1 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to jags Am. It is Monday, December eleventh. I'm 2 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: Tinani Stevens here with Brian Sexton and John Oser. Were 3 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: doing a little vintage in the old drivetime studios and 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: the post game studios today for jags Am as we get. 5 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: Ready to go over. 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, a game that was not great for the Jaguars 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: in many facets yesterday as they fell to the Browns. Brian, 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: I know, we talked about a lot of situations. We're 9 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: talking a lot about whether Trevor was going to play. 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Trevor did play, but there was a lot of other issues. 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, the most obvious one to me was just the 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: lack of timing. And you see how important practices for players, 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: especially young players, only in his third season and trying 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: to figure it out. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I'm frankly not quite sure it 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 4: was Trevor's timing as much as receivers go in the 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: wrong way. And then on defense, it's just bust after 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: bust after bust. They would play good for a couple 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,279 Speaker 4: of series and then have a huge play. The Browns 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 4: are really good at home. Yeah, the Jaguars made it 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 4: way too easy for that good team to win. 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: Sure, did. 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: Let's go over some of our big things here today. 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: Big thing number one is Trevor tried. 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 2: He definitely tried. 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: We talked all week about whether he was going to 27 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: play or not. He went out there, he felt good, 28 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: he played well, said the ankle did not affect him. 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: But as we mentioned, he didn't. 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: Practice all week very much, if if at all, and 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: didn't get that timing down with these receivers. Obviously no excuses, 32 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: but a lot of miscommunication. 33 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 5: There's too many miscommunications. You know, we've been playing, we've 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 5: been playing together for. 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 6: A while now, and that's on us, and we got 36 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 6: to take some accountability, you know, for cleaning that up. 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 5: And that's just stuff that can't happen, you know, for 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 5: both of us. 39 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 6: You know, we got to be on the same page. 40 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 6: And there it seemed like all those plays that we 41 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 6: weren't you know, some week you're able to get away 42 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 6: with it and it doesn't bite you. It seemed like 43 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 6: this week they all did turned into turnovers or or 44 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 6: or bad plays or whatever. You know, So we gotta 45 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 6: we all gotta kind of take accountability and look in 46 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 6: the mirror and you know there's stuff that you know, 47 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 6: I didn't do well today, and then just in general, 48 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 6: we all have to communicate better. 49 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 2: With communication. 50 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: We talked about it being an issue for the defense, Brian, 51 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: but it was the offense yesterday. 52 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 3: John. This is where you felt the absence of Christian Kirk. 53 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: I mean, it was clear that he was missing from 54 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: the offense because there was just the guy that that 55 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: Trevor can throw blindly to turn without looking and know 56 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: where he's going to be. And it played out not 57 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: just in those deep down the field shots that it 58 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: always seems Kirk is underneath, but in the third down 59 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: percentage you know that they couldn't move the chains consistently 60 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: because he couldn't get rid of the ball under pressure. 61 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he clearly has timing with Evan, who was 62 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: really good, really good. And the shame of it is 63 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 4: again I go back to you turned the ball over 64 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: four times and you gave them three easy plays on 65 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 4: defense and you still only lost by four. I mean, 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: you know, so this is one where they can really 67 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: look in the mirror and know that those big moments, 68 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: it's just not supposed to be that easy in the NFL, 69 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: its score. 70 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: Touchdowns, No it's not. And you did it with your 71 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: backup to the backup to the backup of the left tackle. 72 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: I mean, Blake kans Is out there lined up against 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett and he did okay, right, he got some help, 74 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: but he held his own. You did it without fully 75 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: font Coassi in the middle of your defense, and without 76 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: Christian Kirk. I mean, except for a couple of mistakes 77 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: here and there, you gave yourself a chance to win 78 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: despite the fact that it didn't look on a surface 79 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: level like you had much of a chance to win 80 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: based on the injury list. 81 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: Well, the interesting thing, or it's interesting or frustrating, whatever 82 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: you gonna call it. They were decimated in the secondary. 83 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 4: You know, you're down no Trey Hearnd and no Tyson Campbell. 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 4: Six goes in and out. But the breakdowns, two of 85 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: them are on linebackers. So it really wasn't necessarily that 86 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: they went right after these spots where the Jaguars were hurt. 87 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 4: It was just you had huge breaks, huge missed assignments 88 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: that caused successful plays to become uber successful plays and 89 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 4: touchdowns the kind that you wind up. 90 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: On NFL Network with the first Touchdowntoku djoku and the 91 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: second one or the last one to David Bell were 92 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 3: both that what happened there. 93 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: Well, so it was the second one I mean, I 94 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: mean touchdowns, Yes, was the same thing. 95 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 7: You caught the ball five yards wide open. 96 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 4: There was some stat that no receiver has been that 97 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 4: wide open for two touchdowns since you know, the fifties. 