WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2024 Q2 MLB Derivative Stats Show

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday morning, July third, twenty twenty four. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>Beating the Book Podcast MLB Derivatives Q two with Mark Borchert.

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<v Speaker 1>A tradition unlike any other. Literally, I said this the

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<v Speaker 1>last time, the oldest of the Beating the Book series,

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<v Speaker 1>even older than the megapod and guessing lines. How about

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<v Speaker 1>that Mark porchrid from an undisclosed location in the desert

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<v Speaker 1>at Base Winner. What's happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's It's amazing that we've been around so long. Gil.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes you feel kind of old. But you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I remember, handicapping for whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>When you bring that up, the two thousand and six

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<v Speaker 3>World Series Rockies in Red Sox. Oh man, God, you

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<v Speaker 3>know that was almost twenty years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that two thousand and six or seven?

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<v Speaker 2>Two thousand and six? Yeah, because two.

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<v Speaker 1>Thousand and seven, wasn't that that horrible Cardinals team that

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<v Speaker 1>won the World Series? That might have been the worst

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<v Speaker 1>team to ever win a World Series?

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I think they beat the Tigers that year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But two thousand and six, the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado Rockies got to a World Series is just one

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<v Speaker 1>of the more by the way, we talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>most amazing feats in sports history. Given the troubles of

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<v Speaker 1>h roster construction of a team in corse Field, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they got to a World Series is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of this under the radar incredible thing that happened in sports.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think the Red Sox swept them, didn't They.

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<v Speaker 3>They did, and there was there was a Ubaldo Jimenez

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<v Speaker 3>just pitched like I mean, he was lights out for

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<v Speaker 3>two months. I remember just just wanting to dial into

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<v Speaker 3>the radio to the serious for the games because he

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<v Speaker 3>was he was a striking guys out.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just amazing. And then the guy kind of

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<v Speaker 2>fizzled out.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the early part of that season. He was unbelievable. Yep, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who could forget all right? So, for those who are

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<v Speaker 1>new to this mark, and I have been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for more than a decade, we do a Q one,

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<v Speaker 1>we do a Q two, we do a Q three,

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<v Speaker 1>which is essentially and I get it. We're a little

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<v Speaker 1>past the eighty one game mark, so we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>missed it precisely. But we're still in the eighties here

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<v Speaker 1>in the early eighties of games played, all Star breaks,

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<v Speaker 1>still a week and a half away from Major League

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball and we will do a Q three And essentially

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<v Speaker 1>the point of this is not, hey, look at all

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<v Speaker 1>these stats. The point of all this is, look at

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<v Speaker 1>these stats. Is there something predictive about these moving forward

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<v Speaker 1>that can help us in our bettings? Some are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be just you know, moments in time narratives. But

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<v Speaker 1>as we go from Q one to Q two, I

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<v Speaker 1>think now these stats are much more robust, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can say sustainable or unsustainable. That's the name of this game.

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<v Speaker 1>And we crescendo to the more proprietary stats. We will

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<v Speaker 1>get to first fives that will be preceded by umpires.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark is a unbelievable resource of historical umpire data. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll look at the twenty twenty four umpire data and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll sort of cross check it with Mark's historical ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we'll do the first five stuff, and we'll also

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<v Speaker 1>do first inning numbers for pitchers because people like betting

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<v Speaker 1>first innings first. As always though, Mark, and thank you

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, let me just say, because if we

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<v Speaker 1>count these all up, this is god it We kinda

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<v Speaker 1>have done like almost forty of these. It's just incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Spending the best years of our lives talking about quarterly baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else

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<v Speaker 3>actually on a beat to July third?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And can we start with that before we get into

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<v Speaker 1>the stats. How come Major League Baseball is this stupid mark?

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<v Speaker 1>It's July third, it's a Wednesday. Every Wednesday has full

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<v Speaker 1>day major League Baseball. Why just because it's July fourth tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>did they decide we're not going to have any day

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<v Speaker 1>games on July third? Why?

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<v Speaker 2>It's the weirdest thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You think they'd want to have more because I think

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<v Speaker 3>they'll probably have some day games tomorrow on a Joy four,

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<v Speaker 3>so it could give the guys, give the guys a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of extra rest. I don't understand that, And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand in the summertime. And I love the

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday night card. It's a full card, but there's usually

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<v Speaker 3>no day games on a Tuesday. So like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>instead of betting on baseball, we're betting on euro Soccer.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean really like, like like putting it from

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<v Speaker 3>a revenue perspective, if I think that that having a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of day games on a Tuesday would be in

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<v Speaker 3>the summertime, would be a good idea, Gil.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a we had a tweet this morning where

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<v Speaker 1>someone's like, well, because they want everybody, we want all

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<v Speaker 1>these ballparks to have fireworks. That's why they're putting all

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<v Speaker 1>the games at night. I go, but yeah, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>day games on July fourth, So like that doesn't make

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<v Speaker 1>any sense. Just flip them then, right, have some day

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<v Speaker 1>today and those play night tomorrow and vice versa. I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying early. I was joking on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>radio side this morning. I was like, it's like Major

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<v Speaker 1>League Baseball, like Rob Manfred's like, for god's sake, we

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<v Speaker 1>have all the fans we need. Let's not do anything

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<v Speaker 1>to get more fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's so it's so aggravating because they do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, let's let's pop up MLB dot Com.

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<v Speaker 3>Wonderful way to take in baseball. You can watch four

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<v Speaker 3>games at one time with different feeds audio. If you

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<v Speaker 3>like the Braves radio broadcasters, which I really like, you

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<v Speaker 3>can listen to them when you're betting a Braves game.

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<v Speaker 3>So their technology is really getting me and from a

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<v Speaker 3>from a data guy, from a processing guy, uh, the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that comes from their APIs is incredible. So good, good,

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<v Speaker 3>for them on that, but like, hey guys, let's have

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<v Speaker 3>a ball machine to try to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get as consistent with the balls as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that that would be up the first and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, you know, try to trying to listen to

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<v Speaker 3>what people are saying, you know, the whole the rollball

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<v Speaker 3>up thing. And I think we went off on that

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<v Speaker 3>on one of the shows we did this year, because

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<v Speaker 3>there's a pivotal call. It seems like in every game

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<v Speaker 3>that you watch, every game that you bet, and if

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<v Speaker 3>the guy misses the call, it changes the whole course

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<v Speaker 3>of the bet Gill and so like, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>that's got to be looked at really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, it's like I even said this day also,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you know, we've we've gained so much attention

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<v Speaker 1>for these monthly Major League Baseball Most Wins markets that

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<v Speaker 1>we've been betting on a numbers game and we just

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<v Speaker 1>hit the Astros one for those on the podcast side

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<v Speaker 1>that missed on the radio side, we just hit the

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<v Speaker 1>Astros in June. And it's like it's gained so much

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<v Speaker 1>interest with listeners and it's almost like Rob Manfred would

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<v Speaker 1>call the sports books, for god's sakes, take those markets

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<v Speaker 1>down there's too much interest being generated. We can't have

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<v Speaker 1>more fans. We're all saturated.

