1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: How do you feel about the level of tan that 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: I am the lord? 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 2: I thought I was zooming with tam Mom. 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 3: Mom is on this goal. I feel it's so funny. 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 3: I'm looking at me in the zoom thing right now. 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 3: When your tan, your teeth looks so much wider. 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: You really do. 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, not that you need this, but the reason why 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 4: I love being tan is because it makes you thinner. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: You feel like it makes everybody just look better. 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 4: Just yeah, you just look better, but like it definitely 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 4: if you have like weight on your body, it makes 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 4: you look thinner. There used to be on Church Street 14 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: in Nashville there was like a tanning salona that had 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 4: a billboard, like the kind of you can change the letters. 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, a Marquee kind of thing. Okay said 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 4: tan fat looks better than skinny fat. 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: It's true though, I mean true, Like everybody, even though 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: I am slimmer whatever, I still feel like my body 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: looks totally different. Like I look like I have more muscles, 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: every things, more tone, more tight. 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: If I have a tan, yeah, this. 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 4: Is a I mean I wonder if it just creates 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: like shadows too, you know, contouring. 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: It's just a little bit of coverage too. 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to Charleston this weekend and it's warm 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 3: and I'm going to see my man. 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: I want it to look good. 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: Me. 30 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: I need a little spray tans I got the rapid 31 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: tan and if you look, it's like it's. 32 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: Like a polaroid like developing right in my eyes. 33 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 3: On the end of this podcast, you're I mean, I'm 34 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: gonna be so dark, so dark, but then I'll look 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 3: amazing about tonight, so. 36 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: You'd be so skinny, I won't see you. 37 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: Do you remember the days of tanning beds? I feel 38 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: like we've talked about this in the podcast before, but 39 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: did you go to the tanning bed? 40 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: Actually? 41 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can still remember the smell, you know, like 42 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: of your skin cooking. But I mean I lived in 43 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: Los Angeles and I had a membership in a tanning 44 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: bed like there was because you could go and like 45 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 4: on my lunch break, I'd get fifteen minutes of tan 46 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 4: in and I loved it, Like it just made me. 47 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: It would go for. 48 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: Ten or fifteen minutes and me a totally different color. 49 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: Just shows how bad it is. I'm sure right, like 50 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: it cannot. I actually don't think spray tanning is probably 51 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: that great either, But I do it every you know, sporadically, 52 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: and sometimes you're just like I need. 53 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: The little help, you need a little bit. 54 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: But do you remember how we used to I used 55 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: to put like stickers on, like the Buddy line or something, yeah, 56 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: playboy Bunny or like a heart or a star or whatever. 57 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: I thought that was so bad. Like when I was 58 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: in high school. 59 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: I thought I was a girl. No body when I 60 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: would go do that kind of stuff. 61 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 4: I remember, I can't even remember why I was there. 62 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 4: It must have been for a birthday party or something. 63 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 4: But okay, this was years ago in Los Angeles. We 64 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 4: went to Lance Bass's house. He had a room with 65 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: a tanning bed in it, and. 66 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: I was, I was. 67 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: I think the story was the I think he had 68 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 4: just bought the house and it was already there. 69 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: Well, but he kept it. 70 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: But he kept it like it had not been removed yet. 71 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: Was this pre in sync, during in sync or. 72 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: Post host in sync? 73 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: Okay, say, if he's in a boy Man and he 74 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: still had those frosted tips, he for sure would need 75 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: that tanning bed. 76 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: He would need a tanning bed. 77 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: It was definitely post and sync, but it was before 78 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: he got married, so he was still single at the time, 79 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: but I also remember the only two things I remember 80 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: about his house was well three things kind of where 81 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: it was, Yeah, the tanning bed and we found his 82 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 4: MTV moon Man and we all like we're. 83 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: Taking shoot, Yeah, giving sun little story. 84 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: This is kind of an interesting transition though, because we 85 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: just talked about like our tanning bed days. Obviously I've 86 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 3: transitioned into spray tanning, so this is a big one. 87 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: This is You're transitioning into tan mom right now. 88 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm currently transitioning into tan mom. 89 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: So a lot of rebranding happening for me, and I 90 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: was telling you about I did a podcast on Wednesday 91 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: with master astrologer Marvin Wilgerson. He was telling me about 92 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: what will have been the I'm trying to do time 93 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: here when I recorded with Marv the eclipse the areas 94 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: eclipse happening that weekend, and it's also happening. It's happening 95 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: tomorrow based on when you and I are recording. But 96 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: people are gonna be hearing this the week after it happens. 97 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: Not that this matters to you, guys, but I'm just 98 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: telling you anyway so we can all be on the 99 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: same page. But he was telling me about the eclipse, 100 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: the areas eclipse, and the whole thing that's happening right 101 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 3: now astrologically, energetically. I'm sure you guys are feeling this 102 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: in some way, shape or form. In the world in general. 103 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: Is things are being broken down so that we can 104 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: rebuild them. 105 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Basically, like everything bring. 106 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 3: Kind of but like this is on a much bigger 107 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: scale than what we usually feel each year. It's on 108 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: the scale of this hasn't happened since eighteen, like eighty 109 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: six kind of thing, this kind of astrology, Like I 110 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: think this eclipse the last time it happened in Arias, 111 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: this specific one happened the day after the Civil War started. 