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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. I'm your MVP host

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Speaker 1: Tatum Everett. It's been a really busy week over here

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Speaker 1: at Twin City's Orthopedics Performance Center. Roster cuts, decision making

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Speaker 1: that sets the tone for the season ahead, plus back

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Speaker 1: to work with practices, and just getting ready for the

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Speaker 1: season opener in Chicago on September eighth. We've got some

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Speaker 1: major storylines to talk about. How about Adam Feelen returning

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota, Carson Wentz a new quarterback here for the team.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about how the roster shaped up on both

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Speaker 1: sides of the ball and what it all means as

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Speaker 1: we gear up for that Week one matchup. We've got

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Speaker 1: a special guest ahead of us. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: Pete Bursts from the Vikings Radio Network. We were able

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Speaker 1: to get together with Paul Allen to do a roster

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Speaker 1: cutdown show earlier this week, which you can find on

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Speaker 1: Vikings dot Com on the Vikings YouTube page, and we

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Speaker 1: did some preliminary talk about that, but I wanted Pete

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Speaker 1: more in depth about what these moves mean and what

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Speaker 1: he's looking forward to about playing Chicago. But first, before

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Speaker 1: we get to Pete, let's hear from Vikings general manager

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Speaker 1: Quasi Adopha Mensa, who was, you know, the main catalyst

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Speaker 1: and making all these tough decisions this week because everything

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Speaker 1: had to be decided by Tuesday at three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: And those are tough decisions.

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Speaker 1: You're telling guys that, you know, maybe they didn't make

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Speaker 1: the team and their dream is on hold. So he

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Speaker 1: spoke a little bit about what that decision making process

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Speaker 1: is like and why the Vikings feel confident in their

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Speaker 1: roster moving forward.

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Speaker 3: You know, as we established the fifty three in our

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Speaker 3: practice squad, we're you know, really excited about where we are.

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Speaker 3: It's a team, it's it's a result accumulation of just

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Speaker 3: a long, dedicated process of exhaustive, intentional, detailed I always

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Speaker 3: want to start off by thanking the front office staff,

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Speaker 3: who works incredibly hard, on my executive staff, all the

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Speaker 3: members of the personnel team. You know, the August is

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Speaker 3: the time that we're all conditioned ourselves towards the rigors

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Speaker 3: coaches and the staff. You know, a lot of late

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Speaker 3: nights in August when everybody else is on their summer vacation,

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Speaker 3: they spend their time here in pursuit of this goal.

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Speaker 3: So I always want to make sure I thank them

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Speaker 3: to Ko and his staff, you know, the continued collaboration

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Speaker 3: we have, and that's not just in the decision making process,

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Speaker 3: but that's also who we bring in, where we're aligned,

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Speaker 3: and who we bring in and who we want to coach,

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Speaker 3: how do they fit in and so that continues to

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Speaker 3: be a great thing here. And then and lastly, our

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Speaker 3: football operations staff, who provide our players great resources as

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Speaker 3: they you know, optimize their ability to to finish this

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Speaker 3: great training camp that Kevin and his staff put on.

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Speaker 3: So we're excited where we are. We think, you know,

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Speaker 3: obviously there's a lot of hard decisions. You know, I

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Speaker 3: think I think we have a deep roster and you know,

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Speaker 3: with that came just some hard decisions. And you never

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Speaker 3: want to trade away players, especially ones that do that

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Speaker 3: But those are things that come with the job and

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Speaker 3: we have to do them. But we like where we are,

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Speaker 3: where this roster is excited about the you know, the connectivity,

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Speaker 3: the culture we're excited about, you know, the mix of

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Speaker 3: the coaching staff and how they're going to be able

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Speaker 3: to get the best out of this team.

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Speaker 1: You can hear Quacy and head coach Kevin O'Connell's entire

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Speaker 1: press conference on vikings dot com and the Vikings app.

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Adam Thielen, and former Golden Gopher Max Brosmer

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Speaker 1: also spoke today and those interviews are also online. We're

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Speaker 1: going to take a quick break before we get to

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Speaker 1: to Vikings fans. Welcome back inside the Minnesota Vikings podcast.

