Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush The Truth about Sorority Life with
Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Davey Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Dirty Rush.
Speaker 3: Our fraternity panels back to answer all your pressing questions.
Speaker 3: So let's get right into it.
Speaker 2: When you guys meet a girl, do you immediately put
Speaker 2: her in a box.
Speaker 4: Like a like a like a like a date, a
Speaker 4: date and only a date, like only a date, a hookup?
Speaker 2: Maybe you want to marry her right away, anything like that?
Speaker 2: Do you guys do that?
Speaker 5: Honestly, I would say with seconds of meeting someone, you
Speaker 5: know exactly like the extent, No, I know I was
Speaker 5: gonna say, I do probably within the first conversation I
Speaker 5: have with her, Like yes, this is somebody that would date,
Speaker 5: uh you, I would say, you know pretty.
Speaker 3: Early on, I feel like you know, media, they're gonna
Speaker 3: date a girl, but you know that she could potentially
Speaker 3: be a girl, like yeah, like yeah, you obviously check
Speaker 3: off the boxes where it's like you see your girl
Speaker 3: and obviously you're like, oh, me and this girl could
Speaker 3: be great friends.
Speaker 6: Potentially for a long time.
Speaker 3: But you like you obviously are like you see, you're
Speaker 3: gonna be like oh, I'm not gonna get them this
Speaker 3: girl to day there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's specific mannerisms I think, especially if it's at
Speaker 7: a party where you can just tell immediately, like I
Speaker 7: don't know, I think like eye contacts a big thing.
Speaker 7: You can tell if girls' just like it's just there
Speaker 7: like bow humans, like she doesn't like.
Speaker 6: To anything else, like just like grabbing you.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 7: But then there's girls like where you're actually gonna have
Speaker 7: a good conversation with her, where it's like, oh, I
Speaker 7: could see myself like hanging out with her after this party.
Speaker 2: Okay. Do you guys think girls put us in a
Speaker 2: box when they meet us?
Speaker 6: Maybe, but I don't think they're very good at it.
Speaker 8: I know, like like there's the dudes I see with
Speaker 8: girlfriends and like there's no way, like there's no way back.
Speaker 6: Guys like mc grants. Maybe I don't have them well enough, but.
Speaker 8: Like I always we'll see like like a classic sec relationship,
Speaker 8: you know that things like I'm there's just no way,
Speaker 8: Like there's no way that girls have that same intuition.
Speaker 6: If these are the products of.
Speaker 4: That intuition, I do think girls are worse at ignoring
Speaker 4: the red flags.
Speaker 2: Do you think they're better at well.
Speaker 6: I feel like guys at.
Speaker 2: The red flags.
Speaker 3: Girls we'll just like kind of like I feel like
Speaker 3: girls accidentally like going into relationship stuff way more than guys.
Speaker 9: They'll be like, oh.
Speaker 3: Like me and this guy dating, everyone's like what Whereas
Speaker 3: like guys will be like dating for a little bit,
Speaker 3: like looking up and then like be like, oh, I
Speaker 3: think I want a dator I don't know, and then
Speaker 3: start doing it. So like maybe girls don't do boxes.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think like girl's perspective over time
Speaker 10: can be swayed by like personality or like spending time
Speaker 10: with the girl after a while and like despite that
Speaker 10: initial perspective thinking like putting a dude in the box
Speaker 10: whether she would dat.
Speaker 1: Him or not.
Speaker 10: I think after talking to some more they're getting to
Speaker 10: know that the girls can kind of be swayed a
Speaker 10: little bit.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 7: I think it's much easier for a guy to give
Speaker 7: up get over, or like for a girl to let
Speaker 7: a guy get over the first impression where it's like
Speaker 7: I think, would you have a bad first impression with
Speaker 7: the girl, You're not gonna like follow up on that.
Speaker 6: I don't ye, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Actually, you know, because I'm thinking about it, and some
Speaker 3: guys like have a bad infession of them girl, but
Speaker 3: like get super drunk and do whatever and just.
Speaker 7: Like okay, but that's different than like then you're putting
Speaker 7: her in the box of like you just like I
Speaker 7: want to get with her where it's like you're not gonna.
Speaker 2: Date it that girl.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they totally put us in the box.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 7: But also this school is so small where you they
Speaker 7: already have a preconceived notion of you before going into
Speaker 7: the conversation.
