1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Obviously, you know, physically he's very gifted. But I think 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: the maturity that I've seen this offseason is the way 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: he approaches the game and the way he's been studying 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: and understanding and just his vision, you know, being able 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: to see the bigger picture of things and not necessarily 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: just his one role in that particular player, whatever that 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: may be. So I think that's gonna be the main thing, 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: that maturity from off the field and how he's gonna 9 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: come into the building more prepared than than you know, 10 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: maybe in the past. 11 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, and. 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: Was yesterday, I was one hundred and fourteen receptions is 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: hard to match. But he said very very good at 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 3: intermediate stuff last year. He thinks there's more to his 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: game downfield. Potentially feel the same way. 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, But again it's like, you know, what does 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: the offense call for? If I had a crystal ball, 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: we'd love to say, yeah, it's gonna happen, But that's 19 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: the plan, I mean obviously, So it's you know, we 20 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: see the same stats you guys do, and we know 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: he can do it. He's very valuable that way. So 22 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: but like I said, it's just part of the evolution 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: of the offense. You know, kind of let that happen, 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: the let it take place kind of organically, and I 25 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: think it will. 26 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 4: He's always been a high level obviously. 27 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna where did you see him grow the 28 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: most last year? 29 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: Yea last year honestly, uh the understanding of what he 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: was about to see, you know, having the uh where, 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: the knowledge to to anticipate looks, and being able to 32 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: to do things and get himself open and and and honestly, 33 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: not only that, but just helping others and bringing. 34 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 4: Others with him. 35 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: He's you know, he's obviously one of the hardest working 36 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: guys on the team, so be just being able to 37 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: see that influence on not only our rooms but just 38 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: other guys on the team was pretty impressive. 39 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: So there's a time late last season worded about after 40 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: Christian got heard day was out, it seemed like Trevor 41 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: had to lean on Evan a lot more. How impressed 42 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: were you with how Evan handled that situation. 43 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: It's hardened. 44 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: Guy. 45 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you've been sort. 46 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: Of a compliment for a while, yeah, absolutely, And he's 47 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: always felt like the guy. You know, a lot of 48 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: these players do, honestly, it's just a matter of opportunity 49 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: of when that happens. But the great thing is is, 50 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: like what people don't see is, you know, him and 51 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: Trevor are sitting in the meeting room when after practice 52 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: suft everybody's gone and they're watching film together. So that's 53 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: really where it starts from, you know, that trust And 54 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: like I said, those are just the benefits that everybody saw, 55 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: but from all the hard work that they put in 56 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: when no one was looking and they were here in 57 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: the room by themselves and no coaches around, taking that 58 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: time to do that. So it's pretty awesome to see 59 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: that and see the results from that. 60 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 6: Which is Evan bring to the room obviously his leadership, 61 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 6: but you know, I mean he's here in ots he's 62 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 6: here working out before OTAs. Is that a huge help 63 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 6: for you to have someone like that in. 64 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 7: The room with you? 65 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 6: What do you guys? 66 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, because as a room you want to 67 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: set your standards and your culture. But it's one thing 68 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: for the coach to say it, and it's another thing 69 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: for the veteran in the room to do it. So 70 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: to me, it just it makes my job a lot easier, 71 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: but it's also just so much more influential when you 72 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: get a guy like Evan who's you know, proven playmaker, 73 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: an important role on the team, and he's willing to 74 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: do all the things that he has others to do. 75 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's obviously a huge value not only 76 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: for me in my room, but for the offense and 77 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: the team. 78 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 6: So what's the carry over been like? Obviously things didn't 79 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 6: end the way anybody wanted last season to kind of 80 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 6: turn the page, but also use that as your motivation 81 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 6: because you don't want it to repeat itself. 82 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and again it's like it's how you approach things. 