98 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 4: I mean they started throwing the ball. I'm exaggerating, but 99 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 4: it h Look season's not over, but you can't have games. 100 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 7: It's too bad. That could have been a hero game. Yeah. 101 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: And even as much as as Trevor's timing was off 102 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 4: and I thought the ankle affected his accuracy at times, 103 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 4: there were plays that you think, you know, may didn't 104 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: make that, uh, but he getted it out and it 105 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: probably should have been enough to. 106 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: Win some of those mistakes by the lake. 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: That's our second big thing because as you mentioned, some 108 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: of those touchdowns given up to the rounds were wide 109 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: open plays for them. And of course the turnovers three 110 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: interceptions for Trevor Lawrence fumbled by Parker Washington, all that 111 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: just to disconnect. 112 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: As far as Doug Peterson's concerned. 113 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 8: I think offensively we were a little disconnected. You know, 114 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 8: Trevor and the receivers were a little off. 115 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 5: You know, we had opportunities to. 116 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 8: Make plays in the first half didn't Obviously, the turnovers, 117 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 8: you know, are are big and you can't you can't 118 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 8: do that. You know, we had a little success early 119 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 8: run in the football, you know, were some of the 120 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 8: things we did to keep them off balanced, but just overall, 121 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 8: just not not enough plays made, you know, too many 122 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 8: self inflicted wounds. You know that that kept us from 123 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 8: sustaining drives or you know, staying on the field. 124 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: John. 125 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Two of those interceptions for Trevor, the ball was headed 126 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley's way. They looked like they weren't not on 127 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: the same page, not in the same book, even if 128 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: you want to put it that way. 129 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: What was going on there. 130 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 3: I don't know. 131 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 4: I don't know because I'm not in players heads. It 132 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: appeared on the first one there was the interception where 133 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: the defender intercepted of the ear line and the names 134 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 4: escaped me. I was constantly more in the Jaguars. Calvin 135 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: didn't look for the ball. On the second one, when 136 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 4: Trevor threw deep, it appeared that Calvin stopped and then 137 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: realized what was coming to him and then continued running. 138 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 7: That's how it looked on film. 139 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 3: But it looked like as if the ball was over 140 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: his outside shoulder and that he had turned inside on 141 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: the one, the second one, the diving one you're talking about. Yes, Yeah, 142 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: it looked like he was he was running the wrong 143 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 3: route right, and he didn't look for the ball. 144 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 145 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 4: So because when it came back Trevor was pointing in 146 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 4: his eyes to me, it said, look for the ball. 147 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: Look. 148 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 7: I'm sure a lot of that is timing. 149 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: As Doug said after the game, there was no practice 150 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: of any significance for Trevor. So as a result, you 151 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: haven't repped those plays to be ready for it. The 152 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: other side of that is you're fourteen games in. There 153 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: should be some muscle memory there. 154 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Although you know, Doug and Trevor both talked in 155 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: the postgame about having played enough football together that they 156 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: should have better communication. But it's pretty clear that they don't. 157 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: I mean, there's been a lot of moments this year 158 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 3: where that has been off. Say Jones comes back in right, 159 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, it starts to look like 160 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: it's supposed to look. Then Christian Kirk goes out and 161 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: say Jones is having to deal with other things, and 162 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, yesterday didn't look like it was there. 163 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: So there's still more time on task that needs to 164 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: take place between the quarterback and zero in order to 165 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: get where they want to be. What are they now? 166 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: Fourteen games into this thing. You'd hope that it would be. 167 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: Thirteen games into this thing, you'd hope it would be 168 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: clearly it's not yet. 169 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: I think frustrating, I'm sure for fans as well to 170 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: watch that knowing that you need someone to step up 171 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: because Christian Kirk isn't there, and then having those mistakes 172 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: with players that have been out there the whole season 173 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: so tough to see. Now, who's desperate? Now? Is our 174 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: final big thing? Our big thing number three? Because they've 175 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: gone up against the Jaguars, have gone up against some 176 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: desperate teams as of late that needed a win to 177 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: stay in the playoff on and now that's kind of 178 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: the position there. And they've got the Baltimore Ravens coming 179 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: in on Sunday Night football, and then this division has 180 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: not been locked up by any means, So that's something 181 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: they're a little bit going to be a little bit 182 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: desperate about this week. 183 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 6: Something needs to be said. I'll say it to them 184 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 6: while it's on the field and try to do it 185 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 6: in the most respectful way, because I never want to 186 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 6: look like I'm point in the finger. But also there's 187 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 6: stuff that needs to be fixed, and same thing for 188 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 6: those guys that can tell them to me and talk 189 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 6: to me if I'm not doing something right, if they're 190 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 6: thinking I'm going to put the ball here and I 191 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 6: put it there, we got to clean that up. 192 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 5: So it's full circle and those guys understand it. 193 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 6: And that's something that we've created where we're gonna have 194 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 6: accountability if you're not doing their job, whether that's me, 195 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 6: whether that's Zay Calvin, Christian Evan, anybody. You got to 196 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 6: your job and we understand that, and you're not gonna 197 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 6: win if you don't. 198 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: Brian, it's frustrating because it feels like self inflicted things 199 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: that they're doing wrong. So does that mean they should 200 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: be able to change it on Sunday. 