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Speaker 1: Hey gets stuck, goli. Welcome into this week's version of

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Speaker 1: All Ball, All Basketball, all the Time, and uh, let's

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Speaker 1: get you ready for the n c A Tournament. But

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Speaker 1: before we do so, before we do so, let's talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit, just a little bit about some of

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Speaker 1: the other issues in the sport, most notably a couple

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Speaker 1: of the firings. I'm not one of these guys that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do the fake outrage over every coach that is fired.

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Speaker 1: We've kind of discussed this a little bit in the past.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tim Miles has just such a great balanced

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Speaker 1: way about him where he's just like, hey, look, you know,

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Speaker 1: did I want to keep the job? Yeah? But if

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Speaker 1: I don't, I'm a millionaire and I'll have to go

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Speaker 1: back and find another job. Um. So there is a

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Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean I want him to be fired.

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Speaker 1: I mean between Jimmulinary who played for my dad, uh

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Speaker 1: and Mike Lewis, who's a close personal friend of mine. Um,

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Speaker 1: I would just sit there and tell you, hey, I

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Speaker 1: think those are really good guys. And they won thirteen

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Speaker 1: games in the Big Ten last year when there's only

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Speaker 1: eighteen games. Obviously this year is much more of a struggle.

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Speaker 1: But regardless of my relationships with any any one of

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Speaker 1: these different coaches, I would I would point this out

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Speaker 1: that there are different jobs and different Some of the

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Speaker 1: firings makes sense they do. It doesn't make it cool

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Speaker 1: that I don't doesn't mean I'm okay with it, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you'd like to see people get fired, Like, no, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't think they've done a good job, or in all candor,

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Speaker 1: they might not be their boss's guy. And so that's

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Speaker 1: that's another reason that they that they lose their job.

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Speaker 1: So the idea that every coaching firing is wrong is

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Speaker 1: in fact wrong. It just is. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: the idea that every coaching firing is right. You know. Also,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's ever gotta be a reason, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: the reasons are bizarre. I'll just start with this, and

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Speaker 1: this is really really important, um, what you take over,

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Speaker 1: who you work for. You know, I have lots of

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Speaker 1: friends and many of you guys are downloading the show

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Speaker 1: and you're still kind of looking for your first ever

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Speaker 1: head coaching job. I would include myself in that mix,

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Speaker 1: although I'm not. I wouldn't necessarily say I'm actively actively

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Speaker 1: people you just take a lot of times. You you

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Speaker 1: like to take a job, right, just take a job

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Speaker 1: because you don't know when the next job be open.

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Speaker 1: You don't know when you'll have that next Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: get it because of relationships. Sometimes you get it because

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Speaker 1: the proximity to where you work. Sometimes you get it

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Speaker 1: because of the hot streak that you're on as a team.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, sometimes when you take second jobs,

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Speaker 1: oftentimes you know these mistakes are in fact preventable, and

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Speaker 1: those preventable mistakes are you know, be careful who you're

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Speaker 1: Let's take Marvin Menzi. Okay, Marvin Menz's a perfect example.

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Speaker 1: He got fired at you and o V after just

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Speaker 1: three years. It's not just that he got fired after

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Speaker 1: that I hired him is no longer there. It's not

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Speaker 1: just that he wasn't the first choice. He actually wasn't

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Speaker 1: it's really rough, um and there is something too. Hey,

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Speaker 1: But I think, considering what he inherited, and again I'm

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Speaker 1: to Phil Martelli at Saint Joe's, who's there thirty four

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Speaker 1: I don't have any necessary connections with Martelli per se.

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Speaker 1: Going back to two thousand four, he respected you so

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Speaker 1: This is how you should implement your One of the

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Speaker 1: great film. Martelly is, um is in the spring, have

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Speaker 1: and I'll grant you that, yes, he was an institution.

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Speaker 1: Just because the institution doesn't mean he can't be fired

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Speaker 1: is in college this long because he's a He's an

426
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Speaker 1: undersized two guard that scores and doesn't do much else.

427
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Speaker 1: So I don't, I don't know. I guess. I guess

428
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Speaker 1: my thing is, Um, Yeah, I think it was a

429
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Speaker 1: little disappointing, but I also think us assuming that their

430
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 1: talent is so great, I'm not sure. I I l J.

431
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: Figaro is probably their second most talented player. Um, but

432
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Speaker 1: he's at JC transfer. I don't. I don't know. Maybe

433
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Speaker 1: there's a reason that he was in jurichal right, so

434
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 1: so defender in the Big East. Yeah, I mean, I guess,

435
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Speaker 1: But but why did he leave? Why did the Arizona

436
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 1: Why do you leave Arizona? Well, I mean I think

437
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: there's a there's a that's a completely separate topic. Like

438
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 1: I think Arizona one. I think maturity wise, he wasn't

439
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: quite ready and it just wasn't a good fit. But

440
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Speaker 1: I mean he's a help the best, he's the best

441
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: defender in the league. Yeah. I get what you're saying, though,

442
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: Like they're not super deep, so I kind of understand

443
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. Yeah, and and like they have

444
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: good college pleasure, but so does Arizona State. Like Arizona

445
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 1: State has really good athletes, you know, and um so,

446
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: and you know it's it's we do this in college sports.

447
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: We do this in professional sports. We act like you're

448
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: the only team trying and if you're not trying, if

449
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: you don't win, it's only because of your failings, whereas

450
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: like sometimes hey, the other guys trying to you know, um, okay.

451
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: So it sets up Bobby Hurley versus Natotes And you know,

452
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 1: I covered that Buffalo his Bobby's last Buffalo game when

453
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Speaker 1: they when they lost in the n c A Tournament,

454
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: and Bobby would tell me like, hey, man, I let

455
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: Nate coach a lot. And Nate has become this rising star. Um,

456
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the games itself. Does NATO's stay at

457
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo after this season? I don't think that there's gonna

458
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: be a ton of stuff opening up this year that

459
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Speaker 1: said there might you know, let's let's do hypothetical here,

460
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Speaker 1: because I think that that we both know that there's

461
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Speaker 1: a lot of buzz around buzz Williams going to Texas

462
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Speaker 1: A and m If you're Virginia Tech. You know, I

463
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Speaker 1: think you take a strong look at NATO's, probably take

464
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Speaker 1: a strong look at Ryan Odum and a couple other guys.

465
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Speaker 1: But I think NATO's would be in a heavy play there. Um.

466
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Speaker 1: But outside of that, like what else, what else opens up?

467
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Speaker 1: I think it depends, but I think you would be

468
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Speaker 1: a strong play there. I don't think it's so. The

469
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Speaker 1: great thing about having you on tonight to night before

470
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Speaker 1: the n c A Tournament, of course, is going to

471
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Speaker 1: drop tomorrow the day of the first day of the

472
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Speaker 1: n A Tournament is John Calipari came out with a

473
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Speaker 1: tweet basically saying, hey, let's put this thing to bed.

474
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going anywhere. But it was a

475
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Speaker 1: real rumor there was. We have there's legitimate college basketball

476
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Speaker 1: people talking about U c l A making some ridiculous

477
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: offer he couldn't refuse. Correct. Yeah, I mean I think that.

