WEBVTT - LISTEN | ESPN Radio's Dan Graca and Greg Buttle Talk Jets (4/3) 0:00:02.160 --> 0:00:04.520 Hey, they're Jets fans. Welcome to another episode of the 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:09.039 Official Jets Podcast, powered by Amazon Web Services. Dan Grassa 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.760 alongside Greg Buttle, we are the pre impost game voices 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.480 ESPN Radio and the Jets Radio Network each and every 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:19.800 Jets contest. And Greg, this is nice that we get 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.439 to reconnect and do something like this. Shoot, we haven't 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.000 been together since that last game against the Buffalo Bills. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.240 How have you been, my friend? All I can tell 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.280 you is doesn't it it needs a pandemic for you 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.120 and I to get together and talk for more than 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:38.400 five minutes. It took something like that exactly. But if 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.280 there was one glimmer of positive to come out of 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:43.599 this pandemic, as you said, it's that you and I 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.760 are together again and we'll have some fun. But on 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.440 a serious note, you know, you bring up everything we're 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.519 going through right now in the country, in the world, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:52.839 and you want to give a shout out, or at 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:54.640 least we should give a shout out to the people 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:58.240 on the front line, the doctors, that nurses, the healthcare workers. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.760 They've been the true heroes during this entire thing. And look, 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:04.760 we're in a very difficult spot right now as a 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.840 planet as a society. But if not for them, it 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.480 will be even that much more difficult. So they certainly 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.080 deserve a big, big tip of the cap. Well, I 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.680 sure do. And part part of the tough thing to 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.520 it comes down to and understanding a pandemic and how 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.120 it affects everybody is you don't know how it affects everybody. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.560 I mean I I know one person that has COVID nineteen. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.280 I don't know if you know anybody, And there are 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.479 friends of mine who don't know anybody. Yet we know 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.440 people are set, We know that it is happening, and 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.640 it just shows you how vulnerable we all are. You know, 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.640 this is you know, an equal opportunity offender attacks everybody 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.679 or can attack everybody, right, It doesn't matter how big 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.040 or strong you are, how wealthy are there, that doesn't 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.360 mean anything. You know, we are all exposed to this thing. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.480 And that's why you have to heed the advice of 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.480 all the professionals out there who you know, encourage the 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.920 social distancing. And you know a lot of us have 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.040 been home for the lay a few weeks doing our 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.000 best to beat this thing. Because as we come together, 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.160 Greg and we can all collectively chip in sooner this 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:07.840 thing will go away and we can get back to 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.920 our normal lives. And I'm just curious. You know, what 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.280 has your routine been like here over the last few weeks, 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.320 As for most of us, we have been shut in. Well, 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.639 for most of the most part, I probably walked four 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.880 to six miles a day. It all depends on whether 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.880 I hit the ball left or right and if I 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:29.080 have a cart. But other than that, I it's it's 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.520 total total boredom. You do a lot of things around 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.120 the house and you're done. Uh. You You you can 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.040 only sit around here and look at everybody from my 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.760 wife to my kids to my granddaughter for so long 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.760 you go star crazy. So it's very difficult just just 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:50.600 thinking about how you you you run your life daily. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.680 Then you think back and go, what the hell do 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:58.000 they do on that space station with three people up 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.400 there for a year? Well, I would think the people 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.160 that would be trapped in the house with you, they're 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:04.919 they're they're the real heroes. Here are the ones that 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:06.880 have to actually get up with all of your stuff 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.320 for these days. Huh. I think you're getting out over 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:13.040 those skis again, Danny, But it's true. I mean, you 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.079 know again, some of the things we take for granted, 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.120 you know, just being able to go out and have 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.919 a normal routine. And you know, I'm blessed to do 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.640 a lot of great things in my life as far 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.920 as work is concerned, but I can't do those things 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.800 now because I'm shut down. So you're right. You spend 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:28.919 time with the family, a lot of movies, a lot 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.480 of TV. The Netflix has been given a good work 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.160 out here over the last few weeks. But you know, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.240 hopefully sooner rather than later, we can convene again and 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:39.400 get back to doing what we're customed to doing, and 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.200 that's getting ready for you know, a football season, and 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.480 one that for two thousand and twenty, at least with 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.240 the New York Jets. Greg, there's probably a lot of optimism, 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.520 not just with the way that the Jets finished up 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.400 two thousand and nineteen by having such a strong second 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.720 half year, but the moves that were made already in 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.320 the off season. Now the draft is just a few 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.920 weeks away. Things are hopefully looking up for this branch. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:01.280 Eyes And if you're a fan, that's a lot to 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:05.320 be excited about. You're not You're not kidding, uh, you know, 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:08.640 the Kendall's were a country western singing group Father Daughter, 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.720 and they sang a song thank God for the Radio, 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.240 and I'm saying, thank God for the Internet. If you 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.520 don't have the Internet, you are you are information less. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.159 You've got to be able to find out what's going 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.880 on out there, not just for the virus and people that, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:29.080 but your favorite sports teams. They're not playing the Jets. 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:30.760 I think they're all going to go to the draft 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.719 and and that stuff, and however they're gonna do it. 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.640 But think about it what it's It's put such a 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:40.599 crimp in the American way, and I think that that's 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:42.880 a hard thing for people to get get a handle to. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.880 Well in a way too. You know, sports has always 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.440 been kind of something that we look to as a 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:52.320 diversion in the in our lives when things get overly difficult. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.919 Football is really the only sport that's been in business 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.280 right now right I mean, baseball shut down, hockey, basketball. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.120 At least the football is going about their off season activity. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:02.680 As I said, you know, the draft is gonna be 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.000 here in a few weeks time, so at least we've 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.479 had that to keep us busy and at least gives 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.920 us some sports information, and you know, when you look 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.400 at what the Jets have done here so far in 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:15.920 the off season, greg offensive line was certainly an area 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.080 of priority that Joe Douglas and pretty much anybody affiliated 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.400 with this team identified at the end of last season. 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.520 If you think about the struggles they had on the 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.920 old line last year, just with all the moving parts, 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:31.839 you know, nine different starting combinations, eleven different offensive lineman 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.200 used entirely last year, they allowed fifty two sacks, and 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.719 so far Joe Douglass has been active on that front 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.560 here in free agency, They've brought in a handful of 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:45.320 offensive lineman. You know, re signing a guy like Alex Lewis, 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.440 who was very instrumental for them last year, stepped in 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:52.440 at that left guard position and did really really solid job. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.719 But you know, let's start with the guy here in 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.760 George Fanton, who was the first one to climb aboard, 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.760 came from the Seattle Seahawks. He's got ex Buriens playing 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.760 both tackle positions here. And the thing that you hit 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.480 that did you hear people say about George fan He's 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.400 extremely athletic, he's versatile, and in that conference called that 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.080 Joe Douglas did with the media on Wednesday, Greg all 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:17.080 these offensive lineman that he talked about bringing aboard versatility 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.480 was the one thing he stressed and George Fan certainly 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.360 provides that. Yeah, I would I would agree with that. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.599 I mean, I think, what is this his fifth theory 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:29.800 he's going into and he's uh, he's He's played a 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.520 lot of different positions. He wasn't drafted, he wasn't a 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:38.320 football player. He's a basketball guy. Uh. But uh, I say, 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.520 why not about that guy? The guy wants to play 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.919 offensive tackle. He's got nothing but athletic ability, as you 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:48.880 call balanced athletic ability. Uh, that's that's a lot better 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.919 than what the Jets have had at that position for 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.480 the last two years. I would say, now, you hit 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.440 on a on a on a hot button issue, which 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.359 is injuries. The offensive line has been injured, they have 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.119 You've got is playing out of position the whole time. 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.119 What if the Jets can somehow manage to get five 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.000 guys to stay on the field healthy and not have 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:13.960 to transform an offensive line and to make shift um 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:18.440 offensive guard carousel, Well then I think they have a 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.760 pretty good shot. And right now, maybe the Jets are 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.360 getting younger on the offensive line, and maybe that's gonna 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.160 be one of the big things to help them. They 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.160 are getting younger. That's a very good point. But you know, 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.160 back to all the injuries that they suffered last year 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:31.680 on that line. I mean, how many times did you 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.680 and I get ready to go on the air on 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.000 a Sunday morning or an afternoon or whatever to do 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.640 the pregame show, and you know it is, well, who's 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.760 on the offensive line today? Who's star? Who's the start 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.000 in five in the offensive line? Because it was almost like, 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.200 you know, a game of just you know, throw the 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.000 dart at the board and see whose name it was 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.200 gonna land on this week, just because of all the 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.200 different bodies that they were shuffling in and out of there. 