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<v Speaker 3>It's insane because they have such a They've got a

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<v Speaker 3>really good product and it's just a matter of marketing

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<v Speaker 3>at it correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>At least of course I'm biased because that's this is

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<v Speaker 2>all I do, is baseball gals.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude. Obviously I lived that life for years, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you do baseball every day, it is all immersive.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always bring up the you know when Ray

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<v Speaker 1>Allen this is for whatever reason, this is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that I always remember. When Ray Allen hit that amazing

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<v Speaker 1>shot for the Miami Heat against the Spurs and the

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<v Speaker 1>finals in twenty thirteen, I was like unaware that the

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<v Speaker 1>game was even on because you're so immersed in some

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<v Speaker 1>random baseball bet. Oh I've got the Indians again, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at that time against the Tigers. It's much more important

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<v Speaker 1>to me this night than this NBA fun. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the life we choose, and I love you said. We've

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<v Speaker 1>chosen to chosen to use our best years for doing

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<v Speaker 1>these Q these Q Q one, Q two and Q

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<v Speaker 1>three pots. So let's start with you know, just in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of money, making. This is a bizarro exercise. If

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<v Speaker 1>you bet these teams, every one of these teams in

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<v Speaker 1>every game, if they were a dog, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars to win more if they were a favorite

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<v Speaker 1>laying to win one hundred dollars. The number one money

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<v Speaker 1>making team in baseball thus far this year is who

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<v Speaker 1>do you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Mark? Cleveland Guardians.

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Guardians, And that makes sense, right they are. They

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<v Speaker 1>have been unbelievably consistent from month to month. Third best

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<v Speaker 1>record in marsh April, third best record in May, not

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<v Speaker 1>quite as good in June, but still the bullpen is

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<v Speaker 1>just so solid. The bullpen just holds and saves so

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<v Speaker 1>many games. You'd be up almost eighteen units betting the

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<v Speaker 1>Guardians every single game this year. The next closest I

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<v Speaker 1>have is Milwaukee and Baltimore, who are twelve units up

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<v Speaker 1>in eleven and a half respectively. So think about that difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a six unit difference between the Guardians

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<v Speaker 1>and the second place team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they've definitely been a better's friend if you I know,

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<v Speaker 3>there was a lot of guys at the network, gill

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<v Speaker 3>for at your network that were high on the Guardians,

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<v Speaker 3>and unfortunately I wasn't one of the guys high on

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<v Speaker 3>the Guardians, so they haven't been friendly to me, but

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<v Speaker 3>for other people they've been they've been super friendly. They

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<v Speaker 3>are the one other team that's for me between the

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<v Speaker 3>Brewers and the Orioles is the Phillies' they're up there.

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<v Speaker 1>To Gill I got okay, So I'm looking at Covers.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about this before we went on air.

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<v Speaker 1>We should sort of pull back the curtain. So for

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<v Speaker 1>many many years when Mark and I did these shows,

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<v Speaker 1>Covers was the source for much of this stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>have not found their data quite as and I love them,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get Don't get me wrong. They've been great to

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<v Speaker 1>us here with these stats, but I have not found

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<v Speaker 1>their their baseball data as reliable in the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, especially with the umps. So I'm getting I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still using Covers now for these macro ones for full

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<v Speaker 1>full season, both money line and run Line, which we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to. But then for the other stuff I'm going elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So just for this is this one is still getting

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<v Speaker 1>from Cover, so I have it it Covers. It's Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen units up, Milwaukee twelve units up, Baltimore eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half units up, then the Yankees, who have just

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<v Speaker 1>completely turned to the bad They're now up almost ten units.

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<v Speaker 1>The Washington Nationals at five, followed by the Phillies and

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<v Speaker 1>the Royals. That's how it is listed. It covers.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's interesting. Yeah, no, no, i'd see it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I use and I want to give these guys

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<v Speaker 3>a shout out because you say, you know the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a good guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, killersports dot com great, great information. As a guy

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<v Speaker 3>who's just delved into this for over twenty years, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got to give props to killersports dot Com. And and

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<v Speaker 3>that's so these are the numbers that I'm using from there,

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<v Speaker 3>and it goes Guardians, Brewers, Phillies Orioles, Nationals, Yankees, Royals. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's how how mine goes well.

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<v Speaker 1>And as part of that is also which which lines

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<v Speaker 1>are you using? Are using a closing line? Whe which

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<v Speaker 1>books are using it? So that that would explain some

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<v Speaker 1>of it too.

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<v Speaker 3>Well exactly exactly if you're risking or got to know,

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<v Speaker 3>oh that's right to win. That could be something else

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<v Speaker 3>that they're doing too, but I think for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>you know they're they're they're pretty close to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Gil, Yeah, No, that's right what you said. If people

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<v Speaker 1>missed what Mark meant there. For the favorites, oftentimes I

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<v Speaker 1>say it's risking more than one hundred to win a hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>but really in this case, it's probably risking one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>to win less than a hundred. So that also makes

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<v Speaker 1>a difference between sites the worst, just in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>this bizarro exercise, if you bet them one hundred bucks

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<v Speaker 1>every time as a dog or as a favorite, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're a dog almost every time, the White Sox, no surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>Good god, I think the surprise is by how much

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<v Speaker 1>though the White Sox would have hemorrhaged you at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you're betting the White Sox every

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<v Speaker 1>single day, something's wrong with you or you're doing this wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I should say something is wrong with you. Probably do

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<v Speaker 1>The White Sox would have you down twenty eight units.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably don't do that. The next worst is the Marlins.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be down half that fourteen units. So the White

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<v Speaker 1>Sox are at this insane pace of hemorrhaging people money.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, I've got I've got them down thirty

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<v Speaker 3>point oh two units, and then the next team seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>The next team seventeen point seven.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've I've kind of have mixed so far for

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<v Speaker 3>the season with my preseason stuff. But the White Socks

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<v Speaker 3>two get have the worst record in baseball. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's gonna cash. I still have them with like an

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<v Speaker 3>eighty three percent chance. Of course, now Marlins team is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty abysmal, and so are the Rockies, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>that I think that White Sox to have the worst

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<v Speaker 3>record in baseball is still looking pretty good here.

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<v Speaker 2>Gil.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and by the way, we do home road splits

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<v Speaker 1>on this, there's not much interesting things here because Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Cleveland's eighteen units most you know, twelve of them,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and a half of them are at home, six

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<v Speaker 1>and a half of them are away. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>the White Sox as the bottom twenty one of those

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<v Speaker 1>are on the road, seven loss at home. So kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what you would expect. I guess, not that there's

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<v Speaker 1>much to read into that. I guess the real headline

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<v Speaker 1>here is Mark, is that typically when we do this exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the Nationals are the interesting one, right. The

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<v Speaker 1>Nationals are thirty nine and forty six, Yet because they

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<v Speaker 1>cash so often as a dog, they found their way

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<v Speaker 1>into the top five or seven, depending you where did

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<v Speaker 1>you have the Nationals in?

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<v Speaker 3>I think they are number five, okay, so we both

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<v Speaker 3>have them at five six, right, so Covers and you

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<v Speaker 3>both have them at five, So the Nationals are the one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what makes us exercise interesting is when you

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<v Speaker 1>see a team that is not so good in the

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<v Speaker 1>real standings. That makes better is a lot of money still,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Nationals are that one exception. But at the bottom, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the the inverse of that would be a really good

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<v Speaker 1>team that loses a lot because they're always favorites, and

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<v Speaker 1>we simply do not have that this year. Right. The

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<v Speaker 1>closest we come to that is the Cubs are the

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<v Speaker 1>sixth worst per Cub.

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<v Speaker 2>Braves are pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 3>The Braves are forty forty six and thirty seven and

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<v Speaker 3>they're minus units.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that. I believe me.

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<v Speaker 3>I know because I've been high on the Braves all year,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's one that I've missed on gil.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. See, Now that's a big discrepancy because Covers haves

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<v Speaker 1>them losing eight units, they're still a they'd still be

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<v Speaker 1>a top ten worst per Cover, So that's a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a difference. But still that is a great example.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess we don't have like, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>one in the bottom five. Let's put it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, as far as the run lines are concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody who's listened to all you know, all these

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<v Speaker 1>q pods in past years, no a de facto power rating.