83 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, we could have went through 84 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: Phase two and OTAs and and kind of just you know, 85 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: at another year type of attitude, but definitely not. Something's 86 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: got to be different. And that was our main focus 87 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: in the tight end room is you know, what are 88 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: we going to do to give ourselves an edge and 89 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: not only that, but to just take every opportunity to 90 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: try to get better. And and that's what they did. 91 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: They did a good job with that and looking forward 92 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: to that care and overhe to their training Camper. 93 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 6: Want back at page last year, what is something that 94 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 6: came and you were like, this is area number one 95 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 6: we need to addressed or. 96 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: You were talking about honestly, as a tight end room, 97 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: we definitely need to dominate the C and D gaps. 98 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: So that was probably my first thing that I told 99 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: the guys that's coming off season being able to help 100 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: the run game more than we did last year for sure. 101 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: So that's partly number one that we're gonna We're gonna 102 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: make sure we get that pick. So yeah, I would say. 103 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 8: That going into his fourth year. 104 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 7: You know, remember last year someone asked, Doug, just coming 105 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 7: from year two to your three, there's improvement now from 106 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 7: your or from your three to or four. 107 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: What's the improvement you'd like to see from him? 108 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 9: Well, I think if you see what he's done out 109 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 9: there this offseason program, he's done a phenomenal job of 110 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 9: running the show. And I think right his biggest thing 111 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 9: this offseason was really getting to know his new teammates. 112 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 9: I think you could see the progress he made the 113 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 9: last two years in our system and just how comfortable 114 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 9: he was of doing, you know, running the show last 115 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 9: year and. 116 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: Getting us in and out of plays. 117 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 9: And the big thing is is the key this offseason 118 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 9: was really with the new players of just really learning, 119 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 9: you know, how you know, and just really talking with 120 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 9: these guys and how he wants them. 121 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: To run routes and you. 122 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 9: Know, certain adjustments he's going to make and little just 123 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 9: little things we've worked on, you know that we've talked 124 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 9: about about, you know, how he can play better, you know, 125 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 9: come up. 126 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: This year. 127 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 6: Done talked a little bit about kind of making that 128 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 6: transition for Trevor of going from learning, but now he's practicing, right, 129 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 6: he knows it, Like the back of the sandwich is 130 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 6: what you want in a quarterback. Do you feel he's 131 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 6: made that jump effectively and he can kind of become 132 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 6: that person that when anybody else comes to him, he 133 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 6: already knows what's going on. 134 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, he's Trevor's really I mean, all the quarterbacks I 135 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 9: think have done a great job this offseason. You know, 136 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 9: obviously Cjy and Trevor have been in it from day 137 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 9: one with us, but Trevor's done a phenomenal job of 138 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 9: just really going out there. 139 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: And you know, leading the team. 140 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 9: And it's you the more you play in the same 141 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 9: system with the same teammates, it's a lot easier to 142 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 9: go out there. The first year you look at it 143 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 9: and it's you know, you're not. You're learning the system 144 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 9: and you may not be executing like you know in 145 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 9: the off season. You look get the first off season 146 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 9: program and you want to say certain things, but you 147 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 9: might be making a few mistakes and you're not comfortable 148 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 9: or you may not be sure of all the little 149 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 9: details of everything because you're still learning. And now you 150 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 9: look at the year three and now he knows he's 151 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 9: like another coach on the field, and you see him really, 152 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 9: you know, whether it's in meetings or maybe just be 153 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 9: sitting downstairs in a general conversation. Something comes up with somebody, 154 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 9: whether it's sitting at eating someone might come up and 155 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 9: ask a question and it's just so easy for him 156 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 9: to spit. 157 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: Out the answer. 