201 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: Well, you'd like to think so that. Look, the Niners 202 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: came in here, they lost three in a row, and 203 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: they were desperate to re establish themselves and they played 204 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 3: with great energy. It was clear from the beginning of 205 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: that game that the Niners played with more intensity than 206 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: the Jaguars. I don't think that's an arguable point. And 207 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: then yesterday they got a Browns team they had lost 208 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: back to back and they felt like things were getting 209 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: away from them and the injuries, and at least in 210 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: the first quarter on the first two or three series, 211 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: they played with great energy. And I realized the JAG's 212 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: energy level was gonna be a little different because they 213 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: were just trying to figure things out with who's in 214 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: the lineup and how can the quarterback perform it high 215 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: level and all of that stuff. But man, they brought it. 216 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: They were at home, they had lost too in a row. 217 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: They knew they needed to put the flag in the 218 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: ground and say no more. And that's what the Jaguars 219 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: need to do because you've got the Ravens coming in 220 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: and look, John, they got the gift yesterday that the 221 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: Jets clobbered the Texans and that the Bengals did the 222 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: same to the Colts, and so they still have that 223 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 3: one game margin, but you can't count on that. The 224 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: Jaguars have to come out with great intensity on Sunday 225 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: against the Ravens. 226 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't think the Jaguars are desperate. They 227 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 4: need to have better urgency for perspective. I thought the 228 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: Jaguars were about eleven ish twelve ish win team this year. 229 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm not sure they're gonna beat the Baltimore Raves. I 230 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: think Baltimore Ravens might be the best team in the AFC. 231 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: I think they'll win their last three. I think they'll 232 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: finished eleven and six. I think they'll win the division. 233 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 4: To me, this is sort of what I expected them 234 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: to be right now. They are going through a patch 235 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 4: that often hits teams. Didn't hit it really hit him 236 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: last year. You're in you're trying to figure things out 237 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 4: after being injured, You're fighting through that Cleveland game was 238 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 4: always going to be tough. Yeah, they're inconsistent on the road. 239 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 4: They're really good at home, and they're a really good 240 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 4: pass defense, which played into what the Jaguars weren't doing well. 241 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: They have earned their cushion. There's still really a game 242 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 4: and a half of because of the tie breaks. If 243 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: they play to their potential, they can do this. But 244 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 4: this is my hot take, so I won't completely burn it, 245 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: but they got to start doing that. 246 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: To be clear, there is a difference between being desperate 247 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: and feeling desperate, and that's what I think they need 248 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: to be on Sunday is to have that energy level 249 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 3: that comes from no more. We've got to draw the 250 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: line in the sand right here. We've got to avoid 251 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: the mistakes. If you have bumbles at the bank, right 252 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: instead of mistakes by the lake, if we're talking about 253 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: that next Monday, then that's the problem, right. 254 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: And I think it's the trends as well. Right, they 255 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: were inconsistent at the beginning last season. They reeled off 256 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: all those wins in a row. You get that, you know, 257 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: kind of feeling where things are coming together for you. 258 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: But now I think also the way that they're losing 259 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: some of these games, it's things that are repeated mistakes 260 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: or issues that we didn't expect, right. We expected this 261 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: offense to be able to do a lot of things, 262 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: but then to have communication issues in Week fourteen with 263 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: receivers you played with all year, that's weird to see, 264 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: or just you know, miscommunications in the secondary that we've 265 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: seen all season long. 266 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: So I think some of those things are strange. 267 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: And obviously when it's repeated mistakes, they don't have answers 268 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: for it because they know that it's been a problem. 269 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: And it's really telling because if you make mistakes and 270 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: shoot yourself in the foot. A backup named Jake Browning, 271 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: who's making his first ever road start, his second ever start, 272 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 3: can thrash you, which he did at Joe Flacco, who's 273 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: about to turn thirty nine, who you know famously last 274 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: week told people I was sitting on my parents' couch 275 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: watching football. Then he comes in and throws for three 276 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: hundred yards and they get thirty points on you. If 277 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: you don't play your best football right now, which Doug 278 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: alluded to in the post game, then these backup quarterbacks 279 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: can come and throw it at you. 280 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: They did, all right, Stay with us coming up after 281 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: the break here on Jagsam, we're gonna go over some 282 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: of the highlights from yesterday and the plays that we remember. 283 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: After break. 