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.480 And you know, George fancy guy who comes from a 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.360 winning program with the Seattle Seahawks. You know, he's got 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.360 experience playing in some of these bigger games. And the 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.120 thing you like about him and a lot of these 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.160 guys that they brought it on the offensive line, which 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.600 we'll get to in a second. Upside you hear that 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.480 word a lot as well. Upside that they haven't reached 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.960 their ceiling, haven't reached their potential yet. And hopefully the 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.080 Jets can bring that out of them and they're the 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.800 ones that are going to benefit from it. Well, uh, 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.680 with what's going on right now, they're gonna have to 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.440 do it quite quickly. I don't know how much playing 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.480 time these guys are gonna be able to get in preseason, 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.480 if there is a preseason, because we all don't know. 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.400 But this is going to be a work in progress. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:37.160 And again, Jet fans have watched works in progress over 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.960 the last ten twenty years that it always has changed. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.680 What they're looking for is stability, and hopefully with Joe 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:48.920 Douglas getting these guys into free agent, you free agency market, 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:53.720 you will start to get stability along the offensive line. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:55.880 And one of the things that Joe Douglas alluded to 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:57.839 on that conference call with the media earlier in the 0:08:57.880 --> 0:08:59.480 week is that, you know, yeah, they're bringing in a 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.319 lot of body reason. Who knows if they're done yet. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:02.959 You know, the draft is still coming up, and we'll 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.120 hit on that in just a few moments here, but 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.240 he said, the best five guys are gonna play, and 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.400 really that's what you want. You want a competition. You 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.360 want to put your best guys out there. And I 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.400 think that as an organization, they're confident that they are 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.520 going to find those five guys. This is the Official 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.760 Jets Podcast powered by a WS Dan Gross of Greg 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:22.600 Buttle hanging out with you on this episode. Another guy 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.920 that they brought aboard Greg here, Connor McGovern comes from 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.120 the Denver Broncos. And you said the word stability a 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.120 few minutes ago. The Jets were blessed for a long 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.480 time to have stability at that center position. Think about it, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:39.080 between Kevin Mawai and Nick Mangold. You had two guys 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.760 who held down that center position for almost twenty years, 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.480 and the last few seasons it's been a revolving door. 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.160 You had Wesley Johnson who opened the season in seventeen, 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.920 Spencer Long and eighteen last year was Ryan Khalil. Now 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.320 you have a guy in Connor McGovern who you know, 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.600 you think his best football is ahead of him. He's 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.880 played a lot of snaps for the Denver Broncos the 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.559 last couple of seasons. And the thing you like about 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.760 it more than anything, Greg, you know how many times 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:09.920 he was penalized last year? Zero? Because what are the 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.600 things that can set you back any drive? And what 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.920 you hate to see on offense. It's when the laundry 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.960 comes out in those penalties. Well, that's one of two things. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.080 Either he's very smart or be or be he can 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:24.679 cheat like the best of them. And and and all 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.600 I can tell you is that I don't know an 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.840 offensive lineman that doesn't hold, and that starts at center. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.920 That being said, you did touch on a couple of things, 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.120 and and that is is the that when when you 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:40.560 think about offensive line, particularly at center for the Jets, 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:45.240 all you thought about was consistency, competence, balance. And there 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:49.000 they are again, those funny little tough to understand athletic 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:53.079 descriptors I just described mangled. You just talked about their 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.360 I mean you're talking about guys. One's got a gold jacket. 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.079 The other one I'm sure is going to get one 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.560 of those. Uh. But if if the Jets get three 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.720 quarters of that and in eighteen games out of McGovern 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.320 at the center position, then that's the score for the Jets. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.720 I mean, Khalil was the last such hope last year 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:15.080 in a prayer you know, uh, that that the Jets 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.440 line was off injured they needed They were talent pressed 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:22.240 on the offensive line. But I like it and there's 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:26.080 still room for Jonathan Harrison to be important along the 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.760 offensive line because he's able to play a lot of 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:33.800 different positions. Jonathan Harrison extremely dependable, solid veteran last couple 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:36.360 of years. He'll be back as well here to provide 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:38.559 some of that depth on that offensive line and really 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.080 one of the key cogs that you would hope to 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.600 have from a successful unit, that center position, that anchor. 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.960 So if it ends up being Connumer, Governor also has 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.960 experienced playing guard, we'll see how that plays out here. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.719 A guard by trade that the Jets also brought in. 