WEBVTT - “Big Breaks Part 1”

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to those amigos.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to to amigos.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, ready boom, What are you sapping on there? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>You know a little?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know that today felt like a cup of

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<v Speaker 3>teach today? I started my day super early today.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your car time today?

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<v Speaker 1>So today I didn't have to be on set, but

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<v Speaker 1>I started.

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<v Speaker 3>I did a workout in the morning, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>had a couple of little things that I had to do,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I had a bunch of meetings, a comting

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<v Speaker 3>for some top brass help for the company as we're

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<v Speaker 3>expanding some other ways, you know, so where I have

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<v Speaker 3>meetings like back to back to back all day today

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just and you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw my voices a little rasping.

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<v Speaker 2>It just ended down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I didn't realize that it just kept going today

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<v Speaker 3>and so it was a really long day, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was It was nice.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was your day?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do today? Good?

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<v Speaker 2>Same? Some exercise, some uh you know stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>At the house. I work on the blutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Glutes. No, No, today's Monday, right, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the chest day, the chest yeah, chest.

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<v Speaker 2>What time does your workout start in the morning?

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<v Speaker 3>It depends on the cold time. Like if I if

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<v Speaker 3>I have a seven a m. Cold time, I try

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<v Speaker 3>to get in there at four thirty am. Wow, four,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and that's more often than none. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 3>I for thirty in the morning, I get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>If I have a late call, I'll work out like eight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I try to sleep in a little bit and spend

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<v Speaker 3>a little of time in a cano.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe take her as cool if I can. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>then it worked out. But you work out in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning till you get out of the way. You do

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<v Speaker 1>it like whenever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, a little later in the afternoon. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Morning is like coffee, meditation, you know, prayer, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I try to get that in first then and you

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<v Speaker 3>do prayer home or you do go somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you go? Do you go to church on

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<v Speaker 1>the weekends? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here and there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I guess we'll talk about where they're yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because I've been looking for church. Well, it

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<v Speaker 3>leads us perfectly into our theme of this episode. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we we in the last couple of episodes, we took

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of time to understand one another in levels

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<v Speaker 3>that we hadn't before. Kind of go back to who

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<v Speaker 3>our families really were before we were any possibility. We

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<v Speaker 3>went right into how we became not just a possibility,

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<v Speaker 3>but then the operating in the environment in which we

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<v Speaker 3>grew up, the sacrifices some of our parents have to

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<v Speaker 3>make for us to kind of have a notion that

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<v Speaker 3>we can do a little bit or go a little

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<v Speaker 3>farther than they did. And you know, now we enter

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<v Speaker 3>like a realm of like, how do we get here?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? How do we get here as actors? How do

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<v Speaker 1>we get here? As in retainers?

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<v Speaker 3>It's individuals who like, you know, when you do all

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<v Speaker 3>the odds and you do the math, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>had no business making it this far. You got that right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess the big question is like, what was

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<v Speaker 3>that first job that that you're like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>got one.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a funny story before well it, let me

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<v Speaker 2>just explain when I was. When I was like fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years old in Chicago, they used to make these

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<v Speaker 2>things called industrial films, right, So the National Heart Association

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<v Speaker 2>was doing an industrial film, I guess, so they could

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<v Speaker 2>watch it internally in the company, and I landed it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was going to make seven hundred dollars and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Yo, fourteen fifteen, seven hundred dollars. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like wow. I was already planning what I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to do with the money. And it was my

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<v Speaker 2>first time on set. And I don't it sag because

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<v Speaker 2>I was there almost like twenty four hours. It was

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<v Speaker 2>mad illegal. You know. I was a minor and I

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<v Speaker 2>should not have been there that long. But but I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like a working actor.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in front of the camera, I was acting scenes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was so excited to not only see it,

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<v Speaker 2>but to get that seven hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I waited a week, right, the seven hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>is not there. I waited two weeks or three. I

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<v Speaker 2>waited three weeks and I was like, man, the money

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't arrived yet. I said I should go to the

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<v Speaker 2>agency to see where my money is, right, And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember going to that agency and taking the elevator up,

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<v Speaker 2>and as the elevator approached the floor that the agency

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<v Speaker 2>was at, the agency was empty.

