1 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: God bless football. Mike, yea God blessed football, Taylor. 2 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: God blessed football s too. 3 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: God. 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Wow. So he gave you a slight reaction there, Mike, Yeah, 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: he was. Wow. That was shocking to me. 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: Trying to put the winner toy up. 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thank you, Mike. 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 4: All we're hearing about right now is this Super Bowl 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 4: matchup's not that exciting. It's said that football is ending. 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 4: It's not sad that football is ending. It's exciting that 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 4: we have one more game left to celebrate how great 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 4: football is. 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a game that no one cares about though seemingly. 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I don't. I do. 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 5: It's a super Bowl, Okay, I'll be glued to it, 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 5: Seattle and the Patriots. It just seems like people aren't 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 5: into the Super Bowl for whatever reason. 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't. 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 5: No one cares about Seattle. Let's just start there. No 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 5: one cares. I mean outside of Seattle, nobody cares about Seattle, 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 5: that city, the Seahawks or their teams. 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: No one cares about it. 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 5: And then you have a media who's upset that they're 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 5: traveling halfway across the ball. They're traveling across the fucking 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 5: entire country to cover a game they don't care about. 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: That's what the media dictates. 27 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 5: It drives the enthusiasm for these games, don't you guys 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 5: realize that? 29 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's part of it where I think you 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 4: are what you think. So if you keep thinking nobody's 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 4: exciting for the super Bowl, you're going to find yourself 32 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 4: feeling down about this super Bowl matchup. I'm choosing to 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: live it as Hey, two great teams, two great defenses, 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: two quarterbacks that this Super Bowl could really help their legacy. 35 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 3: I'm all in on the super Bowl, right, two beginnings 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: of a possible dynasty. How about that? 37 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: And that bus right? 38 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 5: A possible dynasty, but a dynasty that yes, but if 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 5: either team had that dynasty a we'd be pissed off 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 5: with the Patriots. 41 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: If they had another dynasty. Right? 42 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, right, And like I said earlier, no one 43 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 5: cares see Attleica win ten super Bowls in a row, 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 5: and still nobody would care. 45 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: Seriously, I think you can make the argument that every 46 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: team that's about to play for a championship is on 47 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 4: the verge of a dynasty. 48 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: No, yes, yes, put it on the pole. 49 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 5: Can you make a case for any team on the 50 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 5: verge of winning a championship. 51 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Also being on the verge of a dynasty. 52 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, every dynasty starts with some one. They shouldn't be here, 53 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: but they are moment and here we are. 54 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: Also, put on the poll, does every dynasty start with 56 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,559 Speaker 4: one championship? 57 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: It has to exactly. 58 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: What else would it start with? 59 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 5: I mean, who won the NBA Championship last year, Oklahoma City. Yes, 60 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 5: that was the start of a potential dynasty there you 61 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 5: gods the Dodgers. Fact Dodgers are in the middle of 62 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 5: a dynasty right now. Yes, but they had to win 63 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 5: one in order to start the dynasty. 64 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: You're right, It's a great point. 65 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: Tail I'm saying is we could be getting in on 66 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: the ground floor of a potential dynasty. That's all I'm saying, 67 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: I know. 68 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 5: But a dynasty, particularly for me and you, Okay, a 69 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 5: dynasty that is going to piss us off either way 70 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 5: because it's either Sam Darnold's dynasty or it's the Patriots dynasty. 71 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 5: And you and I aren't gonna be happy in either scenario. 72 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 5: And I am just telling you there is not a 73 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 5: team in all of sports. I'm not certain I could 74 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 5: be wrong about this where if they did have a dynasty, 75 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 5: no one would care and Seattle is that team. I'm 76 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 5: just I'm not listen. I'm trying to get excited for 77 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 5: the game. We're going to San Francisco. We have some 78 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 5: great cast lined up. We're starting the week with Solomon Wilcotts. 