: there with him, it's a total different story. So I

1555
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 3: think he's definitely somebody who's you know, gaining more respect

1556
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 3: than who's definitely becoming a huge problem.

1557
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: Now the next step is is really I mean, you know,

1558
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:52,480
Speaker 1: with respect to Spence Crawford, which has maybe a higher

1559
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: pound impact, there's no bigger fight you can make in

1560
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: this sport. And Alexander Husik versus Tyson Fury for all

1561
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 1: four heavyweight titles, whether it's the end of this year,

1562
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: early next year, look, it has to happen for the sport.

1563
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: I thought the best thing Usik said afterwards was, uh,

1564
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:09,879
Speaker 1: if I don't if you know, Tyson come out of retirement,

1565
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: let's do this. You're not retired, and if you don't

1566
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: do this, I'm not fighting anyone else. That's the best move.

1567
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 1: And Rashide, I've said it a million times. The retirement

1568
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: thing of Fury seems to all be fake or just

1569
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 1: to waste the time or whatever until he gives up

1570
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: that WBC belt and allows somebody else to fight for it.

1571
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: He's not retired. And if he doesn't fight Usick right now,

1572
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 1: as much as I love Tyson put that scarlet letter

1573
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: on him, you can't recover from that type of ducking.

1574
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: I still think Fury will be favored across the board,

1575
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: and really, as great as Usik is, he's gonna have

1576
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: to notch it up another level to beat Fury. Is

1577
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: how do you sort of see this potential matchup playing out?

1578
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: Because Fury at six foot nine is a total frickin

1579
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 1: unicorn and Usik at six ' three can do things

1580
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: shoeshine wise, you know, technique wise that guys this size

1581
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: just don't do. But if anybody can solve that, it's

1582
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: gotta be Tyson Fury, right.

1583
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 3: I think it's definitely Tyson Fury because I look at

1584
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 3: Tyson Fury and you look at the way Tyson has

1585
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 3: fought Deontay Wilder and his few fights that you know,

1586
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 3: his fights after that is the fact that you know,

1587
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 3: Tyson Fury can fight in many different ways.

1588
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: He can be the boxer, he can be the ground,

1589
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 2: the grinder, he can be the power puncher.

1590
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 3: You know, he can be slick, He can be so

1591
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 3: many different things, and he's and he can be all

1592
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 3: those things while he's fighting one person. You know, he

1593
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,919
Speaker 3: can constantly switch back and forth between these different styles

1594
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 3: and really changing the effectiveness of his technique because he's

1595
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 3: so fluid and he's so good and he's so cerebel

1596
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 3: the way that he fights. You know, if this fight

1597
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 3: was to happen, I would like Tyson Feury in his phone,

1598
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 3: but I think Usik would would definitely give him a

1599
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 3: bit of trouble with his combination punching and his ability

1600
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 3: to kind of stand inside. And also, not for nothing,

1601
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 3: Usik is a lot more physical than you will think

1602
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 3: for somebody of his size. He fights very physical for

1603
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 3: somebody being a small azea. So don't think that you're

1604
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 3: going to just bully over him with strength. So it

1605
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 3: would be very interesting. But I do like Tyson Fury

1606
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 3: because he has more ways technically speaking, to win.

1607
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I don't I don't want to believe

1608
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: that this is all a setup for a duck. I

1609
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: think it's just him trying to build leverage all that

1610
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: and shout out to him for Fury on that. I

1611
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: think you're right because as much as we're saying, look, Aj,

1612
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 1: you got to mirror what Derek Chesora did in the

1613
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: fight before AJ, when Usik won a close decision and

1614
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: he got physically handled because Chazora was so physical and

1615
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: wrapping them up and coming forward. Well, anytime AJ even

1616
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: sniffed that out. To your point, Usak two handed shove.

1617
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't overly like dirty, but it was timely in

1618
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,879
Speaker 1: the moment. Two handed shove, create that space, throw punches.

1619
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: He's special And even though I still would like Fury

1620
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: against him, although we need to see that fight, don't

1621
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: underestimate that Fury's able to do all of these quick

1622
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: things he's doing against heavyweights that, in comparison to Usak

1623
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: are slow and plotting, you know what I'm saying. So,

1624
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's still gonna be an adjustment for him

1625
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 1: against somebody like Usik. But man, an night, what a

1626
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: time the division, I mean heavyweight division. Heavyweight boxing is

1627
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 1: just different for shot at this level, when you get

1628
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: guys like this, it's just different. It was a joy

1629
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: to watch this fight. I loved it. I loved it.

1630
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, man.

1631
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 3: It's it's really what's bringing back boxing, you know what

1632
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, the heavyweight division. Like before, it was a

1633
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 3: light ofweight classes that was carrying the whole boxing scene.

1634
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 3: But once the heavyweight's re emerged on the scene, it

1635
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 3: just brought back this excitement in the weight class, I

1636
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 3: mean in the boxing in general, and kind of like

1637
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 3: put jumper cables to boxing.

1638
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, speaking of the box we'll continue into topic

1639
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: four here. Saturday night in Hollywood, Florida. I was there

1640
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: for the prelims with Keith Thurman. Shout out to all

1641
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: you who took part. But it went down the quadruple header.

1642
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 1: In the main event, a one hundred and forty pound

1643
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 1: last minute replacement with Adrian Bruner out former world champion

1644
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 1: Surge lipinettess In. It was a comeback story for Omar

1645
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: figuero A junior from a rough couple of years and

1646
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: defeats and a bipolar disorder and many other things. Going on.

1647
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: But this turned out for Shot. Even though he was

1648
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: the last minute replace meant to be a showcase the circuit,

1649
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: Lipaynettes still might have it here. The former world champion

1650
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 1: who moved back down from one forty seven, took a

1651
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: couple of losses there, especially against Boots Ennis. This seems

1652
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 1: to be the weight class where he's at. That gave

1653
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: us the action we expected, including Figueroa jumping all over him.

1654
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: But Lipignettes was a samurai and there were shot akin

1655
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: to his nickname. You had to like the counterpunching and

1656
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: the way he was able to in the end overwhelm

1657
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: and stop Figaroa.

1658
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 3: Lipognettes was just on point. He was on point. You know,

1659
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 3: he was aggressive, He jumped on it and he didn't

1660
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 3: waste no time. His you know, his punch selection was

1661
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: very creative and it was it was hard, and he

1662
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 3: threw a lot of punches and he threw them with

1663
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 3: power and just I mean, the domination of this fight

1664
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 3: was just it was it was out of control. Like

1665
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 3: when he knocked him down. I believe it was like

1666
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 3: in a second or third round. I forget which run

1667
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 3: it was. It was just kind of like, okay, how

1668
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 3: was this fight going to you know, how how is

1669
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 3: Figarrea gonna, you know, come back after this? But I mean,

1670
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 3: Lipognatz just was just on point and he really just

1671
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 3: beat the snot out of Figureedo like and it just

1672
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 3: it kind of made me sad a little bit, to

1673
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 3: be honest, to look at Figureedo and just kind of

1674
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 3: see him just morally just get destroyed.

1675
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: I wonder if he heads into retirement after this. And

1676
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: I saw some comments from him that may have teased that.

1677
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: It's a third straight defeat for Figueroa. He's always been

1678
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: somebody who, like former champion at lightweight, but I don't

1679
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: want to say he was looked at as a weight bully,

1680
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 1: but he was somebody who was going to be bigger

1681
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: at that weight class, could cut down and then could

1682
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: just get in your face, lean on you and throw

1683
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 1: those haymakers all night, force you into submission. It's the

1684
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: same style his brother Brandon uses at featherweight, but ever

1685
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: since moving up in wait rashad that you know, the

1686
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: punching power hasn't carried so when you have long arms,

1687
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 1: yet you don't use the length, and you have a

1688
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:58,799
Speaker 1: style that walks right intown coming traffic. If you're not mentally, physically, spiritually,

1689
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: emotionally at your best, You're gonna find guys like this.