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Speaker 1: We are excited to be joined by someone who knows

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Speaker 1: this team inside and out. Pete Bursich, who was a

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Speaker 1: he's a trusted voice in.

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Speaker 2: The broadcast booth. He's literally seen the.

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Speaker 1: Game from every angle and that's why he's the best

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Speaker 1: guy for this episode to talk about roster position groups

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Speaker 1: and what to watch for before heading into our primetime

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Speaker 1: season opener Monday, September eighth. That's Soldier Field. Well, let's

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Speaker 1: welcome in our friend of the show, Pete Bursach. Pete,

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Speaker 1: it is so nice of you to join us once again.

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Speaker 1: I know you were on our Roster cut Day show,

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Speaker 1: which you can find on Vikings dot com. However, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to dive more into the roster specifics with you.

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Speaker 1: I thought you had a lot of really fun perspectives.

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Speaker 1: Have you been able to like take it all in,

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Speaker 1: you know, analyze it in your head, listen to Quacy

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You you know, the smoke casts are kind of

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Speaker 4: clear and in that regard, that's exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 4: It's just a matter of digesting everything that's happened. Uh.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, as far as who's gonna fit

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Speaker 4: spots where maybe there's some lack of depth or veteran depth,

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Speaker 4: if you will. But overall, they you know, they sounded

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Speaker 4: him very happy with how the roster turned out, and

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Speaker 4: you know, I would have to agree. And getting a

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Speaker 4: of things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about that one move Peine in particular.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up, was my next question,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's you know, it's a it's a move.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of when I was when I played here

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Speaker 4: they understand the process and how they practice and all

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, There's no you don't have to show

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Speaker 2: No pete.

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Speaker 1: He was dapping up everybody in the media area before

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Speaker 4: Well what it what it does is it not necessarily

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Speaker 4: They know what you don't have. You don't have any

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Speaker 4: almost and I wouldn't say too good to be true,

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Speaker 4: but it's as ideal as it can be to bring

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Speaker 4: he's gonna He's gonna fill that in the first three

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Speaker 2: And Pete, do you think we're going to see him?

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Speaker 1: Do you think we're going to see him like do

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the main thing with I think JJ

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Speaker 4: Sam Howell thing didn't work. They obviously saw something in

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Speaker 4: and there's some there's talent there, There's there's something there.

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Speaker 4: And he's a veteran. He knows what it's like to

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Speaker 4: But credit the Vikings. This is again something that if

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Speaker 4: And make no mistake, Carson Wentz would if if you

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Speaker 1: Well in the relatability between being a first round draft

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Speaker 4: They both played big time college. You're both champions.

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Speaker 2: Trust that from a movie. I just thought about something that.

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Speaker 4: We're done with practice. I feel like new guys, you

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Speaker 4: Those are the guys that UH are gonna be on

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Speaker 4: Yes, at a dog show, dog sholl neither way fire

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Speaker 4: And I think some of the things that you're alluding

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Speaker 4: maybe Josh Mintel's who just inked a deal, maybe feels

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Speaker 4: a little bit comfortable. But he's a character guy, so

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Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about that. But you know

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Speaker 4: my point, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean definitely, there there's a standard here that

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Speaker 1: they're set. I think what Quasi called it that I

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Speaker 1: believe was such a really cool way to describe it,

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Speaker 1: was this is a meritocracy where we are going to

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Speaker 1: reward great play. We're gonna reward the hard work, the culture, fit,

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Speaker 1: the effort. No matter what your background is, where you are,

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Speaker 1: where you're from, what school you went to, any of that,

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Speaker 1: what's your playing history, your resume. It's a meritocracy here.

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Speaker 1: And that really leads me to my next question. Seven

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Speaker 1: undrafted free agents making this roster, which, albeit it may

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Speaker 1: be a little bit of a reason why due to

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Speaker 1: the fact that there were five only five draft picks

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Speaker 1: this year, However, it's incredibly tough to come here, especially

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Speaker 1: someone like my Elijah Williams, who was a rookie tryout

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Speaker 1: and had to try out to even go to rookie

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Speaker 1: meuning camp.

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Speaker 2: Then now he makes the roster. What does you know?

