WEBVTT - Greeting Cards

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Holly

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<v Speaker 1>Frye and I'm Tracy V. Wilson. Today's episode is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of personal therapy for me. Yeah, in the dingiest way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not deep. I am working through my personal feelings

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<v Speaker 1>about greeting cards lately. Here's why. Okay, I am trying desperately,

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<v Speaker 1>as a natural born clutterbug who also married another clutterbug,

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<v Speaker 1>to just get rid of the stuff in our house

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<v Speaker 1>that is hoggin' up space, sure, which includes the backlog

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<v Speaker 1>of greeting cards. And I'm trying to set some rules

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<v Speaker 1>and consider which ones have value and why. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course that led me to go, where did these come from?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we doing this? And then it came a

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<v Speaker 1>history project. There we go, because that way I can

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<v Speaker 1>parse it and think about their origin point, and that

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<v Speaker 1>will help me make the rules that will enable me

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<v Speaker 1>to more clearly decide on the fly do I keep

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<v Speaker 1>this one for sentimental posterity reasons or can I toss

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<v Speaker 1>this one? I think it has actually worked, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, we're going to talk about greeting cards today

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<v Speaker 1>as I always say with any of these, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wide survey type things, not comprehensive. Obviously, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about some global history, but as we

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<v Speaker 1>go on, a lot of it becomes about England and

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<v Speaker 1>the US, because frankly, these are the places most obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with greeting cards as we know them today. But it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a fun little trip around the world before that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In The Romance of Greeting Cards, written but in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six by Ernest Dudley Chase, there's a passage that

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<v Speaker 1>reads quote, who can tell who originated the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>sending a word of greeting? If it were possible to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to that faraway age when the cave man

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<v Speaker 1>roamed the earth, and when there was no written word

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<v Speaker 1>and probably little spoken word, we would doubtless find that

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<v Speaker 1>greetings of friendship or symbols of a desire to be friendly,

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<v Speaker 1>were sent or carried from one to another in the

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<v Speaker 1>form of a sign, a leaf from a tree, a flower,

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<v Speaker 1>a bright feather from some beautiful jungle bird, a stone,

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<v Speaker 1>a crystal, or any one of a thousand and one

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<v Speaker 1>objects that might have been recognized as a token of courtesy,

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<v Speaker 1>good cheer and friendliness. And it's true we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the origin of one human giving another person a token

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<v Speaker 1>of greeting, but there are some obvious precursors to the

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<v Speaker 1>modern day greeting card. Two places are usually invoked in

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<v Speaker 1>discussions of early greeting cards. We're using the term greeting

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<v Speaker 1>cards pretty loosely at this point, but those places are

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<v Speaker 1>Egypt and China. In ancient Egypt, early greeting cards were

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<v Speaker 1>not cards at all, but they were sometimes bugs, well,

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<v Speaker 1>at least representations of them, specifically scareb beetles, which were

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<v Speaker 1>considered a sacred symbolic representation of the god Capri. So

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<v Speaker 1>just as scaubs rolled dung to create balls that are

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<v Speaker 1>suitable for laying eggs, in Capri was believed to roll

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<v Speaker 1>the disc of the sun across the sky. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have been to any museum with even a small Egyptian collection,

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<v Speaker 1>you almost certainly have seen scaubs represented in beads, amulets,

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<v Speaker 1>and other artifacts. Scabs came in various forums associated with

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<v Speaker 1>different meanings, and they often had things written on their underside.

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<v Speaker 1>This could include things like names, mottos, or prayers, but

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<v Speaker 1>some had inscriptions that appear to be well wishes or greetings,

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<v Speaker 1>suggesting that they were given as gifts to convey those

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<v Speaker 1>wishes and greetings. These were usually inscribed with messages of

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<v Speaker 1>good luck. They were associated with New Year's greetings as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Papyrus was also used to send messages of good will

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<v Speaker 1>or cheer in Egypt for centuries, and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I read about this suggested that even if

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<v Speaker 1>there was nothing inscribed on it, it has been interpreted

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<v Speaker 1>by some historians that if you gave someone a scarab

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<v Speaker 1>at the start of a new year, it was still

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<v Speaker 1>meant to convey these ideas of good greetings and good cheer.

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<v Speaker 1>China's history with the idea of sending warm wishes to

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<v Speaker 1>others is linked to wooden greeting tablets, which date as

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<v Speaker 1>far back as the Han dynasty in the third century BCE,

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<v Speaker 1>and which remained in use well into the fourth century.