478
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Speaker 1: I think where their legitimacy was is I think that

479
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: U c l A is interested in him, was legitimate

480
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Speaker 1: what they were going to offer. I don't know. I mean,

481
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Speaker 1: I just have trouble seeing that they could possibly come

482
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Speaker 1: into that ballpark. But keep in mind, and I just

483
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: tweeted this. Kenny Payne, Kentucky associate head coach, makes nine

484
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a year. Do you know what the

485
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Speaker 1: allotment for assistant coaches for for all of Steve Alfred's

486
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: whole staff was. I'm not a million, No, seven hundred

487
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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars. A hundred and fifty thousand dollars

488
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Speaker 1: less than one coach at Kentucky. So like I'm getting

489
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Speaker 1: like blown up on Twitter or by u c l

490
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: A fans and saying that they have this money. But like,

491
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Speaker 1: if you're if that's what your salary allotment is for

492
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: your for your staff, what kind of commitment does that

493
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Speaker 1: show to your basketball program? I'm thinking about it. There's

494
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: there's um Kenny pay dollars. Well that that's the big

495
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: thing that I think the other thing that people don't

496
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Speaker 1: realize about U c l A um and they just

497
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: think that, well it's the u c l A. They'll

498
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: just throw money at them, and maybe that maybe that

499
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Speaker 1: they're going to try and throw money at this problem,

500
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: but they never have previously. And then I don't even

501
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Speaker 1: think there's a reality with like you mentioned, Kenny Payne

502
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Speaker 1: making nine grand um, but Kenny and also makes nine

503
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Speaker 1: hundre grand and Lexington, which like that's that's the equivalent

504
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: to one five or two in l A, right, I mean,

505
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Speaker 1: let's just kind of be honest with um. That's the

506
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Speaker 1: biggest thing. Football always had this issue. Whereas even USC,

507
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Speaker 1: if you offer the exact same amount of USC, USC

508
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: will give guys give assistant coaches interest free loans so

509
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: that they can live in Manhattan Beach, whereas you know,

510
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: the u C. L A coaches they're living out in

511
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: Timbuck two. Because even if you make three hundred, three

512
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: hundred fifty dollars in assistant football coach, like that's not

513
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: killing in l A that you can't live in bel Air.

514
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: You can't live in even in Sino with that much.

515
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: I actually so so as you know, I lived in

516
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Speaker 1: Lexington for ten years and at one point I looked

517
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: at moving too, l A. Manhattan Beach is like my

518
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: favorite place in the world. If you have a hundred

519
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: thousand dollars salary in Lexington, parably like the calculator, you

520
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: need to be making five hundred and twenty thousands to

521
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: be equivalent and live in Manhattan Beach. So more than

522
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: the cost of living is more than five times. That's amazing.

523
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: So so who stuff Like you saw his tweet Like

524
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm sure he just

525
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: used u C. L A to go get a race,

526
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: which is what they all do. Um okay, so so

527
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: so so what's ay? I just I can't see Tony Bennett.

528
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: I can't see him building Virginia into this kind of

529
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: perfect utopia. You know, he turned down Wisconsin where his dad,

530
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: his parents live, you know, in a state that he

531
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: grew up and granted, not the resources of l A.

532
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: But he just doesn't strike me as a so cow guy.

533
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't strike me as a guy who, all right,

534
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: let's start over, let's do it the right way. And

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Speaker 1: I just I I understand why u C would want

536
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Speaker 1: to hire him, But I don't know why he would

537
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: want to leave Virginia other than hey, it's at some

538
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: point you're tired of playing Carolina Duke Louisville, Syracuse. But

539
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: it hasn't hurt. That's not what hurts. Has hurt his

540
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: program is What's the only thing that's hurt his program

541
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: is they haven't won in the n A tournament. That's it.

542
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: So do you think Tony Bennett legitimately will pay attention

543
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: to it. I think he would be I think he

544
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: would be wise to take the phone call. Um, and

545
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if we saw Tony Bennett and

546
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: the you know on the u C. Ling sideline next year.

547
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't necessarily see him as you know,

548
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: the SOCl guy. And he also seems pretty content in Virginia.

549
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean keep in mind, like Tony is like a

550
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: pretty to himself, buried down to earth, just kind of

551
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: a quiet guy. Like I see him as liking you know,

552
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: if you've been in Charlottesville, a nice place, but it's

553
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: like it's quaint. It's like there's there's not a lot

554
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: of going on compared to a city like u C.

555
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: L A. It seems to fit his personality. And I

556
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: mean that in the most complimentary way, no question, no question.

557
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: It's got just enough of a little bit of everything,

558
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: right there's Um. I always I had an affinity for Virginia.

559
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: That was the first major school, high major school to

560
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: offer me a scholarship, and Jeff Jones is there, and um,

561
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, I started doing research and it was a

562
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: kid and I was like, man, this is It's like

563
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: I told people about about Notre Dame. It's like going

564
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: to school in the museum, right, Like, but this build,

565
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: this building is how old and who designed it? Like,

566
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: it's kind of amazing. You do stop and kick yourself.

567
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 1: It's pretty something, pretty special he's been able to built there.

568
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: I just don't know, Like I get the U c

569
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: l A thing. You know, my brother and sister went there.

570
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: I've been to a million games there. I just don't

571
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: know if I don't know, So okay, So let's say

572
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: Tony doesn't take it, who does well? The other names

573
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: that I've heard, UMU, the UM, Mick Cronin, Mike Hopkins.

574
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: You know, there's been rumors out there about Mike Bray.

575
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know about that. UM. But those

576
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: would be the names that I've heard. Now how legitimate

577
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: those are, I don't know, but those come from, you know,

578
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: industry sources that we all talked to. The Hopkins thing

579
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: is interesting. Obviously, he's done a nice job at Washington

580
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: and he is a southern California guy. Uh. It seems

581
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: like a massive jump after such a short period time.

582
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Massive massive jump, Bray feels. Bray does not feel like

583
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: West Coast and obviously they're not coming off of a

584
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: great year. Maybe that doesn't matter because he's done more

585
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame than anybody since Digger, and you could

586
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: maybe even argue more than Digger, especially in the n

587
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: c A tournament. Um, I just don't know if any

588
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: of those makes sense. They make people want to go

589
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: to a u c l A game. So we went,

590
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: and I like, like like Mick, but I don't see

591
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: Mick as an l A guy. I think he's perfect

592
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: where he is. You know, there, went there, he's from there,

593
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: like they're really good coaches, but not It doesn't make

594
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: him a good fit. It doesn't mean they wouldn't win,

595
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: but they would run into the same issues everybody runs

596
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: into at u c l A, which is, you justn't

597
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: kind of that kind of kind of guy, that kind

598
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: of kind of guy. I don't know what it is. Um,

599
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: so like if it's if you don't think, I guess

600
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, Pettina would have been perfect before

601
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: all this. Pettina would have been perfect for before all

602
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: this stuff. You know, I agree he I don't think

603
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: he would have ever left. Louis would go to u

604
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: c l A. If like his his parting of ways

605
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: had been more amicable then and he was not coaching

606
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: at Louisville, then I agree. I mean, Tina would have

607
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: been great anywhere. I think he's the best of all

608
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: to be honest, to be honest with you, like, I

609
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: actually think he's probably the best all around in the

610
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: last you know, even better than coach k to be

611
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: totally honest, because his teams, he's he's changed his styles

612
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: multiple times, but he also was an innovator in terms

613
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: of embracing the three point shot, pressing you know, into

614
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: the various zones. You know, his offenses evolved. Um and

615
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: like look he's shown huh So sorry, I don't mean

616
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: to cut you off, say I was going to add

617
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: to that. Like the truth is is he's oftentimes done

618
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: more with less. Yes, like his player and development guys

619
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: have gotten better. Like think about the team that he

620
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: won a title with, Like h Gordon was like a

621
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: top fifty player. Um, and he's been in the NBA

622
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. But like Ruff Ruff Smith, I mean,

623
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: coming out of high school, Rus Smith was just kind

624
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: of known as a shot chapter and I mean he

625
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: still did that a little college. But like he had

626
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: that dude role in Peyton Fever was he was the

627
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: top fifty type players from in high school. But I

628
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: mean Luke hancocky took a transfer like he's like he

629
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: just consistently you're right on the innovative and changed his

630
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: style and consistently. I thought from uh, um, you know,

631
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't going out and getting top ten dudes. Well people,

632
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: but people forget, people forget when they were in Kentucky.

633
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: I mean he handed Tubby another championship, but I mean

634
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: they were so ridiculously loaded right like when you gave

635
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: him Kentucky, like he was cow before cow back when

636
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: before guys had one and duns. He was loading up.

637
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean he just loaded his team's up um and

638
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: a corps. There was providence that he took to the

639
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: final four. So I actually think he's the he's the

640
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: honest of the best all around coach and he's a

641
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: great game coach as well a tactician. Yes, it's amazing

642
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: he speaks at this level. He's a microphone when I've

643
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: been and he speaks at this level, and it's like

644
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: a clinic. It's like watching a clinic. Um u um

645
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: the porter Porter moser to u and l V, the

646
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: rumors he turned it down right and Porters waiting on

647
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: what he's Alma Monter Creighton. If the FBI think gets

648
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: big or De Paul, which isn't going to open this year,

649
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: is that is that fair? Is that a fair? Guess?

