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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre,

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Wednesday, November twentieth. Oh boy, oh boy,

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Speaker 2: do we got a good show today for you? Oh

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Speaker 2: my goodness. Obviously the Jets, because yesterday was Tuesday. Something happened.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that later, but we got to start

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Speaker 2: with college football. They just announced the twelve team playoff update,

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Speaker 2: and I think we're gonna have a guest on tomorrow

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Speaker 2: to dive deep into it. I'll just give you the overview.

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Speaker 2: Oregon is still number one after the narrow win over Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Texas is too, although there's a lot of negativity toward

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Speaker 2: the Longhorns. They don't have any good wins. They got

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Speaker 2: stomped out in their toughest game against Georgia at home.

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Speaker 2: Number three is Miami and number four is Boise State.

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Speaker 2: I think many would agree that Ohio State, which is

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Speaker 2: at five because it lost to Oregon, is probably the

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Speaker 2: best or second best team in the country. Again, on

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Speaker 2: a neutral field, Ohio State would be favored over Oregon.

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Speaker 2: Ohio State was favored in Oregon. Obviously. I know gambling

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Speaker 2: lines don't determined games but that's where we are with that.

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Speaker 2: Checking in At six's Penn State, which does not have

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Speaker 2: a great win. Ohio State would play number twelve BYU

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Speaker 2: in Columbus. Now note the locations of these first round

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Speaker 2: games in Columbus, Ohio. That would be in December. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so we're looking on like twenty degrees. Penn State as

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Speaker 2: the sixth seed would host Georgia in State College. That's

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Speaker 2: another twenty degree kind of game outdoors freezing in December.

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Speaker 2: Then at seven you have Indiana, which is kind of temporary,

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Speaker 2: right They got the big game against Ohio State this weekend.

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Speaker 2: They are thirteen point dogs in that one. Yeah, tough one.

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Speaker 2: So currently Indiana would host Ole Miss in Bloomington, Bloomington,

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Speaker 2: Indiana in dece Yeah, I'm gonna go with cold you

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Speaker 2: said thinkings trend here. And then eight would be Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame hosting Alabama in South Bend. And yes, South Bend

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Speaker 2: will be chilly in December. So we got four games

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Speaker 2: in the north cold weather December. None of this dome action,

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Speaker 2: none of this West Coast war weather stuff. I don't

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Speaker 2: mind watching those games. I just know, just like Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Baltimore in the NFL this past weekend, cold game outside

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Speaker 2: slobbery knocker. And then you go to Sunday Night football

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Speaker 2: Bengals Chargers indoors West Coast High scoring thirty four to

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Speaker 2: twenty seven thriller. Both games were close, but and listen,

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Speaker 2: I know there's a large segment of football population who

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Speaker 2: loves these tough, cold weather games where defense reigns. But

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Speaker 2: they're fine, sure, give me offense. Please give me war

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Speaker 2: weather offense, no elements. That's what I want for my

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Speaker 2: big games, right. I much prefer easy on the eyes, scoring,

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Speaker 2: fun excitement. I know I like defense too. List to

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Speaker 2: trust me in men's basketball, and yes, I kind of

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Speaker 2: got to mention the men's basketball team in every podcast.

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Speaker 2: I consider myself a defensive guy. I can no longer

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Speaker 2: guard ones, but I could try to guard toos or

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Speaker 2: I could guard ones for brief moments. But yeah, defense

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Speaker 2: is like that's one of my calling cards, defensive shooting.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I get it. Defense matters. But for a viewer,

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Speaker 2: give me offense indoors. Anyways, I don't have much objection.

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Speaker 2: Much will be sorted out this weekend with Indiana, Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Texas is going anywhere. Tennessee and SMU

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Speaker 2: are the last two out.

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Speaker 2: Now let's move to the NBA. So for starters, we'll

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Speaker 2: go with Celtics Calves. The Calves were fifteen or oh.

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Speaker 2: They go to Boston, they lose, but cover thanks to

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Speaker 2: a huge third quarter comeback. Celtics won twenty calves one

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Speaker 2: Boston dropped twenty two to three pointers twenty two. Jason

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Speaker 2: Tatum hit six. He had thirty three, twelve and seven.

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Speaker 2: I mean Jason Tatum right now, and I know who

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Speaker 2: cares fourteen to fifteen games in Jason Tatum's the MVP

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Speaker 2: elite nicoloogicch has been great. Tatum's your MVP early Okay,

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Speaker 2: He's been tremendous. You know, Tatum's my guy. I'm a

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Speaker 2: game to pize some money whatever. But the big story

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Speaker 2: is usually in the NBA what happens off the court.

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Speaker 2: So after what was it on Monday night? So the

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Speaker 2: the loss to Miami where Joel Embiid did not play okay,

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Speaker 2: that loss, Kyle Lowry called for a team meeting, right

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Speaker 2: and the team got together. Everybody was in the room

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Speaker 2: and there was some calling out. The biggest call out

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Speaker 2: I think I told the Darryl Mory story. So when

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Speaker 2: I'm you guys, don't me. I'm gonna call people out

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Speaker 2: I've never really understood Maury's I gotta have a superstar,

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Speaker 2: I again, it is a wacky situation. I give major

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Speaker 2: so it's like, I mean, Joel Embiid, he's on knee

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Speaker 2: injury management, Okay. He then shoves a reporter who writes

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Speaker 2: George is banged up. Now Maxie's banged up. I mean, folks,

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of watching him play a slow motion car

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Speaker 2: crash is what it feels like in Philly, And listen,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be like some kind of mister

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Speaker 2: negative where it's like, oh, Jason, all you do it's negativity.

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Speaker 2: there's no easy fix here. And obviously people are starting

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Speaker 2: to speculate, Oh yeah, just trade em Bead for Giannis, Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't care how good he is. He's damaged goods.

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Speaker 2: I'm just so sick of talking about the Jets. I'm

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Speaker 2: So Woody Johnson says to everybody, we got a bench

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Speaker 2: Their families were close. Woody Johnson made Joe Douglass fire.

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Speaker 2: like when everybody rejects them. This idea that your owners

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Speaker 2: not how things work. The owner hires people to call

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Speaker 2: the shots. Okay, And I could reference the soccer team.

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Speaker 2: I think I've told the story multiple times. The soccer

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Speaker 2: Joe Douglas. When you get called into a meeting and

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Speaker 2: You're not a football guy. Let the people you hired

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Speaker 2: at the behest of Woody Johnson. How is the owner

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Speaker 2: The problem is who's running this is just gonna be

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Speaker 2: Woody has seen his buddy Trump gain power and just

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Speaker 2: do things unilaterally. I'm creating this new task force. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna pick Elon and I'm gonna pick Vivek, and they're gonna,

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Speaker 2: I just wonder if he's seeing that and he's operating

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Speaker 2: Johnson will step aside. You do whatever you want. If

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Speaker 2: To quote the Athletic Rogers is fond of both Douglas

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Speaker 2: and it's believed Johnson won't want him back anyway. My gosh,

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Speaker 2: what an embarrassment. Where do we go from here? Guys?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but Mike Rabel want the job? Would he?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean his idea, like, let's go

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Speaker 2: coming to this dumpster fire? What does he know about

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Speaker 2: him much longer, because you know, for the next month

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Speaker 2: and a half they're going to be irrelevant. Anyways, that's

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Speaker 2: all for today. I'll try not to get as fired

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Speaker 2: up tomorrow, although tomorrow's guest is a Jets fan too.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you then,