Speaker 1: What's Up.
Speaker 2: You're off in God's Country with Reeds and dan Is Boy,
Speaker 2: also known as The Brother's Home, where we take a
Speaker 2: weekly drive to the intersection of country music and the
Speaker 2: great outdoors. Two things that go together, like a rule
Speaker 2: that says you can't punch in the face, a brother
Speaker 2: rule that says you can't punch in the face, and
Speaker 2: the little brother punching the older brother in the face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those things go together. Or Augusta and golf. This
Speaker 3: podcast is brought to you by Meat Eater and iHeart podcasts.
Speaker 2: We've done a lot of these, a lot of them,
Speaker 2: and this is might be my most fun one.
Speaker 1: It was wacky, I mean so much.
Speaker 3: It was so wacky and from the contact we went
Speaker 3: red and then they just went nuts and it was
Speaker 3: so fun. They were so entertaining, great stories, unbelievable singers,
Speaker 3: good golfers.
Speaker 1: We had a whole we had a whole list of things. Questions.
Speaker 1: I don't think I did it, It's just I was
Speaker 1: hanging on for dear life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna love this one.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: We we had Charles and Josh Kelly, the Kelly Bros.
Speaker 2: The incredible musicians, incredible golfers, incredible storytellers. The cats are
Speaker 2: so talented and we just brother died this whole thing
Speaker 2: through through the whole pod.
Speaker 1: It's a little long, longer than our other ones, but
Speaker 1: what we're supposed to do. Hit the brakes on them.
Speaker 2: I think we I think you really enjoy it. So
Speaker 2: thanks to them for coming on, and thanks to y'all
Speaker 2: to watching and listening. We love you, we appreciate you.
Speaker 2: We're digging this new vibe in this room.
Speaker 1: Y'all are two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, follow us on the follow stuff and uh, we'll
Speaker 2: check you out next time.
Speaker 5: And god.
Speaker 1: Bro Pod, Brother Brother Pod. We've already had a podcast.
Speaker 2: We already had before we even turned the mics and
Speaker 2: everything on broadcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, you guys were so down. Tall dude, you
Speaker 1: guys are talls is a giant. I remember when he
Speaker 1: had this like gross spurt and Mom kept having Tom
Speaker 1: put him in like like warm bathwater because he was screaming.
Speaker 1: He was you could watch him. Oh really, you know
Speaker 1: what's funny. Ward had had that too, like really, and
Speaker 1: we were wondering and we got kind of freaked out
Speaker 1: because we were like les, We're like, you know, the
Speaker 1: worst thing you could do when anything's wrong with your
Speaker 1: kid is going freaking Google. Yeah, and we go indeed
Speaker 1: and we were like, they're always dying always. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it could be early sign of like some kids cancer
Speaker 1: things and all like we went daughters like it's probably
Speaker 1: just gross, Burt, you know, and I was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because I don't I don't remember anything. Josh remembers everything,
Speaker 1: and like, I don't remember ever doing that. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I'm a steel trap man. I can remember,
Speaker 1: I remember everything, and I don't remember. My wife can't
Speaker 1: remember yesterday, but she remember remember the future, baby saying
Speaker 1: let's go. I'm just not living, definitely not living because
Speaker 1: we're not younger bros. We're Yeah, this is young squad
Speaker 1: over here, just over here, young squad. It's all good.
Speaker 1: It's dark here versus whatever y'all are.
Speaker 2: We've got, we've got a couple of musical geniuses, some singers,
Speaker 2: golf ball smashing George Bros. Josh and Charles Kelly out
Speaker 2: God about that.
Speaker 1: That was really good professional.
Speaker 2: This is the second pod we've done in our new room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the new we did. I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did. That is one thing man, we've I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'd ever have the patience to go sit
Speaker 1: out there, stand and do that respect it you do.
Speaker 2: There's there's there's different there's different types. Like if you
Speaker 2: want to you can do that. You kind of you
Speaker 2: can kind of do whatever you want to do in
Speaker 2: that spectrum. Like if you want to go sit out
Speaker 2: and just wait and and not talk to anybody, zero
Speaker 2: social at all, go hunt one of those for a
Speaker 2: week in Illinois. But if you want to like run
Speaker 2: around calling response, talk with your buddy, go home with
Speaker 2: your buddy, go on a turkey.
Speaker 1: I know. Well, it's so funny. I've been invited like
Speaker 1: so many times, like t R what wanted to be
Speaker 1: going down on this thing? And I was like, if
Speaker 1: I've got two three days, I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: and he was like, got get all this gear, wake up,
Speaker 1: go it's morning. And I was like, I don't go
Speaker 1: play golf. But like it's funny. We grew up, you know,
Speaker 1: in Augusta, and then my dad had this, uh you know,
Speaker 1: all this cattle and farm up in North Georgia Mountain.
Speaker 1: So it was like a little bit of like but
Speaker 1: it was like work. It was like we're kind of country,
Speaker 1: was it? Like, yeah, go hunt play country. It wasn't
Speaker 1: play country. Yeah. I actually remember because when I went
Speaker 1: to college, you spent one summer there working on dad's ranch,
Speaker 1: and you you were like and said, I never want to.
Speaker 1: It was he was weedy defence line. He made me
Speaker 1: do the whole time, like his ass was sitting on
Speaker 1: there on a freaking bush hog, enjoyed it and cruise
Speaker 1: it around. He's gonna look. I was like deep in
Speaker 1: here having it, changed the string every five seconds on
Speaker 1: this weed eater. I was like, And I remember too,
Speaker 1: I had this girlfriend, had a little picture on the truck,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I gotta get hold, get
Speaker 1: me out of here. The next thing, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I got like a job that you know, even
Speaker 1: it was like Dad's paid me five dollars an hour.
Speaker 1: I got one for six dollars working in the back room,
Speaker 1: you know, at the club. I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do that, but that at least you're in the a C.
Speaker 1: You're not out there sweating. Yeah, I know, I agree.
Speaker 3: I had Our dad was like that too. We talk
Speaker 3: about all the yards we mode. He would we couldn't
Speaker 3: even drive. He would drive us around and just drop
Speaker 3: us in the mowers and the and the stuff off,
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 1: He'd go like he's just gone.
Speaker 2: He called it, we caught it the grind. And we
Speaker 2: would wake up on a Saturday and be like, damn,
Speaker 2: be like you ready for the grind?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I didn't want to go. What we
Speaker 1: want to do is play golf. And what he had
Speaker 1: is doing is his little side hobby was restoring old homes,
Speaker 1: and we were the labor little Yeah, well, what's fun
Speaker 1: now we enttry child. So my dad, like literally what
Speaker 1: he grew up in North George Mountains sold bibles door
Speaker 1: to door, one of these crazy little stories of the record,
Speaker 1: sold bible's door to door to pay his way through
Speaker 1: medical school. So you had this like dichotomy of hum
Speaker 1: me and he's like, you know this like doctor. And
Speaker 1: then he was like you know, but he'd never stopped working.
Speaker 1: He was just he would work. I mean, I really
Speaker 1: think though in a great way it taught us about
Speaker 1: the value of hard work. But the weekends you're like, yeah, oh, buddy,
Speaker 1: is gonna do this. He's like, well, I can't do
Speaker 1: that till we do this first, And next thing you know,
Speaker 1: we're up there like knocking out asbestos walls. Just calming down,
Speaker 1: He'll be all right, I feel close your mouth.
Speaker 3: So our dad is a uh, well, now it would
Speaker 3: be it would be considered a marketplace a halic like
Speaker 3: he and I probably talked.
Speaker 1: Have I talked about this a thousand times? Okay? What
Speaker 1: I want to hear it?
Speaker 3: Well, so he's like addicted to buying things on marketplace.
Speaker 3: He doesn't even care what the item.
Speaker 1: Is, just a deal, It's just a chase heart. So
Speaker 1: check this out.
Speaker 3: So when we this is what phillis relo to what
Speaker 3: you're saying, we were probably and I was probably in
Speaker 3: high school where he was in middle school. And our
Speaker 3: dad calls, and this is before marketplace even existed. I
Speaker 3: mean he's been doing this for literally.
Speaker 1: His entire life. Tennessee Florida game.
Speaker 3: Halftime in the Tennessee Florida game, he calls and he goes, hey, man,
Speaker 3: you and Reed I need y'all get the truck and
Speaker 3: trailer and meet me over here in Shiloh. I bought
Speaker 3: something that is half time, like the third quarter is
Speaker 3: about to start, like it was also fall cool, crisp,
Speaker 3: like awesome Saturday, right, And so he's like, uh, yeah, grab.
Speaker 1: The trailer and meet me over And I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: all right, dude. So we love the trailer.
Speaker 3: We're as we're first off, it's a thirty five minute drive.
Speaker 3: As we're pulling up into this driveway in the middle
Speaker 3: of god knows where.
Speaker 1: He's on the back.
Speaker 3: He's on the he's standing next to like sixty giant
Speaker 3: cardboard boxes just I mean literally like thirty foot of
Speaker 3: just stacked cardboard boxing and he's counting money like this
Speaker 3: he's at it was an auction, counting money. And when
Speaker 3: we pull up with the trailer and we're like, Dad,
Speaker 3: what what is this? And he goes bought a library. Boys,
Speaker 3: and I've already doubled my money.
Speaker 1: He was selling the books out of the library that
Speaker 1: he had just bought at the auction and had already
Speaker 1: doubled his money.
Speaker 4: But now we're like, we got to load these.
Speaker 1: Freaking boxes, loaded the whole library, loading these boxes, and
Speaker 1: I guarantee you they're still in that Backshit.
Speaker 3: We're like, what are you gonna do with My mom
Speaker 3: was like, Randy, what do you do?
Speaker 1: They're just like santamon A Bay. Yeah that I'm the
Speaker 1: same way, man, I haven't gone I haven't had my
Speaker 1: morning bathroom ritual without being on either Craigslist, KSL or
Speaker 1: Facebook market place probably fifteen years. CASSL maybe more. KSL
Speaker 1: is like, so you tall, Wyoming and Idaho have their
Speaker 1: own thing and it's where they sell everything. So if
Speaker 1: you want to find something where people who have no
Speaker 1: idea what the value actually really is KSL. So I'm
Speaker 1: on it every morning. I mean I found a nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty B three organ with a Leslie cabinet for I
Speaker 1: think like a thousand dollars. I can sell it here
Speaker 1: for like that, what did we do when we took
Speaker 1: a dump without ourselves? I have no idea? What do
Speaker 1: we do? I have no idea? Magazines, yeah, magazine. Speaking
Speaker 1: of that, I had a buddy we talked about that
Speaker 1: Slid as a buddy of mine. I mean his dad's
Speaker 1: button up guy, amazing guy. And I remember always going
Speaker 1: to his house and in in in like their their
Speaker 1: you know, bedroom, and in the in the in the bathroom,
Speaker 1: he had a stack of like playboys in his bathroom
Speaker 1: with his wife, and I was like, like, with the
Speaker 1: wife in there, I was like, it just seems like
Speaker 1: something you kind of seeking. So of course we would
Speaker 1: always go to his house and.
Speaker 4: Room again those gorgeous like where's Charles?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like sitting there on the pot and going,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling really sexy, just like you know, delicious dreads
Speaker 1: or maybe reading articles. I mean maybe sometimes, I mean
Speaker 1: maybe they were good articles. I never just like on this,
Speaker 1: I believe we made it to.
Speaker 2: The first We do a segment called what You're mad at?
Speaker 2: There's anything that's bugging you if you want a little
Speaker 2: and when.
Speaker 1: You sing about it to his what he's written. We
Speaker 1: got a little song that we saw. We start off with.
Speaker 4: Calm down, what mad?
Speaker 5: Just tell us what it is?
Speaker 6: What you're mad?
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 5: You in Lost Kids?
Speaker 4: Might be your boss man or your neighbors?
Speaker 5: Can just tell us what you mad?
Speaker 1: I told you it was coming?
Speaker 4: Might be my uh, what you're mad? I can't just
Speaker 4: tell us what it is?
Speaker 1: What you're mad?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 1: You in Lost Kids?
Speaker 5: Might be your.
Speaker 1: Boss man or your neighbors cat just tell us what
Speaker 1: those were all things I was kind of mad at
Speaker 1: when I wrote that. Dan says, mad is that a real?
Speaker 1: That's a that's a great song. Thank you man, you
Speaker 1: should cut it man. You guys's on hold right now
Speaker 1: for Keith Urban.
Speaker 8: I know that's a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry, guys, you mad, you mad at something?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm mean. This is the segment.
Speaker 1: Is what's supposed to talk. The next time I come here,
Speaker 1: I'm going to drive here. I'm going to bring my
Speaker 1: tools and we're gonna make you a an area to
Speaker 1: put your guitar that's much closer to your That's what
Speaker 1: i'd a right now.
