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Speaker 2: Well that's right, you heard the man. It is that

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Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Froddle. We are

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Speaker 2: coming to live from the Fox Sports Radio studios here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. We'll take you up to three am Pacific,

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Speaker 2: show for you tonight. How about that thunder? I thought

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Speaker 2: the uh? I thought the Pacers were supposed to be

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Speaker 2: the comeback kids. We'll talk about that. Mark Ndina coming

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Speaker 2: up in about twenty minutes. Aaron Rodgers was in mini camp.

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Speaker 2: But let's take a look at the big picture. What

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Speaker 2: should this dealers really expect this year? We got another

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Speaker 2: fantastic ben That hour was callers and make it fantastic.

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Speaker 2: But I got three topics you'll get a kick out

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Speaker 2: of one serious, one a little whimsical. And I think

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have a hell of a lot of fun

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Speaker 2: with that brand new editions of brand New fool and

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Speaker 2: what my Name? And we're even gonna talk a little

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Speaker 2: Shoho Tani. I think he's gonna come back to the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers rotation, and sooner than you think. I will tighten

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Speaker 2: that up later in the show. But we begin with

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Speaker 2: an axiom that I've said if I had a nickel

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Speaker 2: every time I said it, I'd have my own private

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Speaker 2: playing with twenty four hour access, you see, because you

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Speaker 2: know how I feel, sports are the greatest reality show invented.

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Speaker 2: And you can script everything about the ending and Friday

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Speaker 2: which yet another example of that. And just when you

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Speaker 2: think you've seen it all, you see something new, because,

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Speaker 2: let's face it, the OKC Thunder flipped the script. Let's

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Speaker 2: break it down now. Just six minutes into Game four,

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals game Friday night, Oka see trailed by nine,

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Speaker 2: and this vaunted defense that we'd seen all year, which

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Speaker 2: was legitimate, had already surrendered twenty four points in the

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Speaker 2: first six minutes. Okay, that tracks to one hundred and

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Speaker 2: ninety two. If they had kept that up. Well, obviously

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Speaker 2: that didn't happen. The Thunder. They'd gone back to their

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Speaker 2: double twin towers starting lineup with you know, chet holm

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Speaker 2: who'd had some issues with that earlier in the series,

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Speaker 2: well they had no trouble with it. They ran circles

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Speaker 2: around them. Then things didn't get much better when chet

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Speaker 2: Holmgren went to the bench, the Pacers they were doing

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Speaker 2: what they do. They play with pace, they play quick,

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Speaker 2: they play confident, they play with swagger. They are crisp,

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Speaker 2: and they looked unstoppable. Oh it didn't hurt that they

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Speaker 2: started banging threes. Meanwhile, Okase couldn't buy a three, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, shay Gilgess it felt like he

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Speaker 2: he usually is able to do. And oh yeah, Gamebridge

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Speaker 2: Fieldhouse was going bananas. So all of a sudden, you'd

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Speaker 2: be untrue if in the back of your mind, if

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Speaker 2: you're an Okase fan, doubt really didn't start to creep in,

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Speaker 2: And all of a sudden you're holding mental pictures of

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Speaker 2: what you don't want to happen. That's called fear. The

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Speaker 2: prospect of going down three to one. The Thunder they

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Speaker 2: were getting a stiff test. Were they really a championship team?

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Speaker 2: Do they really have the heart of a champion? See

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Speaker 2: now they're on the biggest stage, But you didn't win

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Speaker 2: sixty eight games by just being mere front runners. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: there you've spen questioning the relative inexperience hasn't been seen

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Speaker 2: The question is could they be resilient. Someone always has

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Speaker 2: He powerstepped to a basket for free throws and a

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Speaker 2: Carlile coached him, and then four oh five was supposed

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Speaker 2: so all of a sudden, Jim is. The first quarter,

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Speaker 2: next three quarters was a heavyweight bout, body blow after

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Speaker 2: looked like they would not relinquish it, and then all

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Speaker 2: it looked like, how does this not go three up?

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Speaker 2: kept cycling through different lineup combinations, rotations, They tried multiple

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Speaker 2: running in circles. Their offense was stagnant. I could give

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Speaker 2: Had his worst defensive game in the playoffs. The Thunder.

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Speaker 2: The Thunder were on fumes. They struggled to keep the

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Speaker 2: get it. It just kept it just didn't get better

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Speaker 2: until it did all of a sudden. Jalen Williams started

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Speaker 2: raining gasoline that kept OKC within what do you want

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Speaker 2: to call it? Striking distance? And remember the Lakers used

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Speaker 2: He's blowing up actions on defense, he was battling to

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Speaker 2: in the day. And he was the one thunder player

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Speaker 2: on both ends of the floor. And all of this

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Speaker 2: finally set the stage for Shay Gilgess, who I believe

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Speaker 2: his potential heroics. This is where hearers are made. In

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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, he scored fifteen points in the final

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Speaker 2: And it turns out all the strategies and tactics in

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Speaker 2: know wrinkle that Mark Dagnault mate. With just under four

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Speaker 2: an adjustment. They probably won Game four. Andrew Nemhard had

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Speaker 2: Shay kept scoring and getting a foul call three times

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, the Pacers couldn't make threes.

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Speaker 2: They missed eight of their three point attempts in the

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Speaker 2: old conspiracy theory in the Indiana. You know, blah blah blah,

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Speaker 2: look at OKC, this was an incredible show of grit,

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Speaker 2: physical fortitude, mental toughness, mental stamina. And now they become

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Speaker 2: the first team in fifteen years to win a finals

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Speaker 2: Nolan Ryan once said, the mark of a champion is

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Speaker 2: when you beat a team you don't have your best stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 2: out with an incredible road victory. It wasn't pretty, it

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Speaker 2: Can they take a punch? We know they dole them out.

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Speaker 2: They said they could, and they did huge credit to

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Speaker 2: As I said in the beginning, expect the unexpected because

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Speaker 2: everything but the inning. Yes, I'm very much looking forward

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Speaker 2: So quickly because I don't want to dwell on it.

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Speaker 2: Another guy who appears that he is inevitably on the move.

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Speaker 2: It looks like the Kevin Durant in game in Phoenix

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Bernie, we've been talking about the Heat the

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Speaker 5: And here's why. They love Kevin Durant as a player.

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Speaker 2: At least for now, he's staying put on the Bucks

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Speaker 5: It's very fluid. I mean, Brian, he is plugged in

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Speaker 5: He means a lot to their business in terms of

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Speaker 5: It's all legit, but I think deadlines have a way

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Speaker 5: I'm saying is I'll be very surprised if he actually

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Speaker 5: short term long term needs. Never is going to be

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Speaker 2: Talking with Mark medeena Madina Magic every Saturday night here

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Speaker 2: on the Bernie Fradleshaw or Fox Sports Radio NBA Guru. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Steven Adams got himself a message of Tayday. He's got

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Speaker 5: three options here, but again that's not guaranteed, partly because

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Speaker 5: of what you just said. They don't have a lot

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Speaker 5: of cap space to work with, and it's likely going

431
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Speaker 5: to have to result and then making a trade, whether

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Speaker 5: it's including Austin Reeves in the centerpiece as a centerpiece,

433
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Speaker 5: if not patching together Rui Atchama Dori and Finney Smith

434
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Speaker 5: cape Vincent. But I want to be surprised if at

435
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Speaker 5: least one of those three players are on the Lakers

436
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 5: team next year. Doesn't solve everything, but at least gives

437
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Speaker 5: them some center depth. And you know what, that's asking

438
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Speaker 5: a lot because they had no center depth last playoffs.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna come off the tap roup and

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Speaker 2: throw a name. How about Walter Kessler in Utah. I

441
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Speaker 2: know they're I know they're not opening openly shopping them,

442
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: but he's the kind of room protector and rebounder that

443
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Speaker 2: could really help them.

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Speaker 5: Oh, no doubt, great fit. The Lakers love Walker Kessler.

445
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Speaker 5: I just don't think that Danny and just gonna to

446
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Speaker 5: make him available. He would be wanting to sell the

447
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 5: farm because that's how the NYGE operates, and the Lakers,

448
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 5: for all their roster needs, priority number one being the

449
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 5: center spot. They also want to protect their roster depth.

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Speaker 5: It could be a lot better, but also could be

451
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Speaker 5: a lot worse. They don't want to go down the

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Speaker 5: route where the roster depth is just all veteran, minimum

453
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Speaker 5: type guys. So I don't think Walker Cussler's going anywhere,

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Speaker 5: especially not the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Well, can the Lakers afford Clint Capella? You signed a

456
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Speaker 2: forty five million dollars deal. I think they're going to

457
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Speaker 2: have I think they're going to really run into a

458
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Speaker 2: brick wall here. And I was there one more name

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Speaker 2: I want to mention coming in a left field Jalen

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Speaker 2: Durant from the Pistons. What are your thoughts on him? Possibly?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he really moves the needle much.

462
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Speaker 5: But to your point about Clay Capella, Yeah, that's what

463
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Speaker 5: I'm saying. They're going to have to package a trade

464
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Speaker 5: here now. It is in the devil in the details.

465
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Speaker 5: I think Austin Reeves is a great player. He's not untouchable,

466
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Speaker 5: but he's young talent. I think he co exists really

467
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Speaker 5: well with Luka Doncic, and there's something to be said

468
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Speaker 5: for a player that just continues to get better and better,

469
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Speaker 5: and so it has to be a thing where this

470
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Speaker 5: is going to put them over the top. So with

471
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Speaker 5: Clint Capella, they're going to have to max salary, and

472
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Speaker 5: that's the challenging part because Austin Reeves doesn't make that

473
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Speaker 5: kind of money, but also has to be a move

474
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Speaker 5: where it's clear, Okay, this puts them into not necessarily

475
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Speaker 5: championship contending favorite. But now they're part of the conversation.

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Speaker 5: And it's not just oh, Lebron James is back and

477
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Speaker 5: Luka Dodgrige's back. It's that they have some other good

478
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Speaker 5: pieces that can really help them defensively as well as

479
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Speaker 5: give Luka Doncicch that big lob threat that he's used

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Speaker 5: to playing with during his career.

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Speaker 2: So here's why I mentioned Galen Duran. It's Jerry westbro

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Speaker 2: alive and I could call him, I would, and he was.

483
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Speaker 2: He made four million last year. He played seventy eight

484
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Speaker 2: games and averaged a double double, including almost eleven rebounds

485
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Speaker 2: a game. He's only twenty one years old. I'm just

486
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Speaker 2: saying now, there is one other scenario that I think

487
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Speaker 2: could happen, maybe as soon as tomorrow. What if the

488
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Speaker 2: Lakers traded Bronni for Nicole Jokic.

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Speaker 5: You know what, don't be surprised when that happens. If

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Speaker 5: he does that does happen, Ron Polinka is guaranteed a

491
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Speaker 5: win Executive of the Year.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's yeah, there's no way the Lakers take that

493
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Speaker 2: to you. I mean, Bronni's got the whole world in

494
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Speaker 2: front of him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, I mean there's more Out and brown

496
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Speaker 5: were Nicole Jokers. He's kind of peeking right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: they probably should.

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Speaker 2: Well, you got to remember too, let's fast forward to

499
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Speaker 2: your twenty thirty four when Lebron I don't know if

500
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Speaker 2: I want to retire this year, you know, ten years

501
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Speaker 2: from now, that was his farewell tour and have Bryce

502
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Speaker 2: and Brownie in the back court. And who doesn't want

503
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Speaker 2: to see that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? And I mean we also have to keep in

505
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Speaker 5: mind that it's not just about Broun and Lebron playing,

506
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Speaker 5: it's Lebron, Braun and Bryce playing.

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Speaker 2: That's a point, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Brin Brice

508
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Speaker 2: would be a ten year veteran.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean when you think of the big

510
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Speaker 5: all time big trios in the NBA, you know, watch

511
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Speaker 5: out because they're gonna make some noise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to sit down my hipseit go soak

513
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: my head all right before real quickly before we get

514
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Speaker 2: to the finals. Look, I don't know. We are in

515
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: a society where people love to play gotcha, and we

516
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: elevate people to their highest plateau whatever it is in life, sports, politics,

517
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: only to tear them down. So people couldn't wait to

518
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: kick Steven A. Smith in the nuts. Were playing Solitaire

519
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: last night while the NBA game was going on. Do

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Speaker 2: you have any comment on this because I had to

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Speaker 2: hold my nose to bring this up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean everyone's entitled to handle their working responsibilities

523
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Speaker 5: out of game. I just don't think it's.

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Speaker 4: Good to do that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, of course, not such at all, Like this

526
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Speaker 5: is your job to watch the games, very paid, handsomely.

527
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Speaker 5: I think fans have every right to feel upset that

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Speaker 5: someone who has that kind of platform is, you know,

529
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Speaker 5: looking at the phone and playing a card game.

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Speaker 2: Wiles are going on. It's a terrible look. But the

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Speaker 2: unfortunate reality is, and you've been around the media long

532
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Speaker 2: enough to know he ain't the only one that does

533
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Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. That is true that it's very

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Speaker 2: bothersome to me that you're out in the air for

535
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Speaker 2: a short amount of time, but you can't lock down,

536
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Speaker 2: you know, I I you know you're dead to me.

537
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Speaker 2: But look, stephen A is teflone man right now. And

538
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Speaker 2: I like steven A and no one likes the name dropper,

539
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: but had dinner with steven A back in two thousand

540
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Speaker 2: and five with Fishbones and Detroit with Rob Parker, so

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Speaker 2: he's a good dude.

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Speaker 4: Look, And I know you know that.

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Speaker 2: So I had to bring it up because everybody else

544
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Speaker 2: is right, I can't be read. Yeah, all right, let's

545
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Speaker 2: let's go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, it doesn't make it acceptable when

547
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Speaker 5: you're at the game. Yeah, it doesn't mean you have

548
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 5: to be charting players like a scout, but you're you're

549
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 5: there to work, so you're either watching the game or

550
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Speaker 5: you're talking to people involved with game. You executive scouts,

551
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: et cetera. You can't be, you know, doing something that

552
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Speaker 5: you do in your downtime. You know you're there to work.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the worst look is playing solitaire. If

554
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Speaker 2: he's going to be distracted. Who that wants to play solitaire?

555
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Speaker 2: I don't played solitaire in my damn life.

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Speaker 5: If you know what I mean. There could have been

557
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Speaker 5: a lot worse thing.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's it. We'll leave it there, my friend,

559
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: We'll leave it there. Luca with the noises in the

560
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: background at the Mavericks of years ago. All right. Bottom line,

561
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 2: we got a hell of a series. I really am

562
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: loving this series to death. We're down to a best

563
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Speaker 2: of three. I can't change my pick. I right with Indiana.

564
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: Does the new start to tighten on this ilksee teams

565
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: they try to close out the series or you know

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Speaker 2: you're gonna stick to your guns.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think anything can go. This series has been

568
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 5: very competitive, but I think that had the Thunder not

569
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Speaker 5: one Game four, the Pacers would have won the series.

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Speaker 5: It's much different having a three to one series lead

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Speaker 5: than it being tied two to two. I think I

572
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Speaker 5: I thought, I've thought all along the Thunder are going

573
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Speaker 5: to win this series, even after the lost Game one,

574
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Speaker 5: even after the lost Game three, because it's been competitive

575
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 5: on paper to the Thunder are the better team. I

576
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Speaker 5: think they've learned throughout the series that they have to

577
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Speaker 5: raise their game to another level. Not only is about

578
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Speaker 5: shake goes Alexander, and he was a huge part in

579
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Speaker 5: their game four win. But it's also about their supporting cast,

580
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 5: their top ranked defense with their wings for the simple

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Speaker 5: reason that the Indiana Pacers have shown that they have

582
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Speaker 5: to tap into everything. Tyres Halberton raised in his game

583
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Speaker 5: to another level, being more consistent not just as a

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Speaker 5: playmaker but score, but having a reliable set of supporting

585
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Speaker 5: cast members from Pascal Siakam to Andrew Nempart to TJ

586
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Speaker 5: McConnell on down. So this is a game that's going

587
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 5: to go back and forth. It's anyone serious. But if

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Speaker 5: I had to take a guess, it will be the

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Speaker 5: Thunder because now they have home court advantage and on

590
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 5: paper they had the better team. Shake godess, Alexander's the MVP,

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Speaker 5: he's a better score, he's a little bit older than

592
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Speaker 5: Tyris Alburton, and they just have the top rank defense

593
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 5: that knows how to how to force a lot of turnovers.

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Speaker 5: So tune in, though it's gonna be a fun one.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Mark, what was those last three minutes? I

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Speaker 2: was playing Solitaire?

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Speaker 6: Mark?

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Speaker 2: Great stuff is always my man. Can't wait till next Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there's gonna be a lot more and uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, after Monday, we've got Thursday, and I do

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Speaker 2: think we will be looking at a game seven to

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Speaker 2: talk about next Saturday nights. Mark, we'll talk to you then.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Mark Medina, Medina Magic, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: NBA guru. You hear him on my show, Beronnie Faders

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Speaker 2: Show every Saturday night. Coming up, I have three tremendous

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Speaker 2: topics for the midnight hour twenty minutes from now. It's

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Speaker 2: midnight literally in Las Vegas. From where I say, perhaps

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Speaker 2: you as well, but figuraively it's a midnight hour. Its

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Speaker 2: your finger exercises at eight seven seven nine nine six

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Speaker 2: Will break down those topics. Coming up. I'm Bernie fraddlework

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Speaker 2: comedy line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tireck

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Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. Yes, I did it again. You listened

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Speaker 2: to Bernie Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

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Speaker 2: back in the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio. We

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Speaker 2: are thirteen minutes away from the midnight hour eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine, eight seven

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Speaker 2: forward to hearing from you. It will be twelve midnight

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. But we've got people listening from around the world,

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Speaker 2: midnight hour figuratively we are at all right. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: lay out three topics. I'm betting you're gonna love the

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Speaker 2: second one the most, but the first one is all right.

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Speaker 2: The House versus NCAA settlement is in the books now.

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Speaker 2: It's massive for the future of college sports. Starting on

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Speaker 2: July first, schools will be able to share a little

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Speaker 2: over twenty million with its student athletes. And look, the

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Speaker 2: football players will get the most, and the men's basketball

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. You know about all that. But Paul Finebaum,

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Speaker 2: a highly respected, you know, media mogul in the South,

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Speaker 2: believes that quote college sports says, we know it are

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Speaker 2: not over come on, man. Really, I know things aren't

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Speaker 2: going to be the same. But there's been an evolution

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Speaker 2: of college sports going for one hundred years. And I understand,

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Speaker 2: you know, you try to balance tradition with modernization. But

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Speaker 2: he hates this and he in his opinion matters. It's

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Speaker 2: a billion dollar industry, but it's going to be very

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Speaker 2: uneven in the future, he feels. And in college football

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Speaker 2: as we know, it is over. Okay, I want to

643
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Speaker 2: hear your thoughts. You tell me you're not going to

644
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: watch it? Or when the you watch a terrific seventy

645
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: five yard run or arch Manning, you know, complete a

646
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: pass for sixty years ago? What that was beautiful? But man,

647
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: the game's over because these kids are getting paid, they've

648
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: been getting paid now they're just getting guardrails around it.

649
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: So I want to hear your thoughts. How do you

650
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: feel about the house versus the NCAA settlement and moreover,

651
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: Paul Finebaund's comments, well you still watch? Does it affect

652
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: the way you watch? Does it bother you? All Right?

653
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 2: This number two topic is abute. I can't wait to

654
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: hear what you've got to say. I'm not going to

655
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: make a big deal out of the fact that NBA

656
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: w NBA ratings were down fifty five percent across the

657
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: board the two weeks Caitlyn Clark was out. She returned

658
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: just in time to knock off the Indian at Liberty.

659
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: You saw what happened on Saturday, and maybe it did.

660
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: At least you heard about it a big deal. The

661
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: ratings are down what you expect, and maybe they'll go

662
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: back up now the Caitlin's here, But that's not why

663
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Speaker 2: I am posing this to be a midnight hour topic.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: I've been pretty fair to the WNBA, saying I think

666
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: the product's decent. Okay, they play a good brand of

667
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: basketball below the rim, but there's there's passing, there's shooting,

668
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: there's playmaking, there's boxing out, there's you know, switching on defense,

669
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: there's real it's competitive. I'm just bored by it. It's

670
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: what I call the Canadian Football League cindrome. They don't

671
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: really know who's playing. You don't know what the rivalries are.

