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Speaker 1: Good morning, swereld and welcome to the No Dougs Podcast

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Speaker 1: always here, We're not gonna get to every game, but

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Speaker 1: out tasses what you need to know. Really fun one

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Speaker 1: this morning, JD and Task turning it into the National

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Speaker 1: Geographic Channel for a second. That geo there. You gotta

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Speaker 1: Or you can fire up the Athletics Daily Ding podcast

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Speaker 1: to and maybe they touched on some of the games

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Speaker 1: and the three point contest. It sounds like this is happening.

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Speaker 1: I think Woes is like tweeting right now, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then Lee, I think I hope you've got another

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Speaker 1: Bradley Beald trade for us, even though right now Fred

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we shipped him out. We're getting picks back in return,

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Speaker 5: the Clippers desperately want of Paul George. Right now, Bradley

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Speaker 2: So you know, not.

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Speaker 5: Every single trade is going to be a three first

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's all skits.

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Speaker 4: We went through another twenty trade from I was going

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Speaker 4: to see my Wi Fi Crabbry team have come back,

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Speaker 4: and you're still talking about Bill, Like, what the hell's

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Speaker 1: Did you actually do your trade offer for today show?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we will get to it later in this show,

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Speaker 1: so you can anger more people. All right? Five games though,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, little GT little game talk. First, skeet standard Lakers

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Speaker 4: court Side Karen is the big story. Courtside Karen, what

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Speaker 4: Lebron was asked, oh, well, my guy tonight. I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Every objected straight up for an overboard because Lebron, it

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Speaker 4: sounds like didn't think these people deserve to be kicked out.

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 4: Don't trash talk Lebron in the fourth quarter if you

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Speaker 1: Crazy stuff, crazy stuff. There's an investigation. Now.

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Speaker 4: These fans are probably just going to be told you're

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Speaker 4: it's just a bad look. You know, there's not very

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Speaker 4: This was a problem for the Hawks, and now they're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think, lea like Trey said, Lebron

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Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty five year old court side Karen two twenty

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Speaker 2: Now, the thing is Lebron can't.

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Speaker 5: Win in this situation because if they're heckling him and

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Speaker 5: and it's like, if you're going to sit there and

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Speaker 5: then that just makes you into a bigger loser than

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Speaker 2: Old steroid ass. I mean that's perfect.

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Speaker 5: That's just perfect because we saw him and he looks

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Speaker 5: So Lebron wins, the game, owns the clown and they

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Speaker 1: They steroid ass.

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Speaker 2: That was in response.

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Speaker 5: That was in response to you know what, you know,

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Speaker 5: So yeah, you know they started heckling. Lebron just destroyed

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Speaker 5: it's a bad look for it's a bad look for

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's just another flex for him, Well done

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Trey's sort of right. It's sort of

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Speaker 1: But instead, you know, we're talking about with this court

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Speaker 1: side Karen, which is an incredible nickname. But did Lebron

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Speaker 2: Was it too pretty early?

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Speaker 4: Yeah all right, I mean, yeah, he's online sometimes. I

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Speaker 4: don't know about you guys, but we're sitting around a lot,

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Speaker 4: My ass is kind of hurting I'm thinking about getting

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Speaker 4: it's a problem here.

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Speaker 1: It's not a bad idea. You know, you get some

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Speaker 1: I need it more than you do. I know that.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going here. Nothing else to

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Speaker 1: add to them. Again, they're fifteen minutes of famous basically

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there were two big comebacks last night. Pauzingis made

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Speaker 5: and it looked like the MAVs had done enough to

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Speaker 5: Then Luca nearly actually pulled off the miracle game winner

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Speaker 1: It was sort of close.

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Speaker 5: He got a very very good look at that. So

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Speaker 5: it rimmed out, but tough loss here for the Mavericks.

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Speaker 5: But really, Chris Paul, this was a throwback Chris Paul game.

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Speaker 2: Was crazy.

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Speaker 5: He clown Pauzingis a few times defensively. Now you know

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Speaker 5: that's not a knock on poorsingers. Chris Paul's done that

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Speaker 5: important win here for the Suns. I will say, you know,

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Speaker 5: I know it's only one game, it's just one game,

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Speaker 2: And again Books just coming back.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty special in the second half.

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Speaker 5: In the second half he was yeah, yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 5: important there. Frank Ka Minsky actually gave him some decent

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Speaker 2: In a while.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, the playoffs are absolutely in play

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Speaker 5: it's like, you know, they made the wrong decision.

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Speaker 2: So that's just the way it goes sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was really cool. I was watching

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Speaker 1: or whatever. It's a cool little design play. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it was executed perfectly. I'm talking about the suns,

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Speaker 1: you know, sort of some loose picks and you know

436
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Speaker 1: it could be a little tighter and created a little

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Speaker 1: more room. But Booker doesn't need a ton and I

438
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Speaker 1: was a hell of its shot. I mean, a very

439
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Speaker 1: very tough shot. We know he can hit that. He

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Speaker 1: just stepped into it. And then, like you said, Luca

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Speaker 1: had a chance like a bit of a prayer twenty

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Speaker 1: seven footer that nearly drop. But I wonder with the

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Speaker 1: Maverick they sort of have their team back now, Lee,

444
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Speaker 1: like everybody is sort of back. Richardson had a good game.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'd been questioning him. He hadn't hit a

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Speaker 1: three pointer in like three games, but he played a

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Speaker 1: better game. I thought last night.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Now they'll get a couple of games, like I feel here,

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks will with their full squad, let's call it that.

451
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Speaker 1: And then if they continue to lose, though, I wonder

452
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Speaker 1: if they press the panic button a little bit, Trey

453
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Speaker 1: and try and salvage the season, because I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: still in it. You know, they're not out of any

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Speaker 1: playoff race or anything like that. But if they have

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Speaker 1: their full team back here, and they continue to rack

457
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Speaker 1: up these losses, will they be active here in trying

458
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Speaker 1: to make a move, you know, in the coming month.

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Speaker 1: I think that would be in play for you know,

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Speaker 1: a team obviously with Cuban as your owner, and a

461
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Speaker 1: team with high hopes with star players in Luca and KP, like,

462
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Speaker 1: you don't want to not make the playoffs with these guys, like,

463
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Speaker 1: especially after making it. So I think it's something to watch.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see them now with their full squad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're the Mavericks, you're just hoping that you're

466
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Speaker 4: not the worst shooting team for the entire season. They're

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Speaker 4: thirtieth and three point percentage right now, they're shooting just

468
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Speaker 4: the shade below thirty three percent, which is pretty bad,

469
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Speaker 4: quite honestly for a team that's supposed to be a

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Speaker 4: great offensive team. If that turns around instantly, you're getting

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Speaker 4: into the top half of US as an offensive team,

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Speaker 4: and then you're back to kind of where the Mavericks

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Speaker 4: were last season. That's exactly how they played, trying to

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Speaker 4: outscore teams, and it makes it a little easier for

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Speaker 4: Luca if people are hitting from the outside, because right now,

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Speaker 4: like Leah said, they're just forming a wall saying, try

477
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Speaker 4: and finish around us, over us, and we're going to

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Speaker 4: live with your three point shooters missing. And it's working

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Speaker 4: so far for the opponents of the Mavericks. But definitely

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Speaker 4: I agree that the MAVs are going to want to

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Speaker 4: keep pushing towards the playoffs, not only just because Luka

482
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Speaker 4: Doncic is in his prime and you want to put

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Speaker 4: a winner around a star player, but they also lose

484
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Speaker 4: their draft pick to the Knicks for the Porzingis trade

485
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Speaker 4: this coming off season, so they don't want it to

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Speaker 4: get into the lottery. They don't want to take a

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Speaker 4: chance that they have a one point eight percent chance

488
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Speaker 4: and suddenly they are losing the number one draft picked

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Speaker 4: alongside look at doncas That could be a disaster of

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Speaker 4: the utmost order, But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what they do.

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Speaker 4: It definitely feels like the MAVs are active a lot

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Speaker 4: during the trade deadline, so I imagine they'll start to make

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Speaker 4: a move, especially if they keep shooting as poorly as

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Speaker 4: I have. I can't I can't imagine it's gonna stay

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Speaker 4: like that for the entire season for the Mavericks. They've

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Speaker 4: got too many players who have a track record of

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Speaker 4: actually making shots, and they did it last year. So

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Speaker 4: it's just a matter of getting your feet under you

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Speaker 4: and hopefully being able to stay on the court and

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Speaker 4: turn it around a little bit.

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Speaker 1: All right, our next game, Dearren Fox's fourth quarter elpers

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Speaker 1: lead the Kings past Pelicans one eighteen, one oh nine. Again,

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Speaker 1: gotta go check out what you need to know for

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Speaker 1: Tassa's little mini recap on this one. It's really really fun.

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Speaker 1: But you guys might remember, I hope you do. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago Friday's Drop podcast. I was half heartedly,

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Speaker 1: I guess, trying to make the case for okc's SGA

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Speaker 1: to deserve some All Star consideration. That was one of

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Speaker 1: the questions we had proposed to each other, and I

511
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Speaker 1: was going through all the guards in the West, you know, Curry, Good,

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Speaker 1: Dame Locks, CJ. McCollum, you know, on the shelf for

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Speaker 1: a good chunk of time. So he's likely out of

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Speaker 1: the running. Unfortunately, otherwise he would have been a lock.

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Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell, Donovan Mitchell, excuse me, balling for the Jazz.