650
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: That would that makes sense? I don't know. I mainally

651
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: don't know enough about the situation, but that would make sense. Yeah,

652
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: it's weird though, to turn down you. I think if

653
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: he turns out un l V and he's at Loyola

654
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: of Chicago, I don't I think the nvi's it looks

655
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: it's screwy. Yeah, did they have to win now because

656
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: the NFL is coming and maybe the NBA is coming.

657
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: Tune probably, But there's a lot of things you can

658
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: do it. You know you can do it. I think

659
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: you can do it relatively the right way. I think

660
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: you get players. Um. I think it's a great town.

661
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: I think it's better to raise a family and than

662
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: people think. Although maybe that he's because he's a Misswestern guy,

663
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: but and they haven't had a great tactical coach maybe

664
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: ever like and you think, like, look if you give

665
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: him super super talented players and he can get him

666
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: to play his way. I don't know. I can't like

667
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: loyal Chicago just seems like such a tough job. I

668
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: don't get it. Yeah, it's it is. It is a

669
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: tough job. I think you also have to be careful

670
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: to like you can miss your window, you can you know,

671
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: you made a tournament last year this year, but obviously

672
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: a very good coach. Um. I mean, I still don't

673
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: think it's a long I don't think what a loyal

674
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: Chicago for long term like I think because he is

675
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: a guy that's ready for a big job. What's the

676
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: big job he's talking about. Yeah, it's a it's a

677
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: great question. All right, let's get to here. Here's I

678
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: want to do. I'm just gonna give the game. Let's

679
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: just talk out these games cool enough, and then and

680
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: then and then you can go and party, you can

681
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: go hang with your boys in Vegas. All right, here's

682
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Let's let's start in in um

683
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: chronological order in terms of when they'll begin. Minnesota, Louisville.

684
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: My first glance at this one Louisville, that things jumped

685
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: up to a five point deal for Louisville. I've seen Minnesota.

686
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: I've seen him both in person. Um, I think I

687
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: think they're both. Actually, actually, I've been growing to really

688
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: like Richard Petino. I don't know how much you know him.

689
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: I find him to be really funny, very self deprecating,

690
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: the exact opposite of what you would think Rick Petito's

691
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: son would be. Like you'd think he'd be pretentious and

692
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: full of himself, and he's not funny. Yeah, And I

693
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: think he kind of gets it. And I don't think

694
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: he takes himself super seriously and he's done a nice job.

695
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: I just I just don't think they have the shooting.

696
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: And where they're good, Louisville is probably better. Right where

697
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: Minnesota is good is in that front court and they're

698
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: they're shooting is definitely a concern, probably the biggest concern Richards.

699
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: Even Richard brought that up to me earlier in the year.

700
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: But they're good, like when a mere coffee is good,

701
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: because like you know, he's gonna DeValve around the tin.

702
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: He gets in a foul trouble sometimes, but when like

703
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: a mere coffee is rolling, they're very good. They what

704
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: they're missing, too, is sitting over on the bench, and

705
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: that's Marcus Carr. He was a transfer the afire and

706
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: get eligible. Yeah, they needed another ball handler. Um and

707
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: they think he's like they think he's a point guard

708
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: though I don't think he's a point guard. You he's

709
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: he's a combo. He's a he's a combo. But he

710
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: can he can play with the ball in the fans.

711
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: And they needed another guy they didn't. You know, it's

712
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: pretty clear they don't trust Idea Washington. No is the

713
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: Washington's basically Washington's basically out of the rotation now too.

714
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: So they're playing you know, they're playing with dupre mcbreer

715
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: and and they're playing a mirror Coffee as the backup

716
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: point guard. Yeah, right, exactly. He plays with moll in

717
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: his hands quite a bit. You know what's good as

718
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: a two freshman two ruined Gabe Kessler, those two hary players.

719
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: I completely agree. And then they have a what's the

720
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: super athletic freshman too that he didn't play that much.

721
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: They got another big They have another big kid. Yeah,

722
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 1: he um O Marca and he'll he'll I think he'll

723
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: like slide in for Georgian Murphy obviously big shoes to fill,

724
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: but he like he didn't play a time for him

725
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: this year, but I think next year he'll slide into

726
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: that role more. I really like I like Jordan Wara,

727
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: I mean, and and you know the guy who I

728
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: can't believe only plays nineteen minutes a game is Stevien

729
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: Enoch Like that dude is so skilled. I kind of

730
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: don't understand why they don't play him more. Well, he's

731
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: he's skilled, but he's a little ink and assistant. And

732
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: but he's built like a Greek god. He's got hands,

733
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: he's got nice touch. I think he just goes in lasses.

734
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: But I think another year in college, Like I think,

735
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: I think you could play in the NBA, no question,

736
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: no question. Um, okay, So who do you like in

737
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: the game? Um? I picked I picked Louisville, but I

738
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: I honestly could see it going either way. Close game.

739
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: All right. Here's one that everybody's talking about is the

740
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 1: potential upset. Have you seen Yale in person? I have not. Okay,

741
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: so I've seen him on I've only seen him on tape.

742
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: And they're pretty athletic for for for an IVY League team. Um,

743
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: and they're taken on L s U? Who l s U?

744
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: When they walk into the gym, it's all like Florida State.

745
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: You're like, damn, they got some dudes and they have

746
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: you know, they're not the They're not the classic team

747
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: with dudes that doesn't have a good point guard. They

748
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: have a really good point guard in Traymont Waters. This

749
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: is a a lot of people picking this is an upset.

750
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: Do you see that happening? Well, I think it's possible. Like, look,

751
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: Ellis Sho doesn't have their coach right now. It's like,

752
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: you know, you take I guess this is probably like

753
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: a dramatic way to put You take Phil Jackson off

754
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: the bowls? Are they the same? I don't know. You

755
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: take Will Wade off there. I mean obviously they're they're athletic,

756
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: they have talent, but you're they don't have their coach.

757
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: So I I actually think from that standpoint, like they're

758
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: susceptible to Yale Or's. It could be Maryland, it could

759
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: be Belmont, any of those. I could see. It's just

760
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: hard for me. I can't pick them to go for

761
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: in the tournament cause they don't have their head coach. Yeah,

762
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: so I certainly could be buying that Yale knock them off.

763
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Now they could also come out and just overwhelm you

764
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: with their athleticism and just natural talent. But you know,

765
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: Yale's pretty good. Um, I can't say the same properly.

766
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: They got a pretty good forward prospect. Yeah what? Um

767
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: uh what I mean there's I can't see a way

768
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: in which he coaches again, there can you? On the

769
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 1: other hand, I mean like maybe it's different, but Bruce

770
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: Pearl refused to talk to his president and he won

771
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: the SEC tournament championship. Um, but it feels like this

772
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: is different. If Yahoo Sports it seems to have you know,

773
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: somebody has heard of tape and his voice is on it.

774
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see that happening for him. How

775
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: do you What are you hearing in terms of how

776
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: it plays out? Yeah, well I haven't necessarily like heard

777
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: anything one way or other. But like when you're when

778
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: you were examining the situation, you see l s U

779
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 1: the day after Um, this all came out when they

780
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: suspended they suspended him. I think they acted so quickly

781
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: that they don't have a choice now, Like they can't

782
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: unsuspend him. And I don't think that he'll ever be

783
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: able to prove himself guilty or innocent. I don't think

784
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna ever be able to prove if he did

785
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: or didn't pay anyone, So then it becomes his word verstairs.

786
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: And I also like, I understand why he's not talking

787
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: to administration because that's what his warners told him to do. No,

788
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: I get that, I get that there's I get that

789
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: there's probably no proof of an actual transaction, like one

790
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: of the things that seems to be missing here, and

791
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: that no one and maybe you can speak to this

792
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: because is look, I remember when I was a kid,

793
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: guys were talking about huge numbers and what they were getting. Now,

794
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: with all those huge numbers, the only guy who ever

795
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: quote unquote got paid with jo lonni Gardner, right, and

796
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: he got thirty grand. Now, that was a lot of

797
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: money that brought down. That was when Todd Boseman was there, Right,

798
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: Todd Boseman just got fired today at Morgan State and

799
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: that whole program went down because of it. But the

800
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: point I was getting to was, I remember guys are

801
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: then back then this is in dudes were like, well

802
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm getting seventy five. I'm getting it was a lot

803
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: of it was a lot of bullshit. It was a

804
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: lot of big talk. So again that doesn't mean guys

805
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: aren't getting paid. But I also know that, Like I've

806
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: been around basketball enough to know that people say things like,

807
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: we'll take care of them, you know, we'll do whatever

808
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: it takes. With the idea in mind, I think the

809
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: players think, well, that means I'm gonna get paid, and

810
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: the reality to it is no payment has ever made.