112 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: So if that gives you kind of the vibe of 113 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: where we are, it's very much like we're fed up 114 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: with the way things are going. We're going to fight 115 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: for what we believe in, whatever that looks like now, 116 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: Like it's not going to look exactly like the Civil 117 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: War looked like, and it's not just happening in America, 118 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: Like Marv made a point to be like, this is 119 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 3: happening in the world, but his whole point on a 120 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 3: personal level too, and on a personal level, like We're 121 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 3: all in this place. 122 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: Whether you feel it, don't feel it. 123 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: When I acknowledge it or not acknowledge it, it is happening. 124 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: We're all in this place of kind of reevaluating the 125 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: things in our lives that don't work, the relationships that 126 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 3: don't work, the jobs that don't work, the. 127 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Narratives in our head. 128 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: Like it could be whatever it is in your life 129 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: that feels like it's run its course and is misaligned, 130 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: it's probably going to break down right now, but that 131 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: is for it to be rebuilt and rebranded into something 132 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: more aligned with you better and overall that like just 133 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: functions better. So it can sound really scary, but it's 134 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: actually like, Okay, once we get through the hardship of it, 135 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: it's going to be really cool to. 136 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: See chang changes what happens. 137 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I. 138 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: Think we're seeing like there's a lot of things that 139 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: aren't working. Specifically, if we're going to the United States, 140 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: like you could go to the healthcare system, you could 141 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: go to our food system, you could look at our 142 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: government like it ain't working anymore. We got to figure 143 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: something else out. 144 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 145 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: So Yeah, anyway, all that to say is that was 146 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: the Astrology podcast this week, and you guys know the 147 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: new thing we do is on Friday podcast we talk 148 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: about what we did on the Wednesday podcast and a lighter, 149 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: more tangible, more day to day vibe. And so Chip 150 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: and I were like, well, should we talk about rebranding then, 151 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: because some transition. Yeah, we've both gone through some rebrands. 152 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: When we first started talking about it, I said, the 153 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: immediate thought I had was you with a perm? 154 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Do you remember this? 155 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: Yes? 156 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: You know. 157 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 4: The funny thing about that perm is I dreamt of 158 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: that for so long. I was actually born with curly hair. Interesting, 159 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 4: my mom has curly hair. Grandmother, my mom's mom was 160 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 4: a hairdresser. Yeah, and my sister has like who is older. 161 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: She was almost two years old when I was born. 162 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: She always had like pin straight hair, and I come 163 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: with a curly head of hair, and my grandmother he 164 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: cursed the heavens. 165 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: She was like, how could you do this? 166 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: Give this beautiful head of hair to a boy instead 167 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: of the girl? And three days later my hair was straight. 168 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: So I've always had this aching for curly hair. And 169 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 4: I found somebody that would do an organic perm in Nashville, 170 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: and I had a perm for a few years. You 171 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 4: really beautiful as I dreamt it would me like I like, 172 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: I look at pictures now and I'm like, what was 173 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: I thinking? 174 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: But in the moment I loved it. 175 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: Yes, And I feel like your hair in general has 176 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: been a source of rebranding for you, like you change 177 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 3: your hair when you're changing your life every single time. 178 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: I was blonde for a while, I used to cut 179 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: my own hair a because I was broken cheap, but 180 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: I thought I was doing a great job and not like. 181 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: You look broke with that haircut. 182 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 4: And I remember I was at the Hollywood Bowl because 183 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: now my hair I do it like up. 184 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: I was at the Hollywood Bowl seeing Mary J. 185 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: Blige and Jay Z that was the tour, and this 186 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: stranger sitting next to me was like, you have this. 187 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: It was a woman, and she just said, you have 188 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: really beautiful eyes. Why do you cover him up with 189 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: all that hair? And at the time, I was dating 190 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: a guy named Mark who was a hairdresser, and I 191 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: said something I was I told him that night afterwards, 192 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: and he goes, I've thought the same thing, but he was. 193 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: Like, as your boyfriend, I can't be like, let me 194 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: face so true. 195 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: And also Mark is like a celebrity. 196 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: Stylus, celebrity hair person, kill hairstylist, there is yes. 197 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: And so he still refused to do my hair and 198 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: he got his girl, his best friend, Aviva, did it, 199 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: and he was like, this is what you should do. 200 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: And he told me about like this is the shape 201 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: of my head. He was like, this is why you 202 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 4: need to do these things, like blah blah blah. And 203 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: it was like stuff that like the average person would 204 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 4: never know. And probably honestly, most you know, of the 205 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: hair people that I could afford. 206 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: At the time didn't know either. 207 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: No either, Yeah, and by that I mean myself, because 208 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 4: I was right. 209 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: I love that he wouldn't cut yours. My boyfriend and 210 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 3: I talk about this all the time. I'm like, he 211 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: asked me for fashion advice, so ask me for hair advice, 212 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: or like obviously I could cut his hair for him, 213 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: like shape it up, all that stuff, and I just 214 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 3: don't ever feel comfortable doing it for my boyfriends. 215 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: And like I'll give fashion advice a. 216 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: Little bit, but like it always feels like it's on 217 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: the what's the word precipice of bringing up a fight if. 218 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: I could could be a fight, yeah, yeah, Like it's. 219 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: Just building up to something because you don't want to 220 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: insult anyone. You want your person to feel like they're 221 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: amazing anyway, and obviously like I think he's so hot already. 