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Speaker 1: know if he was spending to do that, right. I

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Speaker 1: think in Buffalo he Williams in that room and myself,

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Speaker 1: we have some other guys where he can just be

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Speaker 1: himself and do what he can do. So you have

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Speaker 1: to make sure if you're asking a guy to change

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Speaker 1: his role from a leadership standpoint, if he has some

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Speaker 1: you know, some football character issues, um, if he ready

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Speaker 1: to be a nine now right. I think oftentimes we

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Speaker 1: bring in guys and we ask them to be something

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Speaker 1: that necessarily not ready four or having grown into and

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Speaker 1: so that is always I think the biggest thing when

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Speaker 1: you look at the three agents that typically don't work out,

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Speaker 1: are you using the same way or do you have

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Speaker 1: a different vision? And then if you're ready to be

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Speaker 1: the leader that you need to be um, And then

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Speaker 1: there's just sometimes you should never bring in just because

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Speaker 1: of of of you know, past history of batting happening

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Speaker 1: or injuries happening. But you said, well, I'm a great coach,

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Speaker 1: I can fix it. I'm probably not if it's been

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Speaker 1: an issue anywhere that player has been so so um,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you a producer question right now. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the good news is for the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: good news is they can sign all four of the

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Speaker 1: next guys that I'm telling you about. But a producer

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Speaker 1: is gonna say, if you could have one that you

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Speaker 1: would want some who would it be Zach Allen, Kelvin Beecham,

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Speaker 1: Byron Murphy, or Will Hernandez just one Zoe. I might

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Speaker 1: have to go with man Man you always and and

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Speaker 1: And I'm stuck between Zach Allen and Kelvin. That was

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Speaker 1: my guy. I know what type of impact he has

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Speaker 1: on that team, and I don't quite know what type

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Speaker 1: of leaders that's Allen is so but he's younger. You

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Speaker 1: gotta go with Zach Allene. I'm not. I'm seeing because

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Speaker 1: I'm fired too because I wanted that guy just because

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Speaker 1: the guy's younger. But you're thinking about production on the field. Ye,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about how does how does the um A

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Speaker 1: team work? Inly, you move a Kelvin Beecham from off

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Speaker 1: that team and you open up several different holes that

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Speaker 1: you want the call before. But all you worried about

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Speaker 1: us he's gonna be backing the quarterback on on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But that may not even matter because there's a lack

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Speaker 1: of leadership in the locker room and your four innth

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Speaker 1: wel right, and so it's not if easier clear cut?

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Speaker 1: Is that so? We? I think? You know, sometimes when

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Speaker 1: you build a team, can't always go with who's younger,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna the most production, especially when you're doing what

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Speaker 1: a guy like calling beach and in the league for

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Speaker 1: I don't know for three years now. Um as A

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Speaker 1: is a is a strongholder as a left tackle, right

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Speaker 1: tackle play played. Its gonna lead other guys. Who's gonna

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Speaker 1: help these other guys on board to play above himself?

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Speaker 1: That stuff matters. And then you'd be like, damn, we

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Speaker 1: got tackle, Yeah, what's going on? Why of our team

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Speaker 1: the way it is? Oh, you are the best man.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna let you go because you gotta call your

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Speaker 1: former team at Aaron Rodgers telling to make a decision

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Speaker 1: because the whole league year is hinging on Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: He's the domino where everything's gonna fall. So Zo, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much for the time. We'll talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Down the road is the Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 1: santan Ford and Gilbert we Are. Santan Ford, I want

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Speaker 1: a good job at a point of attack right there

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Speaker 1: and say like DJ Humphries, got a nice block, huge hole.

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Speaker 1: Great job by d J Humphreys at the part who

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Speaker 1: has that looking there? I have no back down? You know,

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Speaker 1: that's the dust the part I think I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to most when that fighter flat comes. Who's gonna swing,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna run? You know what I mean? I want

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Speaker 1: a bunch of swingers. So I missed it. That's sound

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Speaker 1: the weird. I'm sorry that was stretch. That was so strange.

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Speaker 1: I want I want a bunch of fighters. I should

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Speaker 1: have said I want a bunch of fighters. So this,

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Speaker 1: like I said, though, that's the part I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to most, not the swinging part that was That was

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Speaker 1: a little strange. I'm sorry. I guess we leaped that out.

