WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Building The Offensive Line 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:05.040 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.719 and ahead, he got jacked. This is the Big Red 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:14.200 Rain presented by Santanford in Gilbert. Mary's gonna score touchdown 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.320 Slam to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:22.960 He came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:27.760 to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:31.520 State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:37.239 State Farm, And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit acy Cardinals 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:46.080 dot Com, Slash Podcasts, The Red Scenes, rising ar temperaturizing vision, flurring, 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:50.479 rage taking over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready. I'm one 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.160 hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee, 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.880 it doesn't get any better than that horn unleash the far. 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:05.760 We all have questions. The entire league wants to know 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.960 Wolf They demand answers, and we're starting to get them slowly, 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:14.440 but Sureley. Derek Card to the Saints, Geno Smith staying 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:20.840 with the Seahawks, Aaron Rodgers to the Jets, d Hop 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:26.560 Traded imminent, Zach Allen Byron Murphy about Kelvin Beach and 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.040 Will Hernandez. What is their future as the key marquee 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.640 Cardinals free agents? These answers are starting. We even just 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.320 got the answer on the compis for the Arizona Cardinals 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.280 in the twenty twenty three drafts. So all that combined 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.640 with everything we saw at the combine and what's been 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:43.480 going on in fact, wolf if you don't bring it 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.440 in this addition to the big Red Rage presented by 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.720 santan Ford and Gilbert, we are santan Ford and momentarily 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.000 it'll star Lorenzo Alexander, former Cardinal. If you don't bring 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.560 it in this addition, Ron Wolfley, I'm just gonna start 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:59.000 reading the combined results from Anthony Richardson because I think 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.480 those are entertaining. When the guy has bigger hands than 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:07.960 DeAndre Hopkins. Yes, yes, that is incredible, right there, Paula. Honestly, 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:12.639 Anthony Richardson, this is a guy. It's it's combine, it's 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.760 combine time, and this is a guy that I think 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.359 is going to benefit greatly from the combine. I've heard 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.040 some cuts on him that are just laugh out loud 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.919 funny right now, Scouts talking about him, coaches talking about 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:30.160 Anthony Richardson, so many of them saying, this guy, his traits, 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.840 his traits, his traits are incredible. But then you watch 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.920 the film and you wonder, you know, and that's the 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:41.080 combine and that is the conundrum. Hey, rich eisenshow earlier 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.640 this week quoted a rumor that Eisen the chair of 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.040 all the combine coverage in NFL network, where he says 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:50.040 he's here in scouts saying and personal guys saying they 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:54.480 wouldn't be surprised if Anthony Richardson goes number one overall. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.639 And you know what, that's good for business if you're 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:01.880 the Arizona Cardinals, because our marketing mantra is AZ needs three. 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.760 You need three quarterbacks up top, Bryce Young, CJ. Stroute, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.280 hopefully Anthony Richardson. And then the Cardinals have a choice. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.639 Do they take oh maybe a Will Anderson who would 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.399 still be on the board, or they trade out. We'll 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.600 get into all that right now. Let's talk about where 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:17.560 the Cardinals are as of this week. As of the 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.240 last couple of days, as Jonathan again and the brand 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:24.160 new head coach, was introducing his brand new assistance, and 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.400 we do mean brand new. A lot of new names 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.520 and faces and a lot of college experience mixed with 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.000 some NFL experience on this staff. And here's the head 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.240 coach on the makeup of his staff. I felt really 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.480 good about the experience in this room. Guys that have 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.480 done their job at a very high level, Guys that 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.440 were there is no doubt in my mind after talking 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.320 to him for however long I talked to him that 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:49.400 they were ready to take the next step. And that's 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:51.760 kind of you know, how I made decisions with the 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.880 staff as I was looking for the right coaches and 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:58.760 the fit of that altogether. Who are the best coaches 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.400 for the Cardinals? And that's what we did. If a 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.960 team takes on the identity of its head coach, I 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.360 tell you what, this staff takes on the personality of 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.720 Jonathan Gannon. A lot of energy in that room and 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.920 a lot of youth twelve coaches under the age of 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:16.800 forty Ron Wolfleywood. What do you make all that? You know, 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.960 it's amazing, Bully. It really is a lot of young 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.800 coaches right now getting the opportunity to come into the 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.320 National Football League, stay in the National Football League, of course, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:31.200 and develop. And to me, it's very, very exciting. The 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.560 reason why I say that Polly is because the head 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.480 coach is really important. There's no doubt about it. The 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.680 head coach to a young player has a huge impact 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.880 on him as a pro. But in terms of being 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.680 