1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Hey, they're Jets fans. Welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast, powered by Amazon Web Services. Dan Grassa 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: alongside Greg Buttle, we are the pre impost game voices 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: ESPN Radio and the Jets Radio Network each and every 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Jets contest. And Greg, this is nice that we get 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: to reconnect and do something like this. Shoot, we haven't 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: been together since that last game against the Buffalo Bills. 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: How have you been, my friend? All I can tell 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: you is doesn't it it needs a pandemic for you 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: and I to get together and talk for more than 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: five minutes. It took something like that exactly. But if 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: there was one glimmer of positive to come out of 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: this pandemic, as you said, it's that you and I 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: are together again and we'll have some fun. But on 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: a serious note, you know, you bring up everything we're 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: going through right now in the country, in the world, 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: and you want to give a shout out, or at 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: least we should give a shout out to the people 19 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: on the front line, the doctors, that nurses, the healthcare workers. 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: They've been the true heroes during this entire thing. And look, 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: we're in a very difficult spot right now as a 22 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: planet as a society. But if not for them, it 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: will be even that much more difficult. So they certainly 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: deserve a big, big tip of the cap. Well, I 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: sure do. And part part of the tough thing to 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: it comes down to and understanding a pandemic and how 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: it affects everybody is you don't know how it affects everybody. 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean I I know one person that has COVID nineteen. 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know anybody, And there are 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: friends of mine who don't know anybody. Yet we know 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: people are set, We know that it is happening, and 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: it just shows you how vulnerable we all are. You know, 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: this is you know, an equal opportunity offender attacks everybody 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: or can attack everybody, right, It doesn't matter how big 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: or strong you are, how wealthy are there, that doesn't 36 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: mean anything. You know, we are all exposed to this thing. 37 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: And that's why you have to heed the advice of 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: all the professionals out there who you know, encourage the 39 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: social distancing. And you know a lot of us have 40 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: been home for the lay a few weeks doing our 41 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: best to beat this thing. Because as we come together, 42 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: Greg and we can all collectively chip in sooner this 43 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: thing will go away and we can get back to 44 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: our normal lives. And I'm just curious. You know, what 45 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: has your routine been like here over the last few weeks, 46 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: As for most of us, we have been shut in. Well, 47 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: for most of the most part, I probably walked four 48 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: to six miles a day. It all depends on whether 49 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: I hit the ball left or right and if I 50 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: have a cart. But other than that, I it's it's 51 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: total total boredom. You do a lot of things around 52 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: the house and you're done. Uh. You You you can 53 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: only sit around here and look at everybody from my 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: wife to my kids to my granddaughter for so long 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: you go star crazy. So it's very difficult just just 56 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: thinking about how you you you run your life daily. 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: Then you think back and go, what the hell do 58 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: they do on that space station with three people up 59 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: there for a year? Well, I would think the people 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: that would be trapped in the house with you, they're 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: they're they're the real heroes. Here are the ones that 62 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: have to actually get up with all of your stuff 63 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: for these days. Huh. I think you're getting out over 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: those skis again, Danny, But it's true. I mean, you 65 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: know again, some of the things we take for granted, 66 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, just being able to go out and have 67 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: a normal routine. And you know, I'm blessed to do 68 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: a lot of great things in my life as far 69 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: as work is concerned, but I can't do those things 70 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: now because I'm shut down. So you're right. You spend 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: time with the family, a lot of movies, a lot 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: of TV. The Netflix has been given a good work 73 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: out here over the last few weeks. But you know, 74 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: hopefully sooner rather than later, we can convene again and 75 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: get back to doing what we're customed to doing, and 76 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: that's getting ready for you know, a football season, and 77 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: one that for two thousand and twenty, at least with 78 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. Greg, there's probably a lot of optimism, 79 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: not just with the way that the Jets finished up 80 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: two thousand and nineteen by having such a strong second 81 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: half year, but the moves that were made already in 82 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: the off season. Now the draft is just a few 83 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: weeks away. Things are hopefully looking up for this branch. 