811
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: So I do think that there is a possibility that

812
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: there was never a transaction. The problem is that I

813
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: don't There doesn't have to be in order to look

814
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: bad in order for you to be fired for it. Yeah,

815
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: of course I agree with that. I mean, I think

816
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: that there's hundreds of conversations every year where someone to

817
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: ask for something and a coach wants to stay on

818
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: that kid's list, so they are vague but say what

819
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: they want to hear. It's, oh, yeah, well we'll work

820
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: it out one day. Now obviously what was heard on

821
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: those wire tasks was stronger than we'll work it out

822
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: one day. But you get what I'm going with this, Like,

823
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: there there are plenty of coaches that will say what

824
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: they have to say to stay on a kid's list.

825
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: So maybe down the road when he's getting closer decision

826
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: other stuff falls through and they're still there. That makes sense.

827
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: M totally totally makes sense, absolutely makes sense. Um have

828
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: you seen New Mexico Nexto State play? Um a little?

829
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: And I know offensively they're pretty impressive shooting the ball.

830
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: And I think Christian's a really good coach, really good coach,

831
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: like really really good. You know, he was at Wichita

832
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: State when they beat Gonzaga and they went to the

833
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: to the final four, and he was, you know, he

834
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: had I thought he you ever know, and I know

835
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: he got in trouble bulling Green, and I think he's

836
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: gotten clean's gotten clean sins. I don't know if he

837
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: doesn't drink at all now or whatever. I do know

838
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: that he's you know, we all know I lost the

839
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: bowling Green job. But I remember um watching them practice.

840
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: I get and Greg was great to me and he'd

841
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: let me sitting in on film session and I remember like,

842
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: I was really impressed by Jan's And then they beat

843
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: Gonzaga and they're like, Godlib you're coming back, are you?

844
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: And Spireau, you're celebrating with us? And we went and

845
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: we had Spiro Didus is a big Scotch guy. At

846
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: the time. I don't know if he still is. And

847
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: we drank some scotch and then we went upstairs, we

848
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: hung out with them, and he was uncomfortably drunk, like

849
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: he was. I was like, you know, like, we've only

850
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: been around a guy a couple of nights, but the

851
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: one night you're around him and they're drinking, he's drinking drink,

852
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: He's he's had so much to drink. And he said

853
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: some things that were like, this is not the first

854
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: time the guy has been uncomfortably drunk. That said, I

855
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: think he's a hell of a coach. And you know,

856
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: I wonder how long he last, said to Mexico State,

857
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: because somebody else is gonna go like, yeah, he doesn't

858
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 1: drink anymore, just passed those problems. I guess my question

859
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: is Auburn has done a lot with a little right.

860
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: They'll tell you that like, look, we're not as talented

861
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: as we were last year, but we're a better team

862
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: this year in case in point the SEC SEC Tournament championship.

863
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: But I don't think this is a night and day

864
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: in terms of town. I love Jared Harper. I think

865
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: he if it's a close game, he wins it. Do

866
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: you think Auburn gets upset by New Mexico State. I

867
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: think it's possible. I took Auburn in it because I

868
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: like how it closed out the year. You know, I

869
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: was having a conversation with Stephen Pearl versus Son, and

870
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: he said that they're just doing a lot better job

871
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: of closing out games, winning close games. And I think

872
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: if you watching them that they were impressive in the

873
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: SEC tournament. But here's the thing. They could go into

874
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: the n C Double A tournament, have one bad shooting

875
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: night and then it's a rap. So I actually think

876
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: this is one of the more fascinating first round games.

877
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of three pointers. It's gonna

878
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: be fast paced and fun to watch, and either outcome

879
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. I picked Alburn, but I wouldn't be

880
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: surprised either way. I just like, I think they're like,

881
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: they're playing well and they're coming into the tournament with

882
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence. Florida State, Vermont. The Becker thing

883
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: is interesting. I've heard he's a terrible interview in terms

884
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: of like for schools. You are you're laughing because you've

885
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: heard the same thing. I've never no, no, I've never

886
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: met him. Always a great guy, Oh man, he's an

887
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: amazing guy. Yes, he's like one of those guys that

888
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, this is the guy's really smart. These

889
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: guys really cool and they're like, wait, you played tennis.

890
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: You're a tennis guy. That's so weird. But I just

891
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: I've heard he's just I don't think aloof is just

892
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: there's just not like, you know, look, if you're going

893
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: to coach at a real school, and I think Vermont

894
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: is amazing what they've done to that program. Like from

895
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: when Tom Brennan got into the n s A tournament

896
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: to now they they're gonna open a new arena in

897
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: a couple of years. They've got a big time a d.

898
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: You know, they've had kind of a good little run here,

899
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of different coaches and they've all been good. Uh,

900
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: but he's been amazing. But he just he stays there

901
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: because you know, I heard he goes in an interviews

902
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, I don't know how he recruits,

903
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, higher level kids because all his kids are

904
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: are great kids. And I was like, doesn't matter. I mean,

905
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. He seems to be doing well where

906
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: he is. Um. Okay, So they're taking on Florida State

907
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: and Florida State is the ultimate airport team. Like they

908
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: walk in You're like, dude, every year, but every year

909
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: they seem to come up short in the n c

910
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: A Tournament. Is this year any different? I actually kind

911
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: of like them. Um, you're right about the All Airport Team,

912
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: and defensively, you know what you're getting from them. They're long,

913
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: they're athletic, but it's kind of a similar scenario the Pastors.

914
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: They don't shoot it great. They're two hundred and eighteen

915
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 1: in the country and shooting from three. Um, but there's

916
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: something about them that I still kind of like. You know,

917
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: they're good. They have ram protectors and they have athletic

918
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: wings like Terence Man, Trent Forest, and Jay Walker. Those

919
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: dudes can defend. Terence Man's really improved as a shooter.

920
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: M J. Walker can score. I mean, I don't think

921
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: they're a Final four teen, but it wouldn't shock me

922
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: if we turned around they were, you know, in the

923
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: sweet sixteen or early eight I don't have them in either,

924
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, they're crazy talented, but

925
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: it's like, how many years have they done this to

926
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: where you're looking at like and they haven't. You know,

927
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: people forget like they should have been Duke at Home.

928
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: I know they got smashed by Carolina um and they

929
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: went through that weird stratechy they lost to be see

930
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: in a Pittsburgh. But like you can just see it,

931
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: right those guys in layup lines look down at BC

932
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: and they're like, no fucking way, or we're losing to

933
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: these guys, and you know, turn around, they end up

934
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: losing to be They shoot it poorly. They at pit

935
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: they were two of twenty two from three. That was

936
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: That's just one of those all time stinkers. But you know,

937
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, they beat Virginia. They beat Virginia Tech.

938
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean the exact opposite of Virginia in terms of

939
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: they just have so much length and like they're just

940
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: gonna challenge every jump shot. They're They're like the most

941
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: interesting team because I could see them. I can't see

942
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: them losing to Vermont, but I can see him losing

943
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: pretty early, but I could see them going a long

944
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: way and if the bracket opens up for them, who knows. Um.

945
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: I love what is Zo has changed offensively, Like he

946
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: he used to run all the old box set bullshit

947
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: and some of the same old sets, and yeah he

948
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: runs a lot of horns now and some handoffs, but

949
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: the angles and the ball screens have changed. Like I

950
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: think he this team is is more fun to coach

951
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: because you know, they call them our kind of guys

952
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: um and they have you know, they don't have the egos,

953
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: they don't have the agendas, and they're not as front

954
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: loaded with with forwards like they were last year. But

955
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: I also think, you know, as much as those guys

956
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: will give credit to the players and having you know,

957
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: more bought in guys and older guys that have no ego,

958
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: I also think that they've done a better job as

959
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: a staff putting their team in a better position. Is

960
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: that fair? Yeah, No, I think that's certainly fair. I actually,

961
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: and this is maybe off topic, I think this is

962
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: as good of a coaching job as as I was done.

