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Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of the best podcast available Ota

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Speaker 2: pre mandatory Mini Camp edition. My name is Andrews Ciciliano.

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Speaker 2: Back from vacation and back in it on the other

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Speaker 2: comes out. Is Jason Gibbs, tanned, rested, ready from gallivanting

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Speaker 2: He's oriented like you're looking at and you're like this

434
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: is ai. You're like, no, it's not Ai, because and

435
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 2: one of them is like, and if you go to

436
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 2: this beer hall, ask for my buddy Christian, we go

437
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 2: hunting and you need to get this, and like, this

438
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 2: is not Ai, this is not tripped by this is

439
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: not him scraping Yelp reviews. This is a detailed Joe

440
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: Thomas eating and drinking plan the expectations.

441
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 3: Yes, he's the best, and you made it to the plane.

442
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 4: I'm not so sure that one is making it to

443
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 4: the plane with the number of libations.

444
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: You may or may not, although that is another story.

445
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: I won't bor you. Actually, I will bore you on

446
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: the way.

447
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 2: So when you land in Munich, you take the train

448
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 2: downtown and on the platform they have the train, the.

449
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: Ticket, the ticket machines.

450
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 2: Right, So you take the escalator down here on the

451
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: platform and then here there are all the ticket machines.

452
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: All right, buy your ticket. Okay.

453
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: So I bought my ticket seventeen euros, right, like twenty bucks.

454
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: You get on the train, you go downtown. No one

455
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 2: check my ticket, and when you get off the train

456
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: there's no machine to swipe through, no gateway to go through.

457
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: My Okay, but I bought my ticket right. You didn't

458
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: know that.

459
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: So on the way out in the morning, to leave

460
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 2: after a night out of Joe Thomas recommendations, I get

461
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: down to the platform. Now in the city, there are

462
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: no ticket machines. Like, what is going on here? There's

463
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 2: no machine. I'm wandering the platform, no machine, no machine.

464
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: Here's the train. Doors are open, bell is sounding, train's

465
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 2: about to go. I got to get to the airport.

466
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, what am I doing here?

467
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 3: Well?

468
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: No one's like, maybe back to the city or back

469
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: to the airport. You don't need the ticket, right, Maybe

470
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: that's why. Anyway, so I jump on the train. We

471
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 2: are twenty seconds from the airport. No one had asked

472
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: for a ticket. No conductor all of a sudden out

473
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: of nowhere, as if conjured.

474
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 3: Up by other That's how they That's how I ran

475
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: into him. In Italy. Here's the conductor ticket. I'm like,

476
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: oh boy.

477
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I left it in my hotel room,

478
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: which is a true story. I had the other ticket

479
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: that no one ever took on my night stand.

480
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 4: I forgot that.

481
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: Whatever, it's an old ticket, and I'm like, can I

482
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: just pay you now? Oh?

483
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: Yes, you may like great, take my phone out. He

484
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: takes a little thing out. I tapi prints en, hands

485
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: it to me and walks away. I'm like, okay, cool,

486
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 2: I look at it. What do you think that ticket

487
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: costs on the train? Instead of seventeen, you're ninety euros.

488
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 2: It's a sixty euro train ticket. They're finding you.

489
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, here's your fifty dollars. Fine, you enjoyed that?

490
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: Like I could have taken a cab.

491
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, I digress. What's that lesson learned? You got

492
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 4: through it, you got to the airport. It's all right,

493
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 4: all right, just a few extra dollars.

494
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: Moving on.

495
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: It is hard to believe that this is year five

496
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: for our guest on on BPA the best podcast available,

497
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: Grant Delpit.

498
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: Where do the years go? Man? Year five? Dude?

499
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: Is it year five?

500
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 3: Hold on six? Wait a minute, I'm looking this sixth

501
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 3: those you're five? Okay?

502
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: Well count the injury year? Yeah, you're five on the field,

503
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: how about that? Okay, so year six? Then I got

504
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: it wrong. It's your five slash six? Where where did

505
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 2: the time go?

506
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 4: Uh?

507
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: Time waste for no man? You know, as we see

508
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, it flies by. So just trying to make

509
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: an impact while I can man and lead this team.

510
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: Before we talk about the football, talk about life, talk

511
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 2: about the off season. Going through your I g h

512
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: horror Juku Street Tokyo in March.

513
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: That look cool.