79 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we are. 80 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: I've tried to get myself pumped up. 81 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 5: I am flying six and a half hours to talk 82 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 5: to Solomon Wilcotts. I have them on my fucking phone. 83 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 5: I can get them. I could text them right now. 84 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 5: We'd come on and without the flight. 85 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: Check your pulse. 86 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: If Solomon Wilcotts doesn't get you fired up for Super 87 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: Bowl Week, something's wrong. 88 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: You're right, yes, listen, I shouldn't say that about Sally. 89 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: I love Sally. That's what they call him, Taylor. When 90 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: you're friends with Solomon, his friends call him Sally. 91 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: You know, I just call him Mon. 92 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: You call him that, He's gonna fucking rip your fucking larynx. 93 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: Out's all right, We're good like that. 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: So, on the topic of dynasties, not asking you, guys, 95 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: which team is more likely to win next Sunday? 96 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, hold lot of second tailor Will Cotts or Will knots. 97 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: How about that? 98 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: Naturally? 99 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Pee of the Pool find out three o'clock. 100 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: Monday, Solomon or solah out? Wow. 101 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we might need him for two segments. 102 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: I might keep him all week. 103 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: Hosting the show him text him. 104 00:04:54,480 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: Now cuts well nuts nuts. I love that one anyway, Taylor, Yeah, 105 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: so good. Taylor. 106 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: You were saying so not asking you guys, which team 107 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 4: is more likely to win next Sunday. But if I 108 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 4: tell you five years from now, one of these two 109 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 4: teams went on to be a dynasty, which team do 110 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: you think you would pick? 111 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 5: Oh? Wow, I can't see Sam Darnald orchestrating some sort 112 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 5: of dynasty here, would see? I just can't see it. 113 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 5: I don't know why I can't see it. I should 114 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 5: be able to see it. That team's really really good. 115 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 5: The defense is really really good, the receivers are really 116 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 5: really good. 117 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: The coach appears to be excellent. 118 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: I just can't see Sam Darnold having one of those, 119 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 5: you know, four Super Bowls in six years type, like 120 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 5: a Patrick Mahomes type run. And I don't know why 121 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 5: I can see Drake May doing it. 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Taylor's right, 199 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 5: you gotta win one in order for the dynasty to start. 200 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 5: So I'm thinking of the non Super Bowl teams that 201 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 5: have the best chance over the next decade of pulling 202 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 5: off at dynasty. And I would say, for me, just 203 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 5: for me, Chicago Bears, that would be mine, just because 204 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 5: of the quarterback, that quarterback coach combination, Ben Johnson and 205 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 5: Caleb Williams, that would be me. 206 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: I'm not buying. I'm not buying it until I can 207 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: see Caleb Williams throw for better than sixty percent completion. 208 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 5: I thought you were gonna say, I'm not buying it 209 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 5: until I see KYLEB. Williams could throw in the first quarter. 210 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 5: Well that too, I mean with the second or the third. 211 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: Right, every single way the Bears won this year was like, 212 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: that'll never happen again. And then it happened again, and 213 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: it happened again. 214 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay, isn't that what happened with the Chiefs last year? 215 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: And then this year it's like, oh man, the Chiefs 216 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: must think now like I just think that. I think 217 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: the Bears are coming for a letdown season next year. 218 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: Taylor, you guys aren't gonna like my answer, I don't think. 219 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 5: Of course, these are non Super Bowl teams Seattle and 220 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 5: the Patriots, and so we're talking about the team that 221 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 5: is poised to make the next great run in the NFL. 222 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: Your answer is going to be the Chiefs. 223 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: Right now, It's not going to be the Chiefs. 224 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 4: It's a team with a youngish quarterback that went out 225 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 4: and got him the help he might have needed this offseason. 226 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: It's the Chargers. 