WEBVTT - Mother Bleep 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:12.840 I'm the biepock mang Gender. Welcome to Like a Virgin 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.040 the show. Will we give Yesterday's pop culture, Today's takes. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.919 My name's Rose. Damn you let me swallow my Hall's 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:24.320 lozenge real quick and let my co host introduce themselves. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:29.800 Oh it's Rand Torondo. Um. Rose and I are reporting 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.640 to you live from our Um. We're merging from the sickness, 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.360 the sickness that sweeps the gay cough that sweeps our 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.280 our community. And every time to see the gay cough, 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:42.960 because I know straight people who have colds now too, 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.880 We're not We're not doing that. It's not it's not 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.800 specific to gay people. I'm also really hopeful that the 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.240 gay cough did like rise and then go extinct in 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:58.240 the summer of twenty twenty, which was truly nightmarish when 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.000 everybody caught that. Do you remember. Yeah, I also fully 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.200 caught this cold that I'm coming off of from my 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:09.160 straight relatives. So there's nothing gay about it. Could not 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.160 be could not be more, um more from the head 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.080 of aero patriarchy. Um, I'm coming off of having a 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.039 horrible cold, which honestly was most upsetting to me, not 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.600 only because I was sick, which I hate being sick. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.240 But also I had so many cute plans this weekend. 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.280 I was supposed to go see Titanic and three D 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.800 on the big screen. Devastated now it's out of theaters. Um. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.800 Howd a friend's birthday dinner to go to? And then 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.399 on Sunday, my friend was taking me to the ballet 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:45.240 and I had to miss it. No, what would you know? 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:50.960 What ballet? Was it? Sleeping Beauty at Lincoln. I'm Chakowski 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:52.560 is my face. It's the only thing I'll show up 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.000 to a ballet for. I'm devastated. I had had a 0:01:55.080 --> 0:02:01.240 whole outfit planned. I was me fit, pick, let's go 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.760 to the Valet Rose. I think I still want to go. 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.920 I want to get tickets and go. Um even though, 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.080 but you know, this was free, so I was very 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:15.639 much looking forward to that. We love free. Oh I'm 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.000 still flemy. And then of course yesterday was the day 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.600 I was finally feeling better, and I had therapy this morning, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:23.880 and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:27.120 to therapy. I'm gonna like get dressed up and wear 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:29.560 cute outfit and put makeup on and like be alive 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.399 for the first time in a week. And I woke 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.840 up this morning in like horrific neck pain because I 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.560 slept weird, and so I had to do therapy remotely. 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:41.120 So it's like I just can't win. My body is 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:47.000 falling apart. Oh no, oh god. Honestly, I'm like same 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.799 but different Mike. Mike hold is not as intense. It's 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.240 been like a loose cough this whole weekend that I 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.960 have tried to party my way through bad idea. I 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:58.280 did get COVID tested at the very least um, but 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:01.840 now last night I just like found myself getting sick. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.720 And do you know what I have been doing with 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:10.120 my downtime over the last I guess, like I would say, 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.960 six five or six days now, I have a feeling 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:19.840 it involves reclining and watching a television show. It involves 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:24.959 rewatching Ugly Betty, which I hit play on season one, 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.359 episode one when I was in New York last weekend 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:32.919 and rose I have consumed now almost a complete three 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.920 seasons of Ugly Betty about to encroach on the fourth. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:41.360 I am honestly I feel insane, Like no, what should 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.000 you should have feel insane? Because I it tis the 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:50.040 season to rewatch familiar TV. I'm neck deep in a 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:56.440 Buffy the Vampire Slayer rewatch and I started two and 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:01.480 a half weeks ago, perhaps who am now currently? I 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.360 just started season five and okay those are these are 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:11.040 twenty episode you know, forty five minute long. And I 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.480 mean to be fair, like I was sick this weekend. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.360 I did not leave, as I said, I didn't leave 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.760 my apartment for days. I watched, um, you know, like 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.440 a season and a half over the course of three 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:27.600 days or less. Um. So I really have that. It's 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:34.159 so much And I haven't even been doing what I 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.280 used to do the last time I rewatched Buffy, which 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:42.679 was skip the episodes that I don't care for umiliar 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:47.440 with it. I really have been watching everything. Wow, Okay, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.600 I honestly similarly, I was like, let's do it in 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.720 sequence all the way through. When was the last time 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.880 I did it? And honestly, this is like so fitting 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.719 because I ugly Betty is, as I've said on before, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.919 like one of the most formative shows on the planet, 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.120 if not the most formative show of my life. And 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.520 I feel like Buffy is the most formative show of 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:11.000 your life. Um yeah, I like it's like such a 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.840 reward for Ugly Betty specifically, it's