Speaker 9: They go off, see they kind of know what they're thinking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's similar at this kind of I think
Speaker 4: at a bigger school, you just don't know as many people,
Speaker 4: so you're gonna give people. Yeah, okay, going into school,
Speaker 4: did you know what fraternity were you wanted to join
Speaker 4: before coming?
Speaker 11: I visited the school a year before I came here,
Speaker 11: like months before I came here, and I was actually
Speaker 11: lucky enough to go out with some of the brothers
Speaker 11: who are in the fraternity that I'm in now, and
Speaker 11: I think I had such a good time with them
Speaker 11: that kind of prompted me to have a strong inclination
Speaker 11: of where I wanted to go right when I first
Speaker 11: got here. I know, Ali though, has a good story
Speaker 11: about his perspective on the start.
Speaker 9: I knew Amana when I die here. Now I knew
Speaker 9: an older guy on my school, talked to him, liked him.
Speaker 9: Didn't me any really of the younger guys my another
Speaker 9: Fratorney thought they were cool. Went back to the older
Speaker 9: guy onto that fraternity. Now, yeah, living it up. So
Speaker 9: you joined the fraternity then draft to come back to
Speaker 9: this one. I was shutting my options. Do you want
Speaker 9: to drop that first fraternity because I saw what it
Speaker 9: had become like around this roll.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's say on the same lines.
Speaker 3: Coming to Santa Clair, I was kind of trying to
Speaker 3: fill out the fraternities.
Speaker 10: I just wanted to kind of see options best as possible.
Speaker 2: You know, it was a good school.
Speaker 10: I didn't want to completely confine myself to one fraternity.
Speaker 10: But after getting to know everyone and kind of dealing
Speaker 10: everything out with the kind of made the decision easier.
Speaker 7: Well yeah, yeah, Like I went out like similar as
Speaker 7: a previous story. I went out with some guys when
Speaker 7: I was visiting here like a year ago, and so
Speaker 7: I met them and then when I came like for
Speaker 7: a Welcome weekend.
Speaker 6: I was kind of hanging out with.
Speaker 7: Another fraternity, but their rush process they focused around a
Speaker 7: lot of seniors, and I didn't really get to know
Speaker 7: many of the younger guys. And my thinking around it was,
Speaker 7: these guys are only here for one more year, Like
Speaker 7: I want to be closer with the guys than be
Speaker 7: spending the rest of my four years with and I
Speaker 7: look like ash the younger guys and.
Speaker 8: The other for turn anymore totally, Uh, I don't. I
Speaker 8: didn't really want to join the fraternity at first, or
Speaker 8: I wasn't sure if I wanted to. And then when
Speaker 8: I got here, a couple guys in from my high
Speaker 8: school in this fraternity, and so I was just kind
Speaker 8: of hanging around a lot and slowly realized like.
Speaker 6: If I'm going to join any fraternity, it's gonna be
Speaker 6: this one. I never went to any other like rush
Speaker 6: events or.
Speaker 8: Any other fraternities or anything, so I guess I was
Speaker 8: kind of like all or nothing here.
Speaker 3: I know, I definitely like I'm went around with some
Speaker 3: different fraternities. It's kind of fun, just like meeting these
Speaker 3: guys because obviously during rush they're like, are way more
Speaker 3: warm to all these new guys and whatever where It's
Speaker 3: not always that way once people actually rush their PCs.
Speaker 3: But for me, it was like I did know a
Speaker 3: couple guys beforehand, and then there's also the freshmen that
Speaker 3: I met and become friends with already what they were
Speaker 3: interested in. Like Also, I was like, oh, like, obviously
Speaker 3: they have good opinions. Like if these guys are liking
Speaker 3: these guys and I like these guys, then.
Speaker 9: It all works.
Speaker 2: Have you guys ever lived in your fraternity house? What
Speaker 2: it's like? Any bad stories, any funny stories? How about
Speaker 2: you all?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 9: A few times I've seen people come back drunk and
Speaker 9: they've ripped trees out of the ground, of small trees
Speaker 9: and then play at them inside the house.