672
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: And that's what America needs and wants. Gotta be identity.

673
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: So two years ago, when the Las Vegas Ainates has

674
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: won the championship, here Clay Travis, who's a pretty successful guy.

675
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: You might not like him, that's a you problem, and

676
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 2: you don't have to like him, but there are objective

677
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: truths and there are personal feelings. The dude's successful and

678
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 2: he's got an audience. He really diminished the WNBA by

679
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: saying he didn't think the Aces could beat a high

680
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: school state champion team, and I think he tweeted it

681
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: out and one of the Aces is not going to

682
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: mention her name said she called him a dumbass. Well,

683
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: how about play the game. Come on, I'm not being

684
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: funny here. Let's do it in all the many do

685
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: whatever your favorite charity is. You tell me you wouldn't

686
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: watch that, and who would win? I'll tell you later

687
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: who I think would win. And I don't think it

688
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: would be particularly close. But I want to hear what

689
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Speaker 2: the callers think. Seven seven nine, nine sixty six, three

690
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: sixty nine would the WNBA chance be it a high

691
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: school state championship team? Yes? Or no? Would you watch that?

692
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: Is it a stupid thing to even mention? And somehow

693
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: I have to try to pose this in a in

694
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Speaker 2: a context to where we're not putting anybody down here.

695
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: It's just a talking point. Okay, they either would or

696
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: they wouldn't, and so I will see what the opinions are.

697
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: So I'm dying to hear that. The third thing is

698
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: I can't not not talk about Shador Sanders when you've

699
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: got your reputable people on our network saying they think

700
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: he should start. What are you talking about? Okay, now, look,

701
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Speaker 2: I don't dislike Shador Sanders. I like him actually, and

702
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: he looks like a happy, lucky kid, so happy to

703
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: be in the NFL. I think it's awesome. You know

704
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 2: what the great story would be, Dick shaff took me

705
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: to roof of the story. What if he becomes a

706
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: starter and they went to the playoffs?

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00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: What if for the next two years Shador Sanders was

709
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: seven and five and win a playoff game? Tell me

710
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: if you think that would be good. It's a trick question,

711
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna pay off the t's when at the

712
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: end of the men that hour. So what if you

713
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: went seven and five and won a playoff games? You door?

714
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 2: But what the hell are you going to evaluate? In

715
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: shorts and helmets? Maybe throwing mechanics, arm strength. The problem

716
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: is when you put a kid in shorts and helmets,

717
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: you don't really learn. As much as Colin carrd wants

718
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: you to believe, there's no game simulation. It's a completely

719
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: controlled environment of drills. There's no way you're even coming

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Speaker 2: close to replicating any kind of chaos and pressure of

721
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: a real game where a quarterback has two seconds to

722
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: make a decision under the rest against the live defense,

723
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: with trained killers coming after and with bad intentions. There's

724
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Speaker 2: no way a shorts and helmet's drill accounts for pocket presence.

725
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: Can you navigate the pocket? Can you sense pressure? Can

726
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: you extend plays? You're not gonna find that out. You're

727
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: not gonna find out about football IQ. Someone's reported, and

728
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's true. So coolier jets don't

729
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: listen selectively that Chador did not do well in one

730
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 2: whiteboard exercises. I don't know if he did or he didn't.

731
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't there, But I do know this, having covered

732
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: the NFL for all long time and the Lions from

733
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: ten years up close and personal, A shorts and helmets

734
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Speaker 2: drill does not allow you to make pre snapp adjustments,

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00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 2: call audibles, redefenses. And finally, it doesn't really show medical

736
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 2: or physical toughness, which Schador did show a lot of.

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00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: I thought at Colorado. Okay, so I get it that

738
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 2: shorts and helmet's drills they provide some information for evaluating

739
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: quarterback prospects, but I keep you know, Colin kept showing

740
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: that same highlight, the same one three times over with

741
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: the guy runs a straight fly and he's covered in

742
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 2: Dean chanders or shade or hits him. Any five star,

743
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: three star high school quarterback would have made that damn throw.

744
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 2: So are you buying the Shador Sanders hype just because

745
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: of shorts and helmets? There's one hundred and twenty quarterbacks

746
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 2: in mini camp this week we keep talking about the

747
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: same one. Okay? Cool? So those are our midnight hour topics?

748
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 2: Is college football over as we know it? According to

749
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 2: Faull fine Bomb thanks to House versus NCAA, will you watch,

750
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: I will, I'll kick? I'm stealing one from him three

751
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: years ago, would the NWNBA champion be a high school

752
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: state champion team? And the third one, are you buying

753
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: the Shador Sanders height? I just gave you my my

754
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: long term experience breakdown and what a shortz and helmets

755
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: drill really is? So those are your three topics? Shadeur

756
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: WNBA versus high School team and House versus nca eight

757
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: seven seven nine to nine on Fox eight seven seven

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00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: nine nine six six three sixty nine. It is the

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00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: Midnight Hour and the Bernie Fraddle Show. Let's hear from you,

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: Do're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. It is that time

763
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Speaker 2: of week. As we continue on with the Bernie Fraddle Show.

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Speaker 2: We continue rolling right along from the Fox Sports Radio

765
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Speaker 2: studios here in Vegas. Take after three m Pacific, six

766
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: am Eastern. We have three excellent topics on the midnight

767
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: hour tonight, House versus NCAA with the nw NBA champs,

768
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: be the high school state champion team and the Shedor Sanders.

769
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: Happy you're buying it now? Before I get to my sounder,

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00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: I apologize these things happening radio. We'll do the best

771
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: we can. We only have one phone line working tonight,

772
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: and Jim will get to you in just a second,

773
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: So if you dial in and get a busy signal,

774
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna do the best we can. I really do

775
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: want to hear from you. So we'll go through the

776
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: callers and as one drops, a line will open and

777
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: if you can can dial in, great. We it's the

778
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: callers who truly make the midnight hour go. So if

779
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: you'll just bear with us, I think we can limp

780
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: through this and still have a rock solid midnight hour.

781
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: So without further ado, it's the midnight hour again. After

782
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: we wrap with Jim, A line will open and we'll

783
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: do it the old fashioned way. I guess if that's whatever, Jim,

784
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: welcome in. But what do you got for us tonight?

785
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 4: Hey, how's it going? Brilliant?

786
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 6: Let's think about the NBA team playing the high school

787
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 6: championship team. I don't even look at stuff like that.

788
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 6: I don't even care about stuff like that.

789
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: Why would you do that? I mean, it's a boys,

790
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 2: Clay Travis, it's two years old to your little topic

791
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: because the league is struggling to get at sea legs, Jim.

792
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 2: But good, go ahead.

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00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 6: Yeah. But the thing is, I watched that game last

794
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 6: night and I got to tell you something, and I

795
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 6: heard her talk afterwards, Dak Caitlin Clark is the real deal.

796
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 6: She's got a mind for the game like Larry Bird

797
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 6: because and she's just like him too.

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Speaker 7: You know.

799
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 6: She keeps to herself, she's quiet. She does all her

800
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 6: talking on the floor, you know, by her play, not

801
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 6: with her mouth like them other people. And you know,

802
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 6: it's it's just a great thing that people should experience

803
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 6: because people like that only come along once in a lifetime,

804
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 6: you know, and they all stop there whining and crying

805
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 6: and just enjoy her while she's here and with that

806
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 6: going on there. But like the LEA, it's just I

807
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 6: watched the game.

808
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 7: A lot of the people were.

809
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 6: Missing open shots on both teams. It's just it's just

810
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 6: they're not like because you what do you measure against.

811
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 6: You measured against the game, the pro game, the guy's game,

812
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 6: and they don't miss most of the time. If they miss,

813
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 6: they're not playing. But in wa WNBA, they're all missing.

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00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 6: So you know that's the difference there.

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00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 2: You know with them, do you think on house first,

816
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: the NCAA or the shoe door standards site.

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Speaker 7: I should should do it.

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Speaker 6: I think he'll be okay. I think you know, he's

819
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 6: a diamond or rough. We'll see what happens. I think

820
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 6: he's gonna make it. I don't know how good it

821
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 6: will be. I think he'll make it. But I got

822
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 6: to remember the Patriots had this kid that played quarterbacks

823
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 6: backing up bless all whoever. I forgot who he was

824
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 6: from Kim he.

825
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: Was twenty he was I covered him in Michigan. He

826
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,399
Speaker 2: was twenty and five as the starter. And if you're

827
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Speaker 2: going to compare him to shoot door, my man, don't

828
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: we don't we don't need to get that off the ground.

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Speaker 2: That's just a non starter.

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Speaker 6: No, but no, I think his name is Michael Ship.

831
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 6: You played at Kansas State.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'll tell you a story. Really, Jim, I want

833
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: to do their callers. It's good on you bringing that up.

834
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: That's a great I'm sorry, my bad I went. I

835
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: thought we were gonna mention Brady anything real quickly at

836
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Speaker 2: the NCAA.

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Speaker 6: Not with the NCAA, I mean whatever, but I mean

838
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 6: with the with the Bishop thing.

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Speaker 4: He was so good.

840
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 6: They thought he was next to Michael Vick.

841
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 4: But he just couldn't read.

842
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 6: He couldn't read a playbook, he couldn't read defenses. Even

843
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 6: when you showed film, he just couldn't get it. And

844
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 6: you know, that's the way it is with some guys.

845
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter what the game you see.

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00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the next level?

847
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 6: You know, that's where you get that into the problems.

848
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: That's right, buddy, all right, thanks Jim eight seven seven, nine,

849
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Speaker 2: nine six six three sixty nine. Who's ever up next?

850
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: Will take your car? Look forward to Jim brought up

851
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: a great name because Michael Bishop was a terrific option

852
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: quarterback at Kansas State back in what ninety eight, ninety nine,

853
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: and he got drafted by the New England Patriots. And

854
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: what's interesting is Tom Brady came and they had a

855
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: very crowded quarterback room and one of them was going

856
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Speaker 2: to get caught, and they had a I think seven

857
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Speaker 2: of the coaches voted, and six of the seven voted

858
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Speaker 2: to cut Brady, and he was overruled by the head

859
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Speaker 2: coach there at the time, Bill Belichick, who ended up

860
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Speaker 2: keeping obviously Tom Brady. That was the right decision, and uh,

861
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Speaker 2: you know, the rest is history. But great, good on you,

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Speaker 2: Jim Alan and Saint Louis joined just Allen, Welcome into

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 8: Hey, I got it early that night this morning, how

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Speaker 8: you doing, Bernie, Good buddy, and I want to say

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Speaker 8: hello to the lovely baby who always answered the phone.

867
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Speaker 2: All right, we want to get to the quest, thank you,

868
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: but we want to get to the topics as quickly

869
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Speaker 2: as we're having a real phone issue.

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Speaker 8: Ah see, Okay, first and fourth, the college is just heard,

871
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 8: you know every time that there's some kind of different

872
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 8: rule of something funny and people, what's going to ruin

873
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 8: college football? Nothing U in college football?

874
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: Good point, good point.

875
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 8: I'm going to continue to watch it. Let's face it,

876
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 8: the same teams are going to be good regardless of

877
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 8: what the rules are. You know, the SEC and the

878
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 8: big team are going to dominate. So people just have

879
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 8: they either accept it or they don't. And I think

880
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 8: once the season starts, it's gonna be a bunch of

881
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 8: stadiums and field up at the TV.

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00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: That's a great call, Allen. Anything on door or the

883
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: w n b A.

884
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Speaker 8: And you know this shador thing, you know, I think

885
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 8: anytime you can evaluate somebody wearing shorts and no defense

886
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 8: against them, I take it with the great assault. People

887
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 8: got to have something to talk about. So we'll see

888
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Speaker 8: whether he's good or not.

889
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Speaker 2: You're on fire, Allen, You're on fire. Anything on on

890
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: the w n b A. If they you't played, it's.

891
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 8: The biggest it's the biggest joke in the world. First

892
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 8: of all, who rules they do they play under? Do

893
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 8: you play the thirty two minute game high school girls?

894
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Speaker 8: Or do you play the forty games?

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about high school boys playing. That's how Clay

896
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Speaker 2: Travis said. You can play whatever you want. You can

897
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Speaker 2: play the two twenty. You can make the rules whatever

898
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Speaker 2: you want. We don't need to split hairs.

899
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Speaker 8: Let's face it, have you seen some of the way

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Speaker 8: big players now these played as a big Yeah?

901
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, but I but but that's fair and there's

902
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Speaker 2: more life than just size. Take the last word, Allen.

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Speaker 8: I think, I think I think the w NBA players

904
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Speaker 8: would beat the high school team. But let's face it,

905
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 8: when these guys get tired, put this bench guys in

906
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Speaker 8: sot of later, and I think that's where they're gonna lose.

907
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Speaker 2: All Right, Allen, who's a nailed all three subjects? Great call?

908
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Speaker 2: Look uh And we had a tweeter. A guy tweeted

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Speaker 2: Bill Kittle from l A S's a w A A

910
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Speaker 2: w NBA team would wax a state champion w NBA

911
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 2: picking rules of a battle they played defense from twenty

912
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: seven feet from the basket. Yeah, I'll save my opinion

913
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Speaker 2: for the end. We'll just leave it there. My man,

914
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Speaker 2: Jerome Jerome three point sixteen for Jerome so loved the

915
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: world He called Bernie Frattle Show, among others, shows so

916
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: that the world might be a better place. What do

917
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: they got for us tonight? Jerome?

918
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Speaker 7: Hey, you keep your needle sharp, don't you? Anyway? Tell

919
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 7: our Craig travelers if he played one of those high

920
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 7: level WNBA women one on one, he'd get his ass kicked. Okay,

921
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Speaker 7: because dark woman on shape. Man, you ever seen someone

922
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 7: walking to the hallway. Hey, I wouldn't mess with damn boy.

923
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Speaker 7: I saw that Chelsey Plump she put together all right. They'

924
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 7: a nanny poun Weaklington. They look wait and run and

925
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 7: all that.

926
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Speaker 9: He gets that's true going out.

927
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Speaker 7: Okay, So he's trying to pick people. I want him

928
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Speaker 7: to play one I don't want. Let's see about that.

929
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Speaker 7: Put his put his body on the line. Don't put

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Speaker 7: somebody else on the line. Put his mouth and his

931
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Speaker 7: body on the line. We'll see what happens. Hey, she

932
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Speaker 7: dous Sanders. I'm not so sure, man, I got a

933
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Speaker 7: way to see about all of this, because hey, there's

934
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Speaker 7: a whole lot of hype out there in this world. Man.

935
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Speaker 7: But hey, they rubber mister Rhodes when they play the

936
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Speaker 7: Excavation season and it starts to be live Dan. So

937
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 7: we'll find out. We'll find out. What was that on

938
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Speaker 7: the topic you were talking.

939
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Speaker 2: About, Well, Paul Feinbaum lost his mind. He said college

940
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: football is over as we know it.

941
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Speaker 7: Oh you drunk. I can't wait to see Texas in Ohio. Skick,

942
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 7: what's he talking about?

943
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 5: Man?

944
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 7: Texans in the house and Jerry's well, oh, hey, can

945
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 7: we get the heisman yet? Hey in the Ohio state? Lord?

946
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 7: Never can? I can't wait. Stop drinking, Paul leave to

947
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Speaker 7: whot you on?

948
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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Jerome, tell you the callers are great.

949
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Speaker 2: I hate that that we can only do one at

950
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: a time like this and it's burning everybody. But I

951
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: appreciate what we're doing. All right, great job, Let's go

952
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: to Jack, Texas. Jack is his name from Oklahoma. Welcome

953
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 2: in Jack.

954
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Speaker 10: How you doing, Bernie?

955
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: Do well? Thank you? You know the three topics in

956
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: all right.

957
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 10: As far as the college football goes, if they play,

958
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 10: everyone will watch and he needs to shut up.

959
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 6: And just watch football.

960
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: And I'm a total gaming on that. Yeah.

961
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Speaker 4: As far as the.

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Speaker 10: W NBA playing high school, listen, they're professionals. I think

963
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 10: they would win, honestly because I watched March Madness and

964
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 10: until you get to the elite eight, they miss a

965
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 10: lot of shots. They're not very fundamentally sound in college basketball.

966
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 10: So you extrapolate that down to high school. And it

967
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 10: depends on the state champion. You pick what state you pick.

968
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 5: It, Bron.

969
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: What if I since your well, your Texas Jack. What

970
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: if I told you the US women's national team back

971
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Speaker 2: when they were loaded with you know, Alex Morgan and

972
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 2: everybody eight years ago played the U fifteen Dallas Boys

973
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 2: travel team, and the Dallas fifteen year old boys beat

974
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 2: him five to two. I mean, anyway, I appreciate your opinion.

975
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: And we're three and oh, I mean everybody else thinks

976
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 2: they went okay? Anything on you already talked about if

977
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: she George Sanders, anything on George Anders?

978
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Speaker 10: Jack, No, they just need to quit hopping it. It's

979
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 10: kinda won't come out in the wash. I mean, shorten

980
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 10: them and a helmet. You can't tell anything from that.

981
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: That's what I see. I don't know if you heard

982
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: my commentary about twenty minutes ago, you spot out my friend.

983
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 10: Hell, I'm pretty accurate with just a helmet on.

984
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: Show up in Cleveland. I need a quarterback. Hey, thanks

985
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: a lot, Jack, don't be a stranger, buddy. And and

986
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 2: by the way, and keep keep the calls coming inbody's

987
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: doing great. I appreciate everybody the way they're handling this.

988
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

989
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: By the way, Paul Feinbaum, he said something that I

990
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: think Alan and built your own maybe maybe have you

991
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 2: surped and that is he well, first of all, Paul

992
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: Finemum went on to say college athletics did to themselves.

993
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: They're not really suffering for it because it's a big

994
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: and dollar industry. But I think it's going to be

995
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: very uneven in the future. I think at some point

996
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: fans are going to start turning tuning out, what are

997
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: you talking about it? It's not in even now, it's

998
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: not even now the same I forgot which college said

999
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: it because we've had Alan Jerome and Texas Jack in

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00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: eight seven, seven ninety nine. O Fox, be patient with us.

1001
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: You know, we're we're not we don't have we're not

1002
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: full capacity, and but we're going to, uh, you know,

1003
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: get through this. The longest short of it is we

1004
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: we we all know that when the when the games

1005
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: take place between the lines, it doesn't you know, you

1006
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: don't stop and analyze how college players are going to

1007
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: be paid. You know, college players have been paid under

1008
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: the table and around the corner for sixty seventy years,

1009
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: all right, I mean it's and now they're trying to

1010
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: get their their mind around it. And now all of

1011
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: a sudden starting in you know, this season, colleges will

1012
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: be able to you know, do revenue sharing, and so

1013
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 2: every school will have a salary cap as it were,

1014
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 2: of about twenty million dollars and that will you know,

1015
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 2: that represents about twenty two percent of the average athletic

1016
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: department revenue across power conferences and and so what's happening

1017
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 2: now is that the schools will pay the athletes directly.

1018
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 2: That's basically what's happening now. You know who's going to

1019
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: be eligible, Well, any NCAA schools that opted into the

1020
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 2: House settlement, they're going to be allowed to participate, regardless

1021
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: of what level of funding they have. You know, Sacramento State,

1022
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: which was an FCS school hoping to transition to the FBS, well,

1023
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: they intend to share revenue. So any school at any

1024
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 2: level of the NCAA can technically opt in. But Paul Finbaum,

1025
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: really we had some We've had some really good good callers.

1026
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean we've had some. This has really been good

1027
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: tonight because the truth of the matter is they're kind

1028
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: of you know, sorting the craft from the maneuver for

1029
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: for for lack of a better thing. So we're going

1030
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: to reset this Uh again, do you think that the

1031
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 2: w n b A champs would be a high school

1032
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: state champion teams? This is from the Klay Travis playbook

1033
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: a few years ago. Uh your thoughts on the house

1034
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 2: versus the NCAA and Shood or Sanders should or Sanders?

1035
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: Are you buying the hype? I'll get into that and

1036
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: more in just a minute. For the best pregame show weekend,

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Speaker 2: you in. Be patient. If you get too busy, please

1047
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Speaker 2: try back. We do want to hear from you. We're

1048
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: off to a hell of a start. Great callers so

1049
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 2: far in the midnight hour, and we got another good

1050
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: forty minutes to go, and I'll delve into more of

1051
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: the topics from my standpoint and what I think him.

1052
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: Bertie Friday will come to your line from the Las

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1055
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1059
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Speaker 2: All right, we are back and the Bernie Frattle Show.