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<v Speaker 1>No bro, the chairs were on the desk. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a boiler room, man, that's like literally boiler room movement. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>They made out with my seven hundred bucks, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, wow, I'll you know, I like swore off agents.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never have an agent again. Man, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>like stick to theater in Chicago and like, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>about a year later, I got an agent and the

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<v Speaker 2>rest is history.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's my So that's my first fora and that

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<v Speaker 3>was that was your that was your Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my first Chicago agent. And then that's when

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<v Speaker 2>I signed with the big agency there Suzannai. Plus.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was going to this night class on Wednesday nights.

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<v Speaker 1>I had gone to this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you know, so when I was a little kid,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we drive down and there was a commercial

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<v Speaker 3>online and it said like are you between the agents.

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<v Speaker 1>And blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you think you got what it takes to

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<v Speaker 3>do national commercials and Saturday morning shows, then come and

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<v Speaker 3>show up to the La Ex Hilton and you know

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<v Speaker 3>you're going a lot. You do have some a panel

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<v Speaker 3>of experts are going to deem to see if you

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<v Speaker 3>got what it takes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I so I convinced my dad.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's like, hey, Dad, I heard that if

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<v Speaker 3>I do a little commercial here and there, I make

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<v Speaker 3>a little money and bring them to the house.

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<v Speaker 1>My Dad's like, okay, me is see what's up.

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<v Speaker 3>So we went over to you know, we went over

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<v Speaker 3>to the Hilton and Lax and it was like a catacle.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like that's how they got people. They threw

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<v Speaker 3>the fish net out on this radio station. People would

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<v Speaker 3>show up and their kids, you know, walk over there

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<v Speaker 3>and they walk on this plank. They get to the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the runway, they look into camera and they

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<v Speaker 3>say their name, their age, and where they're from, and

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<v Speaker 3>they turn around. And then that's what the expert needed

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<v Speaker 3>to see to gim you.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you're a store yes, that X factor right right?

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<v Speaker 2>And why you said your name?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yes for sure? No man, you I had just

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<v Speaker 1>learned to speak English. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So I get on stage and I walk down that

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<v Speaker 3>plank and I get to the front of it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, hello, my name is we mad about that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? We met about that rama. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sixteen years old and I'm from Venezuela, Columbia, Venezuelan, Colombia.

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<v Speaker 1>I turn around and I walk away.

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<v Speaker 2>But but did you feel like you had to say

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<v Speaker 2>it in a way that was like no, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>stand out, I'm gonna no.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought like, okay, they're just slating and I just

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<v Speaker 3>said that, and somehow, surprise, surprise, I had what it took.

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<v Speaker 1>You.

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<v Speaker 3>But but in my and in everyone's defense, everyone had

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<v Speaker 3>what it took. Everyone got pushed to the front of

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<v Speaker 3>the desk and then they asked you, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>here's how it works. You're gonna pay this many licessions.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it was basically going to those things

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<v Speaker 3>where they just get your money, you know, you they

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you pay for commercial slate classes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>drama classes, comedy classes, audition classes.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was this thing called Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 3>Studios, Beverly Hills Studio, and I don't even think it

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<v Speaker 3>was a perfect name. Yes, yes, Beverly Hills every pretty prestigious.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty prostigious, and you know, and and I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>think it was in Beverly Hills, you know. So so

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<v Speaker 1>my dad is like looked at the money. He's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember how much it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was something like like six hundred dollars for

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<v Speaker 3>you know, ten classes of commercial and then another three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred dollars for scene work and cole read yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>so just eleven hundred dollars damn.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro, you kidding. We weren't making that in three months.

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<v Speaker 3>But my dad found a way, you know, and borrow

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<v Speaker 3>some money and he just.

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<v Speaker 1>Put me in there, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And and I went to the school and I only

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<v Speaker 3>telling you this part of it because you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>then this teacher named Sela's Boy started teaching me for

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<v Speaker 3>free at her house on Wednesday nights, who was originally

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<v Speaker 3>a part of that part of that teacher. And she's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I like to teach you on Wednesday nights.