227 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: Really. Mike McDaniel, Yeah, I like. 228 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 4: The Mike McDaniel justin Herbert connection. A lot of people 229 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 4: are down on Justin Herbert, but I'm still in the 230 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: camp that it was because of his offensive line got 231 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: that banged up. And I'm not too concerned that he 232 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 4: hasn't won a super Bowl yet because he theoretically should 233 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: still be entering his peak prime right, So I'm buying 234 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: low on the Chargers right now, before before they start ascending. 235 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: Okay, uh, this is interesting. 236 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 5: What if we did non playoff teams now, non playoff teams? 237 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: I know you are gonna say I got one. 238 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 5: Well, the Cincinnati Bengals would be an obvious one. 239 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 2: Talking about the Bengals. 240 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 5: Listen, are the non playoffs more exciting than the playoffs? 241 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 5: Put it on the pole, Taylor, because you have Lamar Jackson, 242 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 5: you have Patrick Mahomes, you have Joe Burrow. 243 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe none of those three made it to 244 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: the playoffs. 245 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 5: And and then you have John Horbaught taking over the 246 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 5: Giants and Jackson Dart who radio Row super Bowl week. 247 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait. 248 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: Yes, that's my answer. The Giants. Wow, it's really if 249 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: we're going listen, if you're throwing the Chiefs out vision, yeah, 250 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: well it's a it's a well. 251 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: Although a lot of people might say the Commanders. 252 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 5: If Jaden Daniels come back and he's the Jayden Daniels 253 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 5: we saw in his rookie season, there's a lot. 254 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: How did all these guys that make the playoffs? 255 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: Any thoughts that the lines could become a dynasty under 256 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: Dan Campbell? Or is that window kind of closed? 257 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 258 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: That windows closed? 259 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: I closed. 260 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: They got to They got a playoff running them, but 261 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: there's no dynasty coming. 262 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 5: They have one more playoff running them. 263 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: Jared Goff, he's getting older. Gotta pay guys right. 264 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: The Texans are a quarterback away. 265 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: Yep. 266 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Crazy. The Raiders are so far away. I like like 267 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: the Giants of the non playoff teams. The Giants feel 268 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: like a pretty good pick right there. They did. 269 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 5: They did, Jackson, Don't you have that? You have the 270 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: quarterback and you have the coach. I mean, the quarterback 271 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 5: is stay healthy. 272 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: The coach. 273 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: You got the left tackle, and you got the pass rusher. 274 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: You got multiple pass rushers those are like and you've 275 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: got the star receiver. You you checked a lot of 276 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: the big boxes. Now you just got to fill it 277 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: in right. 278 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: This team's not gonna be popular. And if I say 279 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: it out loud, I might like it even less. 280 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: Why it sounds better in your brain. 281 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, what about the Tennessee Titans with cam Ward and 282 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 4: their coaching staff right now, that's just a sad version 283 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: of New York coaches avengers of Robert Salah teaming up 284 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 4: with Brian Daball. 285 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: If they hit on cam Ward. 286 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: We saw what Brian Daball was able to do with 287 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 4: Jackson Dart in a limited time. There's room for potential there, 288 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: and that division should be up for the taking because 289 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 4: nobody trusts Liam Cone and Trevor Lawrence. 290 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: Right, I wish you kept that inside your head. 291 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with it. Oh yeah, right, you probably. 292 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 5: Should have said that, because perhaps I'm not gonna sit 293 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 5: here and lot to you and say I didn't think 294 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 5: about it. 295 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: I did. 296 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 5: I thought about it, and I thought about saying it 297 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 5: out loud, and then I thought better about saying it 298 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 5: out loud, and I kept it to myself because obviously, 299 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 5: cam Ward, I get what you're saying with the coaches, 300 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: but it sounded better in my head, which is why 301 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 5: it did come to air with it. 302 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: So it's not the It's not the craziest idea that 303 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: Robert sala leaves the Jets and then all of a 304 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: sudden has success. We've seen that blueprint work pretty well 305 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: around the NFL. 306 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 5: OH I can't wait to see Aaron Glenn be the 307 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 5: next fucking coach of a dynasty somewhere other than New York. 308 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: This is fucking crazy. 