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Speaker 1: He's probably in there, especially with the record they have.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was up in arms. I didn't include Mike Conley,

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Speaker 1: and they want him to make his first All Star

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Speaker 1: Game too, especially Lee having him in the Defensive Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year consideration. So he's in the mix. And

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Speaker 1: then I kept going. DeRozan obviously doing quietly good things

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Speaker 1: for the Spurs. Devin Booker, we know he's a guy

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Speaker 1: that's already made an All Star team. He's a game

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Speaker 1: winner there last night. You know, he's incredible. Murray's struggled,

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Speaker 1: John Moran's missed a lot of games. Who knows what

526
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Speaker 1: you do with John Wall and Victor Oladipo. Point is,

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Speaker 1: I need a bunch of guards. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Darren Fox. And Fox is rolling right now.

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Speaker 1: He had a slow start to the season, but over

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Speaker 1: his last ten games averaging twenty six, eight and four

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Speaker 1: kings are very decent. Five and five over that stretch,

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Speaker 1: and his three point percentage Foxes it's bounced back. Remember

533
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Speaker 1: he had that really weird, like brutal year last year.

534
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Speaker 1: We just couldn't hit the three ball. It's back to it,

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Speaker 1: you know, an average thirty five percent. But his takeover

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Speaker 1: capabilities in this one, and he's done it a couple

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Speaker 1: of times now, are really fun watches, go watch the highlights.

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Speaker 1: He is just a treat and I sort of like that.

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Speaker 1: They keep him off the ball early in the possession

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Speaker 1: a lot of the times, like you would think it's

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Speaker 1: just in his hands for the entire possession, sort of

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Speaker 1: like Luke alike, but it's not. They sort of keep

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Speaker 1: him off ball and then swung to him and then

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Speaker 1: he can attack and create. They did that a lot

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Speaker 1: last night. Anyway. Awesome game from him. He loves playing

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Speaker 1: the Pelicans. For whatever reason. He's averaging like forty point

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Speaker 1: five points per game against some shooting sixty one percent,

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Speaker 1: probably because they have no one inside to actually deter

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Speaker 1: a shot because he was.

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Speaker 4: Just well, there's also a long standing beef between Deer

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Speaker 4: and Fox and Lonzo's ball, right and he's been lighting

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Speaker 4: lonzo ball up since college.

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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, and maybe that's a part of it. For sure,

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Speaker 1: He's just I think Zilla wrote about this morning. Fox

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Speaker 1: has a bit of an edge to him right now.

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Speaker 1: It's nice a little anger to his offensive game. So look,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Fox even is I doubt he

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Speaker 1: even makes All Star team with all those guards that

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Speaker 1: I went through, but he's got to be included in

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Speaker 1: a bunch of those guys, I said, especially the way

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Speaker 1: he's been playing over the last little bit. It was

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Speaker 1: a hell of a takeover, that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was great. It was fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: But if you look at just how many uncontested kind

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Speaker 5: of layups he hadn't and part of that is to

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Speaker 5: do with his speed. You know, he beats his defender,

567
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Speaker 5: but there's just no one else sort of coming to

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Speaker 5: cover there for the Pelicans.

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Speaker 2: So it was great.

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Speaker 5: But if you look at his shot chart in that

571
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Speaker 5: fourth quarter, he basically had the long two of three

572
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Speaker 5: and then everything else was just a layup at the rim.

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Speaker 5: So it was an easy seventeen points there in the

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Speaker 5: fourth quarter for him. But listen, the Kings need any

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Speaker 5: win they can get, and he's he looks like he

576
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Speaker 5: is maturing as a player. But I just wonder when

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Speaker 5: you talk all Star, I just feel the Kings are

578
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Speaker 5: so far below now.

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Speaker 1: He'll be on the outside looking in again, for sure,

580
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Speaker 1: But he's just on a great run right now. And

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Speaker 1: I just think like there are a few guys when

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Speaker 1: he gets it going because of his speed, and if

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Speaker 1: you compare with a decent, like a respectable three point shot,

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Speaker 1: which he obviously has again this year, and he had

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Speaker 1: two years prior. I mean he's a tough guy to

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Speaker 1: cover because he's so late. Like did you see the

587
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Speaker 1: spin through traffic and and then your rowed like fake

588
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Speaker 1: pass to the corner got Lonzo. I think it was

589
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Speaker 1: tk to like completely bite on it. I mean it

590
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Speaker 1: was a highlight play. I had to have been in

591
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Speaker 1: the top ten plays of the night last night. It's

592
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Speaker 1: like he's just he's rolling right now. And the Kings,

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Speaker 1: you know, look five hundred for the Kings, bring it.

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Speaker 1: Bring it up. Man.

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Speaker 4: If they're winning and you talk about it, they're instantly

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Speaker 4: going to start losing. You probably just cursed them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was watching this though, and I was thinking the

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Speaker 4: same thing as Keetz. Who is going to be an

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Speaker 4: All Star first? Between Darren Fox, John Morant, Jamal Murray

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Speaker 4: and Shake Gill, just Alexander, your four sons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, who is going to be an All Star first?

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Booker was included, but he he's already

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Speaker 1: he's already off. Yeah, he's I've sent him to a college,

605
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Speaker 1: I you know, I helped him pack and drove him

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Speaker 1: up to the big school. As soon as you started

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Speaker 1: ignoring him, he became an All Star. Well, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm seeing my son's mature, Trey. They're turning

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Speaker 1: into men. I can let them go, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't need to keep an eye on them. I feel

611
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Speaker 1: confident in their in their status in the world. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: those four, who's the first?

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Speaker 6: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Man, it's just so tough because it comes feeling. It

615
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: just comes down to the records, Lee, like, God, like,

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Speaker 1: which team you have more faith into, you know, be

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Speaker 1: five games over five hundred come around the All Star break.

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Speaker 1: I don't know it should be Murray, but should be Murray.

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Speaker 5: He hasn't really done it yet so far this season.

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Speaker 1: That that's my Well, that's funny. I would say, you know,

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Speaker 1: Murray's on the best team of those of the bunch,

622
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Speaker 1: but I think I would have him. I might have

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Speaker 1: them fourth on the pecking order for this year, for

624
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Speaker 1: this season?

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Speaker 2: Is that Fox?

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Speaker 5: You just Alexander Murray and who's the other one?

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Speaker 1: Jo joh Yeah, but Joe hasn't played. Yeah, yeah, tough, tough.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question for everybody in the stream team

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Speaker 1: right now. If you're ranking them in the likelihood of

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Speaker 1: making an All Star Game, you know this year or

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Speaker 1: maybe even moving forward in the next year. Put them

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Speaker 1: in order for us. Let it, let us know. It's

633
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: a great question, Trey. But yeah, Fox Special last night

634
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Speaker 1: and uh another bad bad Pelicans lost. For sure. These

635
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: are wins they got to pick up here. If they

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Speaker 1: want to get into this playing thing or into the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: you're going to be battling with a Sacramento team, right,

638
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Speaker 1: you know, down the line for sure for one of

639
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: those spots. So that's a good win for Sacramento. All right,

640
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: we'll keep it going here. Let's get to this one.

641
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: Bulls beat the Knicks one ten, one oh two. Look

642
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: at TK decked down in his Bulls gear. It was

643
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one Who's Most Back Bowl? That's what

644
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: Dan Devine was wisely calling it on Twitter last night.

645
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: He stole that from me, Skeets. Oh, did I come on?

646
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Come on? You know it was a Knicks fan coming

647
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Speaker 1: up with that.

648
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 2: Yes, sure, so.

649
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: Well, I guess the Bulls are the most back in

650
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: terms of these two teams. What do you think, Trey? Oh?

651
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: If there was any question, it was answered last night.

652
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 4: The Bulls are by far most back. I know what

653
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 4: you're thinking, don't the Knicks have more win than wins

654
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 4: than the Bulls. Yeah, but not against the Bulls. It

655
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: wasn't pretty. Skeets tried to tune in. He said it

656
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,719
Speaker 4: was too ugly for him because he saw ten turnovers.

657
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 4: But uh, Skeets, it's the nineties. You know, this is

658
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference Finals type basketball. It's supposed to be grimy,

659
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 4: and you look at it and you see, oh, look

660
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: at all these turnovers. I see the Bulls shredding a

661
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: top ten defense all night. But the Knicks are a

662
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 4: top ten defense. They were allowing the fewest points per

663
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: game coming into the season, and the Bulls were destroying him.

664
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 4: Tons of assists. Another thirty assist game for the Bulls,

665
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: and they actually made clutch plays in the fourth quarter.

666
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: Because that's kind of how it's gone for the Bulls.

667
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 4: They'll have twenty five assists through the first three quarters

668
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: and then the other team really locks in on defense

669
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 4: and it gets harder for them to score.

670
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: But last night was not the case.

671
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: Lowry Markinen had thirty back to back games with thirty

672
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 4: very nice. Didn't score in the fourth quarter, of course,

673
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 4: but he did make a huge steal. Lake Kobe White.

674
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: A lot of those turnovers that you saw skeets, some

675
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 4: really ugly ones, trying to split pick and rolls, hitting

676
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: it off both guys legs. Incredible stuff for turnovers. But

677
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: he did have a massive three from the corner with

678
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: a lot of a minute left and Zach Lvine only

679
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: twenty one points, but he had ten in the fourth quarter.

680
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: He had a huge finish at the rim. He had

681
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 4: a dagger three with about thirty seconds left. Because you

682
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: can't leave an all star open at the top of

683
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 4: the key, and Thad Young was on triple double. Watch again.