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<v Speaker 1>So she so I was like, oh, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>So I went and started, you know, taking classes and

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<v Speaker 3>there was like thirty year olds and twenty year olds

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<v Speaker 3>and I was sixteen and I was doing scenes with

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<v Speaker 3>so many different ages and it was like really good practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>And she introduced me to this agent, very similar situation, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and and you know this agent had these other you know,

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<v Speaker 3>small sized agency and he says, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>represent you, but I'm going to take you out of

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<v Speaker 3>some auditions and see what happens. And like, I went

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<v Speaker 3>out on one, I think one Dorito's commercial did not

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<v Speaker 3>get it, but the feedback was like, hey, pretty funny kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty funny kid. But he has an accent.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So so that's why I couldn't get the part.

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<v Speaker 3>They wanted a Latin person, but he couldn't sound right,

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<v Speaker 3>so I didn't get the part. And but then he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>let me see, I want to send you something else.

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<v Speaker 3>And then so my first thing was I know this audition.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how, but I get booked to this

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<v Speaker 3>region of commercial for a smart yellow Pages commercial, Yellow

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<v Speaker 3>Pages yellow Pages commercial and it was so California only,

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<v Speaker 3>and what's funny, It's like it was the Spanish. It

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<v Speaker 3>was for the Spanish market, for the Spanish speaking market,

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<v Speaker 3>and I go and I grabbed the Yellow Pages and

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<v Speaker 3>I look right to camera and I say the Pacific

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<v Speaker 3>Bell Smart yellow Pages.

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<v Speaker 1>But with a really strike accent.

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<v Speaker 3>The accent was crazy in English, in English, in English.

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<v Speaker 3>But the whole commercial was in Spanish, you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I had my fake mom, I had my

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<v Speaker 3>fake sister and the whole thing. I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, I'm doing it. But my whole part was

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<v Speaker 3>just like yeah. And that was my first commercial. And

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<v Speaker 3>so with that money, I got that.

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<v Speaker 1>Money and what did you make?

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<v Speaker 2>How much did you make?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was six hundred bus sixteen hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixteen hundred No.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it was sixteen hundred bucks because it was a

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<v Speaker 3>complete like buyout thing and whatever and on that and

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<v Speaker 3>so with that money was no, it was twelve hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>So with that money I paid my my Screen Actors

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<v Speaker 3>Skill member thing, and that actually I could apply now

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<v Speaker 3>and they.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, I paid my dues and I

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<v Speaker 1>became a SAG member.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course that membership was you know, we got to

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<v Speaker 3>pay a lot of money at the beginning, and and

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<v Speaker 3>so I became a SAG actor after that. What was

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<v Speaker 3>so obviously it's a journey. Yeah, right, as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>you start, like you taste blood for a second, you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh I can do this, you know, and you start editioning, addition, auditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>How long did it take until you got that one

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<v Speaker 1>gig where you were like, oh I do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow. So so after that movie I was telling

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<v Speaker 2>you about, I was doing pretty okay in Chicago. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was pounding the pavement. I think covered this in

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<v Speaker 2>the other episode. Did you know an episode of of

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<v Speaker 2>like television that was coming through Chicago at that times?

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<v Speaker 2>John Wells thing this other thing did a couple of commercials,

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<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't until I did a film called The

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<v Speaker 2>Walk in the Clouds. That was really my first first

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<v Speaker 2>movie that turned where I I got to turn pro,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And so sometimes I describe it to people like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I was kind of like Lebron or like Kobe,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just kind of went pro right after

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<v Speaker 2>high school because I never got a chance to go

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<v Speaker 2>to college yet. So that happened, you know, high school

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<v Speaker 2>was over. I was doing pretty good in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>I was booking stuff in Chicago, and everyone in my family,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much all my brothers and cousins all went to

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<v Speaker 2>college after so obviously the pressure was on for me

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<v Speaker 2>to go to college and I wanted to act, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so I you know, my dad was on me, people

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<v Speaker 2>were on me, and I was like, look, just just

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<v Speaker 2>give me a year. Okay, give me a year. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me pound the pavement. Let me see what I can

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<v Speaker 2>do with it. This year. And that year was an

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly dry year and nothing was happening. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>take this like third shift job at this like legal

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<v Speaker 2>common place, you know, working from like midnight to eight