309 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Jets. The Jets don't fire good coaches. 310 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: They don't hire them either. They just like their players 311 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: go on to do great things else The coaches that 312 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: coaches don't. 313 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: Yes, have we ever had a coach that has gone 314 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 5: on to do great things elsewhere? I don't think if Jets, 315 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 5: no one else takes a flyer on you. I mean, 316 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 5: I think that's. 317 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: That's I mean Bill Belichick left. They didn't fire Bill, 318 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: but they wanted Bill Belichick. But I'm trying to think 319 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: like Eric Mangini went on to coach the Browns. Nope, 320 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: nothing there, Edwards went on to coach Rex Ryan went 321 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: on to coach. None of them did anything anywhere else. 322 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: I don't think they for as for a snake bitten 323 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: as they are with guys like quarterbacks and other defensive players. 324 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: Their coaches, they aren't really going to do much. 325 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 4: It's not a good sign when Todd Bowles is one 326 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: of your best examples of a coach having success elsewhere. 327 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 5: The best example, seriously, I mean Rex Ryan was the 328 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 5: greatest coach in my lifetime. I think it was him 329 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 5: or Joe Walton, but Rex Ryan back to back AFC 330 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: championship games. Rex Ryan never got another head coaching offer. 331 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 5: Think about that. 332 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: Well, he went to Buffalo. 333 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: Was he the head coach? 334 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: He was the head coach in Buffalo? 335 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? My bad? He did he partlay that into Buffalo? 336 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: Missed the playoffs, missed? 337 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 5: I forgot. I forgot Rex Ryan went to Buffalo. Wow, 338 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 5: I forgot. 339 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: That's how forgettable it was. 340 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, what, Yeah, that's exactly right. 341 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: It was the coach went a better coaching career with 342 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: the Jets, which, by the way, is we're as we're 343 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: on the topic. I have a conspiracy theory about the 344 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 3: Jets right now. I think they've already found their next 345 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: head coach. I think they're already putting him in place. 346 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: I think they're already setting it up for him. And 347 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: it was a name that was thrown out around the 348 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: Jets right now. I think they tested the waters to 349 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: see how the fan base would react with John Gruden. 350 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: How did the fan base react? 351 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: They were so they were, well, they're so into it, 352 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 3: they want him bad. They just thought it was hysterical 353 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: that the reports were that they asked John Gruden to 354 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 3: be part of Aaron Glenn's staff, which tells me by 355 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: the way, that it was Woody Johnson, the owner of 356 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: the Jets, who called John Gruden. It wasn't Aaron Glenn, 357 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 3: because there was no way Aaron Glenn called John Gruden 358 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: and said, hey, do you want to join my staff. 359 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 5: It's like Francesa said to us yesterday on the show, 360 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 5: He's lucky. Aaron Glenn is lucky that John Gruden turned 361 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 5: him down. John Gruden to be coaching that team in 362 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 5: two weeks, so I think, what, hey, John's auld probably 363 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 5: called Gruden. Gruden's like, I'm not gonna be EUROC Get 364 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 5: the fuck out of here. I'm the head coach. You 365 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 5: want me, I'm head coach. I am coming back to 366 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 5: be a head coach. I cannot believe that a guy 367 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 5: who has basically been banned from the NFL can he 368 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 5: is so desperate to get back in said no to 369 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 5: an opportunity with the Jets where he would have been 370 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 5: the OC and eventually would have been the head coach. 371 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: He said no to it because he wants to be 372 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: the head coach right now. 373 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 4: If the Jets. If the Jets hire John Gruden, there's 374 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 4: no shot his title would have been offensive coordinator. He 375 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 4: would have been head coach of the offense. 