1690
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: And what Lipoats does so great is he's a technician,

1691
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: but he uses a brawling style, meaning he's a technician

1692
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: in front of you in the pocket. And he had

1693
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: to take you know, some some flurries early. But once

1694
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 1: he figured out Figueroa's odd style of switching stances and

1695
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: coming in at angles, Figaroa can't hurt him and that

1696
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 1: was the major problem, which led to his father, Omar Senior,

1697
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:24,959
Speaker 1: who was back in his corner after a long absence,

1698
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 1: throwing in the towel after round eight. I don't know

1699
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: if if Figueroa should continue Rashad because this style doesn't

1700
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: age well in these divisions with these level punchers. He's

1701
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 1: been through a lot, he seems to to as much

1702
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: as it was brave for him to get back here,

1703
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,520
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot to love overall with his performance.

1704
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 3: Hey, you know what like scarlet Like they say, it's

1705
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 3: in the eyes Chico, it's in the eyes, and in

1706
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 3: the eyes of Figuredo it just didn't look like he

1707
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 3: wanted to be there. You know, I don't know what

1708
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 3: he's going through and what he's been going through on

1709
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 3: a personal level. But you know that the story about

1710
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 3: him trying to make it through depression and making it

1711
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,959
Speaker 3: through you know, the mental health issues.

1712
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 2: I seen a.

1713
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 3: Bit of the remnants or it seems you can still

1714
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 3: see a bit of the remnants of that in this fight.

1715
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: You know, it just didn't look like he was confident,

1716
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 3: and then once a fight started getting away from him,

1717
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 3: you just kind of see him seeking to this expression

1718
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 3: where it almost spelled like I want to quit.

1719
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, he knew he

1720
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 2: you know, he didn't He didn't.

1721
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 3: Want to quit in front of his people, so he

1722
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 3: kind of felt, you know, fought through it, but it

1723
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 3: was it was a dead man walking.

1724
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: He didn't really fight like he wanted to be out there.

1725
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see what happens moving forward for Omar Figureo,

1726
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 1: who's given us some incredible fights and always a game,

1727
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: always game. For Laponnett, you gotta believe he's gonna be

1728
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: able to spin this into a potential title opportunity. He

1729
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: still seems game, still seems ready now back in his

1730
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: right weight class and quickly reshot on that opener, we

1731
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 1: saw him beating Brandon Lee, who was a young puncher

1732
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: at one foot already worth watching, knocked down for the

1733
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: first time in his career and got knocked down on

1734
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: a nasty shot but got up there are righted the

1735
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: wrong gotta decision win. I think we got a replay here,

1736
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: but potentially of this knockdown, it was pretty nasty. His

1737
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: body went in the other direction. But you know, he

1738
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 1: said afterwards, these are the type of fights I needed.

1739
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: And he's coming off a decision when in which he

1740
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: also against Zakachoa, didn't shine in other ways. He's doing that.

1741
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: We said, when you're a young fighter and you're knocking

1742
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: everybody out, blowing them away, you kind of need people

1743
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: who will know sell you and make you work for it.

1744
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 1: There's the knockdown that we mentioned to sort of find

1745
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 1: out who you really are when the other person doesn't

1746
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: go down. So could end up being a really important

1747
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: step for Brandon Lee, who's a heck of an athlete.

1748
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. As a fighter, you know, you hope to

1749
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 2: get tested.

1750
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 3: At the same time you really don't because those tests

1751
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 3: come in a form of you know, getting knocked down

1752
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 3: and potentially losing a fight. But it's through these moments

1753
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 3: of working through adversity, of working through things that are

1754
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 3: not going your way. That makes you a fighter who

1755
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 3: can make it through any situation. And you have to

1756
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 3: have moments like this if you want to be that guy,

1757
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 3: if you want to be somebody who truly you know,

1758
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 3: is historical, you have to be somebody who's able to

1759
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 3: rise and go where you know when things are, when

1760
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 3: the chips are down, you still find a way to

1761
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 3: get it done.

1762
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Lee was twenty four and oh with twenty two

1763
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: KOs coming in, but he goes the distance here over

1764
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: will Madera gets the job done. We'll see what happens.

1765
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: He's going to be fun to watch. But this was

1766
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: another learning moment there. We'll go to topic five, which

1767
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: is a rest of the weekend Hodgepodge rishon. I don't

1768
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: know what the networks and promoters were thinking putting on

1769
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,759
Speaker 1: about seventeen events, most of them in England, it would seem,

1770
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: and PFL nine was one of those. The semi finals

1771
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: in two different divisions and Kayla Harrison in the main event,

1772
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,640
Speaker 1: two time champ defending champion at Witman's lightweight Excuse me

1773
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: one fifty five on Martina Jindrova and it didn't take

1774
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: her long three minutes plus in an arm triangle choke

1775
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: after going to full mount. This was full domination. And

1776
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: before we get into who she'll face next and why,

1777
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: it's actually an interesting matchup for as quick as it was,

1778
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 1: what did you see here from the One Woman Gang

1779
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 1: of Kayla Harrison?

1780
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 3: Well, I've seen that she's gotten a lot better with

1781
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 3: her striking and just being comfortable to set up her

1782
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 3: takedown and that transition. You know, she had a really

1783
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 3: nice bounce and you know, really good defense too as

1784
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 3: far as you know seeing punches coming. So I think

1785
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 3: that's a that's a huge wrinkle in her game, is

1786
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 3: something that she can start to develop more because listen

1787
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 3: to takedown than Dolly was going to be there.

1788
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: You have to be able to find a way and

1789
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 2: feel comfortable enough to.

1790
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 3: Strike and close the distance with your hands and keep

1791
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 3: the fight on your feet potentially if you have to.

1792
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 2: And it looked like she's starting to get to that point.

1793
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:53,799
Speaker 2: But I mean, when.

1794
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 3: She's on top, she's just so physically dominating that it's

1795
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 3: a foregone conclusion once she gets on top, and you know,

1796
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 3: it is really hard for me to imagine her going

1797
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 3: against somebody who's able to compete with her on the

1798
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 3: ground with the strength that she has.

1799
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: At the very least Rashad, where Kayla is in a

1800
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: division in a promotion in which she's just mopping the

1801
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: floor dominant, but is She's fifteen to oh at this point,

1802
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: and I know she's looking to next year and hopefully

1803
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: bringing in Cyborgs. She was calling out a man of news,

1804
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,839
Speaker 1: but she's calling out everybody. She's got the pro wrestling

1805
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: stick down for the promos. I haven't gotten the feeling

1806
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,600
Speaker 1: she like loves being here, like there's any real competition

1807
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: at the very least this time around, she's gonna have

1808
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 1: somebody in the championship who, yes, she knows well, and

1809
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: Larisa Pacheco, but somebody Rashad, who is on fire, the

1810
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: twenty seven year old Brazilian who fought Kayla Harrison twice

1811
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 1: in the twenty nineteen PFL season, once in the regular

1812
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: once in the championship, and although she lost both, she

1813
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 1: pushed Kayla to the limit, losing decisions three and five

1814
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: rounds in both and Rashad, she's now five and oh

1815
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: with five first round finishes sence that fight in fact,

1816
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 1: the only person she's lost to in the lost ten

1817
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: fights is Kayla Harrison. They're gonna meet now for a

1818
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: third time in the championship because Pacheco went out there

1819
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 1: against Olana Kolesnik, who she had knocked out in last

1820
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: year season and did it again in the first round

1821
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: with big punches. Rashad I didn't even realize this was

1822
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 1: the same fighter who had two UFC fights going back

1823
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: to twenty fifteen and got stopped by Jessica Androge by submission.

1824
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 1: At Bandam Waight got stopped by Jermaine Durandamy and then

1825
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: got cut. So, okay, she had two losses to two champions.

1826
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: She's now two weight classes higher, and she's a freaking threat.

1827
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: She's a train that's coming on and she already knows

1828
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 1: that she's had at least some level of success against

1829
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: Kayla Harrison. How good is Larissa Pacheco here because she's

1830
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:47,520
Speaker 1: blowing people away.

1831
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 2: Well, she's really good, to be honest, he's really good.

1832
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 3: I mean her stand up and her ability to keep

1833
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 3: the fight where she needs it to keep the fight

1834
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,640
Speaker 3: is just is good. But I mean having the experience

1835
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 3: you know of gone with with Kayla a couple of times.

1836
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 3: It kind of makes it easier for her to, you know,

1837
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 3: to fight her for the third time because now she's

1838
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 3: she's not that monster, you know what I'm saying, She's

1839
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 3: she's she's kind of got knocked off the pedestal.