Speaker 3: That's that's on my wolf over there. He's supposed to
Speaker 3: bring me a You know it's all catered here.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. You're mad at my driver? Man, I
Speaker 1: got to play Pine Valley this last weekend. I thought,
Speaker 1: you bet like the guy who drove you.
Speaker 5: That's a lot of in the back of coffee on me.
Speaker 8: I was like, did you cut took the left?
Speaker 1: When I said no, my freaking actual driver, Josh, we
Speaker 1: might go out there and play to play tomorrow. Josh
Speaker 1: has always been the best driver of golf. Pall I.
Speaker 1: Josh is a great I should be able to beat
Speaker 1: the absolutely messide of the ball. But man, it's messing
Speaker 1: a game up, dude. In the fairway. I got the
Speaker 1: new the new Smoke Calloway smoke and this like the
Speaker 1: Camo came. It is hot. Yeah, but it's hot into
Speaker 1: the rough and every other way. Wow, you're you a fader?
Speaker 1: You draw the ball? What you did? See? That's problem.
Speaker 1: I don't know which one's coming that day. One day
Speaker 1: it's the fade, one day it's the draw. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, have you gotten? Have you gone and
Speaker 1: gotten fitted? That's from my iron, is not my driver?
Speaker 1: You gotta do it. It's just like fly fishing when
Speaker 1: you're trying to load a rod. If if the kick
Speaker 1: point and for your swing and your swing speed is wrong,
Speaker 1: if it's kicking before it comes to the ball, it's
Speaker 1: got to be that. That's what it is. It's the club.
Speaker 1: It's the shaft. The shaft so much more important than
Speaker 1: the driver head. The shaft is way more expensive too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was the same way, bro. I could not find
Speaker 2: a fairway for years, and the driver was part. Irons
Speaker 2: were fine, wedge game was fine. Always been a really
Speaker 2: good putter.
Speaker 1: Well we got got a little thing we might do.
Speaker 2: Always like a great put I could read good green reader,
Speaker 2: all that, but I couldnt find a fair way. And
Speaker 2: golf gets really hard when you can't. When you don't
Speaker 2: play for it's like, oh.
Speaker 1: It's putt. Like listen, playing there, chipping out of the
Speaker 1: you know, every hole you know, chipping back into play one.
Speaker 2: It is literally hard, like digging it out of some
Speaker 2: of the especially Pine Valley, which I'm sure that office.
Speaker 1: That the bunkers there. I was like, literally, if you
Speaker 1: ever got to play it, it is insane if you're in
Speaker 1: that bunker, but you cannot. It's considered one of the
Speaker 1: best courses in there. It's unbelievable. You can't advance it
Speaker 1: like you can't if you're in a if you're in
Speaker 1: one of those bunkers are so deep that you're just
Speaker 1: getting it back out. So every hole, I just like,
Speaker 1: I just bog get that course to death. It was brutal.
Speaker 2: I just went last year, went and got fitted for
Speaker 2: Woods and they put me in an extra stiff with
Speaker 2: a plan the stealth too, I think, and dude, I've
Speaker 2: never driven the ball better and and I cannot wait
Speaker 2: to tee the ball up and hit it off. The
Speaker 2: everything's matching up and my club face is squaring up.
Speaker 2: And that's that's the problem. I mean, And that's the
Speaker 2: thing what people don't know about golf is like if
Speaker 2: your club face is a degree open, an impact just
Speaker 2: two degrees open it it's the the forty yards.
Speaker 1: It's insane. Yeah, it's so important. It's worth going out
Speaker 1: and getting fitted, especially for yourversion rate. It makes the
Speaker 1: biggest difference. Yeah, absolutely, And what you were saying about,
Speaker 1: when you're hitting the driver wrong, your confidence is gone
Speaker 1: for the rest of the day and then you're getting
Speaker 1: your head and you're thinking about it getting on a
Speaker 1: tea box big time.
Speaker 3: So well, you're creatives. It's kind of what we do.
Speaker 3: You know, we live in there.
Speaker 1: Man. You can't shut that stuff off.
Speaker 3: Even with golf. It's like you try to. For me,
Speaker 3: I mean hunting, fishing, I can kind of cut it off.
Speaker 3: And it seems like I've said this before, but it
Speaker 3: seems like the better song ideas come through when it's
Speaker 3: when I'm kind of off and when I'm constantly trying
Speaker 3: to think of hooks and melodies and phrases. But with golf,
Speaker 3: for me, I got kind of obsessed this year. It's
Speaker 3: really just been kind of fun for me, just kind
Speaker 3: of but I was having trouble. I was hitting everything,
Speaker 3: Remember I was hitting everything one thirty five five iron
Speaker 3: one thirty five didn't matter, and I was swinging hard.
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out what was going on.
Speaker 3: And then I went to Florida and I rented some
Speaker 3: clubs and played, and it was they were regular shaft
Speaker 3: dude changed everything. But I was just swinging. I've always
Speaker 3: swung his old.
Speaker 1: Clubs, which were always extra stiff. Dude. My swing speed
Speaker 1: as an amateur is not what is this? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I'm an amateur too. I don't well
Speaker 1: a beautiful speed. Nobody course speed. Yeah, nobody calls you.
Speaker 1: They call you what Tor speed? Nobody calls you at all.
Speaker 1: But the guy that got fitted was like, oh Tor
Speaker 1: speed man. Nobody did. I love golf? I want to
Speaker 1: be I like, awf a lot. I'm on. I want
Speaker 1: to I'm on the road to I want to be
Speaker 1: a scratch offer man. Oh yeah, I never have been.
Speaker 2: I've shot under par a few times, did at one
Speaker 2: time this year, But like, I want to, I want
Speaker 2: to shoot. I want to go knowing that I can
Speaker 2: shoot around.
Speaker 1: Even No one realizes when you get into golf, like
Speaker 1: it's easy to go from. I shouldn't say it's easy.
Speaker 1: It's way easier to go from a twenty handicap to
Speaker 1: like an eight, no doubt. But when you start trying
Speaker 1: to go from like six, and that's even a five's
Speaker 1: to a zero, it is it's everything. Its chipping, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's keeping it in play. I'm I'm kind of
Speaker 1: forever stuck in my handicaps forever, like a three, two
Speaker 1: of five. And you know, and.
Speaker 3: Those of you that know anything about golf, that's incredible.
Speaker 1: Dude. We've been growing up, grow in Augusta. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to play golf, but you have no friends.
Speaker 1: And I don't think. I don't think I'll ever get
Speaker 1: jump the hoop unless I completely change all my fundamentals,
Speaker 1: which you know, because I've got some habits that have
Speaker 1: just developed over years and like and I mean, I've
Speaker 1: gotten lessons in The guy was like, I mean, You've
Speaker 1: got so much going on, and then he was like,
Speaker 1: you have to be willing to play really really shitty
Speaker 1: golf for two years, and I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I'd rather just scoot around. I will
Speaker 1: say in two thousand and nine, when I joined Lake
Speaker 1: Side back in the day, I got to scratch for
Speaker 1: the first time. I mean, d one college golfer by
Speaker 1: I careered in a j G A tournament. I had
Speaker 1: no business planning D one and Charles knows it. But
Speaker 1: I got really good at golf again in two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine, and I was writing the shittiest songs of
Speaker 1: my and I was like, okaying, literally, it's either you
Speaker 1: spend all your time on that to get to this
Speaker 1: goal which is going to make you no money, or
Speaker 1: or you I'm really happy balance. Let's be honest too,
Speaker 1: what's what's the first thing that gives when you played
Speaker 1: a lot of golf? Probably your marriage. Yeah. The one
Speaker 1: the one of the main reasons I had to stop
Speaker 1: drinking was because of golf. I was like, I come
Speaker 1: home and and and it was just like, well everybody
Speaker 1: was doing it. I was like, what am I supposed
Speaker 1: to do? I hammered, it's one o'clock. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know Tommy's for you know.
Speaker 3: The strong one of those things that I like a
Speaker 3: golf course all the time.
Speaker 1: Transfusion my old master's uh Gustin National, our older brother
Speaker 1: talks about all the time. Well yeah, it's like it's
Speaker 1: like great or I don't know, it's low calorie, it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of great great,
Speaker 1: a little bit of ginger. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: My new thing is John Daly's the Sweet Tea Vodka.
Speaker 2: It's like a like a Arnold Palmer was listening. Did
Speaker 2: you ever hear she is a great thing.
Speaker 1: I haven't drinking. There's a great story, I think Arnold Palmer.
Speaker 1: They were like they were like, uh, I can't remember
Speaker 1: what it was. Somebody had ordered uh an Arnold Palmer,
Speaker 1: you know, put vodka in it. And he goes aay,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to John Daly and uh, And I
Speaker 1: guess Arnold Palmer some story where he was like, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's an Arnold Palmer with vodka. That's not a Johnt.
Speaker 1: He was offended.
Speaker 2: I kind of like, actually, I kind of feel bad
Speaker 2: for collinhim John Days now.
Speaker 1: N Palmer story. Years ago, I was playing in Arnold
Speaker 1: Palmer's like pro am tournament, and I was so excited
Speaker 1: to play with him. And at thet and we only
Speaker 1: everybody got to play one hole with Arnold Palmer, And
Speaker 1: at the very end of the hole, I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: do you have any advice that you can give me?
Speaker 1: And he looked at me and he goes, shave that
Speaker 1: off your face. Had a bigger bear, dad, but it
Speaker 1: didn't matter what it was. He just goes shaved that
Speaker 1: off your face and.
Speaker 8: He walked away.
Speaker 1: That's old school, though their old school, the old school.
Speaker 1: They want you clean. That'll mess around, man.
Speaker 2: I think that's one of the attractions to golf too,
Speaker 2: is that it is what you're saying.
Speaker 1: It's it's one of the only things.
Speaker 2: Left that that you don't A lot of the new
Speaker 2: generation is not respecting, but a lot of the old
Speaker 2: generation that grew up with it wants to continue to
Speaker 2: respect and and it'd be a gentleman's game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and tradition. Tradition as being a gentleman. You know,
Speaker 1: when people know that you play golf here, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like synonymous with being an honest person.
Speaker 1: You know, a patient supposed to be patient. You're so,
Speaker 1: you know what, honest. When I signed my first deal,
Speaker 1: I remember when Bob Caballa I should bought Cabal's hand
Speaker 1: and he turned my hand over and he could feel
Speaker 1: all the calusies and he goes, you're a golfer. I
Speaker 1: was like, yes, I am, and I don't already been
Speaker 1: hanging out my buddy's place in his in his bathroom.
Speaker 1: I had to go there with he is a big
Speaker 1: fan of that. What do you think that I made
Speaker 1: of leather? Do you think there's same paper down there?
Speaker 1: Like six hundred grip? So, dude, you and Dad have
Speaker 1: the I did not get that gene. We have oven. Mit, well,
Speaker 1: just really strong hands. Like a few times Josh and
Speaker 1: I have gotten into it. He'll hold I mean, well,
Speaker 1: there's one time in high school. Yeah, Josh was bad
Speaker 1: about like Josh never cleaned his Josh so like he
Speaker 1: never like had clean clothes. How how far an year
Speaker 1: and a half. He's grovy, but he like came in.
Speaker 1: He would always come in. You know, it's like taking
Speaker 1: my best shirt. That's my best shirt, dude. And we
Speaker 1: got this big old argument and I come downstairs.
Speaker 9: I'm like, stop wearing my clothes. And I said something
Speaker 9: and we I had been I've never been a tough guy.
Speaker 9: But you were practicing boxing.
Speaker 1: If you've noticed something. But were you always We're not
Speaker 1: a tough guy. Were you always a big guy?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 1: Big guy? But like, so is this when you were
Speaker 1: practicing boxing? And I bought this? Like is this when
Speaker 1: you were practicing boxing in the boxing boxing. I was
Speaker 1: doing it for cardios gone, just in case maybe I
Speaker 1: needed needed to defend my said, you weren't a tough guy.
Speaker 1: You were practicing boxing in the ground. It was I
Speaker 1: probably fifteen or whatever. And so to figure this out,
Speaker 1: so we bought yeah, well this like you know one
Speaker 1: the little thing hanging hanging it from the the garage,
Speaker 1: you know, the deal and hanging. And so every night
Speaker 1: I'll be out there and I'll be boxing it, and
Speaker 1: I mean it felt it felt good. I felt like
Speaker 1: I was getting somewhere. And he was trigger happy and
Speaker 1: I was trigger happy, and Josh square it up to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know what got me, because you always had
Speaker 1: a rule, like we wrestled you, yeah you can. I mean,
Speaker 1: Josh used to just do this, you know, hold me
Speaker 1: down and just yeah. But this was one of those
Speaker 1: times we kind of square up and my instincts kick
Speaker 1: instincts kicking, and I give him this little this little
Speaker 1: left job, right it was, but he didn't like. He
Speaker 1: just went, you hit me in the face, you know
Speaker 1: a rule, And I, like a freaking child, ran upstairs
Speaker 1: and like locked myself in the bathroom and he comes
Speaker 1: up and like we you know, and I'm like terrified
Speaker 1: because Josh. It's to the time kid got really big.