158 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 9: And that's the way it's been, you know, through practice 159 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 9: of if a formation might come up and he might 160 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 9: say something to Press about, hey can I run it 161 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 9: out of this, and it's just so easy for him 162 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 9: to change because he might want to see Gabe run 163 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 9: a certain route instead of have you know, he might 164 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 9: know how Christian runs this route, so he wants to 165 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 9: switch him to learn just to kind of see how 166 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 9: that his. 167 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: New teammate runs it. And it's been ready to see. 168 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 8: As much as you. 169 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: Want to rush that, you just can't rush that process, 170 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: can with I mean, you can't get there first year 171 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: in system, you know. 172 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 9: What you're talking about, but there's just so many things 173 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 9: and you know that that's when you first come into 174 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 9: a system. You run certain play and I tell like, 175 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 9: I'd say the same thing to Mac today. It's it's like, Okay, 176 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 9: if there's something you're not comfortable with, come the first 177 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 9: preseason game, tell us let's run the things that you 178 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 9: really feel confident. And the first year here with Trevor 179 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 9: and CJ here, it's like, okay, hey, listen, we're gonna 180 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 9: be calling plays and you're gonna see it. We're practicing 181 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 9: against a certain coverage, and then all of a sudden 182 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 9: you get to the game as something completely different. That's 183 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 9: on me as a coach. We didn't practice against certain coverages, 184 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 9: so you may not see it as quickly as you know, 185 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 9: or you're in a progression you may not get you 186 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 9: reset and get to the backside as quick as you'd 187 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 9: like to, and then all of a sudden, you run 188 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 9: those plays against the same coverage over and over again. 189 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 9: You know, after from year one to year two, now 190 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 9: we're in year three. There's not a lot of things 191 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 9: that may surprise them anymore. And you know in there, 192 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 9: don't get me wrong, during the season, we're going to 193 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 9: play a new coordinator. There's gonna be some things that 194 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 9: are different. They're gonna make changes, and they're gonna try 195 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 9: to you know, play differently against. 196 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: Us, and uh, you know, protection issues, things like that. 197 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 9: But just the more you're in a system, the easiers 198 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 9: is do all those things. 199 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 7: What is it for him? The inside outside versatility that 200 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 7: maybe last year with the cast of wide receivers that 201 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 7: were here, maybe that creates even more opportunity. 202 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, just being able to handle it mentally creates the opportunity. Now, 203 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: whether he's you know, best outside, inside or both, we're 204 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: still figuring that out, just. 205 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 8: Giving them opportunities and everyone in every way we can. 206 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 2: But again, we're able to do that because of this 207 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: ability to retain all the improviation. So he's moved really 208 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: fast in that aspect and so now it's just you know, 209 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: taking advantage of all the time we have on the 210 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: field to put him in those positions and see what. 211 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 8: He can do for it. 212 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 7: At what point did you find out Gabe Davis was 213 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 7: on his way to Jacksonville. 214 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 8: That's probably his first call. 215 00:08:59,160 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 7: You know. 216 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 8: We were lucky to have spent time together in Buffalo. 217 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 8: Drafted him up there. 218 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: Another guy he's him and v Trre definitely the two 219 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 2: smartest guys, you know, as rookies that. 220 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 8: I've had in my young career coaching. So he's he's 221 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 8: been a sponge as well as he's easy. He was 222 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,479 Speaker 8: easy to teach. 223 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: The offense too, and now he's just in his way 224 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: leading the group even though he's you know, coming back. 225 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 8: From insurance Brian, that blend of size and speed. 226 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 10: Just how much can he threaten defenses just by being 227 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 10: on the field. 228 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 8: You can't. I mean you'll see it. 229 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: I Mean it's almost like he's guy like that little 230 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 2: Mike Vickson' drome where he's running but he doesn't look 231 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: like he's running fast. 232 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: But he is a movie you know. 233 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: So uh, I just told him, you know, Trevor a 234 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: couple first couple of practices, we had a couple of 235 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: go balls thrown and he either you know, caught it 236 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: back shoulder, had to slow down a little bit, and 237 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: I just told him. 238 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 8: Go tell Trevor to try to outthrow it. 239 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: Yet I'll see if we can do that, see if 240 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: he can do that. But you see it in college 241 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: faces everything down, he's. 242 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 3: Fast and dogs mentioned it, but I guess his rout 243 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: running because that's nothing. 244 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't get enough credit for coming out of college. 245 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: I don't think they asked him to do too much. 246 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's something we work on every day after releases, 247 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: we're out running his breakpoint mechanics. He can bend well 248 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: for a bigger guy. It's just trying to put it 249 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: all together. 