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Speaker 2: And then you got a dog on it?

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, I mean, I know you like dogs,

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Speaker 1: You like dogs. I don't know why. Maybe there's not

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Speaker 5: burning questions. The first one tasks surprise playoff team. You

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Speaker 5: in tournament, as we clarify, But what do you got?

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Speaker 4: I'm going with the Charlotte Hornets. I'm doing it, baby. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're going to Buzz City, Gonna have some fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I might be asking like an impossible question. You're right here, Tasa,

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Speaker 8: that very reason, skeets, because you know, for us, if

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Speaker 8: It didn't go that way for either of them. They

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Speaker 2: A great sixth man.

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Speaker 8: Maybe he is the next Lou Williams who just goes

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Speaker 8: I love that tass is wearing a floral print shirt

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Speaker 8: It seems like the Bulls' biggest moves this year. We're

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Speaker 8: So even if it's not a playoff season, I don't

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Speaker 8: I hope we see some classic Bulls injuries. They're not

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Speaker 2: They finally got up the fourth.

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Speaker 8: This year and drafted a guy who was a six

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Speaker 8: If they end up being terrible, I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 5: I mean how many that's right, how many wins? Just

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Speaker 5: If they had their full team out there, I think

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Speaker 5: and they've got talented even forwards. There young guys at that.

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Speaker 5: So my pick for this I'm probably cheating. I think

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Speaker 5: team just because they didn't make it last year. I'll

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Speaker 5: go the Grizzlies getting in. So I actually I'm a

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Speaker 5: Of course, with Chris Paul coming in there and pairing

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Speaker 5: They're old guys are Valentiunis and Kyle Anderson who feel

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Speaker 5: A little worried about you know, Jackson already being injured.

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Speaker 5: But I love Jaw as a leader, and I think

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Speaker 5: But I'll go Grizzlies to maybe be a little bit

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Speaker 6: I think they got that. I was like, no one

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Speaker 7: I mean, like, yeah, you got to keep your eye

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Speaker 6: But outside of him, they don't have that real sort

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Speaker 4: Scary in the West though you can get behind real

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Speaker 4: Start, John Murrant makes it go, and then who else

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Speaker 5: I don't think no one team you didn't mention there too,

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Speaker 8: They got a rebrand. They got a rebrand. Seeds seven

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Speaker 5: I don't really feel like a tournament to me, Yeah,

433
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Speaker 5: I agree.

434
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Speaker 8: Every other sport calls it a wild card those last

435
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Speaker 8: few teams that are barely making the playoffs. Every sport

436
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Speaker 8: calls it a wild card, except for the NBA, who

437
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,960
Speaker 8: calls it a play in tournament, and then it's barely

438
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Speaker 8: even a tournament.

439
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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean I wonder if they did that

440
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,360
Speaker 5: because they kept talking about we might have a tournament

441
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,120
Speaker 5: mid season, right, we might just play for a fake

442
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,840
Speaker 5: cup or a second cup. Whatever. Are they trying to

443
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 5: like get us ingrained in us by saying tournament or tournament, tournament?

444
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,119
Speaker 5: Then where then suddenly we got one in in the

445
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Speaker 5: middle of the season, like another tournament. I think they

446
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Speaker 5: might be doing that.

447
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Speaker 8: That's all right, We'll launch the No Dunks Classic and

448
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Speaker 8: they can play for a Good Morning, Sweet.

449
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Speaker 5: World moow bounces. Great idea. Okay, so yeah, those are

450
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Speaker 5: our surprise teams. Let's hear from you guys, both in

451
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Speaker 5: the stream team and you can tweet at us at

452
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Speaker 5: No Dunksinca what's your surprise playoff team heading into this season?

453
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Speaker 4: Let me ask, let me ask, let me quick. I

454
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Speaker 4: know you guys like Streaks Lee, you love streaks teams

455
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Speaker 4: that made the playoffs. What about teams that haven't made

456
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Speaker 4: the playoffs? Long a streak without making the playoffs? Who kicking?

457
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 4: Yea King's fourteen straight seasons.

458
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Speaker 5: Next team, Sons are there, they're a decade.

459
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Speaker 4: I think a decade. Yeah. Nice. Nice, you guys did

460
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Speaker 4: your homework before five. It's what I like to do.

461
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Speaker 2: Who's next?

462
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Speaker 5: Do you think?

463
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Speaker 7: I don't know?

464
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Speaker 2: Who's the Eastern Conference team? That's a good one. Nicks

465
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 2: haven't made the playoffs?

466
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Distons made it.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pistons snuck in the Johnson versus Lebron Yeah.

468
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Hornets are snuck in of course. Yeah, I

469
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 5: think the.

470
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Speaker 4: Next seven seven seasons. Right, it was twenty thirteen when

471
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Speaker 4: they were Carmelo ing and Mike woodsonding out there.

472
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Speaker 5: I think that's right. Okay, great, oh cool, we were

473
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Speaker 5: on that one looking at the first half schedule. Lee,

474
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Speaker 5: we know all the games. So what's a one must

475
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Speaker 5: watch game that you've got circled there on your digital

476
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Speaker 5: calendar that you are really tuning into?

477
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Speaker 2: And why?

478
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Speaker 6: Well, you know, the NBA said coming into this season

479
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Speaker 6: they wanted to try to reduce travel as much as

480
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Speaker 6: possible due to the coronavirus outbreak here, so they didn't

481
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 6: want team sling around them too much or to reduce

482
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Speaker 6: it as much as they could, except the Night one.

483
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Speaker 7: Game one.

484
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Speaker 6: Let's get the San Francisco team over to New York

485
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Speaker 6: to play the Brooklyn Nets, because that's the game Night

486
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Speaker 6: Game one, that's the game we all want to watch,

487
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 6: because it's Kevin Durant going up against the team he

488
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Speaker 6: won two championships with and turn down a max contract

489
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Speaker 6: worth around the same money that Janni Sante Tokupo just

490
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Speaker 6: signed for to go and play for the Brooklyn Nets.

491
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Speaker 6: And the perfect thing about this is the seven o'clock

492
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Speaker 6: Eastern start. We are all going to be watching together

493
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 6: and overreacting immediately to the first possession of the game,

494
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 6: the second possession of the game. If Durant misses a jumper,

495
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Speaker 6: he's not back. He's going to take a year to

496
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Speaker 6: get back from if if the Warriors are down early yet,

497
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Speaker 6: Warriors are not a contender, they're going to struggle to

498
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Speaker 6: make the playoffs again this year. That's what it's going

499
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Speaker 6: to be in the very first game of the night,

500
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Speaker 6: in the first couple of minutes of the game, and

501
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Speaker 6: then it's going to be like you know, Kyrie Evans

502
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 6: is going to take a shot and Kevin Durant and

503
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 6: Kyrie are going to look at each other exchange glances

504
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 6: in the third quarter. It's like, that's exactly what we

505
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 6: just love about the NBA, that that complete focus on

506
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Speaker 6: one game. You know, this is not a night. There's

507
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Speaker 6: only two games on opening Night. Well after that we

508
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Speaker 6: go to the West Coast and the Lakers and the Clippers,

509
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Speaker 6: And that's what the NBA really really wants to focus on.

510
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 6: All the drama, everyone's eyes, all the conversation around one game.

511
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Speaker 6: And what better way to do it than the very

512
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Speaker 6: first game of the season. So Warriors at Nets game,

513
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Speaker 6: one night one on Tuesday night.

514
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Speaker 7: Believe it or not, that's only what the four sleeps away.

515
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Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple notes from now we have real basketball back. Okay,

516
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Speaker 5: that's a good pick, that's a no brainer, but I

517
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Speaker 5: like it. Who do you got?

518
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Speaker 8: I really hope the Nets come out here and run

519
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,719
Speaker 8: a first possession post up for DeAndre Jordan, just to

520
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 8: throwback to the Doc Rivers era when you're.

521
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Speaker 2: Like, what are you doing?

