WEBVTT - TBG University - Spring Break 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:10.360 Hey, y'all, thanks so much for joining me for another 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.600 episode of Therapy for Black Girl's University. We'll get right 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:24.440 to our conversation after a word from our sponsors. In 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.880 a special spring Break edition of Therapy for Black Girl's University, 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:30.880 I sat down with our advisory council for a lively 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.080 and insightful group chat about what spring break really looks 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:38.120 like at different stages of the college journey. Jaya, a sophomore, 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.080 shared her excitement and curiosity as she's still figuring out 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:45.080 what spring break means for her. Fatima, a senior, reflected 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.199 on navigating the pressure to make the most of her 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.919 last college spring break while staying grounded in what she 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:54.680 truly wants. And MICHAELA, a recent graduate, offered wisdom about 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:58.560 transitioning out of the college bubble and redefining rest fund 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:03.040 and boundaries in adulthood. Together, we chatted about the culture 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:08.399 around black spring break, Houston, the joy community, and misconceptions 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.880 how to approach spring break safely, with intention and authenticity. 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.559 We also talked about the financial realities of spring break, 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.880 how to resist the pressure to keep up with social 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.680 media aesthetics, and how to use this time off as 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.240 a meaningful mental health recent If something resonates with you 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.399 while enjoying our conversation, please share with us on social 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:32.520 media using the hashtag TVG in Session. Here's our conversation. 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.400 I am very excited to be back with our TVGU 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.399 Council today. Ladies, would you please start us off by 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.720 introducing yourselves again and letting us know what school you're representing. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.440 We'll start with you. Fatima, Hi, everyon. 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:49.760 My name is Fatima. 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.560 I'm a senior at Toft University and I study political science. 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.760 Jaya Hi, everyone, my name is Jyron named Bacon, and 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.120 I am a sophomore at the unsinkable Albany State University. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:03.600 And Michaelah. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.320 My name is MICHAELA and I'm a graduate of Dillard University. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.560 So we're very excited. The weather is getting better outside, 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.360 sunshine has returned to our lives, and many of you 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.840 are preparing for a spring break. So what does spring 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.040 break mean to each of you at this stage in 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.320 your academic journey? So, Fatima, you are preparing for maybe 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.800 your last spring break, well definitely as an undergrad. So 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.960 what is spring break feeling like to you right now? 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:32.480 I actually just came back from spring break, And I 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.640 feel like for most people spring break is about like vacationing, 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.639 getting out the country and taking trips. But for me personally, 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.640 especially because I'm about to graduate, there's just a lot 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.120 going on and a lot to figure out because of 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:50.320 uncertainty about postgrad. For me, spring break was a time 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.920 for me to just reset, recharge, and just catch a break. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:55.720 So that's where I'm at. 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.560 Got it? And what about you, Jaiya, how are you 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.800 feeling about the pacing of spring break now that you 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:01.760 are a sophomore? 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.960 Yeah, so my spring rate ended two weeks ago, and 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.720 with every break, I agree with Fatima. I just take 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:11.880 that time to rest. I don't do much. I don't 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.520 go to Daytona, I don't party. I just sleep all 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:14.959 the time. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.200 And MICHAELA, this is your first year without necessarily an 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.160 official kind of spring break, right, So what it feel 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.919 like for you to not have that built in kind 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:24.680 of time off. 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.639 Yes, it's definitely treaking, some giving news to I think 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:36.000 having the kind of leisure and type of vacation built in. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:40.240 I miss it definitely. Because I supposed to graduate, I'm working, 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.480 and so those little things are things that I don't 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:48.240 really think about when exiting college, and you know, I 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.040 did still get to, you know, get in touch with 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.120 on my friends who are still in college and kind 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.960 of see what's going on and spring break and whatnot. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:04:00.720 But yeah, it's different. It's cool, but yeah, good time still. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.760 Okay. So, Fatima and Jaya, you both mentioned that you 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.040 did not use the spring break this year as an 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.400 opportunity to get out and party. You really used it 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.680 as a reset and like, Okay, let me just maybe 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.640 catch up on some things and me kind of collect 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.520 my breath. Is there any feelings of like, oh gosh, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.120 like I missed out, Like we're other friends traveling and 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.880 doing maybe more fun things, or how are you navigating 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:26.040 kind of watching maybe other people do the Daytona Jaya 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.440 you mentioned, or like the partying versus you kind of 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:29.720 just stay in put this year. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.440 For me, I don't necessarily feel like I missed out 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:38.359 on anything because I don't like big crowds. With this 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.679 spring break, I am in the semester right before nursing school, 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.880 so I'm preparing to take my teas, so it has 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.479 been a lot of studying on my end. So being 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.720 able to go home and just sit down and rest 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.039 and recollect my thoughts. I got a break that I 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:53.640 didn't know I needed because in college I'm so used 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.119 to be an oncle that when I really got time 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.080 to sit down, I was like, hmm, I was actually 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.680 always working. I needed this breaksit myself. 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.920 And for me, I did get a bit of fomo 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.320 because especially because I'm in my senior year, so I 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:10.920 was like, I'm going to look back at this and 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.520 regret that i didn't do it. But for me, I 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.839 think what was really important was stepping back and looking 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.279 at the bigger picture and understanding that I'm not in 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.400 a race with anyone and this is really just about 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:29.360 my mental wellbeing and my physical wellbeing. And I feel 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.520 like it also gives me something to work more towards, 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:36.480 because now the idea I have for myself is that, Okay, 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.360 for graduation and for my birthday, which is in June, 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:41.919 like four weeks out from grad, I'm going to do 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.040 it big. I'm going to treat myself. So I think 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:45.800 I'm coping well. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.440 Nice, nice. So you know, back in my days, so 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:54.200 to speak, all we had were like stories to tell 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.600 about like what we did on spring break? Right, are 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.920 what friends did on their spring breaks in years past 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.960 and even in current years, and now you all have 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.039 so much social media. There's so much technology, so many 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.160 different ways to document what's happening. If you think about 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.440 like the time you spend in college and McHale, the 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:13.440 time that you know, the years you spend in college, 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.280 how do you feel like social media has impacted our 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.080 influence the ways that you think about spring break? 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.840 I think social media has definitely created an image of 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:27.680 what spring break I guess quote unquote should look like. 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.200 And it's contrary to what both Giant Fatima said, just 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:36.719 kind of the recharging and recentering type of vibe, because 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.400 I feel like our generation like we're working really hard 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.200 because there's a lot of things and uncertainties that we 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.680 have to navigate, especially in that last year a couple 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.680 of years before you graduate slash postgrad, right, And so 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.080 I think the image that has created is like this 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:58.200 hard line between okay, recharging and recentoring and the partying. 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.600 But I think the image it's kind of changed over time. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:08.159 I think now it's like party, party, party, don't sleep, 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:12.680 But the reality might be something more closer than two. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.960 I'm gonna recharge, I'm gonna move into something fun and small, 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.920 maybe like a day trip, but mostly we still have 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.560 school next week, so that sort of thing. That's how 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.000 I actually spent my last two spring breaks. So but yeah, 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.560 I think it's changed depending on what we've seen. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:33.000 Mm hmm. Anybody else have thoughts about social media and 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.640 how it has influenced spring break culture so to speak? 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:41.040 Yes, so, at least from my perspective, I think social 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:47.040 media gives the impression that spring break is supposed to 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:51.320 be this big, grand thing, like these huge group chips. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.880 Like I know one friend group in my city. They somehow, 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.960 I don't know how the trip made it out the 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.680 group chat, but they gathered twenty college students and they 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:06.440 all stood in one villa in dr and they posted 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:07.880 a lot of pictures. It seemed like they had a 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.600 really great time. But for someone like me or other 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.480 people who didn't do much for spring break, it can 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.640 ruin your perception of what it's supposed to be of. 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.240 Is this supposed to be a time for me to 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.920 rest or? Is this supposed to be a picture perfect 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.440 trip where I'm taking pictures. I have this like a 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.000 friend group of fifteen twenty people. So I think social 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.320 media definitely amplifies the expectations of what spring break is 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.120 supposed to look like. Rather than it being a time 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.440 for rest, it's depicted to be more of a time 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.800 of partying, which is nothing wrong with it, but yeah, 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:43.800 definitely social media plays a big role in that. 