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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm John this three and Now podcast, and we're here

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Speaker 1: to talk a little football, and that is what we

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Speaker 1: will do. Because the draft is now eighteen days away.

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Speaker 1: We got two full weeks this week and next week,

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Speaker 1: and then the following week is the draft Thursday of

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Speaker 1: the twenty fourth, the first round. Very very exciting. It's

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Speaker 1: obviously a huge, huge weekend for the National Football League

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Speaker 1: for all your teams, because nothing creates more hope than

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Speaker 1: drafting players. Is exciting, it's fun to talk about, and

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Speaker 1: it's not far away. So one thing we will try

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Speaker 1: to do over the next couple weeks is do a

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Speaker 1: draft related topic every single day, and that's what we

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Speaker 1: will do. So obviously the Masters this week we will

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Speaker 1: Master's podcast Gambling Heavy might do Wednesday, or yeah, record

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Speaker 1: the press conferences the next couple days. I've already dove

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Speaker 1: pretty I mean, I get very aggressive gambling on this

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Speaker 1: golf tournament, so we will dive into that from a

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Speaker 1: draftking standpoint. We will also do a mail bag today

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Speaker 1: at John middlecoff firing those dms, and you guys know

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Speaker 1: the drill. Other than that, any any master's questions for

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Speaker 1: later this week at golopod firing those dms. I have

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Speaker 1: a separate instagram for golf only. And obviously this is

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Speaker 1: just a huge week, biggest golf tournament of the year,

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Speaker 1: of the draft. So I'm excited it's about that time

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Speaker 1: day Saturday, played golf, got home, turned on Duke Houston,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Flagg looks like a can't miss player. Now, there

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Speaker 1: But if you're in a position where you can dictate

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Speaker 1: whether they come or not, you're like, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't see this one working well. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you're incapable. I think you can go on to have

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Speaker 1: a good career with some other company, but it's probably

432
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Speaker 1: not gonna work here. I think that happens a lot

433
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Speaker 1: in football once the coaches and the GM and the

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Speaker 1: owner really meet with the guy, Like, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: really see it. And obviously anytime the owner either wants

436
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Speaker 1: a guy or is out on a guy doesn't really

437
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: matter what the team thinks. And speaking of an owner

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Speaker 1: that you know clearly is very involved, is Woody Johnson.

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Speaker 1: I mean the pushback on the NFLPA grades, which honestly

440
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Speaker 1: I don't even have the energy to quite figure out,

441
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Speaker 1: Like I don't even care, you know, to get to

442
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: give an owner an f I think for these players,

443
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: like how often are they really around them? I think

444
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: it's more just like the vibe in the place. But

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00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 1: when Woody Johnson is quoted at the owners meetings saying

446
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: that Justin Fields is a winner, which in college that's true.

447
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: Obviously in the NFL that's untrue. But looking back on

448
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Speaker 1: his draft, I might be screwing this up a little bit,

449
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: but it was basically it was clear that Trevor Lawrence

450
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Speaker 1: and him were the top two guys and they were

451
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Speaker 1: the best two prospects in that draft, it's like, bro,

452
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Speaker 1: your team draft at Zach Wilson. Now he was, you know,

453
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Speaker 1: not around as much. His brother was involved. But Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell had some comments which I think at this point

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Speaker 1: in time, like when Dan talks, it's crazy how you

456
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Speaker 1: can go from I don't want to say laughingstock, but

457
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Speaker 1: let's face it. I mean early on, a lot of

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Speaker 1: people made fun of Dan Campbell. And I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of times too, you know, the media over educated

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Speaker 1: group or places a huge, huge emphasis on like do

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Speaker 1: you feel like a highly educated individual, super intellectual? Like

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Speaker 1: they lean toward those guys. That's why they love Brandon Staley.

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Speaker 1: Early on, they're like, this guy's so smart. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

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Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck how much he knows. To

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Speaker 1: send the limo to that to that guy's house on

467
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Speaker 1: game day because I want to make sure that he's

468
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Speaker 1: there so we can kick his ass. And the Dan

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Speaker 1: Campbell types are usually not going to be like you know,

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Speaker 1: immediately the media's favor they lean toward like nerdy guys.