522
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Speaker 8: You got two great offensive players, just let them play

523
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 8: a ball. You got to keep that big man engaged.

524
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 8: Though him a lefty jump book. The team the game

525
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Speaker 8: for me that I want to see Lakers at Bucks

526
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Speaker 8: January twenty first, twenty twenty one. Yeah, that's right, one

527
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Speaker 8: twenty one, twenty twenty one. If you remember, this is

528
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Speaker 8: the scene of the crime last year, Jannis snatching Lebron's crown,

529
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Speaker 8: popping it on his own head as the Bucks take

530
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Speaker 8: down the Lakers. Now they obviously met. About a month

531
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Speaker 8: and a half later, Lebron took the crown back, and

532
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Speaker 8: as we saw in.

533
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Speaker 2: The bubble, the Lakers won the championship.

534
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 8: Lebron is still the King, but now Jannis is signed

535
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 8: long term in Milwaukee. That is gonna be a marquee game.

536
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Speaker 8: It's really the bucks first matchup against a Western Conference contender.

537
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 8: They've got a game I think against the Jazz, perhaps

538
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 8: not too far ahead of that. They play the Warriors

539
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Speaker 8: on Christmas Day, obviously, but this is gonna be a

540
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Speaker 8: potential finals matchup, no doubt about it.

541
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Speaker 2: I don't have a top of confidence in the Bucks.

542
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Speaker 8: Making it to the finals this season, but there's no

543
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Speaker 8: doubt that Lebron and Giannis and eighty are gonna be

544
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Speaker 8: three of the top five players in the league. This

545
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Speaker 8: season's gonna be fun to see him battling it out.

546
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Speaker 8: We're gonna be fun to see if there's any sort

547
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Speaker 8: of hijiings, if there's any sort of crown heisting again

548
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Speaker 8: this year. You know, it was fun to see Jianni's

549
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Speaker 8: trash talking Lebron a little. You don't see that very

550
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Speaker 8: often in the NBA.

551
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Speaker 2: Good stuff.

552
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Speaker 5: Yeah, if Lebron has a big monster game versus Jannis

553
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Speaker 5: in that first matchup, I can see a bunch of

554
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Speaker 5: the Lakers bench guys, you know, Dud and whoever like,

555
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 5: really like going next level with putting the crown on Lebron.

556
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: They'll probably put a cape on the hand them the

557
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 5: scepter like King of the Ring style, you know what

558
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Speaker 5: I mean. They're gonna they'll go next level with that.

559
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Speaker 5: That's a good pick. So that's January twenty first, twenty

560
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Speaker 5: twenty one. All right, Lakers Bucks, what do you got tasks?

561
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Speaker 4: Nice? I'm going to stay with the popular day, Christmas Day,

562
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 4: But for me, the last game of Christmas Day ten

563
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 4: thirty Eastern. I'm a little basketball out right, but I'm

564
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 4: pretty pumped to watch Clippers Nuggets because the Clippers in

565
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 4: their first game opening night, they got to watch the

566
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Speaker 4: Lakers get their ring. The TV producers will be showing

567
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 4: Kawhi and Paul George their faces unless they're hiding in

568
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 4: the locker rooms as the Lakers get their rings. That's

569
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 4: gonna be great. And then the second game that they

570
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 4: have to play, the Clippers will be going up against

571
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Speaker 4: this Nuggets team that was able to come back from

572
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Speaker 4: three to one against them. So I think the Clippers

573
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 4: will be ready to go, but the Nuggets are definitely

574
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 4: going to keeping me awake. Just that passing style of

575
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: Jokic to my man Jamal Murray to Facundo Composo coming

576
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 4: off the bench throwing some serious dimes. I'm sure you

577
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: guys saw that. Yeah, yeah, that lead pass with the

578
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 4: spin on it and the pre Kamarie. So we're gonna

579
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 4: be awake for that. And Michael Porgnior, you guys mentioned

580
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant in the Brooklyn Nets playing, you know, he

581
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 4: is my Kevin Durant light just and how smooth he

582
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 4: is and how how big he is. He is a

583
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Speaker 4: wonder he really is. He is a unique player, sort

584
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Speaker 4: of like kd is And so the Nuggets are always

585
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: always gonna be fun to watch this season, and against

586
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Speaker 4: an angry Clippers team. I mean, the schedulers really lined

587
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: up this Clippers opening line of opening a schedule to

588
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 4: piss them off. So I'm looking forward to that. I

589
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: will be awake until one am Eastern watching that game,

590
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Speaker 4: and then we're planning on doing a little recap of

591
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Speaker 4: those games on the Saturday, so look out for that.

592
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 4: We'll be talking about those five games. Should be fun.

593
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right about the Clippers first week there. I mean,

594
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 5: the Clippers can quiet a lot of critics right away,

595
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 5: couldn't they. Like if they came out beat the Lakers,

596
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 5: beat the Nuggets, team that knocked them off last year,

597
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 5: would be a hell of a start for you know,

598
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 5: still some confidence in them moving forward. But they also

599
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 5: could go oh and two or you know, and then

600
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Speaker 5: the sky is falling. So that's a good pick. I'm

601
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Speaker 5: going to go with the Nuggets. Actually, two tasks. Sunday,

602
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Speaker 5: January seventeenth, twenty twenty one. Always love a nice Sunday

603
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 5: game because you know, we usually take the weekends off

604
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 5: during the regular season, so if you have a big

605
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 5: performance on Sunday, you know, we're talking about it on Monday.

606
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 5: And we got the Jazz versus the Nuggets, Jamal Murray

607
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 5: versus Donovan Mitchell Part eight right, two young stars. They

608
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 5: had that incredible duel in the opening round of the

609
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 5: twenty twenty playoffs down in the bubble with you know

610
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 5: the Nuggets coming back from their first three one deficit

611
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 5: to beat the Jazz and seven. Mitchell and Murray combined

612
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 5: for four hundred and seventy five points in that series.

613
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 5: Do you know who they passed? Lee? I think you were.

614
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 5: We only went a live to catch this series. Do

615
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 5: you know who they passed? For the most points ever

616
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 5: scored by a pair of opponents in a playoff series.

617
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 7: I'm thinking it has to be something Larry bid.

618
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Speaker 8: And No no go Way No no, no, no, but no,

619
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Speaker 8: you're and Adrian Dantley.

620
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Speaker 5: No, no, it is.

621
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Speaker 2: It's a guy in the news right now under investigation.

622
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Ery West and John Havlicek, John, Jerry and John

623
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 5: in the sixty nine finals went for four hundred and

624
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 5: sixty three combined points, But doesn't matter. Mitchell and Murray

625
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 5: beat them. So I'm excited to see what these guys

626
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 5: have for an encore here and they're two great teams again,

627
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 5: the Jazz we haven't talking about a ton. We're all

628
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: high on the Nuggets being one and still the best

629
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 5: teams in the Western Conference, So that should be an

630
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 5: awesome game again on a Sunday. I love a Sunday.

631
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 5: It's a nice eight o'clock start, too perfect. You know,

632
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 5: we'll be talking about that on the eighteenth. I can't

633
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 5: wait for the Skeets might be going deep this season.

634
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: I can't believe.

635
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, it used to be a Bills fan, but I

636
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 5: gave that up a couple of years ago. So I

637
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 5: don't really care. Happy for people that I know that

638
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 5: are still Bills fans. But I can't pretend to be

639
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 5: like I'm not. I can't be like a fake, like

640
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like, oh, yeah, the Bill

641
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 5: is tending three super can No? I can't, big bro.

642
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 5: I haven't watched a single down of NFL football this year.

643
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 5: I've just sort of the last couple of years, I've

644
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 5: totally checked out. If I'm being honest, So, hey, go Bills.

645
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 4: Sure you were a fan before, It's not like you're

646
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: just wagoning.

647
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 5: Oh no, I was a fan, yeah when I was

648
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 5: a kid. And yeah, you I've told the story before.

