Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Selings Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: load glasses Malone, Pete Dogg was the deal my man?
Speaker 2: A long time no see?
Speaker 1: I know, man? Where are you being though? How you
Speaker 1: let all these no ceilings call without telling me? Let's
Speaker 1: do a no ceilings dog I like to know that.
Speaker 2: You have got to be kidding me.
Speaker 1: You've been letting me get packed out by these girls.
Speaker 2: There's no there's no saving it from that outcome.
Speaker 1: That's just that's just what come with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm always here me, I'm always here.
Speaker 1: You know you ain't always been there. You was moving around,
Speaker 1: You were somewhere else when I called.
Speaker 2: Because maybe like an hour's notice wouldn't be the worst
Speaker 2: thing of all time. Hey, we're in the middle of
Speaker 2: a podcast. Once't up ending.
Speaker 1: I'm like, huh, you know what, Maybe what we need
Speaker 1: to do is maybe what I need to do is
Speaker 1: every every Friday, like before I try to do the
Speaker 1: girls podcast, I need to do one with us and
Speaker 1: then one with them. What I need to do actually
Speaker 1: is make it to where we can all be in
Speaker 1: the same room. That's what I need to do. And
Speaker 1: then we have it over the phone.
Speaker 2: Or do it like it in the meantime. We could
Speaker 2: do it like you know how they have the State
Speaker 2: of the Union, and then there's the address and then
Speaker 2: afterwards there's the state of the Union rebuttal, like the
Speaker 2: wrap up rebuttal from the other side, something like that.
Speaker 1: I've been thinking this union. I think I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: a new spot that's literally dedicated to no seilings and
Speaker 1: you know, so, like what I'm working at is forty
Speaker 1: five fifty five minutes out the city, and everybody's trying
Speaker 1: to get me to get it closer. But because I
Speaker 1: want a podcast, I'm not trying to do a live
Speaker 1: stream or YouTube show. I'm not I don't care about
Speaker 1: other people coming to be a part of the conversation. Sure,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like with you with red, with bread,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I have more more than
Speaker 1: enough people to have really intelligent conversations with. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody was complimenting me the other day and they were saying, man, Glass,
Speaker 1: you're so intelligent. Now I'm not sure if it's through
Speaker 1: education and information, but it feels innate that to meet intelligence,
Speaker 1: even though people don't get what that means to me,
Speaker 1: it's the ability to listen, right, and then articulate an
Speaker 1: idea that corresponds with listening. So is it wrong if
Speaker 1: I think of intellect or intelligence as the ability to
Speaker 1: listen first and primarily.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, it's all about intake of information and
Speaker 2: manipulation and interpretation of that information, and then output and
Speaker 2: either regeneration or articulation of what you just put together.
Speaker 2: It's all about the way you engineer what you took
Speaker 2: in between when it comes in and when it goes
Speaker 2: out to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And another problem I have is like I've been
Speaker 1: working on it for the last three years, but I
Speaker 1: feel like when I talk to a lot of people
Speaker 1: because sometimes I know exactly the bullshit they're about to say,
Speaker 1: so it makes me cut them off cause it's like,
Speaker 1: don't get to that dumb ass point that you're about
Speaker 1: to say. Sure, So to truly be even more intelligent,
Speaker 1: I have to let them articulate that dumb ass shit
Speaker 1: they about to say all the way to the end.
Speaker 2: So they think that's an intelligence thing. No, that's that's
Speaker 2: just a patient stations.
Speaker 1: Okay. So that's what I've been really working on.
Speaker 2: The book I'm reading right now, I'm reading another one
Speaker 2: of the George Gilder books. This was Life After Capitalism.
Speaker 2: Just to give the amount of plug. Phenomenal book, but
Speaker 2: one of the pillars of the information theory of economics.
Speaker 2: He put a fourth pillar on theirs that information is surprised.
Speaker 2: It's surprise. Bits. If you and I just recite toopless
Speaker 2: two is four, back and forth to each other for
Speaker 2: an hour, no information has been exchanged because everything is known.
Speaker 2: Information is only the taking in of an unknown you know,
Speaker 2: quantity or bit of thought.
Speaker 1: HM, tell me about life at the capitalism? What's that about.
Speaker 2: It's basically talking about the post capitalist era that the
Speaker 2: economy is in, and you know, the term like emergency socialism,
Speaker 2: so to speak, where governments intervened on markets because of
Speaker 2: COVID or because of climate or whatever else, and redefining
Speaker 2: what capitalism really is a lot of you know, for entries,
Speaker 2: it was an assessment of scarcity, whereas this is looking
Speaker 2: at it as an assessment of abundance and the power
Speaker 2: of the human mind.
Speaker 1: That's deep.
Speaker 2: It's a great it's a phenomenal reader.
Speaker 1: I gotta read that book. Yeah, So what's been on
Speaker 1: my mind? I want to talk to you about is
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me a question and they asked me, in
Speaker 1: the modern podcast space, do I feel like it's creating
Speaker 1: more sexism? And I thought that was deep, right, because
Speaker 1: I look at different conversations I have with different people.