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Speaker 1: And I would say several years later now I would

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Speaker 1: say Campbell's respect level just with everyone around the NFL

473
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Speaker 1: is pretty high. So like when he talks and I've

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Speaker 1: watched a lot of his press conferences, like Dan Campbell's

475
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Speaker 1: a really really high level guy, and it's it's pretty obvious,

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Speaker 1: like his whole thing isn't just out toughing you, even

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Speaker 1: though it's a huge part of his coaching ability. It's

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Speaker 1: no different like the Hardball Brothers, like toughness, toughness, toughness,

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Speaker 1: Like these guys are sharp, man, they kind of know

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Speaker 1: what they're doing. They might do it in a little

481
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Speaker 1: different way, but I don't sleep on them. And he

482
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Speaker 1: had some comments that basically Aaron Glenn's guy that if

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn can't turn around the Jets, no one can't.

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Speaker 1: And I totally like understand back in your guy and

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Speaker 1: believing in your guy. And clearly Aaron Glenn's a really

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Speaker 1: impressive coordinator. I mean what he did down the stretch

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Speaker 1: with me and you playing defense was awesome. Hard to

488
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Speaker 1: not root for Aaron Glenn, But like, let's look at

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Speaker 1: the Lion situation. When those guys got to take over,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really look like the Ford family was dictating

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Speaker 1: everything they do, and it's like telling them to do

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Speaker 1: this or not do that, and so Aaron Glenn and

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Speaker 1: his coaching staff could be awesome. It's really hard to

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Speaker 1: overcome Woody Jones and he's not going away. When you

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Speaker 1: think meddling owners, I would just say like he's kind

496
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Speaker 1: of feels a little I'm not saying this is purely

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Speaker 1: apple or apples to apples here, but does feel like

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Speaker 1: there's some Dan Snyder stuff going on, like just a

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Speaker 1: little too involved and knows fucking nothing about anything when

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Speaker 1: it comes to football. So if Aaron Glenn can turn

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Speaker 1: this thing around, it would be an incredible accomplishment. It

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Speaker 1: really would, because it's not just building a football team,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think it's random. These last fifteen years

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Speaker 1: which it's his team, it's his progative. He can do

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Speaker 1: Can you explain why Burrow is viewed in higher regard

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Speaker 1: than Stafford in terms of being in the top three

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Speaker 1: to seven quarterbacks outside of mobility? It seems from a

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Speaker 1: casual eye that Stafford is better at almost everything than Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Yet Stafford has always talked about closer to like the

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Speaker 1: top five or seven guy, and Burrow has always talked

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Speaker 1: about as like a top two or four guy. Yet

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Speaker 1: arm strength, touch, accuracy, IQ, pocket awareness, manipulation of coverages.

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Speaker 1: I've never watched the two play and thought Burrow was

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Speaker 1: even ninety percent of the quarterback Stafford is. I've never

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Speaker 1: heard this discuss on a pod or major TV channel.

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Speaker 1: I think you got a factor in age, so like

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Speaker 1: there's like a ten year age gap, so Stafford is

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Speaker 1: on whole seventeen or eighteen of his career. I mean, hell,

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Speaker 1: he's like going year to year literally right now. And

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Speaker 1: I think if Stafford was at his same age they

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Speaker 1: were both you know, twenty seven, twenty eight years old,

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Speaker 1: twenty nine, in the prime of their career, playing for

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Speaker 1: the Rams and playing for the Bengals, I think we

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Speaker 1: would talk Stafford differently. I think part of the way

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Speaker 1: we discussed Stafford is like he's the old guy who's

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Speaker 1: not going to play much longer. So I think we're

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Speaker 1: discriminating him because of his age, and rightfully so right

565
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Speaker 1: because in the prime of his career he was on

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Speaker 1: a dogshit team and it was difficult to evaluate him

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Speaker 1: as some great talent or great player. We knew he

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Speaker 1: was a great talent, but the Lions were not the

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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell Lions at the time. They were a joke.

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Speaker 1: And now we get to see him in his latter

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Speaker 1: years on a really good team with a good organization

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Speaker 1: and team's really good and he's really good, so I

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Speaker 1: would push back, Like, obviously Stafford is one of the

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Speaker 1: great arms of all time. Just watch the throw. Go

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Speaker 1: to Instagram and watch the throw he made with Bryson

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Speaker 1: d Chambeau. They played a golf thing that Bryson does

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Speaker 1: for his YouTube channel. I mean, it looks like he's

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Speaker 1: throwing one hundred and fifty miles an hour. I mean

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Speaker 1: bright since luckily lucky it didn't come at his face,

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00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: it came off his chest. But I mean it was

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Speaker 1: like Stafford's arms elite but like Burrows doesn't have I