649
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 5: Uh what was it? The third or fourth Super Bowl.

650
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 5: I did a whole Bill's sign. We had it up

651
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 5: on the wall, and then you know, Bills are getting

652
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 5: crushed by the Cowboys. At halftime, my dad ripped a

653
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 5: sign and half a scarred for life.

654
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: You got to make the sign again, mant.

655
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 5: I know, my dad, Mike, my dad. That was the

656
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 5: other Super Bowl that my dad. He gave up the

657
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: Bills before I did, a couple of years prior to

658
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 5: when I like left them.

659
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: He became a cheese fan though, and then they go

660
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: on and win the Super Bowl.

661
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 5: It's incredible. So he did the right move. But now, yeah,

662
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 5: Bills are gonna win sup Bowl. It's amazing. So anyway,

663
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 5: talking basketball, back to basketball, I'm also excited for the

664
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 5: Celtics Raptors because I like, I just like two teams

665
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: that are like had good series three year prior, and

666
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 5: they had a pretty epic seven game series obviously in

667
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 5: the playoff semi finals there down in Orlando, so had

668
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 5: a lot of close games in that series. So they

669
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Speaker 5: play January fourth, if you're keeping track, all right, Next

670
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 5: question awards, Back to the awards, Trey, you get it started.

671
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 5: Rookie of the Year.

672
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 8: Who are you going with tass hit on my pick

673
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 8: for Rookie of the Year a little bit earlier, because

674
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 8: I think the Hornets are going to be in the

675
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 8: mix for a playoff spot as well, at least for

676
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 8: the play and tournament. My Rookie of the Year Lamello Ball.

677
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 8: I don't care about the shooting percentages. I care about

678
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 8: the vibes, and LaMelo has the best Charlotte vibes since

679
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 8: Larry Johnson. He's even bringing back the number two. Like

680
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 8: you mentioned, Skeets, It's highlights galore. That's probably the sort

681
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 8: of thing that it's taken out of his game as

682
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 8: he progresses during his career. But that rookie year, you're

683
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 8: going nuts with every single highlight you can pile up.

684
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 8: Think about Jason Williams when he was with the Kings

685
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 8: with the long, floppy hair. He was throwing passes off

686
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 8: his elbows, he was doing fake behind the backs, he

687
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 8: was doing all this kind of stuff. But eventually he

688
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 8: gets to the Miami Heat and he's just a solid

689
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 8: point guard. You like the fun times, enjoy the fun times. Now,

690
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 8: LaMelo's gonna have the Hornets playing fast. He's got a

691
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 8: chance to have the ball even a little bit more

692
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 8: here with Gordon Hayward's injury. I think, you know, the

693
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 8: shooting percentage, maybe he shoots forty percent, maybe he shoots

694
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 8: thirty five percent for the season. But he'll score some points.

695
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 8: He'll probably lead all rookies and assists. He'll be a

696
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 8: pretty solid rebounder. I imagine, oh yeah, he'll score every

697
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 8: once in a while.

698
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm looking forward to the LaMelo experience.

699
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: I got him as Rookie of the Year. I think

700
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: it's a good pick.

701
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 5: I don't think it's that far fetch, and I am

702
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 5: not a Lamello ball fan, but I don't think it's

703
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 5: that far fetched. He might flirt with a triple double

704
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 5: averaging because he rebounds great for a guard. It's obviously

705
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 5: a big guard, and of course he's going to rack

706
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 5: up I think double digit assists or really close. He

707
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 5: may not, he may score like it might be the

708
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 5: Jason Kidd type of triple double. But I think that's

709
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 5: in play that he could flirt with that. Seriously, think

710
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: that that he could average it almost for the season,

711
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 5: like an eleven, ten and ten type of triple double,

712
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 5: but a triple double nonetheless, right, you know, maybe a

713
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 5: little bit more points than that, But that's a strong pick.

714
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 5: Task Are you going LaMelo Ball as well? Because you're

715
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 5: talking up the Hornets as a surprize playoff team.

716
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: Oh, it's fun to talk about LaMelo Ball. No doubt

717
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: he will be right there for sure. But I can't

718
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: pick the same thing that I picked for the first one.

719
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 4: Got it kind of fresh. I'm really worried about the

720
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: New York Knicks finishing dead last in the Eastern Conference,

721
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna take Obi Toppin because the highlights from

722
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 4: either LaMelo Ball or Obi Toppin are gonna be top

723
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 4: in the rookie rankings, No doubt. I think I think

724
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: they'll both be up there. I just I don't want

725
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: to buy that Obi Toppin is not gonna play with

726
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 4: with Tom Tipbatam. I'm a little scared of that. I'm

727
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 4: I'm not going to buy into it quite yet, but

728
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: hopefully he does. And I think he's going to end

729
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: up with the ball and he's going to make some plays.

730
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 4: The guy's just too talented on the offensive end not

731
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 4: to so. I think, Yeah, if LaMelo Ball struggles with

732
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: the shooting percentages, which I could definitely see, yeah, I

733
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: think Obi Topping will probably get some some serious buzz

734
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: there in New York?

735
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: Good one. What do you got Lee? Are you trying

736
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 5: to look for rooks that could be starting right?

737
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: You know?

738
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 5: LaMelo Ball, Obi toppin possibly who knows whether Julius Randall

739
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 5: had taken his starting spot? Like who else is they're

740
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 5: Killian Hayes maybe for the Pistons. Is Patrick Williams maybe

741
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: going to start for the Bulls of THEA for the Wizards?

742
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 5: Is in the mix? I know, I'm sure there's a

743
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 5: couple other guys. I guess James Wiseman isn't probably going

744
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 5: to start start? Is he at center for the Word?

745
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: But where are you going? Yeah?

746
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 6: I'm sort of landing there with the Obi Topping as well,

747
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 6: simply because I think I could sort of see him

748
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 6: because of the way he plays close to the basket,

749
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 6: maybe averaging fifteen or sixteen points a game. And we

750
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 6: know with the rookie that can tend to be all

751
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 6: at really takes. It doesn't have to be wins don't

752
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 6: really count for this award. It's just which sort of

753
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 6: rookie is out there performing every night, So I can

754
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 6: see him maybe averaging like sixteen and eight and shooting

755
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 6: a good percentage because he'll get so many of his

756
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 6: baskets just from dunks and alley oops and things like that.

757
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 7: On a bad team.

758
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 6: Yes, Tom Thibodeaux as a with a rookie, that's the

759
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 6: one question there, so how much time he will get.

760
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 7: But when he's on the floor, I.

761
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 6: Can just sort of see him putting up numbers, really

762
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 6: like just putting up those offensive numbers and sort of

763
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 6: standing out. From that point, I agree with LaMelo Ball

764
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 6: that I think he can be the guy who maybe

765
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 6: he does contribute the most in those other categories, and

766
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 6: even if the shooting isn't that bad, he can still

767
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 6: average a double digital games, so he should be the favorite.

768
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 6: But yeah, for me, it's one of those two guys

769
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 6: simply again because top and is going to get the

770
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 6: opportunity to score on a bad team. A lot of

771
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 6: these other rookies like Wiseman on the Warriors, I just

772
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 6: don't really see him having enough of an impact on

773
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 6: that team to do it. Anthony Edwards, who really knows

774
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 6: out there in Minnesota, I mean he could. I mean

775
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 6: he's a number one pick, so expect him to start

776
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 6: expecting to play some big minutes and some shots. But

777
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 6: how good is he? No one really knows Killian Hayes

778
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 6: as well in Detroit. I mean, there's just so many

779
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 6: questions on these guys on these teams.

780
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 7: So I'm just.

781
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 5: Going with the calves too possible, Yeah, exactly.

782
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 7: And again that's a bad team, so a good opportunity

783
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 7: for a rookie, and that's yeah, it doesn't matter if

784
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 7: you're bad, no one, No, it's it's.