Speaker 1: You know, you have your social media friends that you
Speaker 1: share content back and forth with. You know, I probably
Speaker 1: have about ten or twelve people. Out of those ten
Speaker 1: and twelve people, maybe three or four are groups, and
Speaker 1: we're just exchanging information, right, content, and we're just really
Speaker 1: thinking about it, right, we're talking about it. But I
Speaker 1: am I'm starting to notice there is a really weird
Speaker 1: theme going on where people is spending entirely too much
Speaker 1: time trying to relate to men and women, men trying
Speaker 1: to relate to men, or women trying to relate to women,
Speaker 1: like all this stuff Puffy is going through right with Cassie,
Speaker 1: And you know, there are some red flags that go
Speaker 1: up obviously for me, right when I hear all of
Speaker 1: the accusations, it's like, damn hen you know, damn a
Speaker 1: nigga was doing all that to her. And then there's
Speaker 1: the red flags on Cassie side, like why would you
Speaker 1: wait until the statue of limitation is about to be up.
Speaker 1: Why is this in civil court and not criminal court? Right?
Speaker 1: So I look at both sides, and I really I
Speaker 1: look at the situation as a whole. But I noticed
Speaker 1: when I'm on social media, you'll have a line drew
Speaker 1: in the sand. And my initial issue with the line
Speaker 1: first is this is all charges that you know, you
Speaker 1: you you have to like you. Usually you need a
Speaker 1: court to decide if someone's guilty of this, But now
Speaker 1: we're in a space to where if you're charged with it,
Speaker 1: if they say this about you, is true, Like right now,
Speaker 1: Puffy is guilty true?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's yeah, And that's that's not particularly new, but
Speaker 2: it's worse now.
Speaker 1: Is that something that's rooted in intellect at that point? Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it the most primitive thing to believe
Speaker 1: the things that are said? Is it as primitive to
Speaker 1: believe like a woman said this, so it has to
Speaker 1: be true, Like so Cassie said this, so the other
Speaker 1: woman have to be like this has to be true
Speaker 1: because she said it.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's primitive. I think it's this is
Speaker 2: all kind of party to the same kind of conversation
Speaker 2: where you've had this communicative apparatus over the last couple
Speaker 2: of decads, Aid's that has attempted to define the conversation
Speaker 2: or redefine the conversation, so to speak, because you know,
Speaker 2: good and well, I mean, like you can go across
Speaker 2: the world to like more kind of archaic societies, and
Speaker 2: if a woman accuses a man of something, they just
Speaker 2: beat the shit out of her, tell her to shut up.
Speaker 2: You know, you go to Bangladesh as a woman and
Speaker 2: accused of guy raping you, It's like, unless five other
Speaker 2: men saw you get raped, you're full of shit, get
Speaker 2: the hell out of here. Yes, So I don't know
Speaker 2: necessarily that's the case that it is primitive to believe
Speaker 2: somebody on an accusation. I think that what is happening
Speaker 2: is you have this transitional point that we're in where
Speaker 2: you have people who inherently, without thinking, really really really
Speaker 2: trust the system. So they figure, well, if the system,
Speaker 2: you know, which I believe is effective, brought these charges,
Speaker 2: then it's more than likely true, or whether the system
Speaker 2: is flawed throughout the handling of the case whatever. But
Speaker 2: you have to be guilty in order to see a
Speaker 2: charge like that. That's I think a lot of people's
Speaker 2: inherent mindset. But then also like, as so far as
Speaker 2: the podcast space goes, it's the only place, like you
Speaker 2: can't go on to NBC and really provide pushback. So
Speaker 2: this became an area where you could provide pushback on
Speaker 2: certain narratives, and people went crazy with it. So it's like, oh, wait,
Speaker 2: you mean I can jump on a microphone and say
Speaker 2: an alternative narrative and they're not gonna yank me off
Speaker 2: my own show. No great, And then everybody did it.
Speaker 1: M no silings, gl my man, Peter back at it
Speaker 1: usual wow, suspects. Yeah, it's starting to make me like,
Speaker 1: it makes me it makes me cringe almost right. And
Speaker 1: again I don't know if it's something because I like,
Speaker 1: as I develop more patients, as I apply more ability
Speaker 1: to listen and reason, it makes me stand out in
Speaker 1: a room like I've been doing all of these promo
Speaker 1: runs and just stop and stop and really listening to
Speaker 1: people say something to me and then responding to them,
Speaker 1: you know, based off information, and and then I'll stop
Speaker 1: and I look today and I'll be like, damn man, like,
Speaker 1: how can y'all just all get right on your social
Speaker 1: media's and then just act like this is the ending
Speaker 1: point of it all? Like, how do you how do
Speaker 1: you act with so much conviction? Like with Takasi six ' nine, Right,
Speaker 1: I've seen everything happening, and I remember Nip telling me, like, man,
Speaker 1: that nigga gonna tell, And I'm like, nah, he gotta
Speaker 1: show me, he gonna tell, Like I'm giving everybody the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt or I won't convict him, you know,
Speaker 1: right until they tell. Yeah, it's just weird to me.