1060
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: Appreciate everyone's efforts and as we limp along somewhat on

1061
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: our Saturday night version of the Midnight Hours, we have,

1062
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 2: I believe, just one full line open, but everybody's doing

1063
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Speaker 2: the best they can. I appreciate it. We're gonna get

1064
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Speaker 2: you through the best we can. Hugh on the five

1065
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Speaker 2: is next, Hey Hugh, how are you man?

1066
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Speaker 4: I'm all right. I was.

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Speaker 11: I was like getting off work, turn on the radio

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Speaker 11: and out here in La so they had like the

1069
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 11: postgame Dodgers talk show or whatever, and then all of

1070
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 11: a sudden you came on late because they went overtime,

1071
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 11: and I was like snapped out of my vortex that's

1072
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 11: kind of missed. I haven't.

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Speaker 4: I haven't. I don't think I've.

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00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 11: Caught the last two weeks or something like that, just

1075
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 11: doing my own thing.

1076
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 2: Good, were you able to catch your three topics I

1077
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 2: set up you?

1078
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard them.

1079
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 2: Okay, start like, all.

1080
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 11: Right, so it's high school boys versus the women pros.

1081
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, take like modern day. Say do you think modern

1082
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: day would beat a the.

1083
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 11: W NBA champions Well, okay, so first of all, we're

1084
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 11: talking about in high school, they probably if they're a

1085
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 11: great you know, if they're a championship tall over high

1086
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 11: school team, there's at least playing like at the rim,

1087
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 11: maybe a little above them.

1088
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 2: All high school teams play out are above the rim. Okay,

1089
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: even the ones that don't win championships.

1090
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 11: Women women don't play at the rim a lot or

1091
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 11: even they play like four feet below the rim. So

1092
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 11: athleticism alone would make a competitive regardless.

1093
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I'll be very honest.

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00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 11: You know, I played a lot of basketball, streetball and

1095
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 11: everything not lately. But I feel like, I mean a

1096
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 11: bunch of dudes can go and give it a competitive match.

1097
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: Well, let me stay on the line, you because we're

1098
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 2: gonna have some time here for a second. Look, I

1099
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: have historical perspective which I'm gonna share with the folks

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00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: later on. In April of twenty seven, the women's national

1101
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 2: team with you know, Carl Lloyd and that group Ray Megaapino,

1102
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 2: they lost to a U fifteen Dallas boys team five

1103
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: to two. They weren't mad, Carl let said, Hey, they

1104
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: were better, they were faster, they were bigger, stronger. They

1105
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: also lost to a fifteen year old boys Bayer Munich team.

1106
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 2: Didn't stop them from going on and winning multiple gold

1107
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: medals and World Cups. So you know the notion that

1108
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 2: I know the w NBA players are strong in are athletic. Dude,

1109
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: has anybody been to There are plenty of six foot

1110
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: ten high school kids in six eight power forwards and

1111
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: guards that would blow right by Kelsey Plumb. I love Jerome.

1112
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: I know I'm not an idiot. I know what I'm

1113
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: looking at. But there's a cultative difference. Okay, but I'm

1114
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: like it's three and zero that people just routinely think

1115
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: that you and the w NBA would would mop them up.

1116
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: You know what, play the damn game, then who's hurt

1117
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: by it? Continue on you?

1118
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 12: I don't take you yeah, well, I mean just just

1119
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 12: just to punctuate it as you know we're talking.

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Speaker 11: You know, men are different than women, you know, and

1121
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 11: we've just got you know, stronger, more athletic, jump higher,

1122
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 11: you know, are taller, and dunk all the time, you know,

1123
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 11: and there's so how many games do you watch in

1124
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 11: the day of the NBA that people are dunking?

1125
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1126
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 2: Exactly. All right, let's move off that. What do you

1127
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: got a house versus n c uh and Paul? Find

1128
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: Mom's comments and then wrap it up with your door.

1129
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 11: Fine made a living out of being a clown, you know,

1130
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 11: so hey, you got to give him credit for being

1131
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 11: a clown.

1132
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 6: And if you're not in the FBC, you're probably.

1133
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 4: Like, what, what's who is his geek?

1134
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 11: And I don't even know who whoo who enjoys listening

1135
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 11: to him?

1136
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 4: Other than.

1137
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: In fairness, he has Bill quite a brand for himself.

1138
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to argue with you, but I'm

1139
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: just trying to maintain some objectivity.

1140
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 4: No, you know, I agree.

1141
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 6: You know you got to give them credit for that

1142
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 6: you manage to do it.

1143
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 7: So here's what I see.

1144
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 11: Here's a little nuance about the nil stuff, which I

1145
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 11: think is what he's saying is just going to change everything,

1146
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 11: and you know, the money and all that.

1147
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 6: So it's okay.

1148
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 11: I think it applies more to the basketball where it's

1149
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 11: more like one and one and done.

1150
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 10: That getting paid.

1151
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 11: At the college level actually incentivizes the player to stay

1152
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 11: in school a little longer than just jump to the

1153
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 11: pros and you know, get better at their games before

1154
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 11: they jump to the pros. And so that's the one

1155
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 11: thing that I think is a positive in all this.

1156
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 4: Now, of course, we're going to watch. I mean, everybody's

1157
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 4: gonna watch.

1158
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 11: I mean, if you're in college football, he's going to

1159
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 11: keep watching it.

1160
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 7: You know.

1161
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 11: I mean I've I've loved college football more than pros

1162
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 11: my entire life. And you know, I'm so maybe now watching.

1163
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 4: A little bit more with like one eye clothes.

1164
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 11: Because the one thing I don't like is the thing

1165
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 11: that's worse than the NIL, I think is the transfer portal.

1166
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Speaker 4: Where he is coach.

1167
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: Yes, where you want, that's been the real Beef Fans

1168
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 2: are okay with players being paid, but they're not real

1169
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 2: happy with guys changing musical chairs every single year and that, Yeah, you.

1170
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 11: Can't get behind a team and get them, you know,

1171
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 11: get an emotional connection with the team, you know, with

1172
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Speaker 11: guys that have been in for four years and all

1173
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 11: that stuff, and so yeah, that's what really sucks right now.

1174
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Speaker 2: I believe finally, are you buying the shootdoor? Sanders Hight

1175
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: that I will reiterate my ten years are covering the

1176
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: lines part of the pre and post from ninety eight

1177
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: to eight and covering the NFL ever since. I will reiterate,

1178
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Speaker 2: what can you really judge and evaluate in Georgia Dunbalds.

1179
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 11: If you've got last word, you can evaluate as much

1180
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 11: as you can with the guys standing at the podium

1181
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 11: answering questions after practice. I mean that's you can you

1182
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 11: can extrapolate the same like oh, good character, oh you know, yeah,

1183
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 11: good throws. But you're right, it's you know.

1184
01:00:58,200 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 4: Get them on the field.

1185
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 11: So look, get him on the field, and let's see

1186
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 11: what interesting is. There's three other dudes that are you know,

1187
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 11: buying for the position. But you know, there was one

1188
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 11: topic of a month or two ago that you had

1189
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 11: about you know, his popularity and creating a culture, and man,

1190
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 11: he's built one for himself. And the other thing too,

1191
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 11: is that boy you don't hear about daddy anymore. You know,

1192
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 11: like he's growing up and he's being a man right

1193
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 11: in front of everybody's eyes, and he's leaving dad in

1194
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 11: the in the rear view mirror.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's cool.

1196
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Speaker 11: I think I think he's I think he's built for success.

1197
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 11: It's because of his attitude, you know, and anything can happen.

1198
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 11: You know, maybe if he does start well, he can

1199
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Speaker 11: bull out in knee or somebody can you know, blindside

1200
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 11: or whatever, and its it's done. You don't know if

1201
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 11: he's going to go on some career real, real.

1202
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 2: Quickly, Hugh. And I think you make some good observations.

1203
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: I when I see your door now, he looks like

1204
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 2: a really happy, go lucky kid, super happy to be

1205
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 2: in an NFL camp working hard. All that's true, I believe.

1206
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. You what if for

1207
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: the next two years, uh Shodor won seven and five

1208
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,959
Speaker 2: and won a playoff game? You think that'd be pretty good.

1209
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 4: In what context? Good for him?

1210
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 2: You can take it anywhere you want. You think that'd

1211
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 2: be a good achievement this first year and the first

1212
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: two years, first two anytime or the combined cumulative over

1213
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 2: the next two years, seven and five as a starter

1214
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: and won a playoff game.

1215
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Speaker 11: That would be equivalent sort of to what he accomplished

1216
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 11: in college, which is he looks good and all.

1217
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: That thirteen and twelve in college and really didn't win

1218
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: any be all right, I'll just spilled the beans. Listen,

1219
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: I love your calls. I gotta let you run. I

1220
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: want to get other people in. That's what Tim Tebow did.

1221
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: He was seven and five as a starter and he

1222
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: won a playoff game. If Shudor did that, he'd be

1223
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. Tebow that could went to

1224
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 2: throw him a trash heap. Relax, people don't drive off

1225
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: the road. I'm not comparing Tebow to Shootdor, although you

1226
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: think I just did. Look, he brought up a good point.

1227
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 2: He's competing against three other guys ones won a Super Bowl.

1228
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: Pick it, love Moore hate him. Has at twenty five

1229
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: starts in the NFL, and he's fifteen and ten. Okay,

1230
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: facts not feelings. Chudor started twenty five games in college.

1231
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: He's thirteen and twl Dylan Gabriel winning to Michigan picked

1232
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: him apart. He's had over sixty starts. All right, Andrew

1233
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 2: and Bakersfield joined just thanks to your patients and putting

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01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: up with all this tonight, Andrew, what's up?

1235
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Speaker 6: Man?

1236
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 7: Hey?

1237
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 13: Okay, so I'm not trying to sound like an idiot. Okay,

1238
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 13: So the first topic about college sports, can you explain

1239
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 13: to me why, Okay, if you go four years to

1240
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 13: a good college it costs a lot of money. And

1241
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 13: if someone gets a full ride and they get meals

1242
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 13: and they get housing for four years and all that,

1243
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 13: why is that so poo pooed like it's nothing you understand?

1244
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: Of course I do. I mean what I want to

1245
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: try to look you, you always have thoughtful I just

1246
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 2: kind of want to stay on topic tonight, man, you know.

1247
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: I mean, look, let's deal with the here and now

1248
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 2: versus versus theoretical discussions, which I don't mind, but I

1249
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: just Paul fonbamb when he makes a statement like com

1250
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 2: football is over look, it's changed, never to return, but

1251
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: it's not over go ahead.

1252
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 13: Well, it makes the transfer from being a student athlete

1253
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 13: to being a professional, and it makes it younger. And

1254
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 13: so then the question becomes, well, how young is too

1255
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 13: young to make that transfer?

1256
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 9: Do you understand?

1257
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so what are you saying there? You agree with

1258
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: Paul finbaum Or disagreeing, I lean.

1259
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 13: Towards his side. I think we need to be wary

1260
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:48,439
Speaker 13: about it because it's a societal issue. It will become

1261
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 13: a societal issue, all right.

1262
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: Well, you know, in time it might. And as long

1263
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: as it remains a billion dollar industry and people keep watching,

1264
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 2: I think it's far from over. Any thoughts on shud

1265
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: Or saying, are the the a w NBA team beat

1266
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: a high school state you know, be seen as you know,

1267
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: be a high school state campteam?

1268
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1269
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 13: I like Schudor, but as far as the other topic,

1270
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 13: it's interesting. I also played soccer and I think I

1271
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 13: was maybe under fifteen with a club team, and we

1272
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 13: played the team that had Julie Faudi and I don't.

1273
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 4: Remember who else.

1274
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 13: But you know, it's just a scrimmage. I think we

1275
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 13: might have tied him zero zero or two two, But

1276
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 13: they were good though.

1277
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: You know that no one's denying. You know, they're on

1278
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: terrific players. It's just a sports you know. So anyway,

1279
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 2: all right, finally Shudor got Yeah.

1280
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 13: All I have is I like him and I think

1281
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 13: he's good, So we'll see.

1282
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 4: What happens, all right.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair let's see what happens and we'll

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Speaker 2: go from there. Thank you. Andrew Rick in Louisiana joins

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Speaker 2: us next. Hi, Rick, thanks for hanging on, budd.

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Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing. Thanks for taking the call. As

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Speaker 4: far as the three subjects, the first one college football over, No,

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Speaker 4: I don't think anything's happened to Georgia or Alabama. I mean,

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Speaker 4: c the SDC and you know that's still gonna pick up,

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Speaker 4: you know, a lot of attention. But the thing about

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Speaker 4: the money, and I think it's a good thing because

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Speaker 4: there's probably players that are an interesting part of the

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01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 4: team that probably is not getting the big money. So

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Speaker 4: this gives them an opportunity to maybe pay some of

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01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 4: the offensive linemen, you know, some of the ones on

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Speaker 4: the practice team, you know. I just I mean, if

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Speaker 4: the school can do that, I think that's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: As far as uh.

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Speaker 2: The players at Rick, I mean, and we're all watching,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna stop watching exactly exactly.

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01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 4: So the next one. As far as the w n

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01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 4: b A playing, uh, I could be honest, just care less.

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01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 4: But if you want to do something, hey, go ahead

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01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 4: and put it on the If you're trying to do

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01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 4: something for the NBA All Star weekend. Hey put something

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01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 4: together and let it go there if you want to

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01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 4: try that, but at any rate, I would just The

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01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 4: question is what they beat him? I think that I

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01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 4: don't know. I think that the women would probably beat them,

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01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 4: but you know, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sanders is in shorts and helmets, and a few

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01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: prominent people are are making him out like he's the

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Speaker 2: next coming. Okay, I'm not saying he's not. What I

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01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: am saying is there's no way you can evaluate anybody

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01:07:54,600 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 2: in a legitimate fashion in shorts and helps a lot.

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Speaker 4: I took that as an update, an update as to

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01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 4: what's going on, not that you just taking it and

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01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 4: run with it. Because I'm waiting for pre season, when

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01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 4: he gets in the helmet and playing other teams. I

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01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 4: think that will say something. It really isn't going to

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01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 4: see everything, but at least we'll get to see him

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01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 4: in an actual game in pre season. And you know,

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 4: another thing I'm hearing too is that you know, with

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01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 4: you know NFL, you still got to make the team,

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Speaker 4: which I think he'll make the team.

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Speaker 2: Make it well. I think Jimmy HASLM wants him to

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01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 2: make the team. He's going to make the even if

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01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 2: he's on the practice squad half the year, he's in

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01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: an NFL. He's drawing an NFL paycheck. Okay, so that's

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Speaker 2: a that's a foregone conclusion. Rick appreciates you as always, man,

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01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, measured measured comments, Bill Kittle. I

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01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: love that you're engaged.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: This is a new listener to the show. Apparently. Uh so,

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01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 2: he's sent me about one hundred tweets. He feels very

1336
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: strongly that the WNBA would kick their butt. You may

1337
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 2: be right, but we have historical perspective to suggest otherwise.

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01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter. It's see the beauty of it

1339
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 2: is what I've always tried to say in the Men

1340
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: that Hour, and you call in so we can talk, Okay,

1341
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: What I've always tried to say is that the worst

1342
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 2: conversations are when everybody agrees, and not everybody agrees on this,

1343
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 2: and I think that's healthy. And I think people have

1344
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 2: been pretty honest and objective about your door. And I'm

1345
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: going to reiterate that in a minute. What can you

1346
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 2: really evaluate in shorts and helmets? And then as far

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: as house for us, the NCAA look college football has

1348
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 2: been evolved since, say allowed to forward past eighty years ago,

1349
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 2: and so many things have changed, the formation of conferences,

1350
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 2: bowl games, rules, you name it. Now we've got this

1351
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: situation and I'm not sure if Paul's into hyperbole or what.

1352
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: You know, it's just not his comments are landing well.

1353
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: With all due respect, and I'd love to debate him

1354
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 2: on national radio. I would do it. Not a contentious debate,

1355
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 2: but what are really the factors you considered in determining

1356
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: college football is over? When your basic premise is it's

1357
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: going to become very uneven, it's already uneven. It's already uneven.

1358
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,879
Speaker 2: We talked about this three years ago when Cincinnati went undefeated.

1359
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: They're going to chance to win a national championship, and

1360
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 2: they earned the right to be in the playoffs and

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01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 2: got snuffed. Christopher, North Carolina joined this. Christopher. Welcome into

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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show.

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Speaker 9: Bernie, thanks for taking my call again, sir. It's been

1364
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 9: a long time, and I want to just speak only

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01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 9: on college football because that's the topic at hand, and

1366
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 9: it's really rowling you up. The issue is this, we're

1367
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 9: in the middle of dead zone. Nobody cares about the NBA,

1368
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 9: Nobody cares about what's going on in the NHL accept

1369
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 9: certain people, So what does Paul do. He wants to

1370
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 9: stir this up. He wants to get people to pay attention.

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Speaker 9: Why is college football is so popular, It's a multi.

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Speaker 4: Billion dollar industry.

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01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 9: He just wants to get attention.

1374
01:10:59,120 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 4: Again.

1375
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 9: The bottom line, he's trying to get people to pay

1376
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 9: attention to him so they realize that there's something that's

1377
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 9: big that's going on. And it's just a way of

1378
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 9: like having a media click just say you're right.

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01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: And you know what's interesting is he's so sanctimonious though

1380
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: when he makes these comments, and therein lies the rub

1381
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 2: because that's what gets attention, not that his tone of voice.

1382
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 2: And I'm kind of worried this may not be good. No,

1383
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: it's very sanctimonious. It's over and here is why. And

1384
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 2: I got the last word. Okay, go ahead, Christopher, No, No, I.

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01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 7: Agree with you.

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01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 9: But I think the biggest thing Ernie is that he

1387
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 9: just wants to hear himself talk. The four letter network

1388
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 9: is so keen. I'm making sure I'm talking.

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01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 4: I'm talking.

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01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 9: Hello, I'm here.

1391
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 4: Why.

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Speaker 9: I lived in Connecticut for seventeen years and I watched

1393
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 9: that network say we are so important. We are the

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01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 9: god of sports, radio, sports, television, sports everything. But where

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01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 9: are you today? You're not are Why are you paying

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01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 9: for such massive on something that people don't care about

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01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 9: except certain people. I love hockey, But who's covering the

1398
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 9: NHL finals? Let's see TNT. You know who's covering the

1399
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 9: major football networks that are being considered top lively talent.

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01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 7: It's not ESPN is so you know.

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01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 9: I bottom line about Paul that drives me nuts. He's

1402
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 9: a big mouth, just like other people that cover like oh,

1403
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 9: I'm sorry the NBA or we talked about that earlier.

1404
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 9: He is a media hound.

1405
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 4: He drives me nuts, just like mister Rogers.

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01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 9: He drives me nuts. You can always continue to say

1407
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,799
Speaker 9: something to get enough attention if there was no interest,

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01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 9: why do we still talk about what goes on in

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01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 9: my state with our new football coach at UNC? I mean,

1410
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 9: come on, folks, this game is never going to go away.

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01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 4: It's too popular.

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01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 9: Let me get off the line so you can get

1413
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 9: other people. Thank you for taking my calls from.

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01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks Chris. I think you underscored a basic

1415
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: premise of the Bernie Frattle Brandon that is, we don't

1416
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: have royalty in this country. Our athletes and our entertainers

1417
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: are in fact royalty, and our athletes are entertainers. And

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01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: I think to that end, college football fills that bold.

1419
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: I'll give a quote that Paul Feinbaum had coming up

1420
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: eight seven seven nine nine six six three sixty nine.

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01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: The Midnight Hour continues. I'm Bernie Fraddle. War comes to

1422
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 2: you live to the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1423
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show

1424
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back at the Bernie

1425
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 2: Fraddle Show. We continue on with the Midnight Hour. Steve

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01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 2: in Kansas City, juntes, Steve, thanks for hanging on. What

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 2: do you got for us? Hello Steve, Kansas City. You're up, buddy, Hello,

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01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: You're up. You're up? Uh?

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Speaker 14: You know, I never talking about this Shader Sanders. I

1430
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 14: don't understand why, you know, why people are making such

1431
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 14: a big deal about him. You know, there are plenty

1432
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 14: of average quarterbacks everywhere. I mean, this guy is the

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01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 14: next Bronnie James as far as I'm concerned, Why why

1434
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 14: are they making a big deal?

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01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I know the answer to that, Steve. It's

1436
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: because his father what's his father's name again, I forget.