684
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 4: He's either going to be a great trade piece for

685
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 4: somebody or if the Bulls are serious about trying to

686
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: get back into the playoffs here, he's gonna be instrumental

687
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: for them making a playoff push because since they've unlocked

688
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 4: his playmaking this year, they have found the right spot

689
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: for him. You know, people were excited when the Bulls

690
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: signed Fattis Junga had a last season. They say, stand

691
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: in the corner, shoot threes and try to make plays

692
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: off the dribble. That's not his strength. They're playing him

693
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 4: more at the mid post now they'll get him the

694
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: ball at the elbow, who do some dribble handoffs, I'll

695
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 4: throw a crazy pass. I'll do a little flippity floater

696
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: dink and dump it in there. He's been really close

697
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: to a triple double the past three games. He has

698
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: been huge for the ball since Wendell Carter went out,

699
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: kind of connecting pieces on both sides of the court,

700
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: actually setting screens. A good win for the Bulls last night.

701
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 4: No doubt They're back, and they play again on Wednesday.

702
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: So the Who's Back bull Part two coming already exciting

703
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 4: exciting times.

704
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

705
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: I tuned in around the second quarter. You know, I

706
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: saw the tweets flying around between you and Divine and

707
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'll tune in for this.

708
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm excited, and I did. I must have just caught

709
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: the worst three or four minutes of the game. It

710
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: felt like the teams were turning it over but back

711
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: and forth, like five or six possessions throws, Like I'm

712
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: gonna go watch something else for a little bit. But

713
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: I did come back for the end and I saw

714
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: those clutch shots from the Bulls, so that that was nice.

715
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: And look, you know me, Trey TK, I was high.

716
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: I was way too high on Thaddeus Young that signing

717
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: when he came in a couple of years ago. I

718
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: got all on board the Bulls being back before they

719
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: were back, so I got a little jaded from what

720
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: happened last year with Boiling. But I'm happy to see

721
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: him because I love him as a player. I do

722
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: like a he can do a lot, as he's proving

723
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: here filling up the box score. So it's nice to

724
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: see him contributing lely in the Who's Most back Ball

725
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: and it is the Bulls.

726
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 5: Tk's right, yeah, that he is young just keeps on

727
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 5: keeping on, doesn't he.

728
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: I mean he's good, man.

729
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good in the right role. That's exactly what

730
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: Trey said. I think it's spot on. You can't he

731
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: can't do some things, and he's putting sometimes the wrong position.

732
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 1: But when he's uh, you know, in this in this

733
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: role right now and he's getting the minutes with Carter around,

734
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: it's it works. Man.

735
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 5: This was a tied game with a minute to go, too,

736
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 5: and the Bulls closed it out. That's not something they've

737
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 5: done in the past. But you talk about marking there

738
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,239
Speaker 5: who didn't score in the fourth, But he got off

739
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 5: to such a hot start in that first half, he

740
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 5: was great. He finished with thirty points. As you mentioned,

741
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 5: back to back gend of six.

742
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: Threes in a row.

743
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 5: I think he's having a career season under Billy Donovan.

744
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 5: I think just a different coach, a different voice, getting

745
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 5: him in different Rossi's matured as well as a player,

746
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 5: so that's helping. I would like to see him do

747
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 5: two things. Rebound a little bit more and get to

748
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 5: the free throw line a little bit more. I think

749
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 5: that's two parts of his game he can really work on.

750
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 5: Because he's what six eleven, seven foot whatever he is,

751
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 5: and you don't want him to fall in love with

752
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 5: the perimeter. But when he's shooting the ball like he

753
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 5: did last night, I mean, it's fine. It gives him

754
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 5: the offense when they don't need to rely heavily on Zach.

755
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 5: And then Zach came out and closed the game for them.

756
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: So the Bulls are. They're a funny watch.

757
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 5: It's hard sometimes to think if they are a legit team,

758
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 5: if they're back, or it's like, yeah, maybe they are.

759
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 5: Maybe they're starting to build things together. So good win

760
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 5: for them last night against my Knicks. Tough loss, tough

761
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 5: loss for for my.

762
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: Guy on the Eastern Conference Tournament finals. Yeah, man, we

763
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: got I can't wait for you guys to have a

764
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: huge bet on Akil. These two teams are playing nixt

765
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Bulls to get it into the actual playoffs. That I

766
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: can't wait for. That would be great.

767
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 4: Uh Finally, one I do wish though, that the Bulls

768
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: basically hadn't wasted a year of this development, like you're

769
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: saying that. It would be great to see Market inside, rebounding,

770
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 4: scoring at the rim, just playing a little bit more

771
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 4: like a big guy, No doubt about it. It's great

772
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 4: to see Fattius Young showing up this year exactly like

773
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: everybody thought it was going to be last year. He

774
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: could have been a six Man of the Year candidate

775
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 4: if he had been used like this the entire time.

776
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: But now the Bulls have wasted a year of the

777
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: development of a guy like Market and to see what

778
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: kind of deal they're going to want to offer him

779
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: because he's coming into his qualifying offer season, coming into

780
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: the next offseason. Fattius Young is a guy who's now

781
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: going to be on the trade market because he's been

782
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: playing so well. Rather than being a piece that could

783
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: help push towards the playoffs, all because they decided to

784
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 4: bring Jim Boylan back for last season. He couldn't figure

785
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 4: out how to get the best out of guys like

786
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: Marking and Zach Lavine, Fattius Young, the people who were

787
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: supposed to take them to this next level to make

788
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: him be back last season, which we kind of all

789
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: thought they were going to be. It didn't go like that.

790
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 4: They wasted an entire year. And sometimes you're like, okay, whatever,

791
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: it's just a year. Not every team can be this year.

792
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: But you see why. It actually has an effected down

793
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: the line once the players start playing well, because now

794
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 4: they lost the year of evaluation for marking In and

795
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean, now you're thinking, are they

796
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 4: going to trade.

797
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: Kobe White for Lonzo Ball?

798
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: There's a lot of moves that could be made out there,

799
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: and it feels like we're kind of rushing into it.

800
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 4: This feels like it should be the first year of

801
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 4: a rebuild, where it's really.

802
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: Year three, year four. Yeah.

803
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: So that's that's the bad part when you're a Bulls fan.

804
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: But it's all about pure positivity right now. Back to

805
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: back thirty point games for marketing In. Maybe he makes

806
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 4: the All start team that's gonna happen.

807
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: He makes it over Levine. That would be a real

808
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: weird twist. All right, final game here, Malik Monk, remember him,

809
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: Malik Monk? He ran wild last night. He scored thirty

810
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: six off the bench as the Hornet's top to heat

811
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: one in overtime leally big takeaway.

812
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: Well, super impressive. We and buy the Hornet.

813
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 5: See contributions from lots of difference guys of coach you

814
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 5: talk about Malik Monk. De LaMelo got the start with

815
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 5: Terry Rozia being out and he was good.

816
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: But Malik's nine.

817
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 5: Three is off the bench, including the huge one send

818
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 5: it to overtime that capped off a comeback where the

819
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 5: Hornets were down ten with three minutes ago. Jimmy Butler

820
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 5: was working hard, being the man, looked like he was

821
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 5: going to get his team over the line, but it wasn't.

822
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 5: It was the Hornets who got it and Gordon Hayward

823
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 5: again another impressive game for him. Not a huge statistical line,

824
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 5: but the leadership down the stretch and Cody Zeller as well.

825
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: He's been good for them like this is the Hornets

826
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: also a little bit like the bull was. Maybe they're

827
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 5: starting to figure things out a little bit, because Davonte

828
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 5: Graham was also good there last night, and this was

829
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 5: the game where you sort of feel the heat with

830
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler back there, basically their full strength back to there.

831
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 5: I don't think they're missing anyone there. Last night it

832
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 5: looked like the heat, we're going to get a victory,

833
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 5: and this was going, this is what we're going to see.

834
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 5: This is a good team and when they have everyone together,

835
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: they're going to be able to beat teams like the Hornets.

836
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 5: But the Hornets hung in there, and that's what James

837
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 5: Barrigo said after the game. He's like, we were down

838
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 5: ten with a couple of minutes to go there, but

839
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 5: no one gave up. We just kept fighting and then

840
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 5: they pulled out victory. Go a little bit lucky, of course,

841
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 5: with Maleak's three the senate to overtime. He was firing away,

842
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 5: you know, nine off the bench. Great job. Great, This

843
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 5: was a fun game too. This was a fun performance.

844
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 5: So Gordon Hayward talking about all Stars, Gordon Hayward and

845
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 5: all start this season.

846
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Oh he's gotta be right, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got

847
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: good numbers. This team is obviously decent. They've surprised a

848
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: lot of people. Yeah, he's been an All Star before.

849
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: That always helps in the conversation. It's even the feel

850
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: good like sort of bounce back type of vibe to him,

851
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, having a bit of a down year and

852
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: all that and being signed in the big free agency. Yeah,

853
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: I think he's I don't think he's a lock, but

854
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: I think the coaches will give him some consideration for sure.

855
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

856
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 5: I mean it's going to come down a lot to

857
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 5: that record, but I think he's been outperforming his contracts

858
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 5: so far to this point.

859
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and uh, you know, it's it's it's

860
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: a shock, but it's well, maybe it's not a shock.

861
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 5: I mean he's always been a good player, but now

862
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 5: he's in a role where it's like, you got the

863
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 5: big bucks, can you go out there and actually be

864
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 5: a franchise changer for the team. And I think he's

865
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 5: definitely the leader of that team. And they're getting really

866
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 5: good performances again from Lamellow, Davonte Grihames, a little bit.