Speaker 1: It's almost like nobody wants to think. Nobody wants to
Speaker 1: leave a space to like people are not even smart
Speaker 1: enough to leave a space to be wrong. It's like
Speaker 1: it's this ve sense of conviction, and I can't help
Speaker 1: but truly believe it's a lack of intellect. And when
Speaker 1: I say it's a lack of intellect, it's because the
Speaker 1: emotional side of your brain is overpowering the reasonable side
Speaker 1: of your brain.
Speaker 2: I think it's a few things. I think that's part
Speaker 2: of it. I think that's part of the rest of it.
Speaker 2: IQ distributions of Bell curve right, The majority of the
Speaker 2: people are pretty mediocre just from a raw cognitive brute
Speaker 2: strength capacity, you know what I mean? People being wrong
Speaker 2: if you have an intellectual insecurity being proven wrong, especially
Speaker 2: to your face, isn't your greatest moment, you know, So
Speaker 2: we'll try to stifle debate. We'll try to, you know,
Speaker 2: protect ourselves from being perceived as wrong as much as
Speaker 2: as as possible, you know. And quite honestly, most people
Speaker 2: aren't very bright. It's it's almost kind of like you
Speaker 2: can go back to like high school math or high
Speaker 2: school physics. There's the well, hey, nobody would raise a hand,
Speaker 2: but you have the people who will sit there and
Speaker 2: they give you the plug and play formula. Here's your thing,
Speaker 2: here's your plug and play formula, here's whatever. And you
Speaker 2: might have minds like you or me who don't give
Speaker 2: it about the formula. We're going to solve the problem
Speaker 2: through engineering. The concept carte blanche off a blank sheet,
Speaker 2: and our understanding of the principle is superior to theirs,
Speaker 2: because all they're doing is roboting what they're being told
Speaker 2: to do without being able to really break down and
Speaker 2: foundation construct what it is that they're doing in the
Speaker 2: first place.
Speaker 1: M So it's the it's the it's the easiest road
Speaker 1: travel for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's whether we're wrong or not. We're
Speaker 2: going to insulate our vulnerability to being wrong through groupthink
Speaker 2: and through collective majority of uniformity of thought.
Speaker 1: M So great point, right, And I do think like
Speaker 1: me and head and sallus always argue because they think
Speaker 1: people are stupid. I don't think people are stupid. I
Speaker 1: don't think most people are incapable of learn, right, I
Speaker 1: are incapable of learning. I think most people are distracted,
Speaker 1: Like life has a way, you know, of distracting you,
Speaker 1: especially your IQ. You know what I mean if your
Speaker 1: IQ is not again, IQ is the ability to listen
Speaker 1: and focus more than even speak out Like I think
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather is a perfect example of somebody that's highly
Speaker 1: intelligent but not educated thousand percent.
Speaker 2: I mean, I accuse your ability to like construct, you know,
Speaker 2: patterns and engineer kind of thought and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Sure, So even if somebody can't speak like of Floyd Mayweather,
Speaker 1: I think he's highly intelligent. And you could see it
Speaker 1: in the thing that he was schooled in, right and
Speaker 1: where he's schooled at. It's not always he don't have
Speaker 1: to be completely fundamentally sound, right, he can be. He
Speaker 1: could kind of take the information and then he makes
Speaker 1: things work based off of who he is and to me,
Speaker 1: that's the cornerstone of intellect.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I had this dough theory. The world is sheeps, wolves,
Speaker 1: and shepherds.
Speaker 2: Thousand percent.
Speaker 1: Right. Sheeps are people, right who pretty much are distracted
Speaker 1: with the concept of just eating or whatever they think
Speaker 1: eating is. So therefore or they take group thought from
Speaker 1: all of the sheep, the whole flock, and whatever the
Speaker 1: flock is doing. That's what they do because it's more comfortable,
Speaker 1: and you can get the concept of social currency. You
Speaker 1: can gain social currency a lot easier.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, you have the few wolves, right, because it's never
Speaker 1: as many wolves as there is sheeps, And you have
Speaker 1: the few wolves that prey on the sheep, right, and
Speaker 1: they like, look at the sheep, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it might be three or four and it's a
Speaker 1: thousand sheep, but every day they figure out a way
Speaker 1: to prey on the sheep. And then you have shepherds,
Speaker 1: people who protect the sheep and take them from where
Speaker 1: they need to go the safest way to make sure
Speaker 1: that they're eating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's easier to be a wolf than a shepherd.
Speaker 1: That's my problem now, right, I'm a shepherd. Right, It's
Speaker 1: really hard because I got homies that are wolves. They
Speaker 1: they prey on the sheep's ability to be, you know,
Speaker 1: to be distracted with something as simple as eating. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's how they're able to get their meals.