514
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great place, Tokyo, very very nice people,

515
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: very orderly. Got to travel around a little bit while

516
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: I can. So it's important to do that. Those those

517
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: things for me, you know, I like, I like doing

518
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: that while while I can.

519
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: You know, hey man, you gotta live your life. I'm

520
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: doing I'm doing Tokyo. Actually I'm doing Mount Fuji in July.

521
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: So between like mini camp and training camp. Any you

522
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: got any tips, you got any restaurant recommendations, What should

523
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: I do?

524
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: See? I mean, I didn't do anything outside of the city,

525
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: but hey man, them local le Roman stops like it's

526
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: top tier. Now I'm looking forward to the vintage you know,

527
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: sushi and the real sashimi and stuff like that. Man,

528
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: that's type of food I like though, So I don't

529
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: know if it's for.

530
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: You, No, it is for me. That's exactly what I like.

531
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: I was there years and years and years ago and

532
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: I did hard Juku Street like on a Sunday like you,

533
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 2: and it was fantastic. I want to go back and

534
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: do that. I don't like the rotating sushi though. Did

535
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: you go to one of those where like it's moving,

536
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: I didn't.

537
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: I didn't like that.

538
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: Yes, that's given like conveyor you know, vending machine.

539
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like the conveyor belt conveyor belt sushi.

540
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 3: I can live with that. I can live with that.

541
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: Let's get to the football.

542
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: Everyone says ots feel a little bit different, like everything

543
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: like in general feels different this year. A little more intensity,

544
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: a little more focused. Do you feel that as well?

545
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: I think that that was a big emphasis coming in.

546
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, it was a little bit too lax

547
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: last year. Maybe we need to go a little harder

548
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: this year. So if it's any question about it, I

549
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: think it's you know, we need to attack it at

550
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: a at a at a higher rate, higher speed every day.

551
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: You know. Obviously it wasn't good enough last year. So

552
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: something needs to change, and it starts with our effort

553
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: for real. So that's what we're focusing on right now.

554
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: Control that we control.

555
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: Now.

556
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: We can't do too much physical, uh, you know, violence

557
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, So just make sure our tempo

558
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: is as up as it can be, you.

559
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: Know, And that's what I keep reminding people it's June,

560
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: so like, don't jump to big conclusions.

561
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: It's June.

562
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: It does ramp up though next week for mandatory Mini Camp.

563
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: Grant explain to the fans the difference in intensity, and

564
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 2: I realize it's still going to be June next week

565
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: between OTAs and mandatory Mini camp.

566
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, mandatory Mini Camp is basically more what

567
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna see real high you know, competitive levels of

568
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: one on one's, you know, real real work. You know

569
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: right now, it's work, but it's it's fine tuning stuff.

570
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: And Mini camp you actually get to see a lot

571
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: more competitive physical nature of what we do. So that's

572
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: the opportunity. You get to see me get on the

573
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks a lot more.

574
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: Or you're gonna get out the quarterback a lot more.

575
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know I gotta lead the way.

576
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: You gotta lead the way. Let's talk about the leadership thing.

577
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: Your coach at from Bondo was on the radio with

578
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: Nathan and Bo yesterday and he kind of pulled the

579
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: curtain back and talked about the conversations he's had with

580
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: you about leadership here in year five, year six, call

581
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: it whatever you want, and how he sees you on camera,

582
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: he sees you with the media, how comfortable you are

583
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: in this kind of setting, and that he wants that

584
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: leadership to take the next step this year.

585
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 3: What does that look like for you?

586
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: What I think? Sometimes I'm real hard on myself. So

587
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, obviously I didn't have a great year last year.

588
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I did

589
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: to some people, but I didn't get the ball enough.

590
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: It's all about getting that ball in this league and

591
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: making a difference in getting the ball back for offense.

592
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: So I gotta do a better job of that. But

593
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's my sixth year, you know, like I said,

594
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: fifty on the field. So guys look up to me,

595
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, in this in this in this building. You know,

596
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: whether I like it or not. So I'm definitely embraced

597
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: that role, not really always have, but it's not time for,

598
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, to make it definite and no question about it.

599
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: So you're the veteran now in the room. I mean

600
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: it's rocket.

601
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: You got the two veterans coming in free agent and

602
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: CAZy and Jenkins. But not calling you an old man.

603
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: You're the big ten US guy. Let's put it that way.

604
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: In the room.