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<v Speaker 1>As I like to call it again, if you win

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<v Speaker 1>on the run line as a favorite, you are covering

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<v Speaker 1>the one and a half. If you win as a dog,

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<v Speaker 1>oftentimes you lose, but you only lose by one run,

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<v Speaker 1>so you still cash. The number one run line team

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<v Speaker 1>in all of baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Mark I got the Orioles, Gill.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Orioles, the Oriols by quite a bit. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland and the Yankees third, excuse me, second and third.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me. I've got the Yankees at number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, but Cleveland and the Yankees are close. Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>by far right, eighteen and a half units to the positive. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Covers, Cleveland thirteen point sixty five the Yankees

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<v Speaker 1>twelve point six. The worst run line team there is

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<v Speaker 1>there is many worse than the White Sox. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the Marlins are the worst on the run line you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be down seventeen point nine units per covers. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you have?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at the how the Tigers are bad on mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It Covers has them as third worst. They have the

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<v Speaker 1>Marlins worst, cub second worst, Tigers third worst. Interesting, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's so that's the thing. When you get to betting

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<v Speaker 1>lines difference and how you are calculating these as we

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<v Speaker 1>described earlier, then then there does become a difference. But

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<v Speaker 1>we see the we see how there's generally the same

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<v Speaker 1>group of teams. I guess the question for you and

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, because then it gets much more precise

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<v Speaker 1>here after we do this, the question for you is

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<v Speaker 1>which of these teams that are towards the top or

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<v Speaker 1>towards the bottom that might be surprising? Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>is actually a portent of things to come? Like Seattle? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle is a really bad run line team. Like they're good,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, they've they started out really solid. Now

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<v Speaker 1>of course they've come back a bit, but in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the money line, you're still winning a tick of

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<v Speaker 1>money on them in the aggregate, but on the run

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<v Speaker 1>line they stink. They're the fifth worst per Covers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's an interesting look, and I think that they probably,

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<v Speaker 3>just off the top of my head, they probably want

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of one run games right home. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>we're the balls, talk about dead balls. That's where balls

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<v Speaker 3>go to die. Tea Mobile and.

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<v Speaker 2>I gosh, it seems like I don't know you.

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<v Speaker 3>You've always been a big draw parlay guy, but it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like if you're a draw parlay guy, let's let's

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<v Speaker 3>go to Tea Mobile Park in Seattle for the second

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<v Speaker 3>leg of the draw parlay. Seems like those games going

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<v Speaker 3>to extra innings all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Go that and it checks out. On their one run record,

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<v Speaker 1>they are eighteen and nine, the best by percentage. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but they certainly have the most one run wins in

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<v Speaker 1>all of baseball this year, eighteen and nine by percentage.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose that the uh the there's one better than them?

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<v Speaker 1>Where did I see that? Did I see a percent Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>The Rays are actually better percentage wise, they're sixteen and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>But the Mariners eighteen and nine and one run out

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<v Speaker 1>comes this year, including six, six and three in extras.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, in addition to that, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about sustainable, you know that racing might be sustainable.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like for somehow, you know, cash is able to

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<v Speaker 3>cast the one run lines managing that team all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and it seems like that's a pretty consistent thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just off the top of my head.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd have to do the research, but Tampa Bay winning

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<v Speaker 3>one run games is not a surprise to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Gil.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, that's interesting. So the Rays, who are in

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<v Speaker 1>fourth place in the East, only the Blue Jays are worse.

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<v Speaker 1>They're forty three and forty two in the standings as

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<v Speaker 1>of this morning, they're minus fifty two in run differential.

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<v Speaker 1>But because you get the best of that one run

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<v Speaker 1>outcome at sixteen and seven, they are where they are.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, that's everything to their season so Far's.

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<v Speaker 3>They're still there. About the Rays, it's like, yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, and I was high on them to

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<v Speaker 3>begin with. To start the season, I kind of wrote

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<v Speaker 3>them off. But they they're like they're they're kicking around there.

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<v Speaker 3>They couldn't make the playoffs, that's that's something that could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the Rays. By the way, going back to

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about, the Rays, you'd only have lost

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<v Speaker 1>for the full year, you'd only have lost two point

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<v Speaker 1>six units of you Again, the Barzarrow exercise of one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars in all eighty five of their game so far.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the run line, you would be down six

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<v Speaker 1>point three units because again the one run thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>in part of those one run games, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be favorites, so they're not covering. At the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to something because I don't know there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot there. Let me do starting pitchers. This just happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be the stats on you know which starting pitchers

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<v Speaker 1>when they take the hill have happened if you just

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<v Speaker 1>back them every single game. In a bizarre exercise, who's

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<v Speaker 1>made the most money. The Washington Nationals Trevor Williams is

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<v Speaker 1>number one on this. If you had back Trevor Williams

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<v Speaker 1>in every single one of his starts, you'd be up

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<v Speaker 1>eleven point six units. Now where it gets interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>me is the next one. Because this is a Cleveland

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<v Speaker 1>Guardians pitcher that I you know, in my month long

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<v Speaker 1>bets in both March April and in May. March April

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<v Speaker 1>being one month because March just had a few games.

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<v Speaker 1>But you got Tyler Biby as number two, you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>up nine point three units on him. Ranger Suarez of

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<v Speaker 1>the Phillies is fourth in just terms of money. Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>Keller of the Pirates would be fourth in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>money made. Again, just bizarre exercise. If you just back

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<v Speaker 1>these guys blindly and then I expect this one to

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<v Speaker 1>show up. Alec Marsha the Royals would be fifth. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, even more surprising than that is sixth Uh

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<v Speaker 1>when you see Kyle Harrison of the Giants. There Giants

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<v Speaker 1>are ten and four in games that he's pitched. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>just is any of that sustainable? Because to me, the

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<v Speaker 1>Biby thing is interesting because it gets back to the Guardians.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's less about Bibby than it is about

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<v Speaker 1>the bullpen where they're fourteen and three in games he

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<v Speaker 1>started where it's just like, I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>of that is him. He's been good, but the bullpen

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<v Speaker 1>is just so good, just holds everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo.

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<v Speaker 3>I like Bibby. Bobby's like in the top twenty for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's I think he's a nice pitcher. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's not Shane Bieber, but maybe Shane Bieber

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<v Speaker 3>light you know, okay, you got well he said, got

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<v Speaker 3>Bieber and then you got bibby Bybby Byby Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know what just happened. Mark

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<v Speaker 1>might have had a stroke. We'll check on him, Okay, Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>By allusion to baby baby baby oh by justin Bieber

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<v Speaker 3>in case you oh tanner biby byby bybby bybby Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby, how does that go? By Bieber?

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<v Speaker 2>Baby baby baby baby baby?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thought you'd all we've been mine and so like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe maybe with bob he hey baby byby bye bye

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<v Speaker 3>baby Bobby, Oh, don't you know you're the base winner?

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<v Speaker 3>Number nine doesn't have the same ring to it, but

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<v Speaker 3>same idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, we have a drop on a numbers game where

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<v Speaker 1>we had Mark quoting snoop lyrics that we that we

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<v Speaker 1>lay down every time. Could you would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>rehearse that or recite that for everybody real quick? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I have my mind on my money and my

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<v Speaker 2>money on my mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Bark borchard everybody, well done. Okay, This is, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the worst pitcher in baseball in terms of that same exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>if you happen to back them in all their starts

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<v Speaker 1>every single game. Chris Flexen of the White Sox White

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<v Speaker 1>Sox are two and fourteen when he's taking the hill

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be down nine point eight five units. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to give a shout out to the

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<v Speaker 1>number two person, because the number two person got me

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<v Speaker 1>my Astros month long win. On Sunday night, Andrew Heeney

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<v Speaker 1>of the Rangers, the second biggest hemorrhager of all starting

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<v Speaker 1>pitchers in baseball this year in terms of money, actually

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<v Speaker 1>pitched well against the Orioles on Sunday night when I

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<v Speaker 1>needed him to an act of God. Thank you, Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>heeny But there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, one thing I want to say about Heeni

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<v Speaker 3>is I think he's got some good like underlying numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>Like based on past under nine underlying numbers for him,

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<v Speaker 3>he's the base winner number twenty two, so I think

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<v Speaker 3>that he'll move up. You're talking about like a flexing

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<v Speaker 3>is awful. It seems like Flexen is never flexing his

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<v Speaker 3>muscles and he's like, I'm betting against that guy. It

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<v Speaker 3>seems like every time. And but hai hany, I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 3>some regression to the good based on what he's done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his stats are fine, Like I'm looking at his

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<v Speaker 1>fan grafts page. I'm talking about Heini now, his stats

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<v Speaker 1>are completely fine. They're not spectacular, but there's nothing horrible

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<v Speaker 1>about them at all. They're right down the middle. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, you remember that half season where everybody thought

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<v Speaker 1>Flexen was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I bet I personally been an over over

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<v Speaker 3>a game in spring training when he pitched and.