Speaker 2: Making a whole jungle.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 12: I think one thing with Rajourney, I was like, we
Speaker 12: have a bunch of different houses here. We have some
Speaker 12: like inner house wars. Sometimes I think I recall someone
Speaker 12: taking in the upper deck of someone's toilet and didn't
Speaker 12: tell anyone. They left it there for a couple of months.
Speaker 12: What uh, yeah, that was last year.
Speaker 2: In your house.
Speaker 9: Also, guys bought this one was just like like they're losers.
Speaker 9: They've bought on Amazon. The cricket noise strip and put
Speaker 9: them in everyone's room and it's I think it's still
Speaker 9: this dand it's probably been like nine months. It's like
Speaker 9: there's like three in this kid's room. You can't find them,
Speaker 9: and they'll play every thirty seconds noise.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess in my ass right now.
Speaker 10: Too.
Speaker 3: It's like it's a lot of things where people coming
Speaker 3: at like four am last like the PA speaker, like
Speaker 3: mixing or doing something, and then someone will at tax
Speaker 3: like freaking out, I have two midterms tomorrow, like shut
Speaker 3: the fuck up. But then they'll be like, you joined
Speaker 3: it for turn, this is what you signed up for.
Speaker 3: And then it just that happens like three or four
Speaker 3: times a week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very common occurrence. Yeah. Another question, do
Speaker 2: you do boys share details about hookups, dates.
Speaker 4: Situationships with other frat bros problems, like not to.
Speaker 6: The extent that girls do.
Speaker 8: I'm assuming Yeah, if someone comes home from a date
Speaker 8: like how did it get I'm like, good, we went here,
Speaker 8: it was good, it was fun.
Speaker 6: I got kind of it, unless there's like some crazy
Speaker 6: detail like that's kind of all you're gonna get.
Speaker 10: I know.
Speaker 6: The hookup too, it's like oh, how'd it get Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's fun. Yeah, it's kind of it.
Speaker 2: Some people ask more questions, as that makes me.
Speaker 3: I'm some people ask more questions, but I feel like
Speaker 3: that's so.
Speaker 2: True that a lot of them are jokes. A lot
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 3: Stink that guys are like talking about every detail. But
Speaker 3: literally some guy will come back, but yeah, have a
Speaker 3: good night. He'll be like, yeah, I'm like sweet, Like
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't really can't. I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't care about like what you said to her,
Speaker 8: what she said to you, or like what what exactly
Speaker 8: went down?
Speaker 6: Like I don't need those details at all. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: think that like girls.
Speaker 7: Are super detail oriented when they break things down with
Speaker 7: their friends, whereas like ours is pretty like blanket and
Speaker 7: unless it's like a super like crazy thing.
Speaker 6: That happened, like nobody's gonna really talk about it.
Speaker 9: You have the SparkNotes version.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, I got a juicy question for you guys.
Speaker 4: One of the biggest red flags and sorority girls that
Speaker 4: you guys notice.
Speaker 3: Being like part of a bunch of different like friend
Speaker 3: groups and different frats. So it's like your main like
Speaker 3: friend group of guys is not just like in a fraternity.
Speaker 6: It's like all of the.
Speaker 2: Fraternities, like they all have a guy frame, not just.
Speaker 3: A friend of few, it's like a whole group of
Speaker 3: guys they go over their house and hang out with
Speaker 3: and everything.
Speaker 2: Yea, what makes a bad drugs.
Speaker 9: There's a lot of falling down, very sloppy, loud, just
Speaker 9: like over doing it. Like they're always running around.
Speaker 6: Walking into our house like unannounced, like a weird, weird hour.
Speaker 6: That's like my mistake.
Speaker 1: I feel like if you guys like get too drunk
Speaker 1: or whatever, like you know, you'll get sloppy, like eventually
Speaker 1: if you have drunks, Like that's the same way with girls, right.
Speaker 8: Yes, but at the same time falling over. I've never
Speaker 8: had to have someone like carry me home or like
Speaker 8: take me home, And I think I see that every
Speaker 8: night at a party you're at as like a girl
Speaker 8: needs to be taken home, put her in an uber
Speaker 8: center home, carry her home, like somebody has to take
Speaker 8: care of a girl.
Speaker 6: And that's like I've never been.