284 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: It's presented by Forever BET's Animal Hospital. Your pet will 285 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: receive access to exclusive merchandise, events and sweepstakes throughout the 286 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three season. This is Jaguars dot Com Slash 287 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: Promotion Slash four Leggeds fan club to sign up today. 288 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 6: You know that's saying about this league. No one really 289 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 6: cares who you're missing. There's a lot of teams missing 290 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 6: players at this point. In the season, but percent obviously 291 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 6: missed Christian. He's you know, one of our best players 292 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 6: and makes a huge impact, you know, on this offense 293 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 6: and this team, so of course you miss him and 294 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 6: you know Christians on IR you know, we gotta we 295 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 6: gotta find a way to still win games without them. 296 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 5: So that's not going to change in the next few weeks. 297 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 6: So we got to figure we gotta find a way, 298 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 6: and I got all the confidence that we will. But 299 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 6: you know, this week, we gotta you know, we gotta 300 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: go to work, we gotta, we gotta get better, we 301 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 6: gotta communicat we got to get on the same page. 302 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 6: You know, just too many, too many mistakes. 303 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 2: That's right. 304 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: No one feels bad for you in the National Football League, 305 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Kay, Nannie Stevens, Brian Sex, and John 306 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: Osier here with us is we're going to go over 307 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: some of the plays from yesterday, highlights and low lights 308 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: of course, of just what went down in Cleveland. Now, 309 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: one of the highlights I would say for the day 310 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: was Evan Ingram and what he's been able to do. 311 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: I guess the last two games really and obviously early 312 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: on took advantage. They were able to force a turnover 313 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: on defense or Cooper's fumble there early. I'm not sure 314 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: what he was doing, trying to switch the switch hands 315 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: with the ball or something like that, but the Jaguars 316 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: were able to get it recovered in the red zone, 317 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: giving them a good opportunity. And then Evan Ingram he 318 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: had a day. 319 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: You know, the takeaways yesterday were the way the defense 320 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: played early this season where they built that cushion that 321 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: you talked about, John, and it was good to see. 322 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: You know, do we get in there and knock that 323 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: ball free. That's what gave the Jaguars a chance to 324 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: stay in it at a moment that it looked like 325 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: it could get away from a bast I mean at 326 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 3: it gave him two short field scoring opportunities with an 327 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: injured quarterback and a makeshift offensive line against the number 328 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: one defense in football. You're gonna need the exact same 329 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: thing against the Ravens, who lead the league in pressure, 330 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: and on Sunday night are going to come in here 331 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: or chase your quarterback and we don't know what the 332 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: offensive line looks like. You're gonna have to get more takeaways. 333 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's such a league of moments and plays. 334 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: The defense played okay yesterday except for three awful plays, 335 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: so that means they didn't play well in the NFL. 336 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 4: They played with heart, they played with guts. Evan aingern 337 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 4: to me. He is having a great year and he 338 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: is the reason the Jaguars offense is able to at 339 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 4: least function without much of a running game. I consider 340 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: Evan's stats right now sort of this supplement to the 341 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: running game because Trevor's been able to throw short to 342 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 4: him and Evan can get seven or eight yards and 343 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 4: keep them in at least a manageable down and distance. 344 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 4: Without him, this would really feel like a clunky, running, 345 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: gameless offense right now. So he's saving it on that front. 346 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: That chemistry that go to ability. Is that enough, I 347 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: don't know, But right now that's the way I see 348 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 4: him contributing to the offense in a big way, and 349 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: that's critical. 350 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: The Jaguars also turning the ball over yesterday a couple 351 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: of interceptions from Trevor but also fumble from Parker Washington, 352 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: which set up good field position for. 353 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: The Browns in this game as well. 354 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: And as much as we talked about the Jaguars getting 355 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: it in the red zone, when you turn things over 356 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: on your half the field and give the Browns short 357 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: field as well. They took advantage of that, running up 358 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: the score early, and it felt it was a close 359 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: game by points, but it felt that this was the 360 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: point where it started to feel like it was getting away. 361 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but There's did a nice job yesterday, and it 362 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 4: was impressive in a way, encouraging in a way that 363 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: it felt a couple of times like he was getting away, 364 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 4: and they figured out a way to stay in it. 365 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 4: And I was almost laughing in the fourth quarter when 366 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: they got the ball back with a chance to tie, 367 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 4: and I was thinking, if they win this game, what 368 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 4: an incredible effort because you tried so hard to give 369 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 4: it away. Unfortunately then they didn't do that, but it 370 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: did show fight. I don't think there's any quit yes, 371 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: say well enough. 372 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: Moving on another I'll say silver lining bright spot of 373 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: the day is we got to see a little bit 374 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: more of Antonio Johnson, probably because of the injuries we've 375 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: been dealing with, but he got a stripsack and just 376 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: his play. We know they kind of would like him 377 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: to play Nickel at some point. They want to see 378 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: more of him, and there's flashes there and that's what 379 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: you want to see in that position group, especially when 380 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: you're dealing with some injuries. 