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Speaker 1: I guess for me, what has impressed you the most

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Speaker 1: about the scouting process and maybe the coaching from your

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Speaker 1: coaching perspective on being able to roster seven guys who

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Speaker 1: were not your draft picks?

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Speaker 4: That's uh, you know, either way, at some point you

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Speaker 4: got to stop and go. It doesn't matter if the

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Speaker 4: guys were drafted or not. They're here and somehow they

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Speaker 4: brought them in, right, So finding talent is finding talent,

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Speaker 4: whether they're undrafted guys or or guys that you pick.

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Speaker 4: So in a year, yeah, you don't have a ton

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Speaker 4: of picks to bring these guys in. Now, you hope

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Speaker 4: you know, you look at the list, you're a sec Brozemer,

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Speaker 4: Elijah Williams, Miles Price, Joe huber Chas Chamblis, Austin Keyes.

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Speaker 4: You hope that you don't go into a game soon,

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Speaker 4: depending I mean, depending on one of these guys, right see.

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Speaker 4: And I think I think that's the difference that we're

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Speaker 4: that we all have to accept, is when when when

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Speaker 4: you're looking at an offensive line position, you're looking at

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Speaker 4: Donovan Jackson and you're saying, Okay, this guy's going to

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Speaker 4: be ready to go day one. Well, that's why he's

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Speaker 4: a first round draft pick. These other guys are, you know,

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Speaker 4: there's they need some development, right, they need to they

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Speaker 4: need to work on some things, but eventually they can

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Speaker 4: be starters or they can contribute. And that's the reality

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Speaker 4: of the situation. You you have a number of these

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Speaker 4: undrafted guys that you're excited about that, you know, guys

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Speaker 4: like EuroSec. He definitely has all the tools. You know,

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Speaker 4: he had with the second second or third fastest, second,

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Speaker 4: second fastest forty of all the tight ends that worked out,

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Speaker 4: he had the fastest ten yard split. I mean he's

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Speaker 4: a four to six guy as a two hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty pounds six foot three, six foot four tight end,

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Speaker 4: So it's not a high weight speed, you know, what

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Speaker 4: is it? So maybe it's because he was at Stanford

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Speaker 4: for four years and.

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Speaker 2: The translate to Georgia behind people.

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Speaker 4: You know, and then and Quasi's alluded to that many

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Speaker 4: times too, where with with the portal and guys transferring,

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Speaker 4: they you know, they get paid money, they go somewhere

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Speaker 4: and then doesn't work out and they don't play much,

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Speaker 4: so how do you judge them? So those there are

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Speaker 4: guys out there, yeah, don't get drafted that are good

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Speaker 4: football players. And we found a bunch of them.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I I not to mention that there's

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Speaker 1: Bo Richter, Dwight mcglotherin from this past draft class like

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four paid and Ivan paid from twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, Tatum, you were an if

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Speaker 4: you were an agent, and you were right in your

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Speaker 4: client is getting the sixth round, getting close to free agency,

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Speaker 4: and then client doesn't get drafted, and then you get

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Speaker 4: a phone call from the Vikings. Yeah, I mean that matters.

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Speaker 2: That does matter in the long run.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, if I'm under if I'm it matters. It

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Speaker 4: matters a lot, especially if you're a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But well especially if you're an under drafted.

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Speaker 4: You guys make it here.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, like Ben, you'asek, they're they're fielding other offers

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Speaker 1: for people. They're like as much as you're just they're like, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: like we want this undrafted free agent that for agents

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Speaker 1: also decided between other offers and not that it's like

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Speaker 1: the college recruiting process, but you do have to kind

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Speaker 1: of sell them on wanting to be there. And if

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Speaker 1: the opportunity, like you said, is greater here, there's more

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Speaker 1: of a meritocracy, then they're gonna pick this place over

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Speaker 1: other offers that are on the table.

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Speaker 4: Right, And that's you know, so we talk about the

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Speaker 4: Vikings being ready to add or near the top with facilities,

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Speaker 4: and how will they take care of players and everything else.

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Speaker 4: That's when that's when some of that stuff, you know matters.

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Speaker 4: That's that you know, that little bit can make a

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Speaker 4: can make enough of a difference for sure. You know

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Speaker 4: that's a good that's a good, uh project for you.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I don't like it in your free time.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's like, don't get me anywhere.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to do school interview.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can do that then, okay.