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<v Speaker 2>He was lights out. Yeah, and and like there was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like over nine a game it was like two to one,

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<v Speaker 3>and they he pitched against some other guy that was

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<v Speaker 3>a clown Urania, Jose Urania, And this is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good one to bet over, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of those guys were good and and and

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<v Speaker 3>the other guy that the teams put their put their

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<v Speaker 3>best men out there too, So you know, it just

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<v Speaker 3>goes to show you that.

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<v Speaker 2>On a one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I think that month long bet for you

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<v Speaker 3>is such a good idea when you when you can

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<v Speaker 3>bet them, uh, because it's like, there's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 3>day where you're gonna bet against flex and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go out there, he's going to strike out six and

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to look like he did that day in

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<v Speaker 3>spring training, and you know, just because they're they're major

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<v Speaker 3>league pitchers, they can have that that upside. But so

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<v Speaker 3>far he's he's really shown nothing guilt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the the I just want to say this again

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<v Speaker 1>for the monthly markets because we talked about on radio,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not sure how many people here on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast side. I think it's a pretty high percentage of

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<v Speaker 1>the beating the book listeners that don't listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>radio side of things. So I just want to say

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<v Speaker 1>this about these monthly markets. So in March slash April,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember March had a few games scheduled. Bajor League

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball season started in that month. Draft Kings, william Hill, Caesars,

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<v Speaker 1>and Circa. Those three shops put up the most wins

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<v Speaker 1>in that month. And I happened the day before the

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<v Speaker 1>baseball season. One of the beautiful things about baseball still

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<v Speaker 1>is so many different things you can bet on. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the day before I don't think there was any tennis,

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<v Speaker 1>so I wasn't distracted by handicapping. I just started diving

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<v Speaker 1>into these apps and they had most wins for March April,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, this is awesome because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, baseball seasone hundred and sixty two games, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're gonna if you're not Mark Borchard and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not you know, someone who's fully immersed. Day to day,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna drift. But a and any given day, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>variants can happen, as you say, even Chris Flexing can

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<v Speaker 1>show up. But a month long bet is so great.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had a ball March April, uh famously one

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<v Speaker 1>out away from cashing a sixty five to one on

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<v Speaker 1>the Guardians, where our sole crushed by a home run

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<v Speaker 1>by Victor Carratini, one out a way of the Astros

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<v Speaker 1>that should be noted to beat us Guardians in May,

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<v Speaker 1>I had at sixteen to one. They were two game shy.

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<v Speaker 1>They happened to go two and five against the White

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<v Speaker 1>Sox and Rockies that month, which sunk me. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the Astros at twenty five to one at Caesar, seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>to one at Circa they cash at Circa outright the

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<v Speaker 1>dead heat with the Orioles at William Hill Caesars because

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<v Speaker 1>there's different rules. Dead heat at william Hill. Caesar's tiebreaker

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<v Speaker 1>at Circa is fewest, a fewest losses if you have

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<v Speaker 1>the same amount of wins followed by best run differential.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's just so so great that length. And

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<v Speaker 1>in July we have the Kansas City Royals Kansadity Royals

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<v Speaker 1>started out, you know what, dyl.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so funny that you bring that up, because I

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<v Speaker 3>was I was like, on what plan? So yesterday I

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<v Speaker 3>was looking at and I'm here in Arizona. If in

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<v Speaker 3>case you guys forgot, undisclosed in Arizona. But the odds

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<v Speaker 3>were up at Caesar's for the most wins in July,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Royals were plus seven hundred. They were the favorite,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought, on what planet is this team the favorite?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I vehemently disagree.

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<v Speaker 3>With you on it, but I think the point is

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<v Speaker 3>that we're making it. I think it's the cool bet.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me let me interject. The reason that they're now

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<v Speaker 1>the short shot seven to one is because I said

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<v Speaker 1>it on the show, and so I got them at seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>To one, and hey, and that's that's that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we completely moved it. And it closed at Circuit

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<v Speaker 1>plus six fifty, and it closed at Caesar's at seven

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<v Speaker 1>to one. And even I would tell you, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't bet it at that number, but that's why it

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<v Speaker 1>ended up at that number.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason it's crazy. You know, I was like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the what's my thought?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I ran the simulations, and I'm like, I came

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<v Speaker 3>up with my percentages and I'm like, what plan I go.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder in the back of my mind, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if Gill bet bet the Royals, and I

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<v Speaker 3>meant to ask it that before the show, But since

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<v Speaker 3>you brought it up, I mean, that's that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what happened there, because no planet does the probability

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<v Speaker 3>make sense the way it was priced yesterday at Caesars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's you know, we had tons of people betting

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<v Speaker 1>into it once I sort of announced it on air

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<v Speaker 1>and not sort of, but did announce it on air,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's I guess. When you have the success from

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<v Speaker 1>month to month that we have had, even flirting with

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<v Speaker 1>it even when we were winning, that's gonna happen. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. And the reason behind it, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is not because I think the Kansas City Royals are

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest team that's ever lived, but the schedule is

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<v Speaker 1>so easy, and yeah, like the Astros in June, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a bit of contrarian thinking with this bet

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<v Speaker 1>as well, which is the Astros had the second to

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<v Speaker 1>fewest amount of games scheduled in the month of June,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mets had the fewest. It ended up being a

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<v Speaker 1>Mets Astros series, with the Orioles being the other one.

0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:47.119
<v Speaker 1>The Oriols had the most game scheduled. Those three teams

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<v Speaker 1>ended up vying for the title of June. My reasoning

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<v Speaker 1>again on taking the Royals. Royals have the second fewest

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<v Speaker 1>games in July. Part of my reasoning is at CIRCA,

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<v Speaker 1>the first highbreaker is fewest losses, and it's contrarian thinking

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 1>because you will grab you Normally you would say, wow,

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 1>who has the most game schedule? All the Mets do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's twenty seven even in an All Star week. They

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<v Speaker 1>literally have a game schedule and every every day besides

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<v Speaker 1>the All Star Break the Mets. So the average person

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.320
<v Speaker 1>immediately thinks, well, I got to go to those teams

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<v Speaker 1>to they have more opportunity to win. But with that

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<v Speaker 1>tiebreaker rule at CIRCA, I don't think you should shy

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<v Speaker 1>away from a team with a really easy schedule that

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<v Speaker 1>plays four fewer games because if you can get the wins,

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<v Speaker 1>you will automatically win the tiebreaker. And that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>happened with the Astros. So part of that is betting

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<v Speaker 1>theory as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, but to your point, it's a great bet.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I was fooling around with it yesterday

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:42.479
<v Speaker 3>because what I like to do is I like to

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<v Speaker 3>put like five guys on one like an MVP market

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:48.239
<v Speaker 3>or five guys at a cy young market and kind

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 3>of group them together and you usually can get plus money.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, with that particular bet, there was like I.

