1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloemberg 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: Day by cur podcast. Good morning, It's Monday, the fourteenth 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: of July. I'm Caroline Hepkeit in London. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. Coming up today, the EU 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: lines up allies and countermeasures as Trump threatens a thirty 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: percent tariff from the first of August if no agreement 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: can be reached. 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Help wanted, but not by humans. UK hiring tumbles as 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: AI disrupts jobs and payroll costs search in another worrying 10 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: sign for Starmer and Reeves. 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Plus why Europe's defense ramp up is creating an opportunity 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: for Sweden's Grippen fighter jet to take off. 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: The European Union is looking to step up engagement with 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: other countries hit by Trump's tariffs following a slew of 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: new threats. Sources tell us that the EU has reached 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: out to nations including Canada and Japan and raise the 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: prospect of a coordinated response to US levies. The move 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: comes after President Trump unleashed his latest tariff ultimatum over 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: the weekend. The US President declared that the EU and 21 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: Mexico would face a thirty percent tariff if agreements can't 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: be reached by the first of August. European Commissioned President 23 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: or Slavonderlon says she's hopeful of a deal. 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 3: We prefer a negotiated solution. 25 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: This remains the case and we will use the time 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: that we have not the. 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 4: First of August. 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: Our Savanderlyn says the EU Opini Union will extend the 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: suspension of trade countermeasures against the US until the start 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: of next month in a bid to secure a deal. 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: At the same time, Germany's Chancellor Friedrich Martz said thirty 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: percent tariffs would hit exporters in Europe's largest economies to 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: the core if a negotiated solution in the trade conflict 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: can't be found. 35 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: China's export growth has accelerated for the first time since March. 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: Exports rose on year by are higher than expected five 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: point eight percent in June to three hundred and twenty 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: five billion dollars. Bluebag's mid min Low says the pickup 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: was driven by a reduction in the US tariffs and 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: robust demand from key overseas markets. 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 5: The exports are really basted by the trade trews the 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 5: front loading of shipment's economists have been telling us that 43 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 5: we really have to prepare for a potential, you know, 44 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 5: fall off in demand for exports in the second half 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 5: of the year. And of course we are still waiting 46 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 5: for the mid August deadline when the temporary truths will expire, 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 5: and some economists believe it's still a possibility that maybe 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 5: the tariff levels could still increase in the later half 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 5: of this year, So there's still a lot of uncertainty there. 50 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: Mid min Low speaking there, the US tariffs on Chinese 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: goods have been cut back to around fifty five percent, 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: down from as high as one hundred and forty five 53 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: percent in early April. However, Beijing faces mounting risks from 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: Washington's evolving trade strategy. Treasury Sexuri Scott best Center is 55 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: expected to meet his Chinese counterpart in the coming weeks. 56 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: Bloomberg understands that Jane Street has deposited over forty eight 57 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: billion rupees the equivalent of five hundred and sixty four 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: million dollars in an escrow account to comply with an 59 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: order from India's market regulator. It comes after these Securities 60 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: and Exchange Board of India temporarily banned the trading giant 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: from accessing the local market over allegations of index manipulation. 62 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: The deposit enables Jane Street to resume trading in India, 63 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: but sources say the firm does not intend to return 64 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: to trading in local equity options. While Jane Street has 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: not commented on the latest development, it has previously stated 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: that it strongly rejects the premise and substance of the 67 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: regulator's order, calling it fundamentally mistaken about its trades now here. 68 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: In the UK, hiring by businesses is down by the 69 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: most in nearly two years, according to data from the 70 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: consultancy KPMG and the Recruitment and Employment Confederation. The numbers 71 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: come as employers show signs of dialing back hiring for 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: jobs likely to be affected by artificial intelligence. Bloomberg tu 73 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: Adebayo has more. 74 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 6: Online job postings in the UK have dropped thirty one 75 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 6: percent in the three months to May compared to twenty 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 6: twenty two. According to McKinsey analysis, The decline is being 77 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 6: felt most in sectors with the potential to be significantly 78 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 6: altered by AI, including areas such as tech and finance. 