Speaker 1: He was on creating probably Royds for sure, Royds Josh.
Speaker 1: When Josh was something, he goes like all in like
Speaker 1: like randomly. One year was like you know, he's like
Speaker 1: golfing all this stuff, and he's like I want to
Speaker 1: join the wrestling team. And then like next year's like
Speaker 1: I'm joining the rowing team, like random, just like I
Speaker 1: don't know where that gets into. But he got really
Speaker 1: big and and uh man, We're sitting there and I
Speaker 1: know this day very well. I still remember all we
Speaker 1: come out then I don't remember how much, but I
Speaker 1: remember this I can thing and we like at the
Speaker 1: end of it started just like crying and we can
Speaker 1: I tell you the taild up leading up to that.
Speaker 1: So he ran into his room. He locked one door
Speaker 1: and then and then I picked that lock, and then
Speaker 1: he the double doors that didn't have a lock, and
Speaker 1: I was like, and then he was bathroom and when
Speaker 1: were you going to murder him or were you just
Speaker 1: trying to get I was afraid he would again, I
Speaker 1: was making weedy. I can't hurt my little brother. It's
Speaker 1: my buddy. And so what I did is like we
Speaker 1: sat down the couch and I was like, I have
Speaker 1: to hit you for one leg and I went, I
Speaker 1: went again and then and then we both cried. We cried,
Speaker 1: we have I have to hit you. We have we
Speaker 1: have the same exact story. We have.
Speaker 10: We have.
Speaker 1: John is this size? When I was like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: look like a bike, like a Viking. Yeah. That was
Speaker 1: always man. I was always like, like, my my nickname
Speaker 1: was Cricket. Like they called me cricket a little video.
Speaker 1: That's a great nickname. Cricket. Sophomore you kind of started
Speaker 1: growing sophomore callings. You need to watch Big City Greens
Speaker 1: if you have a cartoon with your kids. They got
Speaker 1: the Cricket. That's one of the best cartoon. Great show.
Speaker 1: I literally watch it by myself. That's so funny with that.
Speaker 1: So I come home one day He's playing.
Speaker 3: It might have actually been punched out or something, and
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, hey, man, like I'm playing,
Speaker 3: and I was a good I was. I was sweetie too. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I was like I was a nice big heart. Yeah,
Speaker 3: big big hearted for sure, big big pants, big husky,
Speaker 3: husky boy. Yeah, it's all right, I ain't mad at it.
Speaker 1: So I come upstairs.
Speaker 3: He's playing the game. I was like, hey, I'm playing.
Speaker 3: He was like, well, let me finish this episode or episode.
Speaker 3: We finished this level level and I was like, nah,
Speaker 3: grabbed him, kind of chunked him into the closet.
Speaker 2: He he would always like pick me up, and like
Speaker 2: he would open the closet doors and all the clothes
Speaker 2: were there and throw me in, just like.
Speaker 1: Throw me into it, hits the closet, big clothes and
Speaker 1: just fall down a soft throw, right, So he hits
Speaker 1: the clothes, they fall. He's like, whatever happening is in there?
Speaker 1: And he and I'm like, you know whatever, And all.
Speaker 3: Of a sudden, I just feel like spot, he just
Speaker 3: caught me. I'm talking about west ankle from the floor.
Speaker 3: Probably got I probably got him at that point by
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And so I've been throwing in the closet to me
Speaker 2: like I was sitting, I was sitting the bottom of
Speaker 2: the close.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, manka, and keep in mind, I
Speaker 3: have whipped a bunch of asses that even looked at
Speaker 3: him wrong, not like nobody.
Speaker 1: I protected Charles too the same way. So I jump
Speaker 1: on him.
Speaker 3: I put both of his arms across his chest with
Speaker 3: one hand and I read back and I was like, hey, man,
Speaker 3: I could you see the size of my fist.
Speaker 1: But he was like, you know, we don't punch in
Speaker 1: the face, so you know, we don't punch the face.
Speaker 1: And I could kill you. I could kill you if
Speaker 1: I punched you in the face. He's going, oh no, damn,
Speaker 1: I know. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I'll never do anything.
Speaker 1: I should not have done that. I'm sorry. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I did that.
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, man, I'm gonna let you up,
Speaker 3: but like, we don't punch the face. He's like, okay,
Speaker 3: So I let him up and I was on my
Speaker 3: knees after just let him going, I cannot believe. And again,
Speaker 3: and this time it was like and it was black.
Speaker 3: I mean, he blacked me out. He gave me right there,
Speaker 3: and it was kind of temply it's kind of template.
Speaker 1: I had to get him. There's there's a time to
Speaker 1: like establish like, yeah, I ain't a kid.
Speaker 3: That's when it happened because I was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 3: fixing the murder this guy.
Speaker 1: And when I turned around, the door was it was swinging.
Speaker 1: I could hear him and so, and I thought I
Speaker 1: was like, man, maybe for those two weeks, I was
Speaker 1: just being a jerk big brother, and I shouldn't do
Speaker 1: that anymore. But it leveled, it leveled it out. You
Speaker 1: established yourself like new sheriff and get it where you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm new constable in town. Yeah they Cily sheriff. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys. I'm sorry that
Speaker 1: I just want to know because I don't know what
Speaker 1: I will know. I want to know thing. Want to
Speaker 1: know because the similarities are like it's it's eerie. How
Speaker 1: did you guys find music? Like when how did you?
Speaker 1: How did you? One days go? Like I think I'm
Speaker 1: pretty good at writing and making music. Well, you want
Speaker 1: to go because I know how we started. My thing
Speaker 1: was I always like to ask.
Speaker 2: Our dad's a Baptist preacher and it's still to this day,
Speaker 2: a Baptist preacher in south of Nashville. And so I
Speaker 2: found music by just as long as far back as
Speaker 2: I can remember, I was singing, and we were singing
Speaker 2: like I was singing specials. And we would sit in
Speaker 2: the second row behind the and the choir and everything
Speaker 2: was right here, and it was me, Dan and my sisters,
Speaker 2: and we were just singing harmonies and singing park were there's.
Speaker 1: So much and we got so bored and so tired
Speaker 1: of hearing our dad speaking.
Speaker 3: There's also like an hour and a half worth of
Speaker 3: music on Sunday morn and an hour and a half
Speaker 3: worth of music and Sunday night, and there's probably forty
Speaker 3: five minutes on.
Speaker 1: Wednesday, so and we had to be there. So as
Speaker 1: we're hearing this.
Speaker 3: Stuff, like we start learning the soprano parts, the alto parts,
Speaker 3: the baritone parts, and the bass parts, and we start
Speaker 3: swapping because we're there so much. The melody just kind
Speaker 3: of got boring. So we learned harmony and singing through that.
Speaker 3: As far as like writing, I was always kind of
Speaker 3: a extroverted writing.
Speaker 1: Kind of guy.
Speaker 3: Like I always wrote similar even as like first I
Speaker 3: remember first grade that I had a notebook that I
Speaker 3: was writing about girls and all this stuff, and I
Speaker 3: was so embarrassed about it, you know.
Speaker 1: And so even through middle.
Speaker 3: School, I started loving like just loving music, country music,
Speaker 3: gospel music, just loving music. And I actually learned guitar
Speaker 3: to put just to put my words. Like I didn't
Speaker 3: learn guitar because I wanted to be a guitar player.
Speaker 3: I learned a guitar player because I wanted. I realized
Speaker 3: that it wasn't effeminate to write. Poe was at the time,
Speaker 3: I was playing football, so I was like, I can't
Speaker 3: be the football player that writes poems, but I can
Speaker 3: be the football player that writes songs.
Speaker 1: Because she loved that.
Speaker 3: So that that kind of projected me into the like
Speaker 3: writing thing. And it was still really really really uncomfortable,
Speaker 3: if you want to know the truth, just because it's
Speaker 3: like it was a different It's not the tough guy
Speaker 3: persona when you're in ninth grade, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: You're like the weird kid that that plays the red strap,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And and it was it was, it was that's kind
Speaker 1: of how it developed for me.
Speaker 3: And before I knew it, it was I've been in
Speaker 3: I have been in bands long, I mean for more
Speaker 3: than half of my life, just kind of popping from
Speaker 3: different things, a different thing. And then I was in
Speaker 3: a country band where we did the kind of a
Speaker 3: funk country thing.
Speaker 1: Got looks up here, you know what.
Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, that's funny I'm saying this. My first hold
Speaker 3: in town was on lady A and I thought I had.
Speaker 1: I thought I was. The song was, Oh dude, I
Speaker 1: don't even remember. I mean it was.
Speaker 3: It was a song I wrote with Singleton. We had
Speaker 3: it was like he was our guy that kind of
Speaker 3: helped us get to town.
Speaker 1: So he's unreal.
Speaker 3: He from West Tennessee and so we kind of all
Speaker 3: his band was like our big brother band, and so
Speaker 3: we came up with him and he would occasionally just
Speaker 3: like chunk me or riot once six months, which dude,
Speaker 3: and he was busy. No offense, I mean taking it
Speaker 3: all to any of that.
Speaker 1: It's just how it goes.
Speaker 3: And I said this literally last episode, but he was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 3: I can open the door for what y'all want to do,
Speaker 3: but you've got to kick it down. And that's kind
Speaker 3: of how we got into town.
Speaker 1: That's how you did. And I'll be completely honest and
Speaker 1: a little vulnerable here.
Speaker 2: I think that's that's the reason, like his musical journey
Speaker 2: into Nashville is a reason I deal with imposter syentrum
Speaker 2: so bad, like like in this town, like not feeling
Speaker 2: like I belong here because because being honest, is it
Speaker 2: because I'm so much better or what?
Speaker 5: No you're not, but.
Speaker 2: This something writing songs, and and my dream was to
Speaker 2: always from a young age, was to be on stage
Speaker 2: and and and and be the artist and and and
Speaker 2: sing in front.
Speaker 1: Of crowds and so like your voice is.
Speaker 2: So I moved here with the intention of that and
Speaker 2: fell in love with writing songs and hated the road
Speaker 2: so much that I just quit going on the road
Speaker 2: and decide to write songs.
Speaker 1: But like songwriting.
Speaker 2: This is crazy to say, but like it wasn't my dream,
Speaker 2: you know, like what I'm saying, And it was just
Speaker 2: something I think a little brother it was just something
Speaker 2: that he was doing, and I moved here and was
Speaker 2: good enough and fell in love with it to figure
Speaker 2: out how.
Speaker 1: To do it and make a career of it, you know.
Speaker 2: So, and I feel like, I don't know, I feel
Speaker 2: a little I've always felt a little like I shouldn't
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of the it's kind of the truck.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not how you know what I'm saying, Well,
Speaker 3: apparently it's how you drive.
Speaker 1: What's y'all? What's y'all thing? What y'all say is very similar.
Speaker 1: Like I would not have gotten in the business for
Speaker 1: what absolutely I seemed the pipe dream and when I
Speaker 1: saw him doing it, I was like, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's that natural things like I'm jealous. I want to
Speaker 1: be on that ride with them, you know, and it
Speaker 1: was like whoa. But it was actually, oh, it's not
Speaker 1: this is actually something that is attainable, you know. And
Speaker 1: so he was hugely encouraging because, like you, I mean,
Speaker 1: we grew up since middle school playing in bands together.
Speaker 1: I was, I say, we started music together. Josh played
Speaker 1: do you remember your band names? I love inside or School?
Speaker 1: I was, I was one of the worst ones I've heard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. It was the was the Spoon. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I immediately went to forking or spoon was sorry,
Speaker 1: uh turkey gobbled words. No, but we Josh started playing
Speaker 1: guitar and I was like shoot, and I you know,
Speaker 1: I paid. I was like, this is this is like
Speaker 1: that it might as well be a Rubek's cube. And
Speaker 1: so exactly what happened. And so I started playing drums
Speaker 1: and uh my mom had this whole snare drum and
Speaker 1: so we would literally like pull in pots. One of
Speaker 1: the most I thought, one of the most brilliant mentions
Speaker 1: was I grabbed one of those popcorn tins that has
Speaker 1: like the three different popcorns, three different tones. The Christmas
Speaker 1: the Christmas was saying, so you take all that out.
Speaker 1: And I got the plastic off a trapper keeper. Remember
Speaker 1: like there's things you could slide the paper in thember
Speaker 1: keeper told the plastic off of it, put it over tape,
Speaker 1: and I made up tom and so I had my
Speaker 1: mom's snare. And then we got these plastic there's little
Speaker 1: plastic like plates and I stacked a couple of them
Speaker 1: together and that was my high hat. And so I
Speaker 1: was like we were rocking. And so then like and
Speaker 1: then my mom like saw that, and no, she rented
Speaker 1: her house out for the Masters. She rented her house
Speaker 1: out every year. She took it up and we would
Speaker 1: all have to leave. She and I think she she
Speaker 1: took it apart or threw it away. And then when
Speaker 1: we got back home, we started we were we started crying.