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Speaker 1: would say an elite arm, but accuracy, football IQ, pocket manipulation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a great player, great player, and they're

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Speaker 1: different type players. But I think it just gets back

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Speaker 1: to the to the age. It just gets back to

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Speaker 1: the age plus a couple of years ago. Like Stafford

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Speaker 1: led the league in picks, he just throw. He throws

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Speaker 1: a lot of interceptions, which again you're gonna throw touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: I don't care like Burrow into like this last year

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Speaker 1: two thousand and the fall of twenty twenty four, brow

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00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: was a better player. I would I don't even think

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Speaker 1: would Stafford debate that Brown's take Travis at two, then

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Speaker 1: trade up with someone later for the door pick. I

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Speaker 1: would be very hesitant, and I get very uncomfortable when

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Speaker 1: people go the They just extended Geno out on quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks no drafting of quarterbacks. The Giants they

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00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: gave Russell Wilson and uh Jamis Winston money. No quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Like guys, we see this every year. Man We've seen

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Speaker 1: him forever. It's like Kirk Cousins ninety million dollars pick eight,

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Speaker 1: Michael Pennix Junior, how Pete Carroll did it once upon

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Speaker 1: a time with Matt Flint. They paid him a bunch

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Speaker 1: of money. Then they drafted Russell Wilson. That was in

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Speaker 1: the third round. But I think we got to be

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Speaker 1: very careful about just because a free agent move happens,

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Speaker 1: that we're not going to draft a quarterback. So I

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Speaker 1: guess in theory, Shador could quote unquote fall on draft night,

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Speaker 1: but he also could get picked thirty. He col get

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Speaker 1: picked six. Who knows, but to me, if he is falling,

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00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: then yeah, I could see someone trade up to get him.

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Speaker 1: And that could also include good teams like this, you know,

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Speaker 1: playoff teams Steelers the Rams I mean Amsar team again,

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Speaker 1: he's going year to year. Question, with your background as

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Speaker 1: a scout and seemingly every major college football program now

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Speaker 1: having a GM position, would you ever consider interviewing for

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Speaker 1: said position for the right team? You know, I get

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Speaker 1: asked iterations of this question. The simple answer is, like,

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this now for a long time. You know,

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Speaker 1: I worked in football for like six years and it

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Speaker 1: was an incredible time in my twenties to my late twenties.

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Speaker 1: But like I was meant to do this and things

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Speaker 1: have gone well, and I'm not a guy that's ever

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Speaker 1: looked to get back in. I've put all my chips

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the table on this and it's

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Speaker 1: it's taking time over you know, a decade, but it's

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Speaker 1: worked out and if anything, it's expanding time. It's time

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Speaker 1: to build a bigger operation. It's time to you know,

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Speaker 1: add more things to the table. So I have no

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Speaker 1: desire to ever do anything football wise, besides maybe like

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Speaker 1: one day if I have a kid who's probably won't

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Speaker 1: be good at football, but maybe we'll play like a

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Speaker 1: flag football when he's a kid, like go to be

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Speaker 1: a coach or something. I have a lot of friends

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Speaker 1: that have interviewed for these jobs and hearing what they offered.

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Speaker 1: I mean, some of them are paying, you know, a

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Speaker 1: million bucks. But I and I hope those guys take

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Speaker 1: those jobs, get those jobs, and enjoy it. But that

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Speaker 1: is not for me. And I'm not one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, some people you see like go back and

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Speaker 1: forth like I'm a talking guy, like I'm a podcaster,

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Speaker 1: like that's that's what I do. I'm not like one

641
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: of those guys that comes to podcasting and then goes

642
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: back to football and then goes back to like, no,

643
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: this is this is it? Not that I'd even It's

644
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: not like I'm getting offered to get these jobs and

645
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: I won't. But if I did, which slim to none

646
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: won't happen, it would be I wouldn't even entertain in

647
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: with them. Longtime listener, first time writer. I really appreciate

648
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: your perspective on life in general, personal finance, and I'm

649
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: hoping to get your thoughts on big decision I'm currently facing.

650
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm in my mid thirties, I'm married and have three kids.

651
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: I've also been operating a construction company with two partners

652
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: for the past four years. Recently we received serious interest

653
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: from potential buyers and now have a formal offer on

654
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: the table for nine million dollars after taxes, fees, other expenses.

655
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: My personal share would be approximately one point nine million.