like such a rewarding 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.320 rewatch and like we'll do a full episode on it, 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.160 so like I won't get into it, but like it 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:24.200 is so amazing. It's such an amazing show, and it's 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:28.320 so deliciously problematic and exactly the time frame that it 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.480 came out. It's like a period piece. And also it's 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:35.400 a fantasy, like it is in a fantasy. It's it's 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.840 a yeah, it's a fantasy where in trans women look 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.880 like Rebecca Romaine. There are some trans women who look 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.080 like Rebecca Romaine, I know, I mean where they just 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.560 get to like emerge on the scene. It's like it's 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.120 a fantasy where trans women are cis women. Yes, yes, 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:58.400 that's what I but everyone calls them tranny and cheta. Yes, 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.800 we will be doing a Wee Betty episode. Very we 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.760 should do another Buffy app as well. Um yeah, I 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:09.200 mean I do think we covered it pretty you know, Um, 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.760 we we covered it pretty well. And we also did 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:18.679 our recent Sarah Michelle Geller sort of cruel intention but well, 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.520 never say never. But I have really been enjoying rewatching 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:27.320 it because I'm you know, over the year I haven't 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.279 done a proper all the way through Buffy rewatching probably 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:34.320 ten years UM. But I there are certain episodes that 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:39.400 I revisit, like the holiday episodes, like I always watched 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:43.320 the Thanksgiving episode of Thanksgiving, the Halloween episodes at Halloween, 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.640 the Christmas episode at Christmas UM, and then there are 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:49.200 a few other episodes that I've gone back and revisited 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.520 throughout the years. But this is the first time in 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.680 over a decade that I have truly gone through and 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.480 watched every episode in sequence, even the ones I don't 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:05.000 really care for. And it's interesting how I'm reacting to 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:10.960 it and like favoring plotlines and characters that I didn't 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.960 like as much the last go around, and like seeing 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.360 what it's like to interact with the show at the 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.600 place where I'm in my life now, and like how 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:26.280 it's different. You know, art media is ever changing, even 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:31.400 though it is you know, static. We we evolve and 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.760 the shows and pieces of art we love, I guess 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.640 evolve with us. Yeah, I mean, I when I'm watching 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:43.440 Ugly Betty for the first time post New York Magazine 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:48.120 media career, some of these plotlines, Girl, my jaw is 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.560 dropping because this show that was formative to me as 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:56.960 a teenager prophesied so many things that literally happened in 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.600 my life where I was Betty like, it's correct, crazy, 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.320 But wait, I want to know. When you were watching 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:06.520 Buffy you said some things you're watching, and now retroactively 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.680 you're like, I'm evaluating this different as an adult. Can 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:13.840 you give an example? Okay, So I was a diehard 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.920 Buffy Angel shipper the first time I watched Buffy, like 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.600 Buffy Angel fan fiction with some of the first fan 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:26.920 fiction I ever read, and watching it back again, I'm 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.360 now looking at it through the lens of like, why 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:34.240 is this old ass man hooking up with this teenage girl? 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:40.560 And like, obviously it's still emotional and powerful, but it's 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.320 just not doing it for me in the way that 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.680 it used to. And I'm at the point in season 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:48.240 five now when Spike is realizing that he is in 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.400 love with Buffy or at least attracted to her. And 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.400 I was never into the Spike and Buffy pairing quite 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:57.840 so much because I believed that she belonged with Angel. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:02.640 And now that I'm watching it slowly unfold or like 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.679 organically and not looking at it like as something I've 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:10.360 already experienced. I like get it more and I'm kind 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.160 of like, wait, I'm kind of excited for them to 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.840 eventually become an item. Now are you saying here and 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.840 now on this podcast that you are team Spike, No, 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:26.520 because what I actually am is team Faith. Faith who 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.720 is the Slayer who went evil? There is so much 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:37.480 subtext there of her and Buffy having a vibey and 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:43.439 I remember, you know, I love that. I would love 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.480 to watch it one day. I I famously still have 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:47.960 not watched it all the way through, but I know 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.840 I will. It's it's it's honestly, the fact that I 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:54.120 got around to a Golden Girls watch is like proof 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.680 of concept enough that like I can do a Buffy watch, yes, 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.720 even though I mean the episodes are longer, I'm not. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:09.560 It's it's definitely a bigger commitment. And Golden Girls you 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.160 can kind of like be on your phone during Buddy 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.000 It's a little harder to do that. But I have 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:20.200 to say, like, you know, fuck Jos Sweden and all, 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.600 but so much of the humor and the writing really 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:28.000 holds up. And I know that's not um solely because 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:35.480 of him, but you know, it's whatever death of the author. Um, yeah, please, 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.480 we can say the same thing about Ugly Betty, like 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.240 a show that is like astoundingly ahead of its time 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:45.959 and also like horribly horribly like something horrible to watch now. Yes, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.280 you know, um, dear Virgins, you might you might have 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.880 cottoned on to the fact that we are taking our 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.880 taking our damn time today with little, our little chit 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.080 chat catchup moment. And that's because we are not going 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:05.040 to have a main discussion topic today. We didn't do 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:10.520 news last week, so we're going all in on, you know, 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:16.079 catching up. What's the goths, what's going on? So this 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.280 is just going to be like a true hangout key 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:23.280 key episode girls girling. This is a girls girling episode, 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:28.240 and we know that you do love those, so yeah, 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.240 So what's going on in your life? Girl? I know 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:35.280 you're about to make finally the big move. As of 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.600 time of record, I only have a week left in 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:42.480 Los Angeles. Feel um insane. I have not packed a 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.520 single I know. I'm looking behind you what you're a partner, 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:48.240 and I'm like, um, all of your stuff the walls. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.640 I'm one of those girls that I don't like to 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.160 draw out, like tasks that I don't want to do Like, 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:55.960 I'm a girl that wants to do it all in 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:01.160 a consolidated time period about thirty six hours thirty six 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.960 to seventy two hours before. Oh that sounds super fun. Yeah, 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.880 I mean that's that's my stamina preference. I think it's 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:10.920 a better use of my time. But it is also 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.920 stressful sometimes. But you know, all things considered, I am 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.400 not very well rested. I was like up all last 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:22.400 night coughing and also thinking about a very bizarre interaction. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:26.000 I had just a very bizarre experience I had yesterday. 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.120 That's like really fresh on my mind. Okay, I want 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.920 you to tell me, but first I do want you 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:31.880 to give you the chance to plug the fact that 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:36.440 you are casting off some of your possessions this weekend. 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:41.439 Oh my god, wait, I'm so glad that you said that. Okay, 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.559 dear Virgins, I am having an estate sale and a 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:49.880 goodbye soiree that almost everything must go okay in my apartment. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.840 No Weirdosum, you can't get the address unless you know 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.280 you RSP. That information should be available on my Instagram 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.480 profile by the time this episode comes out. Thank you 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.520 for that, Rose, because I need cash. Not gonna lie 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:05.320 I'll get your transparent with all of you, and I 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.040 have nice things that you can come and pick up. 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:28.520 And also all patrons get a mimosa come on by. Okay, So, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.480 so tell me about this weird interruption that you had 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:37.640 over the weekend. I dyed now, Okay, So I it's 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.360 crazy because I actually haven't talked to you that much 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:46.640 about this yet. But I enrolled in a recreational acting 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.959 class or what. We have discussed it a bit, but 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.360 not not at length. Yes, but I will say I 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.320 signed up to what I thought would be a recreational 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.959 acting class, is how I should say it. And honest, 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:01.400 this is going to be a little bit of like 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:07.600 a fran voicemail length story if you're willing to hear it. 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.720 But like I, I'm directing some of this year. I'm 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:14.760 trying to learn about acting because of that. Have you 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.800 ever taken acting class? Roos girl, I went to acting 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:23.000 school in college. I always forget about our ghost lives, 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:29.200 right of course. Okay, So acting's insane, yes, Like acting 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:33.080 is an insane thing to do with your life. And 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.920 I didn't realize that I couldn't just like come in 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.400 and be like, hey, I just want to learn about this. Like, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.320 I'm like a respectful student that genuinely just wants to 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.080 learn about acting. I'm not trying to be an actor, 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.080 you know what. I see. The problem there is that 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.720 you're in Los Angeles, where, yeah, everyone is trying to 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.520 be an actor or at least get cast on a 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:57.600 reality dating show. Yes, okay, wait, you are hitting the 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:02.000 nail on the head about because Okay, so I signed 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.800 up for literally eight classes. I was like, let me 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.160 dip and dip out right before I leave to New York, 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:09.280 and if I like it, I can keep doing it 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:13.600 in New York whatever. Day one hour one of this class. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:18.920 It is a three hour class. I hate this class. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:23.800 Like the first hour. I hate this class. In my mind, 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:28.000 I'm hating the teacher. She is giving like really like 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:34.600 violent erratic energy, like really blunt, really kurt, like doesn't 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.920 say things that are like mighty to people, like just 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.680 speaks to everyone in a way that I'm just like, 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.440 I don't love this, like white woman, Yeah that's an 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:46.240 acting teacher. Yeah, that's an acting teacher exactly. And that 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.080 was kind of so our one. I was kind of 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.720 just like realizing things in real time about like what 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.360 acting is a world that I very naively knew nothing 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:58.360 about going into it. I don't have anything in common 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.520 with anyone in this class. It is a student body 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:05.320 like I can only really describe as like twenty or so, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.800 like cis gender, nano influencers, and I feel like that 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:14.040 sounds right, yeah, yeah yeah, And I feel like I like, 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:15.760 I'm like, this class is going to be a colossal 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.600 waste of my time. Hour two of my first class, 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.600 I was like, wait, actually, like this teacher is like 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:24.320 really hard on them, and she's pushing them, and like 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.920 she's actually really smart, and like I'm kind of listening 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.680 to what she's saying, and I'm like the classes, I 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.000 should also say, the classes never really explain or described. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.880 There's no introductions, Like it's not a class where like 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:36.800 you meet each other, you do like fun little games 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.440 and exercise ice breaker. Yeah, there's no fucking icebriggers. Yeah no, 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.840 that's not Yes, it's a cheap, cheap class and you 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.520 only get to participate in like five minutes per class whatever. 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:53.440 It's kind of crazy. Um. And so by hour three 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.320 of my first class, I'm just like, actually, this teacher 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.840 is iconic, and I think that I love you Yes, 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.240 I love her because she's a bitch, and I think 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.440 that I actually really even if I don't really agree 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.280 with how she's kind of treating the students. I fucked 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.440 with her, and I only need to be in eight classes, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.440 so I'm just gonna be like invisible. You think it's fierce. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:19.439 She's mother, Yes, she's kind of giving mother's yeah's mother, Okay, okay, okay. 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.600 So I'm going to say something else that's probably really 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:25.840 stupid to actors. So this class teaches Meisner the Meisner method, Right, 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.439 are you familiar at all? Somewhat? You might need to 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.840 refresh my memory on the specifics of it. To be honest, 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:33.639 if I were to try to get into it, it 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.240 would be so difficult to describe. It's like so annoying 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:37.919 and weird to describe. But all you need to know 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.159 is that it's a methodology of acting that's taught in 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.280 a lot of to reenacting schools. There are a few 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.719 different methods, and it's like next to like Stanislavski and 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:48.520 like method acting and like, yeah, Stanislavsky was more what 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:52.159 I fucked with when I was an actress. Wait, really 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.240 you were? You learned much like Gaga the Stanislavsky method. Yes, 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:03.720 my college acting professor was a devotee of Staroslavsky Waite. 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.520 I feel honestly ashamed that I actually don't know that 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:11.440 much about your era as an actress. That's that's on purpose, babe, 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.960 that is my designs. Like you also haven't seen a 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.520 lot of photos of me pre transition, you know, like 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:22.400 obviously this is all intentional. I've seen literally one that 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:26.320 you can centrally showed to me on this podcast. Um 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.520 one photo. Um okay, okay, okay, back to back to 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.199 let me. I'm trying to stay on track on the 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:35.560 friend voicemail on the friend voicemail here. Um. So this 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:40.080 class teaches Meisner from a truly cold outside perspective, someone 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.359 who knows nothing about acting or about Meisner. I have 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:46.120 to say, the vibe is immediately giving cult like immediately 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:50.439 like she is berating these kids, kids she doesn't know 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.640 at all. By the way, like a lot of these 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.639 students have, like me, have been in three or four classes. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:57.960 Others have been there for like you know, a month 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.600 or two. Like there there are tears at which the 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.119 students have been in the class because it's on a 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.440 rolling basis. But she is like speaking to these kids 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:10.680 like they're her children and not necessarily yes, because she's 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.880 weather and it's and it's and honestly, it's just it's 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.439 it's crazy. So, uh, we have to do this exercising 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.920 class that's again really difficult to describe, so I'm not 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.760 going to get into it, but like the baseline is, 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.520 there is an extremely difficult kind of like technique to 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.960 learn that requires like a lot of mental brainwork and 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.400 it's almost like a little bit of a riddle UM. 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:35.040 And you do this like repetition exercise that is it's hard, 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.040 it's it's hard to do as a beginner. This is 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.800 a beginner level class and we're all learning UM, and 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:45.480 we have to perform these exercises, performing the kind of 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:49.920 like this like very specific rule UM of the Meisner 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:54.119 School of acting, and these little sketches in groups of 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.280 two or three at a time, like one after another. 