381 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: Right That's the play that john was talking about where 382 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: it felt like the game was getting away from them 383 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 3: and uh oh, all of a sudden, now they're going 384 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: to be back deep to throw and Miles Garrett is 385 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: going to come after the quarterback. And yet it was 386 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 3: the Jaguars that got that play done. What a play 387 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: that we've been waiting for that kid because his hamstring injury, 388 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 3: he was slowed into the season and now with you know, 389 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: yesterday Cisco and Rayshawn out of the game, it's really 390 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 3: nice to have a young talented player at that position 391 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: that you can put on the field. 392 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 7: And say something here. 393 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: But here's something too about Travis Etn who end up 394 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 4: scoring on that play. 395 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 7: It's got to earn every inch right now. I mean, 396 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 7: you know it's. 397 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 4: Not real great interior push again, he made something out 398 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 4: of nothing here. Yeah, I think Jaguars want to see 399 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 4: more out of Antonio Johnson. I think he's the starter 400 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: next year. I think he's going to be. I think 401 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 4: they wanted to be a key part of it. He 402 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 4: he looks to me again like a guy who can 403 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 4: fill that role. Good to see him do that yesterday. Again, 404 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: I keep going back to the defense. As much as 405 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 4: things got away from them in certain plays, they did 406 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: enough to keep them in it late, and I think 407 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 4: that's something that at least gives you hope for this 408 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 4: bunch to stay stout and play better in the next 409 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 4: four games. 410 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 3: And the theme of the last couple of highlights has 411 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 3: been takeaway touchdown, take away touchdown, take away touchdown, and 412 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 3: it would keep going. 413 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: It did continue Trevor. 414 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: One of Trevor's interceptions would follow that, and then that 415 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: would lead to another Brown's touchdown. And Trevor, I don't 416 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: want to say that he expect a little bit more 417 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: in terms of his understanding with either Ridley or whoever 418 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball to, But I did expect a 419 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: little bit more out of both of them. And it's 420 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: not to blame either one of them necessarily, because I 421 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: don't know what's happening in the meetings. I don't know 422 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: what play is exactly called up. But you can use 423 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: your own eyes and know that it doesn't look right. 424 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: Well, if the other two interceptions were on Calvin for 425 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 3: running the wrong route or not looking for the ball. 426 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: That one was on the quarterback for just heaving it 427 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: up there and expecting him to get back on the other. 428 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: Side when he hasn't done it. 429 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think the receiver's got to help 430 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 4: the quarterback in that situation. This league right now is 431 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 4: about throwing up and let your guy make a play. 432 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: But newsm was over the top the whole way. Well, 433 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 3: I mean, at what point would you see that and say, oh, 434 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: he's gonna get by. 435 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 4: Him because he's won on one with the corner, So 436 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: you throw. 437 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: The ball up and. 438 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 7: Let it go to guy, go make a play. 439 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, didn't see that play get made yesterday. Parker Washington 440 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: has been forced into things with Jamal agnew being ounce 441 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: who's been returning kicks, and now with Christian kirkout, he's 442 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: kind of become that extra wide receiver in the slot, 443 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: trying to fill that role a little bit. We've seen 444 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: flashes from him. Obviously, he's made mistakes, had a fumble 445 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: in the game yesterday, had some other you know, was 446 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: miscommunication on that play where Trevor got hurt on Monday 447 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: Night Football. But this was a great catch and these 448 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: are the flashes where you see you understand what he's 449 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: going to bring to the team and why they liked 450 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: him and why they drafted him. 451 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 3: He just knows so little of the offense. I mean, 452 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: he just has such a slight understanding of the role 453 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: that he has to step into. But that's the kind 454 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 3: of catch that Christian Kirk would make, and so for 455 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: him to pull that one down, John, we talked about 456 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 3: silver linings and little bits of hope. You know, over 457 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 3: the next couple weeks, with more time on the practice field, 458 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: more reps, more timing with the quarterback. I mean, think 459 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 3: about this, this week he gets into the starting role, 460 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: but he doesn't get any reps with his quarterback because 461 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: his quarterback can't practice. So you think that if Trevor 462 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: can be on the practice field this week, that kid 463 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: can make more of an impact. 464 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: Well, we talk so much and everybody in the NFL 465 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 4: talks about second year jumps. He looks to me like 466 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 4: a kid who's has a chance to be outstanding next year. 467 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 4: If you're making a few plays a game like this 468 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 4: as a rookie, this is above and beyond what you 469 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 4: expect from a fifth round picks. 