84 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Eyes And if you're a fan, that's a lot to 85 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: be excited about. You're not You're not kidding, uh, you know, 86 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: the Kendall's were a country western singing group Father Daughter, 87 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: and they sang a song thank God for the Radio, 88 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: and I'm saying, thank God for the Internet. If you 89 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: don't have the Internet, you are you are information less. 90 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: You've got to be able to find out what's going 91 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: on out there, not just for the virus and people that, 92 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: but your favorite sports teams. They're not playing the Jets. 93 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: I think they're all going to go to the draft 94 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: and and that stuff, and however they're gonna do it. 95 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: But think about it what it's It's put such a 96 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: crimp in the American way, and I think that that's 97 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: a hard thing for people to get get a handle to. 98 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: Well in a way too. You know, sports has always 99 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: been kind of something that we look to as a 100 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: diversion in the in our lives when things get overly difficult. 101 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: Football is really the only sport that's been in business 102 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: right now right I mean, baseball shut down, hockey, basketball. 103 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: At least the football is going about their off season activity. 104 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: As I said, you know, the draft is gonna be 105 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: here in a few weeks time, so at least we've 106 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: had that to keep us busy and at least gives 107 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: us some sports information, and you know, when you look 108 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: at what the Jets have done here so far in 109 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: the off season, greg offensive line was certainly an area 110 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: of priority that Joe Douglas and pretty much anybody affiliated 111 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: with this team identified at the end of last season. 112 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: If you think about the struggles they had on the 113 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: old line last year, just with all the moving parts, 114 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: you know, nine different starting combinations, eleven different offensive lineman 115 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: used entirely last year, they allowed fifty two sacks, and 116 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: so far Joe Douglass has been active on that front 117 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: here in free agency, They've brought in a handful of 118 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. You know, re signing a guy like Alex Lewis, 119 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: who was very instrumental for them last year, stepped in 120 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: at that left guard position and did really really solid job. 121 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: But you know, let's start with the guy here in 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: George Fanton, who was the first one to climb aboard, 123 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: came from the Seattle Seahawks. He's got ex Buriens playing 124 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: both tackle positions here. And the thing that you hit 125 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: that did you hear people say about George fan He's 126 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: extremely athletic, he's versatile, and in that conference called that 127 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas did with the media on Wednesday, Greg all 128 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: these offensive lineman that he talked about bringing aboard versatility 129 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: was the one thing he stressed and George Fan certainly 130 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: provides that. Yeah, I would I would agree with that. 131 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: I mean, I think, what is this his fifth theory 132 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: he's going into and he's uh, he's He's played a 133 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: lot of different positions. He wasn't drafted, he wasn't a 134 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: football player. He's a basketball guy. Uh. But uh, I say, 135 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: why not about that guy? The guy wants to play 136 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: offensive tackle. He's got nothing but athletic ability, as you 137 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: call balanced athletic ability. Uh, that's that's a lot better 138 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: than what the Jets have had at that position for 139 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: the last two years. I would say, now, you hit 140 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: on a on a on a hot button issue, which 141 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: is injuries. The offensive line has been injured, they have 142 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 1: You've got is playing out of position the whole time. 143 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,119 Speaker 1: What if the Jets can somehow manage to get five 144 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: guys to stay on the field healthy and not have 145 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: to transform an offensive line and to make shift um 146 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: offensive guard carousel, Well then I think they have a 147 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: pretty good shot. And right now, maybe the Jets are 148 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: getting younger on the offensive line, and maybe that's gonna 149 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: be one of the big things to help them. They 150 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: are getting younger. That's a very good point. But you know, 151 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: back to all the injuries that they suffered last year 152 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: on that line. I mean, how many times did you 153 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: and I get ready to go on the air on 154 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: a Sunday morning or an afternoon or whatever to do 155 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: the pregame show, and you know it is, well, who's 156 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: on the offensive line today? Who's star? Who's the start 157 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: in five in the offensive line? Because it was almost like, 158 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, a game of just you know, throw the 159 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: dart at the board and see whose name it was 160 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: gonna land on this week, just because of all the 161 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: different bodies that they were shuffling in and out of there. 