Speaker 2: I think. I think to continue with like the discussion
Speaker 2: that you have with Head and those guys, in so
Speaker 2: far as people being stupid or distracted, I think that
Speaker 2: there's a snowballing effect and accumulation of the more the
Speaker 2: more time you spend distracted and disengaged, it's not just
Speaker 2: that you're missing information. You get to a point where
Speaker 2: you fail to pick up tools that other people who
Speaker 2: are engaged pick up over time. So then if that
Speaker 2: happens for ten years, one person with a bunch of
Speaker 2: tools and how to think and how to reason and
Speaker 2: all these type of things has it and can do it,
Speaker 2: whereas the other person and they might have been distracted,
Speaker 2: but there's consequences to that distraction. Now they don't even
Speaker 2: have the tools. So you afford them the time, they
Speaker 2: can't make as much of the time because they lack
Speaker 2: the tools.
Speaker 1: Well, but I also think that's because Okay, the more
Speaker 1: you focus on achieving cheap things like happiness. Yeah, happiness
Speaker 1: is cheap. Sure, the true joy is what it's about.
Speaker 1: Happiness is cheap. Joy, you know, is really the work.
Speaker 2: They call it a happy ending, not a joyful ending.
Speaker 1: Has them right? Happiness is a dollar fifty on a
Speaker 1: hot day, a dollar dollar fifty cent on a hot day,
Speaker 1: like ice cold water. Happiness is a fleeing thought. Joy
Speaker 1: is a is an existence. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I call happiness joy refined or joy or you're pasteurized.
Speaker 2: Yeah, happiness is almost a symptom of joy, and joy
Speaker 2: is my life is the disease in a good way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. I like that. So
Speaker 1: then let me ask you a question. You get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying right when I talk about sheeps, you know,
Speaker 1: wool sheeps and shepherds. Yeah, right, as a shepherd, like right,
Speaker 1: there are so many sacrifices I have to make, right
Speaker 1: whereas like I have to know that I'm not probably
Speaker 1: eating sheep, true, you know what I mean, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna get lamb chops, right, it's not part of
Speaker 1: But I can live a quality existence regardless, and a
Speaker 1: moral and a fruitful existence regardless, right by based off
Speaker 1: of you know, a level of peacefulness that when I
Speaker 1: walk when I walk through this country, right when I
Speaker 1: stop in New York, and when somebody feelings hurt, I
Speaker 1: don't feel nothing, you know what I mean? Because I'm
Speaker 1: exposing their wolfish ways right of praying on people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or maybe there's sheep this ways, because if
Speaker 2: you're a sheep, you're dependent. All you can do is
Speaker 2: be dissatisfied. There's nothing else you can do as a sheep.
Speaker 2: You can be grateful or you can be dissatisfied, but
Speaker 2: you can't be It's like the spectrum of zero to
Speaker 2: negative ten or a positive ten. You can't even get
Speaker 2: from one to ten. There either zero or negative ten
Speaker 2: is a sheep because you don't you don't control your
Speaker 2: own outcome.
Speaker 1: That's really how the human race is absolutely in America.
Speaker 1: Fuck this fucking me up. Is it a decision to
Speaker 1: be a shepherd or a wolf? Like, why does it
Speaker 1: feel like I can't be a wolf?
Speaker 2: That's that's a person. Yeah, to be a shepherd or
Speaker 2: a wolf is a personal choice. Some people maybe can't
Speaker 2: be a shepherd, but can be a wolf. I think
Speaker 2: I think it's a hierarchy of degree of difficult you know,
Speaker 2: the commitments like being a sheep is the default setting.
Speaker 2: It's harder to be a wolf than a sheep. You know,
Speaker 2: you have to really you have to do something but
Speaker 2: you but you operate in the world of misdirection and
Speaker 2: deceit and taking advantage of those who aren't suspecting. Usually
Speaker 2: wolves don't attack a bunch of sheep head on. They
Speaker 2: like wait till they're like a sleep or whatever. They
Speaker 2: creep in from the back and they grab them from
Speaker 2: the back, leg whatever to help. Being a shepherd is
Speaker 2: even harder because you're operating in truth and reality at
Speaker 2: all times, you know, with with without using smoking mirrors
Speaker 2: and deceit to get by.
Speaker 1: What do you fancy yourself as.
Speaker 2: Man? I don't know. It's a good question, honestly. If anything,
Speaker 2: I might be like like kind of a lone wolf
Speaker 2: because I'm I'm too indifferent to honestly consider myself a shepherd. Sure,
Speaker 2: but I don't really I don't feed off Some people
Speaker 2: really feed off getting over on people.
Speaker 1: And I know, no, that's not your No, no, that's
Speaker 1: not true at all, And that's why it's a weird space.
Speaker 1: Like so I feel like you're a shepherd that's lost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a flockless shepherd.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I really don't want to leave these people,
Speaker 1: but I'm being pressured to lead these people, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's because you have your own
Speaker 1: things you want to accomplish, right, you want to You
Speaker 1: have your own things you want to accomplish.