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<v Speaker 1>These visiting cards could be very basic, with a name, address,

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps a job title. Another type of card, which

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<v Speaker 1>is more like the idea of a greeting card we

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<v Speaker 1>would use that term today, could include more space civic

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<v Speaker 1>and personal greetings. The earliest archaeological finds of these types

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<v Speaker 1>of wooden greetings was pretty recent. It was in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirties, and it actually took several decades for enough

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<v Speaker 1>of them to be unearthed that researchers started to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on them. These were used as communication among officials and

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<v Speaker 1>dignitaries as a means to show respect as well as

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain connection and good relations. One, for example, that

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<v Speaker 1>was translated by Maxim Korokov, was mentioned in his twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twelve paper Greeting tablets in early China Some traits of

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<v Speaker 1>the communicative etiquette of officialdom in light of newly excavated inscriptions,

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<v Speaker 1>reads simply quote youth huang chaw bows repeatedly asks for

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<v Speaker 1>your well being, and then it includes the name and

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<v Speaker 1>the country of the sender. That paper will of course

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<v Speaker 1>be in our show notes. It is a deep and

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<v Speaker 1>detailed dive into these missives, So if you are interested,

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<v Speaker 1>I have you set up with reading material. An article

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<v Speaker 1>from South China Morning Post written earlier this year That's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six by weekek Kun notes that early New

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<v Speaker 1>Year greeting card exchanges in China were very formal. They

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<v Speaker 1>sound a little stressful for these reasons. The traditional card

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<v Speaker 1>was a calling card for the new year, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were a lot of social rules around them, and the

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<v Speaker 1>contents of the greeting had to be way more than

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<v Speaker 1>just the simple happy holidays that less enough on a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of modern cards. The development of the paper industry

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<v Speaker 1>also meant these greetings had enabled the transition from those

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<v Speaker 1>inscribed pieces of thin wood as the means to send

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<v Speaker 1>greetings to more manageable paper cards. The earliest paper cards

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<v Speaker 1>in China are believed to have been spring festival cards

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<v Speaker 1>that became popular in the Tong dynasty in the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>to tenth centuries. Over time, time, other events in holidays

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<v Speaker 1>included greeting cards like the New Year, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>these New Year's cards that became so important that a

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<v Speaker 1>poorly written greeting could really damage a person's social standing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very stressful to me. But according to Wee Kakun's article,

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of several hundred years, these earnest missives

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<v Speaker 1>took on a new role as a way for corrupted

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<v Speaker 1>bureaucracy to send bribes and expensive gifts to one another

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<v Speaker 1>to grease the wheels of government. Eventually, greeting cards in

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<v Speaker 1>China moved from the realm of the wealthy, elite and

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<v Speaker 1>political to something that everyday people shared with one another.

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<v Speaker 1>This includes the traditional red packets given it New Years.

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<v Speaker 1>There's are the red envelopes with a greeting on the

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<v Speaker 1>outside printed in gold with money tucked into them. These

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<v Speaker 1>are given by married people to the next generation, and

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<v Speaker 1>they too have their own customs and etiquette, like only

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<v Speaker 1>using fresh crisp new bills and in even numbered amounts,

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<v Speaker 1>with eight being the luck keist and four being an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute no now because that number represents death in Chinese culture.

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<v Speaker 1>In ancient Rome, it was common practice to give laurel

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<v Speaker 1>branches that were coded in gold as a wish of

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<v Speaker 1>good fortune for the new year, and this eventually evolved

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<v Speaker 1>into imagery of those gold branches being used on objects

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<v Speaker 1>with New Year's greetings, which then eventually transitioned to versions

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<v Speaker 1>written on leaves of paper. This led to the practice

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<v Speaker 1>of written greetings being adopted throughout Europe. These remained largely

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<v Speaker 1>a way to celebrate the new year and share hopes

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<v Speaker 1>for a good year ahead with friends and business associates.

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<v Speaker 1>Wood engravers also started to produce small prints that served

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<v Speaker 1>as a means of conveying these greetings, but Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the cards that were given to people in Europe during

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<v Speaker 1>this early phase of greeting cards were handmade. Soon the

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<v Speaker 1>practice expanded beyond the New Year, people started writing Valentine's cards.