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:59.639
<v Speaker 3>Think eight teams that I could Orioles, Braves, Guardians, Twins, Pirates, Cubs,

0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 3>Raised Backs, and Blue Jays. We grouped them together and

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.080
<v Speaker 3>and you know, dutched it the right way. It's plus

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<v Speaker 3>one sixty one. That's a fun bet. You know, that's

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 3>a great bet. So uh, I think that that's something

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of kind of look forward to down the

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<v Speaker 3>down the road there did they still have a twenty

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<v Speaker 3>six point one percent household on them, so they could

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<v Speaker 3>do better, you know, but maybe we'll get some we'll

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 3>get some more competition there, I think down the line.

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<v Speaker 3>But props to these sports books for putting them out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Really cool bet.

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<v Speaker 1>Without a doubt, And I don't want I don't know

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>why DraftKings bowed out after more April, so it's only

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>now it's only circa and William Hill Caesars that have

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<v Speaker 1>done it in May and June and July.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, that's that's so funny though that that that

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<v Speaker 3>that about that royal thing, because.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, did I do that? That's the

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<v Speaker 1>erkle thing? Did I do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is all this?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's go to umpires umpires. Now, this is courtesy

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<v Speaker 1>of vsin dot com. How about that Vegas Stats and

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<v Speaker 1>Information Network with great umpire stats. Now, uh, these are

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<v Speaker 1>the most reliable over umpires thus far this year. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to cross check this with Mark's historical data. So

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<v Speaker 1>when this particular, when these particular folks have been behind

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<v Speaker 1>home plate calling balls and strikes, the overs have hit

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<v Speaker 1>at an unbelievable percentage. The number one over empire thus

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<v Speaker 1>far this year is Andy Fletcher fourteen twelve excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen two and one. Remember you can obviously push on

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<v Speaker 1>an over to total fourteen two and one to the over.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteen out of seventeen have gone over one push. Only

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<v Speaker 1>two have gone under when he was behind home plate.

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Dreckman thirteen and three to the over, Lance Barrett

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and six, Mark Ripperger eleven six and one, and

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Lance Barksdale at ten and eight to the over, so

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<v Speaker 1>Fletcher Dreckman, Barrett Ripperger, and then a tick to the

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<v Speaker 1>over on Barksdale. Any of those match historically.

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<v Speaker 3>Lance Barksdale's number three from a base winner umpire er,

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<v Speaker 3>if you will. And what I do is this is

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 3>this goes back from the first game of twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's taken the twenty twenty two to twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three and then up to date twenty twenty four season,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can actually come up with an e er

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<v Speaker 3>based on walk percentage and strikeout percentage.

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<v Speaker 2>And these guys have a decent sample. I think Barksdale.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about how seventy three games that we're looking

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<v Speaker 3>at and he's and and there's not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>like a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna you know, if the totals nine, he's in

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 3>an umpire the game the total should be eleven. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit less or more subtle than that, but

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<v Speaker 3>still nine percent. He's nine percent from a run expectation

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 3>standpoint based on those strikeout percentage and walk percentage, and

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 3>that makes a difference. So like instead of it's if

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 3>the totals eight instead of eight. It should be eight

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<v Speaker 3>point eight, right, and so it does make a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Barksdale is is a over umpire that my top three

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 3>over guys. I'll give you the top wagner, Alfonso Marquez,

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Barksdale and Carlos Tores are the four from a walk percentage,

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<v Speaker 3>strikeout percentage standpoint that would I would not bet an

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 3>under those guys. Let's just say that I would not

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 3>bet an under if those guys were were were doing

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<v Speaker 3>the game, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's super actionable, right, Like this is super actionable again?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you find your umpire assignments now that stat

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<v Speaker 1>fox is not around? I know I used to.

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<v Speaker 3>Umpire umpire crew used to do it, but for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually have a script that I run every every

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 3>night after you know, and the first base umpire becomes

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 3>the home plate umpire and I put that into my model.

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 3>But uh uh, they it's really tough, like some of

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<v Speaker 3>these sites are, you know, rest in peace, stat Fox

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 3>that was a good site man, talk about two thousand

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 3>and six. Those guys were around in two thousand and six.

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 3>So it's it's kind of sad because for the show

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 3>I was going over there because there's some stuff I

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 3>do for the show at stat Fox, and stat Fox

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<v Speaker 3>is no more so rest in peace, Good job guys,

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<v Speaker 3>and too bad that you're not there.

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<v Speaker 1>Anymore boring out of forty for stat Fox Dr Gangstaline.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you can find reliable umpire assignments, if you're

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>not Mark Borchard and you can find them, it maybe

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>it you know, listen, maybe it takes you off a game,

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I would say, is the best way to do it.

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>If you have like an under on Andy Fletcher behind

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<v Speaker 1>home plate or in the case of the crosscheck we

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>just did. Historically, if you have an under an a

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Lance Barksdale game, maybe you should think twice, is what

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, because and I don't know that we you know,

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>we haven't looked at ballparks with these guys this year.

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>But if Lance Barksdale is historically historically speaking in overump,

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and here he is again as an overump, it's ballpark resistant.

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. His strike zone might be the size

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>of a thimble, and that's why these games are reliably over.

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>On the other side this year to the under minimum

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>seven games behind home plate, let's say Chris Conroy two

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>seven and one, so seven, So basically seven to two

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and one to the under. John Bacon five and two

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to the under, Jim Wolf six and three to the under,

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy ray five and three to the under, Alex Tosi

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>thirteen and four to the under. That's actually the winner.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, DJ Rayburn eleven and four to the under.

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>That's actually second most under. Also Jonathan Para seven and four,

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 1>seven four one to the under. There you go. Oh

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and one more sorry, John Libk eleven and four to

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the under. So actually one, two and three are Alex

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Tosi and then Libka and Rayburn. Any of those historically

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>said something.

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Did you see, say Chris Conroy, Yeah, that was.

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>The first one. I said, seven too and one.

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, yeah, that guy is number three, uh base winner.

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 3>On to the underside. Bill Miller, of course number one,

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 3>and Doug Adding is number.

0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>Two all time. Yeah. Yeah, so Chris Miller just strike

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 2>sounds insane. I was like, I mean, yeah, strike.

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So these guys must have these massive strike zones,

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>right like it's just like, oh, that's two inches off

0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the blade or whatever it is. Eh, they'll call a strike.

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>By the way, your parting words, we never got a

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 1>chance for you to say goodbye to Angel Hernandez. Would

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>you like to say anything?

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad the guy's gone. I mean, that's good, you know,

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 2>it's so great.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>All right? Should we do first fives? And first let's

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>do first fives?

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 2>All right? Sounds good?

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>All right, first fives. Let's see here first fives and

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do these at vsin dot com and Visa

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>dot com corroborates with the other first five site. I see.

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>And again the numbers are going to be slightly off

0:34:30.080 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the profit and loss, because again it

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>depends what are you using. Are you using closing line,

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>opening line? Are you using one? From one sportsbook to another?

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>But here are the top three most profitable first five

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 1>teams in all of baseball this year. On the money line,

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Number one by a mile, the Philadelphia Phillies. You'd be

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>up twenty plus units on the Phillies, And that makes

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 1>sense if you think about their starting pitching. I might

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>be the best top three in all of baseball three

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 1>deep on a team. Phillies are up twenty point six

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>units if you bet them fifty five twenty three and

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>seven is their first five record. Remember seven, you can

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 1>push obviously, in first five, fifty five, twenty three and seven.

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Next closest is the Cleveland Guardians. You'd be up nine

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 1>point one five units on them. They're not even halfway

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:28.480
<v Speaker 1>there to the Phillies, but still great. Baltimore is third,

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>eight point sixty five units to the positive. And here

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 1>is where it gets interesting, and this is why we

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>do this exercise. The fifth place team is the Yankees.