470 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 7: A rookie. He looks to me like a. 471 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 4: I don't remember the last time this team drafted a 472 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 4: wide receiver who in year three or four of that 473 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 4: kid's career, he's been a really go to guy and 474 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 4: go to you know what I'm saying, Well, he can 475 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: be really productive for a long time. 476 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 3: You draft a kid like that because you expect him 477 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: to eventually replace Christian Kirk. Right, it's a couple of 478 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 3: years down the road. Here's the other thing that put 479 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: it into context what he's doing. He's also the return guy, 480 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: replacing a Pro Bowl caliber punt returner in Jamal Agnew, 481 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: and yesterday he had a couple and an eleven and 482 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: a twenty six yard punt return. So he is replacing 483 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: Agnew and Kirk. If you had said before the season, oh, 484 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 3: at some point the same game, he's going to replace 485 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 3: both of them, play pretty well, you'd say. 486 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 4: What, Yeah, considering his first real reps were last week, Yeah, 487 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 4: two touchdowns. 488 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 7: You'll take his production and his potential growth. 489 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: He's got upside, real upside, full rookie in the sense 490 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: of he makes mistakes and you're very very mad at him, 491 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: and then he does some awesome stuff and you're like, oh, okay, 492 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: it's all right, So we get the full gambit with 493 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: Parker there late in this game, as we mentioned, it 494 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: felt like they were out of it, but the Jaguars 495 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: really were in it until the final minutes of this game. 496 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, they were trying to stay 497 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: in and go for it on fourth down late when 498 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: they had the ball and they were within a score, 499 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: and that's when they were trying to get back into things. 500 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: And it's just and they weren't calling this all day, 501 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: and I understand why his Adrianes is frustrated. The you know, 502 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: the back is on him before the ball gets there. 503 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: But there's probably two or three plays that they had 504 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: done this and at this point you weren't going to 505 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: get that call because you didn't get it the two 506 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: times before that the exact same thing happened. 507 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 3: Well, and you got to wonder, if Christian Kirks on 508 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: the field, how much more that opens things up for 509 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: Za to be able to make that catch or Kirk 510 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: is open on that catch. This will be the last 511 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 3: time we can say, well, probably the last time we 512 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: will say, well what if Christian was on the field, 513 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 3: because it's the first game after that. But it allowed 514 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 3: them to get that field goal with the game out 515 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: of reach. 516 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we may be saying I think maybe 517 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 4: talking about Christian for a little bit, because it feels 518 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: like his absence is gonna hurt. I didn't have a 519 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: huge problem with the non calls. It felt like they 520 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 4: were calling that pretty much both ways the whole game. 521 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, they're consistently not calling it. 522 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 7: So yeah, it was have been called. 523 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 4: I guess not surprising when you're playing a really good 524 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: pass defense at their place that you don't forget it. 525 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: Sometimes you throw the flag simes they don't. 526 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 3: It's a game of interes and yards and first and 527 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 3: second down. Jacks did a really nice job on that 528 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: drive of keeping the Browns at bay and then a 529 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: third down they got freed just enough to make it 530 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: a fifty five instead of a fifty eight, and you 531 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: wonder if it's fifty eight or fifty nine if the 532 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 3: kick is good. 533 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: So Ingram had two touchdowns on the day. As we 534 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, he was, you know, the bright spot for 535 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: this team on offense as far as that goes, And 536 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: the last two games really he's been clicking. Unfortunately it's 537 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: in two games that the Jaguars have come up short. 538 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 2: But he's kind of that. You know, they don't have 539 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: that big wide receiver. 540 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: He fills that role a little bit the red zone, 541 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: which is sorely needed and was much appreciated yesterday at 542 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: least to keep them in out. 543 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's encouraging that he got He had 544 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 4: not been great in the red zone this year, and 545 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 4: a lot of that circumstance he hadn't had a touchdown. 546 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 4: But sometimes you know, you can go through patches where 547 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 4: it's just not going your way down there. It's encouraging 548 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: for this stretch run that they're production in the red 549 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: zone from man, they were four to four in the 550 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 4: red zone yesterday. It didn't feel like it because they 551 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 4: kind of gave away a couple of. 552 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 7: Like thirty five and forty in. 553 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 4: If he gives them that wrinkle in the red zone, 554 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 4: that could make a difference to one of the last 555 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 4: four games. 556 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: If you go look at tight end numbers, and I 557 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: haven't yet this morning updated numbers, but if you go 558 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 3: look at tight end numbers around the league, you'll find 559 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 3: him in the top five in almost every category. In fact, 560 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: yards after the catch he was number one and Najoku 561 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: was number two. And I think najok who passed him yesterday, 562 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: but just by a hair. I mean, he is as 563 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: productive a tight end as you could ask for outside 564 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 3: of Travis Kelcey and Greg Kittle. So to have that 565 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: going into the stretch run of the season, that is, boy, 566 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 3: if he gets dinged up, you're in real trouble. 567 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: I think he's eighty six catches something like that on 568 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: the season, and he broke. 569 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: His own Jaguars single season receptions record by a tight 570 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 3: end yesterday. 