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, and nothing was happening. And then Eventually

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, I guess it's time for me

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<v Speaker 2>to sort of wrap it up and go back to

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<v Speaker 2>school and to figure something out. And then I landed

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<v Speaker 2>an Illinois lottery commercial and I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the tide is changing. Things are picking back up. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I landed this movie called The Fence with this

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<v Speaker 2>guy Billy Worth who was in The Lost Boys, and

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<v Speaker 2>I played him when he would have flashbacks in the movie,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I landed in an indie film. Awesome,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, this is starting to work. And then Merchant

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<v Speaker 2>of Venice came through Chicago at that time. Now I

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<v Speaker 2>may be wrong, and John Ortiz may be able to

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<v Speaker 2>correct me on this, but I believe it was elaborate

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<v Speaker 2>theater production, and I believe it was John Ortez and

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<v Speaker 2>Philip Seymour Hoffman came through Chicago at the Goodman Theater

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<v Speaker 2>and they were very interested in me being in the

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<v Speaker 2>play because I was a local. Now, for those who

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, the Goodman Theater in Chicago, the good Men

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<v Speaker 2>and the stephen Wolf and those theaters are like Broadway

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<v Speaker 2>to us, right, and so I was always too young

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<v Speaker 2>to do those theaters. And I was finally at the

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<v Speaker 2>age to get to do those theaters. So I was

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<v Speaker 2>super psyched that they were that they wanted me to

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of it. Then I got an audition

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<v Speaker 2>for this twentieth Century Fox movie, A Walk Into Clouds,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was Keanu Reeves and it was Anthony Quinn

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<v Speaker 2>and it was Keanu's follow up movie to Speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my God.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they were putting me on tape in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought, well, you know, man, I'm in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, I didn't even think anything of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I went in auditioned once. I auditioned twice, like three times.

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<v Speaker 2>I auditioned in Chicago. Finally I get a call that

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to fly me out the screen test

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<v Speaker 2>at twenty century Fox in LA out of Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you been in LA before?

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<v Speaker 2>Never? Dude, Dude, I had never really even been out

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<v Speaker 2>of Chicago. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so all of a sudden, I do West Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like this nineteen year old kid. I'm staying at

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<v Speaker 2>this crazy expensive hotel over an Avenue of the Stars

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<v Speaker 2>and in Century City, you know, the Fox line is

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<v Speaker 2>over like on Pico, And they bring me on the

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<v Speaker 2>Fox lot and it was like it was the most

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<v Speaker 2>magnificent thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a magnetic saying when you're working in.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody who comes to LA when they drive to the

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<v Speaker 3>twentieth century lot, you enter those gates and as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as you're received by these massive sound stages and you

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<v Speaker 3>just know something went on in here, you know that

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<v Speaker 3>you probably grew up with.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just legend there, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>You just feel the history when you walk in, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was so taken by it all. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember going in the audition and I was like the

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<v Speaker 2>only guy auditioning and I would have like the wardrobe

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<v Speaker 2>person coming up to me and like, hey, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>let me take your measurements. And you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>like I almost had it, but I had to go

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<v Speaker 2>in and still like do the screen test. And it

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<v Speaker 2>turns out that it was just sort of like a formality,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I went in there, I screen test. They

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<v Speaker 2>were like all right, all right, thank you. They're like

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<v Speaker 2>go in the next room and go get your makeup

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<v Speaker 2>done and like.

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<v Speaker 1>Figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>And that day they told me I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, dude, well went through your mind. I was myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I was by myself, you know, I was still telling.

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<v Speaker 1>Cell phone to call anyone on cell phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I was still technically living at my parents' house, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I was like a like a snotty nose

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<v Speaker 2>theater kid from Chicago. All of a sudden, I landed

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<v Speaker 2>this gigantic movie. It was so overwhelming. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to how to process it, you know, I just

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<v Speaker 2>I just went back home and got ready and then

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<v Speaker 2>shipped off for three months by myself to go shoot

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<v Speaker 2>this movie with Canter Reaves and Anthony Quinn. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was our phone so owls follow up movie to Like

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<v Speaker 2>Water for Chocolate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, it was incredible. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>At that time, Like Water for Chocolate was the highest goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it was the highest grossing for foreign

