WEBVTT - Identity Theft of the Unhoused with Lennon Parham 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:18.400 Scam, Come rub froll scam, come rub and frollam. Goddess? 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.759 What was popa congregation? It's your girls. 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.440 Lacy Mostly aka Scam got us back with another episode 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:29.040 of the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud and those 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.080 who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:32.479 You know what. 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:34.159 We might laugh at them, but we'll never laugh at 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.120 the victims. So this is not your fault. Need congregation 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:38.800 needs otter? What? 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:39.120 Yes? 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.800 Go ahead, stand up, stand up out of your pew, 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.440 get up out of your seat while you're driving, y'all 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.040 as long as you had a red light. Yes, and 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:49.440 please give it up for a graduate of the Appright 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.440 Citizens Brigade. But you know what, from so much more 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.760 than that, Okay, I'm talking shows like Deep Barks and 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.880 Recreation Comedy, Bang Bang, Arrested, Development, Lady Dynamite, and Matt 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.040 Men with a frequent collaborator, Jessica Saint Clair. She created 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.160 and co starred in NBC's Best Friends Forever and You 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.040 USA Network's Playing House. I could literally read Lennon's bio 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.640 wherever Okay, including she directed episodes of Going Touch that 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.839 I was in Like Lynnen is that girl? 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:26.000 Period? All Right? She's also stick Claire Spout Up their 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.360 comedy Bank Bank characters. 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.639 Wompler and Listener for a new Earwood podcast called Womp 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:31.960 It Up. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:33.880 So you can also listen to wamp it Up. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:36.000 Yes, I know, that's why it was Saint Clair as 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.000 a host and Marissa Wampler and par Am co hosting. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.399 Yes, there's so many places to listen to Lennon. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.800 There's so many places to watch on TV, whether she's 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.160 in front of the screen or she's behind the camera. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.200 And I'm so glad to app her here today. Y'all 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.520 please get up for Lennon. Lenna is good to see you. 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:58.480 Bless it a sureau She Jesus is just Welcome to church. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.480 Welcome to church. Yes, we love a good hymnal of 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:03.919 the start. So you joined the choir? 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:08.280 Okay, yes, yes, absolutely I am. I'll do any solo 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:13.200 that you want me to do, happily, happily soprano alto 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:14.200 whatever you need. 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:14.960 I got. I love that. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.320 That's where we do our money movement ministry. You know, 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.400 you got to really get people in the mood to give. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.840 That's right, that's right. Yes, not enough that your dad 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:27.079 is like asking if passing passing the trade. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.920 Absolutely off. Don't worry where is going Okay, just going it. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:33.880 Just know it's flowing. 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.880 Okay, We're getting to somebody, somebody in need of our 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:38.200 money is getting you. 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.720 Owe it to them for all they've done for you. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:41.560 Exactly. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.400 So I usually ask on this podcast, but I have 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.240 been switching it up so when I don't ask you 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:50.240 if you have any relationship with scams, and then I'm 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:54.079 gonna share a little listener letter that we've gotten. As always, 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.000 you can send in your letters. Each snitch here goes 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.520 snitch on your friend's family and your enemies. And scam 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.919 got his post gmail dot com. We may just read 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:03.080 them a lot on the show. I know it's been 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:04.720 a minute. As I told you, I was bringing it back. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:06.880 But first, Lennon and I want to know about you. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.480 Did you Is there that Rennie scams pop? And when 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.440 we were younger or even as an adult now, it 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:13.559 could be anything. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.519 Well, I grow up, yeah, I mean growing up in 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.080 the South, I think there was always an adult trying 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:21.960 to pull one over on a child. Oh no, you 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.079 know what I mean, just like there was like an 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:28.160 adult authority thing. And I very my mom taught me 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.960 to like that I was equal to those adults. So 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:36.080 that did not go well really early on. But the thing, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:41.400 the one that pops out in my mind is okay. 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.520 And I don't know if this is like a thing 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.520 that happens out in the world or if it just 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.600 was a one time thing. But when my husband and 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:53.240 I first moved to La we had a we rented 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.480 a place like it was a it was like a 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.920 duplex sort of in the well. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:59.520 They took one of those big houses and kind of 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:00.000 cut it up. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.680 Yeah, so we were on the bottom. No, we were 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:08.320 on the top and our landlady landlord was on the bottom. 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.680 But it was it was like in this remote part 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.560 of Echo Park where it's a walking trail. So you 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.200 park on the street and then you go upstairs and 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.719 then you have to walk down a brick path past 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:20.720 three other. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.040 Like dateline like sold houses. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.760 I don't know what that means, but yes. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.240 Like I mean like like the type of house you 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:28.760 would see on dateline. You know what I mean, Like you 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.719 went on it's featured on dateline, because what do you 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.719 mean house in a wooden path area and leave the 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.600 lip path area to gets you. 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.040 Passed by like a little cabin, and there were there 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.599 were trails that led to the backyards of other houses, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:48.120 but our house was the last house, and uh. 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.800 Okay, it also sounds like a horror movie title, the 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:52.480 last house. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.160 And there was like a stone archway that had been 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.800 built that said like eighteen seventy nine or something on 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:03.479 the front of it. And our land lady had locked 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.320 herself out and she called a locksmith and they came 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:10.320 and let her in. And about two days later I 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:15.159 came home and the front door was unlocked and we 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:23.000 had been broken into. And I looked around. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:25.720 Like a Brinks type things, glasses breaking or like. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:31.599 Well that's the thing. Yes, there was broken glass, but 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.320 I think that they were trying to stage it to 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.200 look like it was a robbery when really it was 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:43.159 the locksmith. Wow, because when I did my like and 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.120 I was watching The Closer a lot, like here's Edgewick's 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:46.680 The Closer. 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:48.920 Okay, okay, So you were locked at. 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:53.440 This and so when I walked in, I knew something 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.600 was off. And then I walked into I think, our 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:01.799 our guest room, where are like Josh and iMac should 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.760 have been, and it was gone. And then I went 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.760 in to see they had taken my grandmother's jewelry, which 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:13.960 was like random. And then I tried to figure out 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:15.640 how did they get in because they went out the 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:20.279 front door, I think, and there was a footprint on 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.000 top of the washing machine, like on a towel that 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:28.880 was on top. But the footprint, had they broken in 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:33.680 from the outside, would be facing in away from the window. 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.880 C S, I ha got shut on you can, you said, 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:37.320 scoot over ice to you. Let me get my white 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.080 gloves out. Let's start looking around. 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.800 Okay, it was facing out, and the broken glass that 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.160 would have been on the inside if they had broken 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:49.240 that window to get in, was outside of the window 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:54.160 on the on the dirt path. So I know somebody 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.760 let themselves in with the lock in that room and 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.600 then staged it to look like they broke in from 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:04.440 the outside, but not thinking like, oh right, all of 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:08.840 that glass and those dirt prints should be the other direction. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.280 Right if you're breaking in? Oh yeah, I'm confused. 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.040 This is like, okay, if you're a locksmith and you 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:15.840 don't wanted to get pointed back to you, why not 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.360 just break in like a normal robber? Like why did 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:22.280 you add the locksmith element to it all? It was unnecessary, dude, 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.040 Like that's hat on the hat. They didn't they won't 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.520 know it was me if I used my blacksmith tool. Kid, 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.640 But then I mean it looked like a robbery. Just 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:32.480 make it look like a robbery. 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.200 Well, they didn't break into our landlord's apartment. They only 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.960 broke into ours, so like they had they had let 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.760 her back into that apartment, I think, and they were like, oh, 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.960 we won't break into that one because they'll know it's us, 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.640 but we'll break into the one above it. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.000 Yeah, the logic here wasn't great for my locksmith guys, 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.000 Like I kind of wish they would have just stuck 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.880 the unlocking doors for people legally, because the second they 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.200 tried to like really great themselves. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.840 Yes I can stage it. Yeah yeah, they they never 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:07.440 got caught though, I don't know. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:11.080 I usually tell people with impostor syndrome to just keep trying, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.960 but sometimes you shoot above your your your belt level, 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.240 and this feels like they weren't skilled enough to go 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.760 to the next level of breaking into people's homes. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.880 Like yeah, well this. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.800 Is a short little scam letter, so we'll get to 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.400 it before we get to our historic HOODWIEK today so 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:29.200 I need a fake name for this person. Lennon, we 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:31.239 don't care about gender on this show, and as always, 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:34.080 snitched on your friend's family, yourself, your enemies, and scam 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.760 guyspot at gmail dot com. 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.840 Okay, the name is uh Talise. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:45.080 Ooh Toalise, where did that come from? That loaded? You 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:46.200 know what's Leise worm? 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:53.080 I don't, so Talise says, Hey, I just found your 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.559 podcast and I'm obsessed with Thank you. Toalise, I'm read 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.120 this letter is from a little while ago. I'm not 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:58.440 gonna say how long because you're not gonna know how 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.199 triple and I am. But Touise, I hope that you 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:12.040 re really hung on. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.080 Social media after this episode comes out. 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.480 Get on Blue Sky or wherever we're supposed to be 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.520 these days, Like my god. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.120 To Lise, tell me still, let me please, you're still there. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.480 I need to know. Okay, we're gonna be looking for 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:20.000 you to lose. 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:25.040 So Tllise says that I've been thinking about if I 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.160 had a story, and I couldn't think of anything. So 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.280 I remember the story of how my dad was involved 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.200 in a scam when I was a kid, but in 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:35.040 a pretty unusual way. So there was a local business 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.480 in my area when I was growing up that happened 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.960 to have a phone number that was one digit from 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:44.080 my dad's cell phone number. At some point, some scammers 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:48.920 created another business and quotes that basically replicated the legit one, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.800 but just never followed through on their products. The fake 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:55.760 business had a website with fake addresses and the fake number, 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.400 which which was just like one digit off of the 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.480 other business. This information or like one letter off of 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.400 the street name, like all of this was just like 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:10.320 almost identical. And so for years, to lisays, my dad 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.560 would get calls from angry customers about how he stole 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.120 their money and didn't deliver. 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.199 He was really confused about it for a while because 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.040 he had no other ties to the business and people 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.679 weren't exploiting what was going on because they thought he 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:24.640 was playing dumb. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.600 So, basically, to Lisa's father allowed a scam to go 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:33.960 on forever. What do you mean for years you never 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.400 thought to go to the business father and tell them, hey, did. 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.080 He not know that his number was one off? I 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:44.480 think because once you get the call multiple times, you 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.760 gotta be right. And this is before call blocking and 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:51.720 all that stuff. You would just get a yeah, right, Yeah. 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.560 I'll be like, I'm not a phone number nowhere. You know, 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:55.920 that's not my thing. 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.559 So how would he have found out about this other business? 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.200 I feel like there are a certain point you have to 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.680 be like, what services am I offering? What's the name 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:07.440 of my business? But to be this unbothered I kind 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.599 of love your dad to lose that much that he 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.120 just kept getting angry phone calls and was like I 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:14.760 don't get it, and then just going about his day 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:16.439 and answering. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.800 It and like kind of taking it and being like 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.280 I hear you, I hear you. I have no idea 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.160 what you're talking about. A lot of people keep calling me. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.000 It's not me. I don't know what's going on. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.199 I hope it made him feel like very important in love, 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.160 Like my phone's always bringing up the hooks, people always 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:32.720 calling me. 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.920 Who I gotta let them. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.120 Know when they call. They always have so much passion. Look, 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:40.280 there's never a boring. 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:44.200 Collar services like what worth services that he that these 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.280 other people have supposedly offered, and who was paid from 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:48.880 a random place for that? 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.040 And there was a brick and mortar store in their neighborhood. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.600 So I'm guessing that's why when people called and didn't 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.280 get the services, they were also confused because they were like, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.400 we know you have a physical business here, I don't 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.280 know what the services are. That was never said. So 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:04.920 list does not tell us what the leads. 