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Speaker 1: He wants fighters, not swingers. He wants to specify that

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Speaker 1: former player host of the Big Red Rage DJ Humphries.

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Speaker 1: It really doesn't need the media or the either one

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Speaker 1: of us, really. I mean, he just sort of his

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Speaker 1: personality sort of carries things on its own. As you

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Speaker 1: saw right there. I love the percussion and the deep

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Speaker 1: bass because that kind of kind of sums up DJ Humphries.

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Speaker 1: Game over there, left tackle, does it not? Ron Wolfley?

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Speaker 1: I mean yes, especially this beautiful part of the program.

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Speaker 1: To Polly, we're some base man, yep, talking old line.

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Speaker 1: You're talking Djambrey Special. Thanks Lorenzo Alexander. And what sort

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Speaker 1: of teammate would you like? Because I tell you what,

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Speaker 1: it's fill in the blanks from left or right. You

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Speaker 1: got your left tackle and a lot of undecided, undetermined

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Speaker 1: positions and names right now. What do you think maniasa

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Speaker 1: boor Jonathan Gannon? What sort of offensive line are the

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Speaker 1: Eine boy? That is? Paul? It is so interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I know that they

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Speaker 1: obviously have an idea as to what the offense is

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Speaker 1: going to look like, and that means they have an

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Speaker 1: idea as to what the schemes are going to look

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Speaker 1: like as well. I think of the Cleveland Browns. I

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Speaker 1: think of Drew Petson coming from the Cleveland Browns, Paul,

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Speaker 1: and I think of their offense and their offensive line specifically.

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Speaker 1: I think this is just my opinion. I think the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns offense of line is the best offensive line

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Speaker 1: in the AFC. I think overall, I'd say the Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Eagles offensive line is the best in the NFL. But

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Speaker 1: to me, in the AFC, I would say that the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns had the best offensive line. And that is

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Speaker 1: fascinating to me because Paully that offense plended the old

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Speaker 1: and the new, and they did it as well as

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Speaker 1: anybody in the National Football League. Is that what they're

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Speaker 1: going to try to reproduce here, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: tell you the importance of the old line has never

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Speaker 1: been greater or maybe more evident than this last season.

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Speaker 1: Think about it. Philadelphia is in the Super Bowl, Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: What do they do from the loss in the AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship Game to their Super Bowl victory. They fixed the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. Obviously, quarterback and they get to the quarterback

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Speaker 1: I know with Kansas City, but they fixed the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: That was a liability. You look at a team like

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Speaker 1: the Cold strapping right behind the Cardinals. What's the difference

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Speaker 1: between the Colts team this past season and like two

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Speaker 1: years ago, the offensive line went from one of the

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Speaker 1: best to one of the worst. And so DJ Humphreys

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Speaker 1: obviously is the answer right now the franchise left tackle.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Jonathan Ginn and new on the job, already

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Speaker 1: knows enough to say as much about DJ Humphreys. I

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Speaker 1: have a very high opinion of DJ. I know Clayton

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Speaker 1: and Chris are ready to work with him. He's been

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Speaker 1: a really good player for a long time. Had to

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Speaker 1: go against them a couple of different times, and he's

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Speaker 1: a tough matchup for outside edge players in the pass

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Speaker 1: and run game. And he's got phenomenal football character. And

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Speaker 1: you know, he's a guy I've already leaned on since

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Speaker 1: I've been in the job to gain some information and

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Speaker 1: pick his brain a little bit, and he's been great

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Speaker 1: with me. So excited that he's on the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: We've seen some of the all access video of the

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Speaker 1: new head coach, Jonathan Gann and talking with DJ Humprees

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Speaker 1: on Cardinals flight plan. You can check it out in

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Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. Here's the other thing to me, This

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Speaker 1: someone or something in free agency and go big, I

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Speaker 1: would look at center wolf. Did we not get a

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Speaker 1: renewed value and what an elite center does for a

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Speaker 1: team in that one year, the first year of Rodney Hudson,

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Speaker 1: he really just elevated the entire offense. Did he not? No,