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.360 Yes, I definitely agree with both Fatima and Mikayla. Going 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.360 back to what you said about fear and missing out, 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.440 I feel that social media plays a part in other 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.680 students with that. They feel like they have to be 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.640 at the parties, they have to be at the beaches, 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.000 they have to take the pictures, and they don't necessarily 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.440 feel like they need to recharge. They feel like it's party, party, party, 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:04.880 all the time. 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:09.600 Yes, And I wonder if any of you feel like, well, 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.840 I don't know, Jay, if you were in school, if 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.440 there's a difference for you, But has there felt like 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.760 there's a difference pre COVID and post COVID to spring break? 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.600 I mean, because I feel like you were home kind 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.079 of doing school at home or just on campus. There 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.440 were some years where we weren't really traveling, right, and 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.560 so has there felt like a difference now post COVID 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.120 to the spring break or have you not noticed very 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:32.840 much of a difference. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.800 I don't think I'm the best person to speak to that. 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.160 During COVID, I was in eighth grade, and then post COVID, 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.880 I was pretty much homeschool for high school, so it 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.880 was never a thing like spring break. But I will 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.800 say the high schoolers now are also participating in spring break, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.839 which is something I never knew about before. I was like, 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.120 when did we start doing this? 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.520 Like yeah, wow, I was not aware of that. What 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.960 about for you, Fatima and MICHAELA any kind of difference 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.800 between kind of pre COVID and post COVID spring break vibes. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:04.040 So when I started college right after lockdown, so I 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.920 wasn't in the thick of it before COVID, but I 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:13.080 did have older siblings who got to experience college pre COVID. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.080 And what I will say is that. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:19.079 Spring break before COVID, I feel like, was a lot 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.200 more chill in the sense that it wasn't a big 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.040 production for social media. It was, yeah, we're gonna go 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.480 to Miami, we're gonna go to Puerto Rico, we're gonna 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.439 go to the dr and everybody went on their trips. 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.480 Everybody took cute pictures and called it a day. Whereas 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.520 I feel like post COVID, I don't know what exactly 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.560 the shift was, but something really did shift, whereas like 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:47.440 everything is so social media centered now. Yes, spring break 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.080 I feel like is more reproduction now than it is 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:51.280 an actual trip. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.520 Yeah, I definitely agree with that. I wasn't. I also 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.240 wasn't going to be like in the figure that during 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.840 COVID or before I started college in twenty twenty one, 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.920 so I was a ride after. And yeah, I mean 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.840 it got time. Things were kind of getting reaccolated back 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:15.480 into kind of like a semi normal kind of structure 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.199 when it comes to like spring break and stuff like that. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:22.800 College culture, campus culture, especially at my HBCU. It took 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.120 like a little bit of time just to get back 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.800 into the swing of things. But I think now that 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.240 we've been back for like maybe a year or so, 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:35.600 like it has taken a grand kind of scale type 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.040 of thing. And I agree with the social media playing 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.400 a huge role in it, because it's got expectation to 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:46.520 go to all the places that's trending, get content, do 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.000 all those types of things, which isn't bad, like it's 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.360 your rag, but it's also like it is becoming like 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.880 super oversaturated and it feels like the focus should be 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.480 more on enjoying yourself and enjoying your peers. Why you 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.400 have that time to take that break, because you know 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:02.760 the rest of the last time it's really going to 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.959 be built into your schedule, And yeah, I think it 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:07.640 should be more focused on having a good. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:20.280 Time more from our conversation after the break, So, y'all 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.280 have mentioned a couple of cities that it feels are 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.000 still on the map for spring break right, So definitely 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.240 when I was in school, people talked about, like Daytana 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:31.040 Beach in Miami. One city that I feel like has 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.560 not been as much of a spring break destination but 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.440 that I'm definitely hearing more about this year is Houston. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.200 So I'm wondering, are people on your campuses talking about Houston? 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.400 Are they visiting Houston for spring break? And how do 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:45.520 you feel like cities like Houston and Miami, Like, how 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.400 did it become such popular attractions for spring break destinations 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:50.080 for students. 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:54.000 So one of my suite mates actually went to Houston, 0:12:55.000 --> 0:13:00.960 and I also was a little confused about why Houston 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:04.800 was the spot, especially because apparently this was like tropical 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.480 season in Houston or Texas. People were complaining they like, 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:09.839 you guys are coming here, but it's going to be 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:11.679 raining a lot, which. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.000 It did, and people were complaining. 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:17.120 But I think where the shift is coming from is 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:22.920 Miami placing a lot of restrictions on spring breakgoers, so 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.760 that like pushed a lot of people out. Miami kind 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.400 of was telling people don't come here anymore. And I 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:35.559 think where Houston came to play, I don't know, because 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.240 I questioned myself. I was like, why not Atlanta because 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.199 I don't know, But with Houston. 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:44.400 I think for Houston, it has a lot of club culture. 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:49.640 It's big, and I think also spring Break overlapping with Rodeo. 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.040 I think that also played a big role in it 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.200 as well. I was also telling the group before you 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:59.600 joined Ghana Independence also had like a big stream of 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.120 party He's going on in Houston during like the first 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.920 week of spring break. So I think what happened with 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.160 Houston this year, it was like there were three waves 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.880 of people. There were people coming for the Independence events, 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.520 there were people coming generally for spring Break, and then 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.280 there were people there for Rodeo as well, and that's 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:19.800 how we got what we got this year. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:22.960 Yeah, you know, it's really interesting because when I think 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.880 about spring break, I'm thinking typically water, right, that is 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.360 what I associated with, and there I don't think is 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.920 any water. I mean maybe the Gulf of Mexico, but 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.400 like in Houston, the kinda go lay out next to 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.600 But you bring up a great point around like nightclub 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.320 culture righting, like different cultural kinds of things that may 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.480 be interesting to students, Jaya, what have you been hearing 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.200 from peers as it relates to Houston and Miami in 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:45.960 different places? 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.840 Adding on to the Fatima's point, I only seen about 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.720 a handful of students actually go to Houston from my 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.239 school for rodeo. A lot of them went to Daytona, 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:59.200 and that is because Miami plays so many restrictions on students, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.440 but also with the nightclub culture there, Like say you 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.760 were a plus sized girl, you probably wouldn't even be 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.440 able to get into the clubs in Miami. But I 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.480 know a lot of people want that. Florida feel like 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.320 you said, a lot of people want to be around 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.000 water and be on the beach because I feel that 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.920 a lot of people subconsciously look at the beach as cleansing, 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.600 So a lot of people yet want to be around. 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.360 Water and MICHAELA, you were in Thoughland, New Orleans. We 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.320 know that's just like a quick drive to Houston. So 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.280 people talking about Houston as a fring break destination at 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:30.400 your time in campus. 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:35.680 So prior to this year, not as many people, even 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.160 though we were like super duper close. I think it 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:42.920 was more of like the Florida Miami vibe. But again, 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.000 as they said that, there are a lot more restrictions 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.920 and there are a lot of like different identity kind 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.960 of politics at play, which was a great point. And 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:56.480 so Houston has a lot going on this year, and 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:02.000 I feel like it was very i would say, like marketed, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.320 but a lot of people like with the plans of 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.560 the rodeo and stuff like that, like they made nice 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.880 plans and like layout so it can be like an 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.080 easy trip, so you can have expectations going into it. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.840 I think that's the positive. But the social media having 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:20.000 an impact is because when people are hosting events and 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:21.640 stuff like that, you get a feel of what you're 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.880 eating into and you can kind of share it into 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.800 the group chat and see if everybody's comfortable with the 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.360 vibe that Houston has. And it seems like a lot 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.400 of people that I know who are still currently at 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.440 my school, or probably even one or two years out 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.240 of graduation. All went to Houston to the rodeo and 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.960 just the surrounding parties. Like when a big thing like 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.680 that is happening in a city, everybody tries to maybe 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.800 do an event or that type of thing pop up. 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.840 So it seemed that there is an array of options 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.880 this time, and I think this time, this go around, 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.080 Houston was the place to go. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.640 So if I'm hearing you correctly, there were maybe like 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.440 ev organizers and maybe like party promoters who were getting 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.440 packages together almost for students to opt into, like oh, 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.320 come spend your spring break here in Houston and you 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.159 could just pay for your trip almost in one as 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.080 opposed to like somebody in your friend group organizing. And 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:15.680 is that kind of what y'all saw happening? 