1840
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 2: A little bit of just that anticipation.

1841
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,759
Speaker 3: Sometimes you fight somebody and you know, you're so nervous

1842
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 3: to fight them, and they have all these accolades going

1843
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 3: in you're beat before the composition start. Well, that's not

1844
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 3: going to be the case, because you know, she's taken

1845
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,640
Speaker 3: her off that pedestal, because she's gone the distance with

1846
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 3: her and she knows what it's like to be in

1847
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 3: there with hers.

1848
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 2: So it's going to be a.

1849
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 3: Difficult fight for Kayla, I believe, you know, in so

1850
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 3: many ways because of the fact that she's fighting somebody

1851
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 3: who is not afraid to be in there.

1852
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 1: And look how many Kayla Harrison opponents have a potential

1853
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: legitimate chance under the PFL banner to knock her out

1854
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: with one strike. You would say, are there any Well,

1855
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: there is it's Larsa Pacheco and and and even though

1856
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: again lost twice to Harrison, those two losses are now

1857
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 1: three calendar years ago. But Jaco is not the fighter

1858
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: that lost at one thirty five to Androge and Durando

1859
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: me anymore. She may not even be the fighter that's

1860
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: lost to Harrison twice. Three years ago. Aaron Bronstadter tried

1861
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: to get me hyped up for this fight, and I

1862
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: told him, Look, you know, I know TSN has exclusive

1863
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: Canadian rights to PFL, but you know, don't sell me

1864
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: this time. Share. I'm not willing. I'm willing now we're shot.

1865
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this because you know Harrison is

1866
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 1: Harrison one woman must see TV. Yes, Kayla Harrison is

1867
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: truly Elee, a potential special athlete. Well, she's got someone

1868
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:32,479
Speaker 1: who's hungry, who can finish her and has a nice

1869
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: high and tight fade, Larisa Pacheco. So shout out there,

1870
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 1: I'm looking for this for shot. We'll see what happens.

1871
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 1: On the men's featherweight side, you had Baba Jenkins finishing

1872
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: rio Ji Kudo by first round rear naked choke, some

1873
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: two souplexes got his back and got him. And then

1874
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: we had Brendan Locknan. You may remember him getting rejected

1875
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 1: by Dana White for wrestling too much on the Contender series.

1876
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: He's battled all the way through this tournament and he

1877
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: went here with Chris and they did not like each other,

1878
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 1: and Brendan Lockman took a three round thirty to twenty

1879
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 1: seven unanimous decision. Bubba Jenkins Brendan Locknan embraced after the fights.

1880
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: They were laughing. They like each other. You know they're

1881
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 1: gonna go to battle. This has become sort of an

1882
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: interesting draw here for PFL at one hundred and forty

1883
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 1: five pounds. Do you have a feeling of which way

1884
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: this is gonna go come championship time? Because both Jenkins

1885
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: and Locknan and looked really good in their particular fights here.

1886
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bubba Jenkins really seemed to figure it out, you

1887
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 3: know with his rustling and also with his striking. So

1888
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 3: now he's kind of figured out his special sauce. And

1889
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 3: it takes some time, you know, in order to figure

1890
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 3: that out as a wrestler coming into the sport. But

1891
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 3: it looks like Bubba has figured out. But Brendan is

1892
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 3: a special athlete. I had a chance to train with

1893
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 3: him a few years ago back in LA with Dominant Cruz.

1894
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 3: He's really good friends with Domina Cruz, and you know,

1895
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 3: I was really impressed with just his overaw skill. You know,

1896
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 3: he's got some rhythm too, you know what I'm saying.

1897
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 3: So he got he's got that smooth this to a style.

1898
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a very interesting matchup. And and

1899
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 3: thing with Brandon is that he can fight at many

1900
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 3: different levels.

1901
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 2: He can wrestle, he has.

1902
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:11,440
Speaker 3: Really good striking, and he has a really good imagination,

1903
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 3: so being creative inside the cage.

1904
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 2: It's going to be a really good fight.

1905
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 3: And I feel like if Bubb's gonna win this fight,

1906
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to, you know, really win it on

1907
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 3: his feet.

1908
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 2: First before you can side and posing.

1909
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 1: And if for wrestling, yeah, and Wade had been in

1910
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: different weight classes a regular hare in the PFL playoffs

1911
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 1: and making noise, and Wade landed at high kick to

1912
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:31,719
Speaker 1: the back of the neck of Lockman in the first round,

1913
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: so Brendan had to really fight through that and he

1914
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 1: ended up getting all three judges score the scores in

1915
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: his direction every round on all three scorecards, thirty to

1916
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,719
Speaker 1: twenty seven. So I'm looking forward to this. Look PFL,

1917
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, two years ago, get off my

1918
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Speaker 1: screen last year. I kind of like it, you know,

1919
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Speaker 1: there's some personalities or some old names. You know, they

1920
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: got me, they got me. We shot now. Now the

1921
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: Smart Cage, that's another story. Don't get Luke Thomas going

1922
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: on the smart age, Okay, I mean smart closer smart

1923
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: is that? I mean it's it's a chain fence. Mean,

1924
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Can you order your food

1925
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 1: from there? I don't think so, you know, I mean

1926
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 1: maybe like Alexa, maybe the smart Cage is always listening. Rashod, Yeah, right,

1927
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 1: there you go. That was PFL nine. We closed topic five,

1928
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 1: the second half of it with what went down also

1929
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: in London, b KFC Michael Venimpaige finned a one off

1930
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: contract to get away from Bellatore for a hot second,

1931
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 1: to take the money, take the opportunity Maniac Platinum. Mike

1932
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: Perry was in front of him. Rashod. I didn't have

1933
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: the balls to pick Mike Perry. But on Friday Show

1934
01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:38,440
Speaker 1: when I told everybody, look, this is not the format

1935
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 1: for MVP style. You gotta be grinding me as shit.

1936
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: And it's not that he's not willing to go in there.

1937
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 1: He fought six rounds with Mike Perry. But I'm here

1938
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 1: to say I'm not surprised motherfuckers that Mike Perry found

1939
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: a way to get inside and just almost outgross him

1940
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 1: or outwill him. People told me I was crazy for

1941
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 1: shod They've told me that a few times in my life.

1942
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of popped when the decision

1943
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: was read. Mike Perry earned this ship. He went into

1944
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: the uh you know, behind the building, into the street

1945
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 1: to turn this. He got the job done. I don't

1946
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to ask you a question here?

1947
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 1: What did you think of this? This h of this

1948
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 1: slop parent?

1949
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 2: Man? I love that. Man, I'm a huge Mike Perry fan.

1950
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 3: I absolutely love the way that he fights in the

1951
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 3: place that he fights from.

1952
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1953
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 3: He fights from that fucking place that I absolutely love.

1954
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 2: And he did that. He did that on Saturday.

1955
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 3: But you know one thing that I really felt that

1956
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:37,440
Speaker 3: you know, uh the MVP did himself are really disservices

1957
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 3: the fact that technically speaking, I just I just I

1958
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 3: felt like he really missed a big opportunity to capitalize

1959
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 3: on his size. Now, now listen to me when I

1960
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 3: say this, like he's a long fighter and he could

1961
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 3: have just kept Mike Perry at the end of his jabs, the.

1962
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 2: Whole time trying to walk forward.

1963
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 3: But for some odd freaking re MVP thought it'd be

1964
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 3: a good idea to throw his right hand all night

1965
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 3: and really didn't use his.

1966
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 2: Jab at all. Now, now, now listen, he has.

1967
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 3: A stance where he's kind of you know, he's very

1968
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 3: like a karate stance, right, so when he kind of

1969
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 3: throws his right hand, now his right hand it doesn't

1970
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 3: have the reach, it doesn't have the length. So now

1971
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 3: his right hand is the same length as Mike Mike

1972
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 3: Perry's is for him. So now he's punching with Mike

1973
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 3: Perry and they're hitting each other simultaneously.

1974
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 2: Instead of him being.

1975
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 3: Able to hit Mike and Mike not being able to

1976
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 3: hit him, if he would have used his law his

1977
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,280
Speaker 3: lead hand, and that's what it kind of just perplexed me,

1978
01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 3: because whenever.

1979
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 2: He was able to use his jab and use it.