a better player, your position coach has a bigger impact 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:50.440 on you than an offensive coordinator, a defensive coordinator, and 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:54.239 a head coach most of the time, generally speaking, Polly, 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.800 that position coach is going to be so vital in 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.159 the development of a younger player. And that's what I 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.880 can't wait to see here these position coaches, of course, 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.440 that he has assembled, and the impact they're going to 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.000 have on this team. And I would imagine, Paulie, I 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:13.040 don't know about you, but I would imagine this team 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.880 is probably going to get younger over the next couple 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.960 of seasons, absolutely, and you know what, this staff will 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.360 reflect that. And this staff shouldn't have any problem relating 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.080 to those younger players because it is the younger staff. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.440 But they have the benefit of being very experienced at 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.760 the college level, a lot of them. And here's Jonathan 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.760 g In and talking about that. I think that the 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.880 expertise that some college guys have is they've lived in 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.600 that world of how to exploit a defense or how 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:44.800 to defend certain quarterbacks with certain skill sets like that. 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.120 So there's a reason why pro coaches every spring have 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.599 college staffs come in and they clinic them teach us this, 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:55.800 so you know, and that goes on pretty regularly. So 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.520 very happy how this staff came together with the different 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.880 types of expertise that we brought in. Isn't that interesting? 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.600 Only recently have I come to realize the extent at 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.719 which high school football can impact college, and then the 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.240 college game and schemes can impact the NFL. It sort 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.880 of trickles up in a way. Yeah, PAULI very interesting 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.840 cut right there from Jonathan Gannon because I agree with 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.840 what he've said. But I will tell you right now 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.159 that I think over the last couple of seasons, we've 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.240 seen that pendulum swing about as far right to the 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:32.279 new age, the new offense, the new wage offense, and 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.279 the college offense, and I think it's swinging back more 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.039 towards the middle right now. Polly, this is something I've 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.640 talked to you about. I think there are people that 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.520 are starting to believe that you have to blend the 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.680 old and the new together. It's it's something I've been 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.880 talking about for three years. I think it's what the 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.760 Arizona Cardinals have got to do. It's one of the 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.599 reasons why Jonathan Gannon came here and said we got 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:01.279 to take Kyler Murray and put them more center. That's 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:05.080 where this offense can evolve the most. And I agree 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.040 with him one hundred percent. So I think that pendulum 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.920 is coming back just a little bit. What's interesting is 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.280 you talk to a lot of these position coaches. In 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.200 some coaches, you know, there's some nons. They have guys 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.760 in the room. Other coaches. If you're the offensive line coach, 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.800 I mean, think about who's under contract. DJ Humphrey's, Josh Jones, 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.239 and then the two rookies from a year ago. Listen 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.480 to Smith MARKI says, that's it. You know, you look 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:31.560 at for example, Patrick Tony, the DB's coach. Okay, he's 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.200 got his two stalwart safeties there in Buddha Baker and 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.880 Jalen Thompson, and then you have a Marco Wilson. But 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.960 there's a lot to be determined for then that defensive backfield. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.840 So the question of Patrick Tony, the new DBS coach 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.440 and last year was co defensive coordinator at Florida, what 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.040 exactly the coach is doing right now. I think we're 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.840 all catching up on the current personnel on our team. Obviously, 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.400 you gotta know your roster first, doing a good job 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:57.040 watching the personnel around a league, you know everyone, you know, 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.920 I want to see what everyone's doing in the league, 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.160 studying college prospects to prepare for the draft. And then 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.680 as well as as a defensive staff getting together and 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.640 you know, coming together collaborating on how we're gonna put 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.200 this thing together with coach Rollis, coach Gannon, you know. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.320 So it's been a lot of fun. And remember, as 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.520 a new staff, you get extra time in the off season, 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.720 So when April gets going, you're going to be out 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:20.880 on that grass. You're gonna have extra time to work 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.000 with some of the players you free agent acquisitions. And 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:25.960 I know, Wolf, I mean, what comes to mind you 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.680 think is most critical for this new staff to instill 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.760 once they actually get the players in the building. Yeah, 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.280 that is a great That is a great question, PAULI 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.440 right now, And once again I think Nick Rawlis of 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:43.080 course and Drew pet Sing, the two coordinators are really 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.160 going to have an awful lot to do with setting 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.199 the tone as to what kind of schemes you want 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.640 to run, what kind of schemes you project players actually 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:55.520 fitting into and excelling in, what kind of schemes, and 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.760 what kind of player that you're looking for. I think 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.040 they're going to set the tone going forward here. And 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.559 even though the position coaches can have a bigger impact 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.280 on a guy's career, these coordinators right now are going 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.280 to have to find guys that fit into their scheme 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:16.360 or take that scheme and blend it with the talent 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.480 that you actually have on the roster right now. But 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:25.160 the next couple of weeks will be huge in the 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.840 type of players, of course, that you're going to identify. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.360 And they've already done this, Paul. They've sat around the 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.199 big rectangle. They know what kind of free agent they're 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.040 going to look for and go after and try to 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.520 actually sign. And when it comes to the draft, a 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.480 lot of these coaches come from the college game, and 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:41.640 so the personnel guys will go over to the college 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.080 coaches heyd you match up against player X at any 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.000 point in the last two or three years, and so 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.560 they can give benefit there. And then if I'm a 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.040 defensive coach, this is just me thinking out loud, I'm 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:54.240 spending time watching the Rams offense and the forty nine 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:58.160 ers offense getting no Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan, and 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.199 then Gino Smith is back in Seattle. So I'm guessing 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.880 you've got to familiarize yourself if you're new to the 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.360 team with the division, right, especially if you're a defensive coach, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.560 these offenses come in your way. But the biggest thing, though, Pauline, 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:15.400 you already touched on this is actually these position coaches 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.680 getting to know their guys, the guys that are coming back. 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.800 I think of Clayton Adams, the new offensive line coach. 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.840 You mentioned DJ Humphreys and Josh Jones. You mentioned that 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.160 this is going to be an overhaul on that offensive 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.360 line right now. Boy, that is going to be a 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.640 good thing for Clayton Adams to go out and get 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.079 the type of individual he wants for that offensive line, 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.720 the offensive line he envisions along with Drew Petzing and 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.280 jg Hey. We mentioned the compics. It's official. Cardinals get 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.679 a third round pick for Christian Kirk. They get a 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.040 fifth rounder her Chandler Jones, and a sixth rounder for 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.800 the departure at Chase Edmonds. Lorenzo Alexandra's next on the 0:10:55.840 --> 0:11:05.599 big red rage shotgunset for Matt Ryan Hazard drops the 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.600 pass looks deep. Instead, he is sacked and he goes 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:12.000 down to the twenty five yard line and Alexander there 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:16.160 for Arizona. Raford takes throws to the right, patted down incomplete. 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.560 Lorenzo Alexander got a pawn. It knocked it down and 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.920 it was knocked down. Lorenzo Alexander doing a good job 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.640 being alert. That was a smart play by Alexander. Prussia 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:31.080 in the pocket and Grady goes down. Lorenzo Alexander took 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.520 a sweep at the ball and then came down to 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:37.680 the second sack of the night. You know, Wolf, if 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:41.760 only we could talk to a guy who could hit 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.120 on all the headlines, you know what I mean, a 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.160 former Cardinal who's been there and done that. You know, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:50.640 he's played for a first year head coach. He's it 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.000 was all about getting pressure on the quarterback. He's gone 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.199 to a Pro Bowl with twelve and a half sacks. 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.520 You know, it's the Cardinal's biggest need. He's been through 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.880 free agency in the draft process, right, I mean, was 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.840 was even teammates with Aaron Rodgers once upon a time 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.719 and you know it might have an opinion or two 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.600 on accountability. You know, the big buzzword this offseason, who 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:15.319 might Lorenzo Alexander might be the guy who joins us 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.040 now in the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.480 and Gilbert we are, satan Ford, Zoe, what's going on? 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.079 I'm doing a good man. I thank you for having 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.800 me on and uh always happy to talk about with 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.120 you guys. Zo, you also got paid, did you not? 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.240 You got paid, didn't you? Yeah? I got paid a 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.200 couple of times. Not a true special teamer, though they 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:41.160 didn't pay you like they should have. It's all relatively speaking, 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.160 you know. I you know, I had a great career, 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:48.720 blessed multiple times. So no regretsive mine at all. It's 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.040 why he's coaching. It's why he's coaching use sports right 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.120 now by design his own kids, Wolf, you know, it 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.200 gives him that luxury to do it right exactly. It's 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.240 all right. So tell us about the whole dynamic of 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.440 plane for a first year head coach. Let's start with 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.800 that Once upon a time twenty thirteen. You came in 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.320 with Bruce arians Cardinals are starting to do with Jonathan Gannon. 