Speaker 1: We were like devastating, and she goes and she just
Speaker 1: disbanded and she's like, get in the car. We're going
Speaker 1: to music store. And she bought me a set of
Speaker 1: drums Josh electric guitar, and I mean, you still got
Speaker 1: the drums to this day I still had the drums.
Speaker 1: Are yeah, amazing that they that's a great story man
Speaker 1: old old yeah, yeah yeah and so but yeah we
Speaker 1: had spork and so I remember told booth Willie one day,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Inside Blue was the third. One
Speaker 1: day I wore the sport necklace. It was the KFC
Speaker 1: sports yep and you put a hole in it or
Speaker 1: the necklace, and I got my fun. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: we were the sports necklace because we played. We played
Speaker 1: like an assembly in like middle school, like we all.
Speaker 1: We played like we will. It was we didn't do
Speaker 1: we Will. His name was Will and Will and we
Speaker 1: were trying to get Will LETTI will rock you to
Speaker 1: come on, We're trying to get Will.
Speaker 11: Will Will.
Speaker 1: You're already. We were so good. I know, were you
Speaker 1: writing songs? Were you were? We did we wrote not
Speaker 1: sport but for instally Yeah, and that was early so
Speaker 1: like well, but it was pretty soon though. Then at
Speaker 1: fourteen we got really good though when we were like
Speaker 1: fifteen and fourteen. Fourteen fourteen is when I is when
Speaker 1: we did. We did a little five song ep. It
Speaker 1: was some guy that was associated with like James Brown's world.
Speaker 1: He had the only studio in town, and so we
Speaker 1: paid him. You know, I can't who knows what it was.
Speaker 1: Couldn't have been more than two grand, Like I wasn't
Speaker 1: even that. I think it was like a thousand. Borrowed
Speaker 1: some money, you know, dad, and all the parents like
Speaker 1: chipped in five hundred bucks. So we record these songs
Speaker 1: and it was suppointed. I was like playing and you know, singing,
Speaker 1: and I realized I was a really mediocre drummer, and
Speaker 1: you were good. You have a good average. But and
Speaker 1: then like all of a sudden, so anyways, all this happens,
Speaker 1: we kind of go in and out of playing some
Speaker 1: some bands in high school, and then Josh goes a
Speaker 1: little miss and all of a sudden, now nowhere he's
Speaker 1: like writing songs and he's like sending me these songs.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. But then I'm like, oh good, no
Speaker 1: beef here. But like he never sings. I was a singer,
Speaker 1: and I was like, when did you learn how to sing?
Speaker 1: Like this is amazing, because I think he was. Also
Speaker 1: it was like it was weird. Josha is a bit
Speaker 1: of a docomic too, where it's like he was like
Speaker 1: knowing him now, you would not have believed that he
Speaker 1: was kind of introverted in like high school, and like
Speaker 1: he just never de said he was gonna sing. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, he goes to college and it's like
Speaker 1: singing and I'm like, and he gets a record deal,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, it took one girl to tell
Speaker 1: me I had a nice voice, that's all. It took
Speaker 1: game over one girl. I think my freshman year. I
Speaker 1: think she was on the girls golf team and I
Speaker 1: was like driving, was driving us both to practice, and
Speaker 1: she was like, I think I was singing like a
Speaker 1: boyis to men song or something, and she was like,
Speaker 1: you ever really uh together at the end of the road.
Speaker 1: Is that wait that yeah? Yeah so good? Yes, great man,
Speaker 1: such a good one. But that's all it takes sometimes
Speaker 1: just one person giving you that confidence. And I remember
Speaker 1: going I was like, I'm glowing. I can sing. And
Speaker 1: then so I left back and I was like, I
Speaker 1: think I'm going to start singing more. And I had
Speaker 1: a little four track task cam tape deck that I
Speaker 1: took with me to college, so I just started moving
Speaker 1: around all the time. And then next thing you know,
Speaker 1: I come back to Augusta and I was writing. I
Speaker 1: was like making songs with somebody else who was recording
Speaker 1: on a computer, and I was like, what you can
Speaker 1: record on a computer? Yeah, I was like I figured
Speaker 1: it out. I was like I basically like extracted all
Speaker 1: his knowledge and all all his tools that he was using,
Speaker 1: and I just put it together when I went back
Speaker 1: to Old Miss and then it was just game over.
Speaker 1: That's all golf, like golf out. Yeah, oh man, it's music. Well,
Speaker 1: he would send me songs to and you know, you're
Speaker 1: like you can tell like you're like, oh, it's great man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then he sent me amazing yeah, which you know,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know that. I just love that,
Speaker 1: like songs like you never know. And that's why I'm
Speaker 1: a big believer in just doing it right, right right,
Speaker 1: because you the minute you think you know, it's like
Speaker 1: you don't know what what's going to capture the you know,
Speaker 1: the world's attention. And man, he sent me that song.
Speaker 1: And I remember I was in college and because you
Speaker 1: were were you, I was at Georgia and I was
Speaker 1: a freshman and I was like, this is unbelievable. And
Speaker 1: I played it for like a buddy and like he
Speaker 1: was like, holy crap, So how did that Explode was
Speaker 1: getting the songs by the way he was getting them
Speaker 1: because I would tell him I would put him on Napster,
Speaker 1: and that's how he and his buddes are getting Because
Speaker 1: I couldn't like email a song back then, I was
Speaker 1: putting it on Napster and I would just I would
Speaker 1: call Charles because there was no text either, and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, dude, get on Napster and look up this
Speaker 1: one song, and he would look it up and then
Speaker 1: he w W. And that's how that's how I was
Speaker 1: sending my music to all my friends. Wow, it's like Napster, man.
Speaker 1: I was in the heat of I was stealing all
Speaker 1: stuff like, oh God, Absol, trust me. This is I mean,
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with something the other day.
Speaker 1: The same thing is going to happen with AI. It's
Speaker 1: not going anywhere, cats out of the backs. How do
Speaker 1: we find a way songwriters to monetize it in a
Speaker 1: way way to where because they're taking essentially all of
Speaker 1: our catalogs of songs in creating algorithms to do this,
Speaker 1: and and it's not going away. We can fight it
Speaker 1: and try to do it, just like ladies try to
Speaker 1: fight napster cas out of back. It's just how can
Speaker 1: we actually find a way now to actually monetize it
Speaker 1: so we don't get into the same thing that's happening
Speaker 1: with Spotify and all that, like, you know, as songwriters.
Speaker 1: But it was very interesting. It was a scary conversation though.
Speaker 1: I was like, I literally the next day wrote a
Speaker 1: song about AI. I was like, this is just silly.
Speaker 1: I just got it out. Well, it's basically I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to see a I create this kind of
Speaker 1: kind of memory, you know, like like us actually speaking,
Speaker 1: and are we ever going to be able to connect
Speaker 1: knowing that it's not from human being, even if it's
Speaker 1: as good to ye it was, But it was like that,
Speaker 1: but it but it freaked me out so much. But
Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, it really is a it's
Speaker 1: an interesting thing. If we don't instead of fight, if
Speaker 1: we don't find some way to at least control it
Speaker 1: into uh temperate, it's going to get out of control.
Speaker 2: We talked about that we uh on who we talk
Speaker 2: to you. I think it's just us on this little
Speaker 2: just Me and You podcast. But like it feels like
Speaker 2: in the music industry where we're at right now is
Speaker 2: kind of a wild West, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying, because you don't.
Speaker 2: We're kind of in between radio and streaming and getting
Speaker 2: paid at one place but not getting paid at the other.
Speaker 2: And but the one place is kind of going away,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of all going this way where there's
Speaker 2: where nobody's getting paid. So it's like to continue songwriters,
Speaker 2: to continue to make a living, and and like it's
Speaker 2: something has to change, something.
Speaker 1: Is going to Darius. I remember Darius Record told me
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, we used to tour to
Speaker 1: promote our record. Now we put out a record purely
Speaker 1: to promote our tour. That's and so it's like, well
Speaker 1: that's great. Us as artists, sure we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: find a way to get money because people still want
Speaker 1: to see the live experience. But as a songwriter, which
Speaker 1: is when I move this town, that's all I wanted
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 12: Really.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, back of the day too, like
Speaker 1: you could have one cut on a you know, a
Speaker 1: Clint Black record, and you were, you were great, you
Speaker 1: probably make you know, a good a good chunk chunk,
Speaker 1: you know, And now you get a cut on a
Speaker 1: you know, a la a record. Hey, man, I'm lucky.
Speaker 1: You're lucky if you're if you you know, if you're
Speaker 1: paying a month's rent on that for sure, And that's sad.
Speaker 1: It's just like you know, it's just not Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's terrifying to be honest with you, because like I
Speaker 3: we we always we use the phrase a lunch pale rider,
Speaker 3: which is what me and reader. We have no desire
Speaker 3: to put out music or to get a record deal.
Speaker 3: I mean, we literally solely come to this town to
Speaker 3: write songs for other people to sing, you know. And
Speaker 3: so when you start talking about a I've had the
Speaker 3: same conversation. I was with a dude the other day,
Speaker 3: matter of fact, and we were talking about a particular
Speaker 3: pitch that we were gonna, you know, go with the tune,
Speaker 3: and I said, well, man, whose voice would sound better
Speaker 3: on it? He's like, it doesn't matter, he said, I'm like, AI,
Speaker 3: this artist's voice in immediately when we're done recording the vocal,
Speaker 3: so he's not gonna know that it's you or me anyway.
Speaker 1: And I was like, are you serious? And he said, Dude,
Speaker 1: the artist that we were sending to, I actually already
Speaker 1: know it. I already know and when I will say it,
Speaker 1: But so what about you? I found about you?
Speaker 3: If somebody goes, oh, this is a lady a pitch
Speaker 3: and they ai all the voices that would be I would.
Speaker 1: Be a little freaked out. Yeah, really be honest with you, yeah,
Speaker 1: like but noted Yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, don't that Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we I mean I would say seventy percent
Speaker 1: of you know, our songs on each record, you know
Speaker 1: even more. I mean like what if I Never Get
Speaker 1: over You was a song that Ryan heard, you know,
Speaker 1: and I immediately like heard, you know, my voice and Ryan's,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh, we could make it
Speaker 1: a duet. And so to me like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think I don't. I don't want to hear like
Speaker 1: I want to, And I also want to hear the
Speaker 1: inflections that the other song whole song, because there's certain
Speaker 1: like movies I wouldn't have done if I wrote that.
Speaker 1: I think you gravitate towards the soul of it more
Speaker 1: than yeah, more than the production. I think a really
Speaker 1: great song can can live if you recorded it on
Speaker 1: your iPhone or a tape deck or a really you know,
Speaker 1: billion dollar studio. I think they're all still a great song.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting. I mean, there's no telling where it's
Speaker 1: where it's going to go. I just I just pray
Speaker 1: that we get ahead of it as an as an
Speaker 1: industry before the same thing just happens, because you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you got to protect like you don't
Speaker 1: want all of a sudden like you know, Elvis's voice
Speaker 1: singing on a rap song. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, but soulless. Yeah, AI is soulless. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing we have going for ourselves. Tell us
Speaker 1: your theory. I want to hear your theory. Well, here's
Speaker 1: my theory. It's like we as as writers, I think
Speaker 1: that that we need to change our algorithm and our
Speaker 1: structure to how we write songs. We've been we've been
Speaker 1: stuck in this little, this little world where it's like
Speaker 1: verse pre course course, verse pre course course, bridge and
Speaker 1: then breakdown of course. And it's like, let's get away
Speaker 1: from that. And I started, and I started trying recently
Speaker 1: with a song. I have a song coming out called
Speaker 1: hard Hat, and it is by Are. It doesn't live
Speaker 1: in any structure. It's like a I don't even know
Speaker 1: what you call it. It's like a it's like a Broadway.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, it's a movement and
Speaker 1: it made me, well, no, it changed my brain. I think.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things. It's like that
Speaker 1: I needed to get out of the algorithm that I
Speaker 1: was using every single day because it wasn't inspiring me anymore.
Speaker 1: And also my friends are sending me AI songs that
Speaker 1: like they would type in like their Hatred of Mayonnaise
Speaker 1: and send me a song that a I wrote about
Speaker 1: manaise and it was brilliant but it sounded really cool,
Speaker 1: but which is terrifying. But it's also soulless. And I
Speaker 1: think that I think we as humans can tell when
Speaker 1: something doesn't have a soul. I can just feel it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like you, you know,
Speaker 1: you have that little gut feeling for a reason, and
Speaker 1: hardly anybody ever trust it, but we should probably trust it,
Speaker 1: like immediately all the time. I could just tell when
Speaker 1: something is AI because it just feels soulless. I think
Speaker 1: we have a job to be better.