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Speaker 4: Say why why Minnesota? Now it could be as simple

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Speaker 4: as they were gonna pay me. They paid me ten

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Speaker 4: grand more than anybody else.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's I can call that assignment.

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Speaker 4: Or it could be, hey, you know I heard about this,

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Speaker 4: I heard about that, this coach knows this guy, this whatever.

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Speaker 4: But what is it, right, what is it that's that's

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Speaker 4: making this place attractive to first? You got to find them, right,

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Speaker 4: But like a Joe Hubert.

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Speaker 2: I can find it.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's yeah, it's just you get it. You know. Well,

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Speaker 4: I'm saying you have the final undrafted guys that you

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Speaker 4: want these.

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Speaker 2: I thought you meant, oh, like you have to find like, No,

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Speaker 2: I'll go have lunch with them.

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Speaker 4: But why here? You know, why did you come here?

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Speaker 4: And and that's that's valuable information to the franchise itself.

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Speaker 4: So you can put together a nice presentation. Double space, right,

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Speaker 4: don't make it too long. Colors, pie charts, pie charts.

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Speaker 4: People love pie charts and walk Look this is what

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Speaker 4: we got right.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was just for you.

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Speaker 4: No, this is for you to go.

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Speaker 2: Okay. See, I was going to have.

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Speaker 1: One of our producers is our associate, Abby Whittington, and

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Speaker 1: Abby is gonna. Abby is really good at our project

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Speaker 1: management software. I feel like if I gave her the info,

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Speaker 1: she could make me some charts.

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Speaker 4: If you're in If you're in football, there's an old

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Speaker 4: saying saying that it goes the more you can do. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're if you're If you're a special teams guy and

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Speaker 4: you can play multiple spots, you do if you can

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Speaker 4: hold snaps for p A t you do it. The

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Speaker 4: more you can do, the better. So for you. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you can start doing some of this data research

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Speaker 4: on you know, and and those kinds of things and

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Speaker 4: bringing it to the front office, I guess the more

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Speaker 4: you can do, more I can do. Yeah, you know, valuable.

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Speaker 4: You become to very rategize in the organization.

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Speaker 1: Pete Persage giving me career and life advice on the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings podcast.

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Speaker 2: I greatly appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no problem, just trying out, Pete.

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Speaker 1: How much do you follow what's going on in Chicago

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Speaker 1: and the football team there?

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Speaker 4: I think in the in the NFC North a lot, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, but the with the with uh, the Bears.

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Speaker 1: I'm I mean the Bears. Have you been doing some research?

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Speaker 1: She got a game call in a few days.

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Speaker 4: No, of course.

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Speaker 2: I mean what's looking like?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's interesting to watch Caleb Williams and

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Speaker 4: see how much he's changed, you know, just looking at

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Speaker 4: him at the preseason, and there are some things. He

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Speaker 4: looks better in some areas, but in other areas he's

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Speaker 4: still kind of the same old Caleb. If you can

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Speaker 4: get pressure on him. He was sacked sixty eight times

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Speaker 4: I think last year, and that that lingers a right.

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Speaker 4: There's this little bit of a scar there, meaning he'll

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Speaker 4: speed up his when you get pressure, he'll speed up

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Speaker 4: his reeds and he may you know, you know, not

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Speaker 4: wait for something to come come free before he decides

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Speaker 4: to pull it down and scramble. But he's doing I

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Speaker 4: think better in some of the other categories. You watch

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Speaker 4: the Bears against even it's interesting they played Buffalo and

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Speaker 4: just like a hot knife through butter, but Buffalo just

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Speaker 4: lined up and played base defense. But you watch Kansas

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Speaker 4: City started throwing some herr balls at them. That's what

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Speaker 4: Kansas City does or zone blitz team. They do a lot.

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Speaker 4: They throw out of looks at you. And when the

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Speaker 4: Bears didn't make the right adjustments and they had free

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Speaker 4: rushers or people getting in Caleb's face, he looked a

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Speaker 4: lot more like the old Caleb. You know, we're the Ben.