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.080 For sure? People who I saw when they're yeah, they 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.399 posted all the events if they were attending, and like 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:25.480 a lot of Greek events, different kind of school, kind 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.639 of theme events the school versus that school. Like people 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:31.199 really got creative with promoting and so I think that 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.679 also was a really big plus in detain around for. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.439 Got it, got it, So Fatima you mentioned, I mean 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.320 I'm thinking back to like my time in college, and 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:44.880 I don't even ever remember having an extra like two 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.280 hundred to five hundred or more dollars to like spend 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.840 on spring break. And you mentioned like all these people 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.000 getting together and like going to a villa or something 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.000 in the dr And so, how have you been hearing 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.560 peers talk about like actually financing spring break. Is it 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.399 something as like a gift from family? Are they saving 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:05.000 throughout the semester for it? Picking up an extra job 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:05.480 to do it? 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:05.639 Like? 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:09.120 How are people getting creative around financing? Hopefully not credit 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.200 card did, but how are people getting creative around financing 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:13.080 for spring break? 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:17.240 The top answer for that would be those refund checks. 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.520 A lot of people are using good amounts of der 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:23.800 refund checks. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.440 Work study jobs as well. People are picking up those 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:27.400 extra shifts. 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.919 Like before spring break, everyone I knew did not have 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.879 their hair done, no nails were done. Everybody was on 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.640 a very strict and tight budget. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:37.640 Fail. 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:41.879 That's definitely where that's coming from. 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:43.880 Any thought's there for you, Giant. 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.560 Yes, as far as how I feel people are founding it, 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.240 definitely refund checks, Definitely their parents. But one thing I've 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.159 been noticing is a lot of students are acting like 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:57.440 random students on campus. Hey, we're going here for screen break. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.280 Do you do someone want to put it in one 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:03.040 ninety five for the airbnb, Like complete random students that 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.439 they never spoke to before. They're just getting together to 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.760 get airbnbs and take the trips and flights. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.119 H Okay, okay, what about you and Kayla? 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.560 Yeah, for sure, I'd say you like a combination of 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:18.719 those two. Like people would definitely ask outside of their 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.359 friend us they can split it up more because the 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.240 more you split up the airbnb or the flight costs, 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:27.000 the cheaper it is. And then like leading up to 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.080 spring break, I saw people like selling brownies or like 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.879 bag goods, or like they'll do a hair sell hotel. Like, 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.959 people are getting really creative on campus around ramping up 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.560 to spring break because they were saving up and so 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.960 they'll use whatever talents they had to just support their 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.119 trip and so and openly do it. And people understood 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:52.240 that there's a common understanding with that, So people were 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.760 more prone to buying a big good or whatnot and 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:56.280 stuff like that supporting them. 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:59.359 You know, Jeah, you bring up an interesting point in 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.760 the interest of just trying to make the trip happen, 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.560 you end up maybe traveling with strangers or you know, like, Okay, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.640 I just need somebody to feel this spot. So Okay, 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:09.320 I don't know very much about you, but come on, 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.479 and the common joke around like girls' trips and they 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.600 fallen apart after a trip to Miami. I feel like 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.000 this could be one of the reasons why we sometimes 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.680 see tension after trips is that there is no real 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:25.359 common understanding or very maybe much knowledge of this person 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:28.360 that you're even traveling with, which can lead to like, oh, 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.399 I didn't know this about you because I didn't know 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.560 very much about you at all. And then maybe some 0:20:32.640 --> 0:20:35.280 of that's spelling over to campus. Have you seen any 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.680 kind of fallout from that even this year around people 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.760 who maybe didn't know each other that well and then 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:42.320 the group trip did not go so well. 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:44.360 Yeah, like the group chat did not make it out 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:48.160 of Miami together. I've seen, and it's sad to say 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.560 what I've seen, like girls get left on beaches and 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.360 stif girls get left back in the airbnbs because they 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.920 It's different when you are having a peer or friend 0:20:57.920 --> 0:20:59.879 and you guys only ever talk or me out the 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:03.200 side of a shared space. But then when you're living 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.760 together and you're not agreeing with what one person does 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:07.840 and what the next person does, and you guys are 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:11.639