656
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: That said, I'm in a great position. I pay myself

657
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: very well, enjoy strong owner benefits, vehicles, fuel business paid trips,

658
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 1: and have a great quality of life. But there will

659
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: always be a certain level of stress as an owner.

660
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: I love to get your take on what factors I

661
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: should be considering when deciding whether to move forward with

662
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: the sale. Well, I just want to say congratulations. I mean,

663
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: you guys built a company over you know, in less

664
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: short period of time and turn this thing into i

665
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: mean pretty closely to not far away from making it

666
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: an uh an eight figure operation. That's that's fucking awesome.

667
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: So so congrats to you. Someone asked me a very

668
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: serious question, not for the mailbag. I don't honestly, I

669
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: don't even know if I was supposed to read that.

670
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: I didn't say your name, but someone had asked me

671
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: a very serious question. They were a younger person, and

672
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: I've used this to anyone that's anytime that asks you know,

673
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: some like hardcore advice I'm a huge believer in this,

674
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: and I was telling Maria this the other day, Like

675
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: you can tell and go to people like what should

676
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: I do? No One, even your partners, know better because

677
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: they don't know like truly like your home situation, you

678
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: know your kids, What you truly like means everything to

679
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 1: you is like your gut, and I think your gut

680
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: feeling and I would imagine asking this question, you're leaning

681
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: one way and nothing, to me is more powerful than

682
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: your gut. And every big decision I've ever made in

683
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: forty plus years, whether it be professionally or personally, and

684
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: I've made pretty big ones. Moved across the country, just

685
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: got married, just moved a state pretty recently within the

686
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: last three or four years. Listen, we've all made big

687
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: decisions relative to ourselves as we get older. I think

688
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: your gut is by far the best determining factor, and

689
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: sometimes your head can come into it. And which is

690
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: which is healthy? In fight and make you, you know,

691
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: really kind of battle, what that decision is? Well? Is

692
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: this the right decision? And let's face it, part of

693
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: what makes this world we live in, in this life

694
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: we lead so fascinating is when we make a big decision,

695
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: whether it's in our personal life, for our professional life,

696
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: whether it's for millions of dollars, or whether it's not.

697
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: We don't know the outcome. We do not know what

698
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: is going to transpire over the next five, ten, twenty years.

699
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: We have no fucking clue. We're not we get all

700
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: drop dead in a week, you know, or we can

701
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: live another if we're thirty four years old, another who

702
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: knows with technology and health benefits, live another seventy eighty years,

703
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: which would be a long time. You'd be over one hundred.

704
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, I do think it'd

705
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: be way over one hundred actually, But there is a

706
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: benefit to owning your own company that once you receive

707
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: that after taxes, and you're in your mid thirty so

708
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: you have a lot of life to live now. I

709
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: don't know if you have, like another passion, you're going

710
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: to try to pursue something you like more. Let's just

711
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: assume that you like the construction business. You're clearly pretty

712
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: good at it, whatever your role is in the operation.

713
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: Like you guys are all crushing it's like one point

714
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: nine after taxes is a lot of money. There is

715
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: no our doing that. But like what are you just

716
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: going to live off that one point nine for the

717
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: rest of your life? Are you going to just retire

718
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: at thirty four years old? Like I honestly, the word

719
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: retirement sounds like you like what you do. Retirement's always

720
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: given me the he b gbs, Like I love golf.

721
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: I can play like two straight days, and then it's

722
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: like I want to do other stuff, Like I like

723
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: to work, I really do, and I don't plan, like

724
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: I hate that word. I really do, mainly because a

725
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of people that I've admired in my life like

726
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: kind of just they love what they do and they

727
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: work well into their seventies, and I think they like

728
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: doing it now. There's some of these people are business

729
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: owners like yourself, not like W two employees like my

730
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: mom worked for the government, retired at sixty four years old.