162 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: And you know, George fancy guy who comes from a 163 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: winning program with the Seattle Seahawks. You know, he's got 164 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: experience playing in some of these bigger games. And the 165 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: thing you like about him and a lot of these 166 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: guys that they brought it on the offensive line, which 167 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: we'll get to in a second. Upside you hear that 168 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: word a lot as well. Upside that they haven't reached 169 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: their ceiling, haven't reached their potential yet. And hopefully the 170 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Jets can bring that out of them and they're the 171 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: ones that are going to benefit from it. Well, uh, 172 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: with what's going on right now, they're gonna have to 173 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: do it quite quickly. I don't know how much playing 174 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: time these guys are gonna be able to get in preseason, 175 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: if there is a preseason, because we all don't know. 176 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: But this is going to be a work in progress. 177 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: And again, Jet fans have watched works in progress over 178 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: the last ten twenty years that it always has changed. 179 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: What they're looking for is stability, and hopefully with Joe 180 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: Douglas getting these guys into free agent, you free agency market, 181 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: you will start to get stability along the offensive line. 182 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: And one of the things that Joe Douglas alluded to 183 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: on that conference call with the media earlier in the 184 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: week is that, you know, yeah, they're bringing in a 185 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: lot of body reason. Who knows if they're done yet. 186 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: You know, the draft is still coming up, and we'll 187 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: hit on that in just a few moments here, but 188 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: he said, the best five guys are gonna play, and 189 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: really that's what you want. You want a competition. You 190 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: want to put your best guys out there. And I 191 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: think that as an organization, they're confident that they are 192 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: going to find those five guys. This is the Official 193 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: Jets Podcast powered by a WS Dan Gross of Greg 194 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: Buttle hanging out with you on this episode. Another guy 195 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: that they brought aboard Greg here, Connor McGovern comes from 196 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. And you said the word stability a 197 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: few minutes ago. The Jets were blessed for a long 198 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: time to have stability at that center position. Think about it, 199 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: between Kevin Mawai and Nick Mangold. You had two guys 200 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: who held down that center position for almost twenty years, 201 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: and the last few seasons it's been a revolving door. 202 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: You had Wesley Johnson who opened the season in seventeen, 203 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: Spencer Long and eighteen last year was Ryan Khalil. Now 204 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: you have a guy in Connor McGovern who you know, 205 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: you think his best football is ahead of him. He's 206 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: played a lot of snaps for the Denver Broncos the 207 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: last couple of seasons. And the thing you like about 208 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: it more than anything, Greg, you know how many times 209 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: he was penalized last year? Zero? Because what are the 210 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: things that can set you back any drive? And what 211 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: you hate to see on offense. It's when the laundry 212 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: comes out in those penalties. Well, that's one of two things. 213 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: Either he's very smart or be or be he can 214 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: cheat like the best of them. And and and all 215 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: I can tell you is that I don't know an 216 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: offensive lineman that doesn't hold, and that starts at center. 217 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: That being said, you did touch on a couple of things, 218 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: and and that is is the that when when you 219 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: think about offensive line, particularly at center for the Jets, 220 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: all you thought about was consistency, competence, balance. And there 221 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: they are again, those funny little tough to understand athletic 222 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: descriptors I just described mangled. You just talked about their 223 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about guys. One's got a gold jacket. 224 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: The other one I'm sure is going to get one 225 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: of those. Uh. But if if the Jets get three 226 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: quarters of that and in eighteen games out of McGovern 227 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: at the center position, then that's the score for the Jets. 228 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Khalil was the last such hope last year 229 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: in a prayer you know, uh, that that the Jets 230 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: line was off injured they needed They were talent pressed 231 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: on the offensive line. But I like it and there's 232 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: still room for Jonathan Harrison to be important along the 233 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: offensive line because he's able to play a lot of 234 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: different positions. Jonathan Harrison extremely dependable, solid veteran last couple 235 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: of years. He'll be back as well here to provide 236 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: some of that depth on that offensive line and really 237 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: one of the key cogs that you would hope to 238 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: have from a successful unit, that center position, that anchor. 