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Speaker 1: he did, Bolli, there's no done. Yeah, you're right about that,

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Speaker 1: and it's one of the reasons why. And we've talked

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Speaker 1: about this name, but Ethic the center for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: He's a free agent, Ethan Posic. It's interesting because Nick

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Speaker 1: Harris was their starting center, but he got hurt in

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Speaker 1: the first preseason game I believe. Don't hold me to that,

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Speaker 1: but I think it was the first preseason game, got hurt,

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Speaker 1: and then Ethan took over a guy that had been

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Speaker 1: six year this past season, of course, but he had

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Speaker 1: been in the league five years with a Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: He actually took over as center and did an outstanding

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Speaker 1: job at center. Right now, I know the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 1: won him back, but that's a guy right there. If

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Speaker 1: you were gonna say, we're gonna go out and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a pros pro. Maybe not a big name,

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Speaker 1: maybe not a guy that is going to break the bank,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna get a pro. We're gonna get a

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Speaker 1: guy that won't get our quarterback killed, that's gonna go

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Speaker 1: out there and do the job and know what to

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Speaker 1: do and be prepared. Ethan Posic would be that center

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Speaker 1: to meet Paul, and he's in his prime. He's a

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Speaker 1: former second round pick twenty seventeen, and he has a

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Speaker 1: connection to the new offensive coordinator Drew pet Scene right, yes, exactly,

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Speaker 1: And you know what also to Paul, I want to

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Speaker 1: say this because we were talking about it momentarily and

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Speaker 1: the last beautiful part of the program actually was the

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Speaker 1: first beautiful part of the program. But Clayton Adams. Clayton

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Speaker 1: Adams is the offensive line coach for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: In what's so interesting about this, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: would you say there's open spots on the offensive line, Paulli,

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Speaker 1: it's almost it's almost fun. It's like five card pickup,

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Speaker 1: maybe making four card pickup. I mean, Paulli are going

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Speaker 1: to rebuild this offensive line and Clayton Adams can actually

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Speaker 1: try to have some say on the types of individuals

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Speaker 1: he wants to coach and the types of players he

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Speaker 1: wants to bring in. Because he wants to run this

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Speaker 1: kind of scheme, whatever scheme that may be, he's going

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Speaker 1: to be able to kind of mold that offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's really a rarity for a position coach. Well,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan gain and the head coach has been asked, what

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Speaker 1: type of offensive linement are you looking for? We have

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Speaker 1: a skill set that we're looking for from all you know,

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Speaker 1: the inside guys and the outside guys. And I know this.

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Speaker 1: We want high football character, guys that love to play football,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna be tough guys, and we want guys

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Speaker 1: that finish people, move people. And probably the number one job,

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Speaker 1: as I learned, better keep that quarterback up right, no doubt,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Well, I know what the Eagles they had

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Speaker 1: to say, and it went something like this, you passed

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Speaker 1: to score points, you run it to win. And so yes,

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Speaker 1: if that's the mentality, they're gonna need the physicality up front. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Paul, just think about what you just said right there.

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Speaker 1: You just described the Kansas City Chiefs winning the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You just described it right there what it was there doing.

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Speaker 1: But don't get me sidetracked. Okay, Paul, don't do that,

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Speaker 1: because once again, going back to Drew Petzing, who's coming

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Speaker 1: here is as the offensive coordinator coming from Cleveland, that

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Speaker 1: Cleveland offensive line, Paul, they ran a very physical scheme

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Speaker 1: with Nick Chubb. Now, Paul, I'm just saying Nick Chubb

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Speaker 1: is is maybe the best running back in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. You could build You could build, yes, poly elite.