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<v Speaker 1>The oldest Valentine card on is a small piece of

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<v Speaker 1>paper written in fourteen fifteen by Charles, the first Duke

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<v Speaker 1>Dorleon to his wife von Darmignuc at the time he

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<v Speaker 1>was captive in the Tower of London. He had been

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<v Speaker 1>captured following the Battle of Agincour, in which France was

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<v Speaker 1>soundly defeated by England. His wife was younger than him,

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<v Speaker 1>which he referenced in the card. They had gotten married

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<v Speaker 1>in fourteen ten, when he was just eleven years old

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<v Speaker 1>and he was sixteen. At the time of his capture,

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<v Speaker 1>he was twenty one, and he wrote her this poem

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<v Speaker 1>on a card to be carried by a messenger. It went,

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<v Speaker 1>I am already love sick, my very gentle Valentine, since

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<v Speaker 1>for me we were born too late, and I, for you,

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<v Speaker 1>was born too soon. God forgives him who has estranged

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<v Speaker 1>me from you for the whole year. I am already

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<v Speaker 1>love sick, my very gentle Valentine. Well might I have

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<v Speaker 1>suspected that such a destiny thus would have happened this day,

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<v Speaker 1>how much that love would have be commanded. I am

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<v Speaker 1>already love sick, my very gentle Valentine. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that translation, which is partly mine, on Friday. Sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them would never see each other again,

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<v Speaker 1>as Charles was held captive in England for twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>years and Bunn died before his release. He left behind

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<v Speaker 1>a significant body of poetry, though he's considered one of

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<v Speaker 1>the great court poets, and he began a trend that

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<v Speaker 1>became a tradition of cards that bordered on being love

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<v Speaker 1>letters being sent as greetings. Coming up, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a book designed to help people write something valuable in

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<v Speaker 1>their greeting cards, but first we will take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor break. The problem of how to write a good

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<v Speaker 1>greeting wasn't only an issue in Chinese greeting card history.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have struggled with what to write

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<v Speaker 1>in cards because not everyone was as good with words

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<v Speaker 1>as the Duke d'arleon. In sixteen sixty nine, a book

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<v Speaker 1>called a Valentine Writer was published, and it featured a

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<v Speaker 1>collection of verses that someone who might be struggling with

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<v Speaker 1>what to write on a card could use. It also

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<v Speaker 1>featured a printed Valentine on its frontispiece, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>widely believed to be the first printed Valentine. The first

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<v Speaker 1>standalone pre printed Valentine's card is really not known with certainty,

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<v Speaker 1>but there is one candidate that was submitted to the

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<v Speaker 1>BBC by the Castle Museum, York, and this card features

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<v Speaker 1>a very ornate floral border that's been punched to look

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<v Speaker 1>like lace and a central image of a woman in

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<v Speaker 1>a blue dress. The interior of this printed message reads quote,

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<v Speaker 1>since on this ever happy day, all nature's full of

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<v Speaker 1>love and play, yet harmless still if my design 'tis

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<v Speaker 1>but to be your Valentine? That printed in January seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven in London. The card that is in the

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<v Speaker 1>Castle Museum's collection also includes a handwritten note on the card,

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<v Speaker 1>and that sounds maybe less romantic, a little more annoyed, perturbed.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe uh we can take a look though. It reads quote,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Brown, as I have repeatedly requested you to come,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you must have some reason for not complying

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<v Speaker 1>with my request. But as I have something particular to

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<v Speaker 1>say to you, I could wish you make it all

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<v Speaker 1>agreeable to come on Sunday next without fail, and in

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<v Speaker 1>doing you will oblige your well wisher. Catherine moss Day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what that was about. I'm very curious

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on between Catherine moss Day and mister Brown. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Brown. Did she love you and it was unrequited?

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<v Speaker 1>Or did you owe her money? I don't know. Something.