Speaker 2: I'm like the shepherd who mapped out the stars and
Speaker 2: the constellations, and while he was doing that, half his
Speaker 2: flock got eaten by wolf's fucking crime. I was like,
Speaker 2: I told you ship heads not to stand over by
Speaker 2: that river at night. Go back to these stars.
Speaker 1: Go back to these stars. Sometimes when I look at
Speaker 1: the music industry and I look at people, like, to me,
Speaker 1: they'll paint Puff like a wolf. And I don't think
Speaker 1: Puff as a wolf. I don't think he prays on
Speaker 1: the innocent, you know what I mean. I don't. I
Speaker 1: just don't think that. Like, and I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: because it's a twin cubs fighting Drake. Between the accusations
Speaker 1: of this and then that whole thirty five page you know,
Speaker 1: all the train, all the uh, the deposition from why
Speaker 1: he's being charged civilly, Yeah, you know, it makes me
Speaker 1: think i'd be like, fuck, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But I just can't jump over that clip like that.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you know, Mark Curry or Mace
Speaker 1: says about Puff as far as oh, you know what,
Speaker 1: he didn't give me back my you know, the publishing
Speaker 1: or the royalty, just like yeah, but that's because I mean,
Speaker 1: you were a sheep and he guided you to greener pastures, right,
Speaker 1: and now you're eating these greener pastures and you're like,
Speaker 1: well they can be greener if Puff, you know, just
Speaker 1: walk me over here and didn't make any money.
Speaker 2: Nothing to do but be dissatisfied. And I think we're
Speaker 2: walking up to the to a critical point in that
Speaker 2: to be a shepherd, you have to be strong and
Speaker 2: you have to make difficult decisions. Like the most famous
Speaker 2: shepherd of men throughout history is probably Moses. Sure, and
Speaker 2: a lot of those people. I'm not that familiar with
Speaker 2: the story and the acan biblical stuff in my saying,
Speaker 2: but I from what I recall, there was a lot
Speaker 2: of dissatisfaction with the guy. Yeah, throughout the course of
Speaker 2: the journey. And sometimes when you've got sheep, you got
Speaker 2: a wounded sheep, breaks this leg, you might have to
Speaker 2: just were down to nineteen. You can't sacrifice the many
Speaker 2: for the one all the time.
Speaker 1: You must also have to have tough skin.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 1: It's funny because in this world wolves are more respected
Speaker 1: than shepherds. Yeah, the difference is even though wolves are
Speaker 1: it's like wolves are praised by sheep as well as
Speaker 1: it's like because they fear them, they're praised by them, right,
Speaker 1: but they're fired the shepherd himself, you know, is not
Speaker 1: really like I don't say the sheep load the shepherds, right,
Speaker 1: but it's like there's not a true gratefulness about these
Speaker 1: of it all.
Speaker 2: They like the perfect illustration of that is like the
Speaker 2: preacher's daughter being the slut. No respect for the shepherd
Speaker 2: tried to guide this woman by down the right path,
Speaker 2: but all the respect for the dude trying to compromise
Speaker 2: her the wolf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've really had to do a much better job
Speaker 1: because of fortifying who I am internally to do this
Speaker 1: run that I'm doing as far as we counsel these
Speaker 1: nuts and moving forward like like I've had to really
Speaker 1: because the type of slack that I take and I'm
Speaker 1: going to take is almost like otherworldly because it's like
Speaker 1: you're trying to lead the sheeps to better places and
Speaker 1: they're like, nah, they said this, the wolf said this
Speaker 1: is the way to go. Like I've had conversations with
Speaker 1: loved ones and close people to me and explaining to
Speaker 1: them like yo, Like I got a conversation with the
Speaker 1: hummies the other day shout out to uh after Apollo,
Speaker 1: Miami mac Wap, cool Youngster king TF And I was
Speaker 1: telling them. They was like, glasses, why don't you drink
Speaker 1: and smoke? And I'm like, you ever seen somebody drunk?
Speaker 1: And they was like yeah, I get it. But you
Speaker 1: could just see like they had got so used to
Speaker 1: the concept of poisoning themselves as some sense of fun.
Speaker 1: So as I tell people do not drink cuz they
Speaker 1: be like tripping. And I'm like, why is this something
Speaker 1: that's crazy me telling you not to poison yourself, Like
Speaker 1: if I'm telling the girl, like if I'm on a
Speaker 1: podcast right and I'm telling the girl like, hey, you
Speaker 1: know what you shouldn't put out to the man married you,
Speaker 1: Like they frowned at me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, these are crutches that they've grown accustomed to.
Speaker 2: You know, the legs are strong, but they're used to
Speaker 2: the crutch, and now the crutch has given them, you know,
Speaker 2: they got to back like mister Burns from the from
Speaker 2: the Simpsons, from walking with that that walker for so long.
Speaker 2: But you they don't take that walker from me. Man,
Speaker 2: I don't want to stand up like that.