250 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 8: So we're working on that speech. 251 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: It's just exposing him to more things. 252 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 8: Basically didn't went to college. 253 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're giving more opportunities, but you know, 254 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: also perfecting his craft. 255 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 8: I think you know, at this level, it's just. 256 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: More intense every part of every step he takes after 257 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 2: the ball snap? 258 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 10: How much how much conversation was there before the first 259 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 10: odate of saying we're gonna get this guy, We're gonna 260 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 10: throw him in there on deep routes, and because we're 261 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 10: seeing it, like every ot, we're seeing these him Brian 262 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 10: getting these deep routes thrown his way. 263 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 8: Sorry, I'm confused on your question. What's your question? I'm sorry? 264 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 6: How much. 265 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 10: How much was a concerted effort to say, we're gonna 266 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 10: we're gonna take this guy first round, picking his throw 267 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 10: him in the mix, and see what he's got from 268 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 10: a deep ball standpoint, which is, you know, what was 269 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 10: his calling card in college, like see it at the NFL. 270 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's transitioned over well. I 271 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: mean he can track the ball well, he sees the 272 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: ball well downfield, he can chase it down. 273 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 8: He has good body. 274 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: Flexibility where he can turn for back shoulders. So I 275 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: think that part of his game we knew we had, 276 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's really developing. The other part of 277 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: his game is intermediate route running, his releases, and again, 278 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: like he likes to work, he likes to learn, he 279 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: likes to get better. So he's been he's been fun 280 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: to coach so far. 281 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 7: One thing we've heard from Doug and from Press is 282 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 7: the need to simplify the offense from a year ago. 283 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 7: How would you describe that process over the last two months. 284 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 7: I know Press used the terms that it was ripped 285 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 7: down to the studs the offenses. 286 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we kind of wanted to see who we are 287 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: and how can we be best offensively? And then focus 288 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: on our strengths and get better and better and better 289 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: at them. I think PRESS does a great job, you know, 290 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 2: making the offense easy to learn, putting everything in families. 291 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 8: But it's been great. 292 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: I mean, we're just getting reps after reps after reps, 293 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 2: putting people in different positions, and. 294 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: It's been great. 295 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 7: Did it feel like, you know, there's a lot of 296 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 7: changing plays, alerts to the line. Did it feel like, 297 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 7: especially down the stretch of last season, that maybe that's 298 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 7: what complicated the offense at times? 299 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about that, you know, I think you'd 300 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: have to ask the players more about that. 301 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 8: But you know, that's our job. That's that's the player's job. 302 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 8: We teach it from day one. 303 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: Again, like you're talking about different kills, different alerts, different checks. 304 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 8: So that's UH. 305 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, coaches our responsibility to 306 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: give to the players, and the players have you know, 307 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: they have a job to do and it's their responsibility 308 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: to get the plays and if we change them at 309 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, they know what to do. 310 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 8: They just need to run the playoff. 311 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 11: The defensive line as a whole, UH does a good 312 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 11: job of connecting with one another and helping each other 313 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 11: with UH, with that, and and at the end of 314 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 11: the day, you know, Mitch is at a point in 315 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 11: his career where he's still playing really good football, but 316 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 11: he could help younger players develop, not. 317 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 4: Just Luke, but Cooper. 318 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 11: Hodges and UH and Vaughn and and Stephen Jones and 319 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 11: the young guys. I think that they a guy like 320 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 11: Mitch really helps UH bring the unit together even more so, 321 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 11: I don't you know, Luke has handled this like a pro. 322 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 11: He's done a great job. And and we all have 323 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 11: to play better, you know, we all have to do 324 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 11: a better job coaching playing. 325 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 4: For us to be successful. 