571 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: He's close to the wide receiver records for the Jaguars 572 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: that is going to be at the end of the season. 573 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: So definitely something that they need to keep going to 574 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: him on offense and hopefully that opens up some other people. 575 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: All Right today with us, we've got hot takes coming 576 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: up after the break here on Jagzam this morning presented. 577 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: By Carshield Move the Freight. 578 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: Moved the Freight Magellan Transport voted the coolest office space 579 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. You can apply online at www dot Magellanlogistics 580 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: dot com. We welcome you back into Jagzam on this 581 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: Monday as we recap kind of Week fourteen and everything 582 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: that went down with the Jaguars and Bengals yesterday. You've 583 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: heard a little bit of what we thought about the game, 584 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: but now we're going to go over our full hot takes. John, 585 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: do you want to kick us off with your hot 586 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: take today? 587 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 7: Yeah? I need to see it. 588 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 4: But basically, it's uh, they control their faith. There's still 589 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: a game up and they're more than that because of 590 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 4: tie breaks, and they've earned that. They're the best team 591 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 4: in the AFC South. I still think they're going to 592 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 4: win the AFC South. I don't think they're going to 593 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 4: be like the number one see but I didn't think 594 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 4: they were that level to begin with. I think they're 595 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 4: probably the third, fourth, fifth team in the AFC somewhere there. 596 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 4: They can still get back to there. They're still capable 597 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 4: of it. These patches happen when you're trying to fight through. 598 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 4: With this team's trying to fight through, I don't think 599 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 4: they should panic again. I'm not sure they beat the Ravens, 600 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 4: but it's there for them if they just get back, 601 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 4: especially defensively, to being more solid. I don't think this 602 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 4: is a time to panic, but they've got to do 603 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 4: it at some point. 604 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: Well, you know you say that you don't think they're 605 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: at that level, and certainly they're not with the injuries 606 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: that they have taken on right now. They just don't 607 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: have the depth of the offensive line. But they're a 608 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 3: misbranded McManus field goal away from being just a game 609 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 3: out of that. So they john they took advantage of 610 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: the opportunities they had and put themselves in a position 611 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 3: to be able to see it from here. So here's 612 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: my point. Beat the Ravens claim the South. Right, you 613 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: look right now at the Colts who got clobbered yesterday 614 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: by the Bengals. Gardner Minshew is what he is. If 615 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: everything else is good, if they're not turning the ball over, 616 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 3: if the defense is helping, he can put you in 617 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: a position to win, like he did in Nashville. But 618 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: they haven't beaten many really good teams. They haven't played 619 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 3: any really good teams. They've beaten the Patriots and the 620 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: and the Panthers and you know, and the Titans, and 621 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: so they are what they are. And then now all 622 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: of a sudden, the Texans have a quarterback who's in 623 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: the concussion protocol and they're very beat up and there 624 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: are trouble So you go claim it on Sunday by 625 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: beating the Ravens at home, which, without knowing what the 626 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: lineup is going to look like up front, seems like 627 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: a formidable task. But if the quarterback comes out and plays. 628 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: Right, it's still a very hot take in my opinion, 629 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to beat the Ravens 630 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: this week. 631 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, are you ready to claim that they can't? 632 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 2: They can. They can do a lot of things whether 633 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 2: they win. 634 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: Not claiming they will. I'm saying, beat the Ravens, you 635 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 3: win the South on Sunday night. 636 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 8: All right. 637 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: By the way, you asked for hot take, wild. 638 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: That was blazing hot take. 639 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: My hot take is that they aren't following their own 640 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: motto right they talk about gritty not pretty. They're trying 641 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: to play pretty right now, they're trying to play finesse. 642 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: They're not. 643 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: You know, in the trenches is where it starts. I think, 644 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, when you lose fully thought to cost you 645 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: and other people you're you know, injuries are an excuse, 646 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: but there's an issue there. And then wide receivers. The 647 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: only ones that are having success in the offense right 648 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: now are Evan Ingram and Parker Washington, who's shown he's. 649 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: Probably one of the toughest people they. 650 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: Have out there right now, and it's for me a 651 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: matter of maybe that's not how this team is built, 652 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: but when it comes to this point of the season, 653 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: especially when you're playing teams like the Browns and the 654 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: Ravens and the Bengals for that matter, you know, the 655 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: Browns are have twice the amount of injuries that we have, 656 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: but they're just built on being a physical football team, 657 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: and I really feel like that's what it kind of 658 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: came down to yesterday. 659 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: You got to be able to run the ball, to 660 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 3: play that gritty style, and as we talked about right now, 661 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: at least I don't see the ability to do that. 662 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Jaguars play callers, everybody offense would 663 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 4: love to be gritty. I'm kind of with Brian. You know, 664 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 4: you threw on third and one yesterday because evidence has 665 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 4: shown you in recent games that third and one has 666 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 4: to have to pick up rushing for this team. 667 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 7: So I think they'd love to be gritty. I think 668 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 7: they sort of have to try to be pretty. 