239 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: So if it ends up being Connumer, Governor also has 240 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: experienced playing guard, we'll see how that plays out here. 241 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: A guard by trade that the Jets also brought in. 242 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: Greg greg is Greg Van Roten, a local product from 243 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: Long Island. He's well traveled, actually spent some time in 244 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: this thefl before he settled in with the Carolina Panthers 245 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons. You're talking about a guy 246 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: who's undrafted, you know, so he has always had a 247 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: little bit of a chip on his shoulder with something 248 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: to prove. But another one of these guys that's versatile 249 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: and can play multiple positions on that line. Yeah, it's 250 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: just I guess he's in a sixth year. He's uh, 251 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: he's a he's a pretty good player. We're all got 252 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: to find out what a ceiling is, obviously, but I 253 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: think they signed him at three years at three and 254 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: a half million per But since the NFL began weaponizing 255 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: the forward pass, which and part of that was the 256 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: quarterback the NTZ, that's the no touch zone and wide 257 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: receivers without you can't touch a wide receiver and the 258 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: whole rules are incredible to me. And by calling quarterback 259 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: roughings through fingerprint analysis. Nowadays, it's never been more important 260 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: than to pass protect for just another half a second, 261 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: not for forty two seconds. Give me another half a 262 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: second for the kid to look over here or look 263 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: over there, or sidesteps something. Some people made the minutes 264 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: like a Van Roton's worth by evaluating as you as 265 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: you started off with, as unable to be a difference maker, 266 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: so to speak. But I'll take confidence and balance at 267 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: the offensive guard position. In today's I don't have to 268 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: run the ball to score NFL. Let me tell you something. 269 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: I think it's overblown about that run stuff. Run run 270 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: gets open when they start playing nickel. You get teams 271 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: to play nickel, you're gonna run the ball out it. Well, 272 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: bottom line is I think we can all agree that 273 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: probably the guy that the Jets need to put the 274 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: most priority in is the quarterback Sam Donald to protect 275 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: that investment. Joe Douglas said on that conference call that 276 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: you know, before the first preseason game last year when 277 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: the Jets played the Giants, that Joe Douglas went up, 278 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: introduced himself to Sam Donald's parents who were at the game, 279 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: and he said, I'm gonna do everything in my power 280 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: to make sure that I give your son the best protection, 281 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: the best opportunity would be successful. The guys that we 282 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: just mentioned Greg throwing again, Alex Lewis who's resigned and 283 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna be back next year, plus the Chuma Adoga's 284 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: Jonathan Harrison's Uh. Joe Douglas still spoke highly, of course 285 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: of Brian Winters, who's a holdover and has been here 286 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: for several years. Plus whoever they enter in the draft. 287 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: There's gonna be some guys that you think that offensive line, 288 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: if they can stay healthy, they're gonna be able to 289 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: get the job done well. Certainly, just from the guys 290 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: that we mentioned right now, the Jets have taken a 291 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: nice step forward, not backwards, and not sideways to make 292 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: their offensive line better than it was last year, not 293 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: every Jet fans got a love. Now you have an 294 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: offensive line, but then what about surrounding the quarterback with 295 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: weapons to be able to distribute the football too well 296 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: the Jets have done and bringing in Breshad Perryman, who 297 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: really had a stand out close to the season last 298 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: year as a member of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now, 299 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: this is a guy that Joe Douglas is familiar with 300 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: because when Joe doug Us was winding up his team 301 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: there or his time with the Baltimore Ravens. You know, 302 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: Harriman was the first round pick four of them in 303 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen, so it's not too far removed 304 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: from that time. He's got talent. I mentioned last year 305 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers final five games of the season, 306 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: Greg he catches five hundred six yards and five touchdowns. 307 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: That was just in the last five games of the season. 308 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: His five hundred and six yards was the third most 309 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL over those last five weeks. He's a burner, 310 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: he can fly. This is something that you hope can 311 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: stress stretch the defense or stretch the opposing defense, I 312 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: should say, and give Sam Donald another playmaker to be 313 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: able to give the football to you. Well, you know me, 314 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't disagree if if if the Jets load up 315 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: on wide receivers, I mean, Breshad Perriman is in his 316 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: fourth year, I think, and I guess they signed it 317 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: for one year at six million, and then they'll see 318 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: how that works out. But the Jets need these guys, 319 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: especially the ones that can stay healthy. Some may say 320 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: it's a downgrade from Anderson, not me. I don't think so. 321 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: I think he brings speed to keep the secondary. Honest. 