79 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 6: Data shows job for hostings for these sorts of roles 80 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 6: dropped almost twice as much as others. The trend presents 81 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 6: another drag on a job market already contending with tax 82 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 6: increases and stalling economic growth. In London, Tia Adebayo Bloomberg 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 6: Radio Britain. 84 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: Has announced today for the state visit from US President 85 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. The country will host the American leader from 86 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 2: the seventeenth of September after Prime Minister Keir Starmer invited 87 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: Trump for a rare second visit. Bloombergs James Wilcock has. 88 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 7: More flashy can get you a long way. In Britain's case, 89 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 7: flattery seems to have helped Keir Starmer secure a twenty 90 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 7: percentage point lower tariff rate than that of the EU, 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 7: which would be a major coup if it holds and 92 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 7: global leaders admit to taking notes from this moment, Can. 93 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 8: I present a letter from m King to take it 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 8: away in. 95 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 9: Rash oh as well, well, that is really nice. 96 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 8: A very special letter. I think the last state visit 97 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 8: was a tremendous success. His Matchley King wants to make 98 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 8: this even better than that. So this is this is 99 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 8: truly historic, an unprecedented second visit so can Stam perform 100 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 8: a second flourish and leave the UK's pageantry industry into 101 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 8: real gains on trade and security. 102 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 7: From the US leader in London, James Wilcock, Bloomberg Radio. 103 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: President Donald Chomp says that the US will send more 104 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: Patriot air defense batteries to Ukraine as long as Europe pays. 105 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: The move is a change of heart for the US leader, 106 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: who had argued that sending more arms would delay any 107 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: peace deal. Ukraine had been receiving US weapons, but only 108 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: with money remaining from Joe Biden's time in office. President 109 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Trump says that he won't be footing the bill for 110 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: the new deliveries. 111 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 9: I haven't agreed on the number yet, but they're gonna 112 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 9: have some because they do need protection. But the European 113 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 9: Union is paying for it. We're not paying any big port, 114 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 9: but we will send it. It'll be business for US, 115 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 9: and we will send them patriots, which they desperately need. 116 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: The President added that he is very disappointed with Russian 117 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: President Vladimir Putin. NATO Chief Mark Russa is scheduled to 118 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: meet with Trump later today, as Axios reports that Trump 119 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: will announce a new plan for Ukraine that also includes 120 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: offensive weapons. 121 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: And the Sports and Asianic Center is captured as first 122 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: Wimbledon title after defeating the defending champion, Carlos Alcaraz in 123 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: four sets. Speaking after the match, the Italian world number 124 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: one acknowledge the challenges he's faced this year. 125 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 10: I'm very emotional now if I don't cry, but it 126 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 10: feels feels emotional because only me and the people who 127 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 10: are close to me know exactly what we have been 128 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 10: through on and off the court, and it has been 129 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 10: everything except easier. 130 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: Alex Centner, who also served a three month doping ban 131 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: earlier in the year. Speaking there, that's where chelseacuins the 132 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: Football Club World Cup title, beating Paris anger Man three 133 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: nil in the final. The London side were presented with 134 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: the trophy by US President Donald Trump at the MetLife 135 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: Stadium in New Jersey. 136 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: Those are top stories for you this morning. Let's have 137 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: a look at markets where stop futures are tumbling right 138 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: now for Europe down by half of one percent for 139 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: the U of stocks, fifty futures, real concerns around President 140 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: Trump's tariff threat of thirty percent against europe s and 141 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: P five founded evening futures also annursing some declines, down 142 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: four tenths this morning, looking at the Euro marginally lower 143 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: against the dollar, down about a tenth of one percent 144 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: for the Euro one sixteen seventy five. The Mexican pay 145 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: so is also down two terms against the dollar because 146 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: it's another country in the sites of President Trump with tariff's. 147 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Asian eggities are mixed. You've got the topics up at 148 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: the costpit also seeing some gains, but we've had some declines, 149 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: for example for the Taiwanese stock market looking at treasure 150 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: yields hovering about four forty one. The only other really 151 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: big notable move again is in bitcoin one hundred and 152 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: twenty one thousand dollars, so it's breaking has broken through 153 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: another record high for bitcoin. Those are the market. 154 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: Stephen. 