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Speaker 4: And the thing is with Ben Johnson too, is the

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Speaker 4: success that he's had against the Vikings. You have to

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Speaker 4: sit there and say, is it the scheme or is

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Speaker 4: it the players right?

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Speaker 2: Is it right?

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Speaker 4: What? You know? What is it? And you know the

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Speaker 4: Bears lash the Bears with flores. Here, the Bears have

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Speaker 4: scored on a averaged sixteen points a game. Offensively, the

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Speaker 4: Lions with Ben Johnson have scored thirty points a game. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so is it Ben Johnson or is it the players?

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Speaker 4: I'm saying it's Jamior Gibbs and Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's definitely just.

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Speaker 4: Just if you want, if you have nothing to do with.

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Speaker 2: Your life, maybe an homework assignment.

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Speaker 4: No, not for you. I'm just in general. Just go

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Speaker 4: back and look at all the touchdowns that that the Lions,

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Speaker 4: at least last year, all the touchdowns the line scored.

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Speaker 4: They were cornerback falls down, Golf finds them, hits them,

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Speaker 4: mental air on a blitz, GoF finds the receiver running

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Speaker 4: a go route and hits them. Jamie or Gibbs with

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Speaker 4: the big run. There was a you know, we were

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Speaker 4: without Cashman at the time, and you know we had

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Speaker 4: Dallas Turner playing off the ball linebacker, just a misfit

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Speaker 4: and he's good enough to make a guy miss. And

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Speaker 4: then you watch the game this game seventeen last year,

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Speaker 4: and they were lining up with a tight end in

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Speaker 4: full but they were running I like an I formation

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Speaker 4: ISO run that they scored a touchdown on after a

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Speaker 4: mistackle by cam bining them. It's like, it doesn't it's

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Speaker 4: not complicated. I mean, the better your players are, the

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Speaker 4: thinner your playbook should be. And it's not like there's

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Speaker 4: some magic formula that Ben Johnson had to beat to

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Speaker 4: beat the Vikings or to be able to score thirty

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Speaker 4: points a game against the Vikings. That's why I'm so

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Speaker 4: intrigued about this game is he doesn't have Jamior Gibbs.

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Speaker 4: Jamior Gibbs we gave up with nine rushing touchdowns last year.

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Speaker 4: Is either nine or eleven, it's somewhere like, you know,

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Speaker 4: around ten. Gibbs had five of them. Five.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible.

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Speaker 4: It's that guy's just a thorn on our side. Now

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Speaker 4: we got to figure out how to stop him when

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Speaker 4: we play him. But you know, Ben Johnson doesn't have

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Speaker 4: that weapon in the backfield. Now, he might be able

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Speaker 4: to move the chains whatever, but you're not going to

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Speaker 4: get those forty, you know, forty thirty yard runs, the

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Speaker 4: big runs that we've seen out of them. So my

649
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 4: guess would be that Flores is gonna literally throw the

650
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: kitchen sink at Caleb Williams. As far as looks go,

651
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: don't let them get comfortable, don't let him feel like

652
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 4: he knows what he's what he's looking at defensively, and

653
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: make him make all the adjustments and make him his

654
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: uncomfortable and get him off. It is timing off as

655
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: much as you possibly can.

656
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: I have a question about that.

657
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: There's some of that there go So, So.

658
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: If you're Brian Flores and you're throwing the kitchen sink,

659
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: do you want to put that much of that on

660
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: film this early on in this season. From a coaching perspective.

661
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: You don't, Yeah, you don't. You don't worry about Week two.

662
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 4: You are not worried about the Atlanta Falcons.

663
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: Zero, But like down the line, like do you come

664
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: out and like I feel like some offenses don't show

665
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: everything week one?

666
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: You know you though? Yes, I mean here's the thing

667
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: you can only you can only do so much. Yeah, okay,

668
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 4: you can only you can only a head coach. You'll

669
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 4: see his flip card. He'll have you know you got

670
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 4: let's say you got sixty plays or seventy plays on

671
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 4: on on the flip card, there's only sixty five plays

672
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 4: in a game. You can't call. You call plays over

673
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 4: again you can't just call sixty different plays. Ye how

674
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 4: it works, right, You might have a run that works,

675
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: so you flip it and run the other way or whatever.

676
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 4: You can't. You have all that there to know it.