731
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: Obviously there are certain jobs you're going to retire, but like,

732
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: you need other things to fulfill your life, and I

733
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: just my thing would be the benefits of owning a

734
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: company are pretty for and not even just what your

735
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: company's worth, but the way you live your life now,

736
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: the stress aspect of it, that's a huge element. Like

737
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: if it's something that's driving you nuts, then I think

738
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: you got to factor that in. If it's having an

739
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: impact on your personal life with your family, then I

740
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: think you got to factor that in. But I think

741
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: it's fair to say the company you're operating, I think

742
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: if I took an educated guess, you're probably paying yourself

743
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars. You're living pretty well and

744
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: benefiting from the equity of the company, and like you said,

745
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: living through the company as you should. You guys took

746
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: all the fucking rests I would I would recommend keep

747
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: ripping and rolling it. Now I saw, you know, Buzz Williams,

748
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: the coach formerly of Texas A and M, just took

749
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: the Maryland job. And he's had like seven jobs. He

750
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: goes to Marquette, then he goes to Virginia Tech, then

751
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: he goes to Texa, A and M. Now he goes

752
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: to Maryland. And this guy was being interviewed and I

753
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: didn't even know who he was, but he said he

754
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: was friends with Buzz. And Buzz essentially treats these jobs

755
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: like a stock. He gets in low when they're shitty,

756
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: he builds them up and makes them good, but then

757
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: never stays around for like the second iteration of like, Okay,

758
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: let's take the next step and let's maintain this for

759
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: twenty years. That don't always work, and then you get

760
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: fired and then he just leaves and he just capitalizes

761
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: on it. And it's like if you knew that your company,

762
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: it's like this is peaked, Like we got to get out,

763
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: then obviously it's a no brainer. But if you go

764
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: wherever you live, whatever the market conditions, you're like, listen,

765
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: I might go through some ups and downs, but this

766
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: is going to be a pretty good, fruitful business moving forward.

767
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: ID hold on. That'd be if you can handle the stress. Again,

768
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like from a greedy standpoint, but and again,

769
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: if you think this is as good as its gonna get,

770
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: then obviously. But you know, like I don't know any

771
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: of those answers, just like most people when you ask

772
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 1: others for advice, like what should I do to get

773
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: involved with a football team? Like I can give you

774
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: the basic things, you know, hey, knock on people's doors,

775
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: shoot people, email, try, but it's like you kind of

776
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: just got to figure it out by yourself at a

777
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: certain point, and your kind of gut kind of leads

778
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: you that way. Like my dad. I didn't have family

779
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: or anyone that like football coaches or NFL scouts, Like fuck,

780
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: you just kind of got to figure it out and

781
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: you gotta trust your gut. And usually if you're a

782
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: smart guy and you sound like one, I think you'll

783
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: be okay. So good luck. That's it's tough decision, and

784
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. But I think you already know

785
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: the answer to what you're leaning toward. Business alum from

786
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: cal Poly, you're always talking about life as a road warrior.

787
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: When you were scouting. Are you a big credit card guy?

788
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: If so, what's your go to bank for points? We actually,

789
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, speaking of what's the best sandwich in San

790
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: Luis obispo hotly debated amongst the boys group chat the

791
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: other day. Well, obviously, when you're traveling a lot, and

792
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: most people, if you're listening to this business, travel a lot,

793
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna do something that involves an airline or a hotel.

794
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: So when I was scouting, I did the Marriott points

795
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,959
Speaker 1: and I've done that forever and we recently it should

796
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 1: be announced here relatively soon. Got actually a credit card

797
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: company with some points that actually I think is gonna

798
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: be I just started using it the points thing in theory,

799
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: it sounds great, but I started thinking the other day

800
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: with how much money I spent on a credit card

801
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: on a yearly basis and what I get at it

802
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: from the Marriott points, Like Okay, you got a free

803
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: two nights JW for the Super Bowl. It's like, okay, great,

804
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: I spent six figures on my fucking credit card bill

805
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: this year. It's like, that's all I'm getting here. And

806
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: it feels good when you get a free night hotel,

807
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: but it's like, are they taking advantage of me? So

808
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: I've made it a little pivot here recently, and we'll

809
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: be talking about that here in the near future. But

810
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: I think most guys in the scouting circles they spent

811
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: so many nights in Marriott's that it's like negligent and

812
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: not just be a maryad guy because you get so

813
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: many benefits. Best sandwich, I mean, it'd have to be

814
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: the try Tip at Firestone, which some would argue is

815
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: the best try tip in America, which is crazy to

816
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: think that in Central California try tip sandwich. There's gotta

817
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: be places, and like where barbecue is hot doesn't get

818
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: any better, And I'd put Firestone Fries, Tri Tip fries Elite.