222 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: It's not like I feel like he needs to change 223 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: all that stuff. 224 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 4: Do I When he pulls all the cargo shorts, you 225 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: got to be like, oh, I mean I I draw 226 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: the line a cargo short. 227 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: I don't know they're back in style. Actually that's not 228 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: really where I would draw. 229 00:09:58,760 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: I think. 230 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: I yeah, I have drawn lines on hats like that 231 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: is one thing. I'm just like, yeah, that was not 232 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: that's just not very current, you know. And I'll give feedback, 233 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: but it is a fine line you have to walk 234 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: when you're in a relationship with someone and this is 235 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 3: your job. 236 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think if they're asking for advice, that's true, 237 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: just for you just to be like nice true religions, 238 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: like but I can't. 239 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: We just that couldn't be dating him probably if that 240 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: was his style. 241 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Luckily he has really got it out. 242 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 243 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, all of this is to say, it really 244 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: got me thinking about rebranding because as we're talking about 245 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: we're talking about like the external things obviously and physical 246 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: changes that we make throughout life. I feel like I'm 247 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: in a rebrand of like aging right now, and if not, 248 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: it's not of choice, but I am aging, and I'm 249 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: having to go through what is my new vibe going 250 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 3: to be? What is you know, good for my face? 251 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: At this point, the things that we're working in the 252 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: past are not working now. That's the physical rebrand. But 253 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: it's really interesting when I start thinking about what's happening 254 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: on a bigger scale, like what we just talked about 255 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: with Marv and also just like what rebranding is in general. 256 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: I actually think it's kind of the point of life. 257 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: Like I was when we and I were talking about 258 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: this topic. At first, I said to you, I just 259 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: really think that rebranding, to me is more about self discovery, growth, evolution, 260 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: and leaning into the fact that we're constantly changing and 261 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: we're supposed to like that's to me, the entire point 262 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: of life. But often we do kind of miss that, 263 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: you know. It's like we've been programmed to think you 264 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 3: get to a certain age, you figure certain things out, 265 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 3: and then you. 266 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: Just exist like that is it. 267 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: And it's so it's like false advertising of what life 268 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: is actually about, or. 269 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 4: You get peggeda something like you're the funny guy, you're 270 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 4: the fat person one, you're the sensitive one. You know, 271 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 4: you're the athlete, and you feel like it is a 272 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: rule and all of the things. Those things could very 273 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 4: well be a very true piece of your identity. But 274 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: it's a piece of your identity. But it can be 275 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: very scary if you're the athlete who actually dreamt of 276 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: wanting to be an actor, and now all your athlete 277 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 4: friends are like, all right, you pansy, like no dance ballet, 278 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 4: you know, but you're like, if it's something that your 279 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 4: soul is telling you that you want to try. I 280 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: think it's really important to fight through the fear of 281 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: what other people's perceptions are of you, because the truth 282 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 4: is it's just you figuring you out, and you like 283 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: every little change allows you to grow and meet yourself 284 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: where yourself is in that moment. 285 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: You know. It's funny. After we were talking about it, 286 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: I wrote down a few things like I was like, 287 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: what are some of the things. 288 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 4: That I've done that that's like kind of scaring me 289 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: that like I don't even know where they fit in 290 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: my life. But like when I lived in New York, 291 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 4: I took guitar lessons, and I was like, I want 292 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 4: to do an open mic and I recorded it. 293 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: I took it in the office to play for my boss. 294 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: I don't know why I did that. 295 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 4: That's the scariest part. And she was like, why are 296 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: you doing this? And I was like, I think I'm 297 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 4: doing it because I want to like know that I 298 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 4: don't have to be scared. Because it was mortifying to 299 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: do because I also was I'm not a good guitar player, right, 300 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 4: you know, and I like sang an original song. It 301 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 4: was like mortifying. But then I in La I did 302 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 4: the ground wings. I just finished a four week class 303 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 4: on stand up writing in Nashville, and I have zero 304 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: desire to be a stand up comment zero. 305 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: But I think it's just one of those things. 306 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 4: Where it's like I allow my curiosity to guide me sometimes, 307 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: and I think that there are benefits to these things 308 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: that are beyond what the actual thing is. 309 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: You know. 310 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I hear that you're just challenging yourself to 311 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: keep evolving or trying new things, seeing what you're interested in, 312 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: and not just saying stuck in one version of yourself 313 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: for the rest of your life, right, which we were 314 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: talking about this in terms of successful musicians, And I 315 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: gave the example of Dolly Parton because obviously, like I 316 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: think it's really important to have core values and like 317 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: who you are in your wiring is probably going to 318 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: stay the same. But I don't think a lot of 319 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: us even know who we are until later in life, 320 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: and so we're just trying on these different versions of 321 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: ourselves to see kind of what feels right, and that's 322 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 3: the part that changes, I think, and if you don't 323 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 3: allow room for that change is when you get stuck. 