Speaker 2: I was probably I think I just started driving, and
Speaker 2: so I was sixteen, fifteen sixteen, and I had a
Speaker 2: hand me down a Suzi Rodeo like a ninety six
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 1: What it was?
Speaker 2: That thing was sick and the first time I got uh,
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess I picked up the Jordan cla
Speaker 2: ep and well, we're gonna do it in a second.
Speaker 2: But I remember, I just I just got Hearty's Breakfast
Speaker 2: and I pulled through and it's the first time I
Speaker 2: ever heard of Naiy Moon.
Speaker 1: And I told you this. I pulled over in a
Speaker 1: parking spot and I was crying in a.
Speaker 8: Hearty parking lot eating my sausage.
Speaker 1: And cheese biscuits. I was like, I was like, this
Speaker 1: is beautiful that song. And now what Nally's sixteen about
Speaker 1: to be?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she was a sweet baby angel. Then due,
Speaker 1: come on, you did wild? Actually Josh hit his wildest
Speaker 1: speak at fifteen. Yeah, he's a creative. It was bro Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. I actually told Katie about all the stuff
Speaker 1: that I was getting into when I was fourteen, and
Speaker 1: she was like, I don't think I can look at
Speaker 1: you anymore. I don't know. I was curious, Like I said,
Speaker 1: Josh goes in phases was my favorite. I had a
Speaker 1: beard when I was like thirteen, so they everybody thought
Speaker 1: I was older.
Speaker 3: My dad always said that like my sister came out.
Speaker 3: She was so clean and beautiful and had this little nose,
Speaker 3: you know, And she said, and then Dan was born.
Speaker 3: I remember my dad say, and then Dan was born,
Speaker 3: and he come out looking for a sandwich and needing
Speaker 3: to shave.
Speaker 1: My favorite uh song of yours was uh oh, Georgia.
Speaker 2: Charles and I wrote that together the credits yesterday, and
Speaker 2: I was like with Lagerberg, he was, I love Clenn.
Speaker 1: That's great, Come on, man, give us a little Only
Speaker 1: one of my friends with a fake made me in
Speaker 1: the hometown celebrity used to put her in parking a
Speaker 1: bacon a lot started with a second name. You can't
Speaker 1: believe we devil got what I can't do.
Speaker 12: The loves there didn't love the living found night just
Speaker 12: trying to steal gets some child game.
Speaker 5: Down ride, good old days on battle Shoe.
Speaker 6: Just like that, Georgia Clay, you give the first verse, Oh.
Speaker 1: Funny, how something.
Speaker 5: Yank you back.
Speaker 1: A year and now just faced you like.
Speaker 5: The little dude, just time for that time.
Speaker 8: But she.
Speaker 6: Mane, it hits me.
Speaker 1: It's ten years old, running owns.
Speaker 5: It's been the whole damn summer living them that chuck
Speaker 5: come on them all.
Speaker 8: Times to covering in all and b.
Speaker 1: I can stay expending me and my bo there time
Speaker 1: more time when that was nothing then then just trying to.
Speaker 10: Steal up kids on the same game out around good
Speaker 10: old days on sure way, just let that Joe claz.
Speaker 5: All over everything, every last.
Speaker 8: Of me come on and it's out coming back to me.
Speaker 1: Who can I tell you about that second first though,
Speaker 1: that second versus total bullshit because we I didn't need
Speaker 1: a fake ID at all anything. I looked like I
Speaker 1: was twenty seven. Yeah, when I was like sixteen and
Speaker 1: we would go to that place and I would always
Speaker 1: have to go. I wrote with you, I was the
Speaker 1: first mona my friends. That's right, this is zact pretty
Speaker 1: mess up. Before I could drive, I was fifteen years old.
Speaker 1: I had a fake idea. I just started do it.
Speaker 1: I just started drinking at fifteen. And again I'm sober
Speaker 1: now there's a reason. But I but I had a
Speaker 1: fake idea. And what was his name Brennan something, Brennan,
Speaker 1: John Brennan or something. I still remember this day. But
Speaker 1: like I would stick, you know, you stuck a picture
Speaker 1: and it was this other guy's idea. I just stuck
Speaker 1: a picture there and I had to keep it though
Speaker 1: in a wallet with the Classic because if you pulled
Speaker 1: it out you could feel though. There was this one
Speaker 1: gas station that we all went into and they were
Speaker 1: just like, yep, looks good to me. Yeah, I mean fifteen,
Speaker 1: I remember that guy. He didn't give a ship man.
Speaker 1: He was if you walk in with confidence and you
Speaker 1: have a black beard, it's your good boons farm drinking them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Charles was like Charles, and it would be Charles and
Speaker 1: Ryan Neville and Matt Weaver. They were all be in
Speaker 1: the car and they'd be like, is it going to
Speaker 1: be able to do it? And I was like, I
Speaker 1: can do it. Yeah, I still to all.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was that was them coming back and they were
Speaker 1: like literally like kids, like glued to the window and
Speaker 1: they're like, did you get it? He's got it? Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, natty light, let's go. Never nothing
Speaker 1: will ever be more fun than when you first start.
Speaker 1: I actually got to that point too. It's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons, honestly, I think it was easy for me
Speaker 1: to stop drinking because it wasn't fun anymore. Like I
Speaker 1: still like remember like how exciting the whole thing, and
Speaker 1: it kind of becomes to this thing. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: once you can do something, it's not now, it's fun. Honestly.
Speaker 1: You know, every year Katie and I do sober October
Speaker 1: and and and every single year that we do it,
Speaker 1: I wake up in the morning, I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: how we should lift. This is how this is amazing.
Speaker 1: This is how normal people feel in the morning. They feel.
Speaker 1: Look how much energy I have. I could do anything
Speaker 1: right now. Look how clear my brain is. This is incredible, Babe,
Speaker 1: watch this. It's like, how do you do cart will?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Seriously, I feel like I feel so good by the
Speaker 1: way you look like you. I've lost twenty pounds. You
Speaker 1: you got you gotta notice in your face it needed to.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I redefined my nature with drinking. I mean,
Speaker 1: every now and then, you know, we'll do it. But Katie,
Speaker 1: Katie is also the same way she starts. She's like
Speaker 1: made these concoctions they're called shrubs, where she takes like
Speaker 1: fruit and you put all this sugar on top and
Speaker 1: it a masser rates all the liquid comes down to
Speaker 1: the bottom and then she adds like apple cider vinegar
Speaker 1: to it. And if you get like what a sparkling
Speaker 1: water and then you pour that disgust. You know, it's
Speaker 1: so good. You just put a little bit in and
Speaker 1: it feels like something apple side of apple side or
Speaker 1: vinegar is supposed to be like the greatest in our world.
Speaker 1: Is disgusting. But I would do like I remember getting
Speaker 1: on this like kick where I take a shot in
Speaker 1: the morning. Yeah, that's one of the most burnt. Like
Speaker 1: that's the worst taste of the entire It should for
Speaker 1: your gut microbiome. It's it. It starts to heal your microbiome.
Speaker 1: Promote like you know what I've been doing, that's saying,
Speaker 1: hang on. My son know about that? He's such you
Speaker 1: know what's really changed my life is warm plunging. Quit
Speaker 1: talking about this. Yeah this is remade. This jokes so much. Well,
Speaker 1: you just walk outside.
Speaker 3: When you have a cool morning and you hang out
Speaker 3: there for twenty minutes, take some deep breaths in and
Speaker 3: then come in hot shower. I pop out, do revitalized,
Speaker 3: feel great man. Warm plunging, warm plunge.
Speaker 5: I like this.
Speaker 1: I think this is this is where we're it's the
Speaker 1: new trend. Yeah. I think cold plunging it's like Viking soaking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just get like a maybe like a hot
Speaker 3: tub or maybe you use your own bathtub and if
Speaker 3: you don't, you just take a warm shower, you know,
Speaker 3: but warm plunging has really changed my line trailer parks soak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, let's talk about Uh you've recently become obsessed
Speaker 2: with a bone of it.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I am so obsessed. Yes, throughout the summer,
Speaker 1: KSL I found it and I text him probably every other.
Speaker 2: Day throughout the summer. We would he would text me pictures.
Speaker 2: He'd be like, dude, just sixty yards story.
Speaker 1: Trad or what are we doing here? What trad bows
Speaker 1: or compounds? Compound compound? Picture? Like, bro, your form?
Speaker 3: I was thinking, I feel like we have like a
Speaker 3: hunting handicap, Like what's your hunting you know, if you're
Speaker 3: if your golf handicap like you were saying five or whatever.
Speaker 2: Three I'm a plus four, I'm a plus four. Then
Speaker 2: what am I a plus twenty? Now you're like a
Speaker 2: plus two?
Speaker 1: Look at these brothers. This is so it might be
Speaker 1: a great segue into a little more competent Do we
Speaker 1: wanna do we wanna? Do we want to compare?
Speaker 3: I mean that's from New Zealand. So you just whatever
Speaker 3: you want to do, man, Yeah, whatever, man, I mean
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure you're pretty sure I shot that turkey
Speaker 3: and that guy.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean as far as just not going to put
Speaker 1: that here next to that, we can also just go
Speaker 1: get plaques. Well, you know what's gonna do is uh
Speaker 1: he's coming back up to Utah where about two hundred head.
Speaker 3: He said property, he said, he about him tall trip
Speaker 3: where the drone drops you lunch into the middle.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's good because I know he knows that
Speaker 1: this time. I've got no patience. I really don't. But
Speaker 1: Josh though, it's so funny. I mean every year, every
Speaker 1: year he's got a new thing, like, you know, the leather,
Speaker 1: and I'm still show the bag to the viewers. Dude,
Speaker 1: I will post a picture of my my son's room. Josh.
Speaker 2: Josh made us. Josh made Oak my little boy. He
Speaker 2: made him a leather that buck patch.
Speaker 5: I get.
Speaker 2: I go in Oaks room, I look at that and
Speaker 2: I'm I'm just like, it's amazing to me how good
Speaker 2: that thing is.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you first of all, and also secondly, it
Speaker 1: has a value. Now I did my first art show
Speaker 1: and the uh the fox and the mountain goat sold
Speaker 1: and these are these extreme embossed things, just like if
Speaker 1: I tell people it's like one piece of leather and
Speaker 1: and I found this way of like when you get
Speaker 1: the leather wet, you can push it out from the
Speaker 1: back and then you can start making a freedomenion. This
Speaker 1: thing is incredible. The mountain goes ten grand. Now I
Speaker 1: have a value and I'm like, yeah, you can put it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: son named Buck, Okay, Like, how do I don't have
Speaker 1: a b I'll do I'll make Josh Josh. I mean
Speaker 1: like he's he's been so general. It's like someone I
Speaker 1: love the belt, and I like, literally, I've got a
Speaker 1: belt and and I think you've made something that I
Speaker 1: can't remember. It's like Darius or Darius wanted at belt
Speaker 1: and I was like and like, you know, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I love it, I mean honestly, and if you it
Speaker 1: actually keeps me from drinking at night. But I will
Speaker 1: say that's it's very helpful because you cannot like it's
Speaker 1: probably five hundred thousand individual little hits when you're tooling leather.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know how many hours you put, like
Speaker 1: how much how many hours is I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean the saddle took a month because you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: because all the tooling, you know. But I mean I
Speaker 1: don't know. I meanely no, like you you know, a
Speaker 1: month of making one thing with my hands. I will
Speaker 1: say that. He told me. She was like, if you
Speaker 1: make another saddle, I'm divorcing it. Yeah, because because I
Speaker 1: wasn't available to go in there and watch like Love
Speaker 1: Island and all that. Have y'all seen that bullshit? No,
Speaker 1: if never I said this last night in the show,
Speaker 1: I said, if mom caught me thirty years ago watching
Speaker 1: Love Island, I would have been grounded for a month.
Speaker 1: And then thirty years later, I'm like, kids, go make
Speaker 1: some popcorn. We're gonna watch. I mean, it's like I
Speaker 1: call it Grinder Island. I'm like, what is this show?
Speaker 1: And how is it legal?
Speaker 5: You say that?
Speaker 1: But do you remember when we were young, like MTV
Speaker 1: spring Break? I remember was there was one year it
Speaker 1: has nothing baby suit from here. Yeah, it's like one
Speaker 1: thing and it went here and there, and I remember
Speaker 1: being like fourteen years old. It was like you know,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's like, all right, get
Speaker 1: off the tv, you two, we're ready for you know,
Speaker 1: it's like we get it, Pearl Jam, where's the spring,
Speaker 1: bring your break, Let's get When we first started writing,
Speaker 1: like singing songs together and we were obsessed with pearl Jam. John,
Speaker 1: our older brother, still has like our little like clock
Speaker 1: radio work tapes and it's like me and John playing
Speaker 1: guitar and Charles going.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 1: I was very like, you know, we played a lot
Speaker 1: of cover songs, so it was like one one song.