867
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: Up and down.

868
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 5: Zella's been good for them. And uh, and then if

869
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 5: he gets someone like Malik Monk Barring, I like that.

870
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 5: I mean it's you know, it's a bit of fastal

871
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: famine with him too.

872
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

873
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: It was great fun last night, fun game to watch.

874
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Stat Muse said that Monk is the first player

875
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: to put up thirty five plus points, nine plus threes

876
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: on sixty percent shooting off the bench in twenty years.

877
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean, those are some insane numbers off the bench, especially,

878
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: so good for him. It's a guy that I think

879
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people forgot was even on the Hornets.

880
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: They're still in the league, uh, because people were very

881
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: excited about him early on. I think it was two

882
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: years ago. I was wondering, like it was a make

883
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 1: or break season. Then we have the make or break question.

884
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: I hadn't Monk as my guy, Like, you know, he

885
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: sort of got to get it going together. Maybe he

886
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: gets bounced out of the league. And you know, he

887
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: didn't do a whole lot from what I remember last year.

888
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: But here he is having a good performance. Maybe this

889
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: gets him going. All right, we got some news. We're

890
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the dunk contest, three point contests and

891
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: all that, but first a quick break to hear from

892
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: our sponsors. All right, some news here. According to Sham's

893
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: Magic Forward, Aaron Gordon reportedly will miss the next four

894
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: to six weeks with a severe left ankle sprain. AG

895
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: exited the Magic's loss to the Raptors on Sunday in

896
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: the third quarter. He rolled his ankle, he limped to

897
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: the locker room and then later was seen leaving the

898
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: arena on crutches. You can actually see his ankle did

899
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: look good. So he's out four to six weeks. This

900
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: is you know, this sucks for Magic fans for a

901
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. One, now, this is their third starter

902
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: that is now out for a decent chunk of time.

903
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: You know, no markl Foltz, who's who's on the shelf?

904
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: Jonathan Isaac of course not playing, and now Ag. They

905
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: also have been without Michael Carter Williams and alf Rukmino

906
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: and a couple other guys at Kiki. So this is

907
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: just another bad loss for them. But I also wonder,

908
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: because I've been saying it for a while now, what

909
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: impact this has The timing of this injury has on

910
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon potentially being traded or not Trey, because it

911
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: is a guy that was continually popping up in trade rumors,

912
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: and you could see why teams could be interested. You

913
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: could probably get them with contract he's on, and maybe

914
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: the Magic eventually just like deciding to move on from him.

915
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: And I wonder if that's, like you a no go

916
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: now because he's out for a decent chunk of time here.

917
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, it's definitely going to be

918
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: harder to trade him with an injury, but I think

919
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 4: the Magic just need to be open for business right now.

920
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 4: They've been struggling here in twenty twenty one. They've lost

921
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 4: what six, eight, whoo, eleven of thirteen.

922
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: That's bad.

923
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: And Aaron Gordon has been playing point guard for them,

924
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 4: so you have to imagine it's going to get even

925
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: tougher for them on the offensive end of the ball

926
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 4: since he's not a natural point guard, but he's been

927
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: kind of forced into that job. Terrence Ross is a

928
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: guy that could help a contending team. Evan Fournier is

929
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 4: a guy that could help a contending team. If you

930
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: really want to blow things up and start a rebuild,

931
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 4: could you talk yourself into Nikola Vucevic if you're another team.

932
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: I know Lee wouldn't put him into a trade machine request,

933
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 4: but he's still a quality player. He's still the best

934
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 4: guy on the Magic, he can give you twenty and ten,

935
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: no doubt about it. Maybe on a contending team those

936
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: numbers are lesser, but they mean a little bit more.

937
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 4: But it hasn't happened with the group that the Magic

938
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: have there right now. It's not happening right now, really

939
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: really struggling, and now they've got all of these injuries

940
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 4: piling up. Perhaps it's time to pull the plug on

941
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 4: this season and just start making some moves where you

942
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: can for the next era of the Magic, which maybe

943
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 4: is based around Cal Anthony and Jonathan Isaac. I don't

944
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 4: know exactly what they're going to do, but I don't

945
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: think that they should continue forward with the squad they've

946
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: got right now.

947
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think, Lee?

948
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 5: I think Aaron Gordon's heard his trade value a bit anyway.

949
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: This season.

950
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 5: He's kind of been slumping a little bit and not

951
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 5: really looking too interested. I'm not sure what his value

952
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 5: was really anyway, because he was a bit of an

953
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 5: up and down player. But I think he needs to

954
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 5: move on. And I think if you're the Magic right now,

955
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 5: you just take almost whatever he can get for him,

956
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 5: because he's not going to command a huge package in return.

957
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 5: He needs a fresh start, and I think his time

958
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 5: there in Orlando's coming to an end. So yeahuch, I

959
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 5: mean he's an interesting one because I think, yeah, he

960
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 5: would provide the most value coming back to the team.

961
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 5: And you know, he you know, despite my criticism, he

962
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 5: has been a good loyal player for them since the

963
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 5: Dwight Howard trade, which is incredible that he's still there then,

964
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 5: and he's and he you know, he's he's produced decent

965
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 5: numbers for them, So I think he does provide the

966
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: most value. And but but they're also not going anywhere.

967
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 5: They're a first round playoff team at best. So you

968
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 5: may as well hit the reset button and see if

969
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 5: you can get some assets in return and start again.

970
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 5: And yeah, Cole Anthony, he showed he's you know, he

971
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 5: seems ready to be in the NBA. He's got a

972
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 5: long way to go, of course, but you've got a

973
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 5: couple of young pieces there, and see if you can

974
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 5: start again, because this Magic team as it is right now,

975
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 5: is not really going anywhere.

976
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Right even like best case scenario with despite all the

977
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: injuries is what like they're probably the seventh or eight

978
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: seed best at losing the first round. Again, I mean, yeah,

979
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: they're sort of just spinning their wheels here. I'm with you, guys,

980
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: though you know I can't. I'm sure one of you

981
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: will probably think of it right away, but I'm trying

982
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: to remember, like a guy sort of on Aaron Gordon's level,

983
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: to be traded while injured. You know, it just feels

984
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: I can't think of anybody. I'm sure it's happened. Of

985
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: course it's happened, but yeah, he's for whatever reason, a

986
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: guy gets injured and it's just probably less likely maybe

987
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: he gets moved. But I still even think then that

988
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: that Orlando Magic will move him before the deadline. I

989
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: think it happens, all right, this one. Next one's fun here.

990
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: According to The New York Times, Mark Stein, the NBA

991
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: the Players Union, they're discussing the possibility of adding a

992
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: dunk contest and a three point contest to this proposed

993
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: All Star Game in Atlanta on the weekend of March

994
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: sixth and seventh. I think Will just doubling down saying

995
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: it sounds like this is going to be a one

996
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: night affair, the game and some of these contests. You know,

997
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: there's lots of talks ongoing still for what this All

998
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: Star twenty twenty one will look like will entail and

999
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: all that, but the momentum is there. It is sure

1000
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: feeling like this is gonna happen. And you can disagree

1001
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: that it's a good idea, but it looks like they're

1002
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: going to do this here in Atlanta. So we thought

1003
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: we could have some fun with it and you know,

1004
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: look ahead to the Dunk Contest and three point contests

1005
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: and sort of build our perfect fields for them. So

1006
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: Trey gave you the dunk Contest. We gave three point

1007
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: shooter Lealy the three point Contest, So Trey get us started.

1008
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how many dunkers you want to go

1009
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: for what they usually do, six you want to go more.

1010
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: But who do you want in the twenty twenty one

1011
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: dunk contest? If this thing actually kicks off here in Atlanta.

1012
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: Well, skeets, I'm gonna treat it like I work for

1013
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 4: the NBA, and I'm gonna ask a lot of people

1014
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 4: because I think it might be a little bit hard

1015
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: to get commitments this year to have a dunk contest

1016
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 4: in front of no crowd.

1017
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: That's what you're doing.

1018
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 4: Is for the pop, so it might be tough to

1019
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: get some of the big names, which it always is.

1020
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 4: That's why I've got different tiers of people I want

1021
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 4: to ask, you know, I put this out on Twitter

1022
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: saying who do you want to see to kind of

1023
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 4: get take the temperature of general public, see who they want.

1024
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 4: A lot of names keep coming up. There are a

1025
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 4: few names that I would love to have in the

1026
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 4: dunk Contest that there are just absolutely no chances of

1027
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 4: it happening.

1028
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon. He's hurt right now.

1029
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 4: He also keeps getting ripped off every single Dunk Contest,

1030
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 4: so I think he's gonna be done.

1031
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1032
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 4: Zach Lavine, I would love to see him in it again,

1033
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: that's not gonna happen. He's gonna be playing in the

1034
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 4: All Star Game. He wouldn't do it in Chicago last year,

1035
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: and it was in Chicago. Donovan Mitchell a one time

1036
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: Slam Dunk Contest champion, but he has transcended the Dunk

1037
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 4: Contest at this point. So the biggest name I would

1038
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 4: like to ask that I don't know if he would

1039
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 4: say yes, but I.

1040
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: Think there's still a chance. Jalen Brown.

1041
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 4: Would he ever go into dunk contest or is he

1042
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 4: too big for the dunk contest At this point.

1043
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 5: I think he should go in, and I think he's

1044
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 5: too big for it.

1045
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 4: He's been one of those guys that's always like, yeah,

1046
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 4: maybe i'll do it some year.