324 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: But like a person like Dolly, for instance, Dolly is 325 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: Dolly Parton obviously, like she's always the same, She's you know, 326 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: amazingly epic, She's always going to have the big boob 327 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: she has. Her branding is like the same across the board. 328 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: But what I've seen her do and the reason I 329 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: think she's still relevant is because she evolves in her 330 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: process what she is doing, even like musically, Like think 331 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: about all the collaborations she's done this year. It's with 332 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: people like Miley Cyrus or she did a rock album. 333 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: You know, like she's constantly challenging herself and pushing the barriers, 334 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: but also paying attention to what society is doing like 335 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: social media or who's hip in a hot right now, 336 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: and she collaborates with them, you know, and so at 337 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: the end of. 338 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: The Carpenter Yeah, also just did that. 339 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: With Sabriena Carpenter. And it's like Madonna did a really 340 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: good job of this for a long time. Like all 341 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: of the artists that I think have maintained really long 342 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: term careers. 343 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Are really good at. 344 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: Evolving, rebranding themselves. Like even Beyonce. People love or hate Beyonce, 345 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 3: but like, think about that album she did when jay 346 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: Z cheated on her. That was a rebrand from this 347 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: like super sweet Beyonce pop artist that we had known forever. 348 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: She's throwing shit, She's like, who the fuck do you 349 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: think I am? 350 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: You know, like, yeah, we got to see the anger. 351 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: Exactly, and without that it becomes very uninteresting. If you 352 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: ask me, like to hear the. 353 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: Same album over and over. Yeah, but I think you break. 354 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: Like you bring up a really. 355 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: Essential point is the core values. If you look at Dolly, 356 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: like she approaches everything with kindness, She approaches everything with humor, right, 357 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 4: I mean, even like when you look at like the 358 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: musicals she's written and the movies that she starret in 359 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: like she has there. There's always like a very distinctly 360 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: Dolly thing. 361 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: I remember reading she owns. 362 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: Dollywood obviously in Pigeon Forge and severe Real wherever it is. 363 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: And her manager at the time when she bought it, 364 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: and she bought it for nothing, it. 365 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: Was like an old six flags. 366 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: I think that she was like it was falling into 367 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: you know, debt or disrepair or whatever. 368 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: I think it's like twenty million dollars, which is a 369 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: lot of money for Dolly. That's not a lot of money. 370 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: Yes, that's like. 371 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 4: Her manager and her thought about it because he thought 372 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 4: it was the dumbest thing that she'd ever done. And 373 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 4: her motivation for buying it was to give her family jobs. 374 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 375 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 4: And she fired her manager over the arguments because her 376 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 4: manager at the time could not see past the fact 377 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: that she had just spent twenty million dollars on the 378 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: theme park. The first year that she rebranded it and 379 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 4: had it opened, it made like thirty five million dollars the. 380 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: First year, right, and it's still strong. 381 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's going strong, and it's like it's probably 382 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 4: making a lot more than that. But like the fact 383 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 4: is is that her guiding principle was kindness. It wasn't 384 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: about money to her, like right, general family, like her 385 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: family grew up in the mountains and a lot of 386 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 4: them can't read, you know, like what do you do, right, 387 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: give the jobs that don't require that kind of stuff. 388 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: So it's also not just giving them money, which I 389 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 3: really like. Oh, it's not like a charity. It's like, hey, 390 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: here's an opportunity exactly, and let me create that I have. 391 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: I've been given this stuff. I have this gift, whatever 392 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: it is, and then being very generous with it, but 393 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: in a way that like also would give people their 394 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: own self esteem and their own sense of self worth 395 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: and discovery and all the things we're talking about. 396 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and on top of it, she like sprinkled her 397 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 4: Dolly fairy dust on it. 398 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: And it's this magical place that. 399 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: Like I love Dollar Waight. 400 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: So it's my favorite theme park in America. Like it's 401 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: I would go there every weekend if it was close enough. 402 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Fun. 403 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, the core value thing, really, I think is 404 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 4: an important thing to point out. 405 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: Right, That's a tricky one because I do think that's 406 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: really important. And then I also think I can just 407 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: just looking at my life as I think why I'm 408 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: saying this, I do think my core values have ultimately 409 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 3: always been the same. I'm not sure they've always been 410 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: as clear to me like as they are right now. 411 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: And so I think when I was younger, there were 412 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: moments where I was trying on different identities almost And 413 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 3: you and I have Pisce's moon, so that's very typical 414 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: of that if you guys want to get astrology on that. 415 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: But yeah, if you have any sort of Pisces in 416 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 3: your chart, you're kind of operating through life in like 417 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: a dreamlike state a lot of times in your younger life. 418 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: And we can also kind of meld into the environment 419 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: we're in. Like when I'm with certain friends, I'm laughing, 420 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: I'm joking on whatever. If I'm with other friends, we're 421 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: serious and we're like. I have a lot of diff 422 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: of range. I guess all of it is my personality, 423 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: but different things bring out different things in me. And 424 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people who don't have these 425 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: kind of parts of their chart their astrology chart are 426 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: a little more firm in who they are, and like 427 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: you and I both can kind of adapt in certain situations. 