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<v Speaker 1>I can write a whole thing. Even with books like

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<v Speaker 1>a Valentine Writer and the rise of cards with pre

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<v Speaker 1>printed sentiments, Valentine cards were still something that was considered

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a luxury. It actually wasn't until the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds when Britain's uniform penny post made the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of sending such cards something that was in the grasp

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<v Speaker 1>of more of the population. Christmas cards actually came a

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<v Speaker 1>bit later in the game. This was not because people

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<v Speaker 1>were not sending Christmas greetings, but the tradition in England

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<v Speaker 1>and other parts of Europe was to send Christmas letters

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<v Speaker 1>to friends and loved ones, to share wishes for the

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<v Speaker 1>good holidays and a prosperous New Year, and to catch

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<v Speaker 1>people up on the happenings in your life. Just like

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<v Speaker 1>modern Christmas or end of year letters tend to be

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<v Speaker 1>for people who are more motivated than me to send

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<v Speaker 1>such things. But in eighteen forty three that changed thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to Henry Cole. As the Christmas season of eighteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>three approached, Cole, who was a Public Records Office administrator,

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<v Speaker 1>was experiencing a bit of dread at the thought of

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<v Speaker 1>writing Christmas letters because he was very fortunate and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a wide circle of friends, and that meant he

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<v Speaker 1>needed to write a lot of letters, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>also just tight on time. He was already receiving letters

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<v Speaker 1>from other people, but he couldn't imagine ever being able

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<v Speaker 1>to respond to them all. It would have been considered

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<v Speaker 1>very impolite not to do so, so he came up

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<v Speaker 1>with an idea. Rather than do the very impolite thing

0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.320
<v Speaker 1>of leaving a letter unanswered, he thought he could maybe

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<v Speaker 1>commission an artist to create something that could be printed

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<v Speaker 1>in bulk, so he could send the same thing to

0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:51.080
<v Speaker 1>everyone and streamline his holiday correspondence responsibilities. And the artist

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<v Speaker 1>that he asked was J. C. Horsley. Worsley was quite

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<v Speaker 1>famous as a painter, even though in eighteen forty three

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<v Speaker 1>he was still just twenty six. He had at that

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<v Speaker 1>point exhibited a number of paintings at the Royal Academy.

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<v Speaker 1>He had won a number of accolades. Even so, his

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<v Speaker 1>reputation was not as impressive as it would one day become.

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<v Speaker 1>Cole gave Horselee a brief on what he had in

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<v Speaker 1>mind for an image. He wanted a family sitting down

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<v Speaker 1>to a holiday feast, but he also wanted to depict

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<v Speaker 1>them doing good works and helping the less fortunate. So

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<v Speaker 1>Horseley came up with a three part image. The central

0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and largest section features the feast, and then it is

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<v Speaker 1>separated from each side by a framework of wood and foliage.

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<v Speaker 1>In the left section we see a man handing out

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<v Speaker 1>food to a woman and child, and then the right

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<v Speaker 1>section depicts a woman draping a blanket or a cloak

0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:47.840
<v Speaker 1>around another woman. A drape of fabric beneath that main

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<v Speaker 1>image of the feast reads a Merry Christmas and a

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year to you, and at the top was

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<v Speaker 1>a line that just said two and a blank for

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the recipient. Popule loved the result, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had one thousand copies printed on heavy card stock.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to be printed in you could say it's

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<v Speaker 1>black and white. It was actually kind of a CPA

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<v Speaker 1>tone and then hand painted, and the result is that

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<v Speaker 1>the central image is in full color, while the side

0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.080
<v Speaker 1>images are in softer, more diluted tones. This is also

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<v Speaker 1>why if you look at images of this card online,

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<v Speaker 1>because a number have survived, they may all look a

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<v Speaker 1>little different. It's because of the hand painting. These cards

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<v Speaker 1>were quite small. They were five and one eighth by

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<v Speaker 1>three and one quarter inches for reference, This is a

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<v Speaker 1>little smaller than the most common postcard size today, which

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<v Speaker 1>is four by six inches, and Cole sent these out.

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<v Speaker 1>This apparently actually upset some people, but not because it

0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.640
<v Speaker 1>broke the social more of penning a personalized letter. The

0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.160
<v Speaker 1>problem was that the children in the image are shown

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<v Speaker 1>drinking from wineglasses, and a number of temperance minded people

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<v Speaker 1>on Cole's list thought that was very in a prop

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<v Speaker 1>This was a time in England when the temperance movement

0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.040
<v Speaker 1>had a big surge. But nevertheless, there were people in

0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.560
<v Speaker 1>his circle that thought this was a brilliant idea, and

0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:14.119
<v Speaker 1>they copied it and started sending Christmas cards as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Although it did not become a common practice until later

0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:21.560
<v Speaker 1>in the eighteen hundreds, Henry Cole won a design prize

0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.080
<v Speaker 1>in a contest sponsored by Prince Albert just two years

0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.880
<v Speaker 1>after his Christmas card debuted, and he was instrumental in