963
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: Once you consider like all the injuries they had this year.

964
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: No Josh Lankford, they lose Nick Ward, Aaron's is now

965
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: about and here they are winning the Big Ten, winning

966
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: the Big Ten tournament, and he always seems to have

967
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: his teams like playing really well late. They've won ten

968
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: of eleven, beat Michigan three times in that Span beat

969
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: Wisconsin twice. Like there's there's something about this team that, like,

970
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: I don't think there's talented as some of these past

971
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: Michigan State teams, but they do have one of the

972
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: best point guards in the country. And there they play hard.

973
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: Matt McQuaid stepped up and he's more than just a shooter,

974
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: like he's defending its position. And there's something about this

975
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: team that I really like. I don't like that they're

976
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: in Duke's region, but I like him. I don't like

977
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: to play Thursday more than Duke's region, but I like

978
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: him as well. I mean, i'll tell you what. I'll

979
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: tell you what Cassius Winston Like you look at him,

980
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: like is he even in shape, Like he's kind of thick,

981
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: he's a below the room. He has a bad body,

982
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: like he's he's the guy who's gonna come back to

983
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: school and the twentieth anniversary of the Big Ten Championship,

984
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: and that dude is he if he's not careful, like

985
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be like two fifty, right, and they'll be like,

986
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: that's Cassius Winston, Like, yeah, that's Cassius Winston. Like he

987
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: was a bad boy, but he little guys. He knows

988
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: little guys. He use his shoulder and bump him to

989
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 1: create space, and all they do is run around said

990
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: ball screens for him. So he gets a big guy

991
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: and he doesn't need much time to get it off,

992
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: and he shoots all these scoop shots like he's pretty

993
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: remarkable player, Pretty remarkable player. Um, all right, let's let's

994
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: get to Maryland. They take on Belmont. I think that

995
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: game is gonna be interesting because Bruno Fernando is gonna

996
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: have to guard out in the perimeter. But this is

997
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: a year aware. There were strong rumors for a long

998
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: time that you know, Turs would look at the Nebraska

999
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: job because his his dad lives close. Um that you

1000
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: know they had grown tired of Turs and he'd grown

1001
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: tired of them. He's got a super young team, and

1002
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: I know they didn't finish the way they wanted, But

1003
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: thirteen and seven in the Big Ten and and a

1004
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: good seed in the n c A tournament feels like

1005
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: this has been more than a job saver, like a

1006
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: stabilizing year for him. Am I crazy? No? I don't

1007
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: think so at all. Um. I think I mean two

1008
00:52:54,760 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: games made the tournament that got talent um. Phistically, they're

1009
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. I like them. I picked Belmont in this

1010
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: game more because I think they're kind of my sleeper team. Um,

1011
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: but that doesn't change about them, like I think definitely helps.

1012
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: You mentioned Belmont's a sleeper team. Um, it's interesting I

1013
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: did their game against Huh. Maybe sleeper is not the

1014
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: way to put it, because, like I think everyone's they're

1015
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: kind of that Trindy pick. But there's something about them

1016
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: that I just I like. I've seen them a lot

1017
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: too obviously living in that what is it you like?

1018
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I know one of the things that I

1019
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: like about them, but you haven't seen them more. I mean,

1020
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: I like the fact that they have they have so

1021
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: many guys that can drool, pass and shoot right there,

1022
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: and they've and and they have They've recruited a higher

1023
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: caliber of athlete, higher caliber of It feels like a

1024
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: you know, kid than some of the some of the

1025
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: previous n c A tournament teams. Um. And then you know,

1026
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: Windler is win there has is. You know, he's pretty

1027
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: special as a college player. Yeah, I agree, and I

1028
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: think but I think they're more than just him because

1029
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: you can even like the first four game, he kind

1030
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: of got lost offensively, maybe not lost as the word,

1031
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: but he wasn't aggressive. But he always rebounds, like he

1032
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: had fourteen rebounds in that game. The kid that's gotten

1033
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: a lot a lot better is Kevin McClain, Like from

1034
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: when he was a freshman to now. And I mean

1035
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: he had points against Temple. They don't win that game

1036
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: without him. He's shooting it more consistently. He can get

1037
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: to the rim, and the point guard I think does

1038
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: a really good job of setting guys up making plays.

1039
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: He can pass. And same with the big um. I

1040
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: never say his name right, so his nicknames Moose, so

1041
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: he was called Big Moose. But he's pretty skilled in

1042
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: the mckmasinski, I think, yeah, they're very efficient. If I'm

1043
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: looking at the Tim Palm stuff right now, the number

1044
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: two and two points bield goal percentage in the country

1045
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 1: and three centers. Yeah, the Ken palm is interesting because

1046
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: I want to get there, want to get to Utah

1047
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: State with the Ken Palm stuff. Um, let's get to Kansas.

1048
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: I also have Bellmont winning that game, um Northeastern playing Kansas.

1049
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: I saw Kansas early. I saw them when they had Doak,

1050
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: I saw them mid season when they lost a k

1051
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: State and then I saw them late season when they

1052
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: lost to Oklahoma and that was when the streak was

1053
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: officially over. Um. First, how legitimate do you do you

1054
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: think self would leave? No? I know those rumors are

1055
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: running rampant, but like I don't. What do you leave

1056
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: one day for an NBA job? I could see it,

1057
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: but like I don't. I'm not buying the stuff that

1058
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: he's leading though. There's here's the thing that there are

1059
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: so many random rumors going around right now because of

1060
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: the stuff. It's just it's hard to sit through what

1061
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: too and what not to believe. You know. I think

1062
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: with like the Calipari stuff that we were talking about today,

1063
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: it is easy to believe and to know that usually

1064
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: had interest in Calipari. It's the other side that you'd

1065
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 1: never know it to believe or not? Is it reciprocated?

1066
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: And you know with with stealth, like he's pretty happy

1067
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: to cancer, I don't see it. I don't either, um.

1068
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: And you know, like, look, they're going to defend him.

1069
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: Long is going to defend him. And you know the

1070
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: only thing is his kids are out of the house. Uh,

1071
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, how many more big big toll championships?

1072
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: Can you win? You do almost you want to start

1073
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: the streak over. And if it was the bulls like

1074
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: I've I've heard Lakers guys say like they might go

1075
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: get they might go get a college coach, it's got

1076
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: to be somebody who commands room. And I actually think

1077
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: Bill would be a really good NBA coach. I do

1078
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: just because And I don't know how much time you

1079
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: spent around him. I spend a bunch around him. He

1080
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: just has a way where he um, he takes over

1081
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 1: a room but doesn't do so where any bus balls,

1082
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: but he doesn't do somewhere. You're like, Nick is a dick,

1083
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: Like no, that's not how he does it, like he uh.

1084
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: And now look there are guys that he just turns

1085
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: on that are his his whipping boys, like any like

1086
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: any coach has. But um, he's pretty. He's got a

1087
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: pretty good way about him. And then I think, you know,

1088
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: all these guys that hire have to sire an offensive

1089
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: and defensive coordinator because the styles are so different. But

1090
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't, I honestly don't know. Um, I don't think

1091
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: he's a life for Kansas. I don't. I think the

1092
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: NBA intrigues him, and I think you and I talked

1093
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: about this on Cowherd. Like, I think a lot of

1094
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: these guys are just kind of done with the whole

1095
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: college Like at some point the college thing and chasing

1096
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: guys to class and recruiting kids. Maybe it changes when

1097
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: they can go straight to the pros. But like, think

1098
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: about it, You're gonna be recruiting a kid, and if

1099
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: he blows up, you know, and he can he already

1100
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: commits to you, Well he's gonna go to the NBA Draft,

1101
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: You're like, well, now I gotta go recruit another kid. Like,

1102
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't think people have realized what a you know,

1103
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: what a mess that one's gonna be. Um, So that

1104
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: one will be super, super interesting to see what happens. Um.