785
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 6: All about the stats when you're a rookie. So I

786
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 6: think the guy who's most likely to put up, you know,

787
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 6: pretty decent numbers. I think from a scoring point is

788
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 6: probably ob topping for me.

789
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll officially goal and mellow ball. That will be

790
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 5: my pick. I like his chances. Any other dark horse

791
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 5: guys that you're you're looking down sort of the the

792
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 5: draft that you could talk yourself and do call Anthony.

793
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 5: I think maybe in Orlando have given an opportunity. Tray,

794
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 5: you're nodding your head, maybe you agree with that one.

795
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to seeing call Anthony play for the Magic.

796
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 8: At the very least, I'll put him on my second

797
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 8: team all rookie if I were doing some predictions. But

798
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 8: my favorite question comes from Sam, you KNOWO on the

799
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 8: screen team who says ball Bowl you talk about, Oh yeah,

800
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 8: that's disappearing into the ghost realm. He didn't play until

801
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 8: the bubble, but as the league told us before the

802
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 8: bubble even started, those don't count Bull Bull, despite playing

803
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 8: seven games for the Nuggets eligible for Rookie of the Year.

804
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 8: It's like when David Justice got brought up to the

805
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 8: Atlanta Braves in September, didn't play enough eligible.

806
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: For Rookie of the Year next year.

807
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 7: It's weird, stop. But those stats did count though didn't

808
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 7: know that.

809
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: I know, I'm just saying, but did they know?

810
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 7: But I mean they weren't.

811
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 6: They weren't, like voters weren't supposed to take those into

812
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 6: account when voting for awards. But I believe those stats

813
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 6: actually did count. I know he's right he is eligible

814
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: because they've said he is eligible. Wow bull ball, Yeah,

815
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 6: he's yeah.

816
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 7: He's going to be fun to watch. He was already

817
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 7: hitting nice shots there him. In fact, Gundo out on

818
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 7: the floor is just beautiful to watch, such a great combination.

819
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: All right, anyone else tests why it is wild when

820
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 4: you talk about guys who are going to start or

821
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 4: not if you look at the top ten of picks

822
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 4: from the draft, Anthony Edwards probably starts for the Wolves.

823
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 4: James Wiseman No, LaMelo Ball unlikely. Actually he'll probably get

824
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 4: back in up Terry Rozier in Devonte gr And, Patrick Williams,

825
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 4: question Mark, Isaac carl question Mark and Yaka and Kongoo.

826
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: No way. Killian Hayes probably not sounds Killian Hayes.

827
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 2: You don't think so, You don't think he will.

828
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: Gives me a chance? Yeah, I don't know. Obi Topping,

829
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 4: Thanny a doubt it. There's just a top ten picks.

830
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: It's it's it's hard. Yeah, just pick the guy who starts.

831
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: But I think Ball is a good pick just because

832
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 4: he's going to play starters minutes, especially because they play

833
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: small and Charlotte they're gonna get, They're gonna get on

834
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 4: the run. He is going to have the buzz of

835
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 4: buzz City for sure throughout the league in the highlights,

836
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: but Obi Topping will be right there with him.

837
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 8: I think I hope we get some good Killian Hayes

838
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 8: highlights though, or at least a massive Killian Hayes week,

839
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 8: because I guarantee Tassel hit us with boy you be killing.

840
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 4: In no doubt.

841
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 5: All right, next award here, I guess our final award

842
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 5: if I've been keeping track correctly, Defensive Player of the Year.

843
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 2: Let's talk defense. I don't trade does a lot to well,

844
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: let's talk a little bit. I got a sorry guy,

845
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: something came up. They need help with the leaf blowing outside.

846
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 5: Okay, well, Leally, you get a started, Dan, who do

847
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 5: you have peg to win DPOA.

848
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 7: You know I picked Anthony Davis to win MVP this season.

849
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 7: I'm going to double down.

850
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 6: I'm going to say Anthony Davis is going to win

851
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 6: Defensive Player of the Year as well because the Lakers

852
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 6: defense was great last year.

853
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 7: He finished second, so he's right there.

854
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 6: Anyway, And you know, you guys kind of push back

855
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 6: on me making the claim for Anthony Davis for MVP,

856
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 6: and I've thought about it. I thought, yeah, it is

857
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 6: probably going to be a little bit tough, but this

858
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 6: could almost be the award that the voters give him.

859
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 7: Instead of MVP.

860
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 6: It's like, you know what, you know what, You're a

861
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 6: brilliant defender. Your team is going to have a top

862
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 6: three defense, I believe, and he's going to get so

863
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 6: much credit. He's a great shop blocker. Anyway, He's a

864
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 6: great intimidator, he's a great defender. So I think all

865
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 6: those sort of factors that are can going to combine

866
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 6: to put him in contention.

867
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 7: So I'm going to pick him for that.

868
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 6: Jannis obviously won it last year, you know, he won

869
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 6: it in the end quite convincingly, and he's going to

870
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 6: be in contention again there. But again, I think Jannis

871
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 6: has to do a little bit more to convince voters

872
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 6: this year. So I'm going with Anthony Davis. I really

873
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 6: wanted to pick Ben Simmons. I think Ben Simmons is

874
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 6: an incredible defender, but he is going to.

875
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: Be treated.

876
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 6: Well, yes see Darryl Moury Daryl Moury said explicitly last

877
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 6: night that he's not being traded, which means he is

878
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 6: being traded. But the thing is with Ben Simms, I

879
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 6: think he led the league in steals in the end

880
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 6: last night, in the end last season, but he doesn't

881
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 6: get the sort of shot block stats. He doesn't he

882
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 6: doesn't get other recognition. If you if you don't watch

883
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 6: Ben Simmons, you don't maybe appreciate just how good a

884
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 6: defender he is. I think he's an incredible defender, but

885
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 6: I think.

886
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 5: It's it's much more difficult for a wing.

887
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 6: Gord player always always yeah, yeah, yeah, so but I

888
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 6: think it's Davis's award this year.

889
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I like that. I mean, I mean with

890
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 5: this award, they're usually a year late, as we've talked

891
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 5: about before, right, So what you just saw from Anthony Day,

892
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 5: especially in the bubble.

893
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: Where he looked by far the best.

894
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 5: Defensive player in the league in my opinion, yeah, it's

895
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 5: they sometimes it's like just a year behind. He's made

896
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 5: four All Defensive teams in his career, and of course

897
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 5: he's never won this award, So that's a that's a

898
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 5: strong pick there. I see a lot of people taking

899
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 5: a d task. Is there another big or is there

900
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 5: a wing like Simmons that you think could you know,

901
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 5: maybe snatch this from a potential Anthony Davis win.

902
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 7: Well.

903
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: The good thing for Anthony Davis is, yes, everybody talking

904
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 4: about him, but also his teammate. I think Lebron James

905
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: will say, hey, this guy's got to win Defensive Player

906
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 4: of the Year. I think Lebron's done trying to win

907
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 4: Defensive Player of the Year himself. He'll say Anthony Davis,

908
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: you should do it, and he's got the biggest voice

909
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 4: in the league. That will help. But as far as

910
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 4: MVP goes, that's mine. You know, you go take that

911
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 4: defensive Player of the year. I'll take the real one

912
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: that I want. I'll try and get the real one

913
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 4: I want. So eighty's a good win. I totally agree

914
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: that the voters tend to be a bit late. So

915
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 4: that's why I kind of like bam Adebio as a

916
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 4: you know, under the radar. He was, you know, on

917
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 4: the voters list. He was fifth last year, but a

918
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: distant fifth, and then he went to the bubble and

919
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 4: he blocked Jason Tatum in Game one of that second round,

920
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: which was absolutely their third round excuse me, the Eastern

921
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: Conference finals, you know, whereas wrist was in there, the

922
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: rim there, so you know, that's burned into people's memories.