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<v Speaker 2>film of that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was his follow up movie to it. Gean

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<v Speaker 2>Carlo Jannini played my dad, which is a legendary Italian

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<v Speaker 2>actor on Helicott. I go on all of these wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>actresses from Mexico City and then the crew was all

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<v Speaker 2>from Mexico City, right. So uh. Emmanuel Lubeski five times

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar winning DP was this was his first American movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Achievo as we call him. Shout out to the Chievo.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes, of course, I mean the guy. He's the man. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's like a legendary guy. He's impossible to have

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting with him right now, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, Yeah, after those five oscars, Yes, sitting on his desk.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I remember I phone so Al going like,

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<v Speaker 2>you see that guy that's in Chievo Man, we call

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<v Speaker 2>him the boy wonder. He must have only been a

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<v Speaker 2>few years older than me. Man, he looked so young,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And the B camera operator on that movie

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<v Speaker 2>was Rodrigo Garcia, who is a wonderful film and television director.

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<v Speaker 2>He eventually became one of six feet under his most

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<v Speaker 2>prominent directors. He was the showrunner on In Treatment on HBO.

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<v Speaker 2>But he it was the B camera operator, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were all like kids. They were all just so happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be there. And it was the first time I

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<v Speaker 2>had gotten like the taste of what the film community

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<v Speaker 2>must have been like in Mexico City. Even when we

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<v Speaker 2>were filming the movie. I remember one time our phone

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<v Speaker 2>Soo says, Hey, I want you to meet somebody man.

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<v Speaker 2>He just directed this movie called I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>called Little Women, and it was our phone Quarn and

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<v Speaker 2>he had come from Mexico City to come and hang

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<v Speaker 2>out with all his guys, you know, on the set.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. So I didn't really understand what I was

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing at that time. You know, I was just a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I was nineteen. I was just happy to be there

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<v Speaker 2>and I was there with like a ton of legends

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>And he goes, tell you how long they've been doing

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<v Speaker 3>it too? Yeah, you know what I mean, you think

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<v Speaker 3>about how long they've been on that same grind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get the part and you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, uh, like what now, Like so when do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to shoot?

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<v Speaker 2>After you got the pall Like immediately it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a week or two later, they were like

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<v Speaker 2>get on the plane and.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't even go back to Chicago. Did you go back? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I went back to Chicago a couple of bags.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a bag for the month.

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<v Speaker 2>WK. Yeah. But I had to make like this crucial decision,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because like they wanted me at Merchant of Venice.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was giving up this dream to do a

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<v Speaker 2>play at the Goodman Theater. So I had to choose

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<v Speaker 2>between school because my dad was like, you gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>to school Merchant of Venice to give up a dream

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<v Speaker 2>to do that or to go pro and to and

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<v Speaker 2>to take the movie. And so I I took the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the best decision I ever made.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, what so what? What was that first day? Unsaid?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you rolled up to a real movie set and you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Seeing all these actors you've seen before, and the camera's

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<v Speaker 3>there and you've been doing your lines the night before,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you what can and what?

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember feeling relaxed, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, yeah, must be nice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe because you know, I was like

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<v Speaker 2>a cocky like Chicago kid, you know me, I probably

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<v Speaker 2>got it, Yeah, but it was more like I know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm going on there to like do what I do,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And I was super relaxed, and the folks

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<v Speaker 2>was awesome and everybody was so cool, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>think maybe that was why I felt so relaxed. Because

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<v Speaker 2>Keanu Reeves first of all, like everything that you hear

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<v Speaker 2>about him is absolutely true. Man. I mean, he's probably

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<v Speaker 2>one of the nicest guys I've ever worked with in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. I mean, to this day, every time I

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<v Speaker 2>see him, it's like we're right back to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that time. And it was I mean this was right

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<v Speaker 2>after speed Man. He was the biggest superstar.

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<v Speaker 1>Biggest heart throw too.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, huge, huge man, but the nicest guy and just understood.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were like the two youngest guys on set,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I think he was like thirty and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like nineteen. Everybody else was older than us, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think that we related on that level. But

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<v Speaker 2>he made me feel so welcomed and was so incredibly

0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.000
<v Speaker 2>nice to me. And so it was our fon So

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<v Speaker 2>and John Carlo and everybody. It just it just became

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<v Speaker 2>like this instant family right away, which lent itself.