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.240 Greg greg is Greg Van Roten, a local product from 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.760 Long Island. He's well traveled, actually spent some time in 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.520 this thefl before he settled in with the Carolina Panthers 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.760 the last couple of seasons. You're talking about a guy 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.480 who's undrafted, you know, so he has always had a 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.520 little bit of a chip on his shoulder with something 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.440 to prove. But another one of these guys that's versatile 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.439 and can play multiple positions on that line. Yeah, it's 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:18.840 just I guess he's in a sixth year. He's uh, 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.960 he's a he's a pretty good player. We're all got 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.199 to find out what a ceiling is, obviously, but I 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.240 think they signed him at three years at three and 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:32.240 a half million per But since the NFL began weaponizing 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.120 the forward pass, which and part of that was the 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.720 quarterback the NTZ, that's the no touch zone and wide 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:43.079 receivers without you can't touch a wide receiver and the 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:47.400 whole rules are incredible to me. And by calling quarterback 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:53.000 roughings through fingerprint analysis. Nowadays, it's never been more important 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.960 than to pass protect for just another half a second, 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.440 not for forty two seconds. Give me another half a 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.160 second for the kid to look over here or look 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.560 over there, or sidesteps something. Some people made the minutes 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:12.120 like a Van Roton's worth by evaluating as you as 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.559 you started off with, as unable to be a difference maker, 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.640 so to speak. But I'll take confidence and balance at 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.240 the offensive guard position. In today's I don't have to 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.600 run the ball to score NFL. Let me tell you something. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:28.680 I think it's overblown about that run stuff. Run run 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.640 gets open when they start playing nickel. You get teams 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.320 to play nickel, you're gonna run the ball out it. Well, 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.400 bottom line is I think we can all agree that 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.720 probably the guy that the Jets need to put the 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.240 most priority in is the quarterback Sam Donald to protect 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.760 that investment. Joe Douglas said on that conference call that 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.679 you know, before the first preseason game last year when 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.800 the Jets played the Giants, that Joe Douglas went up, 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.800 introduced himself to Sam Donald's parents who were at the game, 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.520 and he said, I'm gonna do everything in my power 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.719 to make sure that I give your son the best protection, 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.920 the best opportunity would be successful. The guys that we 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.679 just mentioned Greg throwing again, Alex Lewis who's resigned and 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.880 he's gonna be back next year, plus the Chuma Adoga's 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:13.080 Jonathan Harrison's Uh. Joe Douglas still spoke highly, of course 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.760 of Brian Winters, who's a holdover and has been here 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.160 for several years. Plus whoever they enter in the draft. 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.080 There's gonna be some guys that you think that offensive line, 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:23.960 if they can stay healthy, they're gonna be able to 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.160 get the job done well. Certainly, just from the guys 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.040 that we mentioned right now, the Jets have taken a 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:35.560 nice step forward, not backwards, and not sideways to make 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.360 their offensive line better than it was last year, not 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.560 every Jet fans got a love. Now you have an 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.800 offensive line, but then what about surrounding the quarterback with 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.160 weapons to be able to distribute the football too well 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:52.080 the Jets have done and bringing in Breshad Perryman, who 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.520 really had a stand out close to the season last 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.000 year as a member of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now, 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.000 this is a guy that Joe Douglas is familiar with 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.040 because when Joe doug Us was winding up his team 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.520 there or his time with the Baltimore Ravens. You know, 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.600 Harriman was the first round pick four of them in 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.320 two thousand and fifteen, so it's not too far removed 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.760 from that time. He's got talent. I mentioned last year 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.480 with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers final five games of the season, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:20.440 Greg he catches five hundred six yards and five touchdowns. 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.560 That was just in the last five games of the season. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.960 His five hundred and six yards was the third most 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.000 in the NFL over those last five weeks. He's a burner, 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:34.040 he can fly. This is something that you hope can 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.720 stress stretch the defense or stretch the opposing defense, I 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.800 should say, and give Sam Donald another playmaker to be 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.480 able to give the football to you. Well, you know me, 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.920 I don't disagree if if if the Jets load up 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.280 on wide receivers, I mean, Breshad Perriman is in his 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.560 fourth year, I think, and I guess they signed it 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:55.800 for one year at six million, and then they'll see 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.880 how that works out. But the Jets need these guys, 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:03.240 especially the ones that can stay healthy. Some may say 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.680 it's a downgrade from Anderson, not me. I don't think so. 