376 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: Yes, head coach of the offense, the hcof. 377 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 3: I'm picturing the moment. Probably I'm gonna go week two. 378 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: I'll give Aaron Glenn one week. I'm picturing Week two 379 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: where Gruden walks over to Glenn, sticks out his hand 380 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: and Glenn puts his head down, takes out the red 381 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: challenge flag and gives it to Gruden like this is yours. 382 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: Now ends looking over to Gruden, do we call time out? 383 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Would you take Jo? Would you take John Gruden as 384 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: your head coach? 385 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 5: The Jet fan is so desperate that might be the 386 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 5: job for John Gruden. 387 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: I think you're right, because Jet fans. 388 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 5: Are so storved, so desperate, want a winner so bad 389 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 5: that they'll take it even with John Gruden as their 390 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 5: head coach. I mean, just not a good human being. 391 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 3: They tested the waters. They said, hey, put it out 392 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 3: there that John Gruden was asked to join the staff, 393 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: and the Jet fans are like, why would you hire 394 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: him as the OC he should be the head coach, 395 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: and they're like, huh, maybe you should. I guarantee you 396 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: Week six, Woody Johnson's gonna call John Gruden to be like, listen, 397 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: start putting your staff together. I'm gonna talk to you 398 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: in about ten weeks. 399 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 5: No, I think Gruden started putting your staff together. And 400 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 5: it doesn't include Aaron Glenn's. 401 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: Well, of course it doesn't include Aaron Glenn. 402 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 4: If Gruden and Glenn were on the same coaching staff, 403 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 4: going back to that power struggle, we would get to 404 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 4: like a week four game where Aaron Glenn's on the 405 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 4: sideline calling in plays, and then then he would be like, guys, 406 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: I don't think my headsets connected's work. 407 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: It's like a slow drip, right, the headsets don't work. 408 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 5: The next day he can't his key card doesn't work 409 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 5: to get into the building. 410 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 3: He just shows up. He shows up at Gruden's at 411 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 3: his desk with his feet up. 412 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: Jake Gridden with a name plate. 413 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: We're on the door. We're gonna move office storage room B. 414 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 3: That's your new office, Aaron. 415 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 4: It's like the episode of the Office where the character 416 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: Creed they tell him he's running a blog, but he 417 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: just has a Microsoft word document open up and he's 418 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 4: just typing his thoughts in a word document. 419 00:20:52,359 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: Yes, yep, what is er doing? Did Francessa say the 420 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: Jets we're gonna get worse? 421 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: Yes? And I believe him. 422 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 4: Remember last year you said the Jets were gonna get 423 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 4: worse and they did get worse. So Frances Francis is 424 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 4: kind of doubling down there. No, I know, but what 425 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: was the record this year for the Jets? 426 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: Three and fourteen? 427 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: Right, so four and fourteen, what was the year? We're well, 428 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: I think they are five wins two years ago, right. 429 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 4: Yep, twenty twenty four they finished five and twelve. You 430 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: predicted they would get worse and they kind that's three 431 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: and fourteen, right, So that's it. 432 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 5: That's an easier prediction to make five wins going down 433 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 5: to four or three wins, that's an easy What Francessa 434 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 5: is doing is crazy. They had three wins a year 435 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 5: ago and he is saying next year they're gonna have 436 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 5: two or one. We're none possible. It's possible, well not 437 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 5: if Gruden's coaching. 438 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: Well, Gruden's not coaching next year. Gorud's not coaching next year. 439 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: They put the feelers out. They put the feelers out. 440 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: Just hey, what do you what if we brought Gruden in? 441 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 3: Would you guys be okay with it? 442 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? 443 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: And if there's ever a year to be bad? Next 444 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: year arch Manning coming out. 445 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: Arch Manning with John Gruden. 446 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 447 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well you have the Mannings letting them go to 448 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 5: the Jets and John Gruden. 