923
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 4: And I think the Heat will make a pretty good

924
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 4: jump in terms of their defensive ranking because they weren't

925
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: amazing last year throughout the season. Their thirteenth and the

926
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: bubble chemistry I think will bubble over to this season

927
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 4: and then the Heat will will jump up and Bam

928
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 4: will probably get some credit for that. He's the guy's

929
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 4: diving on the floor in the preseason. He's bringing it.

930
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 4: The one thing I worry about with Ad he may

931
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: take the vibe of Lebron James in a championship year,

932
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 4: you know, like after Lebron wins, he likes to chill

933
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 4: a little bit, and especially with such a short window,

934
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 4: so AD will take on the vibe Lebron. Although he

935
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: is an incredible defensive player, if they have a little

936
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 4: drop off like the Calves did in seventeen, there that happens.

937
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: It happens with Lebron teams, then you know, maybe AD

938
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: doesn't win it.

939
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 5: Who do you have, Trey?

940
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 8: Fortunately, I got Anthony Davis. Sorry guys, but it just

941
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 8: feels like all the great defenders eventually get a Defensive

942
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 8: Player of the Year. And when you look at the

943
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 8: landscape of great defenders in the NBA right now, Rudy

944
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 8: Gobert's got his awards, Draymond has awards, Kawhi has awards,

945
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 8: Giannis got his last year. Anthony Davis is probably the

946
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 8: guy left on that list who has yet to be

947
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 8: honored as Defensive Player of the Year, which is why

948
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 8: I kind of think Bam is probably behind him in

949
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 8: the pecking order just because you know, you want to

950
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 8: honor the older guys first. That's how it typically goes.

951
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 8: So get me Anthony Davis can't wait to see the presentation.

952
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm going ad as well. What about

953
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 5: Joelle Embiid. I mean he's interesting because he's with Simmons

954
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 5: as now. I mean they're still, of course on the

955
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 5: same team. If they have an elite defense, which we

956
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 5: thought they were gonna have last year, and they were good,

957
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 5: they were not great. They disappointed on that end of

958
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 5: the floor. But if Embiid is out, I mean he

959
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 5: is a monster. He gets overlooked. I think even still

960
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 5: when we talk defensively because we talk about Gobert and

961
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 5: Bam and Giannis and Ad, I get it and be

962
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 5: it's in that bunch in my opinion. So maybe they

963
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 5: have a to three defense. They obviously win a ton

964
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 5: of games. Maybe they're the best team in the East.

965
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 5: He'll have a chance though then Yeah, it's like, is

966
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 5: he's splitting votes somehow with Ben Simmons. Has that come

967
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 5: into play? Potentially? Only no one else I can think of.

968
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 5: Draymond Green's interesting though, he is like if Draymond Green

969
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 5: just took last year off, like he just basically was

970
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 5: like him in school, like going overseas. Uh, you know,

971
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 5: he just went to Europe for for a semester. He

972
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: was just chilling. He was enjoying himself. I didn't really

973
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 5: care all that much because well, his team was you know,

974
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 5: ravaged by injuries. But but if the Warriors surprise a

975
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 5: lot of people and Steph Curry offensively has them playing

976
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 5: you know, top four basketball in the West, you would

977
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 5: have to pair that with good defense. And there are

978
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 5: not a lot of great defenders now that Clay's gone

979
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 5: out there. So Draymond would get a huge bulk of

980
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 5: the you know respect or admiration if he can get

981
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 5: them playing you know, above average defense. So I think Draymond,

982
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 5: I think it's far fetched because even like, who knows

983
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 5: what type of player he is at this point is

984
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 5: and the impact that he can have. But I see

985
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 5: the narrative. I'll put it that way that if they

986
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 5: were to surprise people, that his name would be back

987
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 5: up in the mix because it was like right there

988
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 5: with Gobert and stuff like that, Kallide year after year

989
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 5: after year. So again, if they get back to that level,

990
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 5: he'll be included.

991
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 2: He looks like he's in great shape. Yeah, he does.

992
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: You have to imagine he'll be flying around out there.

993
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 7: He does.

994
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 5: All right, let's hear from you guys with both those

995
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 5: awards with you the year, Defensive Player of the Year,

996
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 5: Who do you have? Who do we miss? A few

997
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 5: more questions. We're almost done here. Let's just go right

998
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 5: to the end. All right. We haven't even started one

999
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 5: game of this season, but we want to get our

1000
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one NBA Finals predictions.

1001
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: Now.

1002
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 5: I want the two teams, I want the winner, and

1003
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 5: hit me with a finals MVP tasks.

1004
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: What a blast this question is? How does anyone not

1005
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 4: pick the Lakers right now? Everybody's doing it. It's hard

1006
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: to really see the light at the end of the

1007
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: tunnel for anybody going up against Lebron and AD. But

1008
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 4: I'm not picking them just everybody number one. Everbody's picking

1009
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: them number two. I think they got to work out

1010
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 4: some problems, which they'll probably work out, but I don't

1011
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 4: see them being the number one seed. You know, the

1012
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 4: sixteen Calves that won, they were a tenth seed or

1013
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 4: the tenth ranked defensive team. Then they're the twenty first

1014
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 4: The year after I think Lebron and ad are going

1015
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 4: to chill a bit. Plus with Avery Bradley gone, with

1016
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 4: Danny green Gun, you're probably starting Dennis Shrewder in the

1017
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: back court. Their defense is going to take a bit

1018
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 4: of a drop off. Is Lebron going to get friggin' old? Ever?

1019
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 4: I like, is he going to drop off one percent?

1020
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 4: Maybe two percent? I don't know, And I think the

1021
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 4: time if he does drop off a little bit, because

1022
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 4: he is going to be thirty six in a couple

1023
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 4: of weeks, you know, maybe they drop off a little bit.

1024
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: And when they get to the postseason, do they have

1025
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 4: the same chemistry as they did last year? Because last

1026
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: year was perfect with Rajon Rondo and Dwight Howard. You

1027
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 4: do sub in Dennis Shrewder and Montrez Harrell for those guys.

1028
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 4: Is it going to be as a coh bunch? You know,

1029
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: they're going to get to the conference finals. I do

1030
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 4: see them against probably the Clippers. I'm going to take

1031
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 4: the Clippers to get to the finals and to win

1032
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: over the Bucks. Now, they got to find their chemistry,

1033
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 4: no doubt, but that's something they're working on.

1034
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 5: Definitely want to worry about the Clippers.

1035
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, See it's something. It's

1036
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: it's really an intangible that we're talking about here to me,

1037
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 4: because the Clippers have a s load of talent, you know,

1038
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 4: they got boatloads of it. They're only three and a

1039
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: half teams back of the Lakers last year with guys

1040
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: being injured, so I think they do come up and

1041
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: take that number one seed. Now is being playing at

1042
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 4: home against the Lakers in July in the East Western

1043
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 4: Conference finals and an advantage. I don't know, it's kind

1044
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: of weird in the Staples Center there, but I think

1045
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 4: they will have home court advantage and it's going to

1046
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: be a battle. You know, not to discount the Nuggets

1047
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 4: and all of them down there, but I do see

1048
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: those two as the most talented teams and them knocking

1049
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: off the Eastern Conference team. But it's hard to pick

1050
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 4: against the Lakers. It's just it's just there are some

1051
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: questions there with you know, a bit of the chemistry

1052
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 4: is sure are going to work? Is mantre is going

1053
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 4: to work? Does it matter in the end? Are they

1054
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 4: going to have that same hit, defensive cohesive unit that

1055
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 4: they did Because those guys that left matter, they subbed

1056
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 4: in some great guys in Wesley Matthews and Marcas sol

1057
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 4: But you know, repeating is hard, and so the Clippers

1058
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: are going to be super duper duper duper hungry. That

1059
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: might not be enough though, against that Lakers team. So yeah,

1060
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 4: Clippers versus who Lakers? Oh I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I

1061
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 4: didn't mention are they going to play in the finals?

1062
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: Can the Lakers play in the finals?

1063
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you know that? I don't know.