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.280 You know, what do you think maybe his biggest challenges 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.680 or what's most critical for Gannon? Let me take it 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.559 a step further, PAULI, I probably placed for four first 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.800 time you know head coaches or first or new head coaches. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.240 You know about Jim Zorn, I had games on when 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.199 I was in Washington. Obviously my chan hand had done 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.800 it in a long time and and Invert, but he 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.000 was the first time head coach as far as Washington 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.920 I had to do deal with obviously be A being 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.040 the first time head coach, and then Sei McDermot, so 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.600 actually three first time head coaches and had to go 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.280 through the process for a different times. So I'm definitely 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:45.040 willing in depth as far as the process and what 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.120 that looks like and the biggest thing from a player's perspective, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:49.760 it all depends, you know, if you're a young guy, 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.960 you know, a bubble guy, you just your head. Damn, 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.400 he's trying to make an impression as far as what 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.640 you need to do as far as to make the 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.920 football team. You know, you can care about all the 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.559 politics and what the scheme is. You just trying to 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:03.600 look out for yours and make sure that you have 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:05.320 a spot at the end of the day when camp 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.160 is over. But as you get older, as you begin 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.240 to grow in his league and right, and you create 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.719 some type of stability. Right and understands this. You know, 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.280 your special team or a low draft guy, you never 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.480 really quite get comfortable. But obviously some guys are more 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:22.960 comfortable than others. UM, And you're really looking at the 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.040 consistency of the head coach. Right, he talks about UM 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:30.760 culture people, UM thing he's going to implement, and so 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.360 how does that look like? You know, from top down? 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.480 He holding the best parent team to say what he's 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:41.960 hold the bubble guys accountable. Right, There is a continuity 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.840 there and we all know that player tree is slightly 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.640 but at the core, if everybody held to the same 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:51.920 UH standard, Um, how does how is he able to 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.200 UM impact the room when he walks in there and 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.040 gives a speech right or lays down his standard? Are 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.400 people locked in or people taking I'm serious? Or people 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:04.600 understanding what he's communicating? Right? Because there's a big, big 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.480 gap between you having a vision h you having certain 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.840 principles that you want to implement, and being then able 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:15.360 to communicate those well so that players receive it. And 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.480 adopt it for their own, you know, well being so 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.280 that they can kind of embody who you are and 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.200 reflect who you are as a head coach, and those 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.720 are partly the top two things that you look for initially. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.240 And then as a player, you know, how does he 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:34.200 handle adversity, what happens because coaches always say, hey, become 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.160 you know, you know, never too high, ever too low. 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.160 But when their feet are held to the fire, when 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.080 they make a mistake, how do they respond themselves and 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.720 actually embodies the message that they've been giving off? So um, 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.400 I think that's kind of the maybe the top three things. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.320 And there's obviously a ton of other things that you 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:51.920 can look at as well, but those are the things 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.240 that I tend to gravitate it too. I want to 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:59.160 those different transitions from myself, so so Jonathan Gannon of 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.880 course the other his coaching stuff right now. And I 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.400 know that it's different with each player. But from your experience, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.360 did a head coach have a bigger impact on your 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.800 career or did a position coach have a bigger impact 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:18.360 on your career? Wow? I would say when I was younger, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.080 it was definitely a position coach because that's who I 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:24.120 spent the most time with Yep, that's who impacted me 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.240 every day, Right, That's what was corrected me. Who's really 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.640 got to know maybe be more intimately because obviously he's 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.760 just worried about you know, depend on what room you're in, 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.440 maybe three to two US guys versus the head coach 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:41.280 is more worried about the collective and obviously and then 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:44.600 the head coaches tend to gravitate towards the leaders and 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:47.840 captains of the team. So as I got older, right, 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.440 especially when I ended in Buffalo in my Age Man show, 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.680 were a lot closer. It's more like an older brother 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.680 age gap versus a father's son age gap. So when 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.040 I got to Buffalo, Shan had a much more a 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.120 greater anac just based on who I was and where 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.280 I was in that stage of my life, being able 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:08.359 to play until I was thirty six thirty seven. But 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.399 to ask you a question, generally, it's the position coaches, 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.040 and so you want to make sure those guys really 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.560 know how to coach ball, really know how to communicate 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.359 