449 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 3: Huh, I have I don't have them letting him go 450 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: to the Jets. I have them letting him go to 451 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 3: John Gruden. 452 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: That's an amazing statement. 453 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: Yep. 454 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 5: I want you to really think about that. The Manning 455 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 5: family gets together Archie mm hmmm, Bayden Eli, I'm not 456 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 5: certain Coops invited to this meeting, even though he's Archie's dad. 457 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: He's a Aaron Glenn's office in storage room. B. You're there, 458 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: but you're not. 459 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 5: So it's just Archie, Payton and Eli and they are 460 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 5: saying to themselves, the Jets have the number one overall 461 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 5: pick and Gruden's the head coach. 462 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: We're good with Gruden, We're not good with the Jets. 463 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is quite the statement. Are you 464 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: aware of what John Gruden did? 465 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 3: Yes? 466 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 5: And I also know that football, but I understand what 467 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 5: you're saying. Yes, I well said, well, but something's got 468 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 5: to give there, because if Gruden is the Jets head 469 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 5: coach and they're okay with him going to Gruden, but 470 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 5: that the New York Jets, how does that work out? 471 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: I think you turn it. 472 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 3: I think you can't wait to You don't want to 473 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: be the family that keeps just trying to say where 474 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: somebody should go. They did it once with Eli. They 475 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 3: saved him from San Diego and they sent him to 476 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: New York. He won two Super Bowls. You don't want 477 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: to be the ones there. Every time it comes around, 478 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: it's like, well, is he gonna let him go there? 479 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: Right? You don't want to be that guy. 480 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: You don't want to be that guy. I mean, listen, 481 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: Cooper kind of forged his own path. Cooper didn't go 482 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: to Ole, Miss Cooper didn't go to Tennessee to follow 483 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 3: uncle uncle Peyton. He was like, you know what, I'm 484 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: going to go to Texas. We got nothing to do 485 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: with Texas. I'm gonna do my own thing, right. 486 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: No, I understand that. 487 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 5: I just like the idea of Cooper's dad not being 488 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 5: in this meeting because he's not controlling this kid's future. 489 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, so he says, wait, wait a second, Okay, 490 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: hold on this. 491 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: Suff you follow, You're you're starting to go to the path. 492 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: It's a terrible path. Yes, it's all this. 493 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 5: Well, first off, John Gruden's become our head coach, which 494 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 5: is awful, okay. 495 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: And then we've had. 496 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 5: Another rawful season because Francesa was right. And now we 497 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 5: have the number one overall pick of the draft. But 498 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 5: the Mannings don't want their their their nephew to go 499 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: to the New York Jets, even if John Gruden is coaching, 500 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 5: because John Gruden with the Jets is not like John 501 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 5: Gruden anywhere else. You get what I'm saying, Yes, but 502 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 5: your choices are very limited, right, But like John Gruden 503 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 5: with what's the next worst, the Dolphins, they'd be fine. 504 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. It's the Jet part. The 505 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 5: Jets can't have the number. I'm telling you right now. 506 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 5: If the Jets have the number one pick in the 507 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 5: draft next year, Arch Manning, the Manning family, I don't 508 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 5: care who's coaching. 509 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's Arch, I don't care if 510 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: it's Archie. I don't care if it's. 511 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 5: Cooper Peyton or Eli, the Mannings are not allowing their kid. 512 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 5: In fact, those guys would take the head coaching job 513 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 5: to prevent Arch from going to the Jets. They would 514 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 5: with a number one pick coach Manning is taking, not 515 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 5: Arch Manning. 516 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: I have long thought that the Jets hired Adam Gase 517 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 3: to try and convince Peyton Manning to be their GM. 518 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 3: And I can see Peyton Manning being like, you know what, 519 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go be the Jets GM, and Woody Johnson 520 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 3: gets really excited and goes, Okay, You're our GM. He 521 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: passes on Arch Manning and then retires. 