326 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 11: So it was good to bring Mitch in and his 327 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 11: leadership and whatnot. But we all we all know that 328 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 11: we got to do things the right way. 329 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 5: About his Walker a little and kind of the contract 330 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 5: year hasn't really had a shot at really locking up 331 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 5: a starting job. 332 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 4: As tough is it for Walker in the spot. 333 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 11: You know, Walker, Walker's done a great job with the 334 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 11: role he's been asked to do. But since I've been here, Uh, 335 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 11: but that doesn't mean that the competition is locked up 336 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 11: in any way, shape or form for this upcoming year. 337 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: He's done an excellent job. 338 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 11: In OTAs so is so is uh, so is Cam 339 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 11: and Anton really hasn't done much just because of what's 340 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 11: been going on with him. So he's been he's been 341 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 11: getting a lot of reps and showing what he can do. 342 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 11: And you know, Walker has uh has played a lot 343 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 11: of positions for us and and to his credit, he's 344 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 11: he's handled that like a pro. But we're excited for 345 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 11: the direction of where he's going because he is a 346 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 11: really good football player. 347 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: And Uh, once we. 348 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 11: Can get him settled in and playing one spot more, 349 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 11: I think he's going to take off. 350 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 5: He seemed like Rodgers was really heading in the right 351 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 5: direction last year. Injury kind of derailed him for a minute, 352 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 5: picked up where he left off. 353 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 11: Coop has done a really nice job coming back. I 354 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 11: think that the first week or two he was a 355 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 11: little bit how's my knee going, where's my knee going? 356 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: Kind of thing? 357 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 11: And now he's really Uh, he's in a position where 358 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 11: he's playing some pretty good football. We've we've moved him around. 359 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 11: He's playing both guard positions in center and he's playing 360 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 11: some confidence and he's doing some good things. 361 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 5: So he's working at center because that that's new for him, 362 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 5: he's played all over the line. He hasn't played center 363 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 5: before the West year. 364 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 11: If you if you're not a starter on the interior line, 365 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 11: you got to play center. So I mean in order 366 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 11: to get a jersey on game day, because I mean 367 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 11: just with the way the injuries and different things, I mean, 368 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 11: he's got it. So he's he's he's taken that role 369 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 11: and kind of runs it a little bit. 370 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: So it's been from the watchout to try to get. 371 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 8: To make sure. 372 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 6: I think we'll see a different Ezra Cleveland. Like obviously 373 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 6: to come in in the middle of the season kind 374 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 6: of you thrown in there, I know'd some injuries as well. 375 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 6: Do you feel like we'll see a lot more from 376 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 6: him this year? 377 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think. 378 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 11: I think that Ezra came in and he was he 379 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 11: was a little banged up, and then it kind of 380 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 11: a couple of things snowball on him. But I think 381 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 11: that he's right now looking as good as I've ever 382 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 11: seen him. And uh, I mean I was with him 383 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 11: in Minnesota for a couple of. 384 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 4: Years and he was playing some really good football we 385 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 4: were there, and. 386 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 11: I think that he he's to a point now where 387 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 11: he's going to play some really. 388 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 12: Good football game. 389 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 7: One of the things that I mentioned that you want 390 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 7: to accomplish here in OTAs was that the O line 391 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 7: have one heartbeat. 392 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 13: Do you feel like the on line will be able 393 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 13: to accomplish. 394 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 7: That your OTA? 395 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that that is OTAs wrap up. I 396 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 11: think the camaraderie, ship, the unit play and whatnot have 397 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 11: really uh uh. 398 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: Moved forward. But I think that like training camps, the 399 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 4: true test. 400 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 11: I think that that you get you're in pajamas in OTAs. 401 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 11: I mean, you can't. You can't hit anybody, really, you can't. 402 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 11: When you put on the pads. That's when you develop 403 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 11: a heartbeat. That's when you develop identity. And we got 404 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 11: we we have to do a better job for me 405 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 11: an identity we got. We got to be a unit 406 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 11: that is respected and months the league. And I think 407 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 11: Mitch comes from a unit that's like that manual. And 408 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 11: I think that that's what he's getting at when he 409 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 11: makes a comment like that, is that we have the 410 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 11: opportunity to start of who we're going to be, but 411 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 11: that ends in February, so we can build through. 