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell me what the fourth place team is?

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's the White Socks, isn't it?

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 1>Yes, which we I believe we talked about in Q one.

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Also right where we're like, this is what makes baseball

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>betting so fascinating A team as crappy and we just

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>talked about them on the money line. They are hemorrhaging money.

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Mark had them thirty units down on the money line

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>in a full game of baseball. They're having the worst

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:03.320
<v Speaker 1>season ever. But if you bet them on the first five,

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>it's the fourth most profitable team. So again, what's the takeaway?

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Their bullpen is hot garbage.

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there's you know, talk about a variety of

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 3>betting that's been available. We have a guy in the show,

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna plug my own show, Gilha. Please the MLB

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 3>show Bet a sponsor by bet Us, every day at

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 3>eight am Pacific. We have a guy that plays something

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 3>called the double result or you know, if you played

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:33.080
<v Speaker 3>in soccer, it's halftime full time and you can actually

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 3>you can actually bet the White Sox first half and

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 3>then to lose the game, which is a nice a

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 3>nice price from a risk versus reward standpoint, a good

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 3>opportunity and just kind of for me, And I'm kind

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 3>of there, like almost, I'm getting there, maybe seventy percent

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 3>of the way to just doing a five inning handicap

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 3>and then a rest of game handicap and then for

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.840
<v Speaker 3>for as far as the presentation on a daily daily basis,

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 3>combining those. But I think that there's a lot to uh,

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 3>the five inning stats. Personally, I think that, uh, you know,

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 3>some guys are that look at the Tampa Bay Rays.

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 3>They're down at the bottom from a from a profit

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 3>standpoint on first five, but they they historically have been

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 3>better in the second half of the game. So I

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 3>think that there's something there. Uh. It takes a lot

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 3>of work to you know, in all in all honesty,

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.280
<v Speaker 3>it takes a lot of work to put those together.

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 3>But I'm getting close skills so, but but I think

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.359
<v Speaker 3>that I think the five inning bet has a lot

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 3>of potential.

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Personally, I'm fascinated by the way. Shame on me for

0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>not plugging your bet Us show at the top. I'm

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>glad you did right there the whiteside that that industry.

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:43.240
<v Speaker 1>What your what your buddy does there where he bets

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 1>White Sox first half and then he fades him second half. Right,

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 1>First of all, how many books is that available in?

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 3>You know it's available where I bet. It's available on

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 3>a lot of books. It's available at bet us. Okay,

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 3>I might as well give them a plug while I'm

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 3>at it. And uh, it's it's where I where I

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 3>bet a couple different outlets where I bet it's available

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 3>so you can get it. And props builder has it too.

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 3>If your book has props Builder, you can bet that.

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 2>It's called a.

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Double result double result.

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 3>It could be sometimes our halftime full time because it

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 3>comes over from the soccer market and it's a cool bet.

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 3>It's a good a good thing to have in your arsenal.

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>And halftime is through five basically in baseball. But you

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>know that White Sox thing. I wonder how many times

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that's hit because again, their record this year in you know,

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 1>your normal newspaper standings in real life, they're twenty four

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and sixty three. They're horrible, twenty four and sixty three.

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:46.839
<v Speaker 1>Their first five record, oh my god, is thirty five,

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>forty one and eleven. So like again, you're winning your

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:54.840
<v Speaker 1>fair share. How many times those have probably hit together?

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm guessing, just off the top of my head,

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be fifteen to twenty times at least, right,

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I'm being conservative, probably

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>more than that, So it's probably, yeah, it's probably more

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>than that. Actually, it's probably who knows, it could be.

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.720
<v Speaker 1>It could be close to thirty times that it's happened anyway,

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what's interesting about that first five. By the way,

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the worst first five teams on the money line, Oakland

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 1>A's are the worst. And now Oklanda's would have cost

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 1>you twenty three units this year betting them first five

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.360
<v Speaker 1>second worst. Can you believe this? The Tampa Bay Rays,

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>God bless, and then they come back and they win

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:37.919
<v Speaker 1>one run games all the time.

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that's why that's the I think that's the

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 3>reason why you should you should have those I think

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 3>you should separate the game and into two halves.

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, it's two different games. Marlin's right behind them third,

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen point eight eight units to the negative Angels, fourth,

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Giants fifth. That doesn't surprise me because of the starting pitching.

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Those are the four were five worst on the money

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 1>line first five. By the way, if you cared on

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the run line first five, this is giving minus a

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:11.879
<v Speaker 1>half a run. The Phillies still Phillies still number one,

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:15.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty four units up, and Cleveland right behind them also

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 1>twenty four units up twenty four point four. Actually, it's

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.399
<v Speaker 1>the Guardians by a tick twenty four point one two

0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:25.680
<v Speaker 1>versus twenty four point zero zero. They are far and away.

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not even close. Who's third, who's third? The third

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:33.839
<v Speaker 1>place team hasn't even won. Oh no, Nationals are third.

0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 1>On the run line, Nationals would have you up nine units.

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Nationals and the Royals on the run line. I don't

0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>know who's betting run line first five, but some people

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:44.399
<v Speaker 1>are reliably. But if you did it every game, those

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>are the Exercises and the Phillies and the Guardians are

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:51.919
<v Speaker 1>blowing away the competition the worst. No surprise, the Marlins,

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>followed by the angels followed by the twins. All of

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>those it would have cost you thirty units. Please don't

0:40:58.800 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>do that.

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 3>And then you're you're getting those stats just to just

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 3>to control. You're getting them from from Vson, from Visa visent,

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 3>let's plug Vison dot com.

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 2>All we're at it.

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I got the I mentioned it that the umpires I'm

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>getting from Vson now and the first five I'm getting

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.200
<v Speaker 1>from Vson now. I get the first five from somewhere

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.919
<v Speaker 1>else too, but also from vson dot com.

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I wanted to complete this thought here.

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they So the White Socks, believe it or not,

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 3>they've been ahead in thirty four games after five innings.

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 3>They've lost sixteen of those. Half of the games they live.

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.800
<v Speaker 1>So the answer sixteen. The answer is sixteen.

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so sixteen White Sox opponent like that, that bet

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 3>plays a lot better than than two or even money,

0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:45.439
<v Speaker 3>that's for sure.

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 2>So that's that might be an idea for everybody, right.

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>So give me an idea. So, so those sixteen times,

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>what would you say the average price that you probably

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 1>got on that to hit, it's got to be like

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>a huge plus money.

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 3>It's like six hundred and seven yeah, yeah, yeah, I

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 3>mean it's they're the team. Opposite team usually is right

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 3>right about plus six hundred to eight hundred.

0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>So's so so let's just be conservative and call it

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>six to one. Let's not let's be right in the middle.

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's say it's seven to one sixteen times. Good god,

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's that quick math? That's uh, that's ninety

0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:26.720
<v Speaker 1>six that's what one hundred and twelve units? Yeah, good god?

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Pretty crazy.

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 1>By the way, how many people do you think listening

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to this podcast, that's the only thing they're going to

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:34.719
<v Speaker 1>bet after this? That's all. They're like White Sox verse

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:37.359
<v Speaker 1>five White Sox to lose double what is it called

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 1>double result?

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 2>It's not a bad idea with that team.

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 3>That team's that bullpen has been They've been the worst

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 3>bullpen by my ratings the whole season. I don't know

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 3>if they've ever gotten out of the cellar.

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>So that's incredible. That is that's an interesting thing. All right,

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>should we do first first innings? Let's close it out

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 1>with first innings. This is proprietary. This I if people

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted to find this, I wouldn't even know where to

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>point them, would you.

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know if you're looking.

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 3>I think you do you do picture wOBA in the

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 3>first inning.

0:43:10.400 --> 0:43:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing. Yeah, what I'm doing is picture oppose. Yeah,

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>the pictures opposing on base percentage. So what the batters

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>are doing against the picture?