1064
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a weird year, man, things can change.

1065
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: I probably take the box, but who the half knows?

1066
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 4: That's even more confusing. In the Eastern Conference, I think

1067
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: the Bucks have a decent matchup if it is against

1068
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 4: the Brooklyn That's who I'm seeing for Kyrie Irving with

1069
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 4: Drew Holiday. No one can stop Kevin Durant, but I

1070
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 4: think they're a good defensive bunch they can manage that.

1071
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 4: So I would take the Bucks to lose to the

1072
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 4: Western Conferences team.

1073
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 5: And I'm you would go Kawhi.

1074
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 4: For oh yeah, yeah, not taking Paul George. I'm not

1075
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: freaking drinking crazy juice, right, So.

1076
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 5: You would have Kawhi winning his third finals MVP with

1077
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 5: three different teams. That'd be pretty amazing. Okay, so Clippers

1078
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 5: over the Bucks, says Tass, what do you have, Trey.

1079
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 8: Well, I got a guy who already has three Finals

1080
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 8: MVPs with three different teams.

1081
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: I'll take the Lakers.

1082
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 8: I got Lebron winning another Finals MVP over the Nets.

1083
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 8: I still think the Lakers are in a class by

1084
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 8: themselves when it comes down to it. There have been

1085
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 8: changes to the role players, and maybe Dennis Shrewder and

1086
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 8: Montrez Harald do bring a different chemistry than Danny Green

1087
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 8: and Jon Rondo Duke, two guys who have long term

1088
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 8: championship experience. You know that is certainly going to matter.

1089
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 8: But the thing that's really going to matter is that

1090
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 8: the Lakers still have two matchup proof players who can

1091
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 8: absolutely dominate inside. Dunking still the best shot in basketball,

1092
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 8: and I think Lebron sees the path right now. He's

1093
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 8: in his prime still somehow, even if it's the extended

1094
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 8: part of his prime. He's on the best team in

1095
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 8: the league with the co star. You don't see that

1096
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 8: always with Lebron. He hasn't always been on the best

1097
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 8: team in the league, but he is right now. They're

1098
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 8: both signed long term. Lebron sees the path to catching

1099
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 8: Michael Jordan. I think both from a titles perspective, from

1100
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 8: a finals MVP perspective, it's on the table right now,

1101
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 8: that's all I'll say. Who knows if he actually gets there,

1102
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 8: And you know, I think seizing that opportunity is going

1103
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 8: to be is gonna be.

1104
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: Huge this season.

1105
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 8: I just I don't see the Lakers letting one slip away.

1106
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 8: They were so into the entire season last year that

1107
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 8: even if they take a little bit of a break

1108
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 8: at the beginning of this year, if they start ramping

1109
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 8: things up in February or March, they'll be right in

1110
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 8: place come June and July.

1111
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 5: All right, Lee, where are you going?

1112
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 6: I tried really hard to make a serious contender out

1113
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 6: of the West other than the Lakers, and I couldn't

1114
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 6: come up with one. You know, you guys know I

1115
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 6: love the Nuggets, but they're just not in the same

1116
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 6: class as the Lakers right now. So it's definitely the

1117
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 6: Lake is So it's in the Eastern Conference where I'm looking,

1118
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 6: and the Nets would be great to see in the finals.

1119
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 6: I think the Heat could sort of again once they

1120
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 6: get to the playoffs. The Heat are a different team altogether.

1121
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 6: The Celtics are a very good team as well, but

1122
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 6: I'm going with the boring pick of the Bucks. I

1123
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 6: want to see it. I want to see Yannas in

1124
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 6: the finals. I want to see him get over these

1125
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 6: obstacles that he's facing the last couple of years, where

1126
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 6: he's facing now he's facing some questions even though he's

1127
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 6: the two time MVP. I want to see him in

1128
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 6: the finals and see how he performs against the Lakers

1129
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 6: because even though Yannas has been slowed down in the playoffs,

1130
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 6: he's in the matchup nightmare as well, and maybe those

1131
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 6: two things a little bit like the Michael Jordan when

1132
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 6: he had to come over overcome the Pistons, maybe he

1133
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 6: just has figured it out and he just understands how

1134
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 6: he can be a better player. I think the Bucks

1135
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 6: Withdrew are a better team. Some big questions about their

1136
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 6: coaching with Mike Budenholzer. But I just really hope we

1137
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 6: see a Lakers Bucks final. But even if we do,

1138
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 6: I still.

1139
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: It's just Lebron.

1140
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 6: Every time you look at Lebron and just think, Akay,

1141
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 6: finally he's going to slow down.

1142
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 7: He loses a game.

1143
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 6: Here, he dropped that first game to the Rockets. They

1144
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 6: lost the game, nearly lost two games to the Nuggets,

1145
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 6: but even then it didn't really feel like the Lakers

1146
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 6: were and not in control. And the same thing in

1147
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 6: the finals, even though the Heat played really well they

1148
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 6: won Game three when it was only Jimmy Butler out there.

1149
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 7: For the Heat. It just you just thought, there's no

1150
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 7: way Lebron's gonna lose four games here. So yeah, boring

1151
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 7: pick Lakers Lebron.

1152
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 6: But it's really hard to make a strong case for

1153
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 6: everyone anyone else in the Western Conference, especially right now.

1154
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's true. Last time we had a shortened season

1155
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 5: two Lebron won a title right with the Heat. So

1156
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 5: we got another one of those, not as shortened, of course,

1157
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 5: but it's only seventy two games.

1158
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: Last year shortened as well won that title.

1159
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, and so eventually what he's gonna catch Jordan,

1160
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 5: He's gonna have six titles. But then the MJ fans

1161
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 5: will say, yeah, but you won three of them in

1162
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 5: short and seas, three of them were half seasons. Yes,

1163
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 5: doesn't even count.

1164
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: So there, you're right.

1165
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I have the.

1166
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 5: Lakers ultimately winning it again. I don't know, rightly, it sucks,

1167
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 5: it's boring. I just can't really talk myself to me.

1168
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 5: It's going to be Lakers or Clippers. As much as

1169
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 5: I love the Nuggets and even the Boezers, I think

1170
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 5: are going to surprise some people. It's gotta be an

1171
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 5: LA team, Oh Lakers versus the seventy six Ers in

1172
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 5: the NBA Finals. I think Doc's gonna, you know, along

1173
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 5: with Maury of course, and the tinkering he I'm sure

1174
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 5: will do throughout the season, making still some moves and

1175
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 5: trying to get more shooting around their two studs. I'll

1176
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 5: get the Sixers going to the finals to take on LA.

1177
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 5: That's a that's a throwback Lee. It was it eighty

1178
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 5: three or something like that. I don't any idea A

1179
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 5: three yeah, yeah, maybe I guess the Sixers won that

1180
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 5: one though, didn't they? But I got the Lakers, Lakers

1181
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 5: and six gimme lebron of for of course another Finals MVP.

1182
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 5: It's boring. I apologize. Maybe you've got a more exciting

1183
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 5: NBA Finals prediction. Let us know in the stream team,

1184
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 5: let us go on Twitter. Okay, final question, we're gonna

1185
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 5: end even sillier. What's your dumbest bold prediction? Trey?

1186
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 8: What do you got I know, I just picked the

1187
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 8: Lakers to win the title, But James Harden is going

1188
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 8: to be traded and whichever team acquires him is gonna

1189
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 8: win the championship.

1190
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 4: Wow.

1191
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 8: We don't know what team it is yet, but there's

1192
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 8: a few that are in the mix. So far, it's

1193
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 8: been the Nets and the Sixers, though they say they're

1194
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 8: out supposed Darryl Moury saying, hey, check my Instagram stories.

1195
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 8: I love Ben Simmons. Who else is in the mix?