155 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: In a moment, we'll bring you the latest on the 156 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: US EU trade moves, plus why Sweden's fighter jet industry 157 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: could be poised for takeoff. But another story we've been 158 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: reading this morning from our opinion Columnst. Howard Troy One 159 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: who has been writing about getting healthy again. While a 160 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: little bit older at sixty six, I decided to get 161 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: healthy again. As the essay that he's written for Bloomberg's 162 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: weekend edition with some interesting I mean, we've like to 163 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: feature Horod's writing a lot, because, yes, he writes beautifully 164 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: and in a very sort of relatable way about some 165 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: of the kind of challenges he's had, like taking up 166 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: running in his sixties. Again he gave it up earlier 167 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: because of an injury as well, and he's kind of 168 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: talking about the challenges of trying to be as active 169 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: as possible, yes, while also not compromising entirely on the 170 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: things that he enjoys in life, like eating out. 171 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 172 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely, he's a Bob Vivarce. He just is such a 173 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: great writer also that he often goes back to, you know, 174 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: ancient texts, which I just love. You know, he brings 175 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: up lots of kind of Roman writers and he's got 176 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: all sorts of interesting quotes that he includes in kind 177 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: of philosophical thinking. But it was based on science because 178 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: he was looking at this recent scientific study that anybody 179 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: who might be a little bit older have probably spotted, 180 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: which is that apparently we age at certain points. It 181 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: doesn't sort of happen gradually, but around the age of 182 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: forty four and around the age of sixty, you can 183 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: kind of age quite rapidly, so he was trying to 184 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: reverse that target and just. 185 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: Like that effect, you know, and just like that, you're 186 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: feeling much older than perhaps you were last week or 187 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: the week before. There's great advice in there though from 188 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: Horod too, and essentially, I mean a lot of it 189 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: just comes down to don't give up and doing a 190 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: little is better than doing nothing at all. And you 191 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: will put a link to the piece in our show notes. 192 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: It's a great read this morning. 193 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: Now let's bring you more on our top story. So 194 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: the EU is preparing to step up contacts with the 195 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: likes of Canada and Japan after Donald Trump threatened to 196 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: impose tariffs of thirty percent on its exports. EU Trade 197 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: Minister is a meeting in Bussels today to discuss the 198 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: latest our Bussels Bureau chief Suzanne Lynch is joining us 199 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: now for more. Susan, good morning. What do we know 200 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: about the latest steps that the EU is planning. Is 201 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: this about trying to form alliances against the US? 202 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: Well, we reported late last night that the EU is 203 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: preparing to step up engagement with other countries that are 204 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: hit by the Trump tariffs. Mainly, it seemed after this 205 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: week of Donald Trump digging down on his trade rhetoric, 206 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: sending those letters to various trading partners, and then at 207 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: the weekend announcing or threatening the European Union and Mexico 208 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: with new tariffs. So we know that there is plan 209 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: out coordinate a lot better on this. But at the 210 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: same time, we've got the EU at the other hand, 211 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: signally quite strongly by Ursula vonderlyon on Sunday that they 212 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: don't want to escalate at the moment, and that they're 213 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: holding back implementing any more countermeasures until they try and 214 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: get some kind of a deal before this new August 215 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 3: first deadline. 216 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: Suzan, talk to us about the strategy that the EU 217 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: is taking here, Because the decision not to retaliate is 218 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 2: a choice, does it indicate that they are hopeful that 219 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: progress can be made between now and the first of August. 220 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting timing because today, as you mentioned, EU 221 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: trade ministers are meeting here in Brussels, but today is 222 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: also the deadline by which as suspended tariffs on stealing 223 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: aluminum expire. So the EU had a choice today as 224 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: it happens, whether to extend that suspension or to enact 225 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: that suspension again. And those tariffs again. So we've heard 226 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: very strongly from vonder lyon that at the moment today 227 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: the EU won't do that that it will allow that 228 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 3: suspension to continue. So it did have that option if 229 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: you like, and they have chosen not to do that. Now, 230 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: what it's interesting is that we you know, we're hearing that, 231 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: for example, from President Macron. If you look at the 232 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: language he used on Saturday when he responded to this 233 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: kind of shock move by Trump. He talked about the 234 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: fact that the Commission has to protect European interests. He 235 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: talked about preparing series of countermeasures, including this trade tool 236 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 3: called the anti coercion instruments that could you know, allow 237 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: the EU to hit back even stronger. He mentioned those things. Now, 238 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: the EU hasn't gone there yet, and I say it 239 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 3: is at this moment deciding not to go any further. 