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Speaker 1: Welcome to those amigos.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to to amigos.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, ready boom, What are you sapping on there? Uh?

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Speaker 2: You know a little?

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Speaker 3: Do you know that today felt like a cup of

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Speaker 3: teach today? I started my day super early today.

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Speaker 2: What was your car time today?

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Speaker 1: So today I didn't have to be on set, but

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Speaker 1: I started.

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Speaker 3: I did a workout in the morning, and then I

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Speaker 3: and then I had a bunch of meetings, a comting

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Speaker 3: for some top brass help for the company as we're

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Speaker 3: expanding some other ways, you know, so where I have

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Speaker 3: meetings like back to back to back all day today

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Speaker 3: and it's just and you can.

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Speaker 1: Throw my voices a little rasping.

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Speaker 2: It just ended down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't realize that it just kept going today

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Speaker 3: and so it was a really long day, but it

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Speaker 1: But what was your day?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What did you do today? Good?

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Speaker 2: Same? Some exercise, some uh you know stuff.

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Speaker 1: At the house. I work on the blutes.

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Speaker 2: Glutes. No, No, today's Monday, right, it's.

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Speaker 1: Like the chest day, the chest yeah, chest.

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Speaker 2: What time does your workout start in the morning?

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Speaker 3: you know, and that's more often than none. Yeah, So

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Speaker 3: I for thirty in the morning, I get it done.

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Speaker 3: I try to sleep in a little bit and spend

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Speaker 1: Maybe take her as cool if I can. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: then it worked out. But you work out in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, a little later in the afternoon. You know.

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Speaker 2: Morning is like coffee, meditation, you know, prayer, you know,

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Speaker 3: I try to get that in first then and you

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Speaker 3: do prayer home or you do go somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you go? Do you go to church on

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Speaker 1: the weekends? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess we'll talk about where they're yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, because I've been looking for church. Well, it

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Speaker 3: leads us perfectly into our theme of this episode. You know,

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Speaker 3: we we in the last couple of episodes, we took

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Speaker 3: a lot of time to understand one another in levels

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Speaker 3: that we hadn't before. Kind of go back to who

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Speaker 3: our families really were before we were any possibility. We

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Speaker 3: like a realm of like, how do we get here?

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Speaker 1: Right? How do we get here as actors? How do

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Speaker 3: It's individuals who like, you know, when you do all

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Speaker 3: So I guess the big question is like, what was

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Speaker 2: I got a funny story before well it, let me

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Speaker 2: just explain when I was. When I was like fourteen

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Speaker 2: fifteen years old in Chicago, they used to make these

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Speaker 2: things called industrial films, right, So the National Heart Association

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Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, fourteen fifteen, seven hundred dollars. I

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Speaker 2: I was in front of the camera, I was acting scenes,

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: So I waited a week, right, the seven hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: remember going to that agency and taking the elevator up,

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Speaker 1: No bro, the chairs were on the desk. It's like

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Speaker 2: They made out with my seven hundred bucks, and I

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Speaker 2: was like, wow, I'll you know, I like swore off agents.

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Speaker 2: I'll never have an agent again. Man, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: like stick to theater in Chicago and like, you know, but

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Speaker 3: So that's my So that's my first fora and that

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Speaker 2: That was my first Chicago agent. And then that's when

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Speaker 2: I signed with the big agency there Suzannai. Plus.

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Speaker 1: So I was going to this night class on Wednesday nights.

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Speaker 1: I had gone to this.

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Speaker 3: Well you know, so when I was a little kid,

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Speaker 1: And blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: You know, you think you got what it takes to

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Speaker 1: And so I so I convinced my dad.

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Speaker 1: My Dad's like, okay, me is see what's up.

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Speaker 3: So we went over to you know, we went over

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Speaker 3: It was like that's how they got people. They threw

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Speaker 2: Whether you're a store yes, that X factor right right?

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Speaker 2: And why you said your name?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes for sure? No man, you I had just

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Speaker 3: So I get on stage and I walk down that

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Speaker 3: I said, hello, my name is we mad about that?

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Speaker 1: You know? We met about that rama. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I'm sixteen years old and I'm from Venezuela, Columbia, Venezuelan, Colombia.

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Speaker 1: I turn around and I walk away.

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Speaker 2: But but did you feel like you had to say

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Speaker 3: I thought like, okay, they're just slating and I just

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Speaker 3: But but in my and in everyone's defense, everyone had

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Speaker 3: And you know, it was basically going to those things

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Speaker 3: you know, you pay for commercial slate classes, you know,

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Speaker 1: And there was this thing called Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 2: I remember how much it was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was something like like six hundred dollars for

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Speaker 2: And that's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Bro, you kidding. We weren't making that in three months.

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Speaker 3: And and I went to the school and I only

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Speaker 3: then this teacher named Sela's Boy started teaching me for

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Speaker 1: So she so I was like, oh, that's cool.

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Speaker 3: So I went and started, you know, taking classes and

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And she introduced me to this agent, very similar situation, right,

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Speaker 3: and and you know this agent had these other you know,

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Speaker 3: small sized agency and he says, I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: some auditions and see what happens. And like, I went

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Speaker 3: out on one, I think one Dorito's commercial did not

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Speaker 3: get it, but the feedback was like, hey, pretty funny kid.

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Speaker 1: Pretty funny kid. But he has an accent.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: So so that's why I couldn't get the part.

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Speaker 3: They wanted a Latin person, but he couldn't sound right,

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Speaker 3: so I didn't get the part. And but then he's like, well,

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Speaker 3: let me see, I want to send you something else.