0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.359
<v Speaker 1>conceptualizing and mounting of the eighteen fifty one Great Exhibition

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<v Speaker 1>as well as the Victoria and Albert Museum. He was

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<v Speaker 1>knighted in eighteen seventy five. Yeah, he was pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Greeting cards became popular in the US very shortly after

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<v Speaker 1>they did in England, and one of the first entrepreneurs

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<v Speaker 1>to really take advantage of the interest that people had

0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.880
<v Speaker 1>in this new way to let people know you were

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of them was a woman from Worcester, Massachusetts named

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<v Speaker 1>Esther Howland. After Esther graduated from Mount Holyoke in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven, she founded her own business after receiving a

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine card from England. I read one account that said

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<v Speaker 1>this card came from one of her father's associates. She

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<v Speaker 1>had the idea that she could design and sell her

0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:16.280
<v Speaker 1>own Valentine cards and then have her brother, who worked

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<v Speaker 1>for the family business, take orders for them whenever he

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<v Speaker 1>went on sales calls. His first time out, it said

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<v Speaker 1>that Esther had a goal that he would get two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars worth of orders for them, and then when

0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.960
<v Speaker 1>he came home he had actually had five thousand dollars

0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:35.720
<v Speaker 1>worth of orders, which is quite significant. These are really

0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.320
<v Speaker 1>lovely little art pieces. They often combined fabric and lace

0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:43.080
<v Speaker 1>with paper to create ornate designs that contained little poems

0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.280
<v Speaker 1>as the greeting for the first batch of samples they

0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.120
<v Speaker 1>had used for those sales calls. Esther had made them

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<v Speaker 1>by herself after convincing her father to get her all

0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:55.399
<v Speaker 1>the needed supplies, but as those huge orders rolled in,

0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.199
<v Speaker 1>she knew she needed a staff to keep up, and

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<v Speaker 1>she sometimes described as having actually created the first assembly

0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.879
<v Speaker 1>line because she hired several other women friends of hers,

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<v Speaker 1>and each of them had a specific component of the

0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:12.119
<v Speaker 1>card that they were responsible for adding. Ester wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>first person in the US to produce Valentine cards, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was the first to create a line that felt

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<v Speaker 1>special and could compete with the ones that were imported

0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:25.359
<v Speaker 1>from Europe. By eighteen fifty, her line had expanded and

0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.399
<v Speaker 1>her company was advertising a whole product line, which ranged

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.800
<v Speaker 1>in price from five cents to a dollar. Her most

0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:36.840
<v Speaker 1>expensive cards had tiny springs tucked in between layers of

0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.160
<v Speaker 1>lace and printed imagery, so when you pulled them out

0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of the envelope, they'd sort of fluff up and create

0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:47.280
<v Speaker 1>a lux three dimensional shadow box effect. Others in the

0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:51.000
<v Speaker 1>premium category had layers and layers of silk and lace

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.760
<v Speaker 1>that could be unfolded and reveal a beautiful picture inside.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon she expanded to make cards for other occasions like Christmas,

0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:03.159
<v Speaker 1>New Year's and birthdays. Howland really drove the development of

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<v Speaker 1>the greeting card industry in the US in its earliest phase.

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Her company, which became the New England Valentine Company in

0:20:10.240 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the eighteen seventies, produced cards and also books. The New

0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:19.159
<v Speaker 1>England Valentine Company's Valentine Verse Book, for example, was a

0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:23.440
<v Speaker 1>book of decoratively printed poems so that consumers could replace

0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the verse in a purchased Valentine if they felt that

0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:28.760
<v Speaker 1>it did not suit their needs, they could just find

0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.879
<v Speaker 1>a better one in Holland's book and then cut it

0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.240
<v Speaker 1>out and paste it over the one that the card

0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:37.119
<v Speaker 1>came printed with. Esther did eventually sell her company in

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.000
<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty. That was so that she could take care

0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of her father full time. It became quite ill as

0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:43.879
<v Speaker 1>he got older, and then by the time she died

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen oh four. The greeting card was a standard

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<v Speaker 1>part of holiday culture in the US. We'll talk about

0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.400
<v Speaker 1>the early days of Christmas cards in the US after

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<v Speaker 1>we hear from some of the sponsors that keep the

0:20:55.920 --> 0:21:09.520
<v Speaker 1>show going. While Esther was building her Valentine card business,

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<v Speaker 1>another entrepreneur, Louis Prong, was focused on Christmas cards. Prong

0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.040
<v Speaker 1>was born in Breslau, Prussia, and he moved to the

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<v Speaker 1>US in the eighteen fifties after being involved in some

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionary activity in Prussia. He settled in Boston and started

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<v Speaker 1>working as a lithographer. He had learned the lithography trade

0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 1>from his father because the family couldn't afford to send

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<v Speaker 1>him to school. In the early eighteen fifties, Prong created

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<v Speaker 1>illustrations for Gleason magazine before starting the lithography company Prong

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<v Speaker 1>and Mayor with his partner Julius Mayer in eighteen fifty six.

