1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I'm looking on our bracket challenge, the Celebrity 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Bracket Challenge. John Daley is leading comfortably. Seaton O'Connor and 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: Jim Parsons their second. Kevin Frasier from Entertainment Tonight, he's 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: third on the list. Todd Fritz, mister Conservative Captain Obvious, 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: is fourth, tied with DC the Brain Supreme mclovin is 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: fifth on the list. Here, so the Dan Patrick Show 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: is well represented. You have to go down to ninth 9 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: to find Dan Patrick. Baldi Paps making a late push. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: He's tied for eleventh there. But it's interesting, interesting there, 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Seaton O'Connor. If Michigan had gone and one last night 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: he would have had would you've had all four in 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: the final four? Yeah? Well four? Look at you, Look 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: at you, mister college man who needs Jay billis Yeah? 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: I mean you got me right? Yeah? Yeah yeah yeah, 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: break it down, yeah pull. Elon Musk tied for twenty seven. 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Elon Musk is not in the Celebrity Bracket Challenge. Why 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: isn't he? Todd? Are we asked? I left him off 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: the list. Okay, this program brought you by simply Safe 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: Home Security. 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Say good morning 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: to those watching on Peacock and those listening on our 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: radio affiliates around the country numbering nearly two hundred cities. 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: Gonzaga is going to have to buck the trend to 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: become the first undefeated NCIA champ since Indiana nineteen seventy six. 31 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: But so far the Bulldogs have lived up to the 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: hype and then some. Last night they put on a 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: clinic against usc advancing to the final four, And there's 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: so many things that they do right. First of all, 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: they're unselfish. They move without the ball, they moved the ball, 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: They play defense like these are just normal things that 37 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: you would expect out of a great team. But you 38 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: don't always get those, you know, when you start to 39 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: check the boxes. Not everybody does this. You see what 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: Gonzaga does, and if you're old enough to remember Pete 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: Carrill at Princeton. He had this motion offense. They were 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: usually undersized, outmanned when they would face better teams. But 43 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: Pete Carrill was really a brilliant tactician and its movement 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: constantly moving backdoor cuts. But you do that and you 45 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: have all of this talent. Princeton had to do that 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: out of necessity and they nearly upset Georgetown in the 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: NCAA Tournaments tournament. Gonzaga has a ton of talent, may 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: have the number one pick in the draft. You know, 49 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: they're they're not a mid major. They get talent, they 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: get big names, and they should be viewed that way. 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: But you know, I think that we used to look 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: at them as that school, the small goal well coached. 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: But this is supposed to be their coronation here. This 54 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: has been a long time in the making with what 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: Mark fu has done. You know, Butler nearly did this twice. 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: Brad Stevens then moved on. Mark Few didn't leave and 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: there are a couple of times every remember interviewing him 58 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: on the show in the last twenty years where hey, 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: you're up for that job. I thought he was going 60 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: to take the Ucla job many many years ago, but 61 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: he stayed and he's reaping the benefits of that. The 62 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: last time to enter the tournament out without a loss, 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: that was Kentucky back in twenty fifteen. That team had 64 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: Carl Anthony Townsend, Devin Booker. They didn't win the title, 65 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: lost to Frank Kaminski and the Badgers in the final four. 66 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: The year before it was Fred van Vleet in Wichita State. 67 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: They came in undefeated, they fell to Kentucky. Before that, 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: you have to go back to the nineteen ninety one 69 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: UNLV team who famously lost to Duke. But Gunzaga doesn't 70 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: seem burdened by history. That's a confident team. They look 71 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: poised to chase perfection next week in Indianapolis. And if 72 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: you're wondering about the matchups on Saturday, it'll be Houston 73 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: and Baylor, the battle for Texas. That's at five eastern 74 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: UCLA and the Zags at eight thirty on Saturday. Houston 75 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: has only beaten double digit seeds in the tournament. They 76 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: haven't faced a team that is a single seeded team 77 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: yet they will now with number one Baylor that we'll 78 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: look at those matchups coming up mcleve and you got 79 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: a pull question for me. Yeah, this is a super 80 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: mean But how do you feel about this final four? Nah? 81 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: I guess Gonzaga is interesting or nah, honestly, is anybody 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: excited about this group? I'm sorry, I just have to 83 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: say it. Houston, Baylor, Gonzaga and the ghost of UCLA. 84 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: It compared to what we had last year, which was 85 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: nothing like that, we should be grateful, thankful. It's like, 86 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, when we had the NBA in the bubble 87 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: and people say, oh, there's no fans, it's not the 88 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: same and I said, well, it's either you can have 89 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: some basketball or not have basketball. But yeah, Lebron in 90 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: the bubble, that was awesome. This is Baylor Houston. When 91 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: you're hungry, do you go, mmm, I don't know if 92 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: I want to eat there? If there's only one restaurant 93 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: you go, I don't know. I think I'd rather be hungry. 94 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: This is this is history here. Oh you may go, oh, 95 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: I don't care about these teams are they're not exciting teams? 96 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: I do. But if Gonzaga has a chance to go undefeated, 97 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: or you get a surprise, or if Baylor knocks them off, 98 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: if Ucla continues, this crazy madness goes to the finals. 99 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the beauty of this, the storylines. How 100 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: it's so improbable that UCLA UCLA has the play in game. 101 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: So you go from the first four to the final four. 102 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: That's never happened. Michigan had a great storyline with Jowan Howard. 103 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: But you know, that's that's what we love about this. 104 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: There's storylines that you would never think could emerge here, 105 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: and they do, and then you fall in love with 106 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: that storyline and maybe it's it's you know, you flirt 107 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: with it, it's it's a oh, I love that storyline 108 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: and at last two weeks and then you move on 109 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: or it dies. But you know, with Gunzaga, this has 110 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: been start to finish. Now nobody's surprised how great Gunzaga. 