522 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: Yes, that's it. 523 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: I just want to keep away from the Jets. 524 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: Want to make sure. 525 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: That would be a stealth mission right there. 526 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 5: So you have I have, you have Peyton being the 527 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 5: GM of the Jets, and then he comes up with 528 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 5: a bunch of excuse you know what. 529 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: We thought Orchard was going to be better. We thought 530 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: he developed more. 531 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 5: We thought Sark would would help him out a bit 532 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 5: at Texas. 533 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: We told him this day four years he didn't. He 534 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: got worse. We're not taking it, yep. I like it. 535 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, they resign on a napkin stealing Bill's move. 536 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 5: I like it is everyone over the Belichick shit yet 537 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 5: or are we still yelling about it? 538 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 1: What's happening? 539 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: I don't care anymore. 540 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: I don't feel any sympathy for Bill Belichick. 541 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 4: It was an ass to the media all this time, 542 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 4: and then he wants to turn around and be like, Oh, 543 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 4: they should have voted me in. 544 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: You weren't ask to everybody. 545 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that doesn't go into the you can't factor 546 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 5: that into your decision making. 547 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: It's a vote you have to he's a first ballot 548 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. 549 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 3: Listen, two things can be right at the same time, 550 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: and that the the NFL voters were absolutely wrong and 551 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 3: not bringing him in. And I don't feel bad for 552 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 3: him for not getting it. Those two things can be right. 553 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: Yes, you cannot feel bad for him for not. 554 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 5: Getting Yes, those two things can coexist at the exact 555 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 5: same time. 556 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: Could vote. I would put him in. 557 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 5: You would do the right thing if you had that vote, 558 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 5: because you would take that vote seriously. And I think 559 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 5: that's what people are upset about it. I just can't 560 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 5: believe that it is so rare in sports. I've been 561 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 5: doing this for twenty years, where everyone has the same 562 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 5: opinion and everyone agrees that Bill Belichick got jobbed by 563 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame and by Bill Pollyon in particular. 564 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 4: So I don't know if you guys saw this yesterday 565 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 4: on Twitter, Jimmy Johnson came to Bill Belichick's defense. Yeah, 566 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: and he was basically coming to the defense of people 567 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: using the spygates, the the flake gates as the reason 568 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 4: why they didn't get in, and in doing so, Jimmy 569 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 4: Johnson may be revealed a little too much because he said, 570 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 4: if they're using the excuse of spygate, that's ridiculous. 571 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: Many teams, including ourselves, tried it. 572 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 3: Yep. 573 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 5: That's how crazy yesterday was, where you had coaches rushing 574 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 5: to Bill Belichick's defense and admitting that they too have 575 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 5: tried to cheat. 576 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 3: Just couldn't do it. 577 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: What a weird day, man. 578 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 5: And Jimmy Johnson, who I've told you guys, is the 579 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 5: most terrifying guest to book in all of sports media. 580 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 5: I have his number. You call his house if you 581 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 5: get Jimmy. You know, if you're lucky, you'll get Jimmy's wife. 582 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 5: She's lovely. Okay, if you're lucky, but if God forbid, 583 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 5: Jimmy picks up that phone. You have three seconds to 584 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 5: make a pitch, and three seconds is a lot. 585 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: That's a long time for you. He's a very intimidating guy. 586 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 5: At what you had yesterday, because everyone was so outraged 587 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 5: about Belichick and everyone was screaming and yelling about Belichick 588 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 5: not being a first ballot Hall of Famer Bill Yellichick. 589 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: At what you had. 590 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 5: Wasjimmy Johnson not having people call him, but Jimmy Johnson 591 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 5: picking up the phone and calling producers and saying, Hey, 592 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 5: I want to come on your show and tell you 593 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 5: how I cheat it too. 594 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 3: He can call you no. 595 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: The tail Vision have called. I mean, it wasn't saying 596 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: no yesterday