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:59.760 So I've been at this in this point three or 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.800 four classes. I really have not experienced a ton. I 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:06.119 don't know any of my fellow students really, like like 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:08.879 we're all a lot of us are in this cold. 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:16.960 Yesterday I was an acting class and this woman was 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:23.720 on a death rampage like she was like, leave no prisoners, 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:28.560 scorched Earth, I want to kill everyone, and I'm in 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.119 today is the day that you all die? Like it 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:37.680 was so I'm not gonna lie. Riveting. It was riveting. 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.480 And and victim number one, so like there a few 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.359 exercises happened. They were going, Okay, Victim number one. A 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:48.320 girl gets into this exercise. She is not doing amazing 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.920 basically because she's not really following this like Meisner rule 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.240 that is drilled into us. At this point, she's repeating 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:57.040 this Meisner rule over and over to us. And this 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.639 girl is kind of just like that, you have to 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.400 repeat what the other person is saying to you. It's 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:06.760 it's it's kind of it's it's again, it's it's. So 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.159 it's hard to describe without me going into like no, 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:13.360 no it because yeah, like it's like about scene it's 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.920 like about scene work and like that. You're like listening 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.680 before you speak, but you're not but you're not really 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:21.080 supposed to. Yeah, you're listening and you're not really supposed 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.520 to improvise, right, you're not supposed to be conversational. You're 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.040 not asking questions, You're just really trying to repeat things 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.640 at each other until you catch an emotional pinch point. 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:34.160 It's so I sound I see I'm participating in the cult. Okay, 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.840 So this girl finishes the exercise, she kind of that 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:39.520 kind of just oh my god, I just said her name. 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:45.000 Will you believe that? Okay? Okay, So I just said 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.800 the teacher's name, and I have to say that this 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:51.760 woman has a very satisfying white woman. No, when you 0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:54.600 said it, I was like, yep, that's her name. Um, 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:56.680 she kind of cuts you off. She decides when you're done. 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:58.479 The teacher says what says when you're done? And she 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.720 turns to the class and she goes, so, what was 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:10.720 wrong with this iconic? And she trains the kids to 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:14.840 to humiliate the students on stage in real time by 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.600 repeating the thing that everybody knows that this person on 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:21.280 stage doesn't know. Isn't that isn't that crazy? And she goes, 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.880 so this isn't working because she's not repeating blah blah 0:22:24.880 --> 0:22:28.080 blah and all these ds like she's culturing and conditioning 0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:33.080 the class to Brady. Yeah, acting is any kind of 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:37.840 acting school or theater school is psychological warfare? Yes, and 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:40.760 through the whole time this whole class, and honestly a 0:22:40.800 --> 0:22:44.879 little bit in previous classes. She's really like specific about 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.240 pitting the kids against each other. She goes, she'll say, actually, 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:52.320 like yes exactly, so I'll get into that. But she 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.000 she goes, did you She turns to the girl and 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:55.359 she goes, did you rehearse? And she goes, no, I 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:57.280 haven't rehearsed. And she's like really big about rehearsal, and 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.240 she goes, you guys need to rehearse. You guys need 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.520 to rehearse or you're gonna show up and you're gonna suck. 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:04.919 You're gonna show up and you're gonna suck. And she 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:06.639 turns to the girl and she goes, she was like, 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:08.040 how do you think you did today? And she was 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:10.760 like the girl was like literally just trying to advocate 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:13.560 for herself, Like she's not being disrespectful, she's just kind 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:15.639 of like, you know, at our time, I think I 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:20.280 did okay, Like she's genuinely trying to analyze herself and goes, Okay, 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:28.080 well you sucked. I love her. She's victim number two 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:33.280 steps up here, and again not the same mistake, but 0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:38.960 like a truly a truly honest mistake. And infraction on 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:42.320 like not understanding what the Meisner method is. And this 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:44.800 is a girl who is at the same experience level 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.520 as me, So the previous girl she's been in like 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.560 another month or class. This girl, like like me, has 0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:55.040 only met Kathleen three times. I just said her name again. 0:23:55.520 --> 0:24:00.600 This girl, much like mother, much like Brenda, has only 0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:05.840 we've we've only met her. Oh wait, sorry, So this 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:11.199 girl has literally only met Kathleen like three or four times. Um, 0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:15.119 I can't believe. I just said. I can't believe. I'm 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:21.160 so sleep deprived. So this girl literally has only met 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.520 my teacher, has only met mother three or four times. 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:28.440 She doesn't do the exercise right. She has watched other 0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:32.320 students get chewed out. And she's doing this thing that 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:35.000 mister people hate, which is acting. She always says, like, 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:36.639 no acting up there. I don't want to see you 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.199 putting on a character. And she kind of puts on 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:39.879