412 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 6: There a way to build that effectively with the entire line, 413 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 6: because obviously you get five people working together, but to 414 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 6: have so that if one person does go down, maybe 415 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 6: it's not as difficult to kind of get back to 416 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 6: where they were at their best form. 417 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 11: I think that, yeah, I yes, and but I think 418 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 11: that there is a way, and I think that as 419 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 11: we go forward, we're playing people at other positions that 420 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 11: they're uncomfortable with, so that if there are things that 421 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 11: happen like what happened last year where we just had 422 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 11: injuries to kind of. 423 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: Just snowball on one another. 424 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 11: People are not doing things for the first time in 425 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 11: a game where that they've they've experienced it in O ta's, 426 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 11: they'll experience it in training camp. And that's what Doug 427 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 11: has really done with the There is no depth chart. 428 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 11: I mean, if you went out and saw the offensive 429 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 11: line they went out there at practice today, the five 430 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 11: guys who started were five different guys at five different 431 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 11: spots have never done like and that's how training, that's 432 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 11: how OTAs has been. I mean, we've just been shuffling 433 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 11: the board to make sure that, like we're finding out 434 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 11: who could do what the best of different spots, and 435 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 11: that's so that if there's anything that were to happen 436 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 11: where we we snowball and we end up having to 437 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 11: play as many combinations as we did last year. It's 438 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 11: not uh as much shocking on as it was. 439 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 4: When you talk about your rookies so far, they're great. 440 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 8: Their rookies, they're uh, they're they're learning. 441 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 442 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 11: We had to teach them who was in the division 443 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 11: that was that was, We had to teach them what 444 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 11: the AFC and NFC was. That was new for me. 445 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 11: They're learning, So it's no, they're good. Vaughn's been great. 446 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 11: Vaughn's been been really studying. He's been playing both tackle spots. 447 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 11: He's been doing a really nice job. And then Steven, Yeah, 448 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 11: Steven's got a chance of. 449 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 4: Being pretty good football player. 450 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 11: He's a solid inside guard. He's a little heavy right now. 451 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 11: He's just got to cut some weight. I think up 452 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 11: in Oregon he packed on some pounds. They call him 453 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 11: Grizzly Bear, so he had to stay warm up there. 454 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 11: He can lose a couple of pounds of training camp 455 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 11: down here and it'll be fine. 456 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 7: Obviously we're here last year. But when you guys have 457 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 7: sat down and looked at where the run beam struggles 458 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 7: occurred last year, where do you change things? Perhaps from 459 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 7: a running backs perspective. 460 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 8: To improve that in twenty. 461 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 12: Twenty four, I think just being more intentional about talking 462 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 12: to the final details of playing at the running back position, 463 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 12: like I said before, pressing the heels at the offense 464 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 12: of line and make sure we do a great job 465 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 12: of delivering those blocks when we're supposed to, making sure 466 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 12: that you know, we're supposed to be as far as 467 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 12: tracks so those line and you know, can actually make 468 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 12: it get to that second level that will help our 469 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 12: line up front tremendously. I think you talking about a 470 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 12: lot of yards left on the table just cause those 471 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 12: guys were predetermining some of the runs last year based 472 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 12: off maybe successes that they had or just not a 473 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 12: trust level that they had sometimes uh a front And 474 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 12: that's one thing we've been talking about as we you know, 475 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 12: watched the field from last year, as we go out 476 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 12: there and practice right now. 477 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 13: I appreciated to meet you, Carry pleasure, welcome to Jacksonville. 478 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 13: Of course, I know limited film study when it comes 479 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 13: to Tank, but when you evaluated him as a rookie, uh, 480 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 13: what did you see? And you know, do you feel 481 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 13: that two point six yards to carry an automat is fixable? 482 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: Heading into this year. I really do. You know, obviously 483 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 4: I remember Tank when he was at Auburn. 484 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 9: Uh. 485 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 12: Just having the chance to watch him play a lot 486 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 12: through crossover film more than anything else. And you know, uh, 487 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 12: that's not the same guy sought weekend a week out 488 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 12: when I was turning the film in Jacksonville. Uh, I 489 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 12: think a lot of that is fixable. To be honest 490 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 12: with you, I think, you know, getting used to the 491 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 12: speed of the was all new to him. Just understanding 492 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 12: the final points of the offense was also something that 493 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 12: he needed to improve. And he's he's tact at this offseason. 