1047
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do it some year, because he's got hops,

1048
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: he can dunk. Yeah, And he might be one of

1049
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: those guys like, well he gets named an All Star starter,

1050
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: let's say, and he's like, well, I'm here, sure, I'm

1051
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: playing in the game, and uh, yeah, I'll do it. Yeah.

1052
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't decide because on the other side,

1053
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: I could see him going the dunk contest is stupid,

1054
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: like why are we doing this? Like couldn't you also

1055
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: see him saying yes, yes, exactly. This is like a

1056
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: complete joke. Why are we even having an All Star weekend.

1057
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, So I guess it's

1058
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: a good ask. I'd love to see him in it,

1059
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: but I would lean towards him saying no if I

1060
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: had to guess.

1061
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: All right, Okay, so I agree, I think that those

1062
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 4: four are probably not going to say it. That would

1063
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 4: be an incredible for for a dunk contest. Sure, but

1064
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: moving on, guys you gotta have in the dunk contest

1065
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 4: this year likely would say yes. Derek Jones Junior, the

1066
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 4: reigning champion, still playing minutes out there in Portland, still

1067
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 4: jumps very high, still nicknamed airplane mode. The guy's awesome.

1068
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 4: I would also have to have Miles Bridges of the

1069
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 4: Charlotte Hornets maybe has the dunks of the year so

1070
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: far this year catching those oops from LaMelo. Obviously, you

1071
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 4: would probably think maybe he gets LaMelo involved in the

1072
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 4: dunk contest somehow. Those are my two. Gotta have thems

1073
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: of guys that could realistically be in the dunk contest there,

1074
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 4: Jones Junior and Miles Bridges. Next guys, I'm asking expecting

1075
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: them to say no. Zion and John Morant. They're both

1076
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: in year two. They're both huge dunkers. The fans want

1077
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 4: to see them. Maybe one of them would say yes,

1078
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 4: But I don't know about the two of them. If

1079
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. They were both rumored to have been

1080
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: asked for the Chicago contest last year. Zion obviously was

1081
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 4: not in any condition to be doing it.

1082
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just have a concern that either of the

1083
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 5: teams would really want to push them into a either

1084
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 5: right now, considering they've had the injuries that's the concern

1085
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 5: for me. I think of the two, Morant would probably

1086
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 5: be the one. I'd like to say more. I think

1087
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 5: he can be a little bit more stylistic, you know.

1088
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 5: I think I think Zion's more power are those ions?

1089
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 5: I mean, Zion's had some great three sets.

1090
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't know ifleeve and I agree with that, and

1091
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: I'm the Zion hater of the bunch. Look, I'd love

1092
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: both of them in there. But that's I think you're right.

1093
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: It's more. It feels more like a team saying no, no,

1094
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: you don't need to be doing this. And just back

1095
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: to Bridges too. I forgot that he was in it

1096
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: last year and he had a fifty in him. But

1097
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: I love the pick again. I'm with you on it

1098
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: because I love a guy going back in a dunk

1099
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: contest because you need that experience. You need to know

1100
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: what works, what doesn't. Get the you know, the jitters

1101
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: out of you a little bit you're a little more comfortable.

1102
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: So anyway, Bridges a lock. But yeah, I just think

1103
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: the teams would frown on John Zion being in it,

1104
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: But god, I would want them both in it because

1105
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: there were rumors for sure. I mean, my dunk sources.

1106
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: I remember last year were thinking it was going to

1107
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: be a six dunker field at one point, but injuries

1108
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: came into play and whatever. Guy's gotta speak to the

1109
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: dunk sources. They know, they definitely know.

1110
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 4: Okay, so we're assuming Zion and Jah say no for

1111
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 4: various reasons.

1112
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 1: Then you gotta deep, go deep.

1113
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 4: You gotta be asking for the young guys who have

1114
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: no reason to say no. Here are my next two asks.

1115
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 4: Obi Toppin of the New York Knicks. Oh my goodness.

1116
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: The guy's got the longest, skinniest legs outside of Trey

1117
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: Kirby out here.

1118
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: No dumper.

1119
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 4: That guy don't have a steroid ass, but he can

1120
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: get up. He's throwing down between the legs dunks during

1121
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: college games, like on a fast break. He's got a

1122
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 4: dunk workout you can watch on YouTube. Incredible stuff.

1123
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: He's very tall.

1124
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 4: I know that not everybody likes a really tall dunker,

1125
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: but he could be a Mari Stoudamier. Again, that's the

1126
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 4: guy he's always compared to. And Omari was awesome in

1127
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: the dunk contest. I'd like to see that that and

1128
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: he's a.

1129
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: New York guy.

1130
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 4: He's a New York Nick. It's a nice pick right there. Yeah,

1131
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: the other guy had. This one comes to you straight

1132
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: from the dunk sources skeets. Oh, I said, who's the

1133
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: best unknown dunker in the league.

1134
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, what's the kid's name, Rayjon Tucker. No, that's

1135
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: not bad.

1136
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: Rajon Tucker is a good one. Okay, I got an

1137
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 4: answer right away. Cassius Stanley Cashus Stanley of the Indiana

1138
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: Pacers zach Lavine like ups, they say, And if you

1139
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: see some of his dunks from high school, from college,

1140
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 4: from just warm ups, he floats. This man floats when

1141
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 4: he plays during a game. It's almost a dunk contest.

1142
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 4: All he's doing is running as fast as he can,

1143
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 4: back and forth. Not dissimilar to when Derek Jones Junior

1144
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: first came into the dunk contest with the Phoenix Suns

1145
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: and he was kind of like, you made the NBA

1146
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: because you can run and jump. Let's see it in

1147
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 4: a contest. I would love to see the same from

1148
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 4: Cassius Stanley.

1149
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a wild card pick right there. I like

1150
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: your dunk sources giving you that though. I'm gonna believe

1151
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: that then, because this the you gotta.

1152
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: Go deep to the dunk sources. Nobody else is gonna say.

1153
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 4: You know who should be in this Hamadu DIALI, well

1154
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 4: I can't. He wanted he was awesome. There the sameless

1155
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 4: guys out there who can dunk like crazy?

1156
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna ask you trade. Do you not

1157
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: think you have to have back the defending dunk champ.

1158
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: Do you don't? Do you care about that? You know

1159
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: what I mean? You said Derek Jones Junior, who is

1160
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: obviously won it, but that was a couple of years ago.

1161
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: 'allo last year? Does he get the automatic? That was

1162
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: last year? But yeah, no, I thought that was Charlotte,

1163
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: wasn't it last year?

1164
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: Last year in Chicago?

1165
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: Was last year? Last year?

1166
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1167
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: Okay, two years ago?

1168
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: My bad?

1169
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm the raining champ back and I like the

1170
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: raining champiers. I rack, my bad. You had it right.

1171
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: Derek jon Junior is back? Good because I always I'm

1172
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: a proponent of having the defending champ back. So you

1173
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: got to have him there, all right? So who do

1174
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: you got in theory. You got Derek Jones Jr.

1175
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 4: My four would be Derek Jones Junior, Miles Bridges, Obi Toppin,

1176
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 4: and Cassius Stanley which seems realistic, which seems realistic, and

1177
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 4: four guys who were kind of dunk specialists, so it

1178
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 4: could be good.

1179
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: I would like to correct myself then too, Bridges was

1180
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: two years ago. I was getting it mixed up with that.

1181
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: John Collins, why I was thinking that was last year?

1182
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: My goodness. Yeah, okay, yeah, I know, I know, Okay,

1183
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: I like that. That's like a real Yeah. Is that

1184
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: the sexiest names? No, but that's a reason we'll get

1185
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: and those are great dunkers. So let's hear from you, guys.

1186
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: Who would you add to a TK thing? I have

1187
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: a question, do you think when they do this? If

1188
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: they do this having no fans, could it oddly help

1189
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 1: the dunkers in the dunk contests having very little having

1190
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: very few people there? Obviously? I think the players I

1191
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: guess would be there and maybe some fans would be there,

1192
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: but like not of packed house, Like does that help

1193
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: the nerves at all? Maybe for them to execute some

1194
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: of these things they're gonna try and pull off. I

1195
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: have no idea.

1196
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 4: Probably depends on the player, right. Probably some guys are like,

1197
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 4: this is perfect, conditions are perfect. All I gotta do

1198
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: is go out there and dunk. And there are others

1199
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 4: who would love to come out of the tunnel here

1200
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: twenty thousand fans going crazy and think, oh I can

1201
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 4: jump fourteen percent higher, right now, let's go crazy.

1202
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: Yeah that depends on the guy, probably. Yeah, Okay, good stuff,

1203
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: all right. I love that. That's tk's perfect dunk field,

1204
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: A realistic dunk field, that's for sure for twenty twenty

1205
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: one here in Atlanta. Okay, Leap, let's go to you.

1206
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: You know, I assume you're going with your eight three

1207
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: point shooters. Yeah, I assume you have the defending champ

1208
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: in the mechs, so you're doing that.

1209
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I know you like that, and I like

1210
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 5: that too. Buddy Heeld won it last there last year

1211
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 5: there in Chicago, so he gets in. But when I

1212
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 5: was going through this yesterday, I was like, what am

1213
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 5: I going to do? Just pick the eight best shooters

1214
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 5: in the league and have that. I thought that's a

1215
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 5: little bit boring. I want to try to sexy up

1216
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 5: the three point Shootout this year. I want to still

1217
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 5: have guys who can win it, like legit shooters, but

1218
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 5: I also want to try to make it a little

1219
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 5: bit more fun. So I've brought a different angle to

1220
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 5: it this year. Okay, you qualify by either being a

1221
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 5: beautiful shooter of the basketball or you were there for intrigue.