1437
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: He's pretty good football player, pretty good baseball player, turned

1438
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 2: the Colorado program around. He's very flamboyant, very popular, also

1439
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: very polarizing. That's why his name if his name, if

1440
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 2: his name was shudor Slobotnik, I doubt we're talking about it.

1441
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 14: Seems like a huge marketing, a huge marketing trick to

1442
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 14: me and he and he failed, and so if he

1443
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 14: comes back, if he does well, you know, more power,

1444
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 14: more power to him.

1445
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 6: But I'm not gonna make You're not buying the hype.

1446
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: That's the bottom line. You're not buying the hype.

1447
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 14: Yeah, he's just an average guy. If he can produce

1448
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 14: on the field, great, more more power to him. I

1449
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 14: don't think he's going to be able to do it.

1450
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 4: But what what was the other what?

1451
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 13: What?

1452
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 7: What was the other topics?

1453
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 2: On the table house versus NCAA. You got Paul Feinbaum

1454
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 2: saying college football is over as we know it. I

1455
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 2: don't agree your thoughts.

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01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 14: Oh, oh okay, well you know it's I think the

1457
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 14: the whole thing is going to be like baseball. I

1458
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 14: think it's a they can't control it. It's a soft,

1459
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 14: soft cap I think college sports may be over as

1460
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 14: as we know it. It's just call it. Pine Baum

1461
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 14: is speaking for the sec you know. He he likes

1462
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 14: the thing a certain way where Auburn in Alabama could

1463
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 14: pay to pay guys like Cam Newton all they wanted to.

1464
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 14: You know, I think that may be a good thing.

1465
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 14: That that it's over that that if he if he

1466
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 14: doesn't like it, then I'm normally for it.

1467
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 7: Let's put it.

1468
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 14: Let's put it that way. That may be good if

1469
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 14: if he's one of the most powerful, powerful people of

1470
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 14: the sport. So so I'll give this system a little

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01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 14: bit of a little bit of a right real.

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01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 2: Quickly, because I got to get one more caller. Who

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01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 2: would win a w n B A championship team versus

1474
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 2: a high school state championship team?

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01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 14: Boys, Oh okay, wow, now now now that's that's.

1476
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 4: A good one.

1477
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 14: I would definitely, I think it would be very close.

1478
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,440
Speaker 14: I think it depends who who is on your average

1479
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 14: w NBA championship team would probably get beat by an

1480
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 14: elite I MG academy. But if you had the all

1481
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 14: stars of the w NBA, like an Olympic team like

1482
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 14: Taylor Park, and.

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01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 2: They would win, all right, thanks. I appreciated test, Steve

1484
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 2: Christ and Louisiana. Good evening. You've got the last word

1485
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 2: on the hour tonight.

1486
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 6: Oh thanks for taking the call, you, sir.

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01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 12: I was calling about the Paul Teime mom. I don't

1488
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,560
Speaker 12: think necessarily couchwals.

1489
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 8: Then I think it's lost alive it.

1490
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 12: Let's say it's mysticism.

1491
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 2: Fair, it's lost. It's lost its romanticism because it's a tradition.

1492
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 2: I mean, they're talking about USC Notre Dame, not play anymore.

1493
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 2: That's heresy. But I think I think we're starting.

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01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 12: To all watch I'm calling, doesn't know what you saying.

1495
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 12: So I mean I used to love college football because

1496
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 12: I love getting involved in the recruits, getting involved in

1497
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 12: who's gonna be a taker school for the next four years.

1498
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's move. I just got about a minute there,

1499
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: a big fella, What have you got? Do you think

1500
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: the WNB would be the high school state team in

1501
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 2: what shador? Are you buying the hype?

1502
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 12: Uh No, I don't mind the hype, and I appreciate

1503
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 12: taking the call.

1504
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thanks Chris, you got anything else? You

1505
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 2: got this a little bit of time? Okay, fair enough, Okay,

1506
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: thank you all. Good, great job. Look, the truth of

1507
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 2: the matter is this is fun. These are fun topics. Uh,

1508
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 2: they're his historical perspective. I told you about the soccer game,

1509
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: and the US women's team is real good about it.

1510
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm having a listen. I'm not gonna make a prediction.

1511
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: I know who I bet on. But look, I I've

1512
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 2: seen the w NBA. I've seen a lot of high

1513
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 2: school basketball. Those dudes in high school could play. Okay,

1514
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 2: just take the team Brownie was on at the academy. Yeah,

1515
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 2: this guy's can ball. And a lot of them going

1516
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 2: to the future in college in the NBA. So it's

1517
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 2: not that they're playing against I'm not saying they're playing

1518
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 2: against you know, our sisters, you know, a controllable, flatterlet's

1519
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 2: eighth grade team. I'm talking about you know, accomplished kids.

1520
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 2: So we've got a lot to unpack in the in

1521
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 2: the one am hour, because I want to get into that.

1522
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 2: I want to reiterate quickly the reason I'm trying to

1523
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 2: be objective about Shoodoor Sanders and what the hell can

1524
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 2: you really evaluate in shorts and you know, basically in

1525
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 2: shorts in helmets. Okay, then I want to drill down

1526
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: so people understand exactly what's going on with House versus

1527
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: the NCAA, the revenue sharing limits, the enforcement mechanisms. I

1528
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 2: want to lay it out for you. And finally we

1529
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 2: got to get into Aaron Rodgers. He was in Mini caamp.

1530
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 2: What should Pittsburgh legitimately expect this year? I'll break it

1531
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,560
Speaker 2: down for you. Keep it locked. You're listening to the

1532
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1533
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,599
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1534
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,040
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1535
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1536
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas. Take up to

1537
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 2: three am Pacific, six am Eastern, and I want to

1538
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 2: thanks again to all the terrific midnight hour callers. And

1539
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: we'll do this again next week. By the way, shortly

1540
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,720
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1541
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1543
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1545
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,600
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1546
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 2: read that. You can rate it five stars if you

1547
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: want again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

1548
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 2: your podcast. Eat to night show posted right after we

1549
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: get off the air. All right, it's a little bit

1550
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: of a bummer. We had the phone mishap, but things happened,

1551
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 2: we got through it. I'm sure we would have heard

1552
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: from a lot more people. Maybe something we'll revisit later.

1553
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 2: I want to take time to unpack all three subjects

1554
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 2: before I get to Aaron Rodgers and shoey Otani and

1555
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 2: some of the lot of the other stuff we got

1556
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: for you tonight. The consensus among sports commentators, basketball scouts,

1557
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 2: coaches is that high school boys teams, even though it's

1558
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 2: not at the very top level, would be a WNBA team.

1559
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: That's a consensus. Why they've observed scrimmages between WNBA teams

1560
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,959
Speaker 2: and top level high school teams, not even state champions,

1561
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,919
Speaker 2: and those high school boys have demonstrated a clear advantage.

1562
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: There's simply just a physical advantage size, strength, speed, that's

1563
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: the most significant factor. And they're damn good players, and

1564
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 2: it's a faster pace of play. They can dunk, they

1565
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 2: most of them play above the rim. Now that's a

1566
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 2: skill that that right there as a metaphor that showcases

1567
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 2: the athleticism that WNBA players generally don't don't have. All Right,

1568
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 2: this is not a knock against the WNBA, just a

1569
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 2: fact I believe now. Klay Travis in October twenty twenty

1570
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 2: three offered to put up I believe, a million dollars

1571
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 2: of his own money to make these make this game happen.

1572
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: He wanted the Las Vegas ass who'd won the championship

1573
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:28,759
Speaker 2: to play a high school state champion team. Clay Travis's

1574
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: prediction that the high school boys win by thirty. The

1575
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 2: game has never played, never will be played. Maybe the

1576
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: question I should have asked was would you like to

1577
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: see that played? Ain't gonna happen because if the WNBA one,

1578
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 2: what will people say? Well, big deal, they beat high

1579
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 2: school players and if they lose, yeah, they ain't gonna

1580
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 2: be good. Their ratings aren't are already aren't very good.

1581
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 2: And the vast majority of people don't take the league series.

1582
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: It's a real league. These are good players. They're good players,

1583
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 2: but either suffering from what I call the comittition in

1584
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: football league syndrome. Watch the Canadian Football League. They're damn

1585
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 2: good players. You can't tell them who's playing who's playing

1586
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 2: the Night the rough Riders versus the Rough Riders again,

1587
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 2: or maybe they're playing the rough Riders. You can't name

1588
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: the players, you don't know the rules, You don't want

1589
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 2: the end zones longer, the fields wider. What the hell's

1590
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 2: a ace? Why do they do three? You don't know

1591
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: any of it. But moreover, you don't know the rivalries.

1592
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 2: You don't have Bears, Vikings, you don't have Chiefs Bills.

1593
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: You know, you don't have Raven Steelers. There's just no perspective.

1594
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 2: You don't know. That's what I believe the WNBA has.

1595
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 2: But look there, they're doing their best. We'll see, we'll

1596
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 2: see what happens. So that's that was one of the

1597
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 2: top topics tonight. Now I want to get into the

1598
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 2: Shoodoor Sanders thing our root. I don't have a favorite

1599
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 2: team anymore. I just don't. I've been accused of being

1600
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,759
Speaker 2: a Lion's walk. Maybe I am. I have an affinity

1601
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: for the Lions. I cover the team for twelve years.

1602
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: It's been seventeen years in Detroit. Who I covered the

1603
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 2: team for long and that as part of the pre

1604
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: and posed for twelve years. It'd be just a great

1605
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: story if they want it all be a great sturf.

1606
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 2: The Cleveton Browns won it all, be a great stuff.

1607
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:05,879
Speaker 2: The Minnesota Vikings won it all? How about the Buffalo

1608
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: Bills to this day of my favorite thirty for thirty

1609
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 2: is the Four Falls of Buffalo. Just love that. Watch

1610
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 2: it once twice a year for posterity. So where am

1611
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 2: I going with this? I wrote for the story It

1612
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 2: would in fact be a great story if somehow Shudor

1613
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 2: Sanders started led the Browns to victories, maybe even a playoffs,

1614
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 2: that would be the story. If he fails or failure

1615
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 2: is relative, if he never really announts to anything, fine,

1616
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 2: he joins the thousands of other quarterbacks, so the odds

1617
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 2: are against you. But the real story would be But

1618
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 2: when you've got a guy who does fifteen hours a

1619
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 2: week on this network trying to force feed me that

1620
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 2: he should start based on shorts and helmets drills, Come on, man,

1621
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 2: are you goofing on us? Are you just goofing on us?

1622
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: Is it April fools? Or do you really mean this?

1623
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: And here is why. Okay, you can have an opinion,

1624
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 2: but try to have an opinion with information. If you man,

1625
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: this is a really good pizza. That's an opinion. Maybe

1626
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 2: you've had information because you ate the pizza. How remember

1627
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 2: years ago some blowharder was saying Calvin Johnson quit in

1628
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 2: the NFL because he was tired of losing. No, his

1629
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 2: mom was a doctor, never wanted him to play. He

1630
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 2: was you know, they had to prop them up in

1631
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 2: practice the last three years. He loved the lines, wanted

1632
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: to be there. He couldn't physically do it anymore. But

1633
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 2: I hear's the guy in the air saying, you know,

1634
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: somebody defended Himself's an opinion. No, it's an opinion with information.

1635
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: It's blowhard. This is I'm gonna give you my what

1636
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: I believe is as an insightful NFL perspective on you door,

1637
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 2: What can you really learn in shorts and helmets? A

1638
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 2: little bit. You can observe their throwing motion, you can

1639
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 2: observe their mechanics. You can observe the release point and footwork. Okay,

1640
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 2: arm strength. The drills can showcase quarterbacks ability to be

1641
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: accurate and with velocity. But if you're looking at those,

1642
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 2: you know, six on six, five on five, seven on

1643
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 2: seven drills and shorts and helmets, he was making throws

1644
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 2: that were good and the same kind of throws of

1645
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: three or five star hig school quarterback would make because

1646
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 2: you don't have to do any mental processing. You don't

1647
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:25,759
Speaker 2: have to scan the field and make a quick decision.

1648
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: This is not a scenario that's simulating anything that is

1649
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 2: resembling of a game. Now here's what you cannot tell

1650
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 2: in a shorts and helmets evaluation game simulation. This is

1651
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: a completely controlled environment. It's a drill. There is no

1652
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: way in shorts and helmets you can you can even

1653
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 2: come close to replicating the kind of speed and anger

1654
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: and chaos and pressure of a real NFL game where

1655
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 2: a quarterback plays a position with his eyes drops back,

1656
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 2: makes metal snapshots that it has to make decisions and

1657
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 2: execute under duress against a live defense, with real bullets flying,

1658
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: against world class athletes coming at you with bad intentions.

1659
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 2: You're not gonna find that out in shorts and helmets.

1660
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 2: Doesn't a confer pocket presence. You're standing back there all

1661
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 2: day long. Do whatever you want, smoke a cigarette, have

1662
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,719
Speaker 2: a cup of coffee. You don't have to navigate the pocket.

1663
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 2: You don't have to sense any pressure because there isn't

1664
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 2: any You don't have to extend to play because that's

1665
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: not what they do in drills. These are controlled environments. Also,

1666
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: there is nothing in a shorts and helmets drill that

1667
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 2: can even remotely give you a clue of a quarterback

1668
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: and their football IQ. Okay, reading a defense in the

1669
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:53,759
Speaker 2: NFL is very complex, making pre snap judgments very difficult.

1670
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:58,799
Speaker 2: Calling audibles. You're not gonna do that in a shorts

1671
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 2: and helmets but you're gonna do that in a real game.

1672
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 2: And the other thing is it doesn't really showcase the

1673
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 2: mental toughness or physical toughness re card to play the

1674
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 2: position bouncing back from adversity. Now, I do think that

1675
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:15,440
Speaker 2: Shudor Sanders showed toughness in college and resiliency and competitiveness,

1676
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 2: no question, But he also holds the ball too long.

1677
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 2: So what we're really talking about here is not whether

1678
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 2: or not Shudoor Sanders is a good quarterback, but does

1679
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:29,440
Speaker 2: his arm, does his athleticism, does his pocket presence translate

1680
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 2: to NFL caliber? And that's why he dropped in the

1681
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: draft because a lot of people who get paid a

1682
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: lot of money and they're still wrong a lot they

1683
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 2: know what the hell they're doing. You have to win

1684
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: games in the NFL you don't keep your job. No way.

1685
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 2: They're passing up on this guy if he can get

1686
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: on the field and help win games. So there's one

1687
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty quarterbacks in mini camp this week, we

1688
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 2: keep talking about the same one. I know why Steven

1689
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 2: Kansas City, the caller, why we're talking because his last

1690
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 2: name is not Slovotnic, it's not Shador Gazinski, it's Shadoor Sanders.

1691
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: The dude drives the rules. Rice. Where's Rolex? His talks

1692
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 2: a lot, I mean decided he don't I don't need

1693
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 2: to go to NFL pre we we know where we going.

1694
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 2: He's been humbled, but you know what, he's handled really well.

1695
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 2: He's in there working hard. I know I talked to you.

1696
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 2: He has also got great attitude and he's enthusiastic. He

1697
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 2: likes being in the NFL. He's gonna get his chance.

1698
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 2: He's gonna get his chance. But he's competing against other guys.

1699
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 2: I don't know why people bashed Dylan Gabriels too small,

1700
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: shut up, too.

1701
01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 10: Small for what.

1702
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 2: He started sixty games in college football with two stok

1703
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 2: You know he started at Oregon, he went into Michigan

1704
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 2: picked him apart. I don't know if she do would

1705
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: have done that. He was outstanding at Oklahoma, outstanding, started

1706
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 2: sixty games, one almost one, like eighty percent of them.

1707
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 2: Shador did a good job at Colorado too, but he

1708
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: was thirteen and twelve. Canny Pickett, I don't care whether

1709
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 2: you like him or hate him, or you couldn't pick

1710
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 2: him out of a police lineup. He's fifteen and ten

1711
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 2: as an NFL starter, He's at twenty five starts, he said,

1712
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: many starts as Shador Sanders. Who you gonna hit your

1713
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 2: wagon to if you've got to win an NFL game?

1714
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 2: You know, I hear the sound, But about it.

1715
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 5: This guy.

1716
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 2: They're raving about a guy who's never played one snop

1717
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Well, you're you're raving about a guy

1718
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 2: who's never play one snap of the NFL. Is if

1719
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 2: he's you know, in the shorts and helmets Hall of Fame.

1720
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 2: And then you got Joe Flacco, he's won a Super Bowl.

1721
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: Make fun of them all you want. The dude knows

1722
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: what they all he's doing. So the long and the

1723
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:34,759
Speaker 2: short of it is, I think the you know, Shudor

1724
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 2: Sanders deserves his chance, and that'll be up to Kevin Stefanski. Yeah,

1725
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 2: four quarterbacks in camp. But again in conclusion, if you're

1726
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,800
Speaker 2: in shorts and helmets, they provide some information for evaluating

1727
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 2: quarterback prospects. Okay, get you get a glimpse of their

1728
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 2: physical traits. You get to you know, get a glimpse

1729
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:58,560
Speaker 2: of their mechanics, their fundamental abilities. But it's complete conjecture

1730
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 2: to to assume that because you look so good with

1731
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,320
Speaker 2: you know, in shorts and helmets, you're going to step

1732
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 2: right in. You can come on. An evaluation of an

1733
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback is extremely comprehensive, and you know what, it

1734
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 2: relies on most game film against real players that are

1735
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 2: breathing down on you. That's how scouts can deserve a

1736
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 2: quarterback performs in actual game situations, under pressure, against live competition,

1737
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 2: when something is on the line. Simple as that. Coming up.

1738
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 2: I want to break down the house versus the NCAA lawsuit. Okay,

1739
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 2: this represents a fundamental shift in college sports. There are

1740
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 2: significant changes as to house student athletes are going to

1741
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 2: be compensated and how the NCAA operates. There are four

1742
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 2: categories that want to break down this is important. Hey,

1743
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 2: we're ten saturdays away from college Football ten Saturdays. By

1744
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 2: the way, did you know since twenty twenty one Courtesia

1745
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 2: Ralph there have been twenty one conference games. As the

1746
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 2: season opener, the Dogs are fourteen six and one seventy percent.

1747
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 2: I have to share that with my buddy Jason McIntyre.

1748
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 2: Dogs are five and a half plus five and a

1749
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 2: half were hiring twelve and two against his spread. That's

1750
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 2: eighty five percent. In other words, when two conference teams

1751
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 2: play Week one, lean to the dog coming up house

1752
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 2: versus NCAA. I'm gonna tell you what I don't think

1753
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 2: the media has done a great job of reporting in

1754
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 2: a granular fashion. We'll give it to you in bite

1755
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 2: sized pieces. By the way, for the best pregame show

1756
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,719
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1757
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1758
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1759
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:44,360
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1760
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1761
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1762
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,280
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1763
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1764
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1765
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1766
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1767
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1768
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1769
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,240
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1770
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 2: Come to your line from the Las Vegas studios, and

1771
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 2: I want to pick up where I left off. We're

1772
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 2: ten saturdays away from college football. According to Paul Feinbaum,

1773
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 2: it's he in the college football and he gave his

1774
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 2: reasons why, so what is he reacting to. He's reacting

1775
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,759
Speaker 2: to the House versus NCAA lawsuit that makes a tremendous

1776
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: fundamental shift and a lot of changes in the way

1777
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 2: student athletes are gonna be compensated. So we're gonna break

1778
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 2: it down right now from an academic perspective one, these

1779
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 2: are the key takeaways. You are now going to be

1780
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 2: compensating athletes directly, and there's gonna be revenue sharing. Okay,

1781
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 2: schools will now directly pay their athletes. There's gonna be

1782
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 2: a captive mount Per school that started as at twenty

1783
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: point five million this year, but it'll increase annually. Here's

1784
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 2: another outcome of the judgment. There's going to be back

1785
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 2: pay for previous athletes. Now, the NCAA and Power Conferences

1786
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 2: are going to end up paying out almost two point

1787
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:16,560
Speaker 2: eight billion with a b billion dollars in damages to

1788
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 2: current and many former Division one athletes for past restrictions

1789
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 2: on profiting from their name, image and likeness. And they

1790
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 2: will settle the prior anti trust claims. The NIL deals

1791
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 2: are going to continue. Now student athletes can still sign

1792
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 2: NIL deals with third parties, but now the settlement permits

1793
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 2: enforcement of these standards prevent deals that circumvent their revenues.