819
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: If you're just talking normal sandwich, you know I haven't

820
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: lived there in I'm forty years old, so I haven't

821
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: lived there in eighteen plus years. Probably High Street Deli

822
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: that was big when I was there, had a pretty

823
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: good deli sandwich. Question for the mailbag, do you think

824
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is good enough to win a Super Bowl

825
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: with the Packers. I've seen flashes of excellence in the

826
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: second half of his first season as a starter, as

827
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: well as the playoff win versus Cowboys. He dealt with

828
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: the injuries last season, so I think that's why he

829
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: had a bit of a down last year. Also, where

830
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: would you rank him as a quarterback? Would you love

831
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: to know your thoughts. I think he's tough to rank.

832
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: He's I would say, a really you know, I used

833
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: to get this sometimes in school, like a incomplete I

834
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Speaker 1: n C. They even I mean some of your kids

835
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: probably going to school so they don't even give out grades.

836
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: We got grades, and if they weren't high enough. I

837
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: came from a generation where you got your ass kicked,

838
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: but those days are long gone. But I did get

839
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: my fair share of I n c's so I think

840
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: it's fair to do incomplete. He's really talented guy, a

841
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: lot of unknown. Last year was pretty bumpy, obviously the injuries.

842
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: His high end his first year starting was pretty good.

843
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: But I I would go in complete. Is he good

844
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: enough to win a Super Bowl with? I would also

845
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: say complete. Yeah, I would say based on what we

846
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: saw the flashes two years years ago? Yeah, but was

847
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: that a flash in the pan? I don't know. Time

848
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: will tell the nosewipe to wipe a guy's nose because

849
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: they banned it the other day from the NFL means

850
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: you get whacked mob style, a rap reference used mostly

851
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: by Atlanta rappers Slim them Out, also refers to the

852
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 1: same thing. Got to show you how to touch him.

853
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know any of that, okay, I mean if

854
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: that's if it's referring to I just put a hit

855
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: on that corner and I just score a touchdown. I

856
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: get it. I get it. I can see John Morant.

857
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I kind of appreciate John

858
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: Morant doing the double guns even though it's like it's

859
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: not a true double guns kind of a week, Like

860
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: that's really what he's getting fined for after Adam Silver

861
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: told him specifically not to do it shows you how

862
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,479
Speaker 1: little he respects the commissioner, how just irrelevant he thinks

863
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: that individual is. He literally called him and said, you

864
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: get here's a warning. You can't do that anymore. You've

865
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: already been in trouble somehow. You got suspended for like

866
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: forty games or twenty five games for brandishing a legal

867
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: weapon that you owned legally. But Adam Silver is like,

868
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: you cannot do that anymore. And John's like, yeah, fucking

869
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: do it. Five minutes into the next game. What are

870
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: you gonna do about it? I'm gonna find you seventy

871
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: five grand. Joe's like, I make thirty five million dollars.

872
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate that move by Jaw. I mean, it's crazy

873
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: how little these players they are, like, we love Adam Silver.

874
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: None of you guys listen to anything he says. I

875
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: love him too. It's like I love my substitute teacher.

876
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: Didn't make us do anything. Do you think the increase

877
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: in trades and player movement in general in American sports

878
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: is now similar to what we see in soccer? Do

879
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: you think American sports will fall suit with more coaches

880
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: being signed from other teams, like what happened in soccer,

881
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: I didn't Can you just buy a coach like you

882
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: can buy a player in soccer? I would say that

883
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: is never going to take place here. If you get

884
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: a good coach in basketball, football, you know, baseball, none

885
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: of the managers make any money. I can't really speak

886
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: to hockey, but in basketball and football, he's never gonna

887
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: be available like that. Sean Payton quit on the Saints

888
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: like they didn't plan on trading him to the Broncos.

889
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: He literally is like, yeah, I think we're fucked here.

890
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm out. It's like, gee, Shawn so two years ago.

891
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: That's why they kind of, you know, held it over

892
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: to the Broncos because they're like, we didn't want to

893
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: get rid of this guy. Very rare, the John Gruden situation,

894
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: and it just doesn't I think those days are done.

895
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: It's why it's so stupid when Jay Glazer reports like, yeah,

896
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: teams are going to try to trade for Kevin O'Connell's Like,

897
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: the Vikings are never trading you Kevin O'Connell. It's never happening,

898
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: and every team knows it. That's why they report, like,

899
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: come on, what do you think's going on here, trying

900
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: to get the guy some money rightfully, so good negotiating.

901
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: I think player movement, like, there's kind of always been

902
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: player movement. I mean maybe the NFL trades more, but

903
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean I think we've seen guys moving teams my

904
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: entire life, so I think that's probably a little overblown

905
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: now the way they do it. Let's say, like I'm

906
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and I want trying to pick a player.