428 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean we don't know who we are. It 429 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 3: just means we're more adaptable. I guess that would be 430 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: the way to say it. So anyway, with that said, though, 431 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: it's taken me a little bit longer to truly discover 432 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 3: who I believe is my most authentic self. And I 433 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: do feel like I'm living that way now, but I 434 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: had to go through a lot of twist and turns, 435 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: a lot of like heartbreak. You know, it always comes 436 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: after struggle to me that I get more clarity, or 437 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 3: I get to the place of my more true self, 438 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: or I'm fighting for Okay, hey, that's not working like 439 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 3: what we're talking about, and I'm going to rebuild it 440 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: in this way. And I think that's all that rebranding is. 441 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 3: But I actually think what the disservice of our world 442 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 3: is is like that, to me, is a beautiful process, 443 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 3: and I think we need to praise that more. And 444 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: instead we put the labels on. You think you're stuck 445 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: in the labels, and then if you move from that, 446 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: it's like you're having a nervous breakdown or a mental 447 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 3: health crisis or an identity crisis or whatever, and it's 448 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 3: like that's actually not it. Like we're all here to 449 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: do this to rebrand, to restructure, to evolve. Think about 450 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: the guy in high school who is the quarterback who 451 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: never moves out of that persona and the whole rest 452 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: of their life is spent going God, the glory days 453 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: are like whatever. When you get to your yes and 454 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: when you get to your forties, you look at that 455 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 3: guy and you go, God, it's really kind of sad, 456 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 3: isn't it. He's never grown out of that person or 457 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 3: that version of himself, and it just doesn't it doesn't 458 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 3: look the same, Like it's just not cute, you know, 459 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 3: Like it's just not a good look anymore. So even 460 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: if you were that great thing in high school, even 461 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 3: that becomes tainted if you don't grow out of it. 462 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 463 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I mean it becomes it becomes like a 464 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 4: not a crutch, but like almost an anchor that you're dragging. Yeah, 465 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 4: it really is, like by not being able to let 466 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 4: go of it. He's not that I say he like we're. 467 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: Talking about specific It could be yeah, anybody. 468 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 4: But by by not letting go of it, you are 469 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: tying your energy to that versus opening yourself up for 470 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: new opportunities to come into your life. 471 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: Also making yourself be one note and like nobody is 472 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 3: one note. We're all super layered and complex, so you're 473 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: really doing yourself the biggest of service. 474 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 4: One I listened was listening to a podcast today in fact, 475 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 4: and I wanted to mention it. It was our girl 476 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 4: mel robbinscast Well. She was interviewing this woman named doctor 477 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 4: Julie Smith, and they were talking about the fact that 478 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: like life is a series of things of the unexpected, 479 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 4: Like yeah, and we can't control the unexpected. It's things 480 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 4: that happened to us, and it's life is so much 481 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 4: more beautiful when you were open to the unexpected than 482 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: being fearful of it, because when you're fearful of it 483 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: and you resist change, you end up stuck. Whereas if 484 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 4: something unexpected comes and you can evaluate it with an 485 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 4: open mind and an open heart, then you can take advantage. 486 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: Of what that is. 487 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 4: And they even gave examples of like I mean, doctor 488 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: Julie Smith found out that she had cancer and she 489 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: was like, you know, the moment you find out that 490 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 4: you have cancer, like you have a million questions flood 491 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 4: in your head. What's going to happen with your kids? 492 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: You know, what's going to happen with my clients. How 493 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: sick am I going to get? Like you don't get 494 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 4: all of those answers right away, so obviously you're flooded 495 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 4: with fear and questioned. But she also saw it as 496 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 4: an opportunity to look at her life and be like, 497 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: this cancer is not coming for me. I'm coming for it. 498 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: And she saw this unexpected thing that gave her this 499 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 4: like predator versus prey mentality, and she beat it, you know, 500 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 4: like and she's like, that's one example. There's always going 501 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 4: to be things that are being thrown our way that 502 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 4: are big or small, and sometimes the most unexpected thing 503 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: turns out to be one of the most beautiful life 504 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 4: lessons that you could ever have. Or it's meeting the 505 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 4: person at the coffee shop that you end up marrying, 506 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 4: you know, and having the bravery to be like, oh, 507 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: your shoes untied and that could be the one comment 508 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 4: that like connects you. And so you know that evolution 509 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 4: is like we don't have to think about it in 510 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 4: terms of like this big like oh I have to change, 511 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 4: like I need to grow and be super special. No, 512 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 4: it can be as simple as just being open to 513 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 4: the world, what the world is bringing you, And I 514 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 4: think it is with a positive Yeah, it's it really 515 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 4: is that simple and approaching that with openness and positivity 516 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 4: and those sorts of things, because I mean, I just 517 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 4: feel like the world teaches us lessons every day even today. 