111 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: They shouldn't be surprised how great Gunzaga is Baylor. I 112 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: think if Baylor does go to the title game, Baylor 113 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: might surprise some people just how good they are. But 114 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: Gonzaga has been on display, been talked about and right rightfully, 115 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: so they are worthy of whatever praise they get. Now 116 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: you're going to have people who are going to say, well, 117 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: how would they have faired against this team, that team 118 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: that won a national title, the Indiana team. You know, Okay, 119 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: I understand all of those things. We make these arguments, 120 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: but that's what's fun about this. You can make your case. 121 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: How would they fare against a junior or senior laden 122 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: India and a team in the mid seventies. I have 123 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: no idea. We can discuss, Oh, would they have beaten 124 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: Kareem abdul Jabbar in UCLA? We can discuss. I just 125 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: enjoy what I see. This is really good basketball. It yes, 126 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: this is objectively not good basketball. Gonzaga is really good basketball, 127 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: right they are? Yes. The other teams are defense teams. 128 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean USLA. Michigan was objectively, by any measurement, not 129 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: well played. No, No, it was not. No. And Michigan 130 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: crumbled there in the last two minutes, the last thirty seconds. 131 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: Why they're jacking up threes When you need a two 132 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: get to the hoop, You need one, get to the hoop. 133 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: They didn't. Yeah, point, that was the tough part at 134 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: the end of the Michigan game. They needed one and 135 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: they didn't take it to the hole. And the other 136 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: I think they're in the bonus. You know, that's gotta 137 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: be frustrating. What did you guys like the style of 138 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: men's basketball in college or pro better? I like college 139 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: seems more old school. They shoot a lot of threes, 140 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: but it's not exclusively threes. I think the style is 141 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: way better in college. Well, you have different styles, it 142 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: feels like in college. By the way, Fritzie Justa corrected me. 143 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: UCLA the second team ever to go from first four 144 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: to the final four VCU was shock is smart back 145 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven. Thank you Todd for keeping me straight there. 146 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: What else do we have in the club? Okay, Pro 147 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: Day question again, I'm gonna go snarky. The most overrated 148 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: NFL thing the preseason, the Combine, Pro Days or the 149 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Well, I don't think the Pro Bowl is rated, right, 150 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: They're not over Nobody likes it. Right. You've probably surprised 151 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: people if you said they're still doing it, So I 152 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: can't say it's overrated. It's not rated. Wait, that's a 153 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: good question. Are they still doing it? I know they're 154 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: seventeen games, but I didn't hear about the fade at 155 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Remember, for the last ten years, we 156 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: were supposed to invest in player safety, like it was 157 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: up to us that we were supposed to care as 158 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: fans and members of the media, Player's Safety CTE. All 159 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: of those things that we did care about, we do 160 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: care about, We were interested. And then all of a sudden, 161 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: h the great elixir money. Yeah, so I don't want 162 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: to hear about player's safety anymore. If you don't care, 163 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: they don't care, then why are we supposed to care. 164 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: Everybody agreed on seventeen. Everybody got more money, right, So 165 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: don't tell me about player's safety. Hopefully you improve the 166 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: helmets what you're allowed to do with your helmet. But 167 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: but but don't say it's your priority. Player's safety is 168 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: not your priority. It's about making money. It's always about 169 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: making money. Yes, to one less preseason game, so they 170 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: care a little bit about Oh that's true. Now it's 171 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: all equal. Yes, yes, the starter is barely playing the 172 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: preseason now. Anyway, I felt like that was a false 173 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: na by the NFL. It is true, but they you know, 174 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to eighteen regular season games at some point, 175 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: but nobody complained about seventeen. I think Alvin Kamara did. 176 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: That's about it. He's got to play sixteen games first. 177 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: But okay, we got seventeen games, and everybody's like, yeah, great, 178 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: Like all we want is football. We don't invest in 179 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: you as a person. You're just you know, it's it's 180 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: all transferable. Like that guy's out, now, this guy comes in, 181 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: that guy's this guy comes in, the next guy up. 182 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: That's how it works. Nobody's sitting here going gosh, I 183 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: hope Jim McMahon's doing well today. Nobody's doing that. These 184 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: other players, why they didn't go, hey, you know what, 185 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: we have sixteen, Why don't we go to fifteen? Why 186 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: don't we go to fourteen? That would make it safer? Right, 187 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, this is apples and oranges. But NASCAR didn't 188 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: have cars slow down. NASCAR has softer walls in a 189 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: hunt's device. They don't want to go one thirty. They 190 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, they want you to be going at two 191 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour. So do they make it safer, yeah, 192 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: but they still want you going really really fast. But 193 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: the NFL with seventeen games, all right, go ahead, full 194 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: speed ahead, more fantasy, more gambling, yeah, more money. Yeah. 195 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: See feels like we're entering the load management era of 196 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: NFL with all these all these games. I'm gonna sit 197 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: this week nine out and give myself a break thing. Yeah, 198 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm wondering about that if there is load management, Yeah 199 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: mclen Yeah, I was gonna ask if you were worried 200 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: about the quality of play by by week seventeen or eighteen. Well, 201 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: I was always worried about what that week seventeen, that 202 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: seventeenth game meant. What are the matchups there? And as 203 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: long as you're able to keep our interest, because sometimes 204 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: you have a team that's wins its division by you know, 205 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: three games, and then they end their season with a 206 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: game against the Jets, and then you go, okay that 207 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't matter, and you might have a couple of 208 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: those games weeks sixteen and seventeen. Plus the Cowboys can't 209 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: go eight and eight, you know, it's just it's not eight, 210 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: eight and one. They could yes time by adding playoff 211 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: spots at least that maybe decreases it a little bit. 212 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: There's still a chance that some games could be totally meaningless, 213 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: but maybe it's somewhat less by week seventeen. Yeah, but 214 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: then you're adding more than the regular season doesn't mean 215 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: as much. I mean, these are all the arguments I hear, 216 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Like college football. The regular season doesn't mean anything, you 217 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: know if you put in eight teams or sixteen teams. Okay, 218 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: but that's where we're headed. Remember gambling, gambling, the big evil. Oh, 219 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: we don't even talk about gambling. Don't even talk about 220 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: the odds? Okay, Now does that matter? All out? The 221 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: open is everybody realized, as I said, for many years, 222 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: when they figure out how they all make their money, 223 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: then we're gonna have this. How do we make all? Right? 224 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: How much we met? Well like gamble? Yes, okay, ten 225 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,479 Speaker 1: years like what happened ten years ago? You were philosophically 226 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: against gambling, like what happened exactly? Yeah, well, players safety, 227 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: what happened? I think that's what it is. All right? 