1980
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 3: Effectively, it looked like Mike Perry couldn't find where he

1981
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 3: was at.

1982
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: But I fully agree with that analysis. No jab, you're

1983
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: you're the lunger fighter. I thought this fight could be

1984
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 1: competitive because, as we talked about last week, Mike Perry

1985
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: or MVP can't use the threat of the knees and

1986
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: the legs to freeze guys. This is what it is.

1987
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 1: You know you're going after it here, it's a different game.

1988
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 1: You have to condition your knuckles differently. You have to

1989
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 1: load up at certain times when other times not. There's

1990
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,679
Speaker 1: clinching and dirty boxing involved. I thought if Mike Perry

1991
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: could get inside, he could yuck this up to where

1992
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: he could have some success. They both, in the end,

1993
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm giving credit, had to show a ton of heart

1994
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: and will to get I mean, look, they went five rounds.

1995
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: It was rule a split draw. Page got knocked down

1996
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: in the first round. Perry in the third round got

1997
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: dropped to his hands. They went to the overtime round

1998
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: and you saw Mike Perry just go to a place

1999
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 1: that he's frankly more comfortable being in rashad. I've said

2000
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 1: this time and again sometimes I cal him like BFC's

2001
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 1: fun because they don't hide from who they are, right,

2002
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 1: it is what it is. They have an opening where

2003
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 1: if you're like, if you're just griming me as shit

2004
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 1: and you can talk on the Mike pro wrestling style,

2005
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: you can become a star there. But if you are

2006
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: a still elite somewhat elite MMA or boxer. You do

2007
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: have to think twice about chasing the money because not

2008
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: just you could get carved up stylistically, it's not the

2009
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 1: best use of your talents, to be fair, Like rashot,

2010
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I'm a keyboard warrior, forty four year

2011
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: old dad with a bad liver. You're a you know,

2012
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 1: world class athlete, former champion who still got it. If

2013
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 1: you and I were to sign the fight for big

2014
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: time money in any discipline judo, wrestling, boxing, fight, you're

2015
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: gonna win, okay. But what if I challenge you to

2016
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: a fight in a men's bathroom stall naked? Yeah, with

2017
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 1: the lights off. I don't know, Rashad, if you're coming

2018
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 1: out of there with your hand raised, because shot, okay,

2019
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:48,640
Speaker 1: I may have to do things I'm not proud of

2020
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 1: to win that fight. You fight Mike Perry in a

2021
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 1: bare knuckle circle, dude, he's gonna find a way to

2022
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 1: win the fight, right.

2023
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.

2024
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Speaker 3: That is such a great analogy, and it's so true

2025
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 3: because you've seen Mike Perry just kind of settle into

2026
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 3: the grime of the fight, and when he started selling

2027
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,839
Speaker 3: in the grime of a fight, you've seen the exact

2028
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 3: opposite in MVP and his body language where he was

2029
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 3: just like, Holy hell, what did I get myself into.

2030
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 3: You can almost see the look in his eyes and

2031
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying, dude, this is not what I thought it

2032
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 3: was gonna be. And once all that pretty, all that

2033
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 3: pretty shit wasn't working. Oh man, he was realizing that

2034
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,640
Speaker 3: maybe I should have stuck to MMA.

2035
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 1: Well, I think he thought, if I could just line

2036
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 1: him up as he's coming forward with a right hand,

2037
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 1: it'll be over. He did line him up with that,

2038
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: and it wasn't over. So that's that's how you had it.

2039
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: That's what happened there. Quickly before we go to the

2040
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 1: end of the show, Mike Perry wants to rematch MVP

2041
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 1: said yes, but he headed it after saying more people

2042
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 1: have to say yes than just me, and I think

2043
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 1: that means the terms of his Bellotor deal. Could you

2044
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 1: see a scenario where Mike Perry gets offered decent money

2045
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:56,759
Speaker 1: to rematch this in Bellator?

2046
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:01,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, I don't I don't know. I mean,

2047
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2048
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 3: How much Bellatour wants to ride off the coattails of

2049
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 3: what Baron knuckle Boxing did you know what I'm saying.

2050
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 1: That's a fair point. That's a fair point. It is

2051
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: the last stop on the Combat Sports Journey unless they

2052
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 1: offer you a lot of money and you take it.

2053
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 1: And I do caution people of taking that because shit

2054
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 1: can go down.

2055
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 3: Here.

2056
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Let's keep the show rolling. We've got two more segments

2057
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: for you. Every Sunday night on the Instagram account of

2058
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 1: that Morning Combat. We put out the DMS for Donks questionnaire.

2059
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 1: You respond to it, you have a chance of getting

2060
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 1: your voice heard on this show. Here it is. We

2061
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 1: got some mail here. It's DMS from Donks. He haw

2062
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 1: he friggin' haw. All right, we've got mail viewers. Let's

2063
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 1: see what they have to say. Here we go. Will

2064
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:58,600
Speaker 1: you post it there? It is at Paypool. Does Leon's

2065
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 1: ko surpass Anderson's late Triangle versus Chail as the greatest

2066
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 1: comeback in the history of MMA. Let's start with that

2067
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 1: question first. Rashad does it?

2068
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 2: Yes?

2069
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 3: And I say that, and I say that because of

2070
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,680
Speaker 3: just the devastating nature of it. I mean, like with

2071
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 3: the Anderson silva, you know you kind of seen that

2072
01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 3: he was kind of setting it up and it can

2073
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 3: potentially happen.

2074
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 2: But with the way the headcake happened. No one's seen

2075
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 2: that coming.

2076
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 3: No one even seen that, even Leon even had that

2077
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 3: much gas in the tank to even land with that

2078
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,000
Speaker 3: much power, and the fact that he did that you

2079
01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 3: could hear like a pin drop. It was just like

2080
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 3: so like everybody mouth was on the floor, My heart was,

2081
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 3: you know, in my stomach, and I I was ready

2082
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 3: to throw up, man.

2083
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think so, I actually think it might

2084
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: surpass that as the greatest most shocking one. I mean,

2085
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 1: the Anderson one was Hella shocking and he had a

2086
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,560
Speaker 1: broken rib and Chaill was on the stuff and he

2087
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 1: was putting it on him. But when Chill got caught

2088
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 1: in that, You're like, that was a way to win,

2089
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 1: Like I could see that happening. As surprising as it was,

2090
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: this this was wild. There was a second half of

2091
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: that question, could you flash it quickly if we still

2092
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: have at Patty Bear's question on island Luky with me

2093
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 1: here at Payul Sorry. Similarly, which was the bigger shock,

2094
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 1: Leon's win or biz Ping's knocking out rock holed? Oh?

2095
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: It was Leon's win because look right, usman was the

2096
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 1: was the pumper pound king on you know, undefeated in

2097
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 1: the cage. That's it. That's it right there. Let's keep

2098
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 1: it going. Our next DM are you there? Listener from

2099
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 1: at telvin Key Papa Hawaii's onn We love this guy

2100
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,760
Speaker 1: with Leon's win over Usman and if Sterling beats TJ. Dillashaw.

2101
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a possibility of UFC Jamaica And

2102
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: he closes with Yeaman.

2103
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 2: That will be very cool UFC Jamaica. That would be amazing.

2104
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, it would really take both

2105
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 3: of those guys, you know, to really become more of

2106
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:04,160
Speaker 3: a fan favorite. Leon fights Ousman again and he wins,

2107
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 3: and you know he's able to then you know, go

2108
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 3: and beat somebody else.

2109
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 2: Then I can see them doing a UFC in Jamaica.

2110
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: And to quote the movie Half Baked, what part of

2111
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 1: Jamaica should they put the octagon in? Right near the beach?

2112
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:17,879
Speaker 2: Right near the beach?

2113
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 1: Moddy, we got any more of these tricky dms here?

2114
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 1: From at G Glow Glose Glow Loose. I don't I mean,

2115
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 1: I don't know who these people are, Reshid. This could

2116
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: be some yeah, b C. Where did you get the

2117
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 1: energy for this pound for pound type weekend? You had?