1222
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, go on, yes, you got me. I like

1223
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 1: that pitch.

1224
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 2: Okay.

1225
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 5: So these are the four beautiful shooters of the basketball.

1226
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 5: Steph Obviously he can get there any season he wants. Basically,

1227
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 5: he can go. He's going to be the all time

1228
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 5: leader in three points. Mate, he can go anytime he wants.

1229
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 5: It's like the green jacket at the US Masters. You

1230
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 5: get an automatic invite for life. Okay, Lillard, I mean again,

1231
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 5: miss the clutch, big shots, beautiful shooter.

1232
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: He's in for short A bog Danovich.

1233
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 5: I'm happy to let Boyie and Bogie have a shootout

1234
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 5: to see who gets in there, like a pre tournament shootout,

1235
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 5: because they're both gorgeous shooters of the ball. Bogie right

1236
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 5: now is obviously been injured. He should be back in time.

1237
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 5: Bogie out in Utah, gorgeous shooter. So let's get a

1238
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 5: bog Danovich in there, and then you get Buddy healed

1239
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 5: as a return champ. I also want to get Bradley

1240
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 5: Bill in there because he's a beautiful shooter of the

1241
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 5: basket ball and it's my competition, my rules.

1242
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: So I like that.

1243
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I like this comment real quickly from Ziggy

1244
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 4: star Fucks. You mentioned the green jacket like at the Masters.

1245
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 4: Ziggy Starfuks says that the contestants in the three point

1246
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 4: contest should.

1247
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: Get a Larry Bird warm up jacket, a green jacket.

1248
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 4: It's perfect. I love raining champion comes on, we're's a bird. Yeah,

1249
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: shoots some three good stuff.

1250
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 5: I like that, and I've got one of those as well.

1251
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 5: I might just wear that around the house that day. Okay,

1252
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 5: So these four now are the intrigue contestants. Okay, I

1253
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 5: think these guys would make fun watchers. Lou Dort doesn't

1254
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 5: have the prettiest shot in the world, but he's fearless

1255
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 5: and I think I absolutely love that about him and

1256
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 5: I respect that about him, and I think he would

1257
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 5: take on this challenge. I think he'd be like, you

1258
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 5: know what, why not. He's shooting thirty eight percent from

1259
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 5: downtown this season as well, which is pretty good. It's

1260
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 5: just he doesn't have the mechanics of a beautiful shooter.

1261
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 5: But I would love the fearlessness aspect of him. We

1262
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 5: saw that, especially in the bubble last year. If he's open,

1263
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 5: he's taken the shot. So let's get him in there

1264
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 5: and see how he would go in a competition.

1265
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: Wow, Dort, I'll count Dort all right.

1266
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 5: Jordan Clarkson, Now, I think Jordan Clarkson would set the

1267
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 5: record for getting through his racks in about thirty seconds.

1268
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: I think he would just fire away.

1269
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 5: So I'd be prepared to say, you know what, if

1270
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 5: you can go through twice in a minute, your score

1271
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 5: counts is total. Okay, but you have to but you

1272
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 5: have to complete every single rack in that one minute.

1273
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 5: Somebody I'm telling you about.

1274
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: Them all up and then go back in a minute.

1275
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: No way, I mean you guess. I guess you could

1276
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: just chuck them now.

1277
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: But that's how he fires away.

1278
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 5: I mean he's he's tied for eleventh in the league

1279
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 5: at thirty eight percent in makes as, tied for eleventh

1280
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 5: in makes sorry and shooting thirty eight percent.

1281
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: He's been good for the Jazz this season. So and

1282
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: again it's like there's a challenge for you, Jordan, go

1283
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: out there and see if he could do it.

1284
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Speaker 5: Nikolae Jokic, now you might be surprised. I certainly was.

1285
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 5: He is only ninety eighth in the league in makes

1286
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 5: at twenty eight made for the season, it feels like

1287
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 5: he's made way more than that. Now he shoots thirty

1288
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 5: eight percent, and he's pretty much once you've had the

1289
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 5: Jordan Clarkson experience, the complete opposite for Nikolay. Would he

1290
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 5: get through the racks in a minute if you gave

1291
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 5: him two minutes. When he gets through the racks, he's

1292
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 5: got that slow release, soull.

1293
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: Release, going to be a little slower between the racks.

1294
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: That'd be difficult for him. But he's a great shooter.

1295
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he's a great shooter.

1296
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 5: And again I think people would be like, I wonder

1297
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 5: just how this is going to go because we see

1298
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 5: him always make those shots. But would he only take

1299
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 5: like fifteen and then I'd be just like.

1300
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: Ah, that's it.

1301
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 5: Undone the minutes up right, last one? Lebron James now, ooh,

1302
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 5: I like this. Lebron owes us a dunk contest. We

1303
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 5: know that's never going to happen. He said back in Dallas,

1304
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 5: I think it was in twenty ten. Put his name

1305
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 5: into the following season's preliminary round and he never showed up.

1306
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 5: You can't be the greatest or second greatest full time

1307
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 5: and never go in one of these contests. Jordan obviously

1308
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 5: went in the three point Contest and has the lowest

1309
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 5: score ever. It was high, yep, And it kind of

1310
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 5: surprised me that Jordan never winning it again, because it's like,

1311
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 5: that's the classic I'm going to I'm gonna come back,

1312
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 5: and I'm.

1313
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: Gonna win this damn thing. That's true.

1314
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 5: So I'm surprised and evident. Obviously Jordan won the dunk

1315
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 5: contest as well. There are a couple of times Lebron

1316
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 5: has never been in it. By the end of this season,

1317
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 5: Lebron is going to be top ten all time in

1318
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 5: three points made. He deserves to go in there. He

1319
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 5: owes it to us to go in there. He's shooting

1320
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 5: forty one percent from three this season. He's eleventh in makes,

1321
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 5: tied for it with Jordan Clarkson. Actually for this season,

1322
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 5: I want to see Lebron in it. I think I

1323
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 5: think this would be a great situation for Lebron to

1324
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 5: go in there because we know he's clutch, He's delivered

1325
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 5: huge threes throughout his entire career. Go out there and

1326
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 5: do it in the contest. I think he can do it.

1327
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 5: He's not just like a random three point shooter. He's

1328
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 5: got the skills. And I think this would be a

1329
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 5: great just a great situation to see Lebron at this

1330
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 5: stage visically go in a competition like this and win it.

1331
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 5: He's clutch, you can deliver.

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00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: That's a great pick. I love that. I feel like

1333
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: that's realistic. Actually too, maybe would go in this.

1334
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 2: Right Yeah, yeah, I mean why not?

1335
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 5: So so Yeah, there's my feel there's still a couple

1336
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 5: of spots there between the boggies to side out which

1337
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 5: one goes in there? Yeah, any other suggestions.

1338
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to get a lot of people saying, like,

1339
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Harris has got to be there. They're

1340
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: gonna get your your classic guys that are like you know, Booker,

1341
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: I'd actually I think we should let Clay in it.

1342
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: You can like wheel them around or something to shoot.

1343
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're gonna get those classic guys. But I

1344
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: like where you went with it. You got you got

1345
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: creative with it. I've got no problem with that. I

1346
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: love the Lebron pick. Like I think that we got

1347
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: to start like that hashtag going now this if this

1348
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: thing's actually happening on March seventh in Atlanta. Let's let's

1349
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: get Lebron shooting in this thing. Also, do you guys

1350
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: call it the three point contest or the three point shootout?

1351
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: I feel like they've gone back and forth with this

1352
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: ding like I would say, I go back and forth too.

1353
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: I write it. I always write contests though. Yeah, but

1354
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: they used to call it the shootout, and I think

1355
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: they now call it contest though I think, like officially

1356
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: from the NBA.

1357
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 5: I still think of it as the shootout, but I

1358
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 5: think it is the contest. I think it's main for

1359
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 5: a couple of years now.

1360
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I like the shootout though.

1361
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1362
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: I like because I like one being the contest and

1363
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: one be in the shootout.

1364
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: I like that.

1365
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's hear uh who Ley who Trey's missing

1366
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: in their ideal dunk contest and three point contests? You know,

1367
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: fields to participant, So let us know in the stream

1368
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: team tweet us I had no dunk sing let us

1369
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: know in the YouTube comments. Email no dunk at the

1370
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: Athletic dot Com. Just let us know. All right, THO

1371
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Guys, got to take one

1372
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,479
Speaker 1: more break and then we'll get to another Bradley Beal trade?

1373
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: All right? What do you got? Incredible? All right, Lely,

1374
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: now is the time of the podcast for you to

1375
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: anger the people out there with your latest Bradley Beal

1376
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: trade offer. Though I will say once again, Fred Katz

1377
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: Shan Sharanya of The Athletic just had an article go

1378
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: up on The Athletic saying Beal has so far expressed

1379
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: he wants to remain in Washington and has not indicated

1380
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: he prefers to be traded. Why do you want to

1381
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: keep trading him? Lely? But I'm just kidding, But like,

1382
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: what do you got today? Because we had a lot

1383
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: of fun yesterday. Again you angered so many people, like

1384
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: there's almost what I want to read from Instagram like

1385
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: that once you like fired some for some reason, like

1386
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: it's crazy. People are going nuts. But what do you got? Yeah?