228 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: What else do you have? Mclove And then we'll take 229 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: a break here and we'll talk about the Pro Days 230 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: with Mac Jones and Justin Fields. I said it. I 231 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: firmly believe it because I was told by a source 232 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: and I've said it the last couple of weeks. Teams 233 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: are overthinking Justin Fields. This is prior to the Pro 234 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Day because, as my source said, he did everything you 235 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: want him to do. Did he have bad games? Yes? 236 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: Did he come back and have a great game against Clemson? 237 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: Did he play hurt? Did he have six touchdown pass? Like? 238 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: We already know what he can do, But because he 239 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: ran a four four forty and he was throwing passes 240 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: to guys who were not covered by anybody, all of 241 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: a sudden, I stall this in a New York New 242 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: York paper. Should the Jets be reconsidering Zach Wilson at 243 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: number two? I went, did you watch Justin Fields play 244 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: at all? When guys were actually trying to tackle him? 245 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: When the guys play defense. I think Justin Fields was 246 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: around too long. I think it hurts that he went 247 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: to Ohio State and there's a track record, a recent 248 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: track record with their quarterbacks not being as good as advertised. 249 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: But I didn't see anything yesterday that changed my opinion 250 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: of Justin Fields. I think he's an incredible as incredible 251 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: potential here to be a starting quarterback and a good 252 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Do I think he'll be great? I have 253 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: no idea. But if you look at Trey Lamb and 254 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: we don't know as much about Trey Lance, and you 255 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: have teams probably saying they put him up there higher, 256 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: like Mac Jones overthrew a couple of guys yesterday. So 257 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: now he's not what the Niners want. What did he 258 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: do in games? That's what I want to know, Yes, 259 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: mic Lovin, So what does a four four forty mean? 260 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: And by the way, he's fast? Okay, can we stop 261 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: with the pro day forties? Everybody sending records of these 262 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: pro days? Come on, we know a tenth of a 263 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: second I translate four four to four to five four 264 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: to combine. I'm sorry, I just don't believe these are 265 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: all right, that's fine, you can do that. These four 266 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: four makes him like, you know, that's like the fastest 267 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL and he weighs two hundred twenty pounds. 268 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: It goes back to what we say every time with 269 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: the combine or a pro day. Don't read too much 270 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: into it. That's all. Just hopefully you look at the tape. 271 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: What's on that tape? You talk to people? What kind 272 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: of student of the game is he? Does he hang 273 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: out with the wrong people? Like, there's you do your 274 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: dude dilligence here. It's all you overthink it or you 275 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: underthink it. Yeah, pull, if you're mac Jones, you refuse 276 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: to do the forty, Just say the only forty running 277 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: is when I run down and congratulate my wide receiver 278 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: on a long touchdown path. Time that all of a sudden, 279 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: he didn't look good yesterday, don't you see Belichick? He 280 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: was shaking his head. Oh my god. But I don't 281 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: know what that meant. I don't know now all of 282 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: a sudden, what the Patriots aren't getting Mac Jones? Are they? 283 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm not Mac Jones going to the Niners now, he's not. 284 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: What did Kyle Shanahan think he overthrew that wide open 285 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: wind receiver there? Yes, I've heard a lot of why 286 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: did the Niners trade up to number three for mac 287 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: Jones when they could have traded up to some other number. 288 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard that, Like like people 289 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: are like, well, did you really have to go to 290 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: three to get mac Jones? That's a big question out there. 291 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: If it's mac Jones, it gets weird. It seems so obvious, 292 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: and maybe they take mac Jones now. I my intel 293 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: says that Trey Lance is the you know, the player 294 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: that interests them. But I you know, that's one person 295 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 1: telling me so. I don't know. It didn't feel like 296 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: Mac you had to go all the way up to 297 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: her to get mac Jones. I agree, but as I 298 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: told you, it was my last week and I said, hey, 299 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 1: this is what I'm getting told They people love capital letters, 300 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: love Mac Jones moving up, and I went okay, And 301 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: then we realized San Francisco needed to move up to 302 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: get whoever their quarterback is. Maybe that is mac Jones, 303 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: you asked me, clone. Yeah, like a few years ago 304 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: at the end of March, we never would have thought 305 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: that you would have to move up to one to 306 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: get Baker Mayfield. Like it feels like that. I remember, like, yeah, 307 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: guys fly up at the end. Yes, because nobody is 308 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: going to tell you the truth. They there's no reason 309 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: to tell you the truth. There's a lot of reasons 310 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: to lie to you. And that's what happens here. Thanks 311 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Listen to Lights Out with Sean merm 328 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: call the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 329 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: Matt joined ESPN in February and contributes across several shows, 330 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: including Get Up NFL Live, and he joins us on 331 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: the program. All Right, Matt, So we're not supposed to 332 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: read too much into these pro days, but everybody's reading 333 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: into these pro days. You want to start with Mac 334 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: Jones and his disappointing pro day or Justin Fields with 335 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: his unbelievable pro Day. Yeah, Dan, I've been doing this 336 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: long enough to know that these things really don't matter. 337 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: They just give us something to talk about in the 338 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: month of March. You know, it's like there's a little 339 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: bit of tournament is starting to die down. Let's talk 340 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: about pro days. Let's get excited about guys throwing in 341 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: shorts or running forties when that doesn't really matter. Like 342 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: you said, so, I don't know that I want to 343 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: put too much into Mac Jones overthrowing a couple of 344 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: passes and Bill Belichick shaking his head or Kyle Shanahan 345 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: looking board as opposed to justin fields and who was there, 346 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: who wasn't there. I would hope that in a time 347 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: where we should be better at evaluating quarterbacks than we've 348 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: ever been before, we would go back to who was 349 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: actually good from Labor Day to New Year's Day, And 350 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: to me, that was justin Fields. And he's done it 351 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: for two years, never losing a game in the Big ten. 352 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's oppressive. I was at the Pro day Friday. 