2118
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,520
Speaker 1: Love the solo show. But I love the instant reactions

2119
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 1: to AJ and UFC two seventy eight, on top of

2120
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 1: having to be on the broadcast with Keith Thurman b

2121
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 1: D Yes, it was bde Indeed, it was fueled by

2122
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 1: caffeine and my great team around me. But that's with

2123
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 1: Luke on vacation. That's a day for the ages in

2124
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: terms of the load. I also write in recaps and stories,

2125
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 1: but Rashad, we got the job done. At the end

2126
01:40:58,320 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: of the day. I won't sit here and say I

2127
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 1: was as good as I could be in each of those.

2128
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 2: You can patch yourself on the back. You can patch

2129
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 2: yourself on.

2130
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm not hesitating to do that there. But you know

2131
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 1: the thing about BC that I think my staff knows is,

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01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, you turn that red light on shot. It

2133
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what condition on that, Okay, all right, It's

2134
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 1: like it's like a horny teen in the red light

2135
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 1: district of Amberterdam right, glassy eye. I'm gonna find that

2136
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: red light and I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna bang.

2137
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Anything else for the d

2138
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:31,280
Speaker 1: ms at Love to Fight Underscore fourteen seventeen. WW, that's great.

2139
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: Gready through that underscore and is Utah going to always

2140
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 1: produce quote boring fights because of the high elevation. Seems

2141
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: like every fighter gassed out after round two. Well, I

2142
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: don't know about boring fights.

2143
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 3: For shot, it was pretty you know I was for

2144
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 3: me watching it live, it was not boring.

2145
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 2: It was a pretty exciting card.

2146
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 3: And I mean this is coming from me a couple

2147
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 3: of weeks ago watching one of the most exciting cars

2148
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 3: ten fight, ten fights and ten finishes at the ufc APEX.

2149
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:02,840
Speaker 2: So I feel like this was a pretty entertainment entertaining night.

2150
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 3: I don't feel like any of the fights I was

2151
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 3: I was really bored at.

2152
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:11,840
Speaker 2: I mean the Utah crowd, they got kind of spoiled.

2153
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 3: Early because there were a few finishes early and like

2154
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 3: the action stopped for one minute, they were already booming.

2155
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 1: So those fair weather fans, I get it.

2156
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 2: I get it right there.

2157
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 1: I think that's it for DMS. Thank you to the folks.

2158
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 1: We got anymore. Know we're more from at Ilia seven

2159
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:28,679
Speaker 1: four five? Does Anthony Joshua own the worst post fight

2160
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: reaction of all time in combat sports after a loss?

2161
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,120
Speaker 1: It was really bad, Rashad. If you had just walked

2162
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 1: out and not done an interview. We would have respected

2163
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 1: it more. But would you say this was worse than

2164
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: Forrest Griffin and Tito Ortiz And the comment during the

2165
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 1: mic our team is offering gaff is offering al Ayah.

2166
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 2: Quinta's like quin but Al's more real.

2167
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 3: But you know what I feel like with Anthony Johnson Joshua,

2168
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 3: I think it was definitely it was definitely the worst.

2169
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 3: I mean, just uh, just raw e motion. He just

2170
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 3: spoke out of raw motion and pure frustration. And you

2171
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:07,920
Speaker 3: know it happens sometimes it does.

2172
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what Ariel's doing tweeting out. Great to

2173
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: see aj being so real. He put ousik over. I mean,

2174
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 1: come on, Eric, what are you doing? Dude?

2175
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 3: Bro?

2176
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 1: What are you doing? All right? All right, there's none

2177
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 1: of that is true, none of that at all. All right.

2178
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 1: Those are the dms from our dongs. Thank you very much.

2179
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:24,600
Speaker 1: Don't forget Wednesdays and Fridays. You can also let your

2180
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: voice be heard Morningcombat at gmail dot com for your

2181
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 1: fan subs. I'm sure we've got a backlog of those

2182
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 1: with Luke out and your dead wrongs, you know, I'm

2183
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 1: sure they've got a long list coming. At me, but Rashad.

2184
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 1: We close this Monday with what we always do, J

2185
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 1: boy BC sky waring the globe for the good, the bad,

2186
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: the ugly, the highs, the lows, the in between, from

2187
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 1: combat sports and beyond. Get ready, I got a load

2188
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 1: of shit here. Have you actually seen it? We're about

2189
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:57,680
Speaker 1: to find out. Oh oh, Rashad UFC two seventy eight

2190
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City. Look at Leon Edwards. I didn't

2191
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,639
Speaker 1: realize this in real time doing the billy strut Vince

2192
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 1: McMahon and Connor McGregor's style. That's a badass way to

2193
01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 1: walk off a win there.

2194
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 3: That's a badass way to walk off the way. But

2195
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 3: it made me just want to jump his ass. It

2196
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:14,719
Speaker 3: made me just want to jump me on there. Words.

2197
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 2: I couldn't stand him at that moment. I couldn't. I

2198
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 2: couldn't stand him at that.

2199
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 3: Moment when he walked off like that, man, it just

2200
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 3: bothered the hell out of me.

2201
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 2: But Big as the.

2202
01:44:24,560 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 1: Head man, so the winner though the spoils. Here's Rocky

2203
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 1: and the post fight meal getting a little pizza dance

2204
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 1: on he He earned this one was shot.

2205
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, he definitely earned a Look at that, Look

2206
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 3: at that pizza.

2207
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 2: Look at choke on that pizza. Look at his ass.

2208
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,160
Speaker 1: Man, such thing as bad sex or pizza in life,

2209
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 1: although I'm sure pizza in the UK has got to

2210
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 1: be just gross.

2211
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean that looks like that looks like cold pizza too.

2212
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: And warm like we're shot. I grew up in I

2213
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 1: didn't realize. I grew up in Connecticut, you know, outside

2214
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 1: of New Haven, outside of New York City, and just

2215
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 1: the pizza hotbed of this earth, outside of maybe Italy.

2216
01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I'm ignorant, but I

2217
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 1: mean Florida ain't got good pizza. You already know that, Rashad.

2218
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 2: I will not debate you there.

2219
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. All right, let's hear this sound.

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01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 1: This is the best ship of the weekend. It's Leon

2221
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:19,600
Speaker 1: Edwards calling his mom immediately after pulling the upset.

2222
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 4: I told you, that's that's just great.

2223
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 2: That's just that's right there. That's a beautiful, beautiful moment.

2224
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 3: No matter if you're behind Leon or not, that moment

2225
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 3: right there, it speaks to the heart of anybody who's

2226
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 3: ever tried anything. You know what I'm saying. It really

2227
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 3: does speak to your heart. Man, that see that was

2228
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:49,599
Speaker 3: a great moment.

2229
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 1: Rashot, You've long done a great impression of Rashad's mom.

2230
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:56,759
Speaker 1: What was her reaction when you won the championship? Shot

2231
01:45:57,760 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 1: you did Shot. I'm so proud of you.

2232
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:00,759
Speaker 5: Be Shot.

2233
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 2: You did good, Shad, you did real good. You listened

2234
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 2: to Joe Rogan, be shot.

2235
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 1: Go back to the hospital and tell them to fuck

2236
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: off because you're the time fighter. Now, all right? There

2237
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 1: you go in exchange in an insane exchange between Vandamwaight's

2238
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 1: Jay Perrin and Aori ky Ling, did I butcher that?

2239
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 1: All I know is they're butchering each other? You see

2240
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 1: this finish to this undercurve fight?

2241
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 3: Jeez, oh my gosh, that fight was a rock em

2242
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 3: socking robot and it was like one of my first

2243
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 3: fights that I walked in and seen of the night

2244
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 3: and it kind of set the tone. I mean, it

2245
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 3: was just amazing and you just thought somebody was going

2246
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 3: to just hit the ground, but these dudes were just

2247
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 3: throwing like it was nobody's.

2248
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 1: Business, throwing leather. They made our show. Shout out to

2249
01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 1: these guys. You know who else made the show, Luke

2250
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 1: rock Hold. I got a lot of Luke rock Hold videos.

2251
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: You had a big week. Here we go, Rashad the

2252
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: stare down at the ceremonial weigh in and look at

2253
01:46:58,320 --> 01:46:59,680
Speaker 1: the phoner or.

2254
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 2: This was Oh is he is he looking at the Oh?

2255
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 2: You know what? You know what's so funny? You know

2256
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 2: what so funny about this?

2257
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Paula is rock hard with emotion.