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Speaker 3: And then so my first thing was I know this audition.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how, but I get booked to this

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Speaker 3: region of commercial for a smart yellow Pages commercial, Yellow

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Speaker 3: Pages yellow Pages commercial and it was so California only,

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Speaker 3: and what's funny, It's like it was the Spanish. It

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Speaker 3: was for the Spanish market, for the Spanish speaking market,

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Speaker 3: and I go and I grabbed the Yellow Pages and

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Speaker 3: I look right to camera and I say the Pacific

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Speaker 3: Bell Smart yellow Pages.

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Speaker 1: But with a really strike accent.

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Speaker 3: The accent was crazy in English, in English, in English.

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Speaker 3: But the whole commercial was in Spanish, you know, and

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Speaker 3: you know, I had my fake mom, I had my

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Speaker 3: my god, I'm doing it. But my whole part was

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Speaker 2: I just remember feeling relaxed, man.

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Speaker 2: he made me feel so welcomed and was so incredibly

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Speaker 2: nice to me. And so it was our fon So

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Speaker 2: and John Carlo and everybody. It just it just became

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Speaker 1: To the energy on that screen too. Yeah, absolutely absolutely,

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Speaker 1: that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then they get to work with Anthony Quinn right,

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Speaker 2: which which was you know, I didn't appreciate it at

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Speaker 2: the time, Like I almost wish I was older because Anthony.

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Speaker 2: I was excited to work with the guy from speed

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Speaker 2: right where Anthony was a legend obviously, you know, but

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Speaker 2: he was more like our dad's generation, right like I was.

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Speaker 2: I was still a kid, and I didn't appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: That's a privilege. I mean, I had a run in

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Speaker 3: with Anthony Quinn when I was nineteen years old, myself,

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Speaker 3: did you Yeah, I didn't. I didn't work with him.

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Speaker 3: But we were at the Hispanic Heritage Words in Washington,

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Speaker 3: d C. At Theaet Center.

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Speaker 1: And that's a really crazy story, a really funny story.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we save it for another opiod. That's a very

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Speaker 1: good one.

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Speaker 3: Uh well, you know it makes me reflect on, you know,

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Speaker 3: that feeling. You kind of took me back to that

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Speaker 3: wondrous feeling where you're like had the audacity of.

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Speaker 1: Thinking that like I got this. I'm waiting for you

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Speaker 1: to say action.

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Speaker 3: You know, like the world where you have this confidence,

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Speaker 3: this level of confidence that is so unaware or not

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Speaker 3: just the environment, but the people that are in that

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Speaker 3: environment that have earned it longer than you, and you

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Speaker 3: kind of almost have to have that yeah, right, like

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Speaker 3: you're gonna almost have to not do the math and

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Speaker 3: just do it, you know, right, because I remember my

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Speaker 3: biggest break came, you know, at you know, at a

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Speaker 3: moment where in my life where I felt certain deficately

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Speaker 3: we needed it the most, right my I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: talked in the last episode where my dad's mask that

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Speaker 3: was was stolen.

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Speaker 1: I made my dad this promise, like I was going

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Speaker 1: to be this actor.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna make this money and I was going

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Speaker 3: to have restaurants and have all these things. And you

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Speaker 3: know that we're never gonna have to pay rent again,

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Speaker 3: and you know, we're not gonna have it have to

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Speaker 3: worry about that stuff. And you know, and I and

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Speaker 3: my dad said okay, may you can do that. I

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Speaker 3: feel like he gave me permission to do it. And

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Speaker 3: I was like, great, now I know I can go

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Speaker 3: ahead full thrott over this thing. My dad was probably

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Speaker 3: being like okay to me, Oh, you know, do what

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Speaker 3: you want to do is okay. You know, like I

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Speaker 3: don't think he understood the magnitude of what he had

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Speaker 3: unlocked in me. And I was doing like his belief

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Speaker 3: in you yes for me. I looked at us like

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Speaker 3: he saw me.

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Speaker 1: He said. I told him I was going to do it.

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Speaker 3: He believes I can do it, and he told me

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Speaker 3: go ahead and do it. And that's how I took it.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I was doing a lot of theater

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Speaker 3: in high school, you know, because you know that was

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Speaker 3: like my obsession and learning how to speak English, was

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Speaker 3: getting on stage and we're doing stage over and over again.

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Speaker 1: And then.

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Speaker 3: You know, this agent told me, you know, told me,

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Speaker 3: all right, We're gonna send you in this pilot. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: what is a pilot? I'm gonna play a pilot. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 3: it's a pilot. Is the first episode? Was that the

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Speaker 3: first pilot you ever auditioned for? The first pilot you

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Speaker 3: ever auditioned for?

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Speaker 1: First pilot?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Wow, I hope you enjoyed Part one.

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Speaker 2: Hope to see you guys in Part two. Dos Amigos

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Speaker 2: is a production from WV Sound and iHeartMedia's Michael through

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Speaker 2: That Podcast Network, hosted by Me, Freddie Rodriguez, and Wilder Valderama.

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Speaker 3: Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer Zabos.

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Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Wilder Valderama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson,

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Speaker 2: and Leo Clem at WV Sound.

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Speaker 3: This episode was shot and edited it by Ryan Posts

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Speaker 3: and mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by

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Speaker 3: Madison Devenport and Helo Boy Our cover.

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Speaker 2: Our photography is by David Avalos and designed by Deny Holtz.

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Speaker 3: Clau and thank you for being their third amigo today

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Speaker 3: you show you, guys, always listening to those of Englis.

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Speaker 2: For more podcasts from My Heart, visit the irheart Radio app,

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Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: See you next week.