Speaker 1: I really when I first started actually decided I want
Speaker 1: to do this as an artists. I had to find
Speaker 1: what was my voice, what was my true authentic voice,
Speaker 1: And because I like literally cover bands, it was like
Speaker 1: one second you're going all and the next one you're
Speaker 1: going jeromy. And honestly, it wasn't until I would say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like a Bob Seger song and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: that's my voice because it didn't hurt either, and it
Speaker 1: was like, you know, you sit there like uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you know on the mad moves. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that feels like me, but like, dude, I literally, I
Speaker 1: mean I was sitting there trying to do my cheesiest
Speaker 1: you know, like it just wasn't authentic.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 1: We remember that record we made when I when I
Speaker 1: when I bought the house in Franklin and we were
Speaker 1: making like Charles made like a like a soulful sort
Speaker 1: of maroon fibers shrip and it was really really good.
Speaker 1: I was like, Ben, But but when I came back
Speaker 1: home and also discovered when you discovered that gravel, I
Speaker 1: remember going it was loved and live here, it was
Speaker 1: I was like and I was like I was there,
Speaker 1: you know, but I but but I say that to
Speaker 1: encourage like other people, because it's like I think we
Speaker 1: all I definitely playing in cover bands fell into this
Speaker 1: thing where it's like it's cool to do cover songs,
Speaker 1: but don't try to sound like that guy. You know.
Speaker 1: He's also just like do it with your But I
Speaker 1: think you have to do it to learn. You got
Speaker 1: to do it to kind of figure out like when
Speaker 1: you got to find it, Yeah, what fits you and
Speaker 1: then like what speaks to your soul? And when you
Speaker 1: found that gravel, it actually was what you did, is
Speaker 1: you circled back to the beginning. Yeah, because you used
Speaker 1: to do because it was very mustang like, because that
Speaker 1: was the voice. You know, we're we're literally when we
Speaker 1: were inside Blue it was the voice man, I think,
Speaker 1: but but it is. It's funny because don't you think
Speaker 1: that we I actually still have the masters for that,
Speaker 1: and I found them the other day and I put
Speaker 1: them on my drop box because I'm like, Okay, now
Speaker 1: they can live forever. Yeah, it's actually Hiller wreck. It's
Speaker 1: kind of cool. We didn't really know anything about structure.
Speaker 1: James James Brown wanted to sign us, and his manager
Speaker 1: came in and then they was late Friday, and we
Speaker 1: all had to like sit there and he was like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make you big stars. And he was like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have your city release part of New York,
Speaker 1: have all the finest girls, and I will never forget it.
Speaker 11: We were jazz.
Speaker 1: We were jazzed, and all of the parents were like no, no, no.
Speaker 1: We were so mad at our parents. They were like,
Speaker 1: you're not You're not going anywhere. Those guys. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It was like whatever did you Well? It wasn't Friday,
Speaker 1: but I did get to talk to James and I
Speaker 1: used to play with his band, had a side project
Speaker 1: called Firstborn, and I used to tell my mom that
Speaker 1: I was going to play for Young Life and what
Speaker 1: I was really doing is going downtown. And I was
Speaker 1: the only white boy in this little band called uh yeah,
Speaker 1: first Born, and I was just playing all the chicken
Speaker 1: chickens changing changing, Oh yeah, and I learned it was
Speaker 1: like going to like like deep Pocket boot Camp. I
Speaker 1: mean those they were the sickest players I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in my life. Still, it's been a minute. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to help me anyway, ye sorry, yeah, yeah, God he's.
Speaker 5: Been called in my good Stone, in my Chicks and time.
Speaker 4: Oh bad?
Speaker 5: What is gone?
Speaker 4: But I'm moving.
Speaker 1: You don't.
Speaker 5: Like you did before? Oh well, cursial.
Speaker 1: Name still not chorus. See you think we used to
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah, yeah, this is an interesting thing. There's
Speaker 1: another verse after that, oh so well segues into something
Speaker 1: that that song. So we recorded that song and talk
Speaker 1: about not really you know, we were new to town,
Speaker 1: not really knowing the structure of a song. It was
Speaker 1: a minute and a half before the first because we
Speaker 1: had two verses, really like two long verses. And see,
Speaker 1: now I know better than to do that, but that's
Speaker 1: what makes it cool. But I'm saying, but you you
Speaker 1: have to almost like try to forget.
Speaker 5: All that you learn.
Speaker 1: But I remember our promotion staff was like, but like,
Speaker 1: you can't have a song where the course takes it
Speaker 1: takes too long, and and it has two choruses and
Speaker 1: then an outra, so and you have three courses. No,
Speaker 1: no bridger. In my brain, I was going, what's the court?
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember the court? Me too, me too, new
Speaker 1: guy ner too lots riding thing was fine and shows again,
Speaker 1: then back to this, the back the no, actually no,
Speaker 1: I've been doing five.
Speaker 8: Getting love.
Speaker 1: But it was so fast, Yeah, fun thing, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what was so charming about It was
Speaker 1: so great. Back in the day there was there was
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of structure to a lot of
Speaker 1: their songs. It just sounded so cool. There was a feeling.
Speaker 1: And I remember when I got back to Nashville and
Speaker 1: you played me that yeah, and I was like, boys,
Speaker 1: what's a similar to what's a similar thing? Like? When
Speaker 1: you sent like amazing because I didn't know it was.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was as good or worse
Speaker 1: than other stuff we've been writing. But when you started
Speaker 1: getting the reaction. I remember playing it for like your band,
Speaker 1: the guys in your band, Slim who's now been with
Speaker 1: our band, playing with us forever, the guy the Braids
Speaker 1: awesome and uh but I remember them being like, whoa,
Speaker 1: there's and it was like, all right, now I got
Speaker 1: a direction, you know, and Hillary and Dave it was
Speaker 1: like we had a sound, but like you kind of
Speaker 1: have to find it. Man. It's like all these artists.
Speaker 1: That's what's so scary too about some of these artists,
Speaker 1: just like awesome, you get this like viral hit and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, yeah, I've never performed in front of someone.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, here go open up for freaking Morgan
Speaker 1: Wallen in front of fifty thousand people have never been
Speaker 1: on stage before, but they'll learn, you know. Most of
Speaker 1: it's like you know, yes, years remember when that happened
Speaker 1: to me. You came on that tour. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: also though I'm saying that you had years of grinding
Speaker 1: in these you know the tool now. But I was
Speaker 1: playing like acoustics shows in front of people called the
Speaker 1: Sneaky Teky and then next thing, you know, Dave Matthews
Speaker 1: and I was like, I mean, I was like, there
Speaker 1: is a difference between a big stage. How do you
Speaker 1: cover a giants? I mean I got three people, you know,
Speaker 1: running around there, and I still feel like I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, you like a solo ars just stuff there
Speaker 1: trying to close Giant. Yeah, it was wild. That was
Speaker 1: fun though Charles came on that tour being we had
Speaker 1: the most fun. I mean, it was made me want
Speaker 1: to do it. It was crazy and also like, did
Speaker 1: amazing get you there? Did That's amazing? Was getting actually
Speaker 1: amazing wasn't hit yet. It was my producer, John Laysia
Speaker 1: had had produced all the Dave Matthew stuff and I
Speaker 1: I wore him out until he made it happen. I
Speaker 1: mean I just wore him out. I just kept calling
Speaker 1: and I was like, if you called him yet, if
Speaker 1: you called him yet, and and finally he goes, hey, man,
Speaker 1: Dave's going to give you a week whatever. And it
Speaker 1: was like two thousand and three and I went in
Speaker 1: the gorge Yeah, yeah, gorgeous, and I was Josh was
Speaker 1: like to say, this is summer. I got Charles on stage.
Speaker 5: He did.
Speaker 1: He would get me on stage the same one, which
Speaker 1: like it was he had a short little set and
Speaker 1: it was like the fact that you even did that,
Speaker 1: that's what brother. He did the same thing with me.
Speaker 1: But like but but what was wild during that time,
Speaker 1: like it was summer break and like I come out
Speaker 1: there and Josh like, well, you come out here, but
Speaker 1: you know you got to help out. I would go
Speaker 1: out and I would have just gotten up on stage
Speaker 1: sing a little songs and then I go creep the audi. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were like, oh you're that guy. Those things.
Speaker 10: Come on.
Speaker 8: And I was supposed to be helping, like love.
Speaker 1: Help, just literally from freaking sun up till Zundal was drinking.
Speaker 1: I had my one time to shine? How many stories
Speaker 1: can we tell? You know? Maybe I shouldn't know, don't go,
Speaker 1: don't go too dasty. I won't, but I would, but
Speaker 1: I definitely though, like it was wild time, you know,
Speaker 1: like just to watch him do this and like he's
Speaker 1: living a dream and I'm like, gosh, man, Like I
Speaker 1: remember even thinking. I was like maybe I need to
Speaker 1: start picking the drums up again. Maybe I can be
Speaker 1: his drummer, you know. Yeah. So it was just a
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting thing, but he encouraged me.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: I had graduated from Georgia and then worked for my
Speaker 1: oldest brother John of WinCE Salem and I call it Josh.
Speaker 1: One time, I was like, man, I'm just so unhappy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, something's missing, something's wrong, and he was like,
Speaker 1: you got to move to Nashville. So Josh I bought
Speaker 1: that house and I bought the house in Nashville. And
Speaker 1: when Charles said, he was like, you know, I think,
Speaker 1: I said, I'd love for you to come live with me.
Speaker 1: I want you to come out here. And we've been,
Speaker 1: we've been. We're Irish twins. We did everything together as kids,
Speaker 1: and so I missed you, you know, I wanted you
Speaker 1: to be around me, and so it was really fun.
Speaker 1: But I'd also been waiting for years for him to
Speaker 1: actually say, like, I think I want to do music.
Speaker 1: I was like, if there was anybody that I in
Speaker 1: my short time on the earth at that point who
Speaker 1: I was like should be doing music and should be singing,
Speaker 1: it was my little brother. And it always felt weird
Speaker 1: that he wasn't. And then when I think, when you came,
Speaker 1: you had a finance job or something, yeah, and so
Speaker 1: you were doing that, and then we would just like
Speaker 1: I didn't even have the job. I was going through
Speaker 1: like training where they pay you to like train for
Speaker 1: like two months, and I already had known that I
Speaker 1: was like going I was needed like two months of
Speaker 1: money yeah, baby, and like I get the other trade
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, by the way, I'm out, that's eerily.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, man, I'm so nuts.
Speaker 2: I felt physics twice at ut Knoxville, and I was
Speaker 2: up there solely because of a girl thinking I was
Speaker 2: gonna be an an eye doctor. And I felt physics twice.
Speaker 2: And she called me and I was at his show
Speaker 2: in tu Plo on Main Street and uh, I.
Speaker 1: Write that, by the way, because of a girl, that's all.
Speaker 1: Just cut that out.
Speaker 2: We'll put that on our phones because I don't want
Speaker 2: anybody else here in that. And uh I broke up
Speaker 2: with her on the phone.
Speaker 1: She told me I was fell physics one and I
Speaker 1: was like, She's like, what are you gonna do? You know,
Speaker 1: you get in to med school. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: moving to Nashville and she was like, well, what does
Speaker 1: that mean for us? I was like, yeah, we're over.
Speaker 1: And he was literally mid through verse chorus of a
Speaker 1: song and I roll. I got in. I squeezed through
Speaker 1: everybody and I got to the front.
Speaker 4: I was like, I felt physics again and he was
Speaker 4: like I was like what I was like? And I
Speaker 4: broke up with my girlfriend.
Speaker 1: He was like cool. I was like, I'm moving to Nashville, literally,
Speaker 1: and that was to figure it out.
Speaker 3: I moved to Nashville and here I got him. I
Speaker 3: mean I didn't get him. But it's not like there
Speaker 3: was a position that you had to apply for. But
Speaker 3: he worked for the same uh.
Speaker 1: Movie company that I moved furniture with house for four years.
Speaker 1: We slugged it out, man for a while. And but
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: But it's it's the same thing, man, Like, if there
Speaker 2: was anybody I was gonna and it's been like that
Speaker 2: our whole lives man like.
Speaker 3: But but as a as a bigger, older brother, you
Speaker 3: do have to get to a place to where you
Speaker 3: can help. And that was the thing like for me
Speaker 3: and read it was like, dude, I wasn't even proven yet,
Speaker 3: nobody cared what I had to say or or or
Speaker 3: or cared what what I thought. Yeah, you know, And
Speaker 3: so as I was like trying to spearhead this thing in,
Speaker 3: I was calling him going, hey, man, you can do this, man,
Speaker 3: Like you're the sing I'm not even the singer. You're
Speaker 3: the singer.
Speaker 1: Dude, get up here and do this. Man, you can
Speaker 1: do this. You just got to make it just makes sense.