2258
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 6: I had Bruce Buffer come to me and say, hey,

2259
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 6: have you seen Yeah, you see Paula Costa Like, nah,

2260
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:22,560
Speaker 6: I don't see him, you see it?

2261
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:26,759
Speaker 2: And then he showed me this picture. I had no idea,

2262
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 2: I had no idea. But that's funny, man, that's yeah.

2263
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 1: It looks like egg plant is in season and salt

2264
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: like even look rock holds like damn bro.

2265
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 2: I mean what I mean, what if he just hum

2266
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 2: like that? Though?

2267
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, What if he just look?

2268
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 1: We've seen Connor McGregor at the mayweather Way, and sometimes

2269
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 1: you get so jacked up to fight Rashad that you

2270
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 1: know it's I mean, I I don't, I don't. I've

2271
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 1: had morning wood, but I you know, I don't do

2272
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:51,680
Speaker 1: this before fights for shod you know, but I.

2273
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 3: Mean, hey, maybe it's not a wood them. That's what

2274
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,679
Speaker 3: I'm saying, maybe it's not a wood. Maybe maybe he's

2275
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:57,559
Speaker 3: just blessed. Maybe he's just blessed.

2276
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:02,000
Speaker 1: You only get this kind of analysis morning Combat Rashad.

2277
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 1: Here's the video that everybody's talking about, the the fight

2278
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:10,240
Speaker 1: club scene in real life, Luke rock holed after dramatically

2279
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:15,839
Speaker 1: reversing position, just grimy, rubbing that blood in the eyes

2280
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: of Paulo Costa smiling look at this.

2281
01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was that was That was a

2282
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 3: moment them two actually made up. You know what I'm saying,

2283
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 3: Like they're gonna act like they hate each other, but

2284
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 3: that's that these these two they're gonna end up liking

2285
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 3: each other one day, you know what I'm saying, Like,

2286
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 3: and I feel.

2287
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 1: Like, maybe I mean this is that I don't.

2288
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 2: That's That's what I'm saying.

2289
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 1: Like afterwards, Coasta would say it was disgusting and he

2290
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: took a long shower, but nah, he.

2291
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:45,320
Speaker 2: Was licking up.

2292
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 1: Is the worst we're doing here. Here's my actual favorite

2293
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 1: moment of the fight. It was when rock holed in

2294
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:54,760
Speaker 1: the third round, looked like he was on the verge

2295
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 1: of being stopped it twice, screamed fuck you to the

2296
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 1: face of Costa. And from the depths of hell, uncorked

2297
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 1: the left hand that I think would have knocked most

2298
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 1: people out rare shot if these two weren't cyborgs. What

2299
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: a moment, dude, What a moment.

2300
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 3: What a moment to just say, you know what, fuck

2301
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:15,639
Speaker 3: it all man, And and that's and that's the that's

2302
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 3: what it's about, you know what I'm saying.

2303
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,679
Speaker 2: And when he did that, I'm just like, hell, yeah, Louke,

2304
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 2: you didn't you didn't.

2305
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 3: Win the fight, but you definitely you definitely made an

2306
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 3: impression with Emine War.

2307
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:26,799
Speaker 1: He didn't win the fight, but he took a victory

2308
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 1: tour afterwards. Here's his longtime teammate Daniel Cormier running from

2309
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:33,599
Speaker 1: the announced desk to catch rock Hold on his way

2310
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,559
Speaker 1: out of the arena. Look, this is this is two

2311
01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:38,479
Speaker 1: men justin bracing. And there were a few of these

2312
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 1: videos with with Cheetoh, with everyone else. It's emotional.

2313
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 2: Is very is very emotional.

2314
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 3: I mean those two have been close, you know, since

2315
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,879
Speaker 3: DC got into the UFC, and.

2316
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 2: I know it has to be hard for DC to speak.

2317
01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 3: And and and analyze and you know, and gave his

2318
01:49:58,320 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 3: take when his boys fighting because you're and your chest

2319
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,880
Speaker 3: but uh that that's a good moment. And Luke, aren't

2320
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 3: I respective everybody that Saturday, no doubt.

2321
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,759
Speaker 1: We go back to PFL nine in London. I mentioned

2322
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 1: Featherway Bubba Jenkins, who advanced to the championship, took rioji

2323
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:16,759
Speaker 1: kudo to Soup like City twice.

2324
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 3: Look at this, Oh my gosh, he got air miles

2325
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 3: on that one.

2326
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 1: Quickly took the back after the second toss gets the

2327
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: rear naked choke. But uh, you did have Randy Catur

2328
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: mentioning Rashad that even though this looks great, the amount

2329
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,920
Speaker 1: of energy exerted may not equal the amount of damage given.

2330
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:36,680
Speaker 1: Do you agree with that?

2331
01:50:37,120 --> 01:50:38,599
Speaker 2: I agree?

2332
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 3: You know, in those situations, many times the juice is

2333
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:42,520
Speaker 3: not worth a squeeze.

2334
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 1: Okay, here you go. Let's go to Larisa Pacheco, as

2335
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:49,800
Speaker 1: I mentioned, who also punched her ticket by punching h

2336
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 1: here's the finish she did. I mean, look, she touches people,

2337
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: they go down. This is what happens, you know.

2338
01:50:54,360 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 3: Wh Damn that's power right there, That's that's a lot

2339
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:01,599
Speaker 3: of power. Had to see it from a woman like that.

2340
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 3: Just I mean, that's something rare that you really don't see.

2341
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 3: But that's very impressive.

2342
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 1: Oh, Kayla's like, I gotta take the headset off now,

2343
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 1: isn't she?

2344
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, she got Sarah.

2345
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 3: She felt, she felt that stomach, that feeling inside your

2346
01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:14,600
Speaker 3: stomach when somethingbody, something happens like that.

2347
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 2: That's good, that's good. She's taking notice.

2348
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,919
Speaker 1: And Maurissa's got them throat tats too. I mean, she's aggressive,

2349
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 1: she's going after it. We're gonna throw The sound here

2350
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 1: of Kayla Harrison's post fight promo, in which he specifically

2351
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 1: called out a trio of Brazilian sluggers. Kayla Harrison, she

2352
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 1: was just imploring the crowd, asking is it too much

2353
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,280
Speaker 1: to ask for a US A chance? Are you gonna

2354
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 1: get this crowd to do a USA chant? Hey? What's up? Everybody?

2355
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:41,280
Speaker 5: Loved?

2356
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:45,680
Speaker 1: Who is it?

2357
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 3: You?

2358
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 1: Guys know a couple of.

2359
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 2: Things about Queen's right? You got a queen over here?

2360
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, I'm here to tell you.

2361
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:57,200
Speaker 1: That I am the queen, not a pim bell, not

2362
01:51:57,320 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: a one hundred and fifty five pounds division. I am

2363
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 1: the queen both women's MMA, And if those three Brazilians

2364
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 1: will take out their traps, she's in need me that

2365
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 1: you'd find out all I'm saying, Look one, I mean, sure,

2366
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 1: it's nice, but I don't think those three Brazilians are

2367
01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 1: running from her necessarily. Pacheco's gonna fight her next. I mean, Cyborg,

2368
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:29,680
Speaker 1: is you gotta get to put the money out there

2369
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 1: and sign the contract?

2370
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:34,080
Speaker 3: Right, Hey, listen, it's not about what's real, It's about

2371
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 3: what people perceive is real.

2372
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 2: You can say anything is real.

2373
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 6: You know.

2374
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 3: I learned it from Jail Chill. Just say anything. Sometimes

2375
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, and sometimes they yeah, I was.

2376
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 3: I was making it up. So I mean, but they

2377
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 3: don't know. You know what I'm saying. People don't know

2378
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:48,400
Speaker 3: unless they look into it. So as far as the

2379
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 3: world's concerned, there's three people running from her, all.

2380
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 1: Right, Well, she would go on to call them all out.

2381
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:56,519
Speaker 1: It's Pachaco, it's newness, it's Cyborg. For her sake. I

2382
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: hope sooner than later she can get a huge fight.

2383
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: But she's gotta get past Larissa first. We'll find that out.

2384
01:53:01,880 --> 01:53:04,839
Speaker 1: I do like Kala's turn into the pro wrestling demeanor

2385
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 1: of the last two seasons, probably Dan Lambert fueled. But uh,

2386
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's getting her attention. It's working. She

2387
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 1: just became the self appointed queen of MMA there in London.