1794
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,679
Speaker 2: You're ain't cap and they're not based on valid business

1795
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 2: purpose and fair market venue, so they're going to have

1796
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 2: to be signed off by by an accounting firm. Yeah.

1797
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 2: Now they're also eliminating scholarship limits and the introduction of

1798
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 2: roster limits. This is kind of big no more scholarship caps.

1799
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 2: The NCAA will eliminate previous scholarship limits. That's gonna off.

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01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 2: That's going to allow schools to offer as many scholarships

1801
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 2: as they wish and roster sizes. And now this one's

1802
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 2: interesting because if you go back to say the seventies,

1803
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:16,640
Speaker 2: when Barry Switcher was coaching at at at Oklahoma, he

1804
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 2: was a brilliant recruiter. He'd go into the state of

1805
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 2: Texas minunderstanding he get the top two players in Texas

1806
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 2: and put them on scholarship just so Texas couldn't get them.

1807
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 2: Then they created the scholarship rules, the thirty ninety scholarship rules.

1808
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 2: You can only have a total of ninety kids on

1809
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 2: roster in thirty one year over four years. It was

1810
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 2: not that complicated, but it put a cap around. That's gone.

1811
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 2: Now that's gone. Now roster limits are going to be enforced. Okay,

1812
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 2: there're gonna be roster limits for D one sports. How

1813
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:51,480
Speaker 2: you're an athlete and your roster spot was cutting anticipation

1814
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 2: in the limit, you're gonna be grandfathered in. It won't

1815
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 2: count against the roster caps for the remainder of your eligibility.

1816
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have unlimited scholarships and roster it's at

1817
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 2: least for the next couple three years. That are to

1818
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 2: be outrageous and you want, you know, everybody can get paid. Theoretically,

1819
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 2: now there is going to be an enforcement mechanism which

1820
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 2: really didn't exist before. It certainly didn't exist. It's going

1821
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 2: to be called the CSC, the Colline Sports Commission. It's

1822
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 2: a brand new entity. It'll oversee all the revenue sharing

1823
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 2: and NIL deal enforcement. So what's going to try to

1824
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 2: do is provide some structure and neutralize things. I think

1825
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 2: Deloitte is going to be the firm that's going to

1826
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 2: run a platform called NIL and nil deals over six

1827
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 2: hundred dollars are going to be reviewed to reflect the

1828
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,759
Speaker 2: show fair market value and have a real valid business purpose.

1829
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 2: Before it was totally paid for play, which is still is.

1830
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:46,840
Speaker 2: But again this is nil and if you go to

1831
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 2: a dispute, NIL enforcement will be resolved through arbitration, which

1832
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 2: is good because it's a more transparent process for athletes.

1833
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 2: So there are some you know, unintended constant says of

1834
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 2: this which are going to arise. Certainly you're gonna have

1835
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 2: some potential challenges and there are still some unresolved issues.

1836
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,600
Speaker 2: You've got Title nine concerns because this settlement does not

1837
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 2: explicitly mandate gender equitable distribution of revenue sharing. I think

1838
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 2: you can expect to see some Title nine lawsuits when

1839
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 2: you you know you consider high profile players a couple

1840
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 2: of years ago, Caitlin Clark at Iowa and your rees

1841
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 2: at lsu Juju at UCL at USC. You get my point.

1842
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 2: I want to I don't want to try to pretend

1843
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 2: like I know all these players. The bottom line is

1844
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 2: if there isn't gender equitability, which they haven't really addressed,

1845
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 2: some of these higher profile players might have, you know,

1846
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,519
Speaker 2: a lawsuit, which I know. That's where Paul Finbaum was

1847
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 2: concerned as well. We really how much of our focus

1848
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 2: are we're going to keep on the field. How much

1849
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 2: is going to be taken away? All right? Because the

1850
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,799
Speaker 2: college has been you know, litigation one litigation after another,

1851
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 2: and it does get to be tiresome. And there's one

1852
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 2: thing that Paul Finebaum did say that to me, I'm

1853
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:14,799
Speaker 2: curious what Mark Emmert would say, because when Paul Finebaum,

1854
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 2: and again all the starts toly first fine Baum said quote,

1855
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 2: I could not help but think about ten years ago.

1856
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 2: That's when Mark Emmert was then the president of the

1857
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 2: NCAA essentially said college athletes will be paid over my

1858
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 2: dead body. Well he's clearly still alive, but the NCAA

1859
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 2: is dead. That's what Paul Finbaum said, So this is

1860
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 2: not without some questions and some unresolved issues, and since

1861
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,080
Speaker 2: there's always been litigation, you can expect litigation to continue.

1862
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 2: Issues like athlete employment status, title line compliance, and what

1863
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 2: is the definition of fair market value in NIL deals

1864
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 2: that will face legal challenges. There's also going to be

1865
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 2: quite an impact on smaller schools and non revenue sports.

1866
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: With smaller schools and non revenue generating sports, are they

1867
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,679
Speaker 2: going to face financial challenges when they have to compete

1868
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 2: with larger athletic departments with higher revenue sharing caps. I

1869
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 2: don't want to see Olympic sports go away. I believe

1870
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 2: you have to have a minimum of fourteen sports to

1871
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 2: be Division one. You know, I don't want to see

1872
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 2: wrestling programs go away because of this. So, if there

1873
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:26,280
Speaker 2: is in fact revenue sharing, and the best thing they

1874
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 2: can do is make this gender equitable so they could

1875
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 2: keep lawsuits to minimum, tooth of the matter.

1876
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 10: Is now.

1877
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 2: There truly is enough of the pie to go around

1878
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 2: for everybody everybody. I really believe that. And you know,

1879
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 2: if you want to get greedy because you want your

1880
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 2: share and half the other guys, then we're not gonna

1881
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 2: stop watching the games on TV, and they're still going

1882
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:54,519
Speaker 2: to be the same lopsided competitive balance or imbalance as

1883
01:38:54,600 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 2: it were. We're still gonna watch, We're not stopping. So

1884
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,560
Speaker 2: what's the future of college sports? Well, its slowly, but

1885
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 2: surely if you haven't noticed very much shifting toward a

1886
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 2: professional model. I know some people push back on that

1887
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 2: because the contracts and free I think, but the tooth

1888
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 2: of the matter is this whole settlement dramatically changes the

1889
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 2: definition of amateurism and significantly alters the amateurism model of

1890
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 2: college athletics. Okay, so they're getting closer and closer to

1891
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 2: a professional sports structure. Because you're going to have direct

1892
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 2: athlete compensation and revenue sharing, you're also going to have

1893
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 2: something else, collective bargaining. The concept of collective bargaining and

1894
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: potential unionization is gained traction. Do I think student athletes

1895
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 2: will have re union? I no, I don't. No, you're

1896
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 2: in or out of college three four years. No, I

1897
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 2: don't think they can coalesce that way. You've got you know,

1898
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,120
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty six division ones. No, No, I

1899
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 2: don't see that it's gaining traction. What are the hell

1900
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 2: they need a union? For what exactly would that do

1901
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 2: for than that they're not getting now they already hit

1902
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 2: the jackpot. There's also going to be a call for

1903
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 2: federal legislation because the NCAA and Power Conferences, they're currently

1904
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:12,799
Speaker 2: lobbying Congress for national legislation to pre up state INNIL

1905
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 2: laws and provide ANA trust immunity. So you see where

1906
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 2: they're going with that. They want even more power. And frankly,

1907
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 2: there should be instead of state by state by state

1908
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 2: nil you know stipulations. I think that frankly, there should be,

1909
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 2: you know, a situation where maybe it is more uniform

1910
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 2: across the board. By the way, in case you missed it,

1911
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers was in mini camp this week in Pittsburgh.

1912
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 2: He's not wearing Terry Bradshaw's old number, that's for sure,

1913
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 2: but he is wearing a Pittsburgh Steelers jersey. Now, what's

1914
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 2: funny about this is that this will be a story

1915
01:40:56,840 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 2: all year. And here's why many athletes and celebrities are

1916
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 2: universally loved. No matter what, Aaron Rodgers will never be

1917
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 2: on that list despite his status is one of the

1918
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 2: greatest quarterbacks of all time. If you just look around

1919
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 2: social media, what's blown in the wind. Here's a dude who,

1920
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 2: at forty one years old, just signs a contract with

1921
01:41:22,479 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers. Is largely loathed by a great portion of

1922
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:34,120
Speaker 2: the social media group Think Echo Chamber. As matter of fact,

1923
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 2: you know there was a I think they had a

1924
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 2: big an article recently in Pittsburgh do you like this

1925
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 2: deal or not? And one Steelers fan just said boo

1926
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 2: with about ten O's Okay. Now, what's interesting is the

1927
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 2: fans have disdained for Rogers, or a lot of them

1928
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 2: do not all but believe it or not, not all

1929
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 2: of his former teammates feel the same way. Right, Remember

1930
01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 2: some followed them from Green Bay to New York and

1931
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 2: some encourage them to re turned to the Gents was

1932
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 2: his decision. And despite the fact that Aaron Rodgers was

1933
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 2: very frustrated back in twenty twenty, it seems like an

1934
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,719
Speaker 2: inch in history. Now, remember how bent when Aaron Rodgers

1935
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 2: found out that the Packers picked Jordan Love and moved

1936
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:17,599
Speaker 2: up to get him. Well, it was not really reported fairly.

1937
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 2: Rogers actually willingly tutored Jordan Love, and believe it or not,

1938
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Love invited Aaron Rodgers to his wedding. So this

1939
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 2: is a very complex, complex issue. So the real question

1940
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 2: now becomes, forget everything that's happened, and there have been

1941
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 2: plenty of forty one year old quarterbacks you've done well.

1942
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 2: You know about Tom Brady, how about Warren Moon through

1943
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 2: twenty five touchdown passes at the age of forty one,

1944
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:48,840
Speaker 2: he was outstanding. The value that Aaron Rodgers rings to

1945
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh might be more positive than most people are willing

1946
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 2: to admit or realize. But that's not the real discussion here.

1947
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm dancing around it. The real question, the real question,

1948
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 2: he's whether Aaron Rodgers is still starting level talent. If

1949
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 2: you look at it on film, there are pros and cons.

1950
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 2: I say yes, because the quarterback position in the NFL

1951
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 2: is the thinnest in all the sports. That's not debatable.

1952
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 2: The failure eate of first rounders is fifty percent. It's

1953
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 2: more than that. You've heard me give the commentary over

1954
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 2: the years many times. So on the upshot. Look, let's

1955
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 2: be fair to Aaron Rodgers. First, he had a broken

1956
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 2: thumb early in twenty twenty two. Then he has the

1957
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 2: achilles tear in twenty twenty three and reported hamstring. He

1958
01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:40,919
Speaker 2: had knee and ankle injuries last season, so in fairness,

1959
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,720
Speaker 2: Rogers has not been fully healthy since twenty twenty one.

1960
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 2: That year, at age thirty eight, Rogers led Green Bay

1961
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 2: to a thirteen to three record through for four thousand yards,

1962
01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 2: thirty seven touchdowns, only four interceptions. The Packers were on

1963
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 2: their way to the NFC Championship and a block punt

1964
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 2: claused him to not go. All right, I get it,

1965
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:06,600
Speaker 2: that was four years ago. His mobility, rogers mobility was

1966
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 2: very inconsistent last season. But as hard as I as

1967
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 2: harsh as I was with Rogers on a lot of things,

1968
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 2: he showed some glimmers as the season went on, because

1969
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 2: you know, at one time he was very agile. Okay,

1970
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 2: So that causes you to think about two things. One

1971
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 2: his killes recovery played a role last season, and two

1972
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 2: the Steelers they have a better offensive line, but it's

1973
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 2: a young offensive line that's going to be critical because

1974
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 2: if Rogers can move like he showed and flashes in

1975
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 2: New York in the second half of the season, the Steelers.

1976
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 2: You know this, this mischie got's about. This was going

1977
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 2: to be Mike Tomblin's first losing year based on what

1978
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 2: he went ten and seven last year with Justin Fields

1979
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 2: and Russell Wilson. He went nine and eight with Kenny Pick.

1980
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 2: He can't go and win nine or ten games with

1981
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers assuming he stays healthy. Best case scenario, a

1982
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 2: healthy Rogers, a somewhat nimble Rogers returns to his form

1983
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 2: at least back in twenty twenty one. The guy can

1984
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 2: throw a deep ball. Still, He can throw a deep ball.

1985
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 2: His arm talent is still pretty much there, although I

1986
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 2: know he missed a couple deep throws last year in

1987
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 2: the Jets, But you gotta fletch that whole thing down

1988
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 2: the toilet. I realized that dk met like Metcalf, is

1989
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 2: not a precise rot runner, and that could be a

1990
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:35,200
Speaker 2: collision course waiting to happen with Aaron Rodgers. But he's

1991
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 2: got explosiveness to beat the band, and he's going to

1992
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 2: create lighter boxes for Arthur Smith's because they're gonna have

1993
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 2: a run heavy offense right that opens up passing lanes.

1994
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 2: Rodgers buys in the Smith's play action passing game. If

1995
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 2: he does, what do you want to bet? Rogers and

1996
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:56,880
Speaker 2: Metcalf have quite a duel this year. It's theoretical, it's conjecture,

1997
01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 2: But again it's an opinion based on information. Beyond that,

1998
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh I believe gives Aaron Rodgers the best defense he

1999
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 2: will have had in fifteen years. That defense helped Aaron

2000
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 2: Rodgers get to the Super Bowl and the only super

2001
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 2: Bowl he won. All Right, So the question is, if

2002
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 2: all this works out, can Aaron Rodgers lead Pittsburgh to

2003
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 2: the playoffs and maybe even their first playoff wins since

2004
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. You cannot rule that out. That is not

2005
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 2: a zero. All right, that's the positive outlook. Coming up,

2006
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 2: we'll take a look at the negative outlook. We have

2007
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 2: to be fair about this. For the best pregame show

2008
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 2: every week, and be sure to tune into Fox Sports

2009
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 2: Radio's Countdown presented by BETMGM every Saturday and Sunday morning

2010
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 2: from nine am to noon Eastern six to nine am Pacific,

2011
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 2: will count you down to all the biggest games. Tune

2012
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,639
Speaker 2: into Countdown presented by BETMGM every Saturday and Sunday morning

2013
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:57,559
Speaker 2: right aeron Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app.

2014
01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 2: Coming up, we continue on Aaron Rodgers. I gave you

2015
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 2: the plus side of the ledger. Let's balance the sheet

2016
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,799
Speaker 2: and look at the negative side of the ledger because

2017
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 2: you have to at least evaluate and consider the worst

2018
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 2: case scenarios. As Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Pirates are

2019
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 2: now official. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We are company live from

2020
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio Studios. So keep it locked

2021
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 2: right here. You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on

2022
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right, back with the Bernie Fradle Show.

2023
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, coming a line from the Tirec dot

2024
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 2: Com studios. You're in Las Vegas. So we're trying to

2025
01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 2: give an objective analysis Aaron Rodgers in terms of what

2026
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 2: can the Steelers really expect? And on the positive note,

2027
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,599
Speaker 2: he really hasn't been healthy since twenty twenty one, broken thumbs, achilles, tears,

2028
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 2: am springs, knees, ankles, all that. If he can somewhat

2029
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,560
Speaker 2: revert to his twenty twenty one form, which is not

2030
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 2: a zero. But then of course, together question is would

2031
01:47:56,040 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 2: sustained for the full seventeen week season, and then I

2032
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 2: think this can bode well for Pittsburgh. I know him

2033
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 2: in the minority. I got a funny feeling that's gonna

2034
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 2: work out. But we'll see. It could be wrong because

2035
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:10,560
Speaker 2: there is a downside too, and you can't tell the

2036
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 2: story without, you know, without really looking at both sides objectively.

2037
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 2: So this version of Rogers, he still has a little

2038
01:48:24,280 --> 01:48:26,519
Speaker 2: bit of the y factor. He shows glimmers of it,

2039
01:48:26,640 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 2: shows shades of it, but really it looks like it's

2040
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 2: a limited version of that, meaning he's not really able

2041
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:35,400
Speaker 2: to throw the ball with a total torque or step

2042
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 2: up when necessary when you look at him on film.

2043
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 2: In the best sports case scenario, Rogers will probably have

2044
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 2: to fight through some physical limitations to at least, you know,

2045
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 2: start fourteen to fifteen games this year, and at least

2046
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:54,840
Speaker 2: maybe take a page from the twenty fifteen Peyton Manning book,

2047
01:48:55,720 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 2: and the Broncos won a Super Bowl. Now Manning was

2048
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 2: aging then, Okay, he clearly I think he's played thirty

2049
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:06,560
Speaker 2: eight then, and he struggled. He threw for nine touchdowns

2050
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:09,920
Speaker 2: and seventeen interceptions, but he gave Denver just enough of

2051
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:13,799
Speaker 2: a passing game because he had two running backs, cig

2052
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 2: Anderson and Ronnie Hillman, and the Broncos had a historically

2053
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 2: strong defense, and Manning still, even though he didn't put

2054
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:23,160
Speaker 2: up gaudy numbers, knew what to do on third down,

2055
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 2: fourth quarter and in the red zone, and those are

2056
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 2: your money situations for quarterbacks that don't pay it a punt.

2057
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 2: So I think if Rogers can channel twenty fifteen Peyton

2058
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:37,439
Speaker 2: Manning and when it matters most, can you be great

2059
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 2: when the situation the man's greatness that remains to be seen,

2060
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:43,200
Speaker 2: or there could be a real hell of a bad

2061
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:47,639
Speaker 2: This could go really poorly. Worst case scenario because if

2062
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 2: I don't want to cast dispersions, but if Rogers play

2063
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 2: reverts to his earlier twenty twenty four to form last year,

2064
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 2: and he starts to publicly question coaching and management and

2065
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 2: teammates like he did in Green Bay, and he starts

2066
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 2: to give unsolicited comments and in a very divisive world,

2067
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 2: this could be disastrous. According to a writer from The

2068
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 2: Athletic named Mike Jones, I'll quote him. He says. Mike

2069
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:19,960
Speaker 2: Jones says, quote, if we're being honest, the best realistic

2070
01:50:20,080 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 2: scenario involves this experiment going woefully wrong, and at last,

2071
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 2: the Steelers find themselves in position to draft the top

2072
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:33,680
Speaker 2: flight quarterback. At worst, the Rogers and Steelers labor through

2073
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:37,280
Speaker 2: another season and finish a take above five hundred, as

2074
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 2: is customary only to remain stuck in football purgatory with

2075
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 2: no clear path out. Unquote. That is Mike Jones from

2076
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 2: the Athletic Now. For the most part, I think all

2077
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 2: the concerns regarding Rogers and whatever impact he's going to

2078
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 2: have on the Pittsburgh Steelers, not only on the field

2079
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:58,480
Speaker 2: but the culture as well, are a little bit overblown

2080
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 2: because Mike Tomlin is the boss. Okay, somehow they kept

2081
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 2: Antonio Brown under wraps, and I'm choosing not to report

2082
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,600
Speaker 2: on that story tonight. You've heard it. He's wanted for

2083
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:10,679
Speaker 2: attempted murder. I don't know what happened, and I don't

2084
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:12,200
Speaker 2: talk about things. I don't know what the hell I'm

2085
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 2: talking about. I'm hearing reports. He's overseas now too, and

2086
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:17,640
Speaker 2: he would not want to be an issues. But I

2087
01:51:17,680 --> 01:51:20,599
Speaker 2: don't know anything about it. But you remember, Antonio Brown

2088
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,679
Speaker 2: was no choir boy with the Steelers, but he produced

2089
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 2: for the Steelers and put up gaudy numbers, and they

2090
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 2: kept him in line. If anything, Rogers, in his notorious

2091
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 2: attention to detailing willingness when he really wants to be

2092
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 2: buttoned up in crisp and mentor young players, should be

2093
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:42,879
Speaker 2: a net positive. I realize there's some on field decline,

2094
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:46,799
Speaker 2: potentially a lot of on field decline. But if he's healthy,

2095
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:49,759
Speaker 2: I don't think you need to get that concerned about

2096
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 2: that until you have to. Right, there might be something

2097
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:55,560
Speaker 2: left in the tank. I've told you about other quarterbacks

2098
01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 2: you know that have frankly done pretty well well after

2099
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:03,759
Speaker 2: you know, when you when you get you know Rogers

2100
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 2: agent above. I've done some research on this, and I

2101
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:10,560
Speaker 2: mean there's a list of guys. There's a lot of

2102
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 2: all time great quarterbacks who did pretty well in their

2103
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 2: later years. And I just mentioned Warren Moon, right, Joe Montana,

2104
01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 2: John Elway, Moon was what twenty five touchdown passes. So

2105
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 2: you have to let this play out. Give the dude

2106
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 2: who's day in court. There might be something there. I'm

2107
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 2: giving Pittsburgh top credit for taking sort of this risk

2108
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 2: free approach last year. They got a discounted Russell Wilson,

2109
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 2: they got justin fields for a song, and that allowed

2110
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 2: him to avoid reaching for a quarterback because I don't

2111
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 2: really like this quarterback draft this year, and they weren't

2112
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,640
Speaker 2: going to get cam Ward and I know it was

2113
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 2: very uninspiring draft for them to try to reach for

2114
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 2: one and you know they draft. You know Kenny pick

2115
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 2: It was drafted in twenty twenty two. I know what

2116
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:03,640
Speaker 2: he wants to pick on him. He's not going to

2117
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 2: win you a super Bowl most likely. But he's also

2118
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 2: fifteen and ten as a starter. That's not nothing. Justin

2119
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,600
Speaker 2: Fields is fourteen and thirty as a starter. Again, just

2120
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:15,719
Speaker 2: the facts, not the feelings. Best of all, again, going

2121
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 2: back to Mike Jones of The Athletic said quote, if

2122
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 2: this experiment doesn't work well, the Steelers should be positioned

2123
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 2: to pick early in twenty twenty six. But if Mike

2124
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 2: Tomlin's nineteen season ends with a positive record, no playoff win,

2125
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh must he put must in italics, must use the

2126
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 2: plethora of compensatory picks they're projected to receive in twenty

2127
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:44,120
Speaker 2: twenty six, including an extra third rounder, to justify a

2128
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 2: big swing upward, because it is a potential to load

2129
01:53:47,240 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty six quarterback class. Then you might get

2130
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:56,599
Speaker 2: a new quarterback that can change the franchise. Now, everything

2131
01:53:56,640 --> 01:54:00,479
Speaker 2: we've talked about is just pablum. It's the pros and cons.