669 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 3: I want to go past one more hot take real quick, 670 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: give Tank Bigsby a couple of carries here and there. 671 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you need to have that Slamm and I 672 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 3: understand when he's on the field, defense is under They 673 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: know it's not going to be a passing play because 674 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 3: the Jaguars, if they don't trust anything in Bigsby, it's 675 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: they don't trust his protection, right, his ability to protect 676 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 3: the quarterback in passing situations. But he has in his 677 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 3: last ten carries for six yard carries. You need that 678 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 3: between the tackles outside. Etn is one of those guys 679 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: who can give you an eleven yard game. But how 680 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: many times was he stuff behind the line of scrimmage yesterday? 681 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 3: A lot? 682 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: Right, So if you can give tank and he can 683 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: kind of move through the pile, that's what they are 684 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: missing right now. 685 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: Excuse me what they're missing right now? And also, you know, 686 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: not being able to open things up with the line 687 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: because of the injuries they have or personnel or whatever 688 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: it may be. Yeah, you gotta try something new. So 689 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: maybe that's maybe that's the answer. Maybe they will try 690 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: that on Sunday night. Stay with us, we'll look ahead 691 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: to the rest of the week here on jagsam. 692 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: Jags fans. 693 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: If you want customize Jaguarsh furniture for your home, check 694 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: out zipchare dot com. To browse all the customizable options. 695 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: ZIP chair is furniture made for fans. Jagxam also brought 696 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: to you by publics or shopping is a pleasure. 697 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 3: You can't replace the guy like one three, but you 698 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: know there's no excuses. 699 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 5: We ill found a way to do it. And this 700 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 5: is this is a scene when it walking room year 701 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 5: to figure it out and get it und to day. 702 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: But you know it gets all that stuff. 703 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram post game yesterday, probably one of the most 704 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: demonstratively frustrated with how the team has been. Obviously he's 705 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: a leader in that room, so you know when he's frustrated, 706 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: it's frustrated with a situation that it's probably reached its 707 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: spoiling point. 708 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he clearly was took no solace in having 709 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 4: a big game. 710 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 7: That's not who he is. 711 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: Look, the season's not on the brink, it's not over. 712 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 4: It's all right there in front of him. But they 713 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 4: have to make a couple of more plays a game 714 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 4: as bad as that felt, Yeah, you're like you said, 715 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 4: it's such a league of inches. You're a couple of 716 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 4: plays away from having won the last two and everything's rosy. 717 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 4: But if you keep doing that everything's not gonna be righty, Well, we've. 718 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: Seen some things that work. It's just, and Dug said yesterday, 719 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: it feels like you're not playing your best football. And 720 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: when you're losing, right, clearly, you can't say that you are. 721 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: You'd like to feel like, hey, we're getting better here 722 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 3: as the season goes along, right, you know we're grabbing 723 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: a win. You beat the Bengals, you lose to the Browns, 724 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 3: you can at least say, all right, you know that 725 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 3: was on the road against the playoff team. We feel 726 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: like we're playing good football. Away we go. You just 727 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: get this feeling like your footing isn't as solid. And 728 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: if the Ravens come in here and win on Sunday night, 729 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: you'll really feel that way. But John's right, the season 730 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 3: isn't on the brink. You want them to play with 731 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: a sense of desperation, play like a desperate team without understanding, hey, 732 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: it's over right. You want everyone to kind of calm 733 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: down and make that happen. Just a thought real quick 734 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: on Ingram and the absence. I'm gonna grab Chad Hall 735 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 3: this week, the wide receivers coach John So much of 736 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: modern football is about getting guys in space in one 737 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 3: on one matchups and then having a guy who can 738 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: beat it. And it's kind of like basketball, right, And 739 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: you've got a guy in Ingram that's used to the 740 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 3: spacing Zay, that's used to the spacing that a guy 741 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: like Christian Kirk creates. So I want to find out 742 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: who can they put on the field because it isn't 743 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: Tim Jones, right, is it Elijah Cooks? Is there somebody 744 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: that can create the sort of spacing that gets guys 745 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: a chance to get open in this offense? Is there 746 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: somebody who's sitting there in that room because there's a 747 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 3: couple of guys on the practice squad? Is there anybody 748 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: that you can put in there and try and find 749 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 3: something or is it going to be Parker getting better? 750 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: I think Parker will definitely get better, I think, and 751 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm assuming I'm gonna speak for Chad Hall. He's very 752 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: impressed with what he's been able to do in the 753 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: short term, and I think that he'll be involved a 754 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: lot more going forward. 755 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 2: See, we should hope. 756 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: All right, stay with us this week. Of course, we'll 757 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: have jagsam on Wednesday and Thursday we'll get ready for 758 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: Sunday night football against the Raven's gonna be a huge 759 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: game here, and of course we'll get your prepped the 760 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: whole week long right here in Jags. Aam