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Speaker 1: You could build an argument that says he is one

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Speaker 1: of the best, if not the best running back in

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Speaker 1: the league. You know what, James Connor is also a

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Speaker 1: big dude who can run downhill. And I'm wondering if

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Speaker 1: they're not going to go out and try to get

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Speaker 1: guys like Whyatt Teller and Joel Bitonio. I'm wondering if

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Speaker 1: they're not going to go out and try to get

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Speaker 1: some guys who are very good in terms of the

645
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Speaker 1: tackle zone and coming off the ball and taking their

646
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Speaker 1: guts and sticking it all over some guy and moving

647
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Speaker 1: the gut with their butt. Paul, That to me is

648
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Speaker 1: what I'm waiting to see. I can't wait to see

649
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Speaker 1: the fingerprint of Manti Asenfort is going to be all

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Speaker 1: over this team based on how he builds that offensive

651
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Speaker 1: line in the defensive line, and then that will dictate

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Speaker 1: the scheme. At least that was the answer from Jonathan

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Speaker 1: gin And when he was asked about what sort of

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Speaker 1: offense and Cardinals might run. Yeah, as we're going through

655
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Speaker 1: scheme meetings, you know, you start putting up a blueprint

656
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Speaker 1: of how you want to play, and the people that

657
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Speaker 1: we know are going to be here you start taking

658
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Speaker 1: to that in account. But that takes some time. That's

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Speaker 1: a process out on the grass in the meeting room.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have some ways that we want to

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Speaker 1: play offensive, defense and teams, but that will apt when

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Speaker 1: at the dust settles and we see who's lining up

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Speaker 1: in a Cardinals jersey. So we will taylor fit our

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Speaker 1: schemes and how we play on all three phases to

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Speaker 1: the people that we have. And there's no doubt it'll

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Speaker 1: be a learning process. There's gonna be a lot of

667
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Speaker 1: new players, it's a new staff. But at the same time, well,

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Speaker 1: there has to be things that you do well, that's

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Speaker 1: your identity, right, I mean, there's going to be a

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Speaker 1: base defense there's got to be a go to on offense, right,

671
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Speaker 1: those base set of place where you're like, look, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you know what's coming or not, we're

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Speaker 1: going to run these and execute them. Yes, Polly, I

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Speaker 1: think just listening to JG right there, he's so right

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Speaker 1: on the money, he's right. Especially in that first year

676
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Speaker 1: when you come in, Paul, You've got to find out

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Speaker 1: what you have, What do we have under contract? This

678
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Speaker 1: guy is a good football player. Okay, maybe he's not

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Speaker 1: the perfect right guard for the kind of scheme we'd

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Speaker 1: like to run, but this guy's a good football player,

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Speaker 1: So we'll go ahead and will run schemes that he

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Speaker 1: does well. Right, And then as you start to get

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Speaker 1: into the next year, you start looking for guys that

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Speaker 1: will run the schemes you feel most comfortable with. So

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Speaker 1: I think early on you're trying to say, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: going to run the scheme that our players can execute.

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Speaker 1: But as you develop a team, I think you're starting

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Speaker 1: to look for guys that can run the schemes you like.

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Speaker 1: And if you remember the first year for Nick Sirianni

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon when they showed up in Philadelphia, that team

691
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Speaker 1: started in twenty twenty one, it was a four win team.

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Speaker 1: They started out two and five, two and six, and

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Speaker 1: then they made a big run over the last two

694
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Speaker 1: months of the season ended up into the playoffs. So

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Speaker 1: there's that transition and transformation period. Hey joined the season

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Speaker 1: ticket priority lists, select your seats before the general public.

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Speaker 1: How about the opponents this year coming to town? That Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Falcons, the Bengals, the Giants. Go to

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Speaker 1: asy Cardinals dot com slash priority lists for more info,

700
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Speaker 1: more Big Red rage. Right after this Jackson play action

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Speaker 1: throws complete Hollywood Brow the hazard at the thirty lg

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Speaker 1: rates in the end zone. They won't catch him. Touchdown

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Speaker 1: Ravens down the middle of the field, looking for Hollywood Brown.

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Speaker 1: He's caught up Tompins thirty leg race twenty and he's

705
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Speaker 1: gonna score Pollywood Brown deep down the middle. He's got

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Speaker 1: to see to the end zone. Touchdown Willie Sneed on

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Speaker 1: the receiving end. If Jackson backs up SLINKs at the

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Speaker 1: back of the end zone, he's got Myles Boykin. Touchdown Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Jackson on the plate. Fate drows to Grecardo the coal

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Speaker 1: line and a fullback is in from a touchdown. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He throws his fifth touchdown of the after doo about

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Speaker 1: Ravens Radio Jerry Sandusky right there, one of a trio