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<v Speaker 1>To the energy on that screen too. Yeah, absolutely absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>that's unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then they get to work with Anthony Quinn right,

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<v Speaker 2>which which was you know, I didn't appreciate it at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, Like I almost wish I was older because Anthony.

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<v Speaker 2>I was excited to work with the guy from speed

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<v Speaker 2>right where Anthony was a legend obviously, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was more like our dad's generation, right like I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was still a kid, and I didn't appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a privilege. I mean, I had a run in

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<v Speaker 3>with Anthony Quinn when I was nineteen years old, myself,

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<v Speaker 3>did you Yeah, I didn't. I didn't work with him.

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<v Speaker 3>But we were at the Hispanic Heritage Words in Washington,

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<v Speaker 3>d C. At Theaet Center.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a really crazy story, a really funny story.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we save it for another opiod. That's a very

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<v Speaker 1>good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh well, you know it makes me reflect on, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that feeling. You kind of took me back to that

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<v Speaker 3>wondrous feeling where you're like had the audacity of.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking that like I got this. I'm waiting for you

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<v Speaker 1>to say action.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, like the world where you have this confidence,

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<v Speaker 3>this level of confidence that is so unaware or not

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<v Speaker 3>just the environment, but the people that are in that

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<v Speaker 3>environment that have earned it longer than you, and you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of almost have to have that yeah, right, like

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna almost have to not do the math and

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<v Speaker 3>just do it, you know, right, because I remember my

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<v Speaker 3>biggest break came, you know, at you know, at a

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<v Speaker 3>moment where in my life where I felt certain deficately

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<v Speaker 3>we needed it the most, right my I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>talked in the last episode where my dad's mask that

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<v Speaker 3>was was stolen.

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<v Speaker 1>I made my dad this promise, like I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be this actor.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna make this money and I was going

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<v Speaker 3>to have restaurants and have all these things. And you

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<v Speaker 3>know that we're never gonna have to pay rent again,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we're not gonna have it have to

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<v Speaker 3>worry about that stuff. And you know, and I and

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<v Speaker 3>my dad said okay, may you can do that. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like he gave me permission to do it. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, great, now I know I can go

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<v Speaker 3>ahead full thrott over this thing. My dad was probably

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<v Speaker 3>being like okay to me, Oh, you know, do what

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<v Speaker 3>you want to do is okay. You know, like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he understood the magnitude of what he had

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<v Speaker 3>unlocked in me. And I was doing like his belief

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<v Speaker 3>in you yes for me. I looked at us like

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<v Speaker 3>he saw me.

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<v Speaker 1>He said. I told him I was going to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>He believes I can do it, and he told me

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead and do it. And that's how I took it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I was doing a lot of theater

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<v Speaker 3>in high school, you know, because you know that was

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<v Speaker 3>like my obsession and learning how to speak English, was

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<v Speaker 3>getting on stage and we're doing stage over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>And then.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this agent told me, you know, told me,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, We're gonna send you in this pilot. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>what is a pilot? I'm gonna play a pilot. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a pilot. Is the first episode? Was that the

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<v Speaker 3>first pilot you ever auditioned for? The first pilot you

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<v Speaker 3>ever auditioned for?

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<v Speaker 1>First pilot?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I hope you enjoyed Part one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope to see you guys in Part two. Dos Amigos

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<v Speaker 2>is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's Michael through

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<v Speaker 2>That Podcast Network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez, and Wilder Valderama.

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<v Speaker 3>Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer Zabos.

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<v Speaker 2>Our executive producers are Wilder Valderama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson,

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<v Speaker 2>and Leo Clem at WV Sound.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode was shot and edited it by Ryan Posts

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<v Speaker 3>and mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by

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<v Speaker 3>Madison Devenport and Helo Boy Our cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Our photography is by David Avalos and designed by Deny Holtz.

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<v Speaker 3>Clau and thank you for being their third amigo today

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<v Speaker 3>you show you, guys, always listening to those of Englis.

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