353 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: He is impressive, probably the most fun quarterback prospect to 354 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: watch this year. But he did it in the Mountain 355 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: West in a week schedule. And if you go back 356 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: to twenty nineteen, eleven touchdowns to nine interceptions when he 357 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: actually had to play someone from the Pac twelve, which 358 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: is like the fifth best football conference, so I'm not 359 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: all in on the pro days mattering that much. Hopefully 360 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: it just reminds people who these players actually are. What 361 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: are your quarterback rankings right now? Yeah, well, Trevor Lawrence 362 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: is one. I'm not dumb enough to argue against that. 363 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: I have justin fields number two, which is funny because 364 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: these two have been competing for that top spot since 365 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: there were sophomores in high school. Then I would say 366 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: that Zach Wilson and Trey Lance are very comparable in 367 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: terms of there's a lot of wow factor there, but 368 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of boom or bus potential because we 369 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: haven't seen them do this against decent competition, even and 370 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: at small sample sizes. With Trey, then I have Mac Jones, fith. 371 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: I know he's the fellow of the ball right now, 372 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: and we got the Tom Brady comparisons out there. That's 373 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: wild to me that we're going to do that for 374 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: a guy who's played seventeen games at Alabama, He's never 375 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: not thrown to a first rounder at wide receiver. He's 376 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: got an all world offensive line in front of him, 377 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: a first round running back, and an offense a coordinator 378 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: good enough to get the Texas head coaching jobs. So 379 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: it's just hard to look at that and not feel 380 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: a little Mitch Traubisky ish. One year and we're blown 381 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: away by the football iq on the upside and we 382 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: forget to actually watch what these guys can do at 383 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: the position. Okay, do you think the Niners moved up 384 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: to get mac Jones? Absolutely? I do, which as a 385 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: as a lifelong Niners fan, that's such a punch to 386 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: the stomach. And I'm trying to trust John Lynch and 387 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: Kala Shanahan, but I remember when they said they didn't 388 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: need a quarterback and they passed on Patrick Mahomes and 389 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson only to pick up CJ. Beth in the 390 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: third round. So I'm I'm still a little gunshy about 391 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: trusting this front office, and this just feels like something 392 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: they would do. They would overthink it again, just like 393 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: trading back to get Solomon Thomas or drafting Ruben Foster 394 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: in the first round. It it feels like this front 395 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: office is a little too cute sometimes. But Matt, did 396 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: the Niners have to do this to get mac Jones? 397 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: They didn't have to go to three Dan, I don't 398 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: think they did. Now, maybe to seven, maybe to six, 399 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: which we saw that pick get traded already, But I 400 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: don't think you needed to go from twelve to three 401 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: to get mac Jones. I don't think the Atlanta Falcons 402 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: with Arthur Smith, is going to look at mac Jones 403 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: and be like, coming from Ryan Tannehill, that's the quarterback 404 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 1: I want. I feel like the Falcons would be all 405 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: in on Justin Fields, who's a local kid, Trey Lance, 406 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: who has great athleticism. There's a beautiful deep ball if 407 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: they even go quarterback. The Bengals are drafting a quarterback 408 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: at five, The Eagles weren't going to at six, so 409 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: the Niners had other options. So my hope and prayer, 410 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: as someone who's still a little bit of a forty 411 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: nine Ers fan, is that that is a move for 412 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: Justin Fields. And I would say that even as an 413 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: unbiased evaluator. Kyle Shanahan, I understand loves Matt Ryan and 414 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, Luca, Who's beat you, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, 415 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. What are they all have in common? And 416 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: it's mobility. Not that mac Jones is a statue back there, 417 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: but you want plus level mobility Justin Fields ran a 418 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: four four, two hundred and thirty pounds and has a 419 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: great arm. I don't understand why they would think this, 420 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: but sometimes we see too much of you know, one 421 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: of these draft prospects, Matt and you know DeShawn Watson, 422 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: the player. We saw too much of him, and it 423 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: felt like we love the guy that we don't see, 424 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones, Mitchell Chubisky. We love the mystery here 425 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: instead of what's right in front of us. Well that 426 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: I call it prospect fatigue. I can remember an NFL 427 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: general manager telling me Nick Vos is not that good. 428 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: I was like, you're insane, man, It's just you're just 429 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: looking at the fact that we've seen him play for 430 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: three years. Nick vose Is were the best pass rushing 431 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: prospects ever. But we get to this point of the 432 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: cycle where we're all a little bored. We all want 433 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: that tweet that's gonna get a lot of clicks. We 434 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: all want to, you know, hit the scroll on the 435 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: bottom of the screen with our takes instead of I 436 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: wish there was this moment where we could just catch 437 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: our breaths and say, okay, where were we December thirty first, 438 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: on these guys, and unless something happened in terms of 439 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: injury or off field, or they show up to their 440 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: pro day and just their twenty pounds overweight and can't run, 441 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: Let's go back to where we were Mber thirty first, 442 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: who was actually good at playing football. But you're right, 443 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: we want the Kyler Murray, who you know, the one 444 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: year guy. We want Mitchell Troubisky instead of Deshaun Watson 445 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: beat Alabama single handedly, Patrick Mahomes on a very bad 446 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: Texas Tech team, made them competitive in the Big twelve. 447 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: Those are the things and why I look at justin 448 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Fields of We've seen you do it for three years 449 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: and even this year he threw six picks. Some of 450 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: that was, you know, his offensive line wasn't very good. 451 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: Some of it was on him. Go back last year 452 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: he didn't throw a pick. I don't believe it until 453 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: the end of the season. So it's not that he's 454 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: this turnover laden quarterback. He was a very conservative passer. 455 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: It does feel like the collective draft media this year 456 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: has decided Justin Fields as the guy they're going to 457 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: be down on. He's Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft contributor, 458 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: What Happens Now leading up to the draft. That may 459 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: change what happens with the draft order. You know, I 460 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing would be, like you mentioned, Deshaun 461 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: Watson is off the table right now that there's not 462 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: going to be a trade there. I think that Sam 463 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: Darnold being moved could affect the draft order. But it 464 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: feels like we're locked in, which I know the bosses 465 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: don't like, right because there's no drama and injuring Trevor 466 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: Lawrence is gonna go first, Dack Wilson's gonna go a second. 