WEBVTT - Peacemaker 204: Need I Say Door 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:02.960 Warning today's episode can you spoilers for peace Maker Season 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:22.160 two episode four. Hello, my name is jas Get Sepsion 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.320 and on Rosday Night and welcome back to xt Reviews 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:28.920 in the podcast where we dive dee to your favorite shows, movies, comics, 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:30.800 and pop culture comedy from my heart Ward breed you 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:33.920 three episodes a week, last news. 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:38.480 And today we will be welcoming back our peace make 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.920 a correspondent super producer, Ian thank you for joining us again. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:48.760 Ian Lease, don't be peace Maker. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:49.400 Let's do it. 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.479 Let's talk about this episode, because again I feel like 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.520 every episode this season is just getting boo. 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:56.320 It's been great, It's been great. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.000 Season has been phenomenal, it really has been. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.800 So. We open season two, episode four in the past 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.440 White Dragon and the boys. The boys are like, I 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.760 don't know, thirteen and fifteen or something, a little younger 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:16.040 and maybe a little younger. They're out hunting. White Dragon 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.360 spots something through the woods. He fires. They here screaming. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.320 They go over there. It's an alien. 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:23.640 Really. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:28.679 Chris tries to stop his dad from shooting the alien dead, 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.360 but dad does. It blows the alien's head off, and 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.280 when they walk further into the woods, they find the 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.160 portal bomb bomb bom. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.400 Nice to know, and obviously we'll talk about this more, 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:47.160 but this confirms all my thoughts about how Chris's dad 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:52.160 definitely never made that fucking pool. He definitely didn't invent nothing. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.560 But it was good to have the proof also put 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.000 out there. I thought that this alien had a very 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.920 similar look to Miss the Handsome, who was kind of 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:06.559 the chyn of Superman. Now now we know that James 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.799 Gunn said in his mind, Lex Luthor created Miss the 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.160 Handsome in the Petree dish. He was one of his 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.000 early experiments. But the shape of this face, the kind 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:19.320 of horselike nature of the face, it was very similar 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.120 to me. Also gross, really gross scene when he shut 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.280 him in the head like they were like evil. 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.520 Yeah, and it does look like a like a baby 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:29.519 mm hmm. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.360 It looked like a young age. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.400 Definitely feels like that will come back at some point 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:35.560 and by a. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.919 Young mister Handsome whose skin has seen the sun. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:40.799 Mm hmm. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:46.720 We go to the present in the Argus Van it's Economist, Flurry, Bordeaux, Judo, Master, 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:51.520 Red Saint, Wild Lineup, and a few random argist guys. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.040 They're on the way to get Chris and kill Eagerly. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:03:00.120 Economists snitches on Flurry for making like mocking faces as 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.840 well on the Bordo, which starts an argument in the van. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:09.160 It's very funny and while kind of like the distraction 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.639 from that is ongoing, Economist manages to fire off a 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.400 warning text to Chris, like, hey, Argus is coming, get 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.600 the fuck out of there. Chris is laying in bed 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:22.160 in his actual house, in his actual reality, not realizing 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.880 that Argus is like pulling up at that moment, he 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:28.760 notices the bullet holes in his ceiling and it is 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.760 like the house is a mess, Like what the fucks? 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.360 He finds elily rating the fridge to try and figure 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.960 out what's up. But then he gets the text, and 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.240 Chris realizes we got to get out of here. He 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.160 goes to like a closet. He pulls one of like 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:49.560 and it looks like an alien purse. It dark alien, 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:50.240 it's what. 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.760 Yes, and I'm guessing exactly need it to open right, 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:57.120 and he had it like. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.320 Buried in the closet. So he pulls out the alien 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:03.880 purse and lures Eagerly out of the house with lunch 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.760 meat and they go running to safety. Saint Wild. We 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.360 watched Saint wild To eat some eagle droppings, which gross. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:12.520 I didn't know they were crunchy. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.720 I know it would look like a chip. 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.640 I was gonna say they they'm They made him seem 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:23.080 like it was a delectable delicacy for him, and you 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.120 know what, the crunchiness wasn't expecting it. 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.159 The post credit scene for the episode, they like extend 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:31.320 that gag even longer. Yeah, where he's like describing everything 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:32.200 he's tasting in it. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:43.440 The Michael Rooker with like a ninety eight mile per 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.000 hour fastball performance in this episode. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:50.000 I also love that he This is an interesting canonical 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:55.680 thing too, because uh, he is in James Gunn's Suicide 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.960 Squad playing a different character. So this is a very 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:02.520 interesting I love that he doesn't mind kind of having 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:05.760 fun with his regulars. I would watch Michael Worker and anything, 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.200 so he's so funny. This is such a good weird 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:10.200 character for him. 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:15.440 So in the Woods, Judo Master finds Chris and they fight. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.279 At the same time, Saint Wilde is about to shoot 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:27.760 eaglely with his like uh like old timey western style, yeah, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:33.279 like like clever action like rifle Economists knocks him out 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.840 in order to save eaglely and then Chris manages to 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.080 take out Judo Master with some wrestling moves, picks up 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:43.520 the alien handbag, and they flee at home at a 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.039 Bio gets her the new issue of Pro Soldier magazine, 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.839 which has her ad for her private security companies. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:50.560 Is very terrible ad. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:52.960 She flips. She flips to the ad. 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:55.320 She's so stoked. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.520 Woman has never used canvra in her life, Like they 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:03.279 maybe proof that kanva doesn't exist in the in the DCA, 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:04.960 that's as James gun. 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.160 So she's so stoked. But in the middle of that, 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.240 she gets a text from Chris asking for out Fleury 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:15.240 and Bardoux finds the door covering the portal and the 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:19.960 security pad next to it. Meanwhile, Economists is like trying 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:23.000 to convince Saint wild that, like, actually, so what would 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.160 happened was while you were shooting at that eagle about 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.960 to shoot at that eagle, a second eagle protecting it 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.200 came and knocked you out. And Saint Wil's like, do 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.760 you realize what this means? Eagles are solitary creatures. This 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.600 can only mean that the primal eagle has a beer. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.720 This is the mother of all eagles. I've been waiting 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.600 my tarre life. Everything I've done is led up to 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.960 this ball. But where I'm gonna take out the problem Eagle. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.680 I love when economos is like, I love what economists 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.760 is like, it can't mean anything else, Like, yeah, that. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.440 Has to be that because it's like, definitely wasn't me. 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:03.480 Definitely wasn't me. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.920 I am having a lot of fun with how they 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:12.600 have basically filled August with like the silliest people. And 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.960 that's the only way that that John Economists can get 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:17.560 one over on them is they have to all be 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:23.000 the most insane characters possible. Like for me, the Tim 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:27.160 Meadows as flurry has just like elevated this to such 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.280 a high level, Like I love his style of comedy, 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.440 I love the absurdist, and I love how also like 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.440 you've really have no idea what he wants, like does 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.800 he just want to be really cool to see? 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:41.760 Does he want to be seen as a cool boss? 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:43.160 Is that why he's always making. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.520 Up names for people? Like right, there's just there's there's 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.920 a lot of levels to it, and I just think 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:51.520 Tim Meadows is knocking it out the park. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.440 To your point about August being staffed with like the 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:59.880 most clownish like inconfidence. It's crazy. I mean, I get it, 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:07.080 Rick Senior's heartbroken, right, but it's interesting that his other 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.160 takeaway from the files isn't like how the fuck did 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.560 they succeed? Like how did this? How did we successfully 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:14.600 complete that mission? 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:15.400 Exactly? 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:20.480 And also like, wait a minute, I should probably like 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:24.040 talk to Amanda Waller about this and see if the. 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.480 Story is definitely don't talk to her because we don't 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.320 have her lockdown under contract yet. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.880 We hope your hair ready to step into the shoes 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:37.400 of Viola Davis. 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:39.480 Winning act though. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.280 We don't have that. Don't call her until we have 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:43.480 that contract locked out. 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:45.240 But nothing more. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.400 Yes, all right, let's take a break over your event. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:03.680 Error back. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.280 So Adebio picks up Chris and Eaglely at the Silo Road. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.160 Chris is like, we got to move the portal. How 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.800 that's gonna happen? We don't know yet. They head towards 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.840 Settler Hills. As Chris calls Vig at the house Bordeaux 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:22.200 is just like reaming out Economists for clearly still having 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.760 a soft spot for his friend Chris and for Chris's 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:34.240 pet Eagle Eaglely Economists spits on four flurry call for 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:40.719 once again calling him both ginger cool and GC. I 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.400 like it when he calls him G cool, Yeah, G cool. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:49.079 Gee GC. There's so many ginger cool. Also, I kind 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.640 of love like Fleury's response to this. He's just like again, 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:55.600 just like continues to be the silliest character in the show. 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.480 True of him, he's a purely as we said last week, 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.319 he's a purely sitcomcact, which is the level. 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:02.400 It's an agent of chaos. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:06.800 True portal is then like listen, open the portal, now, 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:12.199 stop stalling or that's it. Economists calls. He goes, He's like, 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.959 I need some tools from my van, and she's like, well, 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.040 where's the van and it's like it's really far, the 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.520 van outside twenty meters away. He's like it's thirty meters okay. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.920 He goes out there, he gets his tools, but while 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.360 he's getting his tools, he calls Chris and Chris is like, 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:34.640 you gotta stall them by any means necessary, and he's like, okay, 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:38.319 I'll try. Meanwhile, Chris tells at a bio about just 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.800 the portal, about how there's like a perfect world in there. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:44.160 His whole family is in there, his brother whose death 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.040 was the worst thing that ever happened to him is 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:50.240 in there. He can't simply abandon the portal. Back at 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:54.680 the house, you know, Economists is just like absolutely dragging 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.560 his feet, but like eventually he's got to open the thing. 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.840 Yeah, he can only pretend to be like he doesn't 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:01.480 know he's doing for so long and so. 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.480 But as that's happening, Chris uses the alien pocketbook to 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.880 set up a new portal entrance in this like little 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.760 broken out cabin they found, and he manages to do 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.760 it just in time. It releases tremendous energy when he 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.280 does it, I'm surprised that like back at Argust headquarters, 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.079 like the dials aren't pinned into the red Like what 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.720 the fuck was that? Yeah, And so back at the house, 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.800 when Bordeaux and crew open the door, they find just 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:29.000 a closet. There's nothing there. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.880 It's so good. They are so fucking pissed off. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:37.319 It's such a good, easy kind of the heroes make 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.880 it look easy, and it makes the August people look 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.439 really stupid by trying so hard to get and like 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:44.800 it's such a good reveal. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:49.000 So Bordeaux calls Senior and basically tells him so it's 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.920 just a closet. We didn't find anything like there's he's 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:53.920 just got a closet buying a security keepout. I don't know. 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.960 Rick is like, Okay, I'm going to talk to Harcourt. 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:03.559 Harcourt is doing like independent amateur fight club stuff in 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:08.000 the back of just like random bars, clearly really really 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:08.679 going through it. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.320 Experience sabotage a high level. 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:16.040 Yeah, experiencing like a mini kind of existential death from 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.959 the loss of her career as an intelligence agent and 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:25.640 this just like not doing well. So Senior goes to 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.360 Sere and it is tense. He can tell like that 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.720 she's hanging on by a thread and that she's been 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.439 selling her TV. She sold her TV and all this 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.240 kind of stuff, which was I thought a really nice 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.680 storytelling moment when they just like linger on the TV 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.600 that's no longer there. He's like, hey, do you remember 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.400 what you said to me at Guenior's funeral And she's like, yeah, 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:50.360 I told you that Peacemaker killed your son because Waller 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:53.720 ordered him Tom And she's like, yeah, that's right, that's 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:58.640 what you told me. And you know, but I've also 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.520 read the files and you should know that you are 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.959 black booked. You've been black booked by Waller and hard 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.000 Quarter is like, yeah, no fucking shit, like obviously, and 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.079 he's like, but I have a way out. You bring 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.160 Chris in and then I will take you out of 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.080 the black book and you will get a job again. 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:21.640 We go to Chris and Ad Chris tell's ad that sadly, 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:26.200 pro Soldier Magazine is a scam. They don't the magazine 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:31.000 does not go out for distribution. It exists only to 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.760 sell advertising, like to idiots, and to scam the money. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:41.360 Sorry about that. Ad then asks, hey, are there alternate 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.560 use in the portals? And Chris is like yes, and sadly, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:49.640 I killed him. Let's not get deeply into it, but 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.720 I did murder him. Uh, and now it was self 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.679 defensed which is kind of true, which is true, but 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.920 also like you were trespassing in his home, so who 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:07.040 was defending in a different wall. And then Chris admits 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:11.199 that furthermore, I am catfishing that universe is Hardcourt, who 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:17.400 I think really likes me. Yeah, because he doesn't, I 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.520 gotta close that loop. And Adabaio is like, listen, you 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:24.320 have to just like leave everything in that world in 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.880 that world, and yeah, you know, we didn't understand nothing 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:28.240 about We understand he's. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:28.560 Not going to do that. 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.280 Vigilante shows up with a with some doors and hinges 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.200 that they're going to try to see if they fit 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.400 over the new portal. To cover it up and hide it, 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.920 Harcourt texts Chris to lure him to the arrest spot. 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.920 Chris answers grease to me. Senior confiscates Economist's phone, like 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:49.920 we don'trust you anymore, hard Gourt It basically sets up 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.920 the ambush with Senior. We go to the woods where 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:58.520 we see, in an incredible button scene, Saint Wilde is dancing. 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.520 He's naked, he's fully dude. He makes an eagle in 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.440 the dirt. He fills the dirt with his own blood, 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:09.720 and he does some magic incantations and the fire turns 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:14.600 blue and his magic shockingly does work, and he manages 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.640 to locate eagerly flying over Chris's new hideout. Meanwhile, Judo 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:25.160 Master emerges outside the cabin, ready for revenge. All right, 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:42.800 seek a quick break and then let's discuss this, and 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:47.280 we're back. Fun episode, although kind of a connector episode 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:52.520 of huge stuff. We're certainly heading towards a big confrontation. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.000 But what did everybody think? Ian? 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.080 Yeah, I like the episode a lot, and like you said, 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:00.920 like not a huge amount of story momentum. There's a 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.080 little bit, but it was more about you know, character moments, 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.640 and it felt like a build up to the big confrontation. 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:10.240 But one thing that I really think has been an 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.600 overarching theme of the season that this episode kind of 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:16.400 continued as you know, these tests of loyalties and temptation 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.640 for all these characters. You know, you have economists trying 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.720 to weigh you know, his loyalty to Argust and to 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.080 his friends. He's playing both sides, and I think eventually 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.120 it's there's going to be a breaking point where it's 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:29.760 going to bite him in the as I think we're 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.600 building to that. Chris, obviously, the temptation of the other 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:37.680 universe is just pulling him further and further in, even 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:40.280 though he knows it's not great and it's getting messier 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.880 and messier. He has to move the portal. Everybody's like, 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.120 what are you doing? He killed his alternateself, but he 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:49.000 just can't quite let go of it. Harcourt getting guilt 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:53.000 tripped super hard by Senior because like clearly he knows, 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.160 you know, she had a relationship with his son. He 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.000 knows that she feels bad about his death, but she 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.000 also wants to get you know, back in the good 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.119 grace of the US government. She's broke, she's desperate. He 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.800 knows how much this job meant to her, so he's 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.480 leveraging that to get her to do what he wants, 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:11.680 you know, So she has to turn on her friends. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.280 So I think, yeah, James Gunn has really been playing 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.560 with that idea of this test of loyalty and the 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:18.880 temptation of these things like how far are these people 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.280 willing to go to get what they want or conversely, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.520 how far are they willing to go to protect their friends? 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:24.240 You know. 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.760 So I think that's been a great dynamic so far 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:27.480 throughout the season. 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.679 Rosie, Yeah, I think you're right. 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:32.480 I think you picked up on the things that make 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:38.360 this really work. I also think that this is clearly 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:43.159 going to be the main thematic question of this season, 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:47.000 which is going to be loyalty to your friends versus 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:48.159 whatever the. 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:51.000 Other is offering, whether it's a job or a world. 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.280 I think it's pretty clear right now. Ian, We've seen 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.000 so many people pick up on that theory. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.760 That you pitch like everyone is kind of beginning to 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.240 notice that, and I think that the big question for 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.000 Chris is going to be he's clearly going to take 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.520 at a bio to that universe and then it's going 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.160 to be bad and he's going to have to pick 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:16.360 her over this so called perfect universe. So I think 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:21.160 all of this is building towards a big, shocking finale. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.760 And I also I liked that it confirmed that Orgie 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.199 didn't build shit, because that was one of my biggest 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:31.400 issues in the first season was this notion that like, well, 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.920 he is the White Dragon and he is a KKK supervillain, 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.879 but also he was an incredibly intelligent genius, which is 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.640 very much like you know how like people spoke about 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.720 the Nazis who came over and after World War Two, 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:49.080 Like I didn't love what that was giving thematically, but 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.920 I really love here that we have this kind of 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:59.200 clear let's say, it's a stepping stone to the truth 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.920 about where these things come from. And I think it's 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.720 really great that they acknowledging the fact that no, he 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:09.200 would have just stolen it, just like there'll steal something else. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.160 Yes, So we learn about the origin of the qu see, 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.840 which again to Rosie's point, like confirm Augie's regneck ask 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:20.879 didn't build any of that shit. But at a bio 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.960 asks Chris about the helmets, well what about the helmets? 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.280 Didn't your dad make those? And he says, like, uh, 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.800 it's kind of complicated. He doesn't really answer the question. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.320 So clearly he didn't make those either. But my question 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:35.919 is so clearly all this technology is is alien technology, 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.200 as we find out in that opening scene. But to me, 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:41.199 I kind of read that scene as like that alien 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.440 was maybe like on the run or trying to tide 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:46.200 or like get away into something. What do you guys 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.760 think the alien was like running from or trying to 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.560 hide from. Do you think that might factor in later 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.320 into the season that I would. 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:58.960 Question, I'd say yes, I yeah, I think that there 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:02.359 will probably be something. I wouldn't be surprised if whatever 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.280 it is is the thing that connects this to the 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:09.119 larger dceu Ye could agree, and so we don't get 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:13.960 a hard answer in this series about it, but that 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.920 it's generally something that leads to something else. I wonder 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:23.440 if there's like a peacemaker zero, who invent who did invent? 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:27.119 All the stuff? Interesting and who is connected by the 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:31.600 portals And if you know, Augy didn't just like steal 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.280 all the shit from this guy from whoever We're like 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.520 a white Dragon zero and they just stole all there 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:42.000 because like Peacemaker from the Perfect Universe had all his 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.399 equipment just like outside in the lobby. 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:45.840 Yeah yeah, yeah, so. 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.760 Like you could just go go get one and then 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:52.400 bring it back like that could possibly be where Chris 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:53.120 got it from. 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.879 Yeah, And I feel like that other al tech was 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.159 like a little bit nicer than the stuff Chris like 0:20:58.240 --> 0:20:59.880 our christis too, because I had a jet. 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.240 And also, like this, the helmet looks cooler. 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.280 It has less of the crazy like toilet seat vibe 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.879 that Chris is always getting mocked about. So I'm very 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:17.280 interested because in the comics, basically the Peacemaker's dad is 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.160 a Nazi. They reimagined him here, but his dad's a Nazi. 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:22.840 That's part of why he's so obsessed with kind of 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.000 making sure that there is peace, and he'll do anything 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:28.560 for peace is to kind of make up for that. 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:31.359 Something that's really interesting that they haven't played into that 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.960 I think could be an intriguing note here is in 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:38.159 the comics he actually believes that all the helmets are 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:42.000 like haunted, and he's constantly getting a commentary from people 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:46.440 that his dad killed in the helmet ghosts and spirits 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:49.120 and stuff. So I'm interested to see if the ending 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.360 of this is gonna be like instead of that he's 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:56.400 gonna end up with his perfect world dad and brother 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:58.240 in his head because he's gonna kill them and they're 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.280 gonna haunt the helmet or something. I think that I 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.160 don't think it's gonna be as easy a get out 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:07.760 as it should be because James Gunn always likes to 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:11.840 complicate stuff, and I definitely think that aliens are behind 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.520 the because they have the different helmets in this like 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:16.280 they do in the comics, where you can have an 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.440 X ray vision helmet, you can have a helmet that 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:19.240 makes you immortal. 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:24.520 I'm guessing that that is also alien technology, do we. 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:29.640 I was left wondering, like, have we burned Harcourt as 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:33.680 a character now, Like, how do you actually come back 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:38.080 from this exactly? I'm diming in diming out Chris. It 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:43.840 kind of feels like a very big fork in the 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.520 road moment for this character. We saw like sure obviously 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:51.240 struggling with her circumstances, but then like really bonding with 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.879 the like rediscovering how much fun she did have with 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:58.600 the group during that party, and so for her to 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:03.080 like really with very little hesitation, like it there was 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:08.399 a moment's hesitation set up chrispher ambush, like unless she 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:12.240 does something to counteract it. I kind of wonder where 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:14.040 we go with her character from here. 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:14.920 Mm hmm. 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:19.159 I'm hoping, well, I'm thinking, you know, once the meetup 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.720