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<v Speaker 1>He took over the business entirely four years later and

0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:51.679
<v Speaker 1>it became El Prong in Company. Prong's company printed things

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<v Speaker 1>like advertisement art and business cards, and he continued to

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<v Speaker 1>learn the latest techniques to ensure his company was producing

0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:02.800
<v Speaker 1>top quality work. In eighteen sixty four, Prong traveled to

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<v Speaker 1>Germany to learn a new technique, and that was chromo lithography.

0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Up until that point, all lithographs worked the same way

0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.120
<v Speaker 1>that Cole and Horseley had done with their cards. They

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<v Speaker 1>were printed in two color black and white or in sepia,

0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and then they were hand painted. But chromo lithography removed

0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:23.439
<v Speaker 1>the need for the hand painting step, and so you

0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:27.760
<v Speaker 1>could use multiple lithographic plates to add the color. Prong

0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:31.959
<v Speaker 1>returns to Boston completely inspired by the possibilities of this

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 1>new technique, and right from the beginning he really wanted

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:40.679
<v Speaker 1>to push chromo lithography to create incredibly complex images. He

0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:43.399
<v Speaker 1>wasn't doing just a few passes with color plates. He

0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:47.280
<v Speaker 1>was creating these vivid, deep color images using as many

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<v Speaker 1>as twenty plates per design, and in doing so he

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.159
<v Speaker 1>really set a standard in lithography that was hard for

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 1>other companies to match. In eighteen seventy five, he used

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:02.920
<v Speaker 1>that process to produce a Christmas card. Prog's card did

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:05.119
<v Speaker 1>not feature any of the symbols of the season that

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:07.879
<v Speaker 1>you might expect on a Christmas card. It was just

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.879
<v Speaker 1>an image of a flower, not a point setia, just

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<v Speaker 1>a regular flower with the words Merry Christmas underneath it.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find an image of that original eighteen seventy

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>five card, but I did see an image of the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen seventy six card that appears to feature pink roses,

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<v Speaker 1>and two different cards from eighteen seventy seven. One of

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:31.919
<v Speaker 1>those looks like it features slightly stylized carnations, and the

0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>other looks like a spray of wild flowers, including a pansy.

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Prongs cards were so pretty that they gained popularity really quickly,

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>and over time the company started using more standard holiday imagery,

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 1>although they still outpaced other printers on quality. Prong was

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 1>reportedly selling and astonishing five million cards each year by

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<v Speaker 1>the eighteen eighties. The Prong company also initiated a very

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<v Speaker 1>popular program where it's started having contests each year for

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<v Speaker 1>aspiring artists to design the next card. This is a

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>lucrative contest. The first placed winner got one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a lot of money in eighteen eighty when

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 1>this contest started. Second, third, and fourth place also got

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>prize money in smaller increments. It also was unique in

0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.160
<v Speaker 1>that it was open to women and to men competing

0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 1>equally offering women an unusual opportunity to get their foot

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:31.440
<v Speaker 1>in the door of the commercial design market. The submissions

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 1>were displayed at the American Art Gallery, and the winner's

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>cards would be printed along with their name on the

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:40.520
<v Speaker 1>back of the card. Prong would also sometimes purchase the

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 1>rights to cards that had not been in the top four,

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>and he would sometimes sign contracts with artists from the

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:51.400
<v Speaker 1>competition as designers for the company. This made Prong cards

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>collectors items. People wanted to get the winning card every

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:58.640
<v Speaker 1>year they wanted that art. It also served another purpose.