467 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: It feels like mac Jones goes third. And then you're 468 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: on the clock at four, so it's you're an hour 469 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: into the draft before you're even like, I wonder what 470 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: the Falcons will do, And so unless Atlanta trades out 471 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: of that spot, there might be a little intrigue there. 472 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: But you know, Sam Jarnald being trade could trade could 473 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: provide some clarity. It feels like the Russell Wilson stuff, 474 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: unless he comes back on your show and talks again 475 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: and you know, gets some stuff back on the trade market. 476 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: It feels like those types of things have died down 477 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: where we're really starting to settle into knowing what teams 478 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: want even you know the rumors that Joe Burrow is 479 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: really advocating for Jamar Chase's former teammate there pro day 480 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: is today at LSU. You know even that you're starting 481 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: to say, okay, like picks one through five, you would 482 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: feel pretty good about your mock draft right now. The 483 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: best player in this draft or best players, give me 484 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: three regardless of position. Yeah, it's Trevor Lawrence. He is 485 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: the best player in this draft. And I love that 486 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: we've just stopped talking about him because it's accepted. He's 487 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: gonna go first. He's great, Let's move on. I think 488 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is second. Again the LSU Priday's today. We 489 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: haven't seen him play football on a year, which I 490 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: think some people looked at the one hundred and seventy 491 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: pounds DeVante Smith and started saying that he was somehow 492 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: better than Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase is forty pounds heavier, 493 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: he's gonna run faster in the forty and he had 494 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns as a sophomore. With Joe Burrow third, I 495 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: would go Kyle Pitts, and I don't even want to 496 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: put a position on Kyle Pitts. He's an offensive weapon. 497 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: It's just a pass catcher at Florida. There protais today 498 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: as well. I think he's gonna run in the four 499 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: mid four four range. At six foot five, two hundred 500 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: and forty five pounds, he was unstoppable last year at Florida. 501 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: He and Kyle Trask had a beautiful connection, and the 502 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: ability to high point in the red zone to win 503 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: over the top reminds me of Mike Evans. So yeah, 504 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: I'm not even comparing this guy to a tight end. 505 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: He's just someone who in the red zone could be 506 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: a huge difference maker. If I had last year's quarterbacks 507 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: in with this year's quarterbacks, who would be the number 508 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 1: one overall pick? It would be closer than I think 509 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people realize. But I do think it 510 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: would be Trevor Lawrence just because the three years that 511 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: we've seen, you know, take it over the job from 512 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: Kelly Bryant as a freshman. We've seen it sustained for 513 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: a while with Joe Burrow. There was even people last 514 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: year like, maybe Tuah is the best quarterback, maybe justin 515 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: Herbert is because with Joe it was the one year wonder. 516 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: You know that Joe Brady gets there, everything becomes perfect 517 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: and he has the best quarterback season I've ever seen 518 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: in college football. But I do think Lawrence would be one, 519 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: Burrow would be two. I think they're the conversation. It's interesting. 520 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: The injury to Tuah would probably put Zach Wilson ahead 521 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: of him, might even put Justin Fields ahead of him, 522 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: and then we would probably see Tuah and Justin Herbert, 523 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: who was overthought a lot, like I think Justin Fields 524 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: is being overthought. But it's crazy. The league feels like 525 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: it's changed in the last just year where mobility is 526 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: so much more valued now than it was even in 527 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty. Yeah, but drop back quarterbacks have 528 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: been winning super Bowls. Well that's just Tom Brady, right right, obviously, 529 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: like Tom Brady has been winning Super Bowls. You know, 530 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: other wise it's it's Mahomes, it's Rogers, it's Wilson. So 531 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: you know, we have to you almost have to mobility. 532 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: Mobility is you know, it's kind of in the eye 533 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: of the beholder because I like mobility, you know, I 534 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: don't I don't need to have somebody who is I 535 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: need you sliding in the pocket, I need you getting 536 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: outside the pocket. Uh. You know, Mahomes wasn't isn't a 537 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: fast guy. I mean his forties mobility, not a runner. Yeah, 538 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: being able to move to throw, not move to run. 539 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. And I do think that 540 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: to some degree that might hurt Justin Fields and Trey 541 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: Lances that they were asked to run a decent amount. 542 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: Especially Justin Fields was at Georgia as a true freshman. 543 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: Jake Frown was the quarterback and he would come in 544 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: and run QB power, And so I think that that 545 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: is affecting their stock a little bit. Where Zach Wilson 546 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: moves to throw, Mac Jones moves to throw, even though 547 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: I think a hundred dropbacks was all he was pressured 548 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: in his seventeen starts. So there's not a big sample 549 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: size of that. But it's not his fault that Alabama 550 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: has spart rounders in every position on the offensive line. 551 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: Have you ever loved a quarterback and he didn't pan out? 552 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: When's the last time that happened? Yeah, that happens all 553 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: the time in this job. I loved Teddy Bridgewater. I 554 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: watching Teddy at Louisville was like, this is this is it? This? 555 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: He's accurate, he's smart, tough, and just let him, you know, 556 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: let him work off reads on guys. That's not a 557 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: bad one though, Matt, because I loved him too. But 558 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, without that injury, you know, I really and 559 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: I liked the character of Teddy Bridgewater too, same and 560 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: he didn't have a good pro day, But I just said, 561 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, put on the tape when he played Miami, 562 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: he gets hit right in the mouth, you know exactly. 563 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know with these quarterbacks. What 564 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: do you do when there's adversity. That's a huge part, 565 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: that's huge. That's one of my big keys into my 566 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: scattering reports is adversity. And it's like Justin Fields gets 567 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: rocked by Clemson. I would still be laying on the 568 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: field crying at that. Zach Wilson, even there's some adversity there. 569 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: He had two injuries in college. They told him before 570 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: the year is an open job. This job might not 571 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: be yours next year. So I think you look at 572 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: those things and you want some adversity. But then again, 573 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck two of the greatest 574 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: quarterback prospects ever, arguably no adversity. So you have to 575 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: like you have to almost look for it sometimes. Trevor 576 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Lawrence has been the number one pick probably since he 577 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: picked up a football as a sophomore in high school. 