1105
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to North Northeastern. Bill Cohen's a

1106
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: tremendous coach. They went on a crazy run at the

1107
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: end of the year. They've only lost I think two

1108
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: games since January. Right, they lost to Charleston in overtime

1109
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: and they lost a thousand on the road by three.

1110
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this has been They were the best team

1111
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: in their league. They did get blown out early in

1112
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: the year by Syracuse. They got smashed by Virginia Tech.

1113
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: They they you know, so they weren't and they even

1114
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: lost to the Vermont early in the year. So have

1115
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: you seen Northestern at all? I've seen some Like I

1116
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: watched clips of the championship game here. That's averaging eight

1117
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: points a game. How do you say, BOSSA, mhm, sure,

1118
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: that's what we're going that's what we're going with. Yeah,

1119
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: so it almost becomes like a referendum on Kansas, right, Like, dude,

1120
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: I don't care how many guys you've lost to injury

1121
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: and suspect chin and whenever. You know, no doke, no

1122
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: to Silvio. You know you've had some disappointment, like you

1123
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: can't lose to Northeastern. Sorry, yeah, no, I don't just

1124
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: use it. I mean Kansas can. Scan still has way

1125
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: more talent. They've still got um did Glosson who's extremely productive.

1126
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: They've got good guards. M hum. You know, I agree,

1127
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: you can't like that's the game they need to win.

1128
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: Marquette Marquette Maurray State. I'm guessing, being a guy who's

1129
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: lived in the area, you like Murray State. I don't know. Well,

1130
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: let me your friends that I do like Murray State.

1131
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: I do like John Morant. I picked Marquette and Marcus Howard. Um.

1132
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: Look I I it's simply like, I just think Mark

1133
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: Marquette is a better team. Um. John Morant's awesome. Um,

1134
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: Marquette's got a better supporting cast around Marcus Howard than

1135
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: I would say Murray State goes around John Morant. And

1136
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: that's not really a knock on Mergy Date. Like they've

1137
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: done a great job. Matt mcmcmahon, I think is like

1138
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: a bright up and coming coach. I think he'll he'll

1139
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: be a coach at a high major school in the

1140
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: next two or two years. I just think, uh, And

1141
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: I know Marquette is kind of sputtered down the stretch,

1142
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: but I think Marcus Howard and the Houser brothers um,

1143
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: and then they've got THEO John inside from the defensive standpoint,

1144
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: Cigar Adams kind of their X factor. I think for

1145
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: some reason, I just think that they're going to go

1146
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: on a little run here. And I'm not saying they're

1147
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: going to Final four, but I don't see them loosening

1148
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: to Merge Date. I don't. I only get to make

1149
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: two big a deal of state championships, Okay, and it's

1150
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: it's Wisconsin. But there's a reason that the Houser Boys

1151
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: won championships. Like I thoroughly enjoy watching them play. I

1152
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: saw them beat Xavier on the road, and Lexavier wasn't

1153
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: great this year, they just weren't. But Xavier played probably

1154
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: their best game of the year to date at at

1155
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: that point against Mark Quette, and Marquette took every punch

1156
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: and still beat him. Um. I just those guys make shots,

1157
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: make big plays, and and they did that. That was

1158
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: theo John was in foul trouble. I think they're pretty

1159
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: damn good. I'm I agree with you on Marquette. I

1160
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: think that's one that everybody assumes. Twelve five, Murray stay,

1161
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: John Morand and I see Marquette being a lot better

1162
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: defensively than people realize. And and they're a lot bigger

1163
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: than they've been. They used to be so diminutive when

1164
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: they had those two little tiny guards last year with Rowley. Uh,

1165
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: they just they couldn't stop anybody, you know, and now

1166
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: you put now they can only you know, Adam can

1167
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: really defend, really defend, and John can really defend the

1168
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: rim and then you know, the House of Boys are big.

1169
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: They're not great, but they're big and they're more athletic

1170
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: than you think Florida Nevada. And it's interesting. I did

1171
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: the show on Stadium with With Goodman and we had

1172
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: we had Mussan and I asked him about how connected

1173
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: they were as a team, and he's like, oh, I

1174
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: don't even get that. Like we lost four games, like

1175
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: we just lost in the Mount West Tournament. We didn't

1176
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: have Jordan Carroll line and I you know, like, now

1177
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: Canadians are mad at me because I said, you know,

1178
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: Florida's got an eighteen year old Canadian point guard, Like, oh, hey,

1179
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: why are you talking bad about Canada? I was like,

1180
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: nothing had I just happened to point out that he

1181
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: is Canadian. I think he's terrific, but it just happens

1182
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: to be Canadian. And he's eighteen years old. Um, And

1183
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, like, you know, I know they got some

1184
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: older dudes with keep On Allen and and Jalen Hudson

1185
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: who seemed to have been there for years, but I

1186
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: just don't like. I don't like them against a bunch

1187
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: of twenty three year old dudes that are that are

1188
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: pretty tough and feel like all right now now these

1189
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: games matter now thet's start playing harder. I also like,

1190
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: never got a great deal for Florida. They were they

1191
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: I think they've just been so up and down. Like

1192
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: I know they had. They had a five game winning

1193
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: streak and then they finished UM two of to of

1194
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: the last six. And I almost feel like Nevada is

1195
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: kind of coming into the tournament maybe a little undervalued. UM.

1196
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: And maybe that's because you know, some of their losses

1197
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: like the State, the Alta State, the Sandy State again

1198
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: in the Mountainous Conference tournament. UM. I think you could

1199
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: make a really good point about their experience. I mean,

1200
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: they've got to be one of the oldest teams in

1201
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: the country, if not the oldest, and they've been there before.

1202
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: You know, I was. I was at their first to

1203
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: UM Inviduable Tournament games last year. And I mean, Martin

1204
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: Twins just make big shots. You can count on Caroline

1205
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: being productive. UM. And uh back to your you know,

1206
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: Andrew Nimhart. I think Andrew Nimhart is going to be

1207
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: really good. I do too. I think it's been really good.

1208
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit of a step slow

1209
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: is my only thing. And then he's eighteen. He's literally

1210
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. Yeah, he's young. Yeah, Um, I should

1211
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: think that could be a really good game. And I

1212
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: also but I also think that like Nevada maybe is

1213
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: like and I think maybe in the beginning of the

1214
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: season they were almost like the UM kind of like

1215
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: UM popular pick to be top five to ten team,

1216
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 1: and it's almost like we've all kind of taken maybe

1217
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: not everybody, but were taken like a step back on them.

1218
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: And maybe they're coming in a little underrated. Yeah, I

1219
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: mean the seven seeds seems really low. It just does.

1220
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: It just does. I don't know. Um, I like Nevada

1221
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: in the game. Uh, well, we'll see if I'm wrong. UM,

1222
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: I would agree with you on Florida. I thought Mike

1223
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: had trouble figured figuring this team out. I also think that,

1224
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, as much as Keevan Allen's had a at

1225
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: a really successful career there, like there's some limitations there.

1226
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 1: He's he's tiny, and uh that allows that allows Jazz

1227
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: Johnson to play and have somebody he can guard. UM.

1228
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: And I I think I'm actually more of a buyer

1229
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: Nevada than other people are. UM. I'll be interesting to see,

1230
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, if they advance and they take on Michigan,

1231
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: how they would do, how they would do with Michigan's

1232
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: kind of loading to the ball. You know, they're just

1233
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: now they're an ISO team. They're not a team that

1234
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: that spreads it, and you've got to spread it, especially

1235
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: to the weak side. I mean, maybe Jazz Johnson goes crazy,

1236
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: but I don't, I don't know. I'm I'm I'm fastinated

1237
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: by by Nevada and what happens with this team Nova St. Mary's.

1238
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: So I'm a believer in Nova, And you know, I

1239
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: saw him in the biggest tournament UM Live against Providence

1240
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: and I watched the championship game. I think Jay's kind

1241
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: of got this team going going right. Like he told

1242
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: me before the tournament, I've got Eric Possible, I've got

1243
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: Phil Booth, but I need, like I need a third

1244
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 1: and fourth guy to like start consistently being there. And

1245
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: if you look at the Biggast tournament, one of these

1246
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: three Gillespie, Jermaine, Samuel's and Sabique, one of those three

1247
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: stepped up or two stepped up each and every game.