Speaker 1: Hmm. Damn. This is a rough This is a rough
Speaker 1: thing to have to deal with. It's a rough fucking
Speaker 1: thing to have to deal with, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I don't think I've ever spent time around somebody
Speaker 1: I don't want the best for sure, believe you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't think I've ever spent time
Speaker 1: like sometimes I realize their life would be better without
Speaker 1: me in it because something along the way, Like if
Speaker 1: I met a girl growing up, I mean as I
Speaker 1: was a younger daughter, and I felt like I didn't
Speaker 1: have the right intentions for her, I would just let
Speaker 1: it go. Like I couldn't. I couldn't just keep interacting
Speaker 1: with her for this personal means of eating and she
Speaker 1: was going to get nothing at the end of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And sometimes you know, there were some sheeps who would
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know what, I don't care. I
Speaker 1: just want to be eaten. I don't, you know, like
Speaker 1: they don't understand the ending result that you're gonna die. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we spiritually you're gonna lose a little bit of yourself.
Speaker 1: But it's so much of this kind of concept where
Speaker 1: we're trying to have this think about it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: We come up in this system, right, we come up
Speaker 1: in this world and we want most women want this
Speaker 1: old school concept marriage, right, which is this hell a
Speaker 1: traditional concept, right where you meet somebody and you spend
Speaker 1: the rest of your life with them, you start a family,
Speaker 1: you spend the rest and you pretty much with them
Speaker 1: the whole time, and you do this for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life. But then, like they don't trip at
Speaker 1: the original idea of that, right, Like when you got married,
Speaker 1: a woman would give you her body, not give you
Speaker 1: a hused body, give you her body, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and that was one of the greatest things that men
Speaker 1: receive for marriage, right, because you when you know, the
Speaker 1: original concept of marriage, right, Like as far as the
Speaker 1: way we practiced in America is you pretty much take
Speaker 1: on the responsibility of this woman. Yeah, I feel like, right,
Speaker 1: that's why she has your name. She becomes part of
Speaker 1: your property. And I hate using that term, but yeah,
Speaker 1: like she becomes your responsibility to care for, to care
Speaker 1: for and exchange for that, right, you got this person's body,
Speaker 1: right because outside of you finish, go bust your ass
Speaker 1: to take care of them. Right, You're gonna bust your
Speaker 1: ass to take care of them, and she will cook
Speaker 1: and cling for you. But because of the sacrifice, you
Speaker 1: got her body as well. But now, like you know,
Speaker 1: you meeting women right who literally have been practicing with
Speaker 1: their body. So the one thing that you would get
Speaker 1: from them outside out of the fact that it's a person,
Speaker 1: is you would get this thing that nobody else had.
Speaker 1: But that's not true now, and then you also so
Speaker 1: then a woman also now just like a man. Right,
Speaker 1: the comparison thing, like I keep saying, comparison is the
Speaker 1: thief of joy. Sure, right, So if you've had seven dicks,
Speaker 1: or if you've been with seven men, you start to
Speaker 1: compare your men and other men, and you start to
Speaker 1: realize the weirdest part is you start to compare them
Speaker 1: to people that it didn't work out with. But you
Speaker 1: like that much about them. But that thing about them
Speaker 1: that you like about them is probably the ultimate reason
Speaker 1: why the rest of how they are completely the rest
Speaker 1: of their life. And then you just stuck dealing with
Speaker 1: that shit. So how do you live this hella untraditional existence,
Speaker 1: and then tried to complete it with a traditional ending.
Speaker 1: And then we wonder why, you know, six or seven
Speaker 1: out of ten marriages ending divorce in America, How could
Speaker 1: it not?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that the accessibility of divorce is
Speaker 2: so self perpetuating. Like not only is it not a
Speaker 2: big deal to get a divorce anymore, so that's self perpetuating,
Speaker 2: but the fact that it's so easy to do and
Speaker 2: so acceptable leads a lot of marriage dynamics, Like just
Speaker 2: in dating pre marriage likes, it's damn near a blackmail
Speaker 2: scheme by women. Get me what I want, whatever that
Speaker 2: might be, be it material, be it sexual, be it
Speaker 2: your personality, be it time, whatever that might be. Give
Speaker 2: me what I want or I'm going to leave, you know,
Speaker 2: And it's turned into this. Relationships America have turned into
Speaker 2: these referendums on women's satisfaction. You know, they perceive themselves
Speaker 2: to be the high demand component of the market and
Speaker 2: in short supply. And it's not about a commitment and
Speaker 2: a collaborative build it is. It is about men have
Speaker 2: turned into vehicles for women's fulfillment. You know, in the
Speaker 2: modern dynamic of a lot of marriages and relationships. If
Speaker 2: woman's not gonna when when when they say, look the
Speaker 2: number the number one statistical reason for divorce by far
Speaker 2: is money. Those are not men filing for divorce because
Speaker 2: their wife doesn't make enough money. Okay, they're just not.