518 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: The fact that, like this is the topic that Kelly 519 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 4: hit me with after I just listened to that, like 520 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 4: that is. 521 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: The universe doing some weird ship. 522 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: Well. 523 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 3: Also, do you not feel like you are in the 524 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: process of a rebrand right now? 525 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: Like I mean a media with a butterfly you know. 526 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like immediately when I started thinking about this, I thought, 527 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 3: this is going to be really easy for Chip to 528 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 3: talk about because everything that you're doing in your life 529 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: in general feels like you're living that out right now. 530 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: And I mean, I do think it came from you 531 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: realize and finally getting honest with yourself that you weren't 532 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: happy with the way things were going in our life, 533 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: Like you weren't happy with how you were having relationships, 534 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 3: you weren't happy with how you felt and looked in 535 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: your body, like all of those things happened first. And 536 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 3: so yes, I do believe that it is about just 537 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 3: showing up and being open. But I also think it's 538 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 3: about allowing ourselves the space to just be honest, like, 539 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: which is way harder than you would think it is 540 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 3: to say to yourself like, yeah, I'm not happy, like 541 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: I'm not happy in this job anymore. And I've been 542 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: doing it. I've been doing it my whole adult life, 543 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: so the thought of leaving is you know, very scary 544 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: and also yeah, yes, but also if it's like, Okay, 545 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: if I suffer for ten more years, then I could retire, 546 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: And it's like those are the things for you to 547 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 3: weigh in your life of whether that's worth it or not. 548 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 549 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: I'm getting to this place of I really think the 550 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: universe is asking us to really get into alignment with 551 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: our soul, not just what we should do, you know, 552 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: like shoulting all over ourselves all the time, of like 553 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: I should be going to this, I should be working 554 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 3: this hard, like the world is changing and so I 555 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: think we can too, and really asking yourself like if 556 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 3: all the things that you're doing in your life are 557 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: truly what you want and are in alignment with who 558 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: you are now, like not who you were ten years ago, 559 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 3: but who you are now. 560 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 4: And I don't know or who like it's also I 561 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 4: mean it's funny because they talked about this on that 562 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 4: podcast too. It's like focusing on the past creates stress, Okay, 563 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 4: focusing on the future creates anxiety. 564 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be present. So it's so. 565 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: Much better to focus on the present because it's truly 566 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: the only thing that you have. Like, yeah, your past 567 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 4: is in your past. It's always going to follow you, 568 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 4: but it doesn't have to define you because you have 569 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 4: done things to evolve into this moment. 570 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm smiling so hard because if you knew how many 571 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: times Marv said that in relation to the astrology, like 572 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 3: you're very look at you just rebranding right into alignment 573 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: right now, You're like a psychic over there. 574 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: Well, I also wanted to read this. 575 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: This is something that she said, and I mean it's 576 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 4: Julie said that she put it on a post it 577 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 4: note for herself and would read it every day. I 578 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 4: think it's these are really powerful world words. Get busy 579 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: with life's purpose, toss aside empty hopes, get active in 580 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 4: your own rescue if you care for yourself at all, 581 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 4: and do it while you can, because a lot of 582 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 4: times we wait for that moment. You know, hers was finance, 583 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 4: she had breast cancer or whatever. We wait for that 584 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: moment where we're like, fuck, I've got to like take 585 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 4: care of myself, and it's oftentimes too late, you know. 586 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 4: So I love what you said, like we should have 587 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 4: all over ourselves, which is funny. 588 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 3: We should stop shutting all over our should I just 589 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: have a mentor I would say that that sounds like 590 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: a lot of shitting on yourself. 591 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: I love that. 592 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 4: But you know the thing is is, like we do, 593 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 4: we put that pressure on ourselves. So those false hopes, 594 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 4: those empty hopes, like I should be really rich, I 595 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 4: should own a g wagon, I should get to vacation 596 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 4: as much as everyone else. Like, you have to let 597 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 4: go of those false things because that's just a narrative 598 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: that you're telling yourself, right, trust me, if you really 599 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 4: wanted to be on vacation all the time, you could 600 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 4: figure out a way. 601 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: To do that. You know, you could be a digital 602 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 2: nomad and work from anywhere. 603 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 4: You just figure out the job that you need to 604 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: have to do that, Like it is, people are doing 605 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 4: it every day. 606 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not the path that I happen to choose. 607 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: But I also don't think that I need to be 608 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: on vacation every day. 609 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of the examples you just 610 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 3: gave to are the things where we start comparing our 611 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 3: lives to other peoples. And Marvin and I were talking about 612 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: this a little bit too, because even the labels of 613 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: good and bad, like you just said, being on vacation 614 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: all the time. But let's let's say the goal is 615 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 3: to be on a specific vacation because everyone that your 616 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 3: kid goes to school with is going to that certain place, 617 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: and that just means that your life is in line 618 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: if you can be on that same vacation. Like, that's 619 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 3: something I see a lot of and I used to 620 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: put that pressure on myself too, or like for a 621 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: lot of girls, the conversation I have is being married 622 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: by a certain age or having a kid by a 623 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: certain age, and you know, or like at all or 624 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: all these pressures that we feel. And for me, a 625 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: lot of that got dissolved whenever it wouldn't work it 626 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: didn't work out, you know, Like I had a broken 627 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: engagement when I turned thirty. Then I had fertility problems 628 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: and I couldn't even freeze my eggs, and then it 629 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, if I can't do these things, 630 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: How am I ever going to be successful? Like, the 631 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: truth is, it killed my self esteem because all of 632 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 3: a sudden, I just felt like I wasn't even a 633 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: full woman, if that makes sense, Like I couldn't do 634 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: the things I was supposed to be doing. But what 635 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: it brought me to was this path of really going 636 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: after or what my soul was here to do. And 637 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: that's when I got so into astrology. That's when I 638 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 3: got so into a lot of the spiritual practices that 639 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: I do now. I mean, I had been on a 640 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 3: healing journey anyway. I guess I hate using that word 641 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: now because one of those things we talked about last 642 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: week it's so overused, but I really had been like, sorry, 643 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: well you should set a boundary with me. Then if 644 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: you guys have no clue we're talking about, go listen 645 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: to last week's past. But yeah, I just like I mean, 646 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: when I got the broken engagement happened, I knew something 647 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 3: had to change in my relationship. So I started really 648 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: hardcore therapy and that was what I needed to do 649 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: at the time, and all of that helped me get 650 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 3: on this path that I'm on now, where it's really 651 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 3: about me knowing me and knowing what my soul is 652 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 3: here to do. And just because I couldn't do those 653 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: things like that I had labeled so bad that it 654 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: didn't work out, it actually ultimately ended up being the 655 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: best things in my life because they've drawn me into 656 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 3: this place where I know myself and am living in 657 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: a more authentic life for me than I think I 658 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 3: ever could have been had I not faced that stuff 659 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 3: or had that stuff worked out. 660 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: Like what if it had worked out, I. 661 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: Don't know, But we traveled back and forth to Charleston. 662 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be probably doing this podcast, oh you know. 663 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 3: And like my soul just had different plans for this 664 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: lifetime and that's okay. Like I think we need to 665 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: make a space for everyone to be on their own 666 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: journey that we haven't quite created yet, and that's what 667 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: I want to start. Like these conversations. I hope that 668 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: they start developing because of that, because no one should 669 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: feel bad because their life didn't work out a certain way, 670 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 3: or no one should feel stuck or that. 671 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 4: That doesn't look like someone else's life too exactly comparison 672 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 4: I think is it's part of the human existence. It's 673 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 4: a natural thing that we're going to do. But I 674 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 4: think you also, like when you when you're comparing yourself 675 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 4: to someone, you have to have a realistic comparison. Like 676 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 4: I'm never going to be one of the biggest, most 677 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: important people. 678 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: In the music business. 679 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that I can't be a great manager 680 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: and I can't make a great living doing what I'm doing. 681 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 4: But like my boss owns a company that has acquired 682 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 4: hundreds of other managers. He's like very invested in real estate. 683 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 4: I want to have a lot more fun in my life. 684 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: Than that, you know what I mean? Like his he 685 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: loves to work. 686 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: I can never compare myself to that, like that is 687 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 4: just not the journey that I'm going to be on. 688 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 4: But I can look at another manager and be like, 689 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 4: oh wow, they have three clients. They focus on that 690 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 4: only they have a great work life balance. I can 691 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 4: see myself in those shoes. And then that's where comparison 692 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 4: becomes really healthy, because it gives me a roadmap for 693 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 4: what I want. 694 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: To achieve that feels realistic me. 695 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: So, you know, I think it's dangerous to say and 696 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: don't compare, because there is healthy comparison, and it's also 697 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 4: a very natural thing to want to do, but you 698 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 4: just have to be realistic, Like well. 699 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 3: It's just that goes back to what I was just saying, 700 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 3: though everyone is truly on their own journe for a 701 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: certain reason. Like what I believe is that our souls 702 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: come to each lifetime wanting to learn certain lessons. So 703 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: you can't go to each lifetime as the same version 704 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 3: of a human and learn anything, Like you literally have 705 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: to be a different kind of person, Like I'm sure 706 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 3: we've both been I've been boys, and you know, like 707 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 3: I've been a mom, I've been a dad, I've been 708 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 3: a son, I've been a daughter, like all the different 709 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 3: versions in different places and in different life or like world, 710 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 3: like different religions, all the things. Like I do believe 711 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 3: that whether you believe that or not, but that is 712 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: what I believe. And so if you look at life 713 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: through that lens, then it's like everything that happens becomes 714 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: part of what is this here to teach me? And 715 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 3: how does this help me grow? And that sucks when 716 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 3: you're in it sometimes because the hardship you just are 717 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: like how did I deserve this? But if you think 718 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: about your like my soul chose this before I got here, 719 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: because it wanted the lessons around this nothing feels like 720 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 3: it couldn't produce some good. Like it doesn't have to 721 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: be bad, like we always say. I mean a lot 722 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 3: of things are and they're painful, and that's just the world. 723 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 3: That's just life. Life be life. And remember Blessing taught 724 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 3: us that. 725 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, But like he's. 726 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: The perfect example, my client Blessing offer. You know, he 727 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 3: lost his eyesight and he came to this world with 728 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 3: impaired vision, but he had a little bit of vision 729 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: and then lost it on a freak accident, and he 730 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: has somehow spun that into the most positive Is he 731 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 3: not the most positive you've ever met? 732 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: He's the embodiment of joy truly. 733 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's just like of all people who could 734 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 3: be bitter and resentful and all of the things, and 735 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: he's not. He literally takes it and he's like, but 736 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: I still have this gift of music and he's an 737 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: amazing musician, And like, he's taught me so much about 738 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 3: taking any sort of hardship you're faced with and trying 739 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 3: to find the positive to use it for good some where. 740 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: And this is a little. 