907
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: I want Miles Garrett. Could I just buy Miles Garrett

908
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: from the Browns. Let's say I take his hundred million

909
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: dollars salary or contract and I pay the Browns like

910
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars. The NFL would never allow that, so

911
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: I would lean though, how much longer do you think

912
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: party contract negotiation will take. I think they should pay

913
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: him as long as it's less than Josh Allen by

914
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: some degree, by some degree, Josh Allen's got two hundred

915
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars guaranteed. I mean, by some degree, Josh Allen. Listen,

916
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: this is not shitting on Party. I like and respect

917
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: Party a lot, and it clearly you can win with them.

918
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's in a different stratosphere, so I don't know

919
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: how long this would take. These negotiations complicated, But to me,

920
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and brock Perdy are not in the same conversation,

921
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: Like they don't. It's like, it's like, shouldn't even put

922
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: those two names in the same world. Like the company

923
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: guy that emailed me. There are certain companies like my

924
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: company's worth nine ten million dollars, and then there's another

925
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: company that's worth five hundred million dollars. They both do

926
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: the same thing, like hey, we both build apartment complexes,

927
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: but they're not the same. And to me, Josh Allen,

928
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, the the initial offer from the

929
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: forty nine er should be like one hundred and twenty

930
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: million dollars. The Bills gave Josh Allen a two hundred

931
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: fifty million dollars guaranteed extension. He just got extended two

932
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: years ago. I mean, they're just because he's that good

933
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: longtime Chiefs fan. Since Joe Montana took us the AFC

934
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: Championship Game, why do many people believe the Chargers will

935
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: win the division over the Chiefs. With Rashi Rice and

936
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy as more developed wide receivers and with a

937
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: serviceable all line, Jalen Moore back up to Trent Williams.

938
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: I know he is, uh what, we'll see what position?

939
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, could he play right tackle, left tackle, Kingsley Sumada,

940
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: left guard Creed Humphrey, Trace Smith, and Jawan Taylor. Plus

941
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: they made multiple key additions to the defense. Yeah. I

942
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: just think that the Patriots, it felt like, won the

943
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: division nineteen of twenty years, right the years they will

944
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: winning the division. I mean, the Jets made the two

945
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: championship games. I think as a wild card, the one

946
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: year when Brady tore his ACL and eight and Castle started,

947
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: they didn't win the division. But I'm pretty sure beside

948
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: the eight season that the Patriots, let's go, I'm just

949
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: gonna use them as an example. So the Patriot It's divisions.

950
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: Basically from two thousand and three two thousand and one,

951
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: they won the division. Next year they finished second, they

952
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs. But from three till twenty nineteen,

953
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: the Patriots won the division every single year, beside the

954
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: one Brady towards ACL. The Bills I think are on

955
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: a plane to do something like that. If you tell

956
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: me they win the division, they've won it five straight years.

957
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: Let's say they win it. You know eleven of the

958
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: next twelve. I don't mean moving forward. I just mean

959
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: over the next seven. Maybe the Patriots win it once,

960
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: but if you tell me they do it all the time,

961
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: maybe a couple times. Because the variable and the Patriots

962
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: be pretty good, but you're dealing with Harbaugh and Sean

963
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,479
Speaker 1: Payton and Pete Carroll. Like the division is dramatically better

964
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: than it was a couple of years ago. A couple

965
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: of years ago it was Josh McDaniels, Brandon Staley and

966
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: Nate Hackett. So it's like you think Andy Reid is

967
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna listen to he wouldn't like he does have to. Obviously,

968
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: Andy just won fifteen games. He's an all time great coach.

969
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: But he'd be the first to tell you, like, this

970
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: is hard, this is really really hard. So there is

971
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 1: gonna be a year over the next couple where it's

972
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: like they might lose a division that they're still gonna

973
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. But yeah, I think the Charge is

974
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. I think Denver is gonna be

975
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's going to be hard, It's gonna be hard.

976
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: The Patriots really benefited, Like most of that time, the

977
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: Bills were a joke. The Dolphins always sucked. The Jets

978
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: are the Jets, and he owned the Jets, so it's

979
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: like it's it's I mean, the Chiefs could have lost

980
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: that game to the Broncos this year when he missed

981
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: the field goaler you gotta blocked. It's hard. The Raiders,

982
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they've occasionally beat him over the years.

983
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 1: But I think you can hold the Chiefs in really,

984
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: really high regard. They're one of the great teams we've

985
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: ever seen. So are the Bulls and they got pushed.