1387
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, And I saw I said on the

1388
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 5: show yesterday I got a little bit too carrot. I said,

1389
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 5: I'll come up with a new one every day to

1390
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 5: have some fun. And then I just saw the comments

1391
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 5: coming through, and I'm like, oh man, what have I

1392
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 5: done here? Anyway, we're in this situation, say as well

1393
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 5: go through with it now and It's funny because I

1394
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 5: said yesterday late on the show, I said, I'm trying

1395
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 5: to get him to the Raptors. And the real problem

1396
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 5: I found is, you know, you're not going to trade

1397
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 5: him straight up for Kyle Lowry. That's just not going

1398
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 5: to happen. OG's not going to happen. So I thought,

1399
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 5: how can the Raptors entice the Wizards while also improving

1400
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 5: and giving up one of their young pieces. And Fred

1401
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,479
Speaker 5: van Vleiad's the name that came up, but he can't

1402
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 5: be traded until February twenty first. But we actually got

1403
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 5: a message this morning from someone, Louis Allen, Louis Allen,

1404
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 5: who came up with a deal, and I actually this

1405
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 5: was kind of what I was trying to work on yesterday.

1406
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 5: And then I realized, like, okay, let's just pretend that

1407
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 5: he can be traded. I mean, it's only nineteen days away,

1408
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 5: so you know, this one will take some time to

1409
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 5: get done, but it can work. And the deal is

1410
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 5: it's beal to the rap for Freddie Norm. The Raptors

1411
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 5: obviously easily give up Norm and then two first rounders,

1412
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 5: because in that sense, the Wizards are taking on Norm

1413
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,479
Speaker 5: just to make.

1414
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: The deal work.

1415
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 5: They're getting Fred, who is only one year younger than

1416
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 5: Bradley Beal. It felt like he was a lot younger,

1417
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 5: but he's not. So you're getting, you know, a young

1418
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 5: good player there and Freddie and then you're getting those

1419
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 5: two first rounders. The Raptors immediately become a better team.

1420
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 5: But Fred, Fred's a better Excuse me, Bill is a

1421
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 5: better player than Fred Van Vled as good as Fred

1422
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 5: has been, and he's been fantastic, especially in the playoffs

1423
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 5: for them the last couple of seasons. But I think

1424
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 5: the I think the Raptors do that, and I think

1425
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 5: the Wizards would probably do that as well. I think

1426
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 5: that's a pretty good return for be Or. You're getting

1427
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 5: You're basically getting, you know, the two draft picks and Fred,

1428
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 5: and then do whatever you want there with Normy because

1429
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 5: Normy is a little bit frustrating, isn't he sketsy there?

1430
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 5: For a Raptors fan. Sure he has his moments, no

1431
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 5: doubt about it. He's been really good at times, but

1432
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 5: that consistency is still just not there.

1433
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: I think.

1434
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 5: So, I think that's not a bad deal. It does

1435
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 5: keep me in the Eastern Conference. I'm trying to get

1436
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 5: into the Western Conference because I think the Wizards would

1437
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 5: prefer to deal him out West. But I think that's

1438
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 5: the sort of move I think that I think the

1439
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 5: Messiah Jerry would make that move. I don't think Messiah

1440
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 5: would trade Kyle Lowry to a team like the Wizards,

1441
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 5: even though Messiah is ruthless, I just don't think he

1442
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 5: would do that.

1443
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: So I don't think that's a bad deal for the Raptors.

1444
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a great deal. I think I never

1445
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: think you have a problem with the team getting Bradley Beal.

1446
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: I think it's maybe the return, but I mean you're

1447
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: getting like I think it's gonna still just take more

1448
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: draft capital to get Bradley Beal, truthfully. But Van vliet

1449
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: as a as a, like you said, that's the thing.

1450
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,959
Speaker 1: He's not like a young piece. He's not Tyler hero age,

1451
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: he's not Michael Porter junior age. So that's where you

1452
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: run into trouble. But he's a damn good player, and

1453
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: he's under contract now you know, had a fairly reasonable

1454
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: deal like that Brocken level deal. So yeah, he's a good,

1455
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: good player that you could start to build a team around.

1456
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a little bit more I think from

1457
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: from Washington's or they're just not all that interested in

1458
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: you know, Fred van Vliet being the key piece Raptors.

1459
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: Sign me up. I love it, absolutely, love making paired

1460
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: with Bradley Beal, and of course Lowry's still there and Oci, Yeah,

1461
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: they would do that in a heartbeat. But I don't

1462
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: think the Wizards trade. Maybe I'm wrong. What do you think?

1463
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 4: Well, what if they're all on the phone together and

1464
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 4: Tommy Shepherd says, give me Siakam, We'll do Siakam for

1465
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 4: Bradley Beal, Siakam and some picks.

1466
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: Are you in on that skates?

1467
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 4: Would you be willing to give up Pascal Siakam certainly younger,

1468
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 4: but it's quite on Beale's level. Sacam obviously gives you

1469
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: it on both ends of the court. You'd be changing

1470
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 4: who you're building around. Are you more confident building around

1471
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 4: Bradley Beal, which has not worked out for Washington Maybe

1472
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 4: got a better team builder there in Toronto? Or would

1473
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 4: you rather build around Pascal Siakam The team's been great

1474
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 4: playoff performance not as much less?

1475
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not hanging up the phone.

1476
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking it out. I'm thinking it over for sure,

1477
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: if I'm the Raptors in that situation, in some sort

1478
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: of deal where Bill comes and Seacam moves. Yeah, but man,

1479
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: it's difficult because you know, bial under contract what for

1480
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: really only he's got the player option right in his

1481
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: two from now. Yeah, so I mean he could be

1482
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: out soon if he wanted to, where Sam of course

1483
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: locked up long term though, I'm with you, Bill much

1484
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 1: better player than Sakam right now, and I would say

1485
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: for the next probably a couple of years. That's a

1486
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: tough one. That's a tough one. The family one, I

1487
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: do immediately, I think a little bit more on the Siakam.

1488
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: But all right, Ley, that's not bad. Okay, I'm sure

1489
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: you angered some people, but who cares.

1490
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: Fred van Bleet would be awesome next to Bradley Beal.

1491
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 4: Once you're saying I'm in the same trade. It's like

1492
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 4: that would be a perfect backcourt right there, those two

1493
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 4: guys together, Fred playing a little defense, catching and shooting,

1494
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 4: creating when he needs to.

1495
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 2: Wonderful.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the contract situation there, yeah, I mean, I don't

1497
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 5: think miss I would care about the long term aspect

1498
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 5: there of Beale's deal, whether or not he decides to

1499
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 5: leave in two seasons. I mean, that's what he took

1500
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 5: the chance on with Kawhi Leonard to go in that.

1501
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: But hold on, he might care if he unless he

1502
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: believes adding bial to the current Raptors like makes them

1503
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: a legitimate title contender in the next year or two.

1504
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: Now I'm not sure it does that. Like they're not

1505
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 1: like an elite, elite team.

1506
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 5: No, no, no, they're not elite, but they you know,

1507
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 5: they're better, they're better with be on the team.

1508
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: You know they're better. But my point is you, I

1509
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: think you've got to take into consideration the contract at

1510
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: that point, how quickly he could be out unless it's

1511
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: like a Kawhi situation where you know Bill, Look, I

1512
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: got Bill is probably close to I don't know, I

1513
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: have to go through the list, but what where is

1514
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: he top ten? He's top fifteen, let's say easily, probably

1515
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: close or even the top ten, But he's not Cohi.

1516
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: There are like those handful of guys like Kawhi, Lebron

1517
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: and stuff like that where it's like, oh, yeah, I'm

1518
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: a title contender if he's on my team and he's healthy.

1519
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: Bal's not that he's just not. So I think I'm

1520
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: just saying you'd take into consideration how quickly he could

1521
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: move out. You're laughing? What are you reading?

1522
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm reading the comments already.

1523
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: Okay, well, Doply, what are you doing?

1524
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 4: Man?

1525
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: They're getting to you.

1526
01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: It's funny, isn't it funny?

1527
01:03:59,440 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 7: Though?

1528
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: What gets people angry?

1529
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: Like just I proposed, you know, dealing? What are you

1530
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: talking to that? It's crazy? I just like to know

1531
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: that we all have our faults, because Ley, you are

1532
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: the most liked person, it felt like, in the world

1533
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: and on the internet. But you offer a couple of

1534
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: bad fuel trains and suddenly the enemy and should be fired.

1535
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean it turns quickly. Man. The people are ruthless. Yeah,

1536
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: all right, so you so what are you retiring the

1537
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: Bradley Beal trade package bit here?

1538
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 5: Well, well, I'm not promising I'll have one fit tomorrow,

1539
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 5: but if I can find one, I'll keep waiting one

1540
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 5: for Trey Kirby's pull BA Come on, well, okay, all right,

1541
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 5: all right.

1542
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 4: Bradley Beal's college coach got a porter back to Washington.

1543
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: Get him out of here. You want, Kobe White, take him,

1544
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: Eel and Levine.

1545
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 4: We're talking seventy five points from your back court every

1546
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 4: night they're giving up seventy four.

1547
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 5: Who cares, that's a window still seventy four? All right,

1548
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 5: I'm doing the Bulls tomorrow.

1549
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, Okay, wait, okay, j Yeah, how fun Chuck

1550
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: Swersky Well dance and Swirsky. That's a new visual drop.

1551
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know we had good stuff, Jady. Okay, let's

1552
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: get to tweet of the night. Tweet of the night. Wow.

1553
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 6: So this is a story that a lot of people

1554
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 6: were sharing on Twitter yesterday, but it's actually from last Thursday,

1555
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 6: when Matt Barnes and Steven Jackson had the always shy

1556
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 6: and timid Kendrick Perkins on their podcast All the Smoke.