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:01.679
<v Speaker 1>Prong always had an ey on art education, and he

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>used this contest to share information about the lithographic process

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>with the public. His company still exists today and makes

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>art supplies for the education market, which is why that

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<v Speaker 1>name sounded so familiar to me. This contest ran from

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.640
<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty to eighteen eighty four, and by the time

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>it was done, a lot of other printers were catching

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>up to Prog's level and the US greeting card market

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:29.960
<v Speaker 1>was well established. While Prong is often lauded as printing

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the first American Christmas card, there's another rarely mentioned figure

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>in card printing who put a Christmas card out in

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the late eighteen forties. That was shop owner and printer

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Richard Hps of Albany, New York. According to the Albany

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<v Speaker 1>Institute of History and Art, Peace had a card designed

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.199
<v Speaker 1>by a woman named Eliza Forbes and printed it in

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<v Speaker 1>black and white for most likely the eighteen forty nine

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>holiday season. The image is interesting because it almost feels

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.479
<v Speaker 1>like pea sore Forbes had seen a copy of the

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Coal Horsely card, maybe use that as inspiration. It features

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>a family celebrating Christmas in the center. That image spills

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.879
<v Speaker 1>over to the right and left. Along the bottom of

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the image. To the upper left is an image of

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<v Speaker 1>what looks like a holiday fancy dress ball, and to

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<v Speaker 1>the upper right is an image of the building where

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>PiS's shop was. This card was obviously intended to also

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit of advertising for the shop. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a banner of text that arches over the family, which

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>reads Peas's Great Variety Store in the Temple of Fancy.

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 1>The Temple of Fancy was the actual name of the store.

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<v Speaker 1>Under the family, the card reads a Merry Christmas in

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 1>a Happy New Year, and then there are the two

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<v Speaker 1>and from lines that have blanks for the sender to

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>fill in. It's not clear how many copies of this

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 1>card were printed, but as the messaging was specific to Albany,

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really seem like they traveled very far beyond that,

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and that account for this card being kind of a

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 1>relative unknown. I feel like I want shirts that say

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Temple of Fancy, such a great name. There was a

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>concern around this time, fueled by critics of greeting cards,

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.479
<v Speaker 1>that sending sentiments in card form was really just a

0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 1>fad and that people were going to get tired of

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 1>them in the twentieth century, But of course the opposite happened.

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Printing processes got better, so even inexpensive cards looked pretty good. Additionally,

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>life got busier for everybody. Just like Henry Cole, they

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>turned to greeting cards to ensure they stayed in touch. Additionally,

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.719
<v Speaker 1>cards more and more frequently offered ways to enjoy works

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>of art. We talked about that a little bit in

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>our episode on Tyris Wong, which came out on May

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. You want to talk about beautiful Christmas cards,

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<v Speaker 1>so pretty, that's where to look. Another earlier artist whose

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<v Speaker 1>work became coveted on greeting cards was a woman named

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Greenaway. She may very well be a topic one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Greenaway was an illustrator and she was hired by Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Worden Company, a publishing company in Belfast, Ireland that was

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<v Speaker 1>moving into the card market because they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>miss out on this new revenue. Kate's card illustrations, which

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>frequently featured children celebrating, are still reprinted commonly today. It's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to see why they're very cute. In nineteen fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>a family business was started by Joyce Hall in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>They printed their first Christmas card. As the business quickly grew,

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<v Speaker 1>Joyce's brothers also became part of the Hall company and

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<v Speaker 1>they began to focus less on the original plan of

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<v Speaker 1>postcards and more on holiday cards. Later, the company changed

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>its name to Hallmark Hallmark innovated and introducing the folded card.

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Previous greeting cards had just been one flat card a

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<v Speaker 1>lot like a postcard, but the Hall brothers wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>add more space for a sender to write in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>They also started hiring well known artists to design cards,

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<v Speaker 1>including Salvadore Dolli. The company still has the original paintings

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>for card designs by Deli and its collection. Norman Rockwell

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>was also hired to design cards for the company, and

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<v Speaker 1>his continue to be printed with some regularity. I feel

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>like Salvador Dolli has been on the show a lot lately,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just fine by me. The US greeting card

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<v Speaker 1>industry became a significant employer, with an estimated forty factories

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>operating by the late nineteen twenties, and to keep this

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<v Speaker 1>new industry lucrative, businesses focused their marketing on the idea

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the sending cards was an old tradition, even though it

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>was still pretty new. There were also charity card drives

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to drum up interest and just get people in the

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>practice of buying cards. In those cases, consumers were encouraged

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>purchase cards knowing that the proceeds or a portion of

0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the proceeds would benefit a good cause. This practice really