605
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's let's let's do this, because it's like

606
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: I had somebody call me unk the other day and

607
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not I'm not that, Like it's not

608
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: it's not that yet. Just go through the age. Let's

609
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: just go through the age, like, okay, twenty one to

610
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty to twenty four, it's like little little bro.

611
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: Like it's like, man, twenty twenty three, it's like young

612
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: young buck, you know, twenty four to twenty eight, twenty nine,

613
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: big bro twenty five. We're gonna skip twenty four because

614
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: that's just a random age. Twenty five to twenty nine,

615
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: big bro thirty Okay, like in league terms, you're og

616
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: at that point. Unk. Don't call me O g unk

617
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: right now, I'm big bro.

618
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 3: Still, you're gonna be twenty seven in the September, I know.

619
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know it's getting.

620
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: So then what is Flacco?

621
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: Uh, he's just the one off I don't know what he.

622
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: Is, not Grandpa, Yeah, Flaco is like.

623
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: I won't call him Grandpa, I'll just call him experience.

624
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: Okay.

625
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well let's get to the quarterback thing, because you

626
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: did play two games with Joe back in twenty three

627
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: everyone got so excited obviously. I mean you should see

628
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: social media. I know you did the day that he signed,

629
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: and then we got to the draft and then like, Grant,

630
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: I know how much my phone is blowing up. I

631
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: just took a trip. I know how much people are

632
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: stopping me asking me about the quarterback situation, like what

633
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: is your phone?

634
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: Like, what's it like for you.

635
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: Going to the grocery store when it's the only thing

636
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 2: anybody wants to talk about.

637
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: Like I said, I said, I don't get paid to

638
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: make those decisions.

639
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying making the decision.

640
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, it's the only thing anybody

641
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: wants to talk.

642
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: About, exactly. Like and at the end of the day,

643
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: he asked me, you know, I'm like, yo, I give

644
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: everybody the same answer. I don't make these decisions, you know,

645
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: like you could I just let them live in fantasyland

646
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 1: because they think they know it, you know, I just

647
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, try to just go on, Yeah, whatever you

648
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: think is right, you know. So we're gonna see what

649
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: it is. But like, at the end of the day,

650
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a competition. I guess, you know, I

651
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: don't make those decisions.

652
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: What was your reaction on draft day? Tell the truth,

653
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: Tell the truth.

654
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: I really didn't, you know, Like I knew that at

655
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: the end of the day we was gonna get a

656
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: great player, So I didn't even really wasn't that I

657
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: didn't watch it. I was waiting on my phone to

658
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: just to see the news. Guy know, I was gonna

659
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: be like overly into it, So I'm just like, let

660
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: me just see who we get. Yeah, we got a good,

661
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: great piece of that deteching room.

662
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: Yep. And then day two got some weapon.

663
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: Days too, well, yeah, we definitely got some weapons. How

664
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: I leave out day two? I went Day two, So

665
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: that's my bet. I'm thinking about day one. So but

666
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: that's the point is that's the way to tie it in.

667
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Day two is the foundation of your football team. Generally speaking,

668
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: people put so much seriously, people put so much focus

669
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: on day one. Right, that's the big show, right, that's

670
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: the shiny object, that's the big deal about Day one.

671
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: Come on, But you know what.

672
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Day two and good football teams are built

673
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: on day two. That's the way I look at it, exactly.

674
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 2: You can't have a good football team. You look at

675
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: the teams that go deep in the postseason. They're built

676
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: on day two. Just my opinion.

677
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the offense in general.

678
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: I thought Joe Buttonio said out loud with a lot

679
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: of people knew and internally and a lot of the

680
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: fans wanted as well. When this week he said that

681
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: the offense, the install at least feels a lot like

682
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one right wide zone and

683
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: power and just getting back to run of the football,

684
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: getting back to what the core the identity is. But

685
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: he also made the point grant that the offense has

686
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: to help you guys out right. So being on the

687
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: field for seventy snaps, you talked about turnovers. You're not

688
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 2: getting turnovers around the field for seventy sixty seventy snaps, right,

689
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: That's when you guys get worn down. That's when you

690
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: give up the explosives. And he talked about how to

691
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: get back to winning football. They have to run the ball,

692
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: but they have to give you guys on that side

693
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: of the ball a little bit of help.

694
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's one hundred percent agreeable.

695
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 4: You know.