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Obp yeah yeah, no, no.

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 2>You you know.

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 3>One of the things with fangraps is they have a

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:26.919
<v Speaker 3>thing called split leader boards, and you can go there

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 3>and just just filter it down for first inning.

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I didn't even know they had that.

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty much all you have to do, you know.

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 3>You you show all filters first inning and then run

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 3>it and it's it's it's pretty cool.

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a it's a good, good source.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So I did minimum fifty plate appearances here

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>against the absolute worst picture in the first inning this

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>year is Joe Musgrove for ninety yeah four nine on

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<v Speaker 1>base against.

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<v Speaker 2>You went fifty plays appearances.

0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I did go fifty. Should I go more?

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 3>Now there's a guy that has forty two Seeksto Sanchez.

0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to throw him out there. I love

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 3>the man sixty he's at five thirty seven.

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, at fifty. I've got Joe Muskgrove the

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<v Speaker 1>worst at four ninety one against Austin Gomber for fifty

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>two against Hunter Brown, four thirty eight against Keaton Win

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>of the Giants, four thirty three against then Charlie Morton

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 1>four to oh eight against Casey Myz, Griffin, Canning and

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Randy Vasquez the only others north of four hundred on

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:34.720
<v Speaker 1>base against.

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.359
<v Speaker 3>There's one in there with with he's got what does

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 3>he got? Forty one total batter's face Walker Buehler for

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 3>sixty three OBP in the first inning. So wow, I get,

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 3>I get it's kind of fine to Bethos Dodger game

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 3>first innings. I admit that I've done that before, but I.

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Don't know if that you know.

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 3>The thing is, it's like these are stats, like you

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 3>always make the disclaimer these are descriptive stats, and is

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 3>it predictive moving forward? But I think, I mean, from

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 3>a complexity standpoint, it would probably be better to what

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 3>is their lifetime average in the first inning, because I

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 3>think that there is some something to that.

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Gil.

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 3>I do think that there's something to you know, guys

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 3>get off to a bad start and then they kind

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 3>of settle in. But like that would be a little

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 3>bit more complex. I think could do from a predictive standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I should say, you know, I used to

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 1>bet first innings yes no, for years and years and years,

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:34.399
<v Speaker 1>bet them very profitably. I have not in the last

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:35.920
<v Speaker 1>two or three years. And I am told that if

0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I had continued to do to do what I was doing,

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 1>then it wouldn't be nearly as profitable. Jason Winingarten and

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I talk about this because I would bet, you know,

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 1>when two aces would face each other, I would bet

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 1>yes runs to score, and that we would get like

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 1>plus one fifty five on it sometimes right when two

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>aces were facing each other, and it used to be

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>super profitable. You're still getting the same numbers, Jason is

0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 1>telling me. But it's just not coming home nearly as much.

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 1>But I just want to make the disclaimer, this is

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 1>not how we bet them. We didn't. We didn't look

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>at these picture numbers and say, oh, well, just because

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>this guy is that, we're gonna bet this. But for

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people it is still fascinating. I just

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>want to point out the pictures the contrary of that,

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:16.399
<v Speaker 1>the kind of the converse of that, which is, these

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>are the pictures that do the best in the first

0:46:18.200 --> 0:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>inning in terms of on base against and he guesses

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 1>as to who is the best picture in all of

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 1>baseball on base against. It's a theme that we have

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>going that we just talked about.

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Arret Crochet one forty three, Garrett.

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<v Speaker 1>Croche one forty three. Bang, it's amazing it. Dude is

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.399
<v Speaker 1>unhittable the first what are you thinking?

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Did you have this guy?

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 3>You have Chris flex I talked about amazing. Chris Flexen

0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 3>at one eighty three is fourth. Crazy, Chris Flexen is fourth.

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 3>So the dude that is hemorrhaged. And again, you know

0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 3>it's not his fault right now, all it's not all

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 3>his fault that his team sucks all around him. So

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.960
<v Speaker 3>he's the biggest hemorrhae of all starting pitchers. If you

0:47:02.000 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 3>bet in Bizarro every single game he started this year,

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 3>you'd have lost the most money more than any other

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 3>pitcher doing that same exercise with And yet he's the

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:13.160
<v Speaker 3>fourth best first inning pitcher in all of baseball.

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Glass now is second to Garrett Crochet, Aaron Nola third,

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>then Flexen, followed by Raynaldo Lopez. Man. The Mariners have

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:27.280
<v Speaker 1>some great starters, Zach Wheeler, Michael Waka Tanner. How Tanner,

0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Biby Mike Michael King and showed a Immanaga closing out

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>the uh the top group. Pretty amazing.

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm still trying to figure out how Flexen, you know,

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 3>and looking like like OBP like second inning through fifth,

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 3>and he's not. He's you think that the guy would

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 3>be totally horrible. He'd be the you know, and at

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:53.800
<v Speaker 3>least the thirtieth worst pictures from an OBP pe standpoint

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 3>in those innings, and he's not there either.

0:47:55.719 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's interesting because the deal with that guy. Well, so,

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>but that checks out right, the fact that Flexen and

0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Crochet are there checks out with our first five stuff,

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 1>which is okay, well, there's an inning where nothing happens

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 1>when those two guys are on, right, you're putting up

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:18.040
<v Speaker 1>a zero basically. So now you're down to four innings

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:19.800
<v Speaker 1>where you're going to try to beat the White Sox

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.800
<v Speaker 1>first five. So it just it just becomes a numbers

0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:24.239
<v Speaker 1>game like that. So again, all this stuff is just

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:29.440
<v Speaker 1>for you and me anyway, And I believe all the nerdis,

0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the nerd hard o baseball guys listening to

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the Show and Girls, that kind of stuff is fascinating

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 1>and really can translate like that white Sox thing. You know,

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 1>we talk about the ultimate sustainable and non sustainable. That

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>actually seems sustainable to me. That they will continue to

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 1>be good in the first five and they will continue

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 1>to suck thereafter.

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, No, it's not a bad thought because offensively

0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.760
<v Speaker 3>they're challenged and bullpen wise they're challenged.

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:58.919
<v Speaker 2>So it's really not a bad look. I don't think.

0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, always interesting, Mark.

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh, if you want to talk, if you want to talk, bizarre.

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 3>World, if that's all you did this year, you you

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:10.400
<v Speaker 3>could you could still bet it and be profitable at

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 3>the end of the season if you lost every game

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:13.399
<v Speaker 3>from from here on out.

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.840
<v Speaker 1>So oh, I know. Oh if you if you had

0:49:15.880 --> 0:49:18.359
<v Speaker 1>been betting it all year and you lost every time

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>from now on, you'd still be profitable.

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.399
<v Speaker 2>That's right, I think? So yeah, I do, right.

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Because you'd only lose what would we decided it was

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:27.120
<v Speaker 1>what one hundred and twelve? Yeah, you'd only lose like

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:28.720
<v Speaker 1>seventy five eighty more times.

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't think. Yeah, that's about it. That's about it.

0:49:32.680 --> 0:49:37.800
<v Speaker 1>There you go, Wow, that is that is very interesting.

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:42.799
<v Speaker 1>Besides that, what's the single biggest takeaway the Umps those

0:49:42.880 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>ump names that we said Lance Barksdale on the over

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and then Conroy on the under.

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that if you guys played Bill Miller and

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 3>over when Bill Miller's.

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 2>The umpire, you're just you're just massa kiss. Don't do it.

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Just just don't do it. No, I think that I

0:49:57.680 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 2>think what we can take.

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 3>From from the shows is that there's there's a lot

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.960
<v Speaker 3>of different things that you have to do to be

0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 3>effective at handicapping baseball.

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 2>So I think, for for for me, gil uh.