986
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, doesn't mean you always win the division,

987
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: so you can still win the Super Bowl. Help the

988
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs one year might win the Super Bowl as a wildcard.

989
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: We will end on this. This is this question. I

990
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: saw this before. I I've lately been taking screenshots so

991
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: it's easier than scrolling on Instagram. I just take you know,

992
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: like ten screenshots and reabount. But my question is anyone

993
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: that read Bill Simmons, Like fifteen years ago, he used

994
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 1: to end his columns with like these are my listeners

995
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: or these are my readers, And that's what I would

996
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: say here, these are my listeners. Hypothetical question, Say you

997
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: went out to dinner Andy Reid, Vince will Fork, and

998
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: Vida Veya at a brand new Indian me Mexican fusion

999
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: restaurant known for its exotic and spicy dishes. After dinner,

1000
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: you find yourself in a situation where you need to

1001
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: desperately use the bathroom and only three small, single person

1002
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: unventilated bathrooms are available, and you were beaten to them

1003
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: by all three who are having the same emergency. No

1004
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: other bathroom is in within range, so you are forced

1005
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: to wait for them to be done, and amazingly, after

1006
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: what feels like an eternity, they are all done at

1007
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: the same time. The question is which bathroom do you

1008
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: choose to go to and why? That's a great question

1009
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: and anyone that's ever had those moments. I vividly remember

1010
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: having one of those moments driving from Cowpaly to Fresno

1011
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: in California. You know, it's basically middle of nowhere part

1012
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: of the drive and a disaster struke different than this situation,

1013
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: but just had to pull over side of the road,

1014
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, middle of nowhere. I might have used like

1015
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: my T shirt to wipe, but in this situation, I

1016
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: think you don't even care. Yeah, at that point, in time,

1017
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: it does not matter. The no ventilation thing is just

1018
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,240
Speaker 1: probably the most underrated part about this, right courtesy. Flushes

1019
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: with no ventilation don't have the same power when there

1020
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 1: is a fan. I used to remember when I moved

1021
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: to San Francisco, a lot of the apartments slash condos,

1022
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: whatever you consider them, are old, so you would be

1023
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: with other people, especially if you're a single guy or

1024
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: single girl dating, and a lot of their bathroom situations

1025
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: and maybe if you listen live in big city like

1026
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: New York, you can relate to this. Some of the

1027
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: bathrooms just don't have a fan. And to me, the

1028
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: no ventilation, no fan means if you have thin walls,

1029
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: you can kind of hear what's going on there. So

1030
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: it's not even just the smell, which in this situation

1031
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: would not be great. It's the sounds, right. It's why

1032
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: sometimes if you're in that situation, you turn on the

1033
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: sink or something, maybe the shower, so no one hears

1034
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: you listen. I'm obviously in an emergency situation. You know,

1035
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: bakers can't be choosers here. You just kind of gotta

1036
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. But I'm kind of like

1037
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: a shit or elitist. I don't like sitting next to

1038
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: people in public restroom. Not that I won't use a

1039
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: public restroom, have no problem with doing that, but I'm

1040
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: a big believer, like I don't if I see stalls

1041
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: to say, there's four of them, I would never sit

1042
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: next to another guy. And when another person comes in

1043
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: when I'm in one, I get very like, I don't

1044
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: like that feeling. That's a very I just I'm an

1045
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: isolationist when it comes to that. I remember when I

1046
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: was at cal Pauly. By the time I was like

1047
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: my senior year, I had three or four bathrooms throughout

1048
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: campus that were like high end deans, you know, bathroom

1049
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: that they used that no one really knew existed. That

1050
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: I would hit like, I would never use the other bathrooms.

1051
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: A hack for travelers if you're ever in a predicament,

1052
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: especially in an area that you don't know, go to

1053
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: a hotel, Like, don't pull into the McDonald's or the

1054
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: Jack in the Box or Chevron, go to like the

1055
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: local Marriott or Hyatt or whatever. Just walk right in

1056
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: and just go to the bathroom. They were always nice

1057
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: and taking care of and then you just walk right out.

1058
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: It's not like they question you. They don't know who's

1059
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: coming in and out. That's always been a hack. But

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Speaker 1: to your question, in those situations it's out of your control.

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Speaker 1: You just go to the first door you see and

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Speaker 1: you just deal with it. Yeah, I appreciate the question, though,

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Speaker 1: I really do the volume