2132
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 2: It's what we're dealing with. How do other people who

2133
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 2: get paid to do this feel about this, Well, I

2134
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:11,719
Speaker 2: gotta tell you. One former Jets executive set he believed

2135
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:14,280
Speaker 2: the Steelers will be completely irrelevant in twenty twenty five.

2136
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 2: And he said that, you know, he thinks Aaron Rodgers

2137
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:22,840
Speaker 2: is going to be irrelevant by Thanksgiving, said quote, the

2138
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:24,840
Speaker 2: Steelers will be a non playoff team with a forty

2139
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:26,639
Speaker 2: two year old quarterback who was a legend that's going

2140
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 2: off on the sunset who said that I got a

2141
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 2: respect a lot Mike Tannenbaum. You see him on TV.

2142
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: He's an interesting guy. Thanks to Mike Tannenbaum, Howie Roseman

2143
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 2: has a job as a GM, the president of the

2144
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles. You may or may not know this story.

2145
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 2: Howie Roseman motor wrote over one thousand letters to all

2146
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 2: the NFL teams. It was the most classic letter of

2147
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 2: all time. He said, I've never played football, ever been

2148
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,240
Speaker 2: on a football field, never done it. But I'll be

2149
01:54:58,320 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 2: the best GM in the history of the NFL if

2150
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 2: you hiraby. Mike Cannabaum was so curious he agreed to

2151
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 2: talk to him. He said, they don't really have anything

2152
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 2: for you, not even an internship, but he called one

2153
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 2: of his buddies in Philadelphis. He needed to talk to

2154
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 2: this guy and the rest of his history. So Tannabaum,

2155
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 2: this is not his first barbecue. But also, if we're

2156
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 2: being fair, you could also say that Mike Tannabaum doesn't

2157
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 2: exactly have the greatest track record. When discussing Steelers quarterbacks

2158
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:28,520
Speaker 2: many many years ago, he said Ben Roethlisberger was going

2159
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 2: to be bad out of the twenty twenty one season,

2160
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 2: said I expected to be benched by the middle of

2161
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 2: the season. Well, Roethlisberger through twenty two touchdown passes ten interceptions,

2162
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 2: he wasn't benched, and the he led the the Steelers

2163
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 2: to the playoffs in his final season. Now I know

2164
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 2: I can't have it both ways. I just mentioned that

2165
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 2: in helmets and shorts you couldn't really judge exactly what

2166
01:55:56,600 --> 01:56:01,000
Speaker 2: the hell was going on with Door Sanders, and I

2167
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 2: gave multiple reasons why.

2168
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 11: But in.

2169
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:09,879
Speaker 2: Shorts and helmets, apparently Rogers has been turning heads in Pittsburgh.

2170
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 2: But this is a guy who's also won, you know,

2171
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 2: hundreds of games in the NFL playoffs, Super Bowl. He's

2172
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, four time MVP. So you'll you'll

2173
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:23,800
Speaker 2: cut me a little slack here because According to reports,

2174
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers immediately made it a pressure that he has

2175
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 2: something left in the tank. And you know, Tuesday he

2176
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:34,680
Speaker 2: showed up for mandatory mini camp and one of the

2177
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 2: radio personalities for Katie K Pittsburgh of a long time

2178
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 2: respected station, Richie Walsh, he was in a tenants in practice.

2179
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 2: He came away. He said he was very impressed with

2180
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 2: how Rogers arm looked right off the back. He said, quote,

2181
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:52,400
Speaker 2: I know it's just throwing footballs around in sports, but

2182
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 2: he still has an arm. He's slinging it around. It

2183
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 2: just comes out so quick. He's aligning it, he's slinging it,

2184
01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 2: he's firing it. There's zip on the ball. Throwing thirty

2185
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 2: yards down the field with some zip twenty one years

2186
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,440
Speaker 2: in the NFL, Rodgers hass, now, that's quite an accomplishment.

2187
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:10,800
Speaker 2: I'll get it. He's a pro. He's a future Hall

2188
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 2: of Famer, no doubt about that. And he will likely

2189
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:18,400
Speaker 2: pass Ben Roethlisberger for the fifth most passing yards in

2190
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 2: the league. He only needs about eleven hundred yards to

2191
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:27,080
Speaker 2: do that. And if you're willing to keep an open

2192
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,720
Speaker 2: mind and just flush twenty twenty four, it was not

2193
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 2: only a disaster for Rogers. It was a disaster for

2194
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 2: the New York Jets. They came into the year with

2195
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 2: playoff expectations and yeah, we know they only win five

2196
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 2: and twelve. But Rogers, if you look at it and objectively,

2197
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 2: did kind of hold his own on the aggregate. And again,

2198
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 2: he's coming off a torny two achilles, he suffered a

2199
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 2: week one of the year before. Still he threw for

2200
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:54,560
Speaker 2: you know, thirty nine hundred yards, twenty eight touchdowns and

2201
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 2: eleven interceptions in his only full season with the Jets.

2202
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 2: The organization had enough, They all had enough fatigue. They

2203
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 2: released him after welcoming in the new regime and after

2204
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:08,240
Speaker 2: months of waiting round for a decision, which I believe

2205
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 2: I will always believe Pittsburgh and Aaron had a handshake

2206
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 2: agreement and that Rogers had some personal issues to contend to.

2207
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 2: I believe that Rogers is on the Steelers' roster several

2208
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 2: years of instability at the quarterback position. Maybe for one year,

2209
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 2: they're trying to get as much out of Rogers in

2210
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,760
Speaker 2: one year that they can possibly get out of him.

2211
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 2: Maybe he provides a spark on offense and he helps

2212
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 2: lead the charge, and Pittsburgh is back in the postseason

2213
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 2: and maybe they even won a playoff game. Again, it's

2214
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:40,560
Speaker 2: all conjecture, but you know what, we're all going to

2215
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 2: be watching. And the opposite of love is not hate,

2216
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 2: it's indifference. Haters will be watching as well. Coming up

2217
01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:49,120
Speaker 2: brand newfool and what my name? Keep it locked to

2218
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraddles Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2219
01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:54,080
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

2220
01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 2: Yep, bet straight, you heard the man of the Bernie

2221
01:58:57,320 --> 01:59:00,880
Speaker 2: Fraddle Show keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frati.

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01:59:00,920 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 2: We're coming to line from the Fox Sports Radio studios

2223
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:07,520
Speaker 2: here in a Las Vegas. Really appreciate again all the

2224
01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 2: efforts of everybody in our midnight hour calls. That will

2225
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:15,840
Speaker 2: always be something we'll do every every week, and it's

2226
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 2: people shouldn't take it too serious. And the idea is

2227
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 2: to have a sports discussion a little off the beaten track.

2228
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 2: And we're coming up on my favorite month of the year,

2229
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 2: which is July. Because the sports talk show hosts hate July.

2230
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:33,320
Speaker 2: I love July because it gives us a blank canvas

2231
01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 2: to talk about things as opposed to simply react to things.

2232
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you one of the things we do

2233
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 2: react to because here on the Bernie Frattle Show, as

2234
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 2: Jogi Barrett would say, you can observe a lot by watching.

2235
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,320
Speaker 2: That's exactly what we do. Because around this great country

2236
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:51,280
Speaker 2: of ours, from Seed to Oily Sea, and even around

2237
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 2: the globe, well, people engage in behaviors. And sometimes these

2238
01:59:55,400 --> 01:59:58,600
Speaker 2: behaviors are very questionable. Now, sometimes they are innocuous, they're

2239
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 2: kind of silly, they're kind of stupid. Other times they're

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Speaker 2: more serious. Many times they run a file of the law,

2241
02:00:03,160 --> 02:00:06,080
Speaker 2: and sometimes they're very serious. Then involves criminal charges and

2242
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 2: people end up in jail. But anyway you slice it, anyway,

2243
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:14,280
Speaker 2: you describe it, anyway you characterize these behaviors, we always will.

2244
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 2: They always leave us scratching our head and asking ourselves,

2245
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 2: what kind of brand new fool you?

2246
02:00:25,680 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 1: So, what kind of brand new fool are you?

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02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:32,760
Speaker 2: Well, we take you to Deltona, Florida, and this one's

2248
02:00:32,800 --> 02:00:37,920
Speaker 2: a beauty because you're gonna meet mister Dewey. And you know,

2249
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 2: criminals like to leave clues, and this one is this

2250
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 2: is this is a beauty because the first thing mister

2251
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 2: Dewey did was he went to a Florida neighborhood and

2252
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 2: he started, you know, case in the place, and he

2253
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:54,600
Speaker 2: saw lots of parked cars right in the roll and

2254
02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:58,480
Speaker 2: a couple of homes, and he decided he would go

2255
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:00,960
Speaker 2: car to car to see what he could steal. And

2256
02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:04,360
Speaker 2: what's interesting is, you know, criminals, you need to you know,

2257
02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:08,120
Speaker 2: food is fuel. You don't begin any athletic endeavor without,

2258
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:12,120
Speaker 2: you know, nourishing yourself. So what mister Dewey found in

2259
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 2: a trash can conveniently near the first car he broke into,

2260
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 2: was a half eaten pizza, So why not he took

2261
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:22,840
Speaker 2: the pizza box, carried it, and as he continued his

2262
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:26,280
Speaker 2: little spree, he was, you know, have a little nash

2263
02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:31,520
Speaker 2: having some pizza, right, So according to police, uh, well,

2264
02:01:31,560 --> 02:01:33,440
Speaker 2: we'll say we're gonna get to that in a second, right,

2265
02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 2: So what what what basically ensued was mister Dewey went

2266
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 2: car to car and that actually, you know, he'd open

2267
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:45,320
Speaker 2: center consoles and he'd find he'd open glove boxes and

2268
02:01:45,400 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 2: every one of the cars you could see had been

2269
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:53,560
Speaker 2: rummaged through. And he was able to get away with wallets,

2270
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:56,400
Speaker 2: and he was able to get away with believe it

2271
02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 2: or not, somebody had a nine millimeter handgun he stole

2272
02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:03,560
Speaker 2: and he's eating his pizza and he's making his deals

2273
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:07,720
Speaker 2: and making his rounds. And then somebody witnessed this, right,

2274
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 2: he witnessed this, and again he ended up getting credit

2275
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:17,920
Speaker 2: cards and all sorts of stuff. But finally he stopped

2276
02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 2: at a gas station where police questioned and they weren't

2277
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:27,720
Speaker 2: sure if they had the right guy, even though he

2278
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:30,160
Speaker 2: had been pointed out by a couple of witnesses. But

2279
02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:33,480
Speaker 2: that wasn't quite enough. But then in one of the

2280
02:02:33,600 --> 02:02:38,040
Speaker 2: cars they found a pizza box with a couple of

2281
02:02:38,160 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 2: leftover pizzas in it, and he hadn't finished them yet,

2282
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:51,040
Speaker 2: but was what was the Mister Dewey had pizza sauce

2283
02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:54,840
Speaker 2: on his face, which correlates to the pizza box in

2284
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:58,320
Speaker 2: the cars and sauce in some of the cars where

2285
02:02:58,360 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 2: he got a little sloppy and when the police said

2286
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 2: he was under arrest. According to the news release, this

2287
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 2: cracks me up. The quote that mister Dewey said was

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02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:13,600
Speaker 2: you got me red handed, so mean he did their

2289
02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:15,680
Speaker 2: pizza sausage of forget a pizza sauce of bread? You

2290
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 2: already do that? Well now, mister Dewey faces charges of

2291
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:22,320
Speaker 2: arm burglary of a conveyance, burglary of a conveyance, four

2292
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:24,800
Speaker 2: counts of fraud, and the use of credit cards, grand

2293
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:26,880
Speaker 2: theft of a firearm, possession of a firearm by a

2294
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:30,480
Speaker 2: convicted fellow, theft and dealing was still in property. At

2295
02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:32,160
Speaker 2: least he got the free pizza out of the deal,

2296
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:38,480
Speaker 2: which leads us to our typical conclusion. Mister Dewey of Florida,

2297
02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:42,840
Speaker 2: who burglarizes a bunch of cars while eating pizza, was

2298
02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:46,080
Speaker 2: caught red handed because he forgot to wipe his mouth

2299
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 2: with a napkin. Mister Dewey of Florida, Deltona, Florida, What

2300
02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 2: kind of brand new fool?

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02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:51,440
Speaker 7: Are you?

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02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:55,560
Speaker 2: All right? Brianna? Take it away?

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02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:59,560
Speaker 15: Alrighty. So we know people usually get kicked out of

2304
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:03,440
Speaker 15: bars for different reasons. My dad was a bartender Happy

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02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 15: Father's Day and in Las Vegas, so I'm sure he's

2306
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:09,640
Speaker 15: he had to kick out a few people back in

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02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:14,680
Speaker 15: his day of being a Las Vegas bartender, which you know, obviously, Bernie,

2308
02:04:14,920 --> 02:04:17,840
Speaker 15: people get super rowdy out there, right, So we're gonna

2309
02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:23,920
Speaker 15: go to Kentucky. This man was known as a cowboy Cody,

2310
02:04:24,520 --> 02:04:28,960
Speaker 15: so he was visiting an establishment and he did have

2311
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:32,680
Speaker 15: a history of being kind of kicked out before, but

2312
02:04:32,840 --> 02:04:35,080
Speaker 15: he all, you know, they always made up. The bartender

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02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:37,200
Speaker 15: always kind of forgave him and he would just come

2314
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:40,879
Speaker 15: back right. Usually in a small town of Murray, Kentucky.

2315
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:44,520
Speaker 15: So his name was Jonathan Mason. He was forty years old,

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02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:48,240
Speaker 15: and like I said, he was known as a cowboy Cody.

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02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:52,040
Speaker 15: So I guess there was one night he just got

2318
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:55,600
Speaker 15: a little bit too rowdy. A little bit before nine pm,

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02:04:56,240 --> 02:05:00,160
Speaker 15: the police, the Murray Police Department, received a call that

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02:05:00,840 --> 02:05:05,000
Speaker 15: somebody had released a live raccoon into the bar and

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02:05:05,120 --> 02:05:10,080
Speaker 15: it had fit two patrons. He had just left the

2322
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:12,400
Speaker 15: raccoon there to go into the bar and then he

2323
02:05:12,640 --> 02:05:16,040
Speaker 15: had driven off and he was stopped at a traffic stop,

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02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:20,879
Speaker 15: you know, and obviously was arrested. He was charged with assault,

2325
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Speaker 15: criminal trespassing, resisting arrest, and failure to have proper insurance

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Speaker 15: as well. And he's a scheduled to appear in court

2327
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:37,240
Speaker 15: later next week. So Cowboy Cody aka Jonathan Murray, what

2328
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:39,440
Speaker 15: kind of brand new fool are you?

2329
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:43,840
Speaker 2: Cowboy quote Cody? So much for happy our cowboy Cody,

2330
02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna be dot now all right? Well, that's the thing.

2331
02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:50,440
Speaker 2: A brand new fool. You know, people just do stupid things.

2332
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:54,920
Speaker 2: There's just an endless supply of the things that people

2333
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:57,120
Speaker 2: do and most of the time and lands them where

2334
02:05:57,120 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 2: they don't want to land. Sorry. That's another rousing edition

2335
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 2: of what kind of brand New fool You, which now

2336
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:05,760
Speaker 2: allows us to seguey and our second favorite bit, which

2337
02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:09,960
Speaker 2: we refer to as what my name? All right? I

2338
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:14,839
Speaker 2: recently became the only Japanese born Major League Baseball player

2339
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:19,600
Speaker 2: to hit two hundred and fifty home runs Mark Ramsey,

2340
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:22,400
Speaker 2: What my name? Here's a clue. He plays for a

2341
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:23,680
Speaker 2: team near very near you?

2342
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 10: Is it.

2343
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:31,040
Speaker 13: Now?

2344
02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:31,840
Speaker 8: Kobyashi?

2345
02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:33,320
Speaker 13: Oh?

2346
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:34,040
Speaker 6: What's the guys?

2347
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:38,040
Speaker 2: He's the hot dog guy. Kobyashi is the hot dog Guyani.

2348
02:06:38,840 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 2: It is, in fact Shoheotani. He is two hundred and

2349
02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:45,600
Speaker 2: fifty home run Saturday night, which is an incredible accomplishment.

2350
02:06:45,680 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 2: Feels like he's on his way to five hundred home

2351
02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:50,560
Speaker 2: runs and certainly the Hall of Fame a little bit later,

2352
02:06:50,600 --> 02:06:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about he may be back on the

2353
02:06:53,080 --> 02:06:55,760
Speaker 2: mound sooner than people realize, you'd, because well, how many

2354
02:06:55,800 --> 02:06:57,440
Speaker 2: home runs it Intro hit. It troll only hit one

2355
02:06:57,480 --> 02:06:59,600
Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen. He could have hit more. I chose

2356
02:06:59,640 --> 02:07:03,080
Speaker 2: to hit for average. So that's that's the way that rolled,

2357
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:05,280
Speaker 2: all right. We've talked a lot about Rogers and his

2358
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:09,440
Speaker 2: former team, the Jets. The last time the Jets won

2359
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:15,520
Speaker 2: a playoff game, I was there starting quarterback Brianna What

2360
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:18,600
Speaker 2: my name? And by the way, he's very much a

2361
02:07:18,680 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 2: fixture on Colin Coward Show during football season. Mark chanchiz

2362
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 2: Usc also went to Mission Vehicle High School. Does a

2363
02:07:29,160 --> 02:07:31,640
Speaker 2: really good job, and he also does one NFL game

2364
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:34,920
Speaker 2: per week as a color commentator. Really doesn't an excellent job,

2365
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:42,760
Speaker 2: all right. I have led the NFL in sacks cumulatively

2366
02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 2: the last five seasons. Mark Ramsey, what my name? Here's

2367
02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 2: a clue. I play for an AFC team, and I

2368
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:54,920
Speaker 2: have a brother who is quite the sack guy as well,

2369
02:07:55,360 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 2: who just retired a couple of years ago and is

2370
02:07:57,240 --> 02:07:59,040
Speaker 2: now also in the media. What my name.

2371
02:08:01,120 --> 02:08:04,800
Speaker 1: Is it from the family of what JT or got JG?