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 3>And one of the beauties, I think that that what

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 3>you're doing is you're saying, Okay, well, I can't be

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 3>everything on this. I can't handicap it the way and

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 3>and you can't because you have so many responsibilities the

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:24.920
<v Speaker 3>voice of sports betting for for Vison, that's a hell

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 3>of a responsibility. So so but you've you've said, hey,

0:50:28.280 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 3>this is something that I enjoy, this is something that

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 3>obviously you're good at. You're you're you're knocking on you

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:34.839
<v Speaker 3>won one last month and you're knocking on the door

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 3>the other two months. So that would be my takeaway

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.799
<v Speaker 3>is find something that you love, find something that you enjoy,

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:41.840
<v Speaker 3>and just handicap the.

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Hell out of it and be really good at it.

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 3>I'll pay you money and and call me because I'll

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:46.799
<v Speaker 3>be if you're really good at something, I'll pay you

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:48.240
<v Speaker 3>to to get your picks.

0:50:48.280 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>There you go look at that, and I will absolutely

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:55.239
<v Speaker 1>root out reach out rather to Carl Sack. You mentioned

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Killer Sports Carl Sack, who is a good friend. Carl

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and I. I used to work with Doctor Bob. I

0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:04.040
<v Speaker 1>would do baseball for Doctor Bob. Carl would do the

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 1>NBA as NBA Guru for Doctor Bob. I had a

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:13.040
<v Speaker 1>couple great MLB seasons, but I also had a couple

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 1>sideways ones. He never had a bad season in basketball.

0:51:17.440 --> 0:51:20.360
<v Speaker 1>He was a totals better. It still is a totals

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 1>better in the NBA, the best I've ever seen. He

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>moves markets when he releases his picks. And now he

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:28.880
<v Speaker 1>is doing this killer sports site. So I will absolutely

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.200
<v Speaker 1>get your number to Carl and you guys hook up

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 1>because you two should know each other. And nice of

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you to give him a shout out because that site

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:37.120
<v Speaker 1>is very Yeah.

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, you know what I've learning this thing.

0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:40.759
<v Speaker 3>You know, when you first get into this industry, you're

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:43.880
<v Speaker 3>they're kind of a little defensive and admittedly, I you

0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 3>know somebody that's good, You're like, oh, I'm better than

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 3>he is, you know, But as you get older and

0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:50.879
<v Speaker 3>you age, you really appreciate the beauty of the way

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 3>other people handicap and the site is gorgeous. The database,

0:51:55.000 --> 0:51:57.840
<v Speaker 3>I know what, all the stuff that's behind that, it's

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 3>just wonderful and so like like, yeah, I mean if

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:02.799
<v Speaker 3>if he reaches out to me, it'll it'll be a

0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:03.719
<v Speaker 3>happy day for me, Gil.

0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Man, And that's how you and I have not

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to not to make this corny at the end, but

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 1>that's how you and I first connected. We were the

0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:12.080
<v Speaker 1>only two normal human beings and where we were right,

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:12.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's something.

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of defensiveness,

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm better than you and stuff and this, yeah, exactly,

0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's it's too bad too, because I think

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 3>that people worked a little bit better collectively. And we're

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 3>all competitive and sometimes we're stubborn, but I think if

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:30.800
<v Speaker 3>people work together we could we could.

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Be so much better. But anyway else, my philosophy for the.

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Day that is that extends beyond sports betting, right, like

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 1>if they if you ever see these things on like

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.320
<v Speaker 1>TikTok or Instagram or whatever. And every once in a

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:43.600
<v Speaker 1>while you'll run into this thing. We asked, you know,

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:46.320
<v Speaker 1>thirty old people or fifty old people, what's the biggest

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 1>piece of advice they could dispense to young people and

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:52.919
<v Speaker 1>to a man and woman that advice. As always, when

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I was younger, I stressed and cared and spent way

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:03.359
<v Speaker 1>too much energy on so many meaningless things. And that

0:53:03.440 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 1>what you just described, right like this, the animosity that

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 1>sports betters tend to have with others is just top

0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:12.839
<v Speaker 1>of list in our little corner of the world, right

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:15.600
<v Speaker 1>like that would be the advice. Just like it's so stupid,

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it's so pointless. So anyway, exactly a bit of advice,

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:21.720
<v Speaker 1>a bit of sage wisdom that's redundant.

0:53:21.760 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 3>I think we're getting we're getting to that point where

0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:26.520
<v Speaker 3>it is I think you know what you know to

0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 3>be serious as you age, you realize, you know, guy,

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of an asshole back then, and uh

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:35.760
<v Speaker 3>and and not that I ever was a complete jerk,

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, because because we got along all the time.

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 3>But I think that that really being self aware and

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:44.600
<v Speaker 3>being like, hey, you know, I maybe I'm not the

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:46.520
<v Speaker 3>best guy. You know, maybe I'm just I'm the twelfth

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 3>best guy. Maybe there's twelve guys that are better than me.

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I want to learn from them, you know.

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 2>And I think that I.

0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Think that there's always an opportunity to learn from somebody,

0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 3>even if they're doing things differently than you.

0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Go. I think that you were never an asshole, by

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:02.439
<v Speaker 1>the way, appreciate that. Yeah, I don't remember you ever

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 1>being that. I really don't think you've.

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:05.879
<v Speaker 2>Never been an asshole. Leader.

0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I love you, And my wife loves you too, and

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:10.160
<v Speaker 3>and and she's she's kind of a she's kind of

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:12.439
<v Speaker 3>a hard judge of character, but she's like, oh, yeah, Gil,

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 3>he's he's great.

0:54:13.239 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 2>I love Gil.

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.800
<v Speaker 1>So thank you so much, thank you, Thank you so much, Lisa.

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Uh, Mark enjoy. I really appreciate doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>We will meet again for Q three. We'll do all

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<v Speaker 1>the radio stuff stuff in between. Enjoy your Fourth of July.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, we're gonna have a hot dog contest on the

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<v Speaker 3>show tomorrow. I think we're gonna all we're gonna eat

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<v Speaker 3>hot dogs on the show. So it'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Might be our last Fourth of July as a democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>As a democracy, Mark, so enjoy it eating hot dogs

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<v Speaker 1>and hamburgers.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, in all seriousness.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna plug another one because we had a

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<v Speaker 3>hot dogg Eating Show betting contest. Bet Us has lines

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<v Speaker 3>on the Hot dogg Eating Show. We were twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>and three on last year's show. I can't I can't

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<v Speaker 3>promise that. I can't promise that this year. But the

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<v Speaker 3>show in itself is pretty cool. We talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>different betting markets for the Hot dog Eating Contest and

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's a fun show.

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<v Speaker 1>So know Joey Chestnut this year, so it must be

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<v Speaker 1>that would mean there's more opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Right Esper, Wherry and web are the are the three

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<v Speaker 3>favorites and there yeah, there's there was a there's three

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<v Speaker 3>guys on the on the show and we all had

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<v Speaker 3>a different, different choice on who's gonna win. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it made it handicapping a little bit different for this season,

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<v Speaker 3>for this for this year year's.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot Dog Eating Contest.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you watch it? It's kind of disgusting to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Oh, absolutely, especially you know when you when you

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<v Speaker 3>when you're leveraged on it, when you have a little

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<v Speaker 3>little action on you, you watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Mark, thank you, as always at base Winner,

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<v Speaker 1>baswinner dot com, the bet Us Show. Where can people

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<v Speaker 1>find that?

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<v Speaker 3>Just go to YouTube, bet us MLB and and we

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<v Speaker 3>will be there and we will be there every day

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<v Speaker 3>at eight am.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, hopefully there was food for thought. I know

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<v Speaker 1>there was plenty of That white sox thing is great.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening, Enjoy your July fourth, Good luck with

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<v Speaker 1>all your bet