your message, and are going to keep guys accountable to 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.800 the standard that you was kind of set forth as 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.560 a head coach. Hey, when Nick Rowlis showed up right 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.639 twenty nine years of asia Cardinals defensive coordinator. He was 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.920 younger than fifteen players who were on the roster at 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.880 that time. Think about that. Lorenzo Alexander is our guest 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:36.840 on the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.199 Fifteen years in the league, two time Pro Bowlers. So 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:40.840 I'm putting it to you. I'm just going for the 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.800 jugg lear Right now, Cardinals are sitting there at number three, 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.440 and they're Wayne will Anderson or a big haul from 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.000 a team wanting to trade up and take Oh, I 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.440 don't know, Anthony Richardson, just throw that name out there. 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.280 I asked Drew stan the same question earlier this week, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.200 former Cardinals quarterback. He said, I'm taking will Anderson every time. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.359 I don't care about two more first round picks. What 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.399 do you say? Yep, it comes down to him. And 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.040 you know I'm not a college guy. I'm gonna watch 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.119 a ton. I hear the names right in Melanderson is 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.960 a big buzz name for everybody around the country. And 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.120 so if you believe that he's in the same elk 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.639 as Don Miller and Aaron Donald and he's a generational 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:17.679 type players, you take it. I mean, it's just it's 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.720 it's there's no way you can make up for those 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.480 type of players with multiple picks. But I also see 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.359 Buffalo Bills trade back right and pick up Josh Allen 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.800 and trade Tremaine Evans to high quality six right. They 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.800 were so they weren't seen as generational players, but those 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:40.560 guys helped establish the Buffalo Bills culture right and have 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.480 made them a perennial playoff team and have contended for 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.359 the last four or five years. So if you're able 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.200 to do something like that, if you don't see Bill 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:51.800 Anderson at the generational type guy, maybe there's another d 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.480 lineman or maybe a corner that is just act impactful 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:56.800 but maybe doesn't have the same buzz and you feel 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.280 like you can get him at maybe you know ten 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.040 or eleven, you pick up another first round picking in 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.480 the process. Maybe maybe you do that as well. So, 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:07.720 I mean, there's two ways to look at it, But 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.160 it always comes down to how you evaluates a guy 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.640 and if he has headed shoulders better than the rest 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.600 and he's projected to be you know, uh, let's say 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.840 at twelve to sixteen, sack guy here, you got to 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:21.280 take that guy because at the end of the day, 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.760 impacting the QB at a high rate he's with helps defenses, 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.120 especially in his day and age in the NFL. So, 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.800 so as you look at the Arisonta Cardinals getting ready 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:33.919 to go into free agency, the legal tampering of course 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.920 at looms does it not? It is coming up here quickly. 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:42.280 Where do you see the result? What's that? Yeah? Right? 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:46.760 The godbye? You're right, Yeah, that's exactly where it's happening. 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:50.240 You got that, right, But you know how that goes. 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:52.399 But you know, as you look at it right now, 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.520 what do you think the general strategy is going to 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.520 be for the Arisonta Cardinals going into this free agent 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:04.679 period um? You know, looking at where where the coaches 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.760 have been has come from and what they had in 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:12.800 Philly and even Aaron Kelvin speak yesterday on or the 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.560 other day or on the radio. You know you're looking 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.080 from veteran guys and can obviously that can help you 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.919 establish your culture. But you know I'm looking at interior 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:25.200 or the interior or the front the lines, right, can 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:28.400 I be how can I dominate the line of scrimmage 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:29.879 on both sides of the ball and we look at 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.119 the Philadelphia Eagles. The reason why they made it to 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.320 the championship getting last years because they were able to 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.040 do that at a high rate better than anybody else 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.560 pretty much other than eighty five. Theres right, it's on 0:20:39.680 --> 0:20:41.960 the defensive side and that big old line with ball 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:44.720 in folks. So you're trying to identify guys that, I think, 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.240 because that's where it starts. But then you also want 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:52.120 to make sure that you have pos right Kelvin Beechams, 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:53.879 you got to get a couple of those guys in 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:58.720 year to help to help you get your culture to 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:02.080 where you wanted to be collectively from top from top 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:06.720 down that are going to really be able to communicate 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.000 in the locker room what you want. And so you'll 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.280 probably see a couple of Eagles. I know. When I'm Buffalo, 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:15.200 we had it felt like we were the passers of 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.040 the North Right. We had about four or five Panthers, 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.280 and every year they felt like Carolina Panther. But that's 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:24.879