578 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: And you know there's some credit to that too, that 579 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: you've been in that spot license you were sixteen years old, 580 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: and you've been a great leader, You've been a great 581 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: captain on your team. He's already engaged, he's supermature, So 582 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: there's something to be said for that too. Hypothetical. If 583 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning coming out of college, Andrew Luck coming out 584 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: of college, and Trevor Lawrence coming out of college and 585 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: you got the first pick, I'm gonna give you what 586 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: you already know about Luck and Payton and the unknown 587 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence, who would Matt Miller ESPN NFL Draft 588 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: Contributor taken number one overall? I'm taking Peyton Manning. You 589 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: can't go against Peyton even in today's game. He's just 590 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: too smart, carves up the field and accuracy at all levels. 591 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: And I think Peyton was sneaky athletic early in his career. 592 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: Deceptively fast, I think that's that's what we have to 593 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: call it. But he could move around a little bit. 594 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't quite as bad as it wasn't 595 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: at Denver Days. Okay, So I thought you might go, 596 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,959 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, you know, Recency Vias, trying to get this 597 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: clipped out in five years and people be like, idiot, 598 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: Actually thought, Trevor laws the payment, I'm not doing that. 599 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: Well done, Matt, well done. Hey, congrats on the job, 600 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: and we'll be watching and thanks for joining us. Yeah, 601 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Dan, thank you. That's Matt Miller, ESPN 602 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: NFL Draft contributor. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick 603 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 604 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on 605 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us on the 606 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live on the 607 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: Peacock app. Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk Live joining 608 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: us on the program. Mike, let me start with Deshaun Watson. 609 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: I said, from the outset, I wasn't getting into the 610 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: sealasious details with Deshaun Watson. I was trying to look 611 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: at it from a football perspective of when he'll play, 612 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: if he'll play, where he'll play, and but you know, 613 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: I read something that you wrote yesterday, and you were 614 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: kind of looking at both of these lawyers with what 615 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: they're saying and how they're framing certain things here, and 616 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: I thought it would be really beneficial to the audience 617 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: to at least understand where we are right now and 618 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: where you think we're going to be headed with Deshaun Watson, 619 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 1: well Dan two courts in a situation like this, the 620 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: court of law in the court of public opinion, and 621 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: a lot has been playing out in the court of 622 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: public opinion. The only thing that's played out in a 623 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: court of law so far. Nineteen lawsuits filed, and the 624 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: way that it works, the civil complaint gets filed once 625 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: service is performed, and in this case, Rusty Harden, the 626 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: lawyer for Deshaun Watson, accepting actual process that starts the 627 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: clock on a response. You can file an answer to 628 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: the allegations, and there will be nineteen of them in 629 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: this case, you can file a motion in response to 630 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,719 Speaker 1: the complaint. I won't be surprised if there isn't some 631 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: type of an effort by Rusty Harden to challenge all 632 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: of these complaints based upon the fact that they've been 633 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: filed under a pseudonym that has been one of the 634 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: complaints we've seen publicly from Rusty Harden. And I'm not 635 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: commenting on the accuracy of any of the allegations here. 636 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the legal mechanics. He could file emotion 637 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 1: to dismiss, emotion for a more definite statement, something aimed 638 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: at finding out who the individuals are who are making 639 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 1: these claims, because he's complained about that that tactic so 640 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: many times in his public statements, so there could be 641 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: emotion to dismiss on that basis. At some point, though 642 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: the battle is officially joined, the court sets a trial 643 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: date and it all moves forward with the discovery process. 644 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: Deposition testimony, people people telling their versions under oath, documents 645 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: being obtained, text messages, etc. Typically takes eighteen months to 646 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: two years in most jurisdictions for it to resolve. So, 647 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: barring a settlement, and I've advocated publicly repeatedly, the best 648 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: thing for Deshaun Watson have his reckoning, make this right, 649 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: satisfy whatever concerns these individuals have, and move on. Otherwise 650 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: this is going to hover over him. The Texans in 651 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: the league for two years, Dan, are the police involved, well, 652 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: the criminal courts are not yet involved. And this is 653 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: where it gets a little confusing. There was a social 654 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: media post last night from Tony Busby, who represents all 655 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: nineteen of the plaintiffs, suggesting that he didn't go through 656 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: with his vow to submit evidence to the Houston Police 657 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: Department because he's got concerns that he ran for mayor 658 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: and there may be some Look, it's the height of 659 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: cynicism to suggest that there would be nineteen individuals and 660 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: nineteen who have concerns that the law was violated, and 661 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 1: that those concerns would not properly be processed and handled 662 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: by the Houston Police because somebody doesn't like Tony Busby. 663 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, if there's any truth in that, 664 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: then these nineteen women should be represented by someone else 665 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: if the lawyer is going to be an impediment to 666 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: them getting justice in criminal court. Now, Dan, I'll say 667 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: this as it stands now. The very high bar of 668 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: proof beyond a reasonable doubt that applies in criminal cases, 669 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: I think it's difficult to satisfy that based upon the 670 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: allegations we've seen and the evidence that seems to be 671 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: out there, which comes down to one person's word against another's. 672 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 1: But if you go forward with the civil cases, Shaun 673 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: Watson has a hell of a decision to make. If 674 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: there's a possibility of prosecution and you get put under 675 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: oath in the civil case, what are you gonna do. 676 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: You're gonna invoke your right against self incrimination under the 677 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: Fifth Amendment. You're basically forfeiting the civil case if you 678 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: do that. But if you talk and you get twisted 679 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: in knots by an aggressive lawyer, you may give a 680 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: prosecutor a roadmap for trying to put your behind bars. 681 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: That's another reason why I say the best thing for 682 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: him to do find a way to get these cases 683 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: resolved to the satisfaction of the individuals. I'm not saying 684 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: make it go away. I'm saying deal with it, deal 685 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: with it, resolve it. Otherwise it can lead to all 686 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: sorts of problems down the road. If this was September 687 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson be in uniform, oh, I thought Mike 688 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: was giving it great thought. There's very dramatic pause there. 