1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: See the best idea. Well, the first thing is to say, 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: where did the first half go? 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: Wow? 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: It seems, you know, frankly, the news slows so exhausting. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: Excuse me. It feels like a year in the first 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: half of two thousand and twenty four. And of course 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: we dive into the second half, I should say, looking 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: at three massive tumultuous elections in France, we'll talk about 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: that in a moment, the United Kingdom July fourth, and 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 2: then of course all that's gone on in the United 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: States in the last seventy two hours. Thanks to Jordan 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: Fabian at the White House for giving us a morning 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: brief of just the absolute mystery of what to do. 15 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm sort of centered on reading about the donors to 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party, the donors to President Biden. But I'm 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: just saying that as an amateur, I don't have any 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: strong pearls of wisdom. Thanks for the really intelligent comments 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: out on YouTube today out in the live chat the 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: minimum Snark. Appreciate that we're out on YouTube. Search and 21 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: subscribe to Bloomberg Podcast. It's our new way to do it. 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: I'll get the six month statistics here in a bit, 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: and we're just humbled by the response. Today we're gonna 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: go to France and then bring it on back to 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: the stock market. Alan Katz is one of the true 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: reporters of Bloomberg, very important in finance and particularly in 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: finance reform, the criminal intent reporting of finance. And I 28 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: guess that's how you wrangle yourself into the most coveted 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: job in all of Bloomberg News, which is Paris Bureau chief. 30 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: This is I mean, Eric, you just can't believe it. 31 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: It's his gorgeous set of doors two blocks down from 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: Root on Ruskreb, from the opera house, beautiful offices you 33 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: go out for, you know, I mean, the lunch is 34 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: there short, lunch is two hours. I mean, it's a 35 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: tough life. But within that Alan Katz, like everyone else 36 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: in France right now, working eighteen hour days on this election. 37 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: Alan Katz, now are Paris Bureau Chief on the impact 38 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: of the French people. 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: If you're the financial markets, your best case scenario is 40 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: nothing happens over the next three years. This is very 41 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: hard for French people to accept the idea that you 42 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: might spend a long time not legislating, not really doing anything. 43 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: It's very different. You know, if you're American, that sort 44 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: of you're like, well, actually, this way it's been for 45 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: much of the time, for the last twenty or thirty years, 46 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: but here it's not. France is sort of a semi 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: presidential semi parliamentary system. Usually the government that's the executive branch, 48 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: has a majority in Parliament and can basically pass whatever 49 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: they want, and so you pass all sorts of laws 50 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: if you were in a situation where you had a 51 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: hung parlia, which has been more or less the case 52 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 3: since Macon was re elected in twenty twenty two. He's 53 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: had the largest single party, but he hasn't had no 54 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: right majority, and that's really restricted the number of laws 55 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 3: and the things he can do and how it can 56 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: pass them. And if you had that case, like not much, 57 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: you wouldn't really be able to do much. But that 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: is not necessarily a bad thing, because France is actually 59 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: pretty well run country. It's pretty organized. It would actually 60 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: be rightly fine. The other thing that could happen is 61 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: that the National Rally gets the majority and they could 62 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: either do one of two things, either not that much 63 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: or they might actually say, well, actually, now that we're 64 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: in power, let's really try to do stuff. 65 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: Confused so much, that's what I take out of it. 66 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: I truly I saw a fantastic graphic today from the 67 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Financial Times of the first, second and third tier results 68 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: of the election of yesterday, and I honestly didn't understand. 69 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I've been doing this for a few years 70 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: and I did understand the chart. I just I literally 71 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: did not understand what Alan Katz was talking about. I'm trying. 72 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: Thank you to Lionel Laurant and all of our Paris 73 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: News bureau, Carolyn Conan and others were just working NonStop 74 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: and this incredible story on the stock market. We got 75 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: to do a lot of this in July. Up. You know, 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: it's a round number, up fifteen percent, all because of 77 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: four stacks, you know, the drill. Cam Dawson gave us 78 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: the first brief of the year, Cameron Dawson at Knew 79 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: as Wealth. Here's Cameron Dawson on use of cash. 80 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 4: The calculus for using debt in order to do share 81 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 4: repurchases is less attractive at today's rates, But to your point, 82 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 4: credit spreads are also extraordinarily tight, so you could take 83 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: advantage of say, yes, my base yield is higher, but 84 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: nobody really is demanding extra compensation for credit risk. The 85 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: triple be to double be spread is actually tighter today 86 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 4: than it was in twenty twenty one, showing just how 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: price per perfection the credit market is. 88 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: Cam Dawson and the equity markets framing out, you know what, 89 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: the trends in place, solid earning, solid revenue, solid, this, this, this, 90 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: and she's still on board with this. Equity market had 91 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: a huge response on YouTube to the Intelligence Today of 92 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: our guests Audrey Child, Friedman and Foreign Exchange with Bloomberg 93 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: Intelligence and London and back to cam Dawson, some very 94 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: kind words about how cam Dawson filters in the mathiness 95 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: of equity analysis as well. And I said to her, 96 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: I said, okay, you're down in Florida, you're a kid. 97 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: How did you get into the acuity of equity market analysis? 98 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: Cam Dawson on the books she read. 99 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: More Money than God is a fantastic books of Ash 100 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: Malaby about some of the great hedge fund investors. I 101 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 4: think that books like Austerity, which is a fantastic book 102 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: about politics and economics coming out of the year. 103 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: For me, it was against the God. It's Peter Bernstein, 104 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: you know, on risk and uncertainty. 105 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: Wealth born wisdom Martin Biggs. Yeah, yeah, absolutely fascinating, talking 106 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: about seeing through volatility. Essential reads. 107 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: Some books there to get you going. My read of 108 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: the summer at the top of the list is a 109 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: book from two years ago, which is more important now 110 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: to give you an idea. Nvidia doesn't show up until 111 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: like page two hundred and fifty. Chip War. It's just 112 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: a great, great book. It's a brilliant academic out of Tufts, 113 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: Chris Miller. And the answer is I can't say enough. 114 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: You got a kid at home board and they're all 115 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: tiktocked up. Throw Chip War at them and say this 116 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: is how and why you can do TikTok. It is 117 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: a spectacular effort. I got a bunch of other books 118 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: as well, but we'll leave it at that. We're too 119 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: long today. It's six minutes as smart and the clock 120 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: that we've got going, and I'm way over single best idea. 121 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, seven