494 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 8: He's Yeah. 495 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 13: I spoke with him last week and I really enjoy 496 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 13: He seems like a young, intelligent guy. There's some sort 497 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 13: of a perception that he's not always focused because of 498 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 13: some plays that he made last year that came back 499 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 13: and hurt the team. Your opinion on him, you know, 500 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 13: classroom work, not only on the practice field, but just 501 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 13: him in general. 502 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 4: What type of worker is? 503 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 12: Yeah, I've been extremely impressed by his work and how 504 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 12: your taxed every day. You know, you talk about coming 505 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 12: in the meeting and he's asking questions. He's learned some 506 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 12: things that he really didn't know before, and I think 507 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 12: that's really good as well, But it's really about him 508 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 12: getting intentional as far as making sure you understood this 509 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 12: is different in college. And like I said before, like 510 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 12: he was always the guy, you know, whether his high school, 511 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 12: whether it was college, he was the number one guy. 512 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 12: You know, everybody leaned on Tank. And then he comes 513 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 12: into this situation and he's kind of the he's the 514 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 12: rookie again and he's the freshman again, and he has 515 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 12: to kind of start from scratch, and there was some 516 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 12: growing things like it is with anybody that's new coming 517 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 12: in the door. And I think that's the one thing 518 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 12: he's learned and he understands that he has to go 519 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 12: about and fix it. He has done it on the 520 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 12: field this offseason, like the way he goes out there 521 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 12: and prepares like he is. He eliminated a lot of 522 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 12: his busts and missed the signics. If we all that. 523 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 13: Talks about Truvor and this you know, passing offense. I 524 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 13: don't think you can win in this league unless you 525 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 13: can run the football. And obviously, even though Travis went 526 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 13: over a thousand yards last year, things were not the 527 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 13: way they were in twenty twenty two. Just your group 528 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 13: and what you have the ability to be able to 529 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 13: turn that around this year. 530 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think we all need one another. I think 531 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 12: Travis Lee's tank. I think tanks leave bearnest. I think 532 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 12: those guys more than anything else because they've had experience 533 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 12: playing in this league and obviously Travis has had a 534 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 12: lot of success. But if we're gonna try to make 535 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 12: a run of this thing, we got to make sure 536 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 12: that Travis is healthy down the stretch, and the tank 537 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 12: is a big part of that. I do think he 538 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 12: can be a really high caliber back in this league 539 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 12: as well, you know, especially now going forward, he's had 540 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 12: a year to sit back and kind of see, uh 541 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 12: he's got his feet wet a little bit with about 542 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 12: fifty carriages or so. But I do think that, like 543 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 12: going forward, like that room right there, they're gonna all 544 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 12: need one another because it's a long season and and 545 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 12: the wear and tear on their body sometimes, uh, you know, 546 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 12: it catches up to you. 547 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 13: Thanks sharing, It's not no problem. 548 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 5: Thank you. 549 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 6: Kill you Now you're kind of the new face on 550 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 6: this side of the All right, so how's the transition 551 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 6: been to to the program and joining the stuff. 552 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 4: It's been good. 553 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 12: You know these guys that they joke with you a 554 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 12: lot cause you know the new guy now only a 555 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 12: new guy on this side, but also to new guy 556 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 12: in the league as well. So, uh, it's been fun. 557 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 12: But you know, just got a lot of you know, 558 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 12: good smart coaches, uh that I can lean on, like 559 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 12: Coach McCoy, Coach Prince and those guys out there. Feel 560 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 12: like they all try to give us great advice and 561 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 12: into the little things that is different about the National 562 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 12: Football League of College. 563 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: How how do you. 564 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 6: Feel like your coaching south fits really well here? Obviously 565 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 6: the way you've coached throughout your career at different places, 566 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 6: different stops you've had, how you how do you translate 567 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 6: it here? And what are the players kind of seeing 568 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 6: from you so much? 569 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's cool because you know, coach twenty 570 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 12: years in college and I've coached so many multiple positions. 571 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 12: I get a chance to give these guys a different 572 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 12: viewpoint from a quarterback perspective, from a receiver perspective when 573 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 12: they're flexed out. I think that kind of comes out 574 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 12: in the way I coach. When you talk about just 575 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 12: trying to compare different learning styles as well, because you 576 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 12: go to college, you don't always get the five star players. 