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Speaker 1: of five touchdown games in his two thousand nineteen MVP campaign.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson one of six players who got the franchise

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Speaker 1: tag this year, Ron Wolfley, Deron Payne, Tony Pollard, Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 1: sae Quon Barkley, Evan Ingram, and Lamar Jackson, who gets

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Speaker 1: the non exclusive franchise tag, meaning effective next Wednesday, some

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Speaker 1: t can come in potentially get a deal done with

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Speaker 1: him two first round picks, and if the Ravens don't match,

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Speaker 1: then boom, a former MVP quarterback in his prime might

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Speaker 1: change teams by this time next week. Your thoughts on that, yeah, Polly, Now,

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Speaker 1: let me just go back to the people that actually

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Speaker 1: got tagged. Six guys, three of them running backs, Paul, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Would you ever have expected that three running backs got

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag? They just don't know how to value them.

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Speaker 1: It's so hard do you want to pay a running

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Speaker 1: back long term? The shelf life is so short. Seemingly,

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Speaker 1: it's so easy to get another one in the draft,

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Speaker 1: But then you value the one you have. I think

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Speaker 1: there's just confusion on what to do about a running

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Speaker 1: back long term, so they end up with a short

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Speaker 1: term deal. Yeah. Not only that, Polly, I also think

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Speaker 1: too because the cost of a franchise running back isn't

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Speaker 1: prohibitive in any way, shape or form. And because of

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Speaker 1: that it I think it's like this guy is really

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Speaker 1: really Let's keep him. Let's put the tag on him

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Speaker 1: because it's not gonna kill us. Now with Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: very very interesting that he doesn't get the exclusive tag.

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Speaker 1: He got the non exclusive tag, of course, but it's

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Speaker 1: a tag nonetheless, and it's something that we may not

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Speaker 1: see the end of yet. With Lamar Jackson, that's only

742
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Speaker 1: one season. Who knows what else he could have. And

743
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Speaker 1: then you have the quarterback taken after Kyler Murray in

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Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen draft, Daniel Jones win number six overall

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Speaker 1: and at a stellar campaign last season, he gets four years,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty million, at least according to the agent.

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Speaker 1: In terms of the real guaranteed cash, it might be

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Speaker 1: more like according to a lease the sports business people,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be far less than that. But he

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Speaker 1: got paid. Daniel Jones, Gino Smith stays in Seattle, Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll saying, oh, that doesn't preclude us from taking a

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Speaker 1: quarterback at number five. But Gino Smith got paid as

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Speaker 1: well Ron Wolfley, So the Cardinals will see Gino Smith

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Speaker 1: twice a year for the next couple of years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting to me Geno Smith being back. That

756
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Speaker 1: is amazing. If you look at the last five games

757
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Speaker 1: that he played, he was really up and down in

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Speaker 1: those five games, yet at the same time he had

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Speaker 1: a great year. I don't want to diminish him in

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Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, but I thought they did

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Speaker 1: give him an awful lot, especially in guarantees where you're

762
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Speaker 1: talking about forty fifty million somewhere in there. Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: I was really really surprised they put the franchise tag

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Speaker 1: on him. They couldn't get something done with him. But

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Speaker 1: the big one of all the quarterbacks right now, I

766
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Speaker 1: can't believe Aaron Rodgers might actually take the Brett Farve

767
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Speaker 1: path and go to New York, just as Brett Farve did.

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Speaker 1: What are the odds of that, Paul? That blows me away. Well,

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Speaker 1: speaking of odds, I think I saw a stat where

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden the favorite in states that you

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Speaker 1: can legally wager the Jets all of a sudden the

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Speaker 1: new Super Bowl favorite by fans, at least by betting

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Speaker 1: handle by where people are putting their money. So they

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Speaker 1: fully expect Aaron Rodgers to go to the Jets. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, that is a loaded roster, is it not? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And we talked about this before once about a time

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Speaker 1: when Brett Farve went to the Jets, allow this same

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Speaker 1: scenario and the Cardinals played and lost badly to Brett

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Speaker 1: Farb and the Jets. That year, that team was really good.