322 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: He may not have played up to his expectations for 323 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: the first three and a half years, but you never 324 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: know what's going on with other teams. But the NFL, 325 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: which is dan as you and I both know, it's 326 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: the what have you done for me lately? Sport that 327 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: determined value, and you mentioned what he did for them lately. 328 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: He was very good at the last five or six 329 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: games that he played in. Uh. I like the fact 330 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: of of of two different things that I that I've 331 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: I've read about him and I know he's capable of 332 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: doing that is uh he's he was at eighteen yards 333 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: per reception, I mean over fifty catches. Yeah, that's pretty good. 334 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: And the other one is one drop in his last 335 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: sixty five touches. That's impressive to me. I mean, you've 336 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: got to be able to hold the ball. And you 337 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: and I have sat up in the in the press 338 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: box and just side glanced each other when a wide 339 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: receiver drops the ball to trite in their hands or 340 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: a tight end of dropped it in their hands, or 341 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: the running back to Dropson catch the ball. And so far, 342 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: I think that this kid is going to be able 343 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: to do it. You mentioned Robby Anderson. He's moved on 344 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: to the CAROLINEA Panthers. You wish him well, of course, 345 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: so Perriman hopefully will help make up for that loss 346 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: of speed and that vertical threat that Robby Anderson certainly provided. 347 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: But Jamison Crowder had a very successful season last year 348 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: for the Jets. He's gonna be back in the mix 349 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: along with you know, the youngsters, Braxton Berrios, Vincent Smith, 350 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: Josh Dotson, a number of another former number one pick 351 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: who hasn't really found that footing yet in the National 352 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Football League. Jets will see what they can get from him. 353 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: And another thing to remember, Greg, don't forget Chris Herndon 354 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: is going to be healthy again and be back and 355 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: after what was a promising rookie season last year was 356 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: pretty much a wash form because of a multitude of injuries. 357 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: Think about having a healthy Chris Herndon what that can 358 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: do for Sam Donald in the offense. Now to go 359 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: with Ryan Griffin who stepped in and was very valuable 360 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: at tight end last year. Having all those pieces together, 361 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: plus whatever maybe receiver or target you bring in with 362 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: the draft, Sam Donald's going to have his choices here 363 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: to be able to make plays with. Well, you mentioned 364 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: one guy that I mean, I I was tickled pink 365 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: about and and most of its pink is not my 366 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: favorite cup, my favorite color. But when a tight end 367 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: catches a ball, turns and goes upfield and scores and 368 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: out run safeties, that's that's that to me is a 369 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: real tight end. There's not a tight end in this 370 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: league unless you can find one, since I don't know 371 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: who can block a defensive end. So you're talking about 372 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: the tight ends that are able to get in front 373 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: of people. Like just put a trash can in front 374 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: of a garbage truck. You'll swerve to get around the 375 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: trash can, but you got to get in front of people. 376 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: And that's what he does and by away he catches 377 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: the ball. We talked about it with his hands, he 378 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: makes moves, he gets first downs, and he can run 379 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: after the catch. I think I think he could be 380 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: around here for a for a few more years, if 381 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: not more, the rest of his career. Dan Gross and 382 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: Greg Buttle hanging out with you on the Official Jets 383 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. Let's foot over to 384 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball here to see her 385 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: climbing aboard formerly of the Indianapolis Colds. He was cutting 386 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: a cost saving move by Indianapolis and he said that 387 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: it was just half an hour later where his agent 388 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: heard from the Jets and it turned out to be 389 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: a fit that worked. And this is a guy who 390 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: was battled some injuries last year and maybe that contributed 391 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: to a little bit of a lapse in his performance. 