689 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,919 Speaker 1: So we lost Florio, so we'll try to get him back. 690 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: I want to ask him one more question about Deshaun Watson. 691 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: Then the seventeen game schedule. Thanks for listening to The 692 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 693 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to 694 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station 695 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: for The Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, 696 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 697 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: by searching f s R, or stream US live on 698 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: the Peacock app. Mike Florio trying to extend his airtime 699 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: and he's done a great job, so we bring Mike 700 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 1: back on loan from Pro Football Talk Live. When I 701 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: last left you, Mike, and I thought I asked a 702 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: really great question that made you pause, and apparently that 703 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: was not the case. But if it's September, given what 704 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is going through right now, is Deshaun Watson 705 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,479 Speaker 1: in uniform in September? Let me preface this by saying 706 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: Dan that under the policies that the NFL has available 707 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: to it, it can do whatever it wants and precedent 708 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. Every case is treated individually and it's 709 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: all driven by pr Personal Conduct Policy Commissioner examplest. It's 710 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: all about how does it make the NFL look. Most employers, 711 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: vast majority don't care what you do away from work. 712 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: I think about that all this conduct is away from 713 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: the workplace. But the NFL and the NFL Players Association 714 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: of agreed that these things that happen away from work 715 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,720 Speaker 1: can affect the way the players are viewed, the teams 716 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: are viewed, the league is viewed. So discipline is available commissioners, example, 717 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: ists paid leave. I firmly believe that if these cases 718 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: are still hovering when September rolls around, haven't been resolved 719 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 1: moving forward in the civil justice system, that the league 720 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: will strongly consider are putting Deshaun Watson on paid leave, 721 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: and that would be the Ottoman irony here. He's wanted 722 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: out of Houston so badly. That may be his only 723 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: financial lifeline this year, getting ten million plus to not 724 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: play while on paid leave and a tealion is going 725 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: to come in handy if he's defending what is now 726 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: dan according to the Houston Chronicle, twenty one assault lawsuits 727 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: that have been filed against him, and who knows how 728 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: many more there will be. Commissioners said, we're gonna have 729 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: fans in the stands to start the season. Is that 730 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: kind of across all platforms here, all teams, all states 731 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to have a capacity. 732 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: I think it's wishful thinking. In some states, obviously, Texas, Florida, 733 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: you're going to have full stadiums no matter what the 734 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: status of the pandemic is. That's not a political comment, 735 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: that's just a fact. Other states, they may be a 736 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: little more hesitant. I think what the Commissioner may be 737 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: trying to do here Dan is speaking into existence in 738 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: some of these states that may be less inclined to 739 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: say full attendance is permitted. We got a long way 740 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: to go before we get to September. We got a 741 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: lot of progress we still need to make when it 742 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: comes to the pandemic. Recently the news hasn't been good. 743 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: It fluctuates as more people get vaccinated, but five months 744 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: is a lifetime as far as the pandemic is concerned. 745 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: There's reason for optimism, but there's still a lot more 746 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: that needs to be done. And specifically, you got to 747 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: convince California, New York, Massachusetts, other state and local governments 748 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: that it's okay not just to have some fans present, 749 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: but to have a full capacity. Your biggest concern with 750 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: the seventeen game schedule is I don't know that I 751 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: have a concern per se, because the bottom line is 752 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: the players voted for it, the league was determined to 753 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: get it. They were going to get it. My biggest 754 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: expectation is it's a stop over to eighteen, and it's 755 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: just a matter of when the league makes the push 756 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: for eighteen. Will it be when this current CBA expires 757 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: will it be before that. One of the things about 758 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 1: the new TV deals dan the league has the ability 759 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 1: to pull the plug on all of them seven years 760 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: in a one time out. I fully expect the league 761 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: to take that out. And that's a spot where you 762 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: can say, we have another weekend of games for you, 763 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: we want more money for that. The gambling side of 764 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: it has continued to grow. We think the rights are 765 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: more valuable, and I think that that proliferation of gambling. 766 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: It's about twenty states now twenty two states. It's going 767 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: to get the thirty thirty five, forty. I think the 768 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: hard ceiling is forty four because there's only forty four 769 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 1: states now that have lotteries. But once we get more 770 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: and more states, more and more money, more and more revenue, 771 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: more and more football, I think eighteen is inevitable. They 772 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: still want eighteen they just decided that seventeen is the 773 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: easier sell for now. Everybody get paid as far as 774 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: the players go with, you get an extra check with 775 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: an extra game. I think they hashed that all out, 776 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: and it was so long ago I have to go 777 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: back and refresh my memory. They came up with a 778 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: deal where you get an extra check at the rate 779 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: you were supposed to make, although there may be a 780 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: cap on that for some players that would be unfair. 