677
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: You're capable of doing it, but you have to focus

678
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 4: on a specific number of these plays. And defensively, as

679
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: a coach, you, like I said, you don't worry about

680
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: showing anything. You really you don't care.

681
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: Well that has really excited about that game?

682
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 4: Well, you want to beat the Bears and if I

683
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: got to, I mean.

684
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: Well, and think about the support that if your defense

685
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: comes out there and just shuts them down. How much

686
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: playing not having to play from behind of a lift

687
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: and support that could be for the offense going out

688
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: for the first time with JJ McCarthy.

689
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you well, I mean when the games, if

690
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 4: it's a one score game, you can offensively, you can

691
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 4: maintain your balance, right. If you're ahead by multiple scores,

692
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: then you may get run heavy. If you're down by

693
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 4: multiple scores, then you're going to have to get chunk

694
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: plays and move the football, so you get a little

695
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 4: pass heavy. Yeah, right, that's why when when teams break

696
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 4: down other teams offenses and defenses. They the score differential

697
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 4: is a big part of big part of it because

698
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 4: on base downs when it's one score game, you do

699
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: this when you're you know, and so that matters.

700
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: Situational masters, that's what they say, it's what they call

701
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: them up here, exactly.

702
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 2: They do situation.

703
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: It's a lot. It's a lot.

704
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

705
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 4: And but and despite having all that information, if you're

706
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 4: a Flores or Kevin O'Connell and you're the one calling plays,

707
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: you have to have a gut feeling about things right.

708
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: And that's what makes those guys great. You can't just

709
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: be a data processor and call the defenses.

710
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll tell you what though, this this game Monday

711
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: Night Football, Like I'm going to be raring to go

712
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: because we're going to be watching games all weekend long

713
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: and we're gonna sit there on Sunday and be traveling.

714
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 4: The game will never get here. It's never it's never

715
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: going to get here. The first week, Monday Night is

716
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: the worst because well, we're just.

717
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: Gonna be waiting all day Monday in Chicago. First world problems,

718
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: I get it, But like we're just gonna be waiting

719
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: around being like, Okay, what is gonna happen. I can't

720
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: imagine the nerves. Oh my god, I'm not even playing obviously.

721
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 4: So yeah, tough. That's yeah, that's a that's a you know,

722
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 4: it's something that the players need to keep in mind.

723
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: And you can't sit there and watch football all day

724
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 4: and get caught up in that because it'll it will,

725
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: you know, it will eventually, it will wear you out

726
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 4: a little bit.

727
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: Probably.

728
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we have to figure out this road

729
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 4: prime time thing.

730
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: Though.

731
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 4: I think we've lost our last seven in a row.

732
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: You dropped that nugget on the Roster Show and I.

733
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: Was like, Paul got up, Yeah, Paul got all upset

734
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 4: at me. But it's what it is. It's a number.

735
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 4: The thing is, it is. What it is doesn't mean

736
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: anything right, right, And I'm not I mean, I'm not

737
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: a coach, So I'm not going to go back and

738
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 4: try to, you know, look through every every single one

739
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: of those and figure out if there's something. There's something there,

740
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: but it's an area of focus. Just like short yardage

741
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 4: running game, deep red zone running game. These are all

742
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 4: things that have been addressed. And when you bring in

743
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: veterans like you have with Will Fryes and you know,

744
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: Kelly and the rest of them. These guys been doing

745
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 4: this for a long time, so they should be ready

746
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: and hopefully be more ready.

747
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, heck yeah.

748
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's going to be different hotel though, Tatum,

749
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but you're not gonna be staying at the

750
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: JW and the financial distance.

751
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: I love that bad Yeah, I've already I've already looked

752
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: at all that kind of stuff ahead of time. I'm

753
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: a creature of habit I like to know where I'm going,

754
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: who who do I know in the city?

755
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: Who can I meet up with? I do that in

756
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: Nashville every year.

757
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: I always have like my friends, and I like being

758
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: able to take advantage of that.

759
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 2: So, but UGO is one of my favorites.

760
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: I'm excited to go back to Soldier Field hot maybe

761
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: a hot take. I know people talk about that stadium

762
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: and whatnot, maybe not favorably, but I think Soldier Field's cool.