2372
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 2: You got it right close enough? TJ. Watt is the

2373
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:14,920
Speaker 2: NFL zach leader in the last five years cumulatively, and

2374
02:08:16,080 --> 02:08:19,360
Speaker 2: his brother, of course, was JJ Watt from Wisconsin. Had

2375
02:08:19,440 --> 02:08:24,640
Speaker 2: quite an NFL career himself, mostly with Houston all right,

2376
02:08:24,840 --> 02:08:29,360
Speaker 2: let's talk about NBA playoffs. During the twenty twenty five

2377
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:35,120
Speaker 2: NBA playoffs, I am the player who averaged more fourth

2378
02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:40,080
Speaker 2: quarter points cremulatively in the twenty twenty five playoffs than

2379
02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:44,880
Speaker 2: any other player. Brianna, what my name? Here's the clue.

2380
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:51,000
Speaker 2: My team has been eliminated, been eliminated in the conference finals,

2381
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:57,280
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference or the Eastern Conference finals. And here's

2382
02:08:57,320 --> 02:08:59,520
Speaker 2: another clue. My coach just got fired.

2383
02:08:59,600 --> 02:09:04,280
Speaker 15: Okay, I'm gonna say Jalen Brunson.

2384
02:09:04,720 --> 02:09:08,480
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson the average eight point two points a quarter

2385
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:11,960
Speaker 2: a cumulatively in all the playoff games this year. That's

2386
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:16,640
Speaker 2: quite an accomplishment. All right, let's go back to football.

2387
02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:17,680
Speaker 11: Never heard of them.

2388
02:09:20,360 --> 02:09:24,960
Speaker 2: I am the first black quarterback to make the Hall

2389
02:09:25,000 --> 02:09:28,000
Speaker 2: of Fame. Now, Mark, I've mentioned this gentleman earlier in

2390
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:29,880
Speaker 2: the show. He did quite well. At forty one years

2391
02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:35,080
Speaker 2: old through twenty five touchdown passes. Played mostly with the

2392
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:38,680
Speaker 2: Houston Oilers. Started in Canada, but also played with Seattle

2393
02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:42,040
Speaker 2: Seahawks and even ended up in Kansas City. First black

2394
02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:44,640
Speaker 2: quarterback to make the Hall of Fame, Mark Ramsey, what my.

2395
02:09:44,720 --> 02:09:50,960
Speaker 3: Name of the powder Blue with the oil rig Warren.

2396
02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:54,400
Speaker 2: Moon nicely done the powdery powder blue, love you Blue,

2397
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:07,280
Speaker 2: all right, last one, let's go back to the NBA. I,

2398
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:13,440
Speaker 2: even though I've retired recently won more basketball games. Is

2399
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:16,680
Speaker 2: an NBA head coach than any other NBA head coach

2400
02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:19,080
Speaker 2: in history? Brianna what my name?

2401
02:10:21,960 --> 02:10:24,240
Speaker 15: Recently retire very poor health.

2402
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:34,240
Speaker 2: Yea for four Uh he did win five championships. But

2403
02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:36,720
Speaker 2: he's still he's still kind of knocking around. All right,

2404
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 2: great job, what my name? And what kind of brand

2405
02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 2: new fool of you? Another edition is now in the books.

2406
02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:45,880
Speaker 2: So now listen, I've been I've been talking about this

2407
02:10:46,640 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 2: for a while here that I would I would certainly

2408
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:57,280
Speaker 2: uh address this. Uh shoho tani. I believe he will

2409
02:10:57,320 --> 02:10:59,880
Speaker 2: be back in the Dodgers rotation in July. I think

2410
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:02,880
Speaker 2: it's less likely he's in before the All Star break.

2411
02:11:04,160 --> 02:11:06,480
Speaker 2: Very likely he's in right after the All Star break.

2412
02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:12,840
Speaker 2: And you ask me why well, as well as the

2413
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:16,360
Speaker 2: Dodgers have done this year, and this was an issue

2414
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:22,360
Speaker 2: last year if you look at their cumulative starting pitching statistics. Okay,

2415
02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:27,360
Speaker 2: now this is as of I think Thursday, by the way,

2416
02:11:27,400 --> 02:11:30,440
Speaker 2: before I dive into this huge, huge tip of the cap,

2417
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:35,920
Speaker 2: to Clayton Kershaw. Kershaw now has a record of one

2418
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:39,040
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty four and three. Now he has thirty

2419
02:11:39,040 --> 02:11:42,200
Speaker 2: two no decisions, and then those thirty two no decisions

2420
02:11:42,200 --> 02:11:45,400
Speaker 2: they're twenty two to ten, but a cumulative record of

2421
02:11:45,440 --> 02:11:48,280
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty four and three. When he pitches

2422
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:51,440
Speaker 2: and the Dodgers score four more runs, you talk about

2423
02:11:51,800 --> 02:11:56,320
Speaker 2: rock solid. Saturday Night seven shotout innings, only allowed three hits,

2424
02:11:56,360 --> 02:12:00,400
Speaker 2: one walk, struck O five and is now only twelves

2425
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:03,680
Speaker 2: away for becoming only the fourth left handed pitcher in

2426
02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:07,200
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball with three thousand career strikeouts. But I

2427
02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:11,000
Speaker 2: digress because if you look at the Dodgers starting pitcher

2428
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 2: pitching staff as a whole, and they're cumulative statistics, they

2429
02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:23,400
Speaker 2: have pitched cumulatively three hundred and seventeen innings, Well that's

2430
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:25,880
Speaker 2: not great. That ranks twenty eight the monk all Major

2431
02:12:25,960 --> 02:12:27,640
Speaker 2: League Baseball teams, so they're not getting a lot of

2432
02:12:27,680 --> 02:12:31,920
Speaker 2: deep quality starts. The cumulative era for Dodger starting pitchers

2433
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:36,920
Speaker 2: is in fact four point three to two, that ranks

2434
02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:44,600
Speaker 2: twenty third. Three hundred and nine strikeoutsu cumulatively, that only

2435
02:12:44,680 --> 02:12:51,320
Speaker 2: ranks twentieth. Quality starts only a total of eighteen and we're,

2436
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:54,200
Speaker 2: you know what, fifty five games into the season where

2437
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:57,360
Speaker 2: at times for twenty fifth and home runs allowed, the

2438
02:12:57,400 --> 02:13:01,520
Speaker 2: Dodger starting pitching staff as a Thursday have allowed forty

2439
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:06,000
Speaker 2: nine home runs. So when you look at the fact

2440
02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:09,880
Speaker 2: that in five key key categories innings, pitch e strikeouts,

2441
02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:12,320
Speaker 2: quality starts, and all runs allowed, the Dodgers rang in

2442
02:13:12,360 --> 02:13:14,360
Speaker 2: the bottom ten and all of them and the bottom

2443
02:13:14,400 --> 02:13:20,000
Speaker 2: two in a couple, the Dodgers really can't can't wait.

2444
02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:24,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure to get Choheotani back on their rotation. And

2445
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:28,040
Speaker 2: this is not just smoking the wind. They've been working

2446
02:13:28,160 --> 02:13:32,400
Speaker 2: at this a while. Just last week on Tuesday, while

2447
02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:36,760
Speaker 2: the Dodgers were on the road at Petco Park, Otani

2448
02:13:37,320 --> 02:13:40,800
Speaker 2: pitched three simulated innings. He threw a total of forty

2449
02:13:40,840 --> 02:13:44,760
Speaker 2: four pitches and from people who were there, he looked

2450
02:13:44,800 --> 02:13:53,400
Speaker 2: out standing, okay, And obviously, you know, the Dodgers brought

2451
02:13:53,440 --> 02:13:55,560
Speaker 2: him in under the guys of being a two way player.

2452
02:13:55,600 --> 02:13:58,800
Speaker 2: He was a phenomenal two way player. And you know,

2453
02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:03,400
Speaker 2: the Dodgers havel pitching. But they are getting hurt, they're

2454
02:14:03,440 --> 02:14:05,840
Speaker 2: not performing well. They're doing well enough to you know,

2455
02:14:06,080 --> 02:14:10,160
Speaker 2: be right there in a pennant race, et cetera, and

2456
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:16,200
Speaker 2: Rogers or Dave Roberts said, basically, anything showed show hey

2457
02:14:16,280 --> 02:14:18,960
Speaker 2: can give us is going to be an addition, a

2458
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:21,040
Speaker 2: good addition. It doesn't have to be the full build up.

2459
02:14:21,080 --> 02:14:21,200
Speaker 6: Now.

2460
02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:26,040
Speaker 2: Doctor Neil Trash performed the second repair of his honor

2461
02:14:26,080 --> 02:14:32,240
Speaker 2: collateral loman ligament back in September twenty twenty three. He said,

2462
02:14:32,240 --> 02:14:34,600
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, you know, their their staff, they're out their

2463
02:14:34,640 --> 02:14:36,920
Speaker 2: athletic staff, their training staff. They're going to continue to

2464
02:14:37,480 --> 02:14:39,600
Speaker 2: They're going to set the pace of his recovery. Okay,

2465
02:14:39,680 --> 02:14:43,840
Speaker 2: they were a little just accordingly. As a matter of fact,

2466
02:14:43,880 --> 02:14:46,920
Speaker 2: I said, he had his pitching session on Tuesday. It

2467
02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:48,280
Speaker 2: was supposed to be a Monday, but he filed the

2468
02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:51,640
Speaker 2: ball off his foot in Saint Louis last Sunday, so

2469
02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:57,240
Speaker 2: they decided to delay it. So we know, I mean, look,

2470
02:14:57,280 --> 02:14:58,720
Speaker 2: discretion is a better part of valor.

2471
02:15:00,040 --> 02:15:00,600
Speaker 13: You have to.

2472
02:15:02,320 --> 02:15:07,320
Speaker 2: Time this right. But his pitchy progression actually started last year. Okay,

2473
02:15:07,760 --> 02:15:11,520
Speaker 2: they've been working on this a while, and for the

2474
02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:15,120
Speaker 2: first time on May twenty fifth, when the Dodgers are

2475
02:15:15,160 --> 02:15:19,120
Speaker 2: on on the road in New York, that city Field

2476
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:23,040
Speaker 2: Otani face hitters for the first time. He threw twenty

2477
02:15:23,080 --> 02:15:26,800
Speaker 2: two pitches. Six days later he threw twenty nine. Then

2478
02:15:26,840 --> 02:15:29,320
Speaker 2: ten days after that, which is last Tuesday, he increased

2479
02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:32,440
Speaker 2: his output to forty four. He struck out six batters,

2480
02:15:32,480 --> 02:15:34,440
Speaker 2: only walked one. A lot of ground ball up the middle.

2481
02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:37,240
Speaker 2: It would have probably been a single, but Otani went

2482
02:15:37,280 --> 02:15:39,720
Speaker 2: through a lot of game specific elements, like pitching from

2483
02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:43,240
Speaker 2: the stretch, working on a slidestep, using the pitch clock,

2484
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:47,400
Speaker 2: and everybody said his fastball had life, his sweeper was

2485
02:15:47,480 --> 02:15:53,440
Speaker 2: really good. And here's a guy who clearly is needed, wanted,

2486
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:58,560
Speaker 2: and don't be so sure that he's not back even

2487
02:15:58,640 --> 02:16:02,400
Speaker 2: before the All Star break. In the meantime, I mean,

2488
02:16:02,640 --> 02:16:07,200
Speaker 2: it's worth noting again Clayton kershaw Man. And yeah, he

2489
02:16:07,240 --> 02:16:09,680
Speaker 2: hasn't been available all year. What an effort. Saturday Night

2490
02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:12,720
Speaker 2: Dodgers scored four more runs in his career's one fifty

2491
02:16:12,760 --> 02:16:15,800
Speaker 2: four and three seven shootout innings, three hits, one walk,

2492
02:16:15,880 --> 02:16:19,400
Speaker 2: five k's only twelve k's away from being the fourth player,

2493
02:16:19,840 --> 02:16:25,680
Speaker 2: fourth lefty pitcher with a three thousand career strikeouts. And

2494
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:31,120
Speaker 2: you know, if Clayton kershaw can stay healthy and take

2495
02:16:31,160 --> 02:16:33,480
Speaker 2: the ball every fifth day. But we know he's playing

2496
02:16:33,520 --> 02:16:35,680
Speaker 2: the He's not only playing the back night. He's putting

2497
02:16:35,720 --> 02:16:38,680
Speaker 2: out you know, near the eighteenth toal. He's been around

2498
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:42,640
Speaker 2: what eighteen nineteen years now, So look, it's not a

2499
02:16:42,800 --> 02:16:48,520
Speaker 2: zero that Otani pitches before before the All Star break,

2500
02:16:48,720 --> 02:16:51,880
Speaker 2: but I think it'll probably be slightly after. But let's

2501
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:56,680
Speaker 2: face it. In a recent player poll, right which player

2502
02:16:57,000 --> 02:17:00,360
Speaker 2: did the players most likely want to watch Otani? One

2503
02:17:00,440 --> 02:17:03,800
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five respondents. A Tony got the vast majority,

2504
02:17:04,440 --> 02:17:07,040
Speaker 2: got thirty votes, Bobby Whitt only got fourteen, and in

2505
02:17:07,120 --> 02:17:10,160
Speaker 2: the player poll says, how can you honestly pick someone else?

2506
02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:12,160
Speaker 2: It's almost it's so hard to get him out what

2507
02:17:12,200 --> 02:17:13,800
Speaker 2: he does. I don't know if he'll ever see it again.

2508
02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:16,640
Speaker 2: Show he'll be able to do both doesn't make any sense.

2509
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:19,160
Speaker 2: He's a cheat code. He's the best my player you

2510
02:17:19,240 --> 02:17:21,760
Speaker 2: could ever create. You're watching someone have that kind of

2511
02:17:21,800 --> 02:17:23,760
Speaker 2: success on both sides of the ball. It's so rare.

2512
02:17:24,400 --> 02:17:28,680
Speaker 2: Players are blown. You know, baseball players are baseball fans too.

2513
02:17:29,320 --> 02:17:31,879
Speaker 2: They love the game. You have to to have pursued

2514
02:17:31,920 --> 02:17:35,360
Speaker 2: that for a living, and you have to to do it.

2515
02:17:35,400 --> 02:17:37,160
Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty two days a year, one hundred

2516
02:17:37,160 --> 02:17:39,040
Speaker 2: and sixty two games a year. The bottom line is

2517
02:17:39,280 --> 02:17:43,160
Speaker 2: Otani's not worldly and as soon as the Dodgers getting back,

2518
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:47,879
Speaker 2: that's just going to be incredible. By the way, coming

2519
02:17:47,959 --> 02:17:51,320
Speaker 2: up again of the show, what's interesting is as part

2520
02:17:51,360 --> 02:17:55,840
Speaker 2: of this player pole, they were asked what hitter would

2521
02:17:55,879 --> 02:17:58,680
Speaker 2: you least want to pitch against in Game seven of

2522
02:17:58,720 --> 02:18:03,920
Speaker 2: the World Series, and somehow someway it was not show Hey,

2523
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:10,120
Speaker 2: o Tani. Well, Tani got a lot of oats. You know,

2524
02:18:10,200 --> 02:18:12,560
Speaker 2: he'sa tell he's people. Some people think he's the best

2525
02:18:12,640 --> 02:18:15,200
Speaker 2: enter in baseball. I don't know if a guy who's

2526
02:18:15,480 --> 02:18:18,760
Speaker 2: you know, when the moment is more needed, Otani comes through.

2527
02:18:18,879 --> 02:18:21,280
Speaker 2: But there you have it. We'll reveal that coming up

2528
02:18:21,560 --> 02:18:23,080
Speaker 2: at the end of the show. I'm Bernie Fraddle. We

2529
02:18:23,160 --> 02:18:28,000
Speaker 2: are comedy live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

2530
02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:29,440
Speaker 2: Keep it locked right here. He listened to the Bernie

2531
02:18:29,440 --> 02:18:30,680
Speaker 2: Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2532
02:18:32,520 --> 02:18:35,400
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Speaker 2: All right back on the Bernie Frattle Show. By the way,

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Speaker 2: So I mentioned a second ago that there was anonymous

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Speaker 2: player poll what hitter would you least want to pitch

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Speaker 2: against in Game seven of the World Series? Well before

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Speaker 2: I set this up. So there were only nine players

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Speaker 2: who got votes, but believe it or not, three of

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Speaker 2: them were Dodgers. Joey Otani was one, Mookie Betts was one,

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Speaker 2: and Freddie Freeman was one. Not bad for a team

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Speaker 2: that has designs I'm repeating as World champions. But believe

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Speaker 2: it or not, guess who the pitchers in this responded

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Speaker 2: poll in this anonymous poll said they would least like

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Speaker 2: to pitch against in Game seven of the World Series.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't Bryce Harper, It wasn't Bobby Witt. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: Mookie Betts or Freddy it wasn't even Aaron Judge, and

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Speaker 2: it wasn't shoey Otani. He was actually Juan Sodo. Juan Sodo, Well,

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Speaker 2: he is the highest paid player in baseball. But one

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Speaker 2: NL pitcher said, quote, he doesn't swing in a lot

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Speaker 2: of crap, not a lot of swing and miss in

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02:20:21,480 --> 02:20:23,959
Speaker 2: his game, and he can do damage. Well, that says

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Speaker 2: a lot. When a pitcher can't get you to chase

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Speaker 2: and swing at what he wants you to swing at.

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Speaker 2: That's called plate discipline. And well Sodo does have that.

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Speaker 2: He's patient, he'll take a walk, and when he swings

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Speaker 2: there is not a lot of swings and missus. He's

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Speaker 2: he's actually got the reputation of being very disciplined. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't need anything soft. He scores up the bat, he

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Speaker 2: puts the barrel on it, and in high levelged situations,

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Speaker 2: he's looking for that pitch and pitchers have to make

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Speaker 2: a perfect pitch. You've got to have plate discipline and

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02:20:54,480 --> 02:20:57,840
Speaker 2: power and not swing and miss. That's what meant. That's

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Speaker 2: a picture's nightmare. There are many guys the power to

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02:21:00,600 --> 02:21:02,920
Speaker 2: hit like that, but don't swing and miss a lot.

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02:21:03,680 --> 02:21:06,600
Speaker 2: He buries mistakes. That's why wan Sota was paid what

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Speaker 2: he was paid. He doesn't chase. So for me, I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I've seen a Tany do just too much

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Speaker 2: and he's already won a World Series. I don't think

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Speaker 2: I'd want to face you the one. But Otany would

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Speaker 2: get my vote, but they didn't give me a vote.

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Speaker 2: All right. We covered all on the show, including the

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Speaker 2: sports felled fut Bo l is that time, Chris Profet's.

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Speaker 16: World of Soccer, the Greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the

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Speaker 16: international drama.

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Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the World of.

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Speaker 17: Soccer, Bertie. We have the Club World Cup going on

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Speaker 17: right now. We talked about it a little bit last week.

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Speaker 17: It has since kind of come under the microscope in

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Speaker 17: the soccer community in media one way or another on

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02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:05,040
Speaker 17: how it has stretched the calendar, how it bumps up

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Speaker 17: again against the international stuff that it's on, these denying

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Speaker 17: the rest that usually goes to odd years or for

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Speaker 17: odd years to play with their international teams. I have

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Speaker 17: problems with how inter Miami was just randomly chosen, and

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Speaker 17: how FIFA has a lot of this entire thing together,

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Speaker 17: and how it's trying to stack their deck. I'm also

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Speaker 17: very sympathetic to the view of people like Gabrielle Marcatti

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Speaker 17: who do say stuff like, yeah, this is kind of

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Speaker 17: what we wanted. That, like, we've wanted more than just

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Speaker 17: UEFA teams, you know, hogging the entire spotlight. But I'm

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Speaker 17: going to put that all to the side because Team

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Speaker 17: USA is a disaster. It is a diaper fire right now.

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Speaker 17: Once again, this team, in spite of a new coach,

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Speaker 17: in spite of turning over a new leaf across the

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Speaker 17: entire federation, once again finds itself a hissy fit between

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Speaker 17: all of its power brokers, between parents of players, between

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Speaker 17: old players, and quite honestly everyone else. Right now, in

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Speaker 17: the Mauricio Pochettino era, they have started zero to four.

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Speaker 17: They have not won a single mumbling game between the

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Speaker 17: two friendlies they played so far and the two CONCAFF

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Speaker 17: Nation leagues that they had earlier. On on Sunday, they

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Speaker 17: will play Trinidad and Tobago, and I wish I could

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Speaker 17: say if they lose that one, there will be hell

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Speaker 17: to pay, but I'm not sure who even pays that

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02:23:25,000 --> 02:23:27,039
Speaker 17: hell at this point, and there's a lot of people

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Speaker 17: who could say, well, you know, it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 17: The US is already pre qualified for the World Cup.