781 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: I think the bottom line is you should get one 782 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: more check at the same rate that you were already 783 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: due to make for playing that extra game, and I 784 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,439 Speaker 1: think anything less than that would be patently unfair. Talking 785 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host, you 786 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: know this whole these pro days, and I know you 787 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: don't know do deep dives into these kind of things, 788 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: but you know, we're seeing this play out where San 789 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: Francisco goes up and we assume they're taking mac Jones, 790 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: and then Mac Jones maybe didn't perform as well as 791 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: he should have yesterday, and then Justin fields plays or 792 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: performs really well. Here is any of this going to 793 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: matter when we get to the draft in less than 794 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: a month. I don't think it ultimately does. Now the 795 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: difference between this year and other year's Dan there's no 796 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: opportunity for the private workout where any concerns that a 797 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: team may have could be alleviated. I remember in twenty fourteen, 798 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater did his Pro Day workout without his gloves 799 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: and it was a disaster. Well, then the Vikings did 800 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: a private workout with him. He put the gloves on, 801 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: and they fell in love with him, and so that 802 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: was that problem solved. We're seeing guys do multiple Pro 803 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: Day workouts this year, so so coaches can come and 804 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: watch what they do, like Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch 805 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: yesterday and Tuscaloosa, and I don't read a whole lot 806 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: into anything that happens. Simpson. I were talking about it 807 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: earlier today on the overthrow that drew the flashback by 808 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan to Jimmy Garoppolo missing Emmanuel Sanders in Super 809 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty four. I mean, we don't know if the 810 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: guy ran the route too slow, if he pulled up 811 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: at the end, if he wasn't gonna lay out and 812 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 1: risk injuring himself trying to catch that ball. It wasn't 813 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: a horrible like missed him by twenty yards overthrow, and 814 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: if anything, you'd rather overthrow than underthrow. And if he 815 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: under throws it, the guy slows down and catches it. 816 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: You say, hey, he completed the pass in a game. 817 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: You throw that ball, it's possibly going to be picked 818 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: off by the safety. Yeah, I know it's we're told reminded, 819 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: don't read too much into these pro days. And then 820 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you start to see some of 821 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 1: the New York media saying, should the Jets reconsider Zach 822 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: Wilson at number two? And maybe justin Field just based 823 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 1: off him. Yeah, but that fields that Field's throw. He's 824 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: running right to left and he's throwing the ball in 825 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: the direction he's running, and he puts his entire body 826 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 1: into that throw. The Zach Wilson throw that got everyone 827 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: fired up. He's going right to left and he sends 828 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: it back the other way with a flick of the wrist. 829 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: That's why Simms has Wilson at number one on his 830 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: board of quarterbacks, because he sees Mahomes and Rogers in 831 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: the things Wilson can do effortless flick of the wrist 832 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: sixty yards down the field. Yeah, it's called Mahomesian. I've 833 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: coined the phrase Mahomesian throws. I like that. Okay, I'll 834 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: use that. You can take it. I mean, it doesn't matter. 835 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: I mean I'm John Stockton and just something every time 836 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: I say it. No no, no, no no no no no. 837 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 1: But you know, I just I just like John Stockton. 838 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: I just I'll throw it to you. You can be 839 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: Carl Malone. But there's gonna be a whole generation of kids, seriously, 840 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: who have watched Patrick Mahomes. I mean, Michael Jordan did 841 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: the basketball. Patrick Mahomes is going to do the quarterback position. 842 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: There's gonna be, you know, five, ten, fifteen years from now, 843 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: more and more guys who come into the NFL playing 844 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: like Mahomes And already here comes a guy, Zach Wilson 845 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 1: who can play like Mahomes. It's going to revolutionize the 846 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: game when there are enough of those guys playing quarterback. 847 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: That that's the kind of stuff we see any body position, 848 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: any arm angle, just these incredible throws where the ball 849 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: just gets rifled down the field with a flick of 850 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,720 Speaker 1: the wrist. It's it's awesome, it's great for the future 851 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: of the game. Well, Mahomes is doing for quarterbacks what 852 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: Steph Curry is doing for shooters. And Steph Curry to me, 853 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: has had the biggest impact on the NBA in a 854 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: long time, even bigger from the standpoint than Jordan. From that, 855 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 1: everybody thinks they can do what Steph Curry does. Nobody knew, 856 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: nobody thought they could do what Jordan did with Mahomes. 857 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: These quarterbacks all think that they can do what Mahomes does, 858 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: or they can at least try to do that. You 859 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: know that. What I think is, you know the impact 860 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,240 Speaker 1: that these two are going to have on their respective sports. 861 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: That's right, because a certain percentage of the quarterbacks who 862 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: try will realize they can do it, they'll practice it, 863 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: they'll work on it, and then the next thing you know, 864 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: you got another Patrick Mahomes and another Patrick Mahomes, and 865 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: it bodes very well for the future of the sport 866 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: and Dan. You know, five years ago, I would have 867 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: said there's no way in hell they're going to expand 868 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: the NFL because there aren't enough quarterbacks. I think we're 869 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: getting to the point where there's enough quarterbacks, and I'm 870 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: telling you, once they get to eighteen games, the next 871 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: way you increase inventory for gambling purposes is to increase teams. 872 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: Just wait for it. It's coming thirty four, thirty six. 873 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 1: They're going to start talking about it. And once they 874 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: start talking about it, you know they've got a plan 875 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,399 Speaker 1: in place to Okay, but where are we expanding too? Well? 876 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 1: I think that the overseas markets need to be taken seriously. 877 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: Two teams in London, maybe elsewhere. Peter King suggested last 878 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: night a full division of four teams that would be international, 879 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: and there's always a market or two in the US. 880 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: You could drop a team in San Diego, you could 881 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: drop a team in St. Louis, although Saint louis currently 882 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: suing the NFL for a lot of money. They'd have 883 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: to mend those fences first. And I've said for years 884 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: the prospect of a second team in Chicago. And they 885 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 1: got two baseball teams, right, why couldn't you put a 886 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: second NFL team in Chicago? And so I just think 887 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: that the push to have more football content that's televised, 888 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: with in game betting, play by play betting, more and 889 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: more and more, that they'll find places to put teams. Yeah, 890 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: they got to get one good team in Chicago, and 891 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: then I think that you can expand that, so it 892 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: would be the expansion team. Yeah. Yeah, they haven't had 893 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,399 Speaker 1: two good teams in New York for a decade. Well, 894 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, look at the the Jets haven't 895 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: done anything, and the Giants since they won the Super 896 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: Bowl ten years, they go been to the playoffs one time. 897 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 1: So we suggested they merge, and we thought that maybe 898 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 1: if they merge, they might be a playoff team. That's 899 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: but you know what, Zach, if they if they don't 900 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: screw up to Zach Wilson thing, the Jets may finally 901 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: have their Joe Namoth all these years later. Thank you, 902 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: Michael's always thanks Dann. Sorry about the technical issues, Buddy. 903 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: That's Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Line. 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