1248
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: And I think those three are starting to be a

1249
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: little more reliable. And I think he's got damn heading

1250
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Like I put them in my

1251
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: sweet six team. Um, I kind of like him. I

1252
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: do too. I just you know, there's just I mean,

1253
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: Booth just makes shots. I mean, that kid, he's unbelievable.

1254
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: Like he's not very athletic, but the level of confidence

1255
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: he plays with and the poise that he's plays with

1256
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: is crazy. Pascal is such a hard batchup right because

1257
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: he's so freaky long and athletic, but he has no

1258
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: next so he's he doesn't look at he doesn't look

1259
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: as big as he plays. Um, and this is not

1260
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: a great This is not a great same Mary's team.

1261
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: This is the same Mary's team that's scuttled for a

1262
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,439
Speaker 1: good amount of time. On the other hand, Um, look,

1263
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: Jordan Ford can really shoot the basketball, can really play.

1264
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: And I don't think that that Nova just overwhelms you

1265
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: athletically on the ball, defensively, that the way they have

1266
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: in the past. And I think it'll be a close game.

1267
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: I do, Um, I'm with you on Nova. And there's

1268
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an unbelievable coaching job that did.

1269
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: Jay has done just you know, probably better than we

1270
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: did last year. Had so many players, I mean, they

1271
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: were completely bought in in terms of their system and style.

1272
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: But um, but considering the beatings they were taking, the

1273
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: pressure that was on the team and to get together

1274
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: however down the Big East was it doesn't matter, but

1275
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: Nova's everybody's biggest game. He's done an amazing job. And

1276
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: then I think Randy's done. Randy's one of these guys

1277
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: like I don't you know, I still don't know other

1278
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: than the fact that he's he's a tough interview. I

1279
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: still know how he's stated at at St. Mary's all

1280
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: this time. Um, all right, we'll I'm not I'm not

1281
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: going to bring up Kentucky in terms of abiding Christian

1282
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: What do you think Kentucky has a team right now?

1283
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: I actually really like him. And I said this. I

1284
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: can't remember if I said it's on herd or speak,

1285
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: but I think Kentucky winner. I think I said it's you.

1286
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: The winner of Kentucky North Carolina goes to the championship game.

1287
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: And I think Kentucky is a completely different team from November.

1288
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: Clearly different team when they lost Steten Hall in December.

1289
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 1: I think that their point guard play is really developed.

1290
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: I think part of that because Quade Green left and

1291
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: they were able to kind of get some just identity

1292
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: at that position with Ashton Hagan's he just set up

1293
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: things defensively, he can pass. And then Tyler Hero has

1294
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: really taken a positive step forward. And t J. Washington

1295
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: the last half of the season played like a first

1296
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: team All American all that combined, and I haven't even

1297
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: talked about Kellyn Johnson. So I think, like I think,

1298
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: I actually think this is one of Calipari's really good

1299
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: coaching jobs too. Like I think he has them going

1300
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: in the right direction at just the right time. And

1301
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, if you watch I don't know if you

1302
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: saw the SEC tournament Semis when they when when they

1303
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: lost to uh to Tennessee, they coughed that game up,

1304
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: they had that game won and read Travis stout out

1305
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: and there's a couple of loose balls that read Travis

1306
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: probably gets if he's in the game, and I think

1307
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: he's he may be one of the most important players

1308
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: just because he's They're kind of like their physical bulldozer

1309
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: inside that will rebound. I really I would not be

1310
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: surprised I picked the duke in my brefit. I will

1311
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: not be surprised if they if they were cutting down

1312
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: to Dess and I know you yeah, I did, and

1313
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: and I it's interesting that the addition by subtraction in

1314
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: the guard spot when you don't have a guy you

1315
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: have to put in that they had earlier this year,

1316
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,560
Speaker 1: and how much better they are because of it, you know,

1317
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: like I just oh yeah, I mean listen quality Green.

1318
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: I pointed out on Twitter. This is back when they

1319
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: lost the Duke. He he'd come in the game and

1320
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: he was like trying to prove himself first that he

1321
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: could make shots, second that he could run a team,

1322
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 1: and he wasn't great at either, and then there was

1323
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: terrible defensive balance. And then you know, it's just also

1324
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: when when guys are unhappy with their role and guys

1325
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: are not really bought into it, like it just it's

1326
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: like the It's like it's like the flu it passes

1327
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: through the team. And and then at that point in time,

1328
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: even though you know, even though you had read Travis

1329
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 1: who had played a bunch of college basketball, one, he

1330
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: hadn't played it with Kentucky, Like, I don't think you

1331
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: really understood like it's different in Kentucky than it's the Stanford.

1332
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: But also they I don't think they really understood how

1333
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: to use him and maybe even cal like he hadn't

1334
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: had a guy like that, and maybe since he's been there, right,

1335
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: like his all his bigs are either stiffs that can

1336
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: only block shots, you know, or he had you know,

1337
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis that could you know, he was a shot blocker,

1338
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: but he could do move like. They didn't have a guy,

1339
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 1: a rugged guy like that, who was developed, who had

1340
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: played and was older. So I think they all had

1341
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: to learn like they and he made zero adjustments in

1342
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: that game. None. It was like, I want them to

1343
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: get their ass kicked, get their nose rubbed in it. Um,

1344
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to Oh, here's one. You've seen

1345
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: seen hollow Ton. I've seen Watford a good bit. I've

1346
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: seen Seton hollow Ton. Both teams have a guy that

1347
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 1: can give you a forty. Who do you like and why? Yeah,

1348
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun. This one's gonna be a lot

1349
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: of fun. I think that like the Walker train is

1350
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: like rolling strong, but there's something about Seton Hall. They

1351
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: just find a way. Yeah. And I actually thought that

1352
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: you could have made a really strong case. And I'm

1353
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: fine with you getting it, but I thought you could

1354
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: have made a really strong case for Kevin Willard being

1355
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 1: coach of the Year in in the Big East. Um,

1356
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean they've got one guy that can just go

1357
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: out and just give you buckets. An the problem is

1358
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: if Myles Pale has a bad night, they're gonna lose.

1359
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: But Sandro's played pretty well. Um. I went with Seton Hall,

1360
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: but I know, like Waalford's the rage and I get

1361
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: it because you know, Fletcher can really shoot there. They're

1362
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: they're very good. They shoot it great in general. Um,

1363
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: but there's something about Seton Hall where they've just kind

1364
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: of been. They've been a pat up and down throughout

1365
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: the year. But like I mean, they had some really

1366
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: impressive games and they've been very well. Kurve beaten Billanova

1367
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: in that Biggist tournament, no question. I sure you're gonna

1368
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 1: win the game. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I think it'll

1369
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 1: be fascinating. Um yeah, Myles Pale, I have this, I've

1370
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: had this written down. In wins, he shoots from three

1371
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: in losses from three, So I mean, I mean he

1372
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: could come out and have a bad night and they're done. Yep.

1373
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot on his shoulders

1374
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: in terms of them winning or not winning. Yeah, and

1375
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: and Watford is good defensively against the three um and

1376
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 1: and And one of the things about Wafford is like, yeah,

1377
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: they played some high majors. They didn't beat any of them,

1378
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: but they played somebody like It's one of the weird

1379
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: things that we give credit. And I did this on

1380
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: my pod last week where we talked about strength of

1381
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: schedule all the time, and n C Day didn't make

1382
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: it among other things, you know, for their strength of schedule.

1383
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: But the fact is they actually played a pretty strong schedule.

1384
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: It's just those bottom seven games are so bad. But

1385
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: like I don't do I think, do I want you

1386
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: to play good teams? Like yeah, but I also want

1387
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: it would like you to beat one of them, you know,

1388
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: or you don't get credit for just playing them tough. Yeah,

1389
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 1: well even playing them tough is is like one thing, right,

1390
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: But like you know, I mean, they played Cancers and

1391
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: they were smashed seventy two what he seven? Like, they

1392
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: were smashed played Oklahoma, who's not great this year. The

1393
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: game wasn't terribly competitive. They played Carolina, and they had

1394
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: beaten Carolina the year before, but they played Carolina in

1395
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: their own joint to start the year and it was

1396
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: a close game for you know, thirty minutes and I look,

1397
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: I think they have a good team. But I do

1398
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I do think the hype train has

1399
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: gotten a little bit out of control and we've we've

1400
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: lost sight for the fact that they're they're good. I

1401
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: don't This one's a hard one I would not go to.