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.320 I think he brings speed to keep the secondary. Honest. 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:12.960 He may not have played up to his expectations for 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.280 the first three and a half years, but you never 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.280 know what's going on with other teams. But the NFL, 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.280 which is dan as you and I both know, it's 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:24.000 the what have you done for me lately? Sport that 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.880 determined value, and you mentioned what he did for them lately. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.240 He was very good at the last five or six 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.840 games that he played in. Uh. I like the fact 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.920 of of of two different things that I that I've 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.320 I've read about him and I know he's capable of 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:42.560 doing that is uh he's he was at eighteen yards 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.880 per reception, I mean over fifty catches. Yeah, that's pretty good. 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.080 And the other one is one drop in his last 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:54.440 sixty five touches. That's impressive to me. I mean, you've 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.200 got to be able to hold the ball. And you 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.600 and I have sat up in the in the press 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.160 box and just side glanced each other when a wide 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.040 receiver drops the ball to trite in their hands or 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:06.760 a tight end of dropped it in their hands, or 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.720 the running back to Dropson catch the ball. And so far, 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:12.880 I think that this kid is going to be able 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.879 to do it. You mentioned Robby Anderson. He's moved on 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.720 to the CAROLINEA Panthers. You wish him well, of course, 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.720 so Perriman hopefully will help make up for that loss 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.880 of speed and that vertical threat that Robby Anderson certainly provided. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.320 But Jamison Crowder had a very successful season last year 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:29.920 for the Jets. He's gonna be back in the mix 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.200 along with you know, the youngsters, Braxton Berrios, Vincent Smith, 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.280 Josh Dotson, a number of another former number one pick 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.879 who hasn't really found that footing yet in the National 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.600 Football League. Jets will see what they can get from him. 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.800 And another thing to remember, Greg, don't forget Chris Herndon 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:47.320 is going to be healthy again and be back and 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.159 after what was a promising rookie season last year was 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.120 pretty much a wash form because of a multitude of injuries. 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.680 Think about having a healthy Chris Herndon what that can 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.040 do for Sam Donald in the offense. Now to go 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.520 with Ryan Griffin who stepped in and was very valuable 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.399 at tight end last year. Having all those pieces together, 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.679 plus whatever maybe receiver or target you bring in with 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.680 the draft, Sam Donald's going to have his choices here 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.960 to be able to make plays with. Well, you mentioned 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.840 one guy that I mean, I I was tickled pink 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.399 about and and most of its pink is not my 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:26.120 favorite cup, my favorite color. But when a tight end 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:30.399 catches a ball, turns and goes upfield and scores and 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.879 out run safeties, that's that's that to me is a 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.320 real tight end. There's not a tight end in this 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:40.760 league unless you can find one, since I don't know 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:46.240 who can block a defensive end. So you're talking about 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.040 the tight ends that are able to get in front 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:52.119 of people. Like just put a trash can in front 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.320 of a garbage truck. You'll swerve to get around the 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.640 trash can, but you got to get in front of people. 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.080 And that's what he does and by away he catches 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.639 the ball. We talked about it with his hands, he 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.760 makes moves, he gets first downs, and he can run 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:09.520 after the catch. I think I think he could be 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.320 around here for a for a few more years, if 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.240 not more, the rest of his career. Dan Gross and 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.080 Greg Buttle hanging out with you on the Official Jets 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.119 Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. Let's foot over to 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:22.320 the defensive side of the ball here to see her 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.920 climbing aboard formerly of the Indianapolis Colds. He was cutting 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.760 a cost saving move by Indianapolis and he said that 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.080 it was just half an hour later where his agent 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.560 heard from the Jets and it turned out to be 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.920 a fit that worked. And this is a guy who 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.080 was battled some injuries last year and maybe that contributed 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.399 to a little bit of a lapse in his performance. 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.800 But a couple of seasons ago, Greg, in twenty eighteen, 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.359 he really was outstanding for Indianapolis. You think about the 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.240 battles he had with DeAndre Hopkins in the Houston Texans 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:52.960 that playoff game. Hopkins one of the best wide receivers 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.359 in the sport, and to see her pretty much shut 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.719 him down in for a cornerback position that's going to 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.199 have a little bit of chain as from last season 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:02.960 to see here as a guy that Jehope is going 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.720 to come in here and make a nice impact. Well, 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.400