763
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: I like the locations different.

764
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. I think it's really neat and

765
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 1: I like I mean, I like it. So I don't

766
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: know what people are saying, but I like it.

767
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: Just take it all in because I don't know how

768
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: much longer they're going to be there. It looks like

769
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 4: moving to Arlington.

770
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, look the Titans, they have how

771
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: many more years in their stadium and they're building one

772
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: like literally next door. So I think we've got a

773
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: few more seasons in there, maybe a couple.

774
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm good with it.

775
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 4: This is it, though, this could be it.

776
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: This is you know they're not going to be able

777
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 2: to knock it down and build something.

778
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I know, no, no, I know that.

779
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 4: But I'm saying this is your one chance this year.

780
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 4: You may have next year and then I'm just saying

781
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: the end is near near, right, the end is near? Yeah, well,

782
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 4: of course you want to play a wild Card game

783
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: in Chicago, which I really don't.

784
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: No, not outdoors place, no, thank you. Well, the end

785
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: is the end is here for this podcast, we have

786
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: been yapping it up, and I really, Pete, I really

787
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining. I always love I love picking your

788
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: brain about the game and getting your insights because I

789
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: feel like not many people out there have played, coached,

790
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 1: been an analyst for as long as you have, and

791
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: and it's it's really lucky for people like me who

792
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: just want to be a sponge in this league and

793
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: and learn the most that they can from guys like you.

794
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: So I appreciate your time.

795
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely any time. I just I enjoyed talking about it.

796
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 4: And football is the best.

797
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: It's the absolute best there is and it just it's

798
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: not working a day in your life.

799
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: So many great people, so many sort of I would say,

800
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 4: since I moved into the booth, yeah, yeah, like a

801
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 4: dream job.

802
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 2: This is really cool.

803
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: But the you know, I mean there's been there's a

804
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: lot of blood, sweat and tears that got me into

805
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 4: the booth.

806
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: I bet so, it's like, but you're there.

807
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 4: I just yeah.

808
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: And you get to talk to Viking stands every week,

809
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: which is so cool.

810
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 4: My dad told me, you get paid to talk. Don't

811
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 4: ever miss a day of work. You know, that's how

812
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 4: bad could it be. You don't have to ye dig

813
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 4: a hole, you don't have to move stuff, You just talk.

814
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: My parents didn't know I can make a career out

815
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: of this, and here I am fifteen years old.

816
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: Look at you.

817
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: I know. Ok see, they shouldn't have ever listened to

818
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: my teachers and tell me to be quiet in school.

819
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 4: And when you march into Quasy's office with this with

820
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: the pie charts, and everything else.

821
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like wow, more than a pretty faces.

822
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you're gonna get yourself a promotion and

823
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna football side. The office will have to be

824
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 4: big enough to cover both ends of the buildings. Oh wow,

825
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to help. Just remember me when you're

826
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: on top.

827
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: Oh I will, I'll hire you to be my analyst.

828
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: Well yeah, make me do all the all the I

829
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 4: don't know.

830
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: Exactly all the make me look good, Pete. Well, thank

831
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: you again, Pete, and I will see you. I will

832
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: see you very soon as we get ready for Chicago

833
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: for that big since and opener. It's going to be awesome,

834
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: so we will we will talk soon.

835
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, Pete.

836
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 4: Sounds good. Take care of Tatum.

837
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: Thank you to Pete. It's always so great to have

838
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: him on. And we really appreciate his insight. If you

839
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: couldn't tell from how many times I thanked him.

840
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 2: We are so excited, obviously for this.

841
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: Big time Monday night football matchup. It's going to be

842
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: so amazing. And if you need to catch up on

843
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: anything Vikings related to get you ready, primed and ready

844
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: for that game, you can check out Vikings dot com

845
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: or the Vikings app. We have so much stuff in

846
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: store for you. The latest news, interviews, and features all

847
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: across Bikings Entertainment Network posted super soon and currently actually

848
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: because I've seen some really neat social videos that have

849
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: been dropping and I cannot.

850
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: Wait to see more.

851
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys for listening, and of course we're

852
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: gonna have another episode coming ATCHA next week, so stay

853
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