Speaker 2: Those are women who want a guide spend more money
Speaker 2: on them or make more money for them, and the
Speaker 2: guy isn't doing it, and they're fucking out of there. So, like,
Speaker 2: you have to at some point be conscious of the
Speaker 2: idea that if I don't keep this woman happy, she's out,
Speaker 2: you know, and and and that disequilibrium of leverage your
Speaker 2: relationship is nearly impossible for relationship survive under those circles stances.
Speaker 1: So let's say one hundred years ago, before it was
Speaker 1: this dynamic, and let's say that power structure was on
Speaker 1: the men's side. Marriage is last. But were women miserable?
Speaker 2: I don't know. It seems like I've see a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff that. You know, the happiness index among women
Speaker 2: is down now. I mean a lot of it is
Speaker 2: because they aren't married at all. They're entrenched in professions
Speaker 2: that give them stuff that they don't want her value.
Speaker 2: They don't have kids, and you know, or they have kids,
Speaker 2: they don't have a man, whatever, there's missing components in
Speaker 2: their lives now that are different than what used to
Speaker 2: be the norm. I don't believe that every marriage was
Speaker 2: a guy going to work, coming home, getting drunk and
Speaker 2: beating the shit out of his wife after she cooked
Speaker 2: dinner every fucking night. You know, that's how marriage was
Speaker 2: painted pre nineteen sixty in the case.
Speaker 1: That is how it was painted today. That's fair.
Speaker 2: We all got grandparents and grant grandparents. They weren't all
Speaker 2: drunk beating the shit out of the other one.
Speaker 1: No, No, that's not what was happening.
Speaker 2: And not every woman was like, why won't you fucking
Speaker 2: let me be a lawyer? That's all I want to do.
Speaker 2: They wanted to do what they wanted. They want to
Speaker 2: do the regular day shit. I just.
Speaker 1: So, how is it supposed to work today? Like do
Speaker 1: we need to redefine kind of the concept at that point?
Speaker 2: This is very funny. I'm a big fan of this guy,
Speaker 2: Gordon Chang. He's a senior fellow of some think tank
Speaker 2: out of DC focuses on China. So for geopolitical strategy,
Speaker 2: the Pacific rim and stuff is a very interesting listen.
Speaker 2: But this week he did an interview talking about like
Speaker 2: China had the one child policy, you know, which culturally, hey,
Speaker 2: you had a lot more men being kept quote unquote
Speaker 2: than girls because people wanted their first and only born
Speaker 2: to be a son. Additionally, women were told and convinced
Speaker 2: that having kids and getting married and stuff was not
Speaker 2: that great.
Speaker 1: I wasn't success.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So now they're China's facing what's They're on the
Speaker 2: precipice of entering the steepest demographic population decline from now
Speaker 2: until you know, twenty one hundred in human history, Like
Speaker 2: they're they're gonna lose like a billion people in population.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: So Shijin Ping has come out and he's getting like
Speaker 2: that's just starting to become a real issue. So he's
Speaker 2: now saying, I want to start discouraging women from entering
Speaker 2: the workforce, and I want to start discouraging these overly
Speaker 2: lavish weddings, basically meaning we're losing population because women want
Speaker 2: to have jobs and they want weddings that are so
Speaker 2: fucking expensive the men don't want to marry them.
Speaker 1: Quiet, but then they also have a control over their
Speaker 1: like the population breeding and shit.
Speaker 2: Like it was like, well, that's what I'm saying, the
Speaker 2: one child policy. So it did skew the male female
Speaker 2: you know percentage to a large degree, but it also
Speaker 2: had a cultural shift where you know, women were so
Speaker 2: that everyone didn't go fucking insane and revolt. They tried
Speaker 2: to re educate women on what their own happiness is.
Speaker 2: And you've seen a lot of that happen in the
Speaker 2: United States also to a different ends, but well to
Speaker 2: a similar ends but a different you know purpose in
Speaker 2: the post feminist era.
Speaker 1: But okay, so at that point, with all of those
Speaker 1: things into into thought, right, because we're talking about sheep, right,
Speaker 1: and are we making a mistake by not giving people Okay,
Speaker 1: is the mistake America not moving women into one direction? Like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what success is being Mary, Success is being
Speaker 1: with a husband and having a family and a man providing.
Speaker 1: Is that correct or? Because to me, a big problem
Speaker 1: is everybody's trying to set their own metric for success. Right,
Speaker 1: That's what we have. So it's like even with me
Speaker 1: in the music business, right, if I'm in the record business,
Speaker 1: success is a gold record, success is a Grammy award,
Speaker 1: success is certifications. Right, that's success. Now that's not to
Speaker 1: say earning a living. You know, you don't have to
Speaker 1: have a gold record to earn a living in the
Speaker 1: music business. You don't have to excuse me, in the
Speaker 1: record business, you don't need that. But in the record business,
Speaker 1: success is a goal plaque?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: So? Or is this where we're making the mistake? Is
Speaker 1: the mistake that we're We're like women are setting their
Speaker 1: own metrics to success to where they think it's achievable.