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<v Speaker 1>solidified with the introduction of UNICEF's first holiday card in

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty nine, and charity cards have continued consistently ever since. Today,

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the greeting card industry is in a unique position. On

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the one hand, digital cards have cut into the market significantly.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other, the United States Chamber of Commerce says

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<v Speaker 1>there's some interesting growth in the industry. For one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still huge. It's estimated to be a seven billion

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 1>dollar market annually. That is billion with a B. For another,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some interesting innovation going on within it. While Hallmark

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and American Greetings are credited with a whopping eighty percent

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 1>market share, industry leaders note that the remaining slice of

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the market is filled with smaller producers who are able

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to get into the business because of the relatively low

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>startup costs, and a lot of those folks are doing

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<v Speaker 1>really creative things. According to the Greeting Card Art Association,

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>which is like a professional org for all these companies,

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<v Speaker 1>there are two things that have fueled a new wave

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<v Speaker 1>of greeting card interest in recent years, and the first

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>is the COVID nineteen pandemic, because as people were separated

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<v Speaker 1>from loved ones and close friends, the greeting card industry

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.479
<v Speaker 1>is one of the few that actually had some growth

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 1>because people were seeking ways to stay connected that felt

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>more meaningful than simply sending a text. Another is that

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>millennials and Gen Z consumers have embraced greeting cards as

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>previous generations have lost interests. Millennials are now listed as

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the largest consumer group of greeting cards. One theory about

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>this growth is that it feels sort of retro to

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>send cards, which has appeal to younger buyers. Another is

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that there's some fresh diversity in the messaging and that

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>lets people share sentiments or laughed with loved ones through

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>a card that feels in line with their usual dynamic.

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>New holidays are also being represented. Some are old holidays

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 1>that didn't used to be associated with greeting cards, like Halloween.

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Others reflect an expanded awareness of cultural diversity, like Diwali.

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>And then, of course there are newly created holidays like

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Gallantines Day that have become popular and there are cards

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>to celebrate them. There's also a new availability of cards

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>that address more social and life moments, some of which

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>haven't historically gotten a lot of notice. On the card

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>aisle for sobriety or for a serious loss. For literally

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>any life event from puberty to gallbladder surgery, there is

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>a card. I have one that is like uh mad libs,

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>almost a lot of wild things you can choose from

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>about what you're sending your condolences for, and they're all

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>very silly. Yeah, uh yeah, we'll talk about interesting greeting

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>cards Friday. In the meantime, we're going to talk about

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>art again. Okay, but this is like some beautiful art

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>by one of our listeners, Oh yay, who claims that

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>they're not that great but is a fibber. This is

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>from our listener Kieren, who writes, Hello ladies. A bit

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>of a rambling note. But I recently decided that I

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go back and improve upon my art education

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and finally tackle learning some figure drawing. Unfortunately, my BFA

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>program was not stellar, so I missed out on a

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of foundational skills. But there's no time like the

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>present to learn is I would love to be able

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to do some fun and inclusive character design and storytelling someday.

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just starting as a February and am knee deep

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>in anatomy studies and have found that ballet dancers make

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>such excellent references to work from. That, of course, got

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>me down a whole rabbit hole of re listening to

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the two part episodes on the history of ballet, as

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:50.959
<v Speaker 1>well as the one on Jean Baptiste Lulli, which had

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>been so fun to re listen to while I draw.

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<v Speaker 1>I think It's safe to say at this point that

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>everything in life somehow connects back to one of your episodes,

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and all of my friends in really are thoroughly sick

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>of me going ooh, there's a podcast episode about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for all of the education and

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>company you provided over the years. I also recently went

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>through a big move to a new town at the

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.439
<v Speaker 1>start of this year, so having comfort media to lean

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>on in the transition has been essential. Thank you again

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>for all that you are and all that you do.

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I hope your spring season is off to as positive

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a start as possible. Questionably proportioned practice sketches attached. I

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 1>promise I will send better ones in future. These look

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<v Speaker 1>spectacular to me. I mean, I don't think these are banned.

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 1>They may be practice, but you're nailing it. Listen. We

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<v Speaker 1>love art. I love sporting artists. I love that ballet

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>was a good Dancers are a really good opportunity to

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>study the mechanics of the human body, which is very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>This also a little bit is going to relate to

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<v Speaker 1>something I'm going to talk about on Friday. So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about human figure drawing, there is comedy coming.

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