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Speaker 17: It's a year away, Okay, sure, yeah, but you don't

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02:23:34,360 --> 02:23:36,280
Speaker 17: have a ton of time to really play together as

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Speaker 17: a team, and you're going to like perform like this.

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02:23:40,360 --> 02:23:43,040
Speaker 17: You're giving up four goals to Switzerland, who is an

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Speaker 17: AWAYFA team, but they're not that great, that kind of

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Speaker 17: awaya team. You take a one goal lead very early

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Speaker 17: against Turkey and then you sit on your haunches and

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Speaker 17: let them batter you around like I'm sorry. You don't

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Speaker 17: get the benefit of the doubt because we've seen this

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Speaker 17: version of Team USA play in the World Cup before

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Speaker 17: and it was embarrassing. This can't just beat Chapter two

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02:24:05,120 --> 02:24:07,800
Speaker 17: is just we'll figure it out. You're not good enough

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02:24:07,879 --> 02:24:10,440
Speaker 17: to just figure it out. You're just not. You're just

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Speaker 17: absolutely not. You can't just say it doesn't matter until

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Speaker 17: twenty twenty six. It's dismissive of the work that goes

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Speaker 17: in and it's dismissive of the problems. And then we

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02:24:18,959 --> 02:24:22,440
Speaker 17: will then hit the World Cup in America and everyone

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02:24:22,480 --> 02:24:25,520
Speaker 17: will put on those what's the meme shocked Pikachu face

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Speaker 17: when this team starts getting drubbed five goals every match,

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Speaker 17: or you see a Pochettino says he can't control when

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Speaker 17: Christian Pulisitch, you know, is there and he can't you know,

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Speaker 17: dictate which games he plays, And that's kind of true.

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02:24:38,160 --> 02:24:40,279
Speaker 17: But at the same time, this is a unique problem

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02:24:40,400 --> 02:24:44,120
Speaker 17: to America in that i've you know, usually we get

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02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:47,080
Speaker 17: people are jumping out of their skins to play for

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02:24:47,160 --> 02:24:51,400
Speaker 17: their country in FIFA Soccer, and Pulisitch isn't here. And

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02:24:51,440 --> 02:24:53,840
Speaker 17: I understand he's played a very long season, and he's

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02:24:53,840 --> 02:24:58,560
Speaker 17: played two seasons of like fifty matches for Milan, But

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02:24:59,200 --> 02:25:01,760
Speaker 17: so I have a lot of guys who are turning

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02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:06,480
Speaker 17: around and and just going and going straight to their

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Speaker 17: countries and some of them going straight back from there

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02:25:09,480 --> 02:25:13,000
Speaker 17: to the Club World Cup here. Like, I understand, it's

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02:25:13,040 --> 02:25:18,280
Speaker 17: a long season, it's exacerbating and it's exhausting, but look

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02:25:18,320 --> 02:25:22,480
Speaker 17: at what you're Christian Fuels such is nicknamed Captain America

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02:25:23,000 --> 02:25:26,640
Speaker 17: by the media and fans, and he's not playing for America.

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02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:30,440
Speaker 17: Your brand's really kind of like, what what are you doing?

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Speaker 17: And here we are back again with dads with the

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Speaker 17: dad of Christian fuel. Shit's weighing in just like we

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02:25:35,640 --> 02:25:38,120
Speaker 17: had drama with Giovanni Reina not long ago.

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Speaker 1: And it's a fight with with the the.

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Speaker 17: The veterans of Team USA, with Landon Donovan, with Clinton Dempsey,

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Speaker 17: with these guys who are rightly in my book, laying

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02:25:49,600 --> 02:25:51,080
Speaker 17: into Team USA.

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Speaker 1: For how they are performing right now. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you something.

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02:25:54,280 --> 02:25:58,480
Speaker 17: Dempsey, Donovan, Tim Howard all played long seasons too, and

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02:25:58,560 --> 02:26:00,560
Speaker 17: they came out there and they scrapped harder than a

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02:26:00,600 --> 02:26:03,920
Speaker 17: lot of these guys have ever done so far. And

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02:26:04,040 --> 02:26:07,040
Speaker 17: you know what, they were more successful so far than

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02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:10,760
Speaker 17: this generation of Team USA. They are allowed to speak

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Speaker 17: their mind on it, and I don't need to hear

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02:26:12,680 --> 02:26:14,880
Speaker 17: from pulist. It's just dad who wants to throw barbs

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02:26:14,920 --> 02:26:17,800
Speaker 17: at Landon Donovan. Donovan's played, you haven't. You're just resting

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02:26:17,840 --> 02:26:18,760
Speaker 17: on what your kids doing.

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Speaker 1: I can get.

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Speaker 17: It's never fun when the old timers are bashing the

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02:26:22,959 --> 02:26:26,360
Speaker 17: team right now. But that's also the culture of international soccer,

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02:26:26,840 --> 02:26:28,840
Speaker 17: and you have to live up to the example they've done.

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02:26:28,920 --> 02:26:32,560
Speaker 17: They've won games in World Cups, and I bring them

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02:26:32,600 --> 02:26:33,840
Speaker 17: up a lot when I talk in the world of

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Speaker 17: soccer about Team USA, because I admire those teams because

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Speaker 17: they might not have been talented or touted the way

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Speaker 17: that this Team USA was, but they had heart, they

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02:26:41,760 --> 02:26:44,119
Speaker 17: had fight, They were never out of it. They never

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02:26:44,280 --> 02:26:47,080
Speaker 17: rolled over like they did. This Team USA goes out,

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02:26:47,160 --> 02:26:49,200
Speaker 17: tries to score in the first twenty minutes and then

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02:26:49,320 --> 02:26:52,480
Speaker 17: just plays dead and it's embarrassing to watch. I don't

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02:26:52,520 --> 02:26:55,240
Speaker 17: care that they're already qualified for the World Cup. Maybe

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02:26:55,280 --> 02:26:57,119
Speaker 17: they shouldn't be. Maybe that would give them a reason

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02:26:57,200 --> 02:26:59,760
Speaker 17: to fight. Maybe this is all academic by twenty twenty six,

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02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:02,320
Speaker 17: but in my gut, it's not. And they have a

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02:27:02,440 --> 02:27:05,400
Speaker 17: lot of soul searching to do before this all comes up.

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02:27:05,440 --> 02:27:07,560
Speaker 17: And I really really do not need to hear from

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02:27:07,600 --> 02:27:10,000
Speaker 17: people about how this doesn't really matter because it's not

2694
02:27:10,160 --> 02:27:10,800
Speaker 17: the World Cup.

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02:27:11,080 --> 02:27:11,640
Speaker 1: It'll matter.

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02:27:12,280 --> 02:27:15,680
Speaker 17: Team USA's makeup of relying on MLS guys and guys

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02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:18,840
Speaker 17: like Christian Kulisich who are struggling to find time to

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02:27:18,959 --> 02:27:23,000
Speaker 17: play for America and struggling to get you know, on

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02:27:23,160 --> 02:27:26,160
Speaker 17: the same page and playing as a team is already

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02:27:26,480 --> 02:27:29,120
Speaker 17: biting the US and the ass. You want to get

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02:27:29,160 --> 02:27:31,360
Speaker 17: that off your back right now. Go out in the

2702
02:27:31,400 --> 02:27:34,120
Speaker 17: CONCACAF Gold Cup, even though it doesn't mean anything. Pick

2703
02:27:34,200 --> 02:27:36,959
Speaker 17: up another trophy for your case and show the world

2704
02:27:37,160 --> 02:27:39,400
Speaker 17: that you've got that dog in you. That'll do it

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02:27:39,480 --> 02:27:41,080
Speaker 17: for us on the World of Soccer, Bernie, We'll see

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02:27:41,080 --> 02:27:44,879
Speaker 17: you next time, so believe.

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Speaker 13: It or not.

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02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:47,440
Speaker 2: Well, the future always says a way of arriving ahead

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02:27:47,480 --> 02:27:51,400
Speaker 2: of schedule. We are three hundred and what sixty days,

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02:27:51,680 --> 02:27:56,160
Speaker 2: three six zero from World Cup twenty twenty six, which

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Speaker 2: would be the biggest World Cup ever. It'll be played

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02:27:58,520 --> 02:27:59,920
Speaker 2: a lot of the games right here in the Unite.

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02:28:00,080 --> 02:28:03,880
Speaker 2: It's also Mexico and Canada. The US men's team has qualified.

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Speaker 2: They will take the field at Sofi Stadium in Englewood

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02:28:08,680 --> 02:28:13,840
Speaker 2: for a first group stage game. And I don't know,

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02:28:15,080 --> 02:28:18,600
Speaker 2: there's no expectations for this team. By the way, you

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02:28:18,640 --> 02:28:20,880
Speaker 2: know where a host country. That's why they're in. But

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02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:24,960
Speaker 2: they're actually allowing forty eight teams to participate from the

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02:28:25,080 --> 02:28:27,440
Speaker 2: previous thirty two to be a total of one hundred

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02:28:27,440 --> 02:28:32,200
Speaker 2: and four games played over between June eleventh and July nineteenth.

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02:28:33,160 --> 02:28:38,000
Speaker 2: So our world, our World of Soccer feature basically started

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02:28:40,240 --> 02:28:44,280
Speaker 2: and after in the twenty twenty one World Cup that

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02:28:44,440 --> 02:28:46,840
Speaker 2: was played in the fall, started to actually twenty twenty two.

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02:28:46,879 --> 02:28:50,920
Speaker 2: Excuse me, got delaid because of COVID, and the first

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02:28:51,000 --> 02:28:55,000
Speaker 2: game was the pipe button the build up against England

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02:28:55,080 --> 02:28:59,640
Speaker 2: on Friday after Thanksgiving and it was a major letdown.

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02:28:59,760 --> 02:29:04,920
Speaker 2: And unfortunately this continues to be underwhelming. So the frustration

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02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:07,640
Speaker 2: in his voice is for good reason. You just wonder,

2729
02:29:07,680 --> 02:29:11,600
Speaker 2: will there'll ever be a day? I don't I don't know,

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02:29:12,640 --> 02:29:14,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, but we'll be watching. It'll be a

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02:29:14,879 --> 02:29:16,400
Speaker 2: hell of an event right here in the United States.

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02:29:16,440 --> 02:29:20,039
Speaker 2: World Cup is a big, big, big, big damn deal.

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02:29:21,280 --> 02:29:25,800
Speaker 2: Coming up, we wrap up the show. What happens to

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02:29:25,920 --> 02:29:29,960
Speaker 2: the WNBA when Caitlin Clark doesn't play? And then what

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02:29:30,120 --> 02:29:34,600
Speaker 2: happens when she returns to the floor, Well, what the hell?

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02:29:34,640 --> 02:29:38,240
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that coming up. I'm Bernie Frattle. We

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02:29:38,320 --> 02:29:40,560
Speaker 2: are coming to line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports

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02:29:40,640 --> 02:29:43,200
Speaker 2: Radio Studios. Don't go away or listening to the Bernie

2739
02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:46,280
Speaker 2: Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're wrapping

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02:29:46,280 --> 02:29:48,680
Speaker 2: it up on the Bernie Frattle Show, come to you

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02:29:48,760 --> 02:29:53,000
Speaker 2: live from the Las Vegas Studios. Been with you since

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02:29:53,040 --> 02:29:56,480
Speaker 2: eleven pm Pacific time on Saturday night. We'll be back

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02:29:56,520 --> 02:30:00,720
Speaker 2: in this chair next Saturday night, June twenty first, at

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Speaker 2: eleven pm. Pacific time on Saturday. For any further one

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Speaker 2: of the thing. My broadcast team, Mark and Brianna turning,

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Speaker 2: all the Donalds keeping a slude together, managing on the

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Speaker 2: calls at time clock. Appreciate all the efforts tonight as always.

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Speaker 2: I'll get to the Caitlin Clark thing in a second.

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Speaker 2: The next, by the way, are going to actually be

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Speaker 2: able to interview to legitimate candidates Former Grizzlies coach Taylor

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Speaker 2: Jenkins and former Sacramento King's coach Mike Brown decent quality guys.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know how enthusiastic the next feel about that.

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Speaker 2: They just got done going through the phone book A

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Speaker 2: through Ze I believe had really serious interest in Jason Kidd,

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Speaker 2: but that got Ky boshed as well as Houston's email

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Speaker 2: A Doka, Minnesota's Chris Finch, Atlantas Quinn Snyder, Chicago's Billy Donovan.

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Speaker 2: Why would you only call teams that have had I mean,

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02:30:56,240 --> 02:30:59,320
Speaker 2: Chicago might be on the uptick Atlanta. You saw where

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Speaker 2: Minnesota is the knocking on the door. He used to

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Speaker 2: improve tremendously with Imyodoka, who did pretty well in Boston.

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Speaker 2: Before you know, some situations hit the fan and then

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Speaker 2: Jason Kidd in Dallas. What the hell? What's the thinking?

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Speaker 2: You only reach out to teams that have a coach

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Speaker 2: that's currently employed and they're doing pretty well. Oh, I

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Speaker 2: didn't even mention they they you know, thought about Jay Wright.

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Speaker 2: I knew he wasn't interested. And Mike Malone, I think

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Speaker 2: would just be in another Tom Thibodeau.

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Speaker 6: And so it did.

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Speaker 2: You know, all right, let's see what happens. It's really

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Speaker 2: good for basketball, and the Knicks are good and they

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Speaker 2: were and I don't know if that's going to continue.

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Speaker 2: All right, So what happens when Kaitlyn Clark doesn't play well?

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Speaker 2: The NBA ratings dropped like an anvila and a bugs

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Speaker 2: Bunny cartoon. Caitlyn Clark was out starting May twenty fourth,

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Speaker 2: and before Saturday, the nationally teles games were down fifty

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Speaker 2: five percent in viewership per USA Today. The Fevers. Now

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Speaker 2: that's all nationally televised games. The fevers. Nationally televised games

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Speaker 2: were down fifty three percent without Clark. They were getting

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Speaker 2: about eight hundred thousand viewers a game with Clark about

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Speaker 2: a million eight and Clark missed five games for the fever.

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Speaker 2: She'd previously played at one hundred and eighty three straight

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Speaker 2: regular season and postseason games across four years of IOWA

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Speaker 2: and all forty regular season games in two playoff games

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Speaker 2: last year with the fever, she alled take a team

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Speaker 2: that had made the playoffs after the playoffs. But in

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Speaker 2: four games this year before injury, she was drawing fans

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Speaker 2: and nineteen points a game, nine assists, six rebounds, and

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Speaker 2: they were two and three without Clark the fever And

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Speaker 2: I'll get to what they did Saturday against the New

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Speaker 2: York Liberty, but the reality of it is the NBA. Oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, there were actually two NBA TV games

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Speaker 2: that were televised. Clark and drew three hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: thousand viewers. That's down about forty five percent from the

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Speaker 2: Fevered Dream game that was played on NBA TV May

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Speaker 2: twentieth that had almost six hundred thousand viewers. Sunday's game

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Speaker 2: against the Sky last week was down about eight hundred

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Speaker 2: thousand viewers. That was supposed to be the another rematch

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Speaker 2: between Angel Rees and Caitlin Clark on top of their

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Speaker 2: opening night of the year. So what happened. Clark returns

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Speaker 2: to the floor against the nine to zero undefeated New

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Speaker 2: York Liberty, and she proceeds to make history. Caitlin Clark. Now,

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Speaker 2: it was a home game at Gamebridge Arena in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: in the same place where the NBA game is played

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Speaker 2: Friday night. And you know, one of the things Caitlin

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Speaker 2: Clark does is elevate everybody around her. There's no about it.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, she gets back on the floor

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Speaker 2: after missing twenty two days. She cracks the one hundred

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Speaker 2: point mark for the first time this season. Not not

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Speaker 2: she that Indiana fever? Did you know?

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Speaker 11: This was?

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Speaker 2: You know, a baffel return all right? Thirty two points,

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Speaker 2: seven main, three pointers, eight rebounds, nine assists. They beat

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Speaker 2: the undefeated, defending champion New York Liberty by fourteen one

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Speaker 2: two to eighty eight. And there was a sequence where

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Speaker 2: in the first quarter Clark not only had three straight

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Speaker 2: three pointers, she did it in thirty nine seconds, nine

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Speaker 2: points in thirty nine seconds, continuing to turn heads. But

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Speaker 2: and I wonder is Gino Oriema at all ever issued

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Speaker 2: any kind of retraction for what he said last year,

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Speaker 2: because Clark did it again. Her performance Saturday not only

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Speaker 2: was one for the ages, one for the record books,

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Speaker 2: but it elevated her too, a you know, in a conversation,

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Speaker 2: let's put it this way, to a Hall of famer

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Speaker 2: as Caitlyn Clark passed this person now with the most

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Speaker 2: thirty five to five games, that's thirty points, five assists,

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Speaker 2: five rebounds, and the player's first two seasons she always

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Speaker 2: had She's already had three. She passed Candace Parker, who's

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Speaker 2: a two time MVP, seven time All Star, one of

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Speaker 2: the most decorated athletes in WNBA history. She recorded two

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Speaker 2: games with thirty points five rebounds of five was just

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Speaker 2: during her first two seasons with the LA Sparks. That

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Speaker 2: was sixteen years ago. Caitlyn Clark does it now. What

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Speaker 2: in her fifth game of the twenty twenty five season,

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Speaker 2: in her fifth game in her second season and in

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Speaker 2: two full seasons cannas Parker thirty points, five assists, five

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Speaker 2: rebounds twice. Kaitlin Clark's done it twice now and she

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Speaker 2: do it again before the season's out. Moreover, I'm wondering now,

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Speaker 2: if Indiana, the Indiana Fever are in fact a championship caliber,

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Speaker 2: will they make a run with this another five hundred?

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Speaker 2: With the win, they sit in third the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 2: But now they have Clark and another player they were

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Speaker 2: anticipating to get back as well. Can't leave that out. Cunningham,

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Speaker 2: her first name escapes me. I'll think of it in

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Speaker 2: a second, but the bottom line is it was kind

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Speaker 2: of a big day in Indiana and Clark wasted no time, right,

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Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham is her name, the teammate of Caitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 2: So she comes back thirty two points. Indiana's back in

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Speaker 2: the mix.

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Speaker 7: And.

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Speaker 2: It was just it's to the point now where the

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Speaker 2: Fever coach Stephanie White told ESPN after the game, don't

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Speaker 2: we just expect this kind of game from Caitlin Clark?

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Speaker 2: And I'll never forget how people bashed the first five

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Speaker 2: games her WNBA career. She never should have been the

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Speaker 2: first overall pick all those things. You know, vision's history. Now,

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Speaker 2: hopefully the quad strain is healed, because look, the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Fever nater and I mean it, the WNBA needser This

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Speaker 2: is a league that you know, we talked about it earlier.

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Speaker 2: They have been around twenty five years, twenty six years.

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Speaker 2: They've never made any money. I do think the caliber

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Speaker 2: of play is good and they play an interesting pure

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Speaker 2: form of the game. But again, I think they really,

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Speaker 2: they really, they really suffer from what I call the

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Speaker 2: Canadian Football League syndrome. It's a theory I came up

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Speaker 2: with years ago, and that is, you can watch a

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Speaker 2: Canadian Football League game being played, she really can't tell

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Speaker 2: me who the hell's playing. I mean, well, okay, the

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Speaker 2: rough Riders are playing the rough Riders, and the next

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Speaker 2: week they're playing the rough Riders, right and not dogging them.

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Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. You can't name who

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Speaker 2: the players are. We don't know any rivalries. There is

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Speaker 2: no Pittsburgh versus Baltimore. There is no Green Bay versus Chicago, right,

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Speaker 2: you get the picture. There's no Lions, Lions, Vikings, Bears,

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Speaker 2: all that you know, right on down the line. And

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Speaker 2: you don't know who the individual players are except for

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Speaker 2: a very few so until that gets fixed. But in

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Speaker 2: the meantime, you have Caitlin Clark. Now next week, by

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Speaker 2: the way, a couple of things, Cam Newton and Robert

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Speaker 2: Griffin headline the College Football Hall of Fame class. I

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Speaker 2: talk about some of that, but well, we might be

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Speaker 2: heading into a game seven NBA Finals, among many other things.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna do it for the Bernie Frattle Show. See

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Speaker 2: you next week. Meantime, keep it locked up next to

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Speaker 2: the great Andy Furman on Fox Sports Radio.