240 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: But it will be interesting to see, you know, if 241 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: there is some pushback now today when EU trade ministers 242 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: meeting that some countries perhaps believe, look, the EU needs 243 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 3: to be stronger on this because you know, as we've 244 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 3: discussed before, the EU does have these other measures that 245 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: can take It has other sanctions that it can implement 246 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: if it chooses to do so. 247 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's watch that closely. Suzanne, thank you so 248 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: much for being with us this morning. That is Bloomberg's 249 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: Brussels pier A chief, Suzanne Lynch. 250 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: The move to ramp up defense spending in Europe is 251 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: presenting an opportunity for the gripp and Jet, made by 252 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: Sweden's SAAB. The company hasn't secured an export order since 253 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, but that might be about to change. Our 254 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: reporter Christopher Youngstadt joins us now for more from Stockholm. Christopher, 255 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: good morning. Is this the moment then for the Grip 256 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: and fighter jet? 257 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: It should does look like it's a moment definitely. As 258 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 4: you mentioned, it's been over a decade since saw one 259 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 4: a major export order for it. It's grouping chats, but 260 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 4: in the past year both Thailand and Columbia have decided 261 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 4: that they do want to place orders and these are 262 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: now being negotiated with SAB targeting deals being finalized this 263 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: year and the next in line could be ordered from 264 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: Peru and the Philippines, with Brazil potentially also boosting its 265 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 4: existing contract for thirty six jets by twenty five percent. 266 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: And as SAB CEO Michael Johansson said in his typical 267 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: understated fashion, it's been a while since the company was 268 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: in such an intensive period on the glip in front. 269 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: Well, lot Keith Martin's F thirty five fighter jets of 270 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: course of dominated order books in Europe, but here too, 271 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: countries sort of looking for alternatives. 272 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Thirteen European countries are our current F thirty 273 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: five customers, and that's including Sweden's neighbors Norway, Denmark and Finland, 274 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 4: while SAB in its turn, has just leased griepin jet 275 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 4: to the Czech Republic and Hungary. The fact that Sweden 276 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 4: hasn't been a NATO member has historically been one of 277 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: their competitor's main arguments for not buying the Glippen, but 278 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: with Sweden now a member, that's of course gone from 279 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 4: their playbooks. What's potentially an even bigger change, however, is 280 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: the foreign policy shift of the Trumpet administration, pulling back 281 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 4: support as we all know, for Ukraine and raising doubts 282 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: about US commitment to Europe's defense, which is quite frankly 283 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: uncharted territory for European leaders. 284 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: So what's the hope then, in terms of new orders 285 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: for the GREEP and JATA and for SAB that makes 286 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: it well. 287 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: SAW executives have long emphasized that the procurement of a 288 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: fighter jet is as much a political process as it 289 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 4: is a purely technical one. Buying weapons and military gear 290 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 4: from the US has long been viewed as a fool 291 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 4: proof method to reach guaranteed friendship and support, but that 292 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: is now, of course no longer the case, with some 293 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 4: security analysts believing that trust in the US will never 294 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: go back to pre Trump levels. Consequently, European countries are 295 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: now trying to tow the line between lessening their dependence 296 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 4: on the US and maintaining a healthy relationship as allies. 297 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: Some are starting to consider jewel fleets, that is, mixing 298 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: European made fighters with their thirty fives and this to 299 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: make up for a potentially lower level of US air 300 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 4: support in the reas, and some analysts expect European countries 301 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 4: to spend a far smaller portion of its defense spending 302 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: on US equipment over time, as such supplies more of 303 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 4: a song fighter aircarecraft. 304 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 305 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 306 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: Look for US on your podcast feed every morning on Apple, Spotify, 307 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 308 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning on London DAB Radio, 309 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,119 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 310 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station, is also available on your 311 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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