741 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: Off the rebranding thing, but I think it ties together 742 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 3: in that when you're in the hardships of life, it 743 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: becomes like overwhelming or difficult, and the pain feels too 744 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 3: big to think about what it's here to teach you. 745 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: But if you try to change your mentality, once you 746 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: move through the emotions to what it is to teach you, 747 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 3: it can rebrand you into a better version of yourself 748 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 3: every time. 749 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 4: Right, I mean, look, a lot of people get really 750 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 4: stuck in the hardship this is life is unfair? Why 751 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 4: is this happening to me? 752 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm going to do? All those 753 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: questions that. 754 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 4: You might ask yourself, But if you can look at 755 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 4: it and be like, wait, why is this happening to me? 756 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: Right? 757 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: What am I going to do? 758 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 4: Like those are real questions. Find the answers to them. 759 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 4: Don't just sit there and ask the questions. Find the answers. 760 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 4: And that's where the rebrand happens. And granted, life does life, 761 00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 4: and some things work out in sadness, and I mean, 762 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 4: or are unfair. But or we die, we all die, 763 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 4: you know, and that is ultimately we're all going to 764 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 4: be faced with that mortality. And it's it's not something 765 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 4: that we can escape or change or evolve from. But 766 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 4: I believe in the soul journey too, and some souls 767 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 4: aren't meant to be here that long. They came for 768 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 4: a very specific purpose. They learned it, they're gone. They'll 769 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 4: be back. 770 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 2: Armed with more knowledge next time. 771 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 4: But I do think like instead of wallowing those questions, 772 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 4: find the answers to them, and that's where the rebrand happens. 773 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it just like we kind of digressed obviously, 774 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 3: but like the truth being, it's it's getting rid of labels. 775 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 3: It's like the good and the bad, like these are 776 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: the things that I'm learning. It's definitely not the way 777 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 3: I've lived my life always and because of it, I 778 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: think some of the things that I went through, I 779 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: struggled through them more then at this point maybe how 780 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 3: I would handle certain situations, because, like you said, I 781 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 3: got a little stuck in some stuff. And I think 782 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 3: that that's important to move through emotions. I mean, of 783 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: all people in your life, and you know, I'm going 784 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 3: to say, like you've got to feel the feelings. I 785 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 3: think that that is such an important process. But I 786 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 3: do think my mentality now of being like more curious 787 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 3: than like, oh my god, this thing happened, this loss 788 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 3: happened that fell apart, and labeling it as bad has 789 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 3: made me be like, Okay, why did that fall apart? 790 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 3: What's the universe trying to show me? There's obviously a 791 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 3: redirection happening, and a lot of times the losses in 792 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 3: my life have been necessary because I had just gotten 793 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: off the path that I'm supposed to be on, and 794 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 3: I could not have shown up in the way that 795 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 3: I'm able to show up on the right path on 796 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 3: those paths because they weren't for me. They just really weren't. 797 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 3: So anyway, I think the moral of all of this 798 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 3: story is to just like maybe get curious, and I 799 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 3: think right now is a very good time based on 800 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 3: the astrology specifically, but also just energetically, even if you 801 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 3: don't believe in any of that stuff and you're just 802 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 3: looking at the chaos of this world, it is happening, 803 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 3: Like there is change happening. We're never going to go 804 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 3: back to how we were. So if you're looking at 805 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: your life and thinking I don't like this, I'm unhappy 806 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 3: with this, or maybe just like taking a pause and 807 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 3: looking at your life and asking are you happy? And 808 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 3: overall like are things working? This seems like the good 809 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 3: time to do it, and if it's not, start to 810 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 3: look at how you could make changes. You don't have 811 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: to do it overnight, but like that would be the challenge, 812 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 3: I would say to the listeners and to me in youtub, 813 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: just like where in our lives do we feel like 814 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: maybe things are ready to shift or change or they're 815 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 3: not working the way they used to? So what would 816 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 3: be another option? I don't know that I said that 817 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 3: any of that really great, but do you guys get 818 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: the picture? 819 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: Stop being the backup dancer in your life? 820 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: Oh look at you? Was that Mel Robbins or. 821 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: No, that was your friend Chat. 822 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry, but I'm noticed seeing how much progressively 823 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 3: more tan. 824 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: I've gone your arm literally real wow that you all. 825 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 4: Have to go to you have to go to and 826 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 4: see her arm. 827 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,360 Speaker 3: I mean I should we should have done it like 828 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 3: a before and after. I mean just rewind now to 829 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 3: the beginning of this podcast. 830 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: A dead over the arm. 831 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 3: Anyway, I need to go shower. This off is what 832 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 3: I think the universe is telling. 833 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: Your man's not going to recognize you. 834 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna be like babe. 835 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 3: Anyway, Like Chip mentioned, we have been putting these podcasts 836 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 3: on YouTube, so I will put that in the description 837 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 3: of this podcast the link for that. If you guys 838 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 3: can go check that out and see my tan. You 839 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: can always email us at the Edge at velvetedge dot 840 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 3: com or hit me up on Instagram. 841 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm at Velvet's Edge, Chip, I'm. 842 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 2: At chip door, should ch I, P, D O R 843 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: S C H. 844 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 3: And as you guys go into the weekend and you're 845 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 3: living on the edge, I hope you always remember too a. 846 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: Casual well bob 847 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: By mm hm