577 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 12: You get guys from all the different backgrounds. They want 578 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 12: all draft picks or how you end players. So it's 579 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 12: been fun just to kind of listen to those guys. 580 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 12: And one of the first things I did was ask 581 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 12: them what they need from me, you know, individually, what 582 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 12: do they all need? So just taking that information and 583 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 12: then applying it every day as we go into the 584 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 12: clayss room. 585 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 4: We went into the field as well. 586 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 6: How do you kind of build that trust? Obviously it 587 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 6: was a tough finish for them here, you know, just 588 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 6: the losing streak and whatnot. It was tough for them 589 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 6: to go into the offseason. How do you kind of 590 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 6: build that because you need that going into the section year. 591 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's about consistency. I think the trust 592 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 12: is build consistency. And we're still building the trust because 593 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 12: we have to have I think, to get the the 594 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 12: ultimate trust that you need that to face a little adversity. 595 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 12: You know, it's not gonna always be roses. It's gonna 596 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 12: be times where they come back to the sideline and 597 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 12: and it didn't work out like they sin they're supposed to. 598 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 12: Right now, it's the time which is just kind of 599 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 12: trying to stay consistent in the process as far as 600 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 12: how you're teaching them, you know, getting to know them, 601 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 12: they getting to know you, building that just current relationship 602 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 12: so when you do following those hard times, you're able 603 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 12: to overcome 'em with the cho you know, the relationship 604 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 12: that you're built. 605 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 6: Tell us things going with try bess, Like, what's maybe 606 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 6: the next step you see for him? Is it getting 607 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 6: involved in the passing game a little more? Is it consistency, Like, 608 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 6: what's something you guys are kind of working towards right now? 609 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think one like you you know, you mentioned 610 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 12: it getting involved more in the past game is extremely 611 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 12: important and uh, you know he's open to that. You know, 612 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 12: he wants to be flexed out more. He wants to 613 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 12: catch more balls out the backfield. 614 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 7: Uh. 615 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 12: I think the next part is making sure he understands, 616 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 12: you know, the the finer points of running in between 617 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 12: the tackles. 618 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 5: Uh. 619 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 12: He has to become a better in between the table runner. 620 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 12: And that's a toughness thing and that's a mindset more 621 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 12: than anything. And if he stays healthy, like that's gonna 622 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 12: be really more consistent for him. That's why we need 623 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 12: Tank to make sure that you know they can be 624 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 12: the one two combination plans that you really want. 625 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 6: Is that hard to work that combo correctly? Cause obviously 626 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 6: you want to use Travis aspunch as you can, but 627 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 6: Tank needs is reps as well to kind of play 628 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 6: that little tango with the two of them. 629 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 12: Is that difficulvid, Nah, It's not as difficult as it 630 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 12: it seems. You know, I did. I did it the 631 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 12: Tennessee for the last two years, To be honest with you, 632 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 12: we had a really good combination of a jailing writing 633 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 12: and you know, Jabari Smalls. 634 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 4: That was really productive. 635 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 12: So I'm kind of used to playing you know, both 636 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 12: of those guys, you know what, they need the hot 637 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 12: hand obviously gonna backs to get in the rhythm. So 638 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 12: it may be some games where a tang is really 639 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 12: good and maybe some games where Travis is really good. 640 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 12: I think that's what we're trying to get it to. 641 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 12: When we can have the ultimate tru ultimate trust and 642 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 12: both of those guys going through that. 643 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 6: Do you feel like Tank's at a point where he 644 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 6: can do that now? Obviously after a rookie season. Is 645 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 6: it's sometimes tough? He said, to always trust the rookie, 646 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 6: So you feel like he's at a point. 647 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 8: Where he can be there. 648 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think I think he's working there. Uh, and 649 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 12: we're there yet. No, it's not a fished product by 650 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 12: no stretching imagination. But I do think he understands what 651 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 12: he has to do to earn our trust. He understands 652 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 12: what he has to do to earn uh the respect 653 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 12: of his teammates and and everybody understands he he's the talent. 654 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 12: He has to stack days consistently on top of one another, 655 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 12: and we talk about that a lot.