Speaker 8: In a situation where it's like, oh my god, so
Speaker 8: and so so drunk, we gotta go get him, like
Speaker 8: we gotta make sure he's a couple of times here
Speaker 8: that Brits always okay, and if we left him alone,
Speaker 8: he could just fine.
Speaker 6: Maybe that's a different well, that's a different thing.
Speaker 10: Monkey girl have free shots and be like super smaller,
Speaker 10: so areer dreven.
Speaker 9: And they're just like a lot of this thy It
Speaker 9: was just like actually just like don't care.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the smart girl is like really hot
Speaker 3: and when you're like super like blatantly like not the smartest.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like one, girls get drunk. I think when
Speaker 6: guys get.
Speaker 7: Drunk, they still have some semblance of boundaries. When girls
Speaker 7: get drunk, like there's like free reign they think for
Speaker 7: them to do whatever they.
Speaker 6: Want and then it just ends up being so going.
Speaker 4: Guys can totally do that too, though, Yeah, but it
Speaker 4: doesn't happen as often.
Speaker 3: I see that every single that crossing boundaries when we
Speaker 3: start drinking, Like like we'll be like when we get
Speaker 3: back from a party at like three am and we're
Speaker 3: sitting down, like shots are kind of fired.
Speaker 6: Like you can totally cross boundaries as guys. What was
Speaker 6: what we're talking about?
Speaker 10: Though?
Speaker 7: It's like a really drunk guy won't just stumble into
Speaker 7: like a girl's house and like make a fool of themselves.
Speaker 7: We're a really drunk girl, like run into your house
Speaker 7: and like do some ship like that.
Speaker 6: That boundary still exists for guys, but I see what
Speaker 6: you're Yeah. Different note though, for red flags, I'd say if.
Speaker 10: The girl has like a promo code that's her own
Speaker 10: for any sort of small brand or anything.
Speaker 2: Like a Bathing Scooper brand or like the br.
Speaker 10: Energy Brandy brand, or like she got her little on
Speaker 10: promo code, like, that's probably that's that's not a good.
Speaker 4: Sign, yeah, being a model unless yeah, it doesn't work,
Speaker 4: like that's a red flag.
Speaker 10: I'm saying that she's like a to get by this
Speaker 10: and use my code, like and she got like under
Speaker 10: ten k followers or.
Speaker 9: Something like that for what.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you see your post on your story saying that
Speaker 10: that's definitely a big red flag and should be cautious.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, not only fan links thinking.
Speaker 9: I thought, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it's a different But I don't like styes
Speaker 6: are doing that.
Speaker 4: All right, Well, I guess closing thoughts these are all
Speaker 4: questions from storty girls.
Speaker 2: Were there any questions that you guys were surprised to hear.
Speaker 6: The box one? The box that's not something I can
Speaker 6: think about.
Speaker 2: Ever, Yeah, you've heard it before, but heard it.
Speaker 8: I just don't think about myself doing that, like definitely
Speaker 8: saying that people did.
Speaker 6: I think it was asked because it probably girls, Yeah,
Speaker 6: a little more often.
Speaker 2: I don't think you realize you do it. That's the thing.
Speaker 6: It's hard to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally yeah, Okay.
Speaker 12: They all seem like questions that I could definitely see asking, like, yeah,
Speaker 12: normal basis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you guys have any questions for story girls?
Speaker 7: Does anyone want to go to Holly's formal and.
Speaker 2: Serious ones?
Speaker 1: Serious?
Speaker 9: M hmm.
Speaker 6: I just like the same point.
Speaker 8: I do wonder like does it matter what house a
Speaker 8: guy is that?
Speaker 1: That's a really good one exactly. A girl's like view
Speaker 1: without knowing a guy, you know, it makes them? Does
Speaker 1: it make them more attractive? Is it without knowing him?
Speaker 3: Does your perspective on him change based on fraternity?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 10: But what year?
Speaker 9: Like if you're a senior, Yeah, I feel like he's
Speaker 9: like not blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like if he doesn't get as you get
Speaker 3: older too, and like you like go to senior year?
Speaker 7: Does a guy being in fraternity even matter at all?
Speaker 7: Do you care if they're not fraternity.
Speaker 4: Or maybe even after graduate, like after you graduate, would
Speaker 4: you want to your boyfriend or boy Yeah? Okay, girls,
Speaker 4: now we need the answers to our questions.
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