Speaker 1: You know, when you know someone is for sure good
Speaker 1: it's singing, and you you also have to have a
Speaker 1: personality about you, you know, like but but I mean
Speaker 1: it just made sense and I was I was like,
Speaker 1: I just knew it was going to work. Actually, I
Speaker 1: feel really bad for the people. Remember around was pitching
Speaker 1: Lady A and I had a little folder and I've
Speaker 1: done a photo shoot for you guys, and I was
Speaker 1: pitching them to like different management companies. Man, I wonder
Speaker 1: how terrible it was right now. I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: I did have one of them come up to me
Speaker 1: like years and years ago and be like, you mean
Speaker 1: the guys that yeah, the guys that said that like
Speaker 1: the pass on it, and they were like they literally
Speaker 1: were like, think, I like everything for reason. I mean
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for us getting you know, we had
Speaker 1: Gary Boorman who was who is still is Keith Urban's
Speaker 1: you know manager, and and they you know, they had
Speaker 1: they and then they you know obviously was with capital.
Speaker 1: So it's like everything has for reason, And I mean,
Speaker 1: thank god that you are. You didn't know what Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you never know. I mean maybe would have maybe
Speaker 1: it wouldn't. But like I feel like everything kind of
Speaker 1: falls into place how it should. But I think all
Speaker 1: the time, like if I had never convinced Dave somehow
Speaker 1: moving down to Nashville, he was He was the big
Speaker 1: missing piece for me too, because Josh was so busy.
Speaker 1: Josh was gone, and I think if Josh wasn't so busy,
Speaker 1: who knows, we might have been doing something to this day,
Speaker 1: like you know, and it's something would have you know?
Speaker 1: And then I ran into Hillary and she was it
Speaker 1: was like, you're probably have the best female tone I've
Speaker 1: ever heard, and it was like everything happened so cute.
Speaker 1: But you never know. I mean, maybe I would have
Speaker 1: it might have taken a lot longer. Maybe I would
Speaker 1: have grinded out song right. There's just you never people
Speaker 1: know that Dave was and went to high school with us,
Speaker 1: to people know that we grew up. He was in
Speaker 1: the jazz band with me. Yeah, we used to skip
Speaker 1: lunch and we would like wolf lunch down and we
Speaker 1: would go jam. He played for that. He played for
Speaker 1: the Young Life that you skipped to go play with
Speaker 1: James Brown. Yeah. No, I still would play for the
Speaker 1: Young Life every now and then because they were take
Speaker 1: you on really cool ski trips. Now you had to
Speaker 1: do it like totally. You didn't have to sing, you
Speaker 1: just had to play the songs. And I would just look,
Speaker 1: I've just flipped the chord charts over. But but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Dave was we were to He's so talented, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's awesome surrounded by talents. Why because I'm always like,
Speaker 1: I've had all these years where I'm like, I should
Speaker 1: get better guitar, i should I should learn to play
Speaker 1: pan and I'm like, yeah, but I'm surrounded by one
Speaker 1: of the best musicians, and Josh is one of the
Speaker 1: best music No. I will tell you this though I
Speaker 1: don't know if people know this that I need you now.
Speaker 1: Is is a song because you because you had taught
Speaker 1: me the way you play guitar.
Speaker 7: And so he know that.
Speaker 1: I just like he was just peddling these chords, and
Speaker 1: so what's cool about it is that you know, like
Speaker 1: what it really is more and and that would have
Speaker 1: never been the same song if you if you had
Speaker 1: not been played the way you played. He had taught
Speaker 1: me a couple because I knew some of the basic ones,
Speaker 1: and he had taught me, you know, a couple of
Speaker 1: little things, and I had all I had was and
Speaker 1: I walked in that day. I was like, picture, but man,
Speaker 1: he's got it around the floor.
Speaker 6: And I wonder if I ever called your mind?
Speaker 1: And then that was really all I had, but then
Speaker 1: I passed it, but I'll do it.
Speaker 12: That was Josh.
Speaker 1: That was Josh here right there. I love that guy.
Speaker 1: I write a lot with him. Man wrote with him yesterday.
Speaker 1: He's one of the best. Amazing. Yeah, we know if
Speaker 1: he was back from his summer heatus, he is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: We've been like chasing all kinds of fun stuff. We're like,
Speaker 1: I mean just I don't know, almost like you were saying,
Speaker 1: just trying to get out of the formula. And I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I grew up being obsessed with like eighties,
Speaker 1: I said, Brian out, I said, can we just start writing?
Speaker 1: Brian and Richard Marks to freaking like, give me some
Speaker 1: weird chords. Yeah, d Richard Bark story he came to art.
Speaker 1: We did a Vegas residency at the Palms and he
Speaker 1: came and I mean unbelievable, and he sang that song
Speaker 1: and I got this picture that I got on my
Speaker 1: wall of me and I just thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: And I out on the floor and I did well
Speaker 1: he was thinking, right, he still has. I wrote with
Speaker 1: him back in like like two thousand and four and
Speaker 1: it was surreal, and went to his house and he
Speaker 1: writes like two big old number ones for Keith Urban.
Speaker 1: Oh right, I didn't know that. He's amazing man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's wild. What a wildlife? What does life look like
Speaker 1: for for you? Now? Are y'all y'all on the road?
Speaker 1: Are you writing more? We're we're working on a you know,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of been working on Lady a record and
Speaker 1: even kind of like toying with maybe sometime because like
Speaker 1: it's been about eight years since I've done a solo record,
Speaker 1: The Driver that we were about twenty sixteen, but to
Speaker 1: go and so, you know, it's uh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's might maybe if it comes out
Speaker 1: of Mount Lady is always gonna be my main focus
Speaker 1: is you all got family? You need to do this
Speaker 1: eighties record. I'm definitely kind of like toying with. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it's going to be. I need to
Speaker 1: find the hero songs. But like, so that's been fun.
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like we're at a spot now.
Speaker 1: We've been a ban now seventeen eighteen years it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we know we're not ever going to be
Speaker 1: the new hot, big thing. We've had that moment, and
Speaker 1: like for me now it's about really enjoying the process
Speaker 1: and not so much the outcommon but you know, knowing
Speaker 1: we still have got a great fan base. We go
Speaker 1: to these shows and you know, I still there's something
Speaker 1: my gut that still wants another big, big, a big
Speaker 1: a big song, a big moment yeah for the band,
Speaker 1: And you know, from a personal like if I did
Speaker 1: a solo record, be more just like feed the soul man,
Speaker 1: and if it if it somehow gets some ears, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't demand it like I used
Speaker 1: to demand it. Sure, Like I used to would be
Speaker 1: like if something was a success, oh it must have
Speaker 1: not been good enough, and it's like, well no, some
Speaker 1: something's sometimes it's time and it's all these different things.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's just growing up and
Speaker 1: you you know, priorities changed. But I don't know. I
Speaker 1: feel like too, man, I've been in a place where,
Speaker 1: like especially going through this sobriety, that I've been a
Speaker 1: good sounding board for a lot of other artists, especially
Speaker 1: a lot of younger artists. Yeah, and you know I
Speaker 1: got artists too that that are kind of going through that.
Speaker 1: I would call it the mid level career, Yeah, trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out, just being like, you know, that
Speaker 1: like crisis of like gosh, we're not the new you know,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like that's what it happens, and
Speaker 1: everyone's hitting it now, they're gonna go like it. I've
Speaker 1: seen it for the past eighteen years, Like a sound
Speaker 1: comes in, takes over, and then it's on something else,
Speaker 1: and it's like you're constantly, you know, absolutely just chasing something.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, the minute you can just step
Speaker 1: back and enjoy and appreciate too that we're getting to
Speaker 1: do this. Yeah. So that's really been a big part
Speaker 1: of where I'm at. It's just enjoying it and balance. Man,
Speaker 1: trying to you know, be more present with my wife,
Speaker 1: be way more present with my boy, my friend's family.
Speaker 1: But but man, there that workaholic thing though, is still
Speaker 1: deep in me. Man. I'm still you know, I try
Speaker 1: to like put it in person. I can't stop. I
Speaker 1: still like there's a song out there I'm freaking chasing, sure,
Speaker 1: and there's something out there that my wife asked me
Speaker 1: that the other day she goes what motivates you and
Speaker 1: was like, that's a really tough question. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm so fearful of not finding a song that's just
Speaker 1: waiting for me if I don't go chase it. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what my mother in law says all the time,
Speaker 1: She says, the winds of grace are all around you.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is lift your sales. And
Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're constantly lifting your sales to
Speaker 1: catch that. Because I think, I think ideas and things
Speaker 1: are all around us all the time, bro and energy
Speaker 1: and whatever, you know, And I think that if you know,
Speaker 1: if you're not open to it or then you're not
Speaker 1: going to get it. That's why I'm like, it's have
Speaker 1: you ever seen that thing where some of the most
Speaker 1: influential inventions ever are the same one? No, the same
Speaker 1: ones have been filed the same day on theosite sides
Speaker 1: of the world. Absolutely, And that crazy, literally the same day,
Speaker 1: same exact invention gone a file for patent on the
Speaker 1: on the exact same day from the other end of
Speaker 1: the world. And and I think that that that tells
Speaker 1: me everything. You know that I think that I think
Speaker 1: inspiration and ideas. You know, I don't know if they
Speaker 1: all come from here. I think they the world. Have
Speaker 1: you ever read the World of Art? No, that's what
Speaker 1: he says.
Speaker 2: He said, He said he believes that that the ideas,
Speaker 2: and he's talking about creative ideas and inspirations are are
Speaker 2: like a ticker that are going above you and it's.
Speaker 1: Just it's whatever. It's whatever.
Speaker 2: When you get in that creative moment, when you're when
Speaker 2: you're having those inspirations, it's you're what you're grabbing right here,
Speaker 2: you know, and bringing that down and and Mozart grabbed
Speaker 2: you know, like that piece that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have songs that I have have I
Speaker 1: had no business writing. I don't even know where they
Speaker 1: came from. Even the chords. I'm like, I never played
Speaker 1: those chords in my life, like busy making busy making
Speaker 1: memories that thing, and it's it's not my best song
Speaker 1: in the world, but it it came out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: and it is not a melody that I've ever sang
Speaker 1: or chord structure I've ever sang. And I'm like, where
Speaker 1: did that? Where did that come from? I wrote it
Speaker 1: wrote itself in like a day, So I think sometimes
Speaker 1: I think that is the truth. You know, we got
Speaker 1: new music coming out, some songs you're always grounded. I know,
Speaker 1: I just love it too much. I just put out
Speaker 1: like a like a almost like a yacht rock slash.
Speaker 1: It's like yacht rock. We're both kind of go like
Speaker 1: chasing down our roots a little bit. Well, I wanted to.
Speaker 1: I was. I was making basically this like singer songwriter
Speaker 1: kind of country record which is in the can. And
Speaker 1: then one day while I was mixing, I just went, man,
Speaker 1: I just I just need to like create something, and
Speaker 1: I created this. I was like, I just want to
Speaker 1: make something fun, and I just went to the piano,
Speaker 1: came with some chords, and all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: song body Talk happens and I was like, and it's
Speaker 1: our inner Michael McDonald. I was just channeling that. And
Speaker 1: and once that one happened, I loved it so much.
Speaker 1: And Charles are out the same when we like, when
Speaker 1: we like a song. We listened to it like five
Speaker 1: thousand times, and I listened to it over and over again.
Speaker 1: I went, I'm inspired. And so the next day I
Speaker 1: was like, I literally pushed the country record of the
Speaker 1: side and I was like, this is project. So that
Speaker 1: and then I'm producing Naomi Cook right now some of
Speaker 1: the stuffy you sent me of her. It's unbelievable that
Speaker 1: she is boring her heart out.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 1: She's talking about her childhood, she's talking about her Cherokee heritage,
Speaker 1: and I mean we've had moments where you know, she's
Speaker 1: cried on the mic and these lyrics are deep crazy childhood.
Speaker 1: I won't go. I don't know if she would allow
Speaker 1: me to go into it. So I want family. Was
Speaker 1: that was the lead singer of her Husband's a killer
Speaker 1: producer man, a writer, Yeah, Mars Johnson, Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: He was in Boys Like Girls, Yeah, with they did
Speaker 1: just have baby. And I think that's what makes this,
Speaker 1: this this solo project. She's doing so great because we're
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about her being a new mother.
Speaker 1: You know, they live half the year out there in Utah,
Speaker 1: so it's really low hanging fruit. You know. He just
Speaker 1: drives over the studio. You know, there's no hours there,
Speaker 1: there's no picking clock, you know or anything like That's
Speaker 1: just we just relax and do whatever, you know happens.
Speaker 1: She's a great Singer's let's talk about your Kelly Bros.
Speaker 1: Golf tournament. Oh yeah, what the what the heart is
Speaker 1: behind that and giving back to Charles. Charles is an
Speaker 1: idea we've we've you know, had I think for a
Speaker 1: long long time and really just about August has been
Speaker 1: so meant so much to our family, you know, over
Speaker 1: the years, and so much support, especially you know Josh
Speaker 1: was starting out as an artist, but even before that,
Speaker 1: my father, my brother John lives down there and and
Speaker 1: they've you know, hugely supportive when we were starting our band,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, we just wanted to do something than that.