1196
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 8: The Bucks allegedly. It doesn't really make a whole bunch

1197
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 8: of sense in the heat. Those are four teams that

1198
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 8: are already in the mix for a title. If you

1199
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 8: add a guy who's an MVP in his prime, I

1200
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 8: don't care if he's bulped up a little bit, he's

1201
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 8: still gonna be able to put thirty thirty five a

1202
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 8: game on you. Whichever team can actually swing at James

1203
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 8: Harden trade, you're winning a title this year.

1204
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: The guy is nails in the playoffs.

1205
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 5: Okay, so what if he stays with the Rockets. To

1206
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 5: the Rockets win a title or no, he has to.

1207
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,959
Speaker 8: Be seasons getting canceled, season getting canceled. If he stays

1208
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 8: with the Rockets, no title. Yeah, I mean the trade

1209
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 8: must happen.

1210
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 6: The one thing that intrigues me a little bit is

1211
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 6: the Miami Heat because it's pat Riley and because it's

1212
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 6: a star, and they get things done. But I just

1213
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 6: wonder how with that contract, how they make it work

1214
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 6: because they just resawn drag it, and I don't believe

1215
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 6: they can trade him straight away. Iguadala has got that option.

1216
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 6: I mean, they can find those pieces to make it happen.

1217
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 4: So did you stop using the trade machine jump off?

1218
00:52:59,239 --> 00:52:59,479
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1219
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I haven't.

1220
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 6: I haven't gone into the trade team, but I just

1221
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 6: sort of feel like I just think there's no way

1222
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 6: he goes to Milwaukee. I think that's completely out of

1223
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 6: the realm possibility, and I think I think Philadelphia is

1224
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 6: the most likely. But I can sort of just see

1225
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 6: pat Riley coming along and just somehow fanangling it and saying,

1226
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 6: all right, we'll take him. Because if he goes to

1227
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 6: Miami and he sort of buys in and follows like

1228
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 6: the way that the Heat play the Heat culture, then

1229
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 6: then the Heat the favorite in the East probably if

1230
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 6: that happens.

1231
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 5: Trades, I mean, you make a good point when you

1232
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 5: go through all the teams that he's linked to, Trey,

1233
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 5: I mean all of these, all of these Eastern Conference

1234
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 5: teams right that he would be potentially being added to.

1235
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 5: I mean the Nets, the Sixers, the Heat, the Bucks. Yeah,

1236
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 5: if James Harden's on that team, if they're not giving

1237
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 5: up even if they are, maybe, but if they're not

1238
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 5: giving up one of their starstar guys, my god, all

1239
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 5: for of those teams could be would automatically be title contenders.

1240
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 5: Most of them are already. So yeah, Harden than the mix. Sure,

1241
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,959
Speaker 5: I like that. It's a bold prediction. Maybe gets traded

1242
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 5: to the Lakers and your double ring. Who would they trade?

1243
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 5: What even contract would make sense? Anthony Davis, hey man,

1244
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 5: thanks for signing. You're adding it, buddy. Well, the Rockets

1245
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 5: reportedly want like a young star player. Just convinced him.

1246
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 5: It's Kyle Kuzma and you're set to go.

1247
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: Or maybe Taylor Alex crusis the next big three right.

1248
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 5: There, there you go. You got Christian Wood bawling out

1249
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 5: in breezes and he looked great twenty seven.

1250
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 6: And Truda, Shrewda Coldwell, Pope and Montrez Horrod's contract would

1251
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 6: probably get it done. But again, well, well this is

1252
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 6: not trade machine. This is just basketball reference cap sheets.

1253
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 6: But just yeah, again, I know that when you just sign,

1254
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 6: you know, let it be traded. I don't think for

1255
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 6: at least three months something like that.

1256
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 5: So anyway, okay, happened at the deadline. They just set

1257
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 5: the deadline March twenty fifth, right, I think that's the report. Okay,

1258
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 5: So that's a nice prediction. If Harden gets traded, that

1259
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 5: team is winning the title instantly. That's a good one.

1260
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 4: Oh, don't go to the don't go to basketball sheets

1261
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 4: for the Miami Heat because there's just no trade that

1262
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: can happen, and it would be the weirdest thing to

1263
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 4: watch a team, a team like the Miami Heat. Everybody moving,

1264
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: no baby, it's like a freaking carousel at a fair.

1265
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: Everybody's moving around. Now it's James Harden just dribbling. It

1266
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 4: just doesn't make sense. He's got to expand his list

1267
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 4: of teams if he's going to get moved. But uh,

1268
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: like the pick. I'm excited to see hard on another team.

1269
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: How that works. Anyway, you might pick for something crazy.

1270
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 4: With the Dallas Mavericks, they've got Lukadanci who can carry

1271
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 4: an offense on his back. But if Chris hops Porzingis

1272
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 4: is injured, or if they're struggling a little bit to

1273
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 4: find some offense. Derk Novitsky comes out of retirement and

1274
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 4: he says, I can't watch this young buck do this

1275
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 4: on his own. I'm gonna hobble up and down the floor.

1276
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 4: He rides into the arena on a horse. He hobbles off,

1277
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 4: He walks up to that basketball floor. He has somebody

1278
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 4: help him take off his sweats because there's no way

1279
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 4: he can bend down and do it. And maybe the

1280
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 4: horse helps him.

1281
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 7: Rips it up teeth.

1282
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Speaker 4: Did he do it with his mouth?

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Speaker 5: I would? I picture Dirk riding him on the horse

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Speaker 5: in his warm ups, plopping off, and then the horse

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00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 5: like rips on his tear aways and rips him off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, brilliant. Yeah. You know, I actually fed a horse

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00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 4: this past week, and I thought those big chompers were

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00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 4: gonna chop my hand off. But they're gentle.

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Speaker 5: They they're pretty delicate. Yeah, yeah, they're smart ass.

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00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 4: They know this human bone is not something I want

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Speaker 4: to eat, So yeah, I think he can. Dirk doesn't

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Speaker 4: have to worry about any of his parts.

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Speaker 2: I heard that.

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00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 5: Gordon Hayward broke his finger by trying to feed a horse.

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Speaker 4: Well, what's funny is that LaMelo ball owns a race

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Speaker 4: horse named Lamello. Yeah, so maybe he was trying to

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Speaker 4: feed Lamello. Anyway, Dirk comes and helps out Luca, they

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Speaker 4: win some games. That's a crazy one that won't happen.

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Speaker 5: What do you have, Lely?

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00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 2: Can you one up that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I sort of alluded to him one of vlially of

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00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 6: preview shows, Andrew Wiggins will lead the Warriors in scoring.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, hey, Wiggins island baby.

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Speaker 6: I can just see this is the sort of situation

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Speaker 6: where all you have to do is score, man, don't

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Speaker 6: do anything else. And uh and the Warriors will will

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00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 6: facilitate that for you. So you know, Steph is obviously

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00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 6: going to lead them in scoring. But I'm just gonna say,

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Speaker 6: I think Wiggins averages twenty seven a game, Steph twenty five,

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00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 6: and and and it's like we're all on board again.

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Speaker 7: Wiggins is back. Wiggins is back.

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Speaker 6: That's all he does. Scores and shoots and tips in

1314
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 6: and gets allie oops and dunks and does it all.

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Speaker 6: But he does it enough to lead the Warriors in scoring.

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Speaker 7: Let's do it.

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Speaker 4: Let's get crazy.

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Speaker 5: If Wiggins led the Warriors in scoring you said average

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Speaker 5: twenty seven, would Wiggins be in the running for Most

1320
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 5: Improved Player He couldn't win.

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Speaker 2: It might be that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it'd have to be All Star as well. Imagine

1323
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 6: the buzz about Andrew Wiggins All Star.

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Speaker 7: Wouldn't that be?

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Speaker 5: Also, I can't believe you're doubling and tripling down on

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Speaker 5: this and I love that you're on Wiggans Island love.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what.

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 7: It must be the biceps it got me, It.

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00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: Must be this man is a sucker shoulder it is

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 6: It's just like, okay, yeah right, you've got me, now, Andy,

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Speaker 6: go out there and do it.