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:05.920 We need more info. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.360 You need to tell us what the b business was, 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.240 the legit one and the fake one, because what are 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.560 these services with the service is supposed to come to me? 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.680 It says that he was stealing their money, or he 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:24.000 didn't deliver. Was he physically delivering or delivering physically. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.319 But like I said, like a pizza place and they 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.800 ordered and they what they give their credit card over 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.280 and some some rando is running it, like are they 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:33.400 sending a check. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:35.720 Out there? 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.480 These are questions that need answers because as simple as 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.679 the story as this was, I'm trying to make out 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.520 if your dad's not really a part of the scammer 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.640 of viz because right now, to Lise, I'm not quite sure. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.240 We don't know what the products or the services were. 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.040 We don't know what if he was a part of 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.839 the scam of it all, and those calls just came 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:02.000 because what those calls us, I don't know, Tom h 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.040 We need more info, Yeah, Lennon, I'm on your side. 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.520 I feel like there's too much left out here for 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.120 me to know who's the scammer and who was just 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:19.199 accidentally involved in a scam. Scam God, since we don't 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.160 know who's who, that brings us into my favorite segment 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.240 of this show, and what a lovely said segue, historic hoodwinks. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:27.840 This is where I were with Kaye Lennon with the 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.880 famous Concave group of criminals will get opinion all throughout. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.120 Maybe we like them, maybe we hate them, maybe we 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.240 can't figure out who they are. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:37.800 So for thirty. 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:43.560 Years, Matthew David Kieran's assumed the identity of another man 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:48.760 so convincingly that his victim was forcibly medicated and jailed 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.599 for identity theft himself. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:56.160 So this is Matthew. He's our scammer. He has a 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.199 face that a mother. 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:05.120 Still honor at THEOL. Have questions about his neck, to 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:06.160 be honest. 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:11.440 Yeah, yeah, questions like where did it go? Is it? 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:12.400 Is it coming back? 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.880 It's straight down from this from the top of it. 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:20.880 Ray working his neck out. He does look like parts 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.400 of him worked out. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.920 Maybe it is kind of giving Lego Bill though he 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:27.880 was like he had shoulders and they were like in 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:28.640 the head. 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.200 And then pop it off, pop it off. 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.080 Or maybe or maybe you're right, and maybe he was 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.160 doing those neck ups, you know when they put the 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.680 big heavyweights on the back of the neck and they 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.360 do the neck ups. 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.760 So Matthew here, he's our scammers. 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:48.520 And his victim was William Woods, who is now fifty five. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.000 He's been down on his luck for a long time. 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:57.080 This is William. He looks like what life let's put 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:57.560 him through? 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.960 He looks like like he could have been on cast Away, 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.040 the movie. 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.520 He does Trapped on an Island. Is this a real 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:06.720 picture of this real man? 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:07.360 Yeah? 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.280 And I don't want to make fun of like because 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:10.960 he's the victim. So I'm not trying to make fun 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.480 of him in a way that I'm like coming for 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:13.040 his looks. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:13.720 I'm coming for. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:17.560 Him the way his experience looks like like this man 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:18.680 looks like he's been. 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:19.920 Kenny Rogers down here. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.600 Yeah, Like he looked like he definitely sent like a 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.360 message at a bottle before, like but really waited on 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:30.840 his return, like maybe he's even received. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:36.000 Some So what happened was the gentleman the aforementioned neck 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:41.880 stole his identity and then did so many nasty things. 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:46.960 Yet they were fun together. Oh, they were certain point together. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.360 He was working like odd jobs in New Mexico in 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:54.160 the eighties, then as a day laborer in El Paso, Texas, 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.120 and then at a laundry matt in Las Vegas. Eventually 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:01.000 he moved to southern California. This is William would the victim. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:04.200 William says that he stayed in hotels and motels and 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.520 lived on the streets and sold gemstones, gold scraps, and 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.320 other items he found on the streets of downtown, LA's 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:14.680 Jewelry district. In twenty fifteen, a YouTuber known as Fauci 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:18.240 Tube found William living on the street and created a 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.760 series of videos with more than one million views each 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:25.000 documenting Bossy Tube giving William food and paying for him 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:25.920 to stay in a hotel. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:27.200 So this is. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:33.280 Yusuf and he has a YouTube channel where he goes 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:38.520 outside to visit an housed people and make videos of them, 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:47.040 which is the thing that people do now for money. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.320 How do you feel about that? Because on one handle 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.320 them like they are helping, But on the other hand, 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.240 I'm like, do we have to be on YouTube? 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.320 But also the money you're making from YouTube. Is that 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:56.800 helping you help more people? 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:57.360 I don't know. 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.600 It's questionable for sure. I mean, I guess it depends 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:06.600 on the type. I mean, I feel like the the 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.680 lasting help is better, not the one time handout right, 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.879 the organizations that are there doing the work and knowing 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.480 that know the population and are able to actually help 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:22.280 on a consistent basis and help to support, you know, 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.720 folks in the way that they want to be helped. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:26.800 I love that, And I love what you said at 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.040 the end about in the way that they want to 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:29.640 be helped and not just being like. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:31.040 This is what we think you deserve. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.520 And also we got a camera in your face you 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.199 do and I'm like, that is gross to me. But 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.920 seeing people help and knowing where to donate things like that, 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.719 if you can't physically be out there, You're right then 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.360 there's like two sides of this. I absolutely agree. 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.600 So he's getting him housed for the night, but he's 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:47.440 gonna pay for. 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:52.159 It, mm hmm. Okay, And side notes this mister Fossey gentleman. 0:17:52.200 --> 0:18:01.840 He also was in the movie Boo madea Halloween, So. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.919 So I mean he's multifastted. We got a lot of 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.280 men with many different versions of personalities. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.160 Like that's how they got along. It's like I don't have. 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.080 The different things too. I make these YouTube videos on 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.200 the street, I work with media. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.040 I see myself and you. We have all different parts. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:19.920 Yes, that's serial entrepreneurs. 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.240 So William would use the money that Fauci gave him 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.040 to pay for credit monitoring service and learned that someone 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.200 was racking up debt and opening accounts under his name. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.360 So he was telling people like, something's up. 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.719 I know these accounts, these cars, like I didn't have 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.520 access to my money and now this fousi man slash 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:40.520 media star. 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:41.720 Has helped me. 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.720 So an assistant manager at the bank, and this is 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.920 in August of twenty nineteen. William went to this bank 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:52.160 in la and at this branch told the assistant manager 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.840 that he discovered someone was using his credit card and 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.920 accumulated a large amount of debt. He wanted the account 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.479 numbers with his name on them so he could closed 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:01.200 them out. 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.359 Normal thing for someone to want to do. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.560 He gave the assistant manager his Social Security card and 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.840 his California ID. There were bank accounts in his name 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.520 with lots of money in them. But William couldn't answer 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.200 the security questions. The assistant manager called the phone number 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.320 on the bank accounts and the person on the line 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:21.560 did answer the questions correctly. The bank employee called the 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:26.960 police on the real guide, so they laped. Officers arrived. 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:31.200 They didn't believe someone had used William's social Security number. 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:33.840 They didn't believe it was his card. 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:37.719 Okay, so the bank the accounts are full of money, 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:39.199 so they weren't full of debts. 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:44.560 So he was taking out loans and taking. 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:48.440 Out debt, this fake William. Oh, that's how he had 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.639 money coming in because he was using it for crime. 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:52.560 He was doing all types of things. He's doing this 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.640 all under this poor William's name, right, And. 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.040 The police did not believe him when he went to 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.879 say because he couldn't answer for the security question. But 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:03.960 how would he answer it if he had not opened 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.080 the account in the beginning. 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:08.520 I also don't think that was the only reason the 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.600 security guards didn't help him. I feel like he didn't 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.119