2388
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: Let's go over to Mike boone of MMA. Junkie caught

2389
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:20,799
Speaker 1: up with this UFC super fan wearing the Joe Rogan

2390
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 1: Kalas shirt in Salt Lake City. Rashot, can we get

2391
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 1: you outfitted in this?

2392
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:27,680
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, look at that? Look at that. That's

2393
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 2: a lot of Joe Rogan right there.

2394
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, that's that's a little Yeah, there's a lot

2395
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:36,599
Speaker 1: of Indeed, that's a fashion statement, a real recognizing reel

2396
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:40,360
Speaker 1: this weekend in the Parking Garage as Jamal Hill, maybe

2397
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 1: the UFC's finest basketball player, running into the Hitman Thomas hearns.

2398
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 1: You know, I pop for this type of crossworld respect

2399
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:48,599
Speaker 1: for shod.

2400
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the two Michigan natives. That's that's cool, man,

2401
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 3: that's real cool. I've ran into hit Man a couple

2402
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 3: of times, but I mean Jamal Hill, I mean, you know,

2403
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 3: he's turned into that guy and now every he started

2404
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 3: to take notice.

2405
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 1: Indeed, let's have some fun, rough and rowdy style R

2406
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 1: and R eighteen from West Virginia barstool putting on there

2407
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:12,639
Speaker 1: their recurring scene of fat Guy's falling over the ropes.

2408
01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 1: Look at this stop sloppy, you know, they like, I'm

2409
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 1: extra sloppy. Look at big cat there.

2410
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 2: No, that's like some ass juices sweat coming on. Just

2411
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 2: just messy, just.

2412
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 1: Slop, just gross. We also had a vicious knockdown here.

2413
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 1: Check out this white guy diving into it. It always

2414
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: looks fake. It's so sloppy, you know, it looks a

2415
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:42,360
Speaker 1: little bit fake. But here we go. Oh oh boy, oh.

2416
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 2: Oh, but how do you get up like that?

2417
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 3: Look at he was like he was stiff all the

2418
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 3: way down and like bounce right back off. That's unbelievable.

2419
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 1: I think he used his face to check the punch chick.

2420
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 1: You know, yes, great, wow. I mean they know their

2421
01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 1: democra effect. They go right to West Virginia for these cards.

2422
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 1: They know what they're doing there. B KFC in London.

2423
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 1: Here's an undercard moment for you. Franco Tanaglia with the

2424
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: sick counter left hand.

2425
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 3: Oh oh wow, wow, that was nasty left hand.

2426
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 1: That was it? That count.

2427
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 2: Right?

2428
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's looking for a way out now.

2429
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 2: Wow boy, he looking for everything.

2430
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:26,600
Speaker 1: He looking rashad. We probably should have knew who was

2431
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 1: gonna win this. Mike Perry MVP fight. By this interview

2432
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 1: that that uh Perry gave during fight week, here we go.

2433
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I try to keep it real, you know.

2434
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 5: I remember my dad used to say he a thousand

2435
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 5: and er in the street, and I give anybody the

2436
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 5: benefit of the doubt. Anybody can win at any given time.

2437
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 5: A lot of these guys, you know, if I'm not looking,

2438
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 5: I'm at the bar and you hit me in my face.

2439
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 5: I see a lot of videos of old man taking

2440
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 5: out young dudes, and people talk shit about me because

2441
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 5: that old man came at me and I swatted his ass.

2442
01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 5: I swatted a few people in these streets. These hands

2443
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 5: is bisexual, motherfucker. They everything. Anybody can get, any gender.

2444
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 5: Anybody can get this ship at any given time. Because

2445
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 5: I don't trust nobody. Anybody get too close to me.

2446
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 5: It's going down like that.

2447
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 2: But you know, I.

2448
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:22,320
Speaker 7: Mean, Rashad, while I won't advocate hitting women, although he

2449
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 7: said anybody can get it, his hands are very progressive.

2450
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta get him that.

2451
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 2: You know, Wow, he's got equal opportunitist hands. That's that's

2452
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 2: that's that's one hell of a statement. But Mike Perry

2453
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 2: is so good. I love man. He's he's so hood.

2454
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:39,840
Speaker 2: It's just in him. John.

2455
01:56:40,240 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 1: He once said he's two percent African American rashada, which

2456
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 1: would allow him to.

2457
01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 3: I think, I think like he may have got raised

2458
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 3: by a black family, you know, like a boy.

2459
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the movie The Jerk with Steve Martin.

2460
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got raised by a black family himself.

2461
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 3: Man, something, some something's gotta explain this, Something has to explain.

2462
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 1: Shout out to the maca maclay for that clip that

2463
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 1: was Perry before the fight. He's here's Perry afterwards. Look

2464
01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 1: at this still shot. So you want to be a

2465
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 1: bare knuckle fighter? Good?

2466
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 2: Wow? Look at that face.

2467
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 1: Looking that h Well, Perry got the win in ot

2468
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 1: so who'd he call out? Let's hear it, Jake Paul.

2469
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 5: You need an opponent, you need the money fight.

2470
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm the real money fight.

2471
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:30,680
Speaker 5: Maybe I'll put the pillows back on if you scared

2472
01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 5: to get in here?

2473
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,400
Speaker 1: Uh rashot is this a money opportunity here for Jake

2474
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 1: Paul that they should take or what.

2475
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 2: Jake Paul should definitely not do no shit like that. Listen, listen.

2476
01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes people are just too rough, Okay, Like, look, it

2477
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 3: ain't worth it, Jake, don't don't go it ain't it

2478
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 3: ain't worth it, It ain't worth it, don't do it.

2479
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 1: No Perry is that dude. He found his home here

2480
01:57:57,120 --> 01:58:02,200
Speaker 1: in BKFC. And here is his post fight celebration dance backstage.

2481
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 1: You can criticized his moves all you want. He earned it.

2482
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 2: Look at it, Yes, look at that he got that.

2483
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 2: Look at him. That's one just shabby money dance. The

2484
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 2: money dance right there.

2485
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:15,880
Speaker 1: Coach Lotty was in the ring afterwards weekend.

2486
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:16,960
Speaker 2: At Bernie's and everything too.

2487
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. Speaking of Jake Paul, he made the

2488
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:24,760
Speaker 1: rounds in South Florida, your territory went down to Marlins Stadium.

2489
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 1: Here's Jake Paul taking batting practice for shot. Your thoughts

2490
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 1: on his technique, Yeah, the one and the oka.

2491
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 2: It seem it seemed like he's not swinging all the

2492
01:58:41,200 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 2: way though.

2493
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 1: It seems like his Yeah, he's doing like a like

2494
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 1: a two strike contact.

2495
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's kind of like he's not really putting his

2496
01:58:47,920 --> 01:58:48,560
Speaker 3: hips into it.

2497
01:58:49,040 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 1: You gotta go, yeah the hipstone, lie, Jake, you got

2498
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 1: to go all in NFL preseason rashot always gives us

2499
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:57,040
Speaker 1: good moments like fan fights. But check out this Denver

2500
01:58:57,080 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 1: Broncos fan who yelled out a warrior cry, and then.

2501
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 2: I would have died. I would have died.

2502
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:15,720
Speaker 3: I had a friend actually throw up on me after

2503
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:17,600
Speaker 3: he took his shot, and it was something like that.

2504
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:20,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to kill his ass. But that's unacceptable.

2505
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 1: Obviously, that's not the Denver Broncos. That's a different Broncos team.

2506
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 1: I butchered that one, so dead wrong me in the moment,

2507
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 1: but that guy just dead wronged himself. You gotta love that. Wow, hey, shot?

2508
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 1: How about some pelic hot dog love?

2509
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 3: Right?

2510
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 1: That fits the segment. You know some people say, oh

2511
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:40,080
Speaker 1: my god, oh man, you gotta break it before you

2512
01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 1: bite it. But this guy going all in.

2513
01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful with the glizzy sticks. You don't

2514
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 2: want to have a glizzy that big in your mouth.

2515
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:52,120
Speaker 1: Well he was aggressive and he went after it. But

2516
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go all in, you might as well

2517
01:59:53,960 --> 02:00:02,680
Speaker 1: go all all in. Let's see this next fella. Wow Wow?