392 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: But a couple of seasons ago, Greg, in twenty eighteen, 393 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: he really was outstanding for Indianapolis. You think about the 394 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: battles he had with DeAndre Hopkins in the Houston Texans 395 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: that playoff game. Hopkins one of the best wide receivers 396 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: in the sport, and to see her pretty much shut 397 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: him down in for a cornerback position that's going to 398 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: have a little bit of chain as from last season 399 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: to see here as a guy that Jehope is going 400 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: to come in here and make a nice impact. Well, 401 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: I I really think so. I mean, if you if 402 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: you really take a look ab at it. From all 403 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: the guys that that Douglas has brought in so far, 404 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: he's he's one of those guys that he's he is, 405 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: he's starting caliber. Whether whether you can uh switch him 406 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: in and out if you want, I don't know about it. 407 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: You know what happens when guys get injured. You know 408 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: it's uh, the more positions players can play, the better 409 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: you are. But I will tell you one thing. You've 410 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: got a couple of young guys on the Jets, Mallett 411 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: and Brian Pool, who seemed to play pretty well as 412 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: you're young, getting part of the system. So maybe things 413 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: are looking up to the Jets secondary that you don't 414 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: recognize just yet because some guys are coming into their own. 415 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: You mentioned Brian Pool, he was resigned. That's a big 416 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: guy to get back into the fold here does such 417 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: a good job in that slot. And you mentioned, you know, 418 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: all these different faces that the Jets had to play 419 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: last year because of injuries and whatnot. At the cornerback position, 420 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: Greg Williams given credit with his scheme. He put those 421 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: chess pieces on the board and he made it work. 422 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: And you know, you would expect the same thing again. 423 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: Also the linebacker position, Jordan Jenkins back in the fold. 424 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: He resigned, Neville Hewitt, James Burgess. Guys who were pressed 425 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: into duty because of all those injuries stepped up and really, 426 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: really we're solid contributors for that defense. And you know, 427 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: you talk about the overall depth, Greg, it's nice to 428 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: just say, Okay, these are our eleven starters, and these 429 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: are the same guys that are gonna play each and 430 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: every down for sixteen games. That doesn't happen. You know that. 431 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: I know that anybody who watches football knows that. So 432 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: to have a bunch of players who have proven capable 433 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: that they can get the job done. Having an embarrassment 434 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: of riches with depth, I think is certainly everything that 435 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: a football team wants. Yeah, you know what, I don't 436 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: disagree with you. But the tough part about depth is 437 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: depth always makes you go broke and and and the 438 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: problem with that is that everybody wants more money and 439 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: everybody wants to get more money, and which I don't 440 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: blame them, but that becomes the problem. So you really 441 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: have to look at situation substitution, especially on defense, because 442 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: that's all that is, even even your defensive line, and 443 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: these guys don't play every play in a row. They're in, 444 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: they're out. They's got new guys coming in, new guys 445 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: going out. So when you talk about a defensive player, 446 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: and I would tell you, other than your your four 447 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: secondary guys, the two corners and the two safeties, everybody's 448 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: not playing every single play. If you're playing every single play, 449 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: that means as a linebacker, you're not only starting as 450 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: a linebacker, but you're in the nickel packages and you're 451 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: in the dime packages. Very rare, do you see that? 452 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: So what you need to make sure is no matter 453 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: who you're getting, that you have the capability of switching 454 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: guys in and out for their best ability at what 455 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: they can do, whether it's covering it back out of 456 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: the backfield, whether it's a guy that really can cover 457 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: down the seam against the tight end this running a 458 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: seam route and a cover two. So that you have 459 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: these linebackers that are first and foremost smart, second well balanced, 460 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: and third just hard nosed. I think that these are 461 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: some of the guys that you just mentioned mentioned the draft. 462 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: Jets will pick eleventh in the first round. They have 463 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: eight picks total, four of the top eighties selections in 464 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: this draft because they have two third round picks. So 465 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of talent that could be had, 466 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: certainly and brought into this organization. You expect Joe Douglas 467 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: and his staff to do their due diligence as far 468 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: as that's concerned. But stepping apart from just the Jets 469 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: for a second here, Greg, when you look at the 470 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: landscape of the a f C East, for the better 471 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: part of two decades, it's been dominated by the New 472 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: England Patriots Tom Brady. They've won the division all but 473 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: two years since two thousand one. They don't have to 474 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: worry about Tom Brady anymore, at least haunting them in 475 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: the a f C East, because he's taken his talents 476 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: down to Tampa Bay. Two quarterback the bucket years. So 477 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're the Jets, You're the Dolphins, 478 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: you're the Bills. Opportunity has