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Speaker 7: Baby.

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Speaker 2: He loves a sculptured shoulder.

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Speaker 5: But you've never been a rondo fan. That's what I've

1336
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 5: never been.

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Speaker 4: Able to do.

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Speaker 7: They're disincortionate, they're disproportionately.

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Speaker 4: See.

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00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 7: It's like it's like Eric Bledsoe.

1341
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,919
Speaker 6: It's Eric Bledsoe's got those just gigantic, almost like photoshopped

1342
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 6: shoulders on his on his body. But he hasn't really

1343
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 6: done the rest of the of the upper body workouts

1344
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 6: through the pictorials okay, and the.

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Speaker 2: Traps my ball prediction.

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna stick with some Weggie talk. We haven't

1347
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 5: talked wedgies and soul. Yeah, we're short ten games this year.

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Speaker 2: It won't matter.

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Speaker 5: We're hitting fifty. Oh, we are hitting fifty. Something's going to.

1350
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: Be going on.

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00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 5: Uh, you know in all these arenas with no fans

1352
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 5: and the sight lines are going to be strange. I

1353
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 5: think the shooting is going to be a little off.

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00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 5: These guys are rusty. A lot of these teams haven't

1355
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 5: even played in whatever eight nine months or whatever they

1356
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 5: it is. We're getting to we're gonna start hot. I'm

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Speaker 5: predicting that we're gonna start very hot with the Weggie count.

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00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 5: We're gonna get out to a huge start, and then

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00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 5: it's gonna get like a little dicey as we get

1360
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 5: into the playoffs. But fifty, lock it in. We're hitting

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00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 5: it for the second time. Only, right, we've only done

1362
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 5: it once. What do we end up getting close to it?

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00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 5: We got close last year right in the end. Was

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00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 5: it forty six?

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00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 8: So we know that.

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00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 4: Man, I don't think we got close.

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00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 7: I thought it was only forty three.

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Speaker 6: I think that was a little because we had a

1369
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 6: couple we had like three in like two days of something.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, maybe maybe with forty four then I thought

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00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 5: I could have sworn it was over forty three. But anyway,

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00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 5: we're getting to fifty this year. That's my bold, dumb

1373
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 5: prediction because we're the only one that cares about weggies,

1374
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 5: so we still care.

1375
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 7: Damn.

1376
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 5: It's still real to me.

1377
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 7: All right.

1378
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 5: That's it. That's the burning questions. Always fun these season

1379
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Speaker 5: preview podcasts. If this is the first one you're listening to, man,

1380
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 5: go back, listen to part one, two, three, and four.

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Speaker 5: Drop them earlier this week. Just subscribe to No Dunks

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00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 5: wherever you listen to your podcast. I actually have one

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00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 5: more question because I threw it up on Twitter guys

1384
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 5: right before we did this show. This random question. I'm

1385
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 5: not really putting you on the spot. Who's a guy,

1386
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 5: a current player of course, that you just sort of

1387
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 5: like totally forgot about and maybe his name has popped

1388
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 5: up in a preseason game where you saw a highlight

1389
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 5: or something like. For me, it was Gorgeye Jang. I

1390
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 5: was like, oh god, wow, I forgot about him. He plays,

1391
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 5: he's on a team. I mean, yeah, that's right. I

1392
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 5: know it's a team. You would maybe I had forgotten.

1393
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 5: He was even on who did Do you have a

1394
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 5: guy that you're just like Eric Gordon? I'll have to

1395
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 5: admit too, was sort of like I was like Eric Gordon.

1396
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's signed a massive extension.

1397
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 4: He's there.

1398
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know you're a fan, so maybe you

1399
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 5: hadn't forgot about him.

1400
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 4: Now people forgot about him. I think I picked him

1401
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 4: in like one hundred and twentieth in my fantasy league.

1402
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 4: Oh nobody was picking a nice.

1403
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 5: Little still there deep in your fantasy league? Is there

1404
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 5: another guy that you're just like, wow, oh, yeah him.

1405
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 8: We've all been spending our time talking about Bogue Dan Bogdanovic,

1406
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 8: but what about oh yeah, yeah, two of them out there.

1407
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 8: He was actually a vital piece of the Jazz last year.

1408
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 8: Didn't play in the bubble, could have used him, might

1409
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 8: not have blown a three one lead good Pickleep.

1410
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 4: Had a nice highlight yesterday as well. Above the head

1411
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 4: A little toss up that's gay is a shooter? Well

1412
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 4: Tony snell I smell.

1413
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 7: That he's Atlanta. Isn't he the horse?

1414
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 4: He's in Atlanta? Three point shooter? He's average about forty

1415
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 4: percent the last four years. Will he do it on

1416
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 4: the Hawks, no doubt, there's just too many guys.

1417
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 5: A little sniff into the make for a little Tony smell.

1418
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 7: All right, do you have Well?

1419
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 6: Bruno is still in the league, believe it or not.

1420
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 6: You know, Bruno has bounced around, He's traveled around. He

1421
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 6: was two years away from two years away, ten years ago.

1422
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 7: He's on the Rockets roster.

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01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's I think it's probably just

1424
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 6: a non guarantee, but he's just hanging on.

1425
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: He's hanging on.

1426
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 7: For dear life, Bruno. So yeah, good luck to him.

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01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: Okay, just threw that.

1428
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 4: One in there, Big Nate one Nate. I don't know

1429
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 4: what Nate it was, but he had a big in

1430
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 4: the preseason.

1431
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 8: We're getting some great answers in the stream, teams playing

1432
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 8: what about this guy? Reggie Bollock says, Clarence good Jake says,

1433
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 8: Langston Galloway, Langston Galloway. What's on helican team last year?

1434
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 8: Diego says nor Well. He just says nor Well, what

1435
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 8: was that?

1436
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,479
Speaker 2: Norwell? Darius Miller fon maker is he back?

1437
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 6: Baby?

1438
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1439
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 8: Sambo of course is getting some some mentions here. Justin

1440
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 8: Anderson a starter's favorite back in the day.

1441
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: Frank the Tank. I think that's a Frank Kaminsky shut out.

1442
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: Does he have a team yet? I can't believe the

1443
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: Sons gave up on him.

1444
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 7: He's Sacramento. I think he went to Sacramento.

1445
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got White Side Kominski.

1446
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Okay. Who is Norwell?

1447
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 8: I can't wait to see what normal season there is?

1448
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 8: Zach Norwell, May Norvell, Zach Norvell?

1449
01:02:54,520 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, the first novel. Alright, let's call it there.

1450
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,800
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Speaker 5: You're CUsing your comments for our first beach step in

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Speaker 5: of the new season that's coming up on Monday. We

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Speaker 5: got a special guest already locked in for Tuesday's podcast.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna leave it at that. Very excited for that

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Speaker 5: guest on Tuesday, because here's the plan. We will be

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Speaker 5: podcasting all next week right up until Christmas Day. We'll

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Speaker 5: take off the twenty fifth, but task set it we'll

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Speaker 5: no Dunks content You're coming your way over the next

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Speaker 5: let's be honest, we take off usually at Christmas for

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Speaker 5: Maybe I was gonna say it would be back tomorrow

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Speaker 5: with more burning questions, but nope, I kept that in

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Speaker 5: from yesterday's document. So we will be back tomorrow. We'll

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Speaker 2: With a oh RT guest, a goreat.

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Speaker 5: my mind.

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Speaker 2: I looking up something nice here.

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Speaker 5: I left that one in the oven tray. My bad.

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Speaker 5: I've earned that one. So we will have a special

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Speaker 4: as former New York Nick Ron Baker both will love

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Speaker 4: Saturday's podcast. Make sure you check it out.

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Speaker 5: Embrace the weekend people, you could.

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Speaker 4: Stay boom every day and Daggie happy every minuting.

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Speaker 2: It's been so long that your the wana way.

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Speaker 4: It's happened already.

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