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking at certain girls twerk and they're like,
Speaker 1: I'm successful because three hundred thousand people follow me, or
Speaker 1: like Kim Kardashian, right, Whereas like I'm successful because I
Speaker 1: have black children and I'm the face of a few
Speaker 1: organizations and movements. So now there's no reason, Like is
Speaker 1: that the kind of conversation of sheep where you're letting
Speaker 1: sheep make their own decision and now they're just scattered
Speaker 1: all over the place and wolves are attacking them every
Speaker 1: bit of the way.
Speaker 2: I think it's maybe less that than it is wolves
Speaker 2: wearing a robe and holding a stick and pretending to
Speaker 2: be shepherds and leading sheep in a bad direction. I
Speaker 2: think there's an element of it that's also to each
Speaker 2: his own one thing I've noticed personally, is a lot
Speaker 2: of girls that's spent a lot of time showing pictures
Speaker 2: of their ass all over social media, which is a
Speaker 2: reflection of their priorities. When they have kids, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, their social media turns to nothing of pictures
Speaker 2: of their kids for years and music. Okay, so that's
Speaker 2: now your priority, that's your happiness, that's what you're choosing
Speaker 2: to do with your time. I think, I think, like,
Speaker 2: you don't know what you don't know. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: women are being told go to college, go to graduate school,
Speaker 2: pursue you know, the high, high income whatever position, and
Speaker 2: you know, marry richer than you and you'll have happiness
Speaker 2: and success or just be career oriented and whatever. So
Speaker 2: they buy and do it. They pursue that they get there,
Speaker 2: and you know, time is the ultimate expiring commodity. They
Speaker 2: don't know what they don't know. And when they get there,
Speaker 2: I think a lot of them realize, hey, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm not really happy. This was maybe not the best choice.
Speaker 2: But guess what, I'm forty. It's over stuck with it.
Speaker 1: But they still go out and pursue. Right, there's still
Speaker 1: the same dream, and that's the weird part. Like I'll
Speaker 1: watch girls I follow on Twitter, right, or girls that
Speaker 1: I see coming across my timeline. They'll be just showing
Speaker 1: the ass talking about getting a husband. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: just genuinely can't believe, like a porn stars, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: when I find my husband and it's like that.
Speaker 2: Remember that's that girl from the background that one time
Speaker 2: we did the podcast was a girl on the background. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's her late thirties. I want to get married. Whatever
Speaker 2: you go on Instagram, it's nothing but working videos, and
Speaker 2: you know, well I end up. You know, I'm ready
Speaker 2: to get married. Da da da da dah. Well okay,
Speaker 2: well you got no money and you just spent Halloween
Speaker 2: posting scantily clad slut imagery of you in various thematic
Speaker 2: slut stripper costumes all over the fucking place. Well, what
Speaker 2: are you doing to reach this objective that you have
Speaker 2: set for yourself and why is it not coming together?
Speaker 2: I think women also disassociate. They think I want to
Speaker 2: do whatever I want to do, I wonder whatever I
Speaker 2: want to do, and and and the onus is then
Speaker 2: on men to accept me or whatever. It's all the
Speaker 2: wrong question until the right one comes up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: It's the same that that video I made a while
Speaker 2: back talking about you know, no one says like I
Speaker 2: forgot the general theme of it. But it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: women will, well, we'll complain in different ways of men
Speaker 2: will complain a man opening up that That's what it was.
Speaker 2: I was saying, women will do a bunch of stuff
Speaker 2: to their appearance or not cater their appearance to what
Speaker 2: men find attractive, and then complain about the men for
Speaker 2: not finding it attractive, which were like, men don't decide.
Speaker 2: And then there's there's a degree of it, but it's
Speaker 2: tantamount to like the group of men that want to
Speaker 2: just do dumb shit or whatever the fucking end up
Speaker 2: with very little money, and then bitch about how women
Speaker 2: want a man with means. It's like, if you know
Speaker 2: what they want, be what they want, and that that
Speaker 2: works in both directions. And conversely, if you're a man
Speaker 2: with means and this woman over there wants a man
Speaker 2: what means, well, now you're ri well, what's she You
Speaker 2: want a woman who's a B C D and she's
Speaker 2: e fg H, so fuck her, she's gone. People don't
Speaker 2: appreciate it's like, oh, it's like opening up any any anything. Like,
Speaker 2: you open up a taco stand in La It's gonna
Speaker 2: do pretty well. People people love tacos if you open
Speaker 2: up up You ever been inside of a Russian market
Speaker 2: or Russian deli or liquor store. They have all this
Speaker 2: weird jarred pickled meat because they got to preserve shit
Speaker 2: through the winter for nine fuck it's the most diss
Speaker 2: It looks like dog food in a glass jar. I
Speaker 2: understand why those people are angry and overthrowing their government
Speaker 2: going to war all the time. I would be pissed too,
Speaker 2: But if I opened up a Russian jarred pickled meat stand,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have and it went out of business. It's
Speaker 2: not the customer's fault. You know. You have to at
Speaker 2: some point cater to your market.
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Speaker 1: This episode was recorded right here on the West coast
Speaker 1: of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King
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