certainly found you, has it? Not? Well? Listen, 479 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: you can't count the Patriots is dead yet until you 480 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: go to their funeral. So maybe that's what's going to 481 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: happen this year. They're gonna find out how good they 482 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: can be without Brady or are you going to find 483 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: out how bad they are without him? So that's a 484 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: big if you think everyone else in the a f C. 485 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: East is licking their chops. I can only imagine what's 486 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: going up there in New England about who's going to 487 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: be their quarterback, how is their offense going to be run, 488 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: what changes are they making, and and I don't think 489 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: that there's any coach better to do that right now 490 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: in the league than Bill Belichick. So everybody's eyes will 491 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: be on Bill Belichick, absolutely, and I mean certainly. The 492 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, who had a successful season last year, made 493 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they brought in a couple of key 494 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: editions so far this off season, and Stefon Digs Mario 495 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: Addison talk about the Dolphins how their play improved down 496 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: the stretch for them, and they went out and brought 497 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: in some big ticket free agents Byron Jones, Kyle van Noy, 498 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson, and of course we talked about the Jets here. 499 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: So I think that everybody wants to improve and get 500 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: to where the Patriots have been for the last two decades. 501 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: And it's not gonna be easy, and a lot of 502 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: things are gonna have to go your way. As we said, 503 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, you have to have good health and those 504 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: type of things when you want to have a successful season. 505 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: But that one guy, at least number twelve, is not 506 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: going to be someone that the Jets are gonna have 507 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: to face twice a season, or anybody else in the 508 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: a f C East. But there is a lot of 509 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: optimism I think as we continue on in this offseason 510 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: and begin to look ahead to what the team is 511 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: going to look like. In Greg well, no one, No 512 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: one ran an offense better, uh in the NFL outside 513 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: of Peyton Manning then Tom Brady. So I don't think 514 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: you're getting another Tom Brady back there tomorrow. Let's just 515 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: be frank about it. Now, someone may step in there 516 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: and do that, but no, now's the time. Now it's 517 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: the time to feast, and now it's the time to 518 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: be there. But like you said, there's other teams in 519 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: the a f C East. Now I'm not talking about 520 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: Miami just yet. I mean, Fitzpatrick is an up and 521 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: down quarterback. You never know what's going to happen with him. 522 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: But as you can see, a lot of these teams 523 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: are looking at special guys, wide receivers, tight ends, running 524 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: guys that can catch the ball. This is throwing catch guys. 525 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: This is not run the ball down someone's throat. And 526 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: if you really wanted to make a microcosm out of 527 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, that last Super Bowl, which was spectacular my 528 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: my estimation, had a team that like to run it 529 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: and pound it at you and another team they like 530 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: to throw it. Which team won and it didn't take 531 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: them long to win. They took them two minutes, it 532 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: happened to be the last two minutes. But they weren't 533 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: running the ball to win. They were throwing the ball. 534 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: And that, to me is what is so specific about 535 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: the NFL. Now, all of the all of the people 536 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: that are in fantasy football, to think, the general managers 537 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: and all those type of things that look at it 538 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: are are always about points for running backs and receivers 539 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: and those things. But you mark my words, the way 540 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: the rules are in the NFL, it's only getting better 541 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: and easier to throw and catch a football Greg Buttle, 542 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: a staunch advocate of the forward pass, and don't forget 543 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: there's gonna be one extra playoff team two in each 544 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: conference next year. We can get into that next time. Greg, 545 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: this was a thrill to do, my friend. Let's do 546 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: it again soon, and once again want to give a 547 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: shout out to all the healthcare workers and everybody on 548 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: the front line as we continue to battle the coronavirus 549 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: pandemic out there. Everybody be safe and we look forward 550 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: to seeing you, hearing you everything again once the season 551 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: rolls around in a pact met Life Stadium. But Greg, 552 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: this was a blast, my friend. You and your family 553 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: be safe, and we'll get to do this soon. That's 554 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: I think that's great. Thank you very much. All the 555 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: Jet fans get ready. This is this is really the 556 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: beginning of what the Jets are going to be in 557 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: the future. He's Greg Buttle on Dan Grasso. This has 558 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: been the Official Jets podcast, powered by Amazon Web Services.