2518
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 1: Is that a wow?

2519
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:05,280
Speaker 3: Wow?

2520
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: You know I got a long history with hot dogs.

2521
02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:14,160
Speaker 1: I've never tried that movie. Let's see. Okay, shot, find it.

2522
02:00:14,400 --> 02:00:17,080
Speaker 1: You're happily married, man, Find a woman who loves you

2523
02:00:17,120 --> 02:00:19,400
Speaker 1: as much as this lady in the Walmart parking lot

2524
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:24,520
Speaker 1: does look at this show of affection of Oda. Oh

2525
02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:34,880
Speaker 1: my gosh, she smells like love. Rashot smells like love.

2526
02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:42,240
Speaker 4: Wow wow, wow, Oh my gosh, crack hills where I

2527
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:42,760
Speaker 4: come from.

2528
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:45,960
Speaker 3: But not shaking everybody's hands, you.

2529
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:54,160
Speaker 1: Know, all right? A happy birthday is out to a

2530
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:56,520
Speaker 1: a great pair of Polish twins. How about you Wanna

2531
02:00:56,640 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 1: Champion and her twin sister Kashia celebrating thirty five on

2532
02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 1: the IG this week. Let's let that four goa.

2533
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 2: You want to have a twin sister.

2534
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:15,040
Speaker 1: I know I only found this out last year. Yeah,

2535
02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:17,320
Speaker 1: Luke was here, we wouldn't be able to celebrate this,

2536
02:01:17,480 --> 02:01:20,440
Speaker 1: but you know, enjoy retirement, Yoanna, you earned it, all right.

2537
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:23,760
Speaker 1: Then shout out to her sister as well. Uh Usik

2538
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:27,000
Speaker 1: Joshua too from Saudi the co main event, Callum Smith

2539
02:01:27,200 --> 02:01:29,600
Speaker 1: is back. Look at this left hook in round four,

2540
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:34,839
Speaker 1: sending Matthew baderlink to uh the bottom floor.

2541
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, he just deleted his access He.

2542
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:43,400
Speaker 1: Did, he did, he did, all right. Let's go over

2543
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:46,280
Speaker 1: to Anthony Joshua having a full on meltdown. As I mentioned,

2544
02:01:46,280 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 1: here's a little snippet of it if you missed it,

2545
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 1: little snippet, he drops the belts. There's a lot of

2546
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:58,480
Speaker 1: shit on the mo. Look at Husick looking at him

2547
02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:00,760
Speaker 1: like you come on, bro, come on, come on.

2548
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah there we go see see at that moment, Usak

2549
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:06,160
Speaker 3: had a look in his eyes like I'm not about

2550
02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:07,200
Speaker 3: to fight his dude for real?

2551
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, he lost his ship. There's no doubt we mentioned.

2552
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:14,040
Speaker 1: Does Tyson Fury have interest? Well, he put out a

2553
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Speaker 1: video immediately after the fight. Let's hear from the Big

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Speaker 1: Gypsy himself.

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Speaker 2: In ring Liz back in the ring.

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Speaker 1: That is first, Alexander Husicks his backstage message for Tyson Fury.

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Speaker 1: I was in the wrong order. Yes, please get back

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Speaker 1: in the ring.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know. Husik also has a great catchphrase, and they

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Speaker 1: caught him in the Saudi Arabia airport on the way

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Speaker 1: out of Jetta asking him how he feels.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear it, chump chump, how do you feel? And he.

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Speaker 1: Chump h rash. The champ is very feel, which is

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Speaker 1: I'm brand for him. And I've always.

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Speaker 3: Looked so surprised though he always looked like he just

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Speaker 3: like he's just like I don't know how to make

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Speaker 3: my eyes do that, but he always looks he's dude, he's.

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Speaker 1: A he's a comedian, he's a joker. This guy's the best. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: get to know him on Instagram. Here is Tyson Fury.

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Speaker 1: I think he was liquored up, but here's his reaction

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Speaker 1: to the foot.

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Speaker 2: I have to watch you not that.

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Speaker 1: Both of them were shite.

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Speaker 8: It was one of the last semiwey title fights I

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Speaker 8: have ever same he was bullshaped, shot like that.

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Speaker 1: Shine. You gotta love you some, Tyson Fury. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: close out here with a couple more shout out to

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Speaker 1: these truckers, the real soldiers out there on eighteen wheels

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Speaker 1: keeping our country safe, strong and well supplied. But sometimes Rashad.

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Speaker 1: You know, you flip a trucker off, you better be

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Speaker 1: ready to throw hands.

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Speaker 3: Look at this.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, let the action beget Look at these.

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Speaker 1: Guys, man, Look at that orange crush going out.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, buddy, get off your feet.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Oh wow that his hands today?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my gosh, I love it.

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Speaker 1: Rashd we no, no, no elder abuse today. But we

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Speaker 1: do have young kids getting hurt. Where's the parental control

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Speaker 1: on this? Please? This went from happy to Sad in

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Speaker 1: the quick second.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I hurt because he's doing I got

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Speaker 2: a pet dance.

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Speaker 1: Stupid games, get stupid pride. There you go, man, finally

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Speaker 1: here's your knockout of the weak muy Thai style.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what go?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 1: You know that kind of looks like how Leon set

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Speaker 1: that kick up? Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Wow? Wow? He looked like he is dead for real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Good news is they revived him and I think

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Speaker 1: he was the the uber driver that brought everybody home.

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Speaker 1: So shout out to that guy. That's the end of

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Speaker 1: the ship for the week. Rashode. We we did over

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Speaker 1: two hours one of the time.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, time went by fast.

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Speaker 1: We can follow Morning Combat and Sugar Rashad Evans at

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Speaker 1: these fine handles below. If you like what you're here

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Speaker 1: on this show, subscribe like the video. Rashad, where can

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Speaker 1: we see you? You got a tight ten coming up

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Speaker 1: at the comedy store anytime soon?

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Speaker 3: No, I do not, but you can check me out

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Speaker 3: on Instagram. I'll be on there posting more stuff. But

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Speaker 3: everybody think I appreciate.

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Speaker 1: You, Raschard. You once talked about a colon cleanse you

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Speaker 1: were into. I'm thinking about getting the MK doc cameras

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Speaker 1: and just releasing all that shit that's caught up inside

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Speaker 1: of me. You think it could really make a change

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Speaker 1: in my life.

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Speaker 2: Hey, BC, you do a colon pledge. Youre gona fleck

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Speaker 2: a new man. You new man. You're gonna have a

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Speaker 2: new muffler. You're gonna have a new muffler. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: sound better when you fart. All of that, man is

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Speaker 2: gonna be way better.

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Speaker 1: After years of swallowing hot dogs, hole shot, It's time

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Speaker 1: the BC shout out to our great team Showtime. You

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Speaker 1: can get thirty days free right now, the great belatur

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Speaker 1: and boxing and so much more Showtime dot Com. Enjoy that.

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Speaker 1: Get our merch. We want you wearing this around town.

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Speaker 1: Morningcombat dot Store representing right there. Shout out to uh

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Speaker 1: Phil McKagan, our good buddy from South You know Phil,

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Speaker 1: you know coach Phil?

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Speaker 2: I do know Phil? I do no Phil?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that got our guy, associate head coach of University

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Speaker 1: of Colorado football. He said he just got his new

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Speaker 1: MK shipman in love that guy right there, and love

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Speaker 1: the fans out there. Thank you. Luke Thomas back this week.

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Speaker 1: We're shot. It's been great running up and down the

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Speaker 1: Road with.

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Speaker 2: You BC is always a pleasure man. Love the energy,

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Speaker 2: love the comedy, love it altogether man.

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Speaker 1: As you can see on the lower third of final reminder,

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Speaker 1: if you love us, help us win an award. How

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Speaker 1: about you go to world MMA Awards dot com slash

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Speaker 1: nominees or scan the QR code below. For the second

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Speaker 1: straight year, we are up against Rogan, all the big hitters,

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Speaker 1: Dana White. But we find a way, rashad, We find

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Speaker 1: a frickin way. That's the show for this week. We

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Speaker 1: love you all, Thank you so much. Two words on

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Speaker 1: the way out we out enjoy it. Thank you