696
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: I was to say, let's talk about offense, and I

697
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: was gonna say I play defense. So I can't talk

698
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: about that, but going off that, I think that, you know,

699
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: I know, you can't have a great defense without a

700
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: without an offense. You know, you can't have great offense

701
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: without a defense. So you know, as we've seen last year,

702
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: it was just too you know, too much, too swede,

703
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, too too up and down on both sides.

704
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: So we got to have a consistency in order to

705
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: be you know, good on both sides.

706
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: You mentioned the turnovers, schwarts. You mentioned the turnovers again yesterday.

707
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: How do you force more turnovers and still play fundamental football?

708
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's a mindset of mentality,

709
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: you know. Uh, you know, even if it comes to

710
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: punching the ball, like you have to have a predetermined

711
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: mindset of I'm not just gonna make this tackle, I'm

712
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: gonna you know, punch the ball up, you know, and

713
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: capitalizing on plays. I even dropped a pick last year.

714
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: I think it was my first of my career. Second,

715
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how many drop picks

716
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: I have, but I haven't had a lot. So, you know,

717
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: just capitalizing on those plays, man, is the biggest thing,

718
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: because you don't never know when they're gonna come back.

719
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: Hey, but the good player. Remember the places you don't make,

720
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: not the plays you do make. Right, Yeah, yeah, I

721
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: guess so seriously. I mean it's it's six to that. Hey.

722
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: I know we do totally different things.

723
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 2: But when I drive home on Sunday, I think about

724
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: the calls that could have gone better as opposed to

725
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: the calls that went great. Because you're not going to

726
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: get better if you only look at your highlights. Yeah, right, exactly,

727
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 2: that's why you exactly.

728
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: But then again, you got to move on. That was

729
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: one day, Today's Tuesday, you know.

730
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: Totally absolutely, and you move on and then you get

731
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: another shot coming up on on Sunday, and you get

732
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 2: another shot at some time off as well. Let's uh,

733
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: last thing, Grant looking past next week. I know you

734
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: got to live live in the moment, but you have

735
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 2: anything good plan for that month off?

736
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: No? I mean, I'm actually at a home base in

737
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: Dallas now. I just bought my first, you know, real house, Congress,

738
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to getting that together, sailing down. So,

739
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: but the furnishing part is crazy. I ain't lie. I'm

740
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: not looking forward to that. But dude, you said I

741
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: might be twenty seven, I gotta start.

742
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: Grown up stuff. But full disclosure, full disclosure.

743
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: If you saw what the rest of this room look

744
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 2: like right now, I have been in this house for

745
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: eight years. I don't know that I still have all

746
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: that furniture stuff done. Yeah, well we could do that, Okay,

747
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: find someone who's going to do that for you, because

748
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: I still haven't found that.

749
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, grant, great, great stuff.

750
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming on, enjoy the last week of

751
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: mandatory work. I'll see you in Borea next week and

752
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing you all back.

753
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: On the field. All right, let's do it.

754
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: Appreciate it, all right, So let's look ahead to next week.

755
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: School is almost out for summer. There are three more

756
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: days mandatory mandatory MIDI caamp coming up on the tenth,

757
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: of the eleventh and the twelfth, give me as you noted, Monday,

758
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: team meeting on the ninth, and then you're on the

759
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: field those three days. I want to warran people right now.

760
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: It may only be two days. Most teams don't do

761
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: anything on Thursday. The coach in this case, Kevin Stefanski,

762
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: may very well come to the podium after Wednesday's practice

763
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: and say, hey, we're gonna go to a team golf

764
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: outing or top golf, or do something in the community

765
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: or who knows. On Thursday, most coaches do that and

766
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 2: then it is truly schools out for summer. But I

767
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: will say this, everything I said at the beginning of

768
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: this episode about not reading too much in to the

769
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: quarterback numbers and how they look, I'm gonna start to

770
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 2: throw that out next week because I think next week

771
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: actually does matter, and I think next week is a

772
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: benchmark on which you can plan training camp. Tommy Reese

773
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: was asked during OTA's do you have a plan? I

774
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: see what you're doing now, but do you have a

775
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: plan for the quarterbacks and the reps come training camp?

776
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: And he says, oh, it's a work in progress. I

777
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: think some of those decisions give a may factor on

778
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: how these guys look this.