1557
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 6: It's episode sixty nine. Nice if you want to check

1558
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 6: it out. I scrubbed through it. It's a it's a

1559
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 6: fun listen. But the part that everyone is talking about

1560
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 6: was when Perk, from his perspective, confirms the rumors that

1561
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 6: James Harden stunk during the twenty twelve finals because he

1562
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 6: was enjoying the Miami night life too much. So here

1563
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 6: here's a clip of him talking about OKAC beating the

1564
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 6: Spurs and heading into the finals to face Lebron and

1565
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 6: the Heat.

1566
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 7: After we won the conference finals. I saw the energy

1567
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 7: and everybody and they had act like we won the championship,

1568
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 7: and you expect that out of some young guys.

1569
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 3: But I'm like, man, we got these muffles who over

1570
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: here waiting on us, who waiting for their first title

1571
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 3: run with a veteran team of Mike Miller James Jones, Like,

1572
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: you know, they got all these muffles who chasing up.

1573
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 7: They hardwell, so we end up getting game one, they

1574
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 7: got game two. But when we went to Miami, man,

1575
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 7: we could not get a win to save our life. Man,

1576
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 7: I mean Russe and KD came to play. I had

1577
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 7: a couple double double Surge was doing pretty good. But man,

1578
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 7: James ain't give us shit, and you know why, and.

1579
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: King of Diamonds and everything called the hole in his hands.

1580
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 7: Man, we couldn't get a man.

1581
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: Seeing san Antonio. Look in san Antonio, he didn't have

1582
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: a damn.

1583
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 2: Thing to do. See.

1584
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got about Yeah, we got the Miami shit.

1585
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: It was everything.

1586
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 7: We couldn't get that mother to Bob Bucket in that

1587
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 7: month he was killing us as san Antonio bro God

1588
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 7: damn yeah, he had to get his wrists in Miami.

1589
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: He couldn't get his wrists, was out here, motherfucking.

1590
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 6: Night, never mincing words. No, but uh well he only

1591
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 6: used to that three woods all that's true. I got

1592
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 6: my work cut up from me after the show.

1593
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, jeez, you did that to yourself. Man.

1594
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 6: It was It was too But it also reminded me

1595
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 6: of a time when we were an All Star. One

1596
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 6: of our crew members, Uh, it got a little. He

1597
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 6: succumbed a little to the Toronto night life, the White

1598
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 6: Vegas night life. And uh definitely not on his A

1599
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 6: game that year. But hey, it happens, It happens. It

1600
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,479
Speaker 6: wasn't one of any of us. It was a crew member.

1601
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, right right right.

1602
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 3: You know.

1603
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: The thing is, though, has James harden because I got

1604
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: the theory that he gets you know, he gets better,

1605
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: he gets stronger, the later he stays out, the more

1606
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: strip clubs he attends. So maybe that it was that

1607
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: was early in his career though.

1608
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 6: It was only twenty two. It was he was caught

1609
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 6: up in the lights and the excitement of it. Maybe,

1610
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 6: But anyway, I thought that was kind of kind of cool.

1611
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: That's a great tweet. It's a great tweet, and the

1612
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: numbers back it up. If you go check like Harden

1613
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: in that finals, especially in Miami. I don't think he

1614
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: was really all that great in the finals at all,

1615
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: but especially in Miami, he did struggle to shoot the ball,

1616
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: for sure. I do love Perk throwing in the like

1617
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 1: I had a couple of double doubles. Yeah you didn't, Buddy,

1618
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: you had one double double. Yeah, Russ Katie, they brought

1619
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: it surges all right, had a couple of double dogs.

1620
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: He throws it in there, slips it in there. But yeah,

1621
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: great tweet.

1622
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1623
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 6: You gotta love a guy that it actually says stuff

1624
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 6: on a show, though, right. I mean I remember, like

1625
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 6: we had guests all the time. I'm not going to

1626
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 6: say who it is, but I remember one time you

1627
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 6: guys were it was early in the season, and you

1628
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 6: guys were just asking this this former player, who's who's

1629
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 6: m v P this year? Who's MVP? And he wouldn't say,

1630
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 6: he would list He listed like eight or nine players.

1631
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't Magic Johnson though, it.

1632
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 6: Was not in Magic Johnson. But as soon as we

1633
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 6: were off the air, he was like.

1634
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: It's honest, it's it's gonna.

1635
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 6: Be Yeah, It's like, I couldn't you just said that

1636
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 6: on the air. You know, like nobody says anything, so

1637
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 6: love him or hate him, Kendrick. At least he's got

1638
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 6: opinions that he's and he's not shy about sharing them.

1639
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: So it's pretty incredible too, Like, uh, that he can

1640
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: go on you know, yesps, what show is he on?

1641
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: Mainly that Perks always appear what's that hoops streams and

1642
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yeah, for sure, he's like obviously making

1643
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: appearances on a lot of ESPN shows, but he can

1644
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, turn off the m rs when he's doing

1645
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: live television.

1646
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 6: And well, let's be honest, check is the same way

1647
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 6: whenever I would just shoot the ship with him. It

1648
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 6: was just like wow, Holy it took you up back

1649
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 6: because you're used to seeing him on TV and he

1650
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 6: never swears, but man, he's a he's got a bit

1651
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 6: of a bit of a salty language on him.

1652
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, all right, So Perk coming through with tweet

1653
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,879
Speaker 1: of the night. JD loving that little story there, great stuff.

1654
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: Pick him results last night, Oh guys, tough loss for

1655
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: us here on the Daily Show. We had the Suns. Okay,

1656
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: you're you're going in the Sun's one man. You just

1657
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 1: talked about it earlier. Well, they won, but they didn't

1658
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: win by two. It won by one. So Tassi swerving

1659
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: taking the Mavericks plus one and a half. That's a

1660
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: victory for him despite Dallas actually losing the game. So

1661
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,879
Speaker 1: Tasks needed this start. He's won to o here in February.

1662
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: Everybody else is one Tonight's game Clippers Nets. Okay, there's

1663
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,799
Speaker 1: I think there's six games on. We got TNT doubleheader

1664
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: Tony Clippers Nets though small line Nets favored by one

1665
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: and a half at home, difficult one here they always

1666
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: all are Lee, where are you going?

1667
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 5: You know, I have a thing that I never pick

1668
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 5: against Kevin Durant, right, but I'm going to tonight because

1669
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 5: the Clips have been just playing such great basketball, so

1670
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 5: I'll take the Clip.

1671
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: As Okay, that's a strong pick. It's obviously they're not

1672
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: even favorites in this tray. Is that a little weird?

1673
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 1: The Nets had that crazy loss to the Wizards. Scored

1674
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: a you know, ten thousand points, but gave up ten

1675
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: thousand and one, and wasn't Kyrie saying like we couldn't

1676
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't guard a stick things? Yeah, so maybe do

1677
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: they come out with any sort of defensive identity or

1678
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: intensity I should say tonight or do they just not

1679
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: have it? What do you what do you think that's

1680
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 1: favored by one and a half?

1681
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 4: Where you go, that's probably why the Nets are favored.

1682
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 4: But I'm with Lee on this one. I'm gonna go

1683
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 4: with the Clippers. They're not favored despite the fact that

1684
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 4: they've been playing really good basketball for the past couple

1685
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 4: of weeks, looking like one of the three or four

1686
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 4: best teams in the league.

1687
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: Give me La m I'll swerve tonight. I don't know

1688
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: what Task is doing. I'll take the Nets. I think

1689
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: Harden's back, right, I mean he did listen miss the

1690
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: last game versus the Wizards there in the loss. A

1691
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: lot of firepower out there tonight. If all these guys

1692
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: are playing, I actually don't know. I assume Kawhi and

1693
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 1: Paul George are playing. They have been maybe Okay, we

1694
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: will see. So I'll take the Nets to win by

1695
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: two or more. You guys got the Clippers to cover.

1696
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: Let's find out who tasts us Clippers Nets on TNT.

1697
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 6: I'll take the Clippers based on the way the Nets

1698
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 6: are playing defense recently.

1699
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: There it is all right, three of you guys going

1700
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: with the clippers on the road. I'm the only one

1701
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: swerving tonight taking the nets at home. All right, fun show,

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Speaker 1: long show. Did we anger some people? God? I hope.

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Speaker 1: So email us your questions for tomorrow's beach step in pod.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll have a whole segment of people saying, what's

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Speaker 1: up with this Leelas guy and his dumb trains? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: email those no ducks at the Athletic dot com and

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Speaker 1: You can subscribe for three ninety nine a month, so

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Speaker 1: you can go read that Cats and Schalm's article about

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Speaker 1: Bradley Beal not wanting to be traded. Le jesus man,

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy. I'm so happy.

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Speaker 5: That just proves that Beale watches the show because he

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Speaker 5: wanted to come out and emphasize I'm not looking to

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Speaker 5: be traded.

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Speaker 2: He saw all the trade packages, so that's great to know.

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Speaker 2: He's tuning in.

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Speaker 1: Hey Bradley, thanks for tuning in. Please subscribe if you

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Speaker 1: haven't already. Okay, Clipper Bros, you heard it here first.

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Speaker 1: Have a great time turn up. Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember to watch tonight Courtside Karen,

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Speaker 4: an old steroid Ass reunion show on Bravo TV ten

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Speaker 4: o'clock pm Eastern. Be sure to tune in.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the Day people.

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Speaker 6: You could stay every day, Dougie, happy, every Mandy.

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Speaker 1: It's been so long with Yourna. It's happened already. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be grivy.