1402
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: All right, here's one. I've seen this team a bunch

1403
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: because I did two of their games, and I did

1404
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: one of their games last year, and then I've seen

1405
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: Perdue a bunch and produce an interesting team. I think

1406
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: Old Dominion beats him. Now Old Meeting at times can't score.

1407
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: They just can't. But um, the way to beat Perdue

1408
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: is to attack Grady Eifford at the defensive end. You know,

1409
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: he's like a stretch for great team guy. But if

1410
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: you look at what Minnesota beat them, what they do

1411
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: one they limited, you know the looks of Carson Edwards

1412
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: and carsonvard is going to shoot no matter what. And

1413
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: then two defensively, as good as Perdue is, um, as

1414
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: good as Perdue is like the weaknesses the power forward

1415
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: spot and BJ Stifs their best player and that's who

1416
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: they're going to go at him with. Yeah, I'll be

1417
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: honest with you. I barely seen have you seen have

1418
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: you seen Perdue? Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. Okay, So here's

1419
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: my question on on Carson Edwards. What do you like?

1420
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: I think Carson Cowan Berkley with his body like his

1421
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 1: his his thighs are ridiculous, ridiculous. But a lot of

1422
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: people don't love don't love him in terms of he's

1423
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: just not he doesn't feel like even a Perdue guy.

1424
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: He hasn't been as efficient this year as last year.

1425
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: He's not shooting it near the percentage that he did

1426
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: last year. Um, just totally random fact he played a

1427
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: year at the end Fox was pretty yeah. But um,

1428
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, I get it, Like there's um in a

1429
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: weird way at know if you get this comparison. But

1430
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: there's some Marcus Howard to him in terms of like

1431
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: he can get a little shot happy m m thirst

1432
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: thirsty is the expression I like to use. Ps. But

1433
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: there's like there's still like this thing with him where

1434
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: like if he comes out gets taught, it's a wrap

1435
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: because he gets rolling. I mean he can really make

1436
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: shots and then Ryan Klein next to him can shoot it. Um.

1437
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 1: I actually thought, and I know I've said this about

1438
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: a couple of guys, but like I thought, Matt Painter

1439
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: did a really good job with this team. If you

1440
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: look at this team talked about him, it's not like

1441
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: cop dudes. No, No, the dude I like the best

1442
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: who if he can't shoot at all? Is um? What's

1443
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 1: the um? What's the wing? Who's he's like a one

1444
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: through four but he can't shoot at all? No, Joe Eastern,

1445
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: he has his his free throw is Charles Barkley's golf

1446
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: swing right, no question, he's a weird He's a weird

1447
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: eve for someone who hasn't seen him explain, I mean,

1448
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: I think people seem like he's he can guarding a position.

1449
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: He's big, he's strong, he seems smart, but he can't

1450
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: shoot it up. Yeah, but he can't shoot. He's a

1451
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: little bit positionless, like vertically like as an athlete, he's okay. Um,

1452
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 1: he's just like it's it's like in he's kind of

1453
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: like a point forward in a way, you know, like

1454
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 1: he's he can pass. Um, he's just versatile. Um, he's different.

1455
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: He's he's he's a very unique player. He always has

1456
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: the um did dearon Fox and Carson Newards. They win

1457
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of tournament, Like I love dearon Fox, they

1458
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: must have won everything, right, Um, I don't know if they.

1459
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 1: Nessary were in the y b L and they played

1460
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: for Houston Hoops. They had some other dudes on that

1461
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: team too, But Carson Edwards wasn't like he was kind

1462
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: of he took off and was kind of what I

1463
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 1: think he we had him in like the nineties. He

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01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: was like a back end top one her player. Frank

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01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: Howard just got what were you gonna say? Now? Keep going? Sorry,

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01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: you keep going. I was just gonna say like he

1467
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 1: was he you know, playing next to the air in Fox,

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01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: Like he didn't play with the ball in his hands

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01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 1: because the aar and hadded his So it's hard to

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01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: like he looked like just an undersized to guard. And

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01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean there's still some of that in him, but

1472
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: he's way more effective with the ball in his hands.

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01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: And you could see when you saw him at AU. Um.

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01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: How do you think losing Frank Howard affects Serricus? Well,

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01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: I mean I think anytime, especially this late, you take

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01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: somebody off the team that matters, um. And I mean

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01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: I had the ball in the ball in his hands

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01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 1: quite a bit. So I definitely think it matters um

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01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: to to especially this late like we're a day from

1480
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: the into of the tournament. Matter, it's a big deal.

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01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: I think, does Baylor beat him? Um? I picked Syracuse

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01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: in my bracket. I did too. I think it would

1483
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: be a good game, though. I'm with you. Um, all right,

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01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: that's all. That's all of the Thursday games that you'll

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01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: be watching in Vegas, all of them picked every game.

1486
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. I'm here with four buddies and all

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01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 1: all they want to do is watch games and go

1488
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: eat go eat steak at night. And that's like, that's

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01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: like the perfect world for me. I can't believe I

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01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: didn't go like I have a kind of a hall pass,

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01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: Like no, it's it's um. I did it a couple

1492
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: of times when I was younger. It's just a like like,

1493
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 1: So I was a late add to this trip, and

1494
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: my buddies got five seats at the casino to buy him.

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01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: They got them for free. Some of the places you

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01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 1: have to buy them, like I I've actually when I

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01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: did this a couple of years ago, my buddy got

1498
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,799
Speaker 1: like a table at Legassi Stadium. This is in the Pilazo,

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01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: I think, And it's a really cool sports book. I

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01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever been there, but those you

1501
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: had to like there was a table of eight and

1502
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: it was the day was like a thousand minimum. You

1503
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: have to spend on food and drinks and stuff like that.

1504
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: We have tomorrow. We've just got seats and they were free.

1505
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: But you have a book. They booked him like eight

1506
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: months ago. M hm uh do you have time to

1507
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 1: run through this Friday games? You gotta go. I need

1508
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: to go there. They're they're waiting on me. All right,

1509
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: all right, Evan Dane, Evan Daniels check him out on Twitter.

1510
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do this on his podcast tomorrow. Will we'll

1511
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: have a drunken at Evan Daniels after a day. There's

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01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: all your Thursday games. Your final four is what my

1513
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: final four is? Kentucky, Duke, Virginia and Texas Tech. Your biggest,

1514
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: your biggest, your biggest upset early is what um I

1515
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: had Belmont this sweet sixteen over Maryland and l s U.

1516
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: You like Oregon too, didn't you? I liked Oregon. I

1517
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: think you said you like that one as well. I

1518
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: mean Oregon like especially. I think that bracket opens up

1519
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 1: a little with being weighed out. You know, maybe you

1520
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 1: see your Vine wins that game. Maybe they don't, but

1521
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: even then, like Oregon could slide their way to the

1522
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:25,719
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen. I picked the Arizona State. Um to be Buffalo.

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01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how big of an upstode you'd think

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01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: that is. Um. That was probably my biggest was Belmont

1525
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: Belmont Oregan mhm um. All right, dude, listen, I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you how much I appreciate you joining me. UM.

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01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,560
Speaker 1: Let's do this. Let's plan on next year. If you

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01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: go again, I'll go because this is the cool thing

1529
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 1: was this year I got to be home on my

1530
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: son's birthday for the first time ever. I literally had

1531
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: never been home my son. I've never been home. I

1532
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: was Tuesday, so I got to be home yet last night.

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01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: And UM, I usually miss it because I was where

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01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: I was working on ESPN or I was working at CBS,

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01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 1: and now I'm not. And it's actually it's it's hard

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01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: sometimes to watch it, but it's really cool to be home.

1537
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: But I I gotta do the Vegas thing. Van Peltz

1538
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: told me, I have to pay the Vegas thing. Rissillas

1539
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: told me, I how to do the vesting. Okay, all right, well,

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01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: don't get arrested, enjoy yourself, and I appreciate you joining me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Doug. All right, it's Evan Daniels. Join us.