779
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 4: Week at I think this starts to set what your

780
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 4: depth chart. Depth chart used that looks like the first

781
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 4: day of training camp in terms of who's getting the reps,

782
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: because now you're you know, now you're working on who's

783
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 4: getting the most reps, and now you have a first

784
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 4: team that's getting the majority, a second team that's getting

785
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: X number, a third team that might get a series

786
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 4: and a fourth team that might get a couple plays

787
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: this set. Who's the rotation, what's the rotation at running

788
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: back going to look like? What who's gonna play wide receiver?

789
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: What does Deontay Johnson look like?

790
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: Because that was I don't call it a bally Hood signing,

791
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 2: but it was a curious one. A couple of weeks ago.

792
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 2: He has not been there for atas, so it's got

793
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 2: it's mandatory. Now you gotta be there.

794
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, defensive ends, You've got a loaded defensive end room.

795
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: What's that rotation look like? You know who who's in

796
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 4: on the first team reps? Who's ending on the second

797
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 4: team reps?

798
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: You know?

799
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: And do those change throughout? Like next week we start

800
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 4: to see, Okay, this is what it's probably gonna look

801
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: like when they report to training camp in July or

802
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 4: this is kind of determining what training camp will at

803
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 4: least start off looking like.

804
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: And also next week you're going to have a feel

805
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: for the calendar in training camp as well. We still

806
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: don't have and they're trickling out from other teams the

807
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: official training camp map. I'm gonna guess first work on

808
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: the field is going to be July twenty sixth, that Saturday.

809
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: Don't quote me on it, but somewhere in that vicinity

810
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 2: with players trickling in the week of the twenty first,

811
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: obviously rookies first, and that eventually veterans in that first

812
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: full week of practice would be the week of the

813
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: twenty eighth. Again, don't count me, but that's just how

814
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 2: they or don't quote me, that's just how the calendar

815
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: correct generally works. And then we'll have everything set in

816
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: stone there with the joint practices with the Eagles and

817
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: with the Panthers, and buckle up, baby, football is officially back.

818
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: We'll have your your walking papers if you will, for

819
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: the rest of your summer next week, including jury duty

820
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: currently schedule for the week of the twenty first for

821
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: this guy.

822
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 3: Wow, don't worry. We're working on it.

823
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 4: Bishop had jury duty. We had to work through that.

824
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 4: You have jury What is going on? They know what

825
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 4: I'd like to think, they know who you are.

826
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: Okay, So back backstory, real quick, very quickly. I promise

827
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: I had jury duty the week before rookie.

828
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: Minni caamp Okay.

829
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: And how they work it is you you have to

830
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: go online the night before and they tell you if

831
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 2: we need a jury the next day, right, you know

832
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: it works, right.

833
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: So nothing nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

834
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: Nothing, All of a sudden, they call me it on Friday, right,

835
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 2: And if they call you it on Friday, You're like, Okay,

836
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: all I got to do is get through today and

837
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: then my week is over. But at the same time,

838
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: you're like, well, if I'm calling you in on a Friday,

839
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: they may actually need a jury, right. So I'm in

840
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: there and I'm in there, and I'm in there and

841
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: it's like noon, and I'm like, I got a bad

842
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: feeling the way that the person running the jury room

843
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: was talking like, I got a bad feeling, and I

844
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: had rookie meeting camp the next week. I'm not going

845
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: to miss that and some other important stuff meetings and

846
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: I'm not going to miss that. So I'm like, you

847
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: know what, I can either play today out and cross

848
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: my fingers or and I've been in this position before.

849
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: You actually get called into a jury room and you

850
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: got to go through the whole iDeer process on a

851
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: Friday afternoon, and they jay run enough time. You got

852
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: to come back Monday, and then your whole next week

853
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 2: is up in the air. And I'm like, I can't

854
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 2: risk that I can't risk that. So I went in there.

855
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 2: I went up and I'm like, what should I do.

856
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: Here's my situation. I gotta be out of town on

857
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: next week and I'm not missing that. She's like, i'd

858
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: tap out, I'll reschedule you, and I went okay. So

859
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: I tapped out and she handed me July twenty one,

860
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: and I'm like.

861
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: Oh my Gord, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.

862
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: Thank you doing your civic duty.

863
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: Your civic okay.

864
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: Because this is not only the best podcast available, we're

865
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: the best citizens available as well, doing our civic duty

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Speaker 2: for Jason Gibbs. My name is Andrew Siciliano. Next week,

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Speaker 2: remember your attendance is Mandy