Speaker 1: One we could have a fun event, play golf, but
Speaker 1: also raise some money for some local charities. And so
Speaker 1: my dad, my father's got they've got an adowment and
Speaker 1: endowment under his name of the hospital. We've got a
Speaker 1: lot of local charities, some of the and you know
Speaker 1: some some children's charities and stuff are part of it.
Speaker 1: And just getting a lot of our great artist buddies too,
Speaker 1: like we've had Darius Thomas Rhet came last year. I
Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna have to put Darius name on
Speaker 1: the tournament. But I mean he's so sweet, you know,
Speaker 1: Randy Hows just oh even had even had a different
Speaker 1: collective soul came and I thought we were rocket but
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, he goes, you know, you're
Speaker 1: like that this your yeah, tell me what human juke box? Yeah?
Speaker 5: And then.
Speaker 1: I don't know you're then and then the chorus and
Speaker 1: then I talk about it.
Speaker 8: Shine down.
Speaker 1: Shine, I mean just like at the charity event as
Speaker 1: a character of the world, and he absolutely brought the roof.
Speaker 1: It was sick. I mean it really was. And he's
Speaker 1: he's the nicest guy ever. I actually was on tour
Speaker 1: with them for years back in like two thousand and
Speaker 1: six and and all that, and they were so kind
Speaker 1: to me. But he is a freaking star. I can
Speaker 1: remember that music video really, yeah, I can remember them
Speaker 1: being on a roof. Something was a jam that was
Speaker 1: that like a Christian song that were there a Christian
Speaker 1: man for what I think they were a little bit
Speaker 1: and I don't know into that corporational world yea like switch.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we get we get a lot of great artists.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who really blows the roof off the
Speaker 1: place too, though, is our older brother John led Zeppelin
Speaker 1: covering dog d a w G. That guy can sing well.
Speaker 1: Speaking of having like you know, like bringing up, your
Speaker 1: your your brother, like, you know, we did big show
Speaker 1: out there for the first tea that they have and
Speaker 1: and you know, lady A and I'm like it staving here,
Speaker 1: I'm like, can my brother come up at the encourt
Speaker 1: and saying and you know it's you know, and and
Speaker 1: they didn't realize how good he was. And he comes
Speaker 1: up there, you know, khaki pants and polo shirt and
Speaker 1: shirt a solo cup in it, and he's like and
Speaker 1: people are like, no, no, you're just not out of
Speaker 1: you know, it's business looking guy. And he just you know,
Speaker 1: it was It's awesome. So since then I think it
Speaker 1: inspired him he he uh he and some some buddies there.
Speaker 1: In Augusta started a band called Black Dog and cover
Speaker 1: song They're really good too. I mean, they got it down.
Speaker 1: Just love music. I mean, honestly, that y'all are freaking
Speaker 1: is actually really the one who got us into it.
Speaker 1: If if we're what's what's funny though, too, is like
Speaker 1: that was kind of if I mean honest probably was
Speaker 1: going to be my like thing. I just was like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to be a you know, have a have
Speaker 1: a job, business guy and like on the weekends if
Speaker 1: I'm at a wedding. I'll go up whispering like hey,
Speaker 1: you guys know y'all know lone of Richie and like
Speaker 1: you know, and then hop up and sing a song
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh cool, you know. And so nah,
Speaker 1: I don't think I wasn't in the cards, Big brother
Speaker 1: wasn't never gonna let that happen. Look at you remember that.
Speaker 5: It's wow, it.
Speaker 6: Good, use it like son and morn. Wow, he's it
Speaker 6: like sound and.
Speaker 8: Mom oh man, I don't want to I don't want
Speaker 8: to him.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: I want to cast my right and do this all that.
Speaker 1: We gotta get to two things, do we We had
Speaker 1: like we had Olympics planned, We had all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But that's so we're still gonna have a put off.
Speaker 1: We'll just do it.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the one that got away. Uh we
Speaker 2: we we say it could be a fish, it could
Speaker 2: be a deer. There's a you know, we say hamburger
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 6: That sure was anything you had to say that it
Speaker 6: is a part of show.
Speaker 1: For the one that got second. Uh does anything come
Speaker 1: to mind? For the songs, there's a bunch of songs
Speaker 1: American kids. I remember we were like that Kenny Chesney
Speaker 1: and that made a big hit. It was kind of
Speaker 1: right at that point in our career. We really could
Speaker 1: have used American Kids Bump and I remember being like, god,
Speaker 1: this song is a hit, and we kind of talked
Speaker 1: about it, were like, I don't know, it feels like
Speaker 1: we got American Honey already, you know. And I remember,
Speaker 1: like I loved America literally silly like excuses why we
Speaker 1: didn't cut it. So that's one, like from a song perspective.
Speaker 1: We also better dig two. I remember got sent to
Speaker 1: us and I was like, damn, that's really cool, and
Speaker 1: it was like maybe it's a little too dark for
Speaker 1: we were going in. Of course Van Parry cut that
Speaker 1: was huge. I mean, there's always those little things, but
Speaker 1: it's always worked. It's also worked the other side too,
Speaker 1: where like Randa Lambert had to Downtown on on hold
Speaker 1: and someone pitched us and is that a HERD song?
Speaker 1: Not Downtown? Yeah it was, I know it was Natalie
Speaker 1: Hemby and but anyways, like she was cool enough to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, they're going in earlier, like which is
Speaker 1: we bring that up all the time, Like I think
Speaker 1: that's why I loved Best Town. There was no like
Speaker 1: it was like oh, y'a are going to cut. Oh
Speaker 1: the lady loved it. You cut it, and so Rain
Speaker 1: is so cool. Yeah she is. But initially, but the
Speaker 1: first thing I thought about though, and maybe it was
Speaker 1: glad that it happened, was you know where I went
Speaker 1: back to golf, the one that got away. I was
Speaker 1: going to go to golf to that tournament where I
Speaker 1: was I would have been. I was like fifteen years old,
Speaker 1: so this was like my final, Like hererah, I'm done
Speaker 1: with trying to be like go play college golf. I
Speaker 1: was fifteen or sixteen years old. It was fifteen playing
Speaker 1: in this tournament. Tournament gets like sixteen seventeen to eighteen
Speaker 1: year olds, and I was like one under park going
Speaker 1: into the last two holes. I would have been in
Speaker 1: like second or third and would have been big. Probably
Speaker 1: would have helped me, you know, maybe maybe some looks
Speaker 1: and we after this. Maybe it would have kept me
Speaker 1: in the game. So I was seventeen old, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh man, part five, I'm like, oh, I'm getting on
Speaker 1: this thing in two but driver out of bounce, yeah,
Speaker 1: out of bounce. Another ball down stays in bounce. Well,
Speaker 1: now I got to make up for it, right, You know,
Speaker 1: I'm like two out of bounds guy hit with three
Speaker 1: with big old cut around this tree, out of bounce
Speaker 1: rough one cup in this thing I made a I
Speaker 1: made a fifteen foot putt for a fourteen yeah. Uh
Speaker 1: and uh end up shooting like eighty one and uh
Speaker 1: so like shell shocks where I never played golf ever again.
Speaker 1: And really that was like the end of me trying
Speaker 1: to be you know because like both my brothers, you know,
Speaker 1: well eventually Josh plays college golf with like baldest brother.
Speaker 1: John was like, you know, one of the one of
Speaker 1: the best you know golfers in Georgia play awake for
Speaker 1: us on the team and so you know, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: all right, and that that just it shows you that'll
Speaker 1: have very good resilience. That was out. That was it.
Speaker 1: But ceriously, when things don't come easy to me, I'm done,
Speaker 1: like a target committee eased me, like I am not
Speaker 1: like a grinder like Josh will like baby baby, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's better come back what you're good at your freaking Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm one trick pony, but that's not true. That's not true.
Speaker 1: Trick pony minus mine is actually very similar. I got
Speaker 1: two things. I got one that that got away, and
Speaker 1: then I got one that I'm glad got away. The
Speaker 1: first thing is Future Masters. I was fourteen and I
Speaker 1: was leading going into eighteen, and I made an eight,
Speaker 1: and I really wanted a future trophy because Charles got one.
Speaker 1: Charles wanted when he was eleven, ten he wanted when
Speaker 1: he was ten Pinehurst when he was eleven. And I
Speaker 1: really wanted that elusive future massive trophy and I had
Speaker 1: it in my grasps. How I just fell off? No,
Speaker 1: I hit, I hit a really good drive and then
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember that hole, but then
Speaker 1: I hit I hit my my my approach shot in
Speaker 1: the bunker and I just couldn't get out of the bunker.
Speaker 1: And then my hands started shaking, and then it was
Speaker 1: over and I made an eight, and I cried all
Speaker 1: the way from both in Alabama back to Augussa, Georgia.
Speaker 1: But here, now this one's better, though, the one I'm
Speaker 1: glad got away. Now. I am not an actor, and
Speaker 1: there was one time when my manager wanted me to
Speaker 1: audition for this role. And if this tape, if this
Speaker 1: tape ever gets out, if I am ruined, I mean
Speaker 1: I'm roue in. How would someone start the process. You
Speaker 1: want to find out, do you have the time. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that those people that were in that room, those
Speaker 1: two ladies I have have really tried hard to make
Speaker 1: sure they forget it. So I'm supposed to be auditioned
Speaker 1: for this role. And when I get the script the
Speaker 1: night before, it's about a kid with down syndrome No,
Speaker 1: and I am, first of all, let's let's let's tell
Speaker 1: you got a part. Dave Matthews he got in the role.
Speaker 1: So I go into this audition. I have no idea
Speaker 1: how to act. I'm awful at it. And I go
Speaker 1: in and I went full I can't, you can't. It
Speaker 1: was like that, I can't't? You know? The movie a
Speaker 1: full yeah brattle. And to this day when I think
Speaker 1: I think about it, I literally go like that. I
Speaker 1: go like that, I go like it'll pop up my
Speaker 1: head and I'm like hyperventilate. Act know I was. I'm
Speaker 1: always wondering if I could act. You could act? Don't
Speaker 1: act you as you know you can easily act. I
Speaker 1: just dude that let me know that I can't reading.
Speaker 1: How about this reading science? With Katie when we first
Speaker 1: started dating and and she was like, you're awful at this.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm like shaking right now just
Speaker 1: reading this with you. I hate this and yeah, that
Speaker 1: looks like you could use a hand that dude. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna do it. I do anything. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, we bought already, block say something else.
Speaker 1: Read fast.
Speaker 2: Let's move on to Gravy that that in the bus
Speaker 2: shake and we can go Gravorite favorite song. That's the
Speaker 2: greatest slash favorite tune. If anything comes.
Speaker 1: Look it's a country that can be It's for me.
Speaker 1: It's I'm on Fire. I don't know why. I love
Speaker 1: that song so I always have. But I sang a
Speaker 1: show last night. Did my voice is like we can
Speaker 1: always cratchy and can we talk about the lyrics on fire?
Speaker 1: I know little little girl is your daddy home. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little girl. I didn't think of a daughter. And
Speaker 1: then I was like, yeah, I know it's a it's
Speaker 1: a little creep city. It's like, but that sounds what
Speaker 1: it is. It's a vibe. Everything that man does is
Speaker 1: a vibal. This is a vibe. Well, we'll see if
Speaker 1: I can do it right. So when when I was
Speaker 1: covering it, I wanted to oh good. I wanted to
Speaker 1: do it kind of like Johnny Cash style and like
Speaker 1: making my own. So I was doing like a.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, little girl is your daddy? Then you go
Speaker 7: away and leave you all alone.
Speaker 11: I got a bad desire.
Speaker 1: She's eighteen, by the way.
Speaker 11: Why I'm on fire?
Speaker 1: Tell me, pretty mummy?
Speaker 7: Is he good to you?
Speaker 11: Can he do to you things that I do? I
Speaker 11: can take you higher? Why I'm on fire? Sometimes it's
Speaker 11: like someone took a knife baby Edgy and Dot and
Speaker 11: cut a six inch valloy.
Speaker 1: Through the middle of my soul.
Speaker 5: And night a wake up with.
Speaker 1: A sheet soaking wed and a freight train running through
Speaker 1: the middle of my head.
Speaker 11: Only you can cool my desires.
Speaker 5: Why I'm on fire?
Speaker 1: I thought y'all really harmies on this.
Speaker 8: I'm just this is just.
Speaker 1: Freaking thoughts. I just don't never but your guitar playing
Speaker 1: you never miss him. M I usually do this higher.
Speaker 1: I'm all gonna have mood wool Charles Woo woo as
Speaker 1: good as I can do. My voice is so gone
Speaker 1: right now, man, the Kelly Bros. Yeah this is awesome.
Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out. God's Country. I feel come buzza. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see I'll later so far h