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Speaker 1: They started like nine to three and then Brett Farb

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Speaker 1: got heard and the bottom fell out. But man, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers goes to the Jets. Look out, Yeah, no, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you on that. It's just amazing. That is a

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Speaker 1: roster that I think is ready to win right now

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Speaker 1: if they were to get the likes up an Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: But can I also go back to Derek Carr, Paul

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr as well going to New Orleans. This to

788
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Speaker 1: me is very interesting because I see Dennis Allen as

789
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Speaker 1: the head coach of the New Orleans Saints, and to me,

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Speaker 1: I see a guy that wants to get back to

791
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Speaker 1: a little bit more of what Sean Payton was doing

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Speaker 1: with the Saints. I'm talking about Sean Payton before he

793
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Speaker 1: walked away from the Saints, going back to something a

794
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: little bit more traditional. I think that's the offense Dennis

795
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Speaker 1: Allen wants to get back to, and I think Derek

796
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Speaker 1: Carr is the guy that can do that. And I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to give the keys to the offense

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Speaker 1: to Derek Carr. What we hear in Vegas, especially that

799
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Speaker 1: Week two game where the Raiders led twenty to nothing,

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Speaker 1: that Josh McDaniels didn't give Derek Carr a lot of

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Speaker 1: room to operate and make decisions at the line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage and change plays. At least David Carr's brother an

803
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: NFL network has said as much. So we'll see what

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Speaker 1: is Derek Carr at thirty one years of age and

805
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Speaker 1: four Pro Bowls under his belt, what can he do

806
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Speaker 1: for that Saints offense. And what's also interesting is you're

807
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Speaker 1: now hearing trade rumors out of LA and the Rams

808
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Speaker 1: that the Rams are thinking about actually trading Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: to which the gm less sneed stepped in today and said, no,

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Speaker 1: we're not trading Matthew Stafford. These reports were trading Cooper

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Speaker 1: cup and or Aaron Donald. Not gonna happen. Okay, of

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Speaker 1: course he's not saying anything about the other reports where

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Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd, Jalen Rams or Alan Robinson might get dealt

814
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Speaker 1: from France because because they're in cap hell right now,

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Speaker 1: they are way over the cap. Yeah, they're way over

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Speaker 1: the cap and they have no picks whatsoever. Think about that, Paul, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how does that make you feel? You know, but in

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Speaker 1: a top spot. But you know, speaking the division? Getting

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Speaker 1: back to get back to Geno Smith for a minute.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're right, the last half dozen games it

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Speaker 1: was uneven. But on the season, he had thirty touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: he had eleven picks, He led the league with a

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Speaker 1: seventy percent completion percentage. He was a pro bowler. So now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, between the Niners and that Rams team,

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Speaker 1: with Matthew Stafford coming back and then Geno Smith, he

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Speaker 1: the NFC West is as formidable as it's ever been. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: now you're right, PAULI Geno Smith. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of Geno Smith. I really am. Who doesn't love to

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Speaker 1: see a comeback story, and that's exactly what he did,

830
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Speaker 1: coming back, of course, and playing the way that he

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Speaker 1: did that he had an opportunity earlier in his career.

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Speaker 1: He's been a lifelong backup for the most part, and

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Speaker 1: then he got the opportunity to do it again, to

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Speaker 1: start again, and he made the most of it. And

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Speaker 1: I love it, Paul, because you know it's West virgian Yah.

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Speaker 1: It's West virgan yaw there. Just for that, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give you the rumor Michael Silver through out there and

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Speaker 1: a few others have as well, that brock Purty you

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Speaker 1: hasn't had surgery yet on the elbow if he's not

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Speaker 1: back in time. And they don't like Trey Lance and

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Speaker 1: the way it's tracking that some expect the Niners to

842
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Speaker 1: place a call to Tom Brady. How about that for

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Speaker 1: the NFC West by the way, don't do it, Tommy,

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Speaker 1: don't do it. Check out Flight Plan episode two. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be next Wednesday at seven pm. That's right. It's

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Speaker 1: all combine driven, it is all access. There's a ride

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Speaker 1: along with the new GM moniasinport from Nashville. Sue Indie.

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Speaker 1: Think